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Field ReportFound a quick way to shut down a shit-tester (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 1constructiveasshole

Summary: Reminded her of the approaching wall and made it sound like she brought it up; got laid.

I was on a date with this 27yo HB7, pretty girl but clearly wall-adjacent. Her profile was all SERIOUS RELATIONSHIPS ONLY PLZZZ which I know is just shit test #1. I'm just trying to fuck her and get out quick since she's already 27.

We're at the bar waiting for our drinks and she's shit testing me left and right, asking why I had professional dating photos and why I never finished grad school. She gave me the perfect opening to shut her down.

Her: "So how long have you been on that website?"

Me: "Long enough to know a worthwhile endeavor when I see it. (wink) How about YOU?" (I don't care about her answer)

Her: "Yeah well I found my last boyfriend there but it's kinda weird sometimes. I mostly just try to avoid all the gross old dudes." (A dig, I'm in my late 30s)

Me: (sees opportunity) "I feel that. My last few dates were with college girls, so this is a little different for me as well."

I played it completely naturally, as if we were just making polite conversation and not like I had just detonated a bomb inside her hamster wheel.

Her: "Oh gotcha.....so you're taking it more seriously now?"

Me: "I'd like to..." (subtext: but you have to fuck me first before I committ, which won't happen anyway)

She shifted uncomfortably and played with her hair, and after the first drink I saw her text a friend, and then make a conscious decision to fuck me. She thinks she snagged me right when I was ready to beta bucks her up. She thinks she's the special snowflake that can nail me down. I took her home and fucked her, and sent her on her way.

Lesson Learned: Find a way to casually mention that your last couple dates were younger than her, and if she's 25 or older she'll freak out.


[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 257 points258 points  (2 children)

The subtext in that exchange was a thing of beauty.

"Are you successful with women, you fucking chump I'm hoping to manipulate?"

"Yes. Now quit with the pointed questions and try to have fun."

"Even though you're older? I think you're full of shit and you suck, chump."

"Yes, with better women than you. Cut this shit out."

"Oh...do I have a shot at being more than just a fuck?"

"Hell n....I mean, maybe."

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Dude /u/archwinger you decoding this powertalk made me shoot milk out of my nose. I love this shit.

[–]thefisherman1961 330 points331 points  (73 children)

The longer I digest the Red Pill, the more I realize that fucking with the hamster is so much easier than it should be. It feels like a cheat code to getting laid

[–]SinisterSwindler 90 points91 points  (67 children)

Someone experienced with fucking with the hamster should do a post on it with examples, that would be most helpful.

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 287 points288 points  (28 children)

Picking on their age is the easiest. Have your wallet out to start a tab or prepare to get carded. Show her your driver's license photo for a laugh and then demand to see hers. She'll probably be much younger in the picture. "Wow you're sexy in this picture." I've had 25 year olds get instantly depressed because that picture is the one they took at 16 when they passed their license test. They'll deny it and say it's embarrassing (and they're SO much better now that they're older) but just laugh and insist that it's a great picture of her. She'll realize instantly she'll never look like that again.

Another is show her your siblings in a photo and ask to see hers. If she has a sister or female relative that's obviously 18 or over, just ask how old the girl in the picture is. Don't say anything else. She will wonder if you're into a younger, lookalike version of her instead. Can do the same thing with Facebook/Instagram and her friends- just ask "who's that?" to the hottest girl you see. Makes her instantly competitive.

If you met online, and she looks exactly like her photos "How old are your photos?" "Idk from this past year I guess?" "Oh that's cool, you looked really young in those photos haha." Works great for mid-20s. Even if her photo is from yesterday, she'll think you're attracted to the false-smoothness of her instagram filter and that she looks old in person.

[–]darkstout 86 points87 points  (2 children)

Great examples. This is "negging" done correctly ("a deliberate backhanded compliment to another person in order to undermine her confidence").

[–]EscapedTheMatrix 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Exactly. So many people think negging is just heavy-handed assholery but that's because it's so often done incorrectly by PUAs and inexperienced teenagers. Negging by its nature has to be subtle, otherwise it's just dickishness.

