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Blue Pill ExampleMan's wife's been urging him to reverse his vasectomy. Why? She cheated, got pregnant, and wants an alibi. (self.TheRedPill)

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Summary:

Story from Childfree. His wife suddenly wants him to get his vasectomy reversed. I wonder why. He's willing to stay with her.

Original.

Update.


Body:

6 years ago, I met the most amazing woman I've never known. Let's call her Claire.

She was adventurous, intelligent, and incredibly talented (she's a violinist). We've been together since we met and married one year. 5 years and 10 months of that time has been absolutely blissful.

Even after marriage, he's put this woman on a pedestal. I can easily imagine loving a woman so much that you want to spend your entire life with her, but I could never imagine seeing someone like that. I'm always astonished by the objective tone (Ie. "She is incredible" as oppose to "I think she's incredible"). The tone implies that they literally cannot see the woman another way.

Since she stopped playing, she's become very depressed (and this isn't a self diagnosis - she goes to a therapist weekly now and she's on antidepressants). There were whole days when she was at her lowest when she didn't leave the house. She's told me that she feels like she doesn't have purpose anymore, and I hate that. Then, after she started the antidepressants, she decided that her calling in life was to raise children.

I hate kids, but if I honestly thought it would help her, I would become a dad.

Jesus Christ.

This is extraordinary supplication. Anybody with half a brain knows that a father who doesn't want to be a father and an alcoholic depressed mom will not be an effective parenting couple. This is not logic. This is a man who wants to move heaven and Earth to please someone who he's put on an impossible pedestal.

We've both been CF since we met. After our wedding, we got all the "when are the kids coming bingos", and she hated them more than I did. Now she's totally changed her mind, and has told me that it's really important to her that I have my vasectomy reversed. She's brought it up once or twice every day for the past week.

Well that's sudden...

After basically everyone both here and on [r]relationships said "go to couples therapy", we started going to couples therapy every other day,

Over the past week, I really thought that things were getting better. I felt hope, for this first time in weeks. We had talked through a lot of the things that had been depressing Claire and finding ways to work through them together.

Here's a thing I left out of the initial post because it was embarrassing to me. Claire has been drinking since her diagnosis. A lot. Not like "I never see her sober" a lot, but more than a person should drink a lot.

Fast forward to this morning. It was an emotional session the whole way through. It didn't help that last weekend was a concert from her former orchestra - we started off on that, and Claire broke down about it pretty quickly. We talked about that for a while, then some other things that I don't even really remember because I'm so fucking angry right now, then Claire brought up that she needed kids to be happy. Again. Fucking again.

He is reluctant to violate his inner image of her, by describing her alcoholism.

Again, look at the language of this post. He leads with justifications for her behavior. He says "Things depress her." He doesn't say that "She lets things get her down" or "She can't handle things" or anything else that gives his wife agency for her behavior. She is not an actor; she is acted upon.

When he finally does it, it's wrapped up in excuses. It's just a link in the causal chain that begun by the "things" that act upon her and the stress of her concert. A Red Pill Man would have written: "My wife couldn't handle things, and resorted to alcoholism." See the difference in how you'd have to see yourself and your wife, to describe her that way?

Long story short, this turns into a giant fight between Claire and I, refereed by our therapist, which culminated in her tearfully telling me that she's pregnant. One day, while I was at work, trying to fucking provide for her, she fucked some dude and got herself knocked up. And she thought if she could convince me to reverse my vasectomy maybe she could fucking get away with it.

When reading this, I was trying to imagine his writing process. I imagine that when writing the last block that I quote, his process was slow. "Should I include that? I should include the stress; they won't understand the story if I don't." But when he finally wrote the words "she's pregnant", OP snapped. I imagine a pause of anger, followed by a huge change of voice.

The second sentence is active, powerful, and contains the first curse word of the two posts. OP was trying to make excuses or narrations for his wife, but he couldn't hide her true nature, even from himself. Precursing it with "tearfully" to build sympathy for her didn't help. He snapped and identifies her with few words and no excuses as the manipulative little psychopathic whore that she really is.

I'm not a violent guy, but I very genuinely wanted to slap this shit out of her right then. I still don't know what's worse, the fact that she cheated on me, or the fact that she tried to trick me into raising another man's child - especially since she's known since we met that I fucking hate children, or the fact that she tried to use my love for her to manipulate me.

Look at the violent language and active tone. He's using violent imagery and swearing, which from the rest of these posts and his comments on the first thread seem like they are both atypical for him. What's really interesting here is how unnecessary this paragraph is. It doesn't progress the story or add detail. I bet the first half of the update was written slowly and carefully, but he just had an angry spike. This paragraph exists only to absorb the anger that he had when writing and he never edited it away because he didn't notice its extra-ness. The anger is the story. There is an inner battle going on in this angry man's life, and it seems like it hit a special spike while he was writing that part.

I called my boss and told him I wouldn't be able to make it back in today due to a family emergency. Let's call my boss Dan. Dan is the goddamn best boss I've ever worked for, and has become a good friend.

Dan seems like a good guy. The anger spike ended when he got his mind off of writing about her.

Miniupdate: I'm drunk and Fallout just finished downloading

So for point of view, this comment implies that he's probably had the time to calm down before checking the comment thread---which is unfortunate in my opinion. I like to see anger accompany injustice and I like to see it last. This was two hours after he left an angrily voiced comment agreeing with an insult towards his wife.

The comments are all very supportive of him, but it's childfree. That subreddit's a feminist hell, except a weird one because the women there hate pregnancy and "mombies" more than they hate men. They were telling him to divorce her, make sure he's not listed as the father, protect his assets, and they were saying some things about her that were as well deserved as they were unkind.

Unfortunately, our protagonist ultimately leaves a comment saying that he doesn't decide to leave his wife:

I haven't decided if I'm going to divorce her yet, but if she keeps the baby that decision is made for me. I'm not raising a little fucktrophy for her infidelity.

At least he has the self respect not to be a cuck father. Men have done worse in our blue pill world.


Lessons Learned:

  • The pedestal is one hell of a drug.

  • Denial and anger are a very interesting mixture.

  • Never marry.

  • And for God's sake, never reverse your vasectomy.


[–]One_friendship_plz 165 points166 points  (37 children)

The worst part about these stories that you men to need understand.
Is the fact that he would've never known if she didn't end up pregnant.

If she wasn't so incompetent as to not use birth control he would've been unknowingly cucked for a long time.

Try not to disregard these situations as "eh he was just unlucky, but my unicorn won't do that shit to me"
Try to stay off the high ground and learn from other peoples failures so you don't get fucked over.

