Red Pill TheoryAttention all young and new Red Pillers -- the world doesn't give a fuck about you (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by BramRhodesDouglas

Summary: This is bitter sweet, so here goes the bitter part first. No one gives a fuck about you. Now for the sweet part -- once you realize that no one gives a fuck about you then you are free to give a fuck about you.

Body: Back in my beta days before I found the red pill I used to wander around wasting my time seeking sympathy, empathy, and the concern of people around me. I wanted validation and recognition. I wanted people to understand me and where I was coming from. Fuck, I just wanted to feel special.

Know what I did to get this shit? I would post a Facebook status about some philosophical topic, some book, or a special gain or achievement that I had accomplished. I would talk to people personally about my dreams, interests, and ambitions. In the company of others I would complain about how hard my job was, how difficult grad school could be, or what an arduous time I was having with blah, blah, blah.

I never once got recognition. No pats on the back. No job well done. No keep going, champ. Nothing. Okay maybe I did once in a while, but it always felt hallow and shitty when I did.

After I took the pill I started running across this wonderful teaching -- that the world doesn't give a flying fuck about you and me.

The world doesn't care about men. When our nations go to war who is thrown into the meat grinder to die? Young men like you and me. When your bitch ex sends your ass to court who gets the kids/money/assets/house/etc.? She does. When false rape accusations occur who is always guilty? You, bud. When drama in a relationship goes down whose fault is it always? The man's. If any hardship, trial, tribulation, or tragedy befalls you whose responsibility is it? Yours and yours alone. There is no virtuous man to come and give a helping hand when we go through misery, but there always is for a woman. Society will let all manner of adversity befall you, they will mock you while you go through it, and then berate you if you fail. When the same thing happens to women all of society unites to help them, but not us. Broke? It's your fault. Depressed? Your fault, bud. Is life feeling hard? Tough luck, pal. You are alone. Deal with it.

The truth is, no