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    [–]babayega 16 points17 points  (19 children)

    I just had a sudden moment of clarity. Is... is negging pretty much the same thing as shit-testing?

    [–]Endorsed Contributoralways-be-closing 55 points56 points  (1 child)

    is negging pretty much the same thing as shit-testing?

    Different.

    'Negging' is there to bring someone with an inflated opinion down to earth, to make them feel like or at least understand that you can walk and they better step it up and cut the princess act.

    Shit testing - - while we resent it - - is just as necessary and crucial, and it's seeing whether or not the male is a weakling whose confidence is put on or inbuilt.

    While it's basic 'stress testing', the negging is a strategy meant to instill urgency and move from seller to buyer (I'm not trying to get you; you have to try and get me!), the shit-test is a strategy meant to test the quality of the prospective bought product.

    [–]darkstout 15 points16 points  (12 children)

    Dude it's all a Game. In the sexual marketplace certain strategies are more effective than others. Fitness testing or "shit-testing" is something done by both men and women. Make a woman feel like she has to prove herself to you. The frame: she is the beta; you are the alpha.

    [–]icecow 3 points4 points  (11 children)

    What's some examples of shit testing a woman?

    [–]TRPhd 21 points22 points  (10 children)

    "Hey, get me a beer while you're in the kitchen."

    If she wants to please you, she will. If she's a generally nice person, she will. If it doesn't cost her any extra effort, she will. If she doesn't, it is a very bad sign.

    [–]icecow 7 points8 points  (9 children)

    good. Funny you said that. I just used that line and she bucked like a horse for a few seconds then did it. more examples?

    [–]TRPhd 12 points13 points  (8 children)

    Telling her to do anything sexual. Open your zipper, pull out your hard-on, and tell her to suck it (or stroke it, or sit on it, or whatever). If she seems happy to do so, it's a very good sign. If she doesn't seem happy to do so, there may be a lot of reasons, so it's not necessarily a bad sign, but it's not a good one.

    [–]icecow 25 points26 points  (6 children)

    You run some hard shit tests

    [–]billcosbyeatsbabies 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    russian shit testing at its finest

    [–]JillyPolla 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    You know, I generally refrain from things like that because I know how it could be for somebody with self esteem issues. But if a girl shit test you, then you know this is a bout where the gloves are off. Good job.

    [–]Teatach 17 points18 points  (35 children)

    Yes please. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one here who is terrible dealing with shit tests.

    [–]1constructiveasshole[S] 62 points63 points  (28 children)

    Some of my favorite shit-test neutralizers:

    (With a girl who's older than you, especially by 1 year)

    Her: You're a little young for me lol

    Me: Yeah I don't usually go for cougars either...it can be our little secret. ;)

    Her: I don't give out my number online.

    Me: Lol I don't bite. Let's be grownups and talk on the phone. What's your number.

    Her: Do you meet a lot of people through that website?

    Me: Only the pretty ones. ;)

    Her: How do I know you aren't some axe murderer?

    Me: I just asked my dog Rex if I was an axe murderer, and he said "woof", which means no. So you can relax.

    (If you didn't go to college)

    Her: What college did you go to?

    Me: You know, I found so much success in my business straight out of high school that college seemed like a waste of time. (This is good because it makes her feel dumb for wasting her good years/money)

    Her: I bet that dog picks up lots of girls for you.

    Me: Actually Rex is extremely picky with girls, he has very high standards so I'm going to need him to approve you before we actually can meet. [Insert any question you want here and she will answer it.]

    Her: (Had this crazy shit more than once) I'm dead serious, I'm ready to get married and want babies.

    Me: Cool. How many and what are their names... ;)

    Her: You aren't just looking to hook up with me are you?

    Me: WHOA slow down there. I don't even know your [name/last name/phone number/etc] yet ;)

    [–]verify_account 13 points14 points  (10 children)

    So with women at the wall that are in the "I WANT A COMMITTED MAN NOW" phase is it best to pretend to be a beta bucks to get them in bed? Is it possible to plate them after that?