[–]Betamax69 65 points66 points  (21 children)

Yeah. I had this scenario play out on me in 1991. I just got back from the gulf war to my duty station in Germany. My wife was the only spouse who didn't come to the homecoming on base when we returned.

I had to bum a ride to our off base apartment. She told me she was to tired to come get me after getting off work at the enlisted club and our daughter was already in bed. I forgave her because I was 20 and got a weekend of honeymoon welcome home sex.

Within a few weeks she told me she was pregnant. Then our relationship took a nosedive. She insisted she wanted to go home to the states. I did everything to win her back. But we know here at TRP that attraction is not negotiable. She finally trickle truth confessed that she had fallen in love with a soldier from the club she worked at. He had recently been rotated back to the states. We attended his going away party together.

I took all of my years leave and brought her back to the states. She was unwilling to reconcile and I returned to Germany to finish the last 6 months of my enlistment. In our tiny rural area of the country people naturally wondered why the pregnant wife of a soldier and her daughter would move home with her parents? She let everyone who would listen know that Betamax69 had beaten her and raped her and got her pregnant.

I returned home to hell. Even in '91 she didn't have to prove that I abused and raped her, I had to prove that I hadn't. The stress of me returning home caused her to go into premature labor 4 weeks before her due date. The full term baby was just fine and set off red flags for my lawyer. We insisted on a blood test.

She went berserk and finally after 3 months had to be court ordered to submit to the blood tests or be held in contempt of court.

Meanwhile her lawyer was able to get the divorce pushed through. I had no character witnesses. No one supports a wife beating rapist. Anyone I could get to support me was thousands of miles away in Germany. And there was no internet or Skype back then.

I was declared the father of the youngest daughter pending the paternity test results. I was ordered to pay child support for both children but was granted full visitation since the abuse and rape allegations could not stick as any police reports or witnesses did not exist.

We were divorced on a Wednesday and she married him that Saturday.

When my lawyer had me come to his office for the paternity test results I was actually shocked to learn I was NOT the father with a 99.99% certainty. My male hamster had me convinced that maybe I was the father. After I left his office I used a payphone on the street to call my ex.

Thinking that she would feel remorse? Maybe apologize? 23 years later and I can remember the scorn and disgust in her voice. The voice a woman reserves for the lowest of betas that defy her. "I would have gotten away with it if you had dropped the paternity test." I actually almost did several times.

Using a page from her playbook I spread the news that she had cheated and cucked me. My gossip was new and hers was old. As mentioned on another sub when faced with this type of transgression females lock arms and throw the offending female under the bus because NAWALT!

Her husband adopted the baby, reenlisted in the army and they got out of town. I got a couple of pity fucks from some of the women and a LTR with a single mom with 2 kids.
This convinced me that the blue pill strategy worked and I doubled down on the blue pills and washed them down with Windex.

The ex and her husband got stationed in Germany again. She lived the happy life of a stay at home mom with his money and my child support. After they got out of the military he got a great job with awesome pay in our states capital. So she got the nice house and cars and his and my money. Sorry kids, this is the real world.

She even convinced him to get a vasectomy so no more kids.

And then after 14 years together Chad Thundercock appeared and off she went at age 34 for one last ride on the CC. She spent 6 years with Chad and when he wouldn't commit she was passed around like a party favor from short LTR to short LTR and didn't understand why she couldn't lock any of these guys down. Today she lives alone working 2 jobs as a barista and a lunch lady and posting feminist stuff to her Facebook wall. Karma sometimes is a bitch.

Never get married.

[–]southernmost 19 points20 points  (7 children)

I have never understood why military guys get married. You're in a career that makes putting down roots very difficult, why drag a dependapotamus around?

It's even more incomprehensible because, if you're lucky or skilled, you get to travel the world, which, outside of war zones, is filled with women who love guys in uniforms.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Military men tend to be a bit more traditional, risk-happy, and confident. It's a deadly combination.

[–]Polaris382 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Also, dont forget for junior enlisted there are certain financial and other incentives (on the surface) to getting married.

[–]Betamax69 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Young and dumb is what I was. But you couldn't tell me that.

[–]crabpipe 3 points4 points  (1 child)

they get a pay raise if they get married, simple as that

[–]LazyMagus 6 points7 points  (3 children)

That's one long paragraph that I couldn't stop reading. All the best, man.

[–]Betamax69 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Thanks. I'm old and learning this formatting stuff. I typed it all out on my mobile. Sorry for puking a wall of text, but thanks for reading it.

[–]1Paid_Internet_Troll 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The trick on mobile is to leave two lines between paragraphs when you're typing it out.

[–]2renzy77 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Damn....I've noticed that military guys (especially those that have been deployed) have some of the most gut-wrenching stories when it comes to women's infidelity.

[–]Betamax69 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah. I know a few other guys that could sign their name to my story or me to theirs. It was AWALT we just didn't know what it was.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Come on man, you have such a powerful story. Don't ruin it with poor writing. Let's see some paragraphs here.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn bro, I am sorry that happened to you.

Good story though. Its got, like, a moral.

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        [–]dgcaste 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Someone was responding out of your user page ;)

        [–]laere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        This is why every man needs frame abundance and goals. Thats how you cure oneitis.

        [–]Viperys 10 points11 points  (3 children)

        My ex has ended up pregnant, had an abortion and half a year later told me that. Half a fucking year later! In hindsight i say that i had played a dangerous game - we had unprotected sex several times but i really can't know if i was the only one she had slept with. Even further late in the story we had a fierce argument, when she straight up said something among the likes of "i should have kept the baby to make your life hell!".

        [–]1AmlanceJockey 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Just as likely she was lying about the whole thing. The woman who doesnt tell you she had an abortion is the same woman who makes up an abortion for some sweet sweet drama.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I bet she would have made a great mother. Sounds like something my alcoholic loser mother would say.

        [–]Rougepellet 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        Do people here honestly have that mentality? TRP made me cynical as fuck and always bear in mind the possibility that nothing is as it seems. Not paranoid, just cynical (I like to think of it as realistic and devoid of any naiviety).

        [–]cmdcreep 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I have the exact same mindset.

        I, for instance, have a nice LTR going on for almost a year. She's young, very dedicated and despite minor misbehaving that I corrected, she have been humble enough to admit her mistakes(like the way she talk to me, stupid little lies and so forth) and have been, in general, a very loving SO.

        It's not that she's never going to cheat on me(this is the beta mindset). It's unlikely.

        Everything is going great, therefore, it's unlikely for her to cheat on me.

        The beta mindset would be:

        She would never cheat on me! She's wonderful and she's the best thing ever happened to me!

        The difference in these two mindsets is one considers the very nature of females, NAWALT and all that. The other one choses to ignore it.

        To be honest, I don't think a single soul here who have read more than a couple of paragraphs could possible think like that.

        [–]cashmoney_x 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Try not to disregard these situations as "eh he was just unlucky, but my unicorn won't do that shit to me" Try to stay off the high ground and learn from other peoples failures so you don't get fucked over.

        I'm with ya in spirit but the problem with this is if the guy thinks his girl is capable of such horrible shit he wouldn't be with her. The only way a guy is gonna be invested if the idea of her doing such a thing is preposterous because of how "incredible, amazing, kind, caring and compassionate" she is.

        [–]billythebeta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Try to stay off the high ground and learn from other peoples failures so you don't get fucked over.

        A good analogy is that it doesn't matter if you're a seasoned war veteran who has killed a thousand men. A child with a loaded gun aimed at you is as much a threat to your life as another skilled soldier.

        You are always in a position to be fucked by the world vis a vis women. Take the proper precautions and you will avoid a life of misery stemming from a handful of mistakes.

        [–]ReasonFreak 431 points432 points  (33 children)

        That vasectomy straight up saved this dude's life.

        [–]musclebound92 68 points69 points  (24 children)

        This is the moral of the story that I walk away with haha

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            [–]el_beso_negro 24 points25 points  (8 children)

            I read that the "experts" consulted on this law were a bunch of sociologists who claimed that fatherhood is not determined by biology, society determines fatherhood.

            France why so many "liberal arts experts" and why do you put up with this shite?

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              [–]TurduckenII 19 points20 points  (5 children)

              France has an extensive welfare, healthcare and social support system. It's not about whether you want the child or not. It's about keeping as many people as possible off of government support while still maintaining the welfare state for those who they think need it more. If paternity tests were allowed, lots of fathers would walk out of their families, leaving single moms to ask the government for support. That's why they're banned, "to preserve the peace of French families" is only an excuse.

              If cuckolded fathers never find out about it and unknowingly raise another man's child, then the government just saved lots of money for both mother and child that it would have just handed out. There's a small industry in Spain of supplying paternity tests to France for this very reason.

              [–]Iron_Termite 9 points10 points  (1 child)

              Here in China, the Government calls you and tells you to get an abortion if you have 3 or more kids.

              [–]other_worlds 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              I wish I could upvote more than once. This is the absolute truth. The current state of some nations extensive welfare systems causes the governments enacting laws for the government's protection and benefit, instead of their citizen's protection.

              It's a huge travesty, but laws like this have enough 'smokescreen' to make it seem like it was for the benefit of families.

              [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              So much the better for those of us who aren't married!

              [–]bad_pattern8 5 points6 points  (3 children)

              if you're in the hospital with her when that baby is born, you're paying for it for the next 18 years whether it's yours or not

              [–]CornyHoosier 1 point2 points  (2 children)

              Getting an in-the-womb paternity test is very invasive and expensive. You won't know about the baby till it's out.

              [–]Syberr 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              you can take peripheral blood (i.e. standard blood) from the mother during pregnancy and determine paternity nowadays.

              It's been comercially available for a couple of years, but it's significantly costlier

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

              maybe he would have gotten lucky and the kid might have been a different race and the judge would actually let him off the hook

              [–]CrazedHyperion 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              Did you know that there were instances where an African couple, both black as black can be, gave birth to white children? It is theoretically possible and there were antecedents.

              [–]beginner_ 16 points17 points  (6 children)

              True. But you should do a paternity test anyway even if your wife is holy Mary herself (or especially then).

              [–]Endorsed ContributorTDCRedPill 44 points45 points  (3 children)

              Man, that girl REALLY knew how to stick to her story.

              [–]beginner_ 28 points29 points  (2 children)

              Yeah it's funny that a main pillar of Christianity is probably just another case of infidelity.

              [–]redkick 10 points11 points  (0 children)

              I'm as atheist as can be, but even I think that this part was just written in to add some mysticism and to keep her “untainted”. It doesn't have to have been cuckolding.

              [–]commanderchobo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Actually like a lot of religions the mother was a virgin and Christianity just borrowed the story from another religion. Its all made up anyway but figured I'd let you know

              [–]SoundMake 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              even if your wife is holy Mary herself (or especially then).

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPwxgml0Q3A

              [–]TheBloodEagleX 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Definitely, vasectomy still has a chance of leading to pregnancy, although quite rare. Wish I had to charge from my Bio class to show the chances.

              [–]laere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              When in doubt get a vasectomy.

              [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 79 points80 points  (5 children)

              Crazy story from the comments:

              I went through a divorce with a woman that got pregnant through her ex boyfriend and then told me the baby was mine "if I want it to be."

              Fuck no.

              [–]joh2141 25 points26 points  (4 children)

              Is that bitch serious? LOL... Even for the irrationality of women, that's taking a bit far.

              [–]Solomonceed 8 points9 points  (0 children)

              There are men, though, with literally zero self-respect whatsoever. As long as there are men who let themselves get cucked hard, why shouldn't women take advantage of that? It's the amoral, Machiavellian thing to do and women naturally are exactly that: Machiavellian.

              [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

              it would be a crazy question, if so many men didn't answer it 'yes'

              Can't call someone crazy for doing what seems to work more often than not

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              [–]the99percent1 51 points52 points  (12 children)

              Don't underestimate women... She's already 3 steps ahead of him. You think she hasn't thought about the consequence of him not reversing his vasectomy? Hell no.. She knows what to do next.

              She will play him for the sucker that he is. "She will play the I'm weak and helpless without you. The baby will grow up and call you Dad." She will then proceed to suck his dick the hardest she's ever done and fuck him until he knocks out cold.

              [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (8 children)

              If this isn't true. I used to think women were just randomly manipulative and irrational. I know now that it mostly isn't random. i think some of their conditioning makes their actions random at times, but most of the time they have a plan. Women are always scheming. They have so many agendas, whether or not they are truly aware of them or not still intrigues me.

              But I believe women see how their mothers manipulate their dads and other men in society and learn that before they go to grade school. Both of my girls (6 and 2) are already very adept at climbing on my lap and loving on me to get a toy or candy before dinner or whatever. I remember as a child, I would ask and get a hard no and just give a "fuck you" look back.

              I think you are right. She has played all scenarios out in her head and even practiced her facial expressions for each one.

              [–]2renzy77 10 points11 points  (6 children)

              If this isn't true. I used to think women were just randomly manipulative and irrational. I know now that it mostly isn't random. i think some of their conditioning makes their actions random at times, but most of the time they have a plan. Women are always scheming. They have so many agendas, whether or not they are truly aware of them or not still intrigues me.