    [–]simple_mech 19 points20 points  (0 children)

    No, beta bux don't get women in bed. She's not going to fulfill her end of the bargain (sex) before you fill out your end (that ever-so-sought-after beautiful wedding).

    She needs to understand that you have high standards and would never spend more than the price of a drink or two, if that, to fuck. Now you have the upper hand and she needs to fill out her end of the bargain before you fill out yours.

    [–]tripwire1 19 points20 points  (0 children)

    Not exactly. What OP did was sort of give her the impression of being best of both worlds. He casually dropped the fact that he's had multiple dates with younger women. That was alpha-proof for her. SHE was the one who insinuated he was taking it more seriously now, since he was on a date with an older girl (her). All he responded was "I'd like to," which inspires hope in her. OP basically inceptioned her into thinking she was in a perfect position to turn an alpha into a beta.

    [–]rpscrote 28 points29 points  (1 child)

    seems like playing with fire to do that, both because she will act differently thinking you're beta and installing beta thought routines in your brain is bad generally and will need to be firewalled from the rest of your thoughts. You are what you do so the more BP shit you do the more BP you are.

    Even girls hitting the wall still want to ride the CC given the opportunity. Approach it RP and you'll have the same if not better chances still

    [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

    You want to be the Chad she calls after blue balling Brad at dinner

    [–]letsgetrandy 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    pretend to be a beta bucks to get them in bed?

    First, pretending to be anything is dishonest to yourself. Don't do that.

    Second, if acting like a beta bux worked, wouldn't they be getting laid?

    I think the important thing to take away from the example is that final sentence, where she's basically laid all her cards on the table and established her settling down, baby making agenda, and then he says "slow down, there", and reminds her that a high quality man also has options and will take his time getting to know you.

    The psychology is pretty solid. She's approaching a wall and time is running out, and here's an attractive guy who expects things to take time. If she declines, what are the odds that another quality guy will be found in time? If she accepts, how can she get you to speed up the process?

    It basically makes her desperate to make you happy.

    [–]Syndweller 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    You do not have to lie or deceive women to sleep with them. This behavior is indicative of someone who is insecure that the woman will not want to sleep with you if you tell her the truth.

    You may still want to lie because...she may not want to sleep with you if you tell her the truth, but the key point is that you do not have to. Being honest with a girl about your intentions is probably the better course, generally speaking.

    [–]1constructiveasshole[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    The trick is to call her out on her assumption that you automatically want to fuck her. That's she's fuckable in the first place, at all. Like, attractive enough to get a hard-on for. She's 27 and pretty, she's been told this so many times it's ingrained in her mind.

    The minute she says "So I'm not looking for a hook-up...." she voices a pretty cocky assumption- you're sitting in front of her, so clearly you're trying to bang her. Call her out.

    Oh, you thought I wanted to bang you??? Really??? Treat her like she's a fat ugly chick saying the same words. The genuine answer would be

    "Whoa, slow down there...."

    [–]babayega 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    What others said. She will string you long with words "You are not like other guys, I'm so lucky that I met you" while putting out for other guys.

    [–]TRPhd -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    Blackdragon says, "90% player, 10% provider". Lots of stuff on that site, it's pretty good.

    http://www.blackdragonblog.com

    [–]babayega 10 points11 points  (1 child)

    You know, I found so much success

    Sound like a loss of frame and you qualifying yourself. Most of the time I just smirk and stay silent or talk about something else, shit tests aren't worth my time to even respond to them.

    [–]michaelconnery1985 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Her: You aren't just looking to hook up with me are you?

    Me: I commend you for your optimism

    [–]simple_mech 4 points5 points  (7 children)

    I have a good one I usually use, works especially well if she's acting like she doesn't give a fuck. If she forgets anything I say "you know they say your memory is the first thing to go" or if she can't read something you can use "...your eyesight..." instead of memory. It's pretty versatile and can hit on any point making her think "damn maybe I am starting to get old". From there on she'll feel the need to qualify herself.

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      [–]simple_mech 6 points7 points  (5 children)

      By the time she can use that line, I would've been gone a week ago.

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        [–]simple_mech 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        We have different agendas. I have a girl on lockdown that I have a future with so my intentions are significantly different than your's. I get numbers, drop a few hints and workout logistics for a date, meet and fuck.

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          [–]Boovs4life 1 point2 points  (4 children)

          So how can i tell a woman when the bill comes "we're splitting the bill" without her saying "it's the man's job to pay" or a a woman isn't supposed to pay anything? And if she says this what should i respond so it comes off smoothly?

          [–]1constructiveasshole[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

          You have to plant this seed early and it's a tough one. There are some bitches that have mentally pre-packaged your dick and a free drink/dinner when they do their makeup for the night, and there's absolutely nothing you can do that will get them both to fuck you AND pay for their half.

          During the conversation, get her to talk about her independence, how strong and awesome she is. It will be a shit-test, she's saying she doesn't need you and is implying she's doing you a favor by being there. Say you love a modern woman like her etc. She'll think you like her personality and intelligence or some shit. Get her all riled up about feminism if she's the type (and not all will be).

          Then when you ask for the checks, make a pleased declaration to the waiter/bartender that your girl is so. awesome. and feminist that she said she wanted to pay for her half. The girl will be confused, and a little upset, but will blame herself and not you. This works best on the younger ones, post-grad/

          A dumber but effective option is just a simple game. Make up some shit you know you can win- whoever has the fewest tattoos buys the first round. Can be almost anything, disguise it as a cute icebreaker. Cheat ahead of time and find out her answer. Has to be something verifiable otherwise she'll just lie. "Guess" her astrological sign- "You look like a Virgo". Guess her major- "Hmmm....English?" Then be a cocky funny bastard and make jokes at the bartender "Hey she lost a bet, the first round is on her. (wink). Nope I'm dead serious! First two on her check (playful shove)." "I can't believe you made me do that." "There's a lot I'm unbelievable at. (wink again)." She'll think it's cute. She'll start visualizing telling that story at your wedding- He made me pay for the first round awww lol!

          [–]Boovs4life 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Excellent response thank you very much i was always troubled by this because i don't wanna come off as a dick by saying "ok so here's your half of the bill"

          [–]1TVTestPattern 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I use this.

          When you are seated ask right away, "So... want to split the bill?" If she says "Sure" you are good to go. If she says "No, guys should pay", Just say "Fine."

          Order water only.

          This tells her two things...

          1. She answered poorly.
          2. There will not be a 2nd date.

          Either she will flip her script and split with you when the bill comes, or she won't and you know not to waste any more time/money.

          [–]JMCastillo86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Me: I just asked my dog Rex if I was an axe murderer, and he said "woof", which means no. So you can relax.

          I can't stop laughing at this one. It's brilliant.

          [–]TRPhd 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          Beige Phillip - "The best game is no game at all."

          Abundance mentality will destroy every shit test out there, and if it doesn't, who cares?

          [–]tripwire1 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          When in doubt the easiest thing to do is agree and amplify. It's simple and it subtly points out the absurdity of the question.

          [–]SinisterSwindler 4 points5 points  (2 children)

          Passing a shit test and fucking with the hamster are two separate things. If you want help passing shit tests, search shit tests in the search function of this sub.

          [–]growingstronk 9 points10 points  (1 child)

          Fucking with the hamster is an offensive tactic. It's switching the role of the shit tester and receiver. She now has to prove to you that she actually is better than the younger, hotter girls instead of you having to prove you're not a creepy old dude in this scenario.

          [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Literally called flipping the script. (make her qualify instead of you)

          Well put though.

          [–]babayega 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          While only time will tell if any of them will be useful, I wanna read more examples for the entertainment value alone!

          [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

          It's so easy half the time I do it by accident. I like to fuck with people and I don't pull punches so sometimes I'll make a joke to my female friends and their demeanor changes faster than you can blink an eye. It's amazing how much power a few well-planned words can have over women.