              Our culture used to be more willing to acknowledge this aspect of female behavior, before feminism made it politically incorrect to voice any negative stereotypes about women (especially if those stereotypes were based in truth).

              In fact, there was even a name for this aspect of female behavior: Designing Women. A "Designing Woman" referred to a woman who was a scheming, conniving, plotting woman and it was generally inferred to mean a woman who was plotting to victimize an unsuspecting man.

              As Roger Devlin points out in The Question of Female Masochism:

              Women who relied on trickery and deception in their dealings with the opposite sex used to be referred to pejoratively as “designing women”—an expression which has largely disappeared from our language.

              Our culture used to be a lot more honest about women's dark side. Now that it's not, a lot of men are clueless as to how deceptive and manipulative women can really be which makes men easy marks for women.

              [–]CornyHoosier 5 points6 points  (5 children)

              I, like many here, was raised by women only. Even in my beta days I could see female scheming from a mile away because I had literally seen it my whole life. The thing is, I don't blame women for doing that at all, it is their defense mechanism. They are clearly the physically weaker sex so needed a way to level the playing field. However, to add comment to what you said, this whole idea of not being able to call someone out is infuriating to say the least.

              [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 4 points5 points  (4 children)

              The thing is, I don't blame women for doing that at all, it is their defense mechanism. They are clearly the physically weaker sex so needed a way to level the playing field.

              Yes, pre-civilization, before the creation of law and law enforcement (police) women needed it as it balanced things out v. male strength. I presuppose that all the behaviours which fall under the umbrella of AWALT such as the hamster, stockholm syndrome and innate cunning are all necessary evolutionary adaptations to ensure female survival. They couldn't fight their way out of trouble, so they had to cry and lie instead.

              Now men are handicapped and can't use their innate proficiency (their strength) to punish misdeeds, but head fucking people (women's proficiency) isn't outlawed when it's just as dangerous. Thus men are outclassed and at a disadvantage, the balance has been disrupted, and this is why more and more men are looking to Machiavellianism to redress the balance. Men are having to learn to beat women at their own game simply to have healthy relationships with 'em. Shit's fucked up!

              [–]growingstronk 1 point2 points  (3 children)

              I see what you're getting at here, but I feel if you have to resort to violence to keep things equal, then you must have been a weak man in the first place. Men didn't just need Machiavellian ism for dealings with women, but other men in the tribe as well.

              [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 2 points3 points  (2 children)

              Not that I endorse it, but there's a reason women who get beat never leave their men (it's known as battered wife syndrome) - in fact a lot of the time they really love the man (they respect the power of violence) and blame themselves for "forcing him to punish her"

              I think that's really fucked up shit, but true nonetheless. Women have evolved an element of masochism not present in men. It's not so common nowadays, but once upon a time, eg: 10,000 years ago - I suspect it was as normal as washing your animal hide clothing in the local river. Women in touch with their masochistic side get into BDSM and 50 shades of grey type shit precisely because this male rough-handling/violence is mostly absent in the modern day. This is also why violent bad boy types always get pussy and nice guys get nada, it's not just about attitude, it's about the allure of power inherent to violence (something you characterise as weakness).

              I read a sociology study trying to reconcile how women who are feminists can be submissives in BDSM. The whole thing was fucking laughable, full of platitudes and hamstering about how holding your asshole open whilst being whipped and called a slut is empowering. One can hamster away our animal nature and how we came to be, but the signs are still there today. A so-called triumph of feminism is undone by women's carnal desires. Hilarious.

              [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              On the subject of male violence and bad boy loose cannons that beat women I believe you had a poll recently about which archetype men thought was more masculine: the stoic and calm man or the aggressive and violent man. Most men voted for stoicism, but I believe this to be where what men define as masculine probably isn't what women naturally desire. Similar to how buying your sweetheart flowers seems romantic but is a vagina pruner. My personal opinion is its probably about wearing your Machiavellian masks. When to be a stoic and calm rock in the stormy sea, and when to be the stormy sea.

              [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              I believe you had a poll recently about which archetype men thought was more masculine: the stoic and calm man or the aggressive and violent man. Most men voted for stoicism, but I believe this to be where what men define as masculine probably isn't what women naturally desire.

              I agree. I value both aggression and stoicism (obviously not at the same time!), but time and time again I observe it's the macho angry guys who get the most respect socially.

              [–]1Jax77789 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Rollo Tomassi has a good post about that. He calls it the feminine mystique. It is basically fabricated stupidity and benign childish erratic behavior that is used to cover up their real intents.

              Throw in some impulsive fits and tantrums, some crying here and there and you have stupefied the audience.

              [–]joh2141 11 points12 points  (0 children)

              TBH She probably didn't even have to suck his dick the hardest and fuck him. At least from how he was acting, sounds like she dictates whether he gets the pussy or not.

              [–]darkrood 10 points11 points  (0 children)

              Oh THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!!!

              well... her Children, mostly

              [–]markyLEpirate 20 points21 points  (2 children)

              Once the seed of doubt is planted, it grows

              [–]SoundMake 11 points12 points  (1 child)

              brb going to go watch Inception again.

              [–]OperationRedFlamingo 52 points53 points  (4 children)

              She's in mourning. She's lost a huge part of herself and her identity. And she's just been diagnosed with a chronic illness. Shit, the latter would be fucking bad enough for someone who is not a pro violinist, but for someone who is, who is losing a job, a hobby and a passion.... that's a double whammy. If she were not at least a little depressed and lost, it would be pretty damn surprising.

              I LOL'd so hard when I read this. So now we have to add "lost" to the ever-growing list of code words for, "On Another Man's Dick."

              [–]TheMGhandi 18 points19 points  (2 children)

              [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              sure, you can feel bad for her, it must be hard.

              I felt bad for old yeller too, but the boy had to put him down in the end.

              [–]herewegoaga1n 31 points32 points  (3 children)

              Life just handed him a "Get out of jail free" card. I hope he makes the most of it. This is more of a warning than an anecdote: Even if married, she won't give a fuck about you.

              Don't get caught raising some other man's sprog.

              [–]Borsao66 25 points26 points  (0 children)

              Tyler Durden: Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel's life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted.

              [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

              More like a "Get out of jail for the price of a divorce-rape" card.

              I still hope he takes it.

              [–]sweetleef 11 points12 points  (0 children)

              Even if married, she won't give a fuck about you.

              Even worse: if married, she'll give less of a fuck about you.

              The female objective is to secure committment, and all of their actions with respect to men are geared towards that goal. Once that goal is achieved they will only do what is absolutely necessary to avoid losing it.

              Marrying her is a declaration that you've made it more difficult to leave her, so it's automatically a license for her to lower her effort level. And she'll keep lowering it so long as she believes you'll stay.