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            [–]evergonitenitenigga 3 points4 points  (1 child)

            da fuq. i'd never had a girl's FATHER in the same bar. brother maybe. but her father was there? you must live in a really small town.

            [–]1favours_of_the_moon 101 points102 points  (3 children)

            Lesson Learned: Find a way to casually mention that your last couple dates were younger than her, and if she's 25 or older she'll freak out.

            Calling you a gross old dude is what makes her deserve this. Fuck you too, bitch.

            [–]Purecorrupt 23 points24 points  (2 children)

            Did I get the context wrong? She was already out with him and knew he was late 30s. "They are all gross old dudes" except for him, because feelings.

            It's all about how they feel.

            I'm half black and asian and I know pretty fast if a girl is usually not into Asians or Blacks if they tell me, but you're only "half" or "you're mixed" or "you're different". It's out loud hamstering. I could get mad about it, but why? Just be self-aware and use it to your advantage.

            [–]Fulp_Piction 9 points10 points  (0 children)

            True, it's just a spin on the old "You're only creepy if you have low SMV".

            [–]1favours_of_the_moon 15 points16 points  (0 children)

            She already knew it, she just said it to be be a cunt.

            [–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (1 child)

            That is so true on mentioning having been with younger women. It seems to make women need to bed you to prove they're just as hot as the younger women getting you in bed.

            [–]1constructiveasshole[S] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

            Right. Also, you can comment freely on how old a woman looks as long as you play dumb. You're a dumb man, just like her mom and her friends told her. We don't know how old a person is supposed to look, because we're blind idiots. So almost any powertalk or intentional hamster spinning you do will be perceived as casual cluelessness. You're just unaware of the highly sensitive topic that is a woman's expiration date. Makes it even worse for her- "Shit, the younger hotter girls are already on my heels, and he doesn't even know the things an older wiser girl like me has to offer. Maybe if I fuck him he'll like having an experienced girl in bed? Maybe if I try harder? Play less games? Am easier to get along with?"

            [–]redpillstoner 45 points46 points  (9 children)

            Beautiful powertalk. I employed something similar whenever I was with my single mom plate. I told her "oh wow your 22 I thought you were 27, but trust me I am relieved" Should've seen the hamster spinning. I threw her a bone and told her she "acted mature" , thats the thing about the hamster you gotta always leave it guessing the truth

            [–]babayega 2 points3 points  (6 children)

            I used to get that SO MUCH, but as a man I guess it's not really the same since our value tends to increase well into later years.

            [–]redpillstoner 1 point2 points  (5 children)

            I am so much better looking now at 21 then I was at 19. I've begun to develop a much more manly jawline. I think physically a man will peak around 25. Unfortunately my hairline is worse but nothing detrimental to my game I've had a different woman in my bed the past two days

            [–]ChadThundercockII 2 points3 points  (4 children)

            At this moment, you have -7 down votes. What the fuck happened to this sub ??

            [–]redpillstoner 3 points4 points  (2 children)

            Jealousy. They hate me cause they ain't me.

            [–]ChadThundercockII 3 points4 points  (1 child)

            They hate us because they anus.

            [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 41 points42 points  (0 children)

            They get super pissed at me when I put out the previous girls were yonger, mainly because I'm 46 and I like to fuck 20-27 year olds, but I'll fuck an older one if she looks good and she earns it.

            [–]INomYou 11 points12 points  (0 children)

            "wall-adjacent" ... hilarious. The screech of tires just before her front and rear crumple zones get caved by Father Time.

            [–]ECoast_Man 6 points7 points  (3 children)

            I made a post on this awhile ago.

            I use 'the wall' all the fucking time while gaming. This is a great concept because you can either make the approaching womyn feel tingles, or joke about it with the college girls about the already too far gone.

            All women know about the wall, either consciously or subconsciously.

            [–]ihateyouguys 2 points3 points  (2 children)

            Examples? I like your comment, but it's a little obtuse for beginners such as myself.

            [–]ECoast_Man 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Sorry tried to link back but it doesn't look like I can.

            Search 'Wall' and I have a post there 7 months ago entitled 'Joking about the wall - one of my go-to's'. Start there but I can add way more.

            [–]NeoreactionSafe 27 points28 points  (8 children)

            A 30 year old woman has lost 50% of her fertile years already:

            Ages 15 to 45 = 30 years

            Divide 30 by 2 and get 15.

            15 + 15 = 30.

            She's 50% "used up".

            ...dread is a great game to play.

            .

            [–]bluedrygrass 20 points21 points  (4 children)

            Age 40 to 45 hardly could be called fertile years, the fertility is extremely low, it's difficult to get pregnant at that age and many already lost their fertility.

            The peak years are up to 25-30 years old

            [–]alanthemanofchicago 8 points9 points  (1 child)

            Yeah, I'd consider 40-45 to be "possible, not recommended" - you could become pregnant, but the woman is more prone to complications and the child has an increased risk of birth defects that make it not worth the risk, IMO

            [–]HeinousFu_kery 4 points5 points  (1 child)

            Age 40 to 45 hardly could be called fertile years

            Don't bet the bank on that - a friend of mine had his first kid when his wife was 51.

            I can't imagine being spermjacked at 50-something, but the crazy selfishness of women knows no bounds.

            [–]Thorbinator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            40+ vastly increases developmental disabilities. Don't bring a life into the world to suffer like that.

            [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

            Holy shit, now we just need a tinder plugin. Call it RP used-up meter. Instead of a girl's age it shows a meter with the labels "fresh", "stale"," or "decomposing"

            [–]NeoreactionSafe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            .

            • 15 -100%

            • 20 - 83%

            • 25 - 66%

            • 30 - 50%

            • 35 - 33%

            • 40 - 17%

            • 45 - 0%

            .

            [–]peruvianlurker 4 points5 points  (3 children)

            Great post, I have a big question, how do you send a girl on her way after you fucked her? and What's the best ways to do it?.

            Need help please.

            [–]1constructiveasshole[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

            "It was really nice to see you." Full stop. Smile. Stare at her.

            "Hey so I'll walk you out. (smile)"

            "So normally I'd invite you to stay over, but I have a huge [whatever] tomorrow morning and you wore me out (wink). But let's do this again soon!"

            Walk to the door and stand there. Polite hot girls will take that as a signal to leave.

            [–]OilyB 5 points6 points  (1 child)

            It mainly takes courage and confidence, not exactly 'how you say it'.

            • (first or 2nd silence after sex) "okay babe, I loved doing this but I'm getting up early tomorrow, so I'm a send you on your way." There. (Tender smile or loud gregarious tone or just after a kiss or after you take a leak)
            • daytime: "I need to pick up my son from school, will you leave with me?"
            • "You're not getting breakfast.. You mad?" (cue shit eating grin)
            • "I had fun, let's do this again soon? cuz I need to go now/I need to get some sleep now."

            Edit: shit eating grin

            [–]praguetologist 3 points4 points  (11 children)

            So when a girl says they're looking for serious relationships only, treat this as shit test and continue accordingly as if they're dtf that night? I don't have time to go on dates with girls who try to make me wait 3 dates to get laid.

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              [–]HeinousFu_kery 9 points10 points  (1 child)

              Well, I usually go on a second date and try again, and if I'm denied again I go radio silent. And guess what? That's when they get hold of me, out of the blue, suddenly ready to get boned.

              This. When I discovered this in college I thought I'd invented fire and apparently nothing has changed (this was in the 1980s).

              [–]praguetologist 0 points1 point  (7 children)

              Agree 100%. In Germany i feel Girls won't even kiss you on the first date and put up so many more defenses. There's not much of a hookup culture here and I think girls are super serious about not Hooking up unless it's serious

              [–]CS192837465 3 points4 points  (5 children)

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              What is this?

              [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

              She's overseas, no friends and family to judge her, ASD is down.

              In this case she chose you, more than anything

              [–]CS192837465 0 points1 point  (2 children)

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              What is this?