              If she believes that the committment is absolutely secure (or that it's useless to her, for example because you get injured), then all effort to please you stops, and most times she goes in the other direction and becomes vicious and abusive, resentful of having to waste her time at all. At that point any effort by her is, in her mind, equivalent to working for free.

              [–]1favours_of_the_moon 33 points34 points  (8 children)

              One day, while I was at work, trying to fucking provide for her, she fucked some dude and got herself knocked up. And she thought if she could convince me to reverse my vasectomy maybe she could fucking get away with it.

              Yeah, I'm sure it was just that "one day." lol

              [–]pardonmeimdrunk 4 points5 points  (5 children)

              He believes it was one day, that's not even one of his concerns. She's been whoring for months if not years.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

              maybe he works in science.

              All he can confirm is the once.

              I mean, does it change anything if it was 2, 3... n?

              The once is all that matters in this scenario

              [–]pardonmeimdrunk 0 points1 point  (3 children)

              It does change things if it's more than once, it doesn't make her any more of a ho, but it means he was played even harder than he thinks and he needs to realize this.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

              Bullshit. A guy who gets shot once, or shot three times isn't going to change his next step. Get your ass to the hospital, and stop trying to dodge bullets

              [–]pardonmeimdrunk 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              Huh? ...when looking back at your life, full of lead, you don't think you'll wonder why the fuck you didn't go to the hospital after the first shot?

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              don't get lost in the metaphor, you get the point.

              [–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (4 children)

              They were telling him to divorce her, make sure he's not listed as the father, protect his assets, and they were saying some things about her that were as well deserved as they were unkind.

              Only in the worst circumstances do other "advice" subreddits and TRP align in the advice they give.

              I haven't decided if I'm going to divorce her yet, but if she keeps the baby that decision is made for me. I'm not raising a little fucktrophy for her infidelity.

              Hopefully he comes around. He's got a basis for self-respect, he just needs to harness it.

              [–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 24 points25 points  (3 children)

              little fucktrophy

              I laughed when I got to this part. This suggests that he's on the cusp of being ready to swallow the Red Pill. However...

              Miniupdate: I'm drunk and Fallout just finished downloading (snip) I haven't decided if I'm going to divorce her yet

              NOOOOOOO! I've made the mistake of quashing righteous anger with miscellaneous libations, which led to letting egregious problems slide. Protip: COMPLETE the necessary course of action, like kick her out, THEN get drunk/stoned/whatever.

              [–]LionLegacy 107 points108 points  (9 children)

              This guy, who is actually considering staying with his whore wife despite the fact that she tried to trick him into raising someone elses child, called the MGTOW sub "pretty fucking pathetic".
              I swear to god I would do the world a favor and put a bullet through my mouth if I were ever as worthless as this retarded cuck

              [–]anooblol 82 points83 points  (7 children)

              called the MGTOW sub "pretty fucking pathetic".

              Don't worry, he's the pathetic one now. "The most amazing woman he's ever known" is an alcoholic, who cheated on him, wasn't competent enough to use birth control [or make the guy wear a condom], then tried to get him to raise a random guy's bastard son.

              [–]FiveLions 40 points41 points  (3 children)

              The best part is he probably really thinks that they fucked only 'one-time', the utter essence of delusionality..too pathetic on his part to be laughable. If I was him, I'd get new sheets.

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                [–]MuleJuiceMcQuaid 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                Some guys will swallow a bullet before they ever swallow TRP.

                [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

                wasn't competent enough to use birth control [or make the guy wear a condom]

                That's not incompetence. She wanted to get pregnant with alpha sperm and then sucker her beta provider into raising it.

                [–]LionLegacy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                That's exactly the case.
                The male hamster can be as pathetic as the female one

                [–]bidi123 16 points17 points  (0 children)

                He is his own worst punishment.

                Whore will dump him few years from now, steal half of his shit with divorce rape and sue him for child support for a child that is not even his. AWALT

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                [–]markyLEpirate 5 points6 points  (9 children)

                How much did it cost? And was it a botch or was it a normal thing to have pain?

                [–]PanzerBatallion 10 points11 points  (3 children)

                Its not normal to have pain, but a small percentage (2-4) of men do.

                I was in constant pain for 5 months. So much so that the anti inflammatories have now wrecked my stomach. I lost 15lbs in 2 weeks because I can't eat. All because your body isn't designed to be on an advil and vicodin cocktail for 5 months straight. I'm down to eating once a day because that's all I can manage without being in complete agony for the rest of the day.

                This shit has risks and consequences, kids. Make sure you understand them fully before you get snipped. Theres a very large percentage of guys that will get snipped on Friday and be back at work on Monday. And then there's another group of guys who won't be. That group is MUCH smaller than the other group, but it exists.

                Educate yourself fully before you undergo any elective procedure, don't just do it because people tell you its a good idea.

                [–]markyLEpirate 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                I've wanted to get one since I was 16 just to make sure I didn't fuck up my life like everyone in my family. I hear they won't even let you do it till you're 25 though

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                  [–]Betamax69 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  Yeah. My insurance from work covered vasectomy cost at 100%. If you want a reversal it was cash out of your pocket. It's way cheaper for the company to sterilize you than to cover a pregnancy, delivery, and health-care for the lifetime of your child. I always joked that I made myself a neutered worker drone. Then I realized it wasn't a joke.

                  [–]PanzerBatallion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I always joked that I made myself a neutered worker drone. Then I realized it wasn't a joke.

                  Even more than that, what do you think being in that much sexual pain does to your drive?

                  Mine has dropped off to near non existent, because why have sex if you're just gonna be doubled over for half an hour afterwards? I had a pretty steady pain throughout the day, and then very intense post orgasmic pain.

                  The joke with my buddies now is that the vasectomy stopped me from having more kids, only it didn't have anything to do with my sperm count.

                  [–]markyLEpirate 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  Damn. It is really tempting though..

                  [–]bea5tly 140 points141 points  (7 children)

                  I feel a update coming soon. Well we didn't divorce and this kiddo is actually pretty awesome. Our family life is great now guys!

                  6 months later: Man kills family and himself.

                  lol

                  [–]joh2141 14 points15 points  (2 children)

                  "This new baby that is not my baby actually brought the two of us closer together!" 2 years later divorce and the guy ends up sleeping in a studio in run down city when he's supposed to be making 6 figure salary.

                  [–]zincH20 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                  and don't forget the child support!

                  [–]joh2141 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  Ahaha I didn't forget hence why he lives in a studio with 6 figure salary.

                  [–]sir_wankalot_here 21 points22 points  (1 child)

                  Don't be stupid, that rarely happens. More like a headline "Man feels empowered because sir wanaklot empowered his wife". Then he will become a humanist idol.

                  Unfortunately nice guys like sir wankalot never get the recognition they deserve. I helped empower her also.

                  [–]boogalooshrimp1103 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  the original post is a month old. i dont think the guy has mentioned it again

                  [–]rolandontheriver 19 points20 points  (0 children)

                  So, did anyone not notice the fact she was an "alcoholic" while carrying a child. I feel bad for this poor bastard child. Mother seems to personify the word fucktard and the real father probably won't be around. Damn.

                  [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                  Pretty sure this was already posted here before...

                  Anyway,being a BP cuck is so scary..having to "obey" an alpha-widowed & entitled princess' demands for your entire life,all while she continues riding the CC behind your back despite being "married",no freedom whatsoever without her "permission/approval",raising a kid that isn't your own,and having only small parts of the house you paid for all to yourself(read: mancave) instead of being able to do as you damn please. Obviusly any fun hobby he might want to have(like me regarding guns) would be rare for him to grasp and invest in.And if he wanted out? Divorce +Alimony rape GG.Its like...worse than hell itself lol.

                  Hmm...i know they are spineless but...what if those beta cucks saved up some money secretely,prepare his luggage near a friend,just "go out to buy from a convinience store/go out for a smoke" then takes a plane to get the hell out of there to some far obscure country+living there(like Croatia,or Phillipines,or some of the Middle East countries). Wouldn't he be able to dodge the alimony + divoce rape + raising a kid that isn't his if he went there?

                  It happens ocassionaly here when a Flipino OFW(Oversees worker) starts a new family in another country while having a family here too. Can't the guys from the US do the same?

                  I know for feminism this is considered running away and its a nice middle finger to their face.

                  [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  This is totally an option, and it's not unheard of. People have fled the country for a lot less I'd imagine. My divorce-raped friend is considering doing just this. Unfortunately he's got a couple boys that he loves dearly and would hate to be away from. I encouraged him to stick around for his boys, as they will need their father because their mom is pretty messed up.

                  Though I also told him if SHTF, I wouldn't blame him for bailing, and would try to keep an eye out for his boys, as they see me as an uncle type figure.

                  Don't get married.

                  [–]boredguy93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  you'd be giving up the house/cars etc but it could work

                  [–]yeoxnuuq 35 points36 points  (9 children)

                  I seriously think this is my ex wife. Divorced her 6 years ago, violinist, drank a lot, self diagnosed depressive, if her real name is Wendy....this is such a hoot.

                  [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                  We must get to the bottom of this!!!!

                  [–]The_BeardedGentleman 16 points17 points  (0 children)

                  This woman got married just shy of 6 years ago so that would be quite funny.

                  [–]Tarnsman4Life 2 points3 points  (5 children)

                  Oh man I have to know the follow up; we need like a Red Pill slut database or something

                  [–]PanzerBatallion 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                  Wouldn't it just be simpler to catalog the non-sluts?

                  [–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (0 children)

                  Interesting writing technique, looking at language and predicting his writing process. I like it.

                  [–]1rporion 55 points56 points  (16 children)

                  Well, at least he has Fallot 4 now.

                  Even though I got friendzoned by Piper.

                  [–]the99percent1 20 points21 points  (9 children)

                  Fucking sad state of things.. video games really is the beta males best friend...

                  I'd be so filled with rage that my wife had an extramarital affair.. I'd pound the gym harder, come back, yell at her throw the papers and divorce her pregnant ass.

                  But no.. because this beta is too busy playing video games and collecting loot to care enough for the serious trespass against him.

                  [–]DforDeadpool 9 points10 points  (5 children)

                  It may be a phase, man. Before discovering TRP, my disillusioning experience hit me hard. Like a punch in the teeth. Like a kick in the nuts. Like I drunkenly grabbed a Scotsman rugby player's girlfriend's sweet ass. Anyway, I was pretty much done, I was shattered, I walked around like a ghost for 2-3 weeks before swallowing the red pill. He'll come around too. If he ever can.

                  [–]netherlanddwarf 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                  I'm 28 just had that disillusioning experience this Halloween. It's funny how we all think we are invincible before we figure out the sick truth.

                  [–]DforDeadpool 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  I was 21. Guess I'm lucky. I thought "I'm handsome, I'm fit, I'm funny and nice, I have money, what else? Every woman should love me" and after I've seen I was terribly wrong because I wasn't enough of a man.

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  But then we discover the truth and we are invincible.

                  [–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Yeah, it took me months to get over my disillusioning experience. I was well and truly broken.

                  Sometimes it just takes time to process these things.

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  in the past, a man would have gotten the bottle, a prostitute, slapped the shit out of her, or killed someone/self.

                  If anything, this is the most productive way I can see him reflecting on his life at this point... So long as he doesn't replace eventual action with that game

                  [–]BoTuLoX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I'd be so filled with rage that my wife had an extramarital affair that I'd divorce her and play some videogames.

                  [–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 3 points4 points  (1 child)

                  Doesn't help that the "flirt" option consists of cringe-worthy shit that wouldn't work on real women. Thankfully, you can save-scum her until she decides she does like it.

                  [–]TheWorldToCome 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                  Video games are a mans best friend.

                  [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  video games are his sedative.

                  IT's good to sedate someone who has been horribly damaged, gives the body a chance to heal, but at somepoint, he will have to wake up and take action.

                  It's a friend... to a point

                  [–]R3v4mp3d 10 points11 points  (7 children)

                  Why don't people have simple solutions to simple problems. She stopped her hobby and was depressed. Why doesn't she start it again? Why doesn't she get another hobby?

                  I find it crazy to go from "man I don't play violin anymore for X reason and I'm bored" to couple's therapy, cheating and getting pregnant, ripping your husband off, alcohol abuse and pills.

                  [–]zincH20 14 points15 points  (1 child)

                  i think her new hobby was hitting the bottle and getting cummed in...

                  [–][deleted]  (4 children)

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                    [–]dankcaked 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                    Man, I absolutely hate seeing things like this. Not because it was a failed relationship, but because he was so emotionally invested in her.

                    You cant blame the guy for acting this way. Everything a young man see's in today's society told him to act this way. He was only doing what he thought was right.

                    I think many guys here have been in some of the same situations or similar. Very few of us figured out the extreme level of unsucessfullness in relationships by intuition. Something probably happened to make you question it.

                    I think that is where this community falls short. But "venting" to trp/punching bag will help him through the "transition phase." This dude is going to be emotionally fucked up for a period of time. There's not really any good advice for how to deal with emotions like this dude has. He has no idea how to deal with it. He says he feels like slapping the shit out of her, but he knows he cant do that so he just gets drunk and crawls into a video game hole to not think about it.