              [–]1constructiveasshole[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              Great work. I suspect the reason this went as well as it did was because a millisecond after she decides she's physically attracted to you as a stranger, she starts imagining the Hollywood romance that begins with a meet-cute and picturing your wedding. Double that if she's foreign. Then you went and gamed her friends after she left. You showed up and hugged her friend, she wondered "uh oh, what happened while I wasn't there?"

              [–]CS192837465 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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              What is this?

              [–]ChadThundercockII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              This is why I scratch my head at guys who say that life after college or whatever is harder. You can always get college girls on your free time. Some urban adventure won't hurt.

              [–]poochman 2 points3 points  (7 children)

              How'd you get her home on a first date? I struggle with that.

              [–]Purecorrupt 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              Live close to the date spot - walking distance.

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                [–]1constructiveasshole[S] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

                Second this guy. Plant the seed earlier in the date but don't mention it's in your apartment. Have a bunch of movies, or a streaming movie thing, talk about something that's out that you want to see or some tv show she likes. If she mentions she wants to do or see something, file it away for the end of the night- "Hey, I have that movie we were talking about downloaded at my place a couple blocks away."

                [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                Here's a tip. Take a picture with said interesting thing. Make sure it's in your Tinder/OKC/POF/ whatever the fuck you kids use nowadays dating profile. Don't showcase just have it strategically placed in the back ground and make sure it's actually something of interest and unique, "something I just have to see." During date sprnkle it in, or elements, then when it's time ...SHE will be asking to come over. Movies, music, coffee (only if they are rare)! High SMV guys aren't raving about Netflix and Chill, or some other pedestrian shit. Be interesting, belizean forks, African drums, framed finger painted canvases from the "intellectually challenged " children's home where you previously volunteered ( gave you freebie there. That's a 3-10usd arts and crafts project that could net thousands of dollars in quality pussy or you could volunteer and get actual kids to do it for you. Also take pics with the "disabled " kids)....High SMV guys have cool shit, that is not necessarily expensive.

                [–]ChadThundercockII 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Plus you'll get endless karma points for making a child happy. Win-Win

                [–]NiceTryDisaster 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Oh wow. Never until today did I even think that hookah can be a great excuse to get her home. Thank you.

                [–]Profdiddy 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                Thanks for the example. You are a constructive asshole.

                [–]tb87670 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Lesson learned, this young grasshopper just got some new moves he's about to apply soon....thx constructiveasshole!

                [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                Cool story and all, but you give off strong undertones of being in the anger/revenge phase....

                [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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                [–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

                Then let me help you to go to someplace that won't hurt your feelings.

                Banned.

                [–]I-am-redditor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                That link shows more pussie than expected.

                [–]throwurnutsaway -1 points0 points  (2 children)

                Good job. Women constantly lie to men, so lie right back and get what you want from her. Hell, the reason she fucked you is to acquire your money!!! But she will never confess.

                I need to lie more like OP did. Lying is what got him laid. But, I feel like I'm almost a sperg in that I hardly ever power talk; always straight talk.

                How do I get better at lying to get what I want and kill the beta urge to straight talk?? I swear it's the biggest impediment I have to pulling more ass.

                [–]1constructiveasshole[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

                You just have to commit. You have to be willing to fail. You have to not give a fuck.

                Invite a fat chick out for a walk in the park or beach for the sole purpose of practicing your shit test deflections. The fact that you have no desire to fuck her will make it easier for you to focus on what's behind her literal words.

                [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                this is genius and I like this very much

                [–]jdozebom -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                You don't have to pretend to be a beta provider. If you're alpha girls around that age bracket will put out because they want "one more shot" with an alpha. They want to be fucked real one last time. Fuck it I get that. If I knew soon I'd be 'fucking' a loose woman with a flabby body and a painfully fish-like personality both in and out of bed, I would be jamming my dick in everything hotter younger tighter. Basically alphas are to women what hot girls are to men- you get the shot you fucking take it.

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                [–]ihateyouguys 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                Have you tried that? How'd it go for you?