                    I think everyone has to come to terms with the way modern relationships are now a days, but actually doing that is what I think people struggle with. Yea, there are a dozen different communities telling you how to deal with life afterwords, but not much on actually dealing with life during.

                    Being thankful that he had a vasectomy, and minimized damaged will not help this guy fix that realization. Nor will teaching him how protect his assets in divorce. Teaching him how to continue his life with a different approach to things wont help him deal with his feelings now. Hopefully they just come out in some appropriate way. Which I feel like is very hard to define reguardless of who you're talking to.

                    [–]night-addict 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                    I agree with you on all but one point.

                    You say that she now is "revealed" to be a total nutter, but remember: when a man's status falls below a woman's, he becomes invisible to her, he is an object. She believes herself to be utterly rational in her thinking, as she does not think of this man as a man anymore. (hamster, ladder theory)

                    Also, remember that every gun is loaded. All women have the potential to do this. So do not let your frame down, and keep improving. (AWALT)

                    [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                    I think the guy is gone based on the fact he didn't decide to leave the wife yet.

                    This all reinforces a belief in me that all women will want kids at least when they hit 30, even if they think otherwise before.

                    [–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                    This has been consistent with my experience as well.

                    Just about every woman I know, at about 27, starts to get baby rabies, at ever increasing levels.

                    At least in America, something like 90% (I think it was 87%) of women have a baby by age 45.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Mine just turned 29. TBH, the talk started at 23, and dwindled handily. TBH, the only other time it's come up was after our main event... When she attempted to shit test me with a list of demands, as if she got any say after her bullshit.

                    I have another year, time will tell.

                    [–]its2complicated 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                    Lessons Learned:
                    
                    * The pedestal is one hell of a drug.
                    

                    Don't apply this to women only, never put anyone on a pedestal. Anyone.

                    * Denial and anger are a very interesting mixture.
                    

                    The anger is from self hate. But it is a very good starting point to finally put things in their place, if and you can maintain the anger.

                    * Never marry.
                    

                    I would go one step further. Never share a house, apartment or even accept any kind of living arrangement. Most jurisdictions will treat a relationship as marriage after one year of coexistence. Stay away from sharing.

                    * And for God's sake, never reverse your vasectomy.
                    

                    Again, one step further, for those who, as I, don't have one. Always test for fatherhood. Always. Cannot stress that enough. Sure, if you want kids, as I did, make sure they are yours as soon as possible. Preferably, prior to letting her put your name on the birth certificate.

                    [–]Betamax69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I have heard you are not the father from a blood test from 2 different WIVES over the course of my lifetime.

                    [–]joh2141 8 points9 points  (5 children)

                    Stories like this make me want to never even get in another relationship. My last one ended somewhat similar although there were no other guys and just her wanting a child. I told her she has to take a pregnancy test because I got suspicious. Turns out she wasn't pregnant or cheating on me, she just really wanted kids with me. Still that shit is crazy.

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                      [–]Jaghiro 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                      Guy with LTR of almost 7 years here. Im 23.

                      Let me tell you something, it won't get better. My GF is annyoing me with that shit since shes 20. She's 23 too now and tells me "You know, if I dont get a child in the next 2 years I will get crazy"

                      My answer is always: "Meh, we will see", I don't see any reason to raise a child if I'm not financial stable and at the beginning of my career.

                      [–]Betamax69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Seriously if they get their baby or babies in their late teens or early twenties they always see their child free friends riding the CC and then hamster it to be your fault that she is locked down.

                      [–]joh2141 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      Yeah it all started when my ex's sister gave birth to her first child. Then she got all Latina on me 'I need to have kids no matter how old I am.'

                      I thought maybe it was just baby fever right after her niece is born. But nah that shit continues and gets worse. Also during sex, she stopped using birth control without telling me; I found out by finding the pills in her trash can. MID sex. That shit is the most infuriating thing when you're about to nut and you force yourself to stop. She began to start soft-coercing me into having kids. She said something similar like how she is going to go crazy without a baby.

                      The crazy part was just few months before that we were making plans to go on long trips far away to go hiking and all that. Man honestly I thought I found the girl I could actually marry in several years but of course the crazy comes out.

                      It's inevitable. TRP may sound like a bunch of victimized men who hate on women sometimes but they get one thing right; don't get married.

                      My parents have the most successful marriage I've ever seen and it's really not that amazing. My dad is constantly compromising to do things for my mom and his kids instead of doing the things he wanted to do in life. My mom is codependent on my dad and goes on these nag sprees. My dad doesn't bother stopping her because he's just too damn tired from work and age is catching up. Let's be realistic; if you have a picture perfect marriage life, chances are it's fake or something very rare. Like that guy in China who cared for his wife who became paralyzed for life after they got married.

                      [–]joh2141 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Yeah that baby nut job thing scares me shitless and there's not a lot of things in this world that can scare me. She was like a year out of high school too. I'm a little older than you but regardless I still think it is way too early to have kids right now. Deep down I'm still like a kid I guess; carefree and doing whatever the fuck I want.

                      As far as that whole scared of getting women pregnant... yeah who knows. ALl I know is make sure you bring your own condom and if you learned anything from this story, vasectomy can save your life... that is of course unless you WANT kids in the future.

                      Antoher weird thing is I too have recently been getting a lot of girls I been with wanting kids. But unlike you I can't help myself. I can't stop. I don't like condoms too. I mean I use them because pulling out is retarded (one of my closest friends nutted and gave twins to his now ex wife who is batshit insane and lying/accusing him of sexually assaulting his daughter.

                      But yeah right now I'm stuck in the same cycle. I switched majors because I couldn't sit down and work hedge-fund jobs for 12 hours a day, now going into nursing... but that means I won't have a steady income for a bit longer. Women just don't understand that. Isn't it better that I don't have kids and not get screwed? If I get kids, struggle, stress, barely make enough she's gonna fuck another dude anyways. Might as well take kids out of the equation that saves a lot of money. Am I fucked up for thinking like that? Because women sure as hell treat me that way.

                      [–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 14 points15 points  (5 children)

                      Personally, I'd push her to get an abortion and THEN I'd divorce her.

                      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                      I wouldn't factor 'her' into any further decisions in his life.

                      She's done enough damage. Him getting fallout for himself is truly the first selflish act he's done. I hope there are more

                      [–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                      Yes, but with the abortion that means no child support payments when she writes his name on the birth certificate.

                      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      I'm sure there are better ways to mitigate that

                      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                      Might push her over the edge and result in murder/suicide. Not worth the drama

                      [–]IronMeltsinmyHands 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                      women will tie shit up so good, you'll think an elf wrapped it up for you and gave it to santa claus.

                      she is tying everything is, changing the names and numbers and working in her issues into the pot that is going on. she's got her pregnancy shit in there, and is manipulating this faggot.

                      and i for one, think its great that he wanted to smack her. you don't see a lot of Al Pacino smacking the shit out of his woman nowadays [godfather, when his bitch wife got an abortion. skank.]

                      I'm not raising a little fucktrophy for her infidelity.

                      man's got balls.

                      Think of it all this way, "i need you to do something for me to solve my problem [in this case, get a vasectomy for me, so i can use it as an excuse and just brush this one under the rug]." aren't women always going "i dont want you to solve my problems. i just want to talk about it." why does this slut all of a sudden want help?

                      [–]JohnGalt316 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                      incredible woman

                      depressed, alcoholic cheater

                      pick one

                      [–]Ruri 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      God bless vasectomies.

                      Also, is no one going to comment on the fact that this ripe cunt was also basically an alcoholic while being knowingly pregnant?

                      "Incredible" indeed.

                      [–]Evileddie13 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                      This hits a nerve for me. My father was raised by a stepfather who didn't want him and a mother who supported that. He real father 'asked' him if he wanted to come live with him. ASKED. A TEN YEARS OLD. A father should claim his children. My grandmother was a cunt.

                      [–]angryuser_trp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Fuck the pedestal. Chances are she really was just that awesome to be around with for that long. But this is just biology 101, you could call it AWALT, but in this case I'd like to take the pejorative part out of it.

                      I find it funny every fucking time this happens to someone; he believed the woman could go CF all the way. It doesn't happen unless there's something wrong with the woman's health or she's is just a plain anomaly destined to have her faulty genes forgotten due to, obviously, not procreating. Even if she was irreversibly sterile, she most likely will end up being heavily depressed for not being able to fulfill her motherly instincts.

                      It is our biological imperative to procreate. Women will feel it sooner or later more strongly then men. She wants you to cum inside her so she can have the baby. Her goal is having the baby. For some of us men it may just be about busting the nut and later on acknowledging there's now more crew on the captain's ship.

                      Biological impulses do not have to be rational. Rational thing for her to do would be to either wait until her husband gets the vasectomy reversed or find someone else altogether. But the hormones demand pregnancy now (this is also why your girlfriend on hormonal contraception pill doesn't feel like having that much sex anymore - her body is fooled into thinking it already is pregnant). All the CFs need to realize that this day will in majority of cases come and will not go away unsatisfied. Therapy in this case can offer only temporary suppression of this biological need. In other words, he's the stupid one for swimming against the fucking current. You can't go CF and expect to be happy for a lifetime. Sooner or later your body will start telling you that something is wrong, be it manifested through depression, unidentifiable nervous and health problems or other.

                      [–]TheDude41 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      ALWAYS get a paternity test.

                      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      I don't get it. I can understand you post your story to like offmychest as a way to spill your guts. Writing can help soothe, I like to use this medium as well when dealing with life's frustrations.

                      However, if he's posting on say relationships then he's simply retarded. The second you find out that your spouse has been unfaithful, there is no other option than to divorce her.

                      [–]CyberninjaZen 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                      I think I have read this before or maybe it's just happened again with different people.

                      [–]clint_bronson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      I hope that by Fallout, he means the first one, and not the 3rd or 4th which are complete pieces of shit.

                      Yes, that's all i got from this post.

                      [–]NaughtyFred 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      I know we're not supposed to proselytize rp but someone needs to put a few insightful thoughts into this dumb fucks' head before she convinces him to "man up"

                      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      This story sickens me. What a little whore. I thought the kicker was gonna be this guy's boss was the father.

                      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Antidepressants + alcohol + pregnant...lol what the fuck

                      [–]Lenoh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Calling this sackless waste of oxygen a "man"

                      Making some pretty sweeping generalizations there, MaliciousPsychopath. He didn't need a vasectomy; he lost his balls a LONG time ago.

                      [–]HoundDogs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Great write up. I really kind of hope he finds it and reads it. Even if he disagrees it's still good to have your perspective challenged from time to time.

                      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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                      What is this?

                      [–]RedPharaohRising 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      On an unrelated note, I like the way this post is written. Clear, descriptive, and very sharp in terms of noticing the change in tone, etc.

                      [–]musclebound92 2 points3 points  (6 children)

                      Are you putting this man down for his anger and outburst in the small paragraph he wrote?

                      [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (5 children)

                      No, I'm analyzing what he was probably thinking while writing to try and give a more full picture. I like the little angry paragraph and I think its mere existence says something deeply red pill about the whole thing. However, without acknowledging that it's not productive narration, you miss that message.

                      [–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                      There is an inner battle going on in this angry man's life.

                      We all have that battle. Every. Fucking. Day. Can't kill off the anger, and can't let it take over.

                      [–]bidi123 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                      Anger raises the pressure and increases the odds the release valve will give and let some of the steaming truth out.

                      [–]aherne18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      I've read this story before here...

                      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                      Why not just have an abortion? Would have saved her a lot of hassle.

                      [–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                      Because she wanted a baby, and felt she could manipulate husband into raising her alpha spawn.

                      Remember, when a girl decides you're just a provider to her and nothing more, she also feels you're easy to manipulate and under her control.

                      They don't understand the concept of men wanting to self-sacrifice for a "worthy" woman (a common trope in the world - though a stupid one when you look at it through redpill eyes). It isn't, "he is willing to do this because he feels my virtue is so high and feels good about providing", it's, "my status is higher than his so he will do what I want".

                      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      So for point of view, this comment implies that he's probably had the time to calm down before checking the comment thread---which is unfortunate in my opinion.

                      Never react emotionally, thats how women try to get youre vascectomy reversed.

                      Pause, two three, then act. This is how a stoic man acts in his own best interest

                      [–]1mr_nate_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      If I were this guy, I would go full out Pay Back Time: Machiavellian Style.

                      For the next few months, I would show that I'm hurt and pretend to forgive her over time — "for the sake of the marriage." I would sit and wait for a few months, plotting and scheming. Each night I would fall asleep thinking about the end prize to my plan. I'd convince her to keep the child — claiming it's wrong to just end its life in order to appeal to her emotions. Knowing women, and knowing how she's continually seeking drama in her life ("gimme babies" and fucking around) she would definitely keep it. I'd tell her I'll help raise it.

                      Come time to when she can't get an abortion anymore, I'd jump out of bed with a new found excitement! It's time to profit. I would divorce rape her ass so hard, leave her alone with this fucktrophy to suffer until the end of her days. Maybe I'd think about her as I'm sticking my vasectomized balls in some babe's mouth and chuckle to myself.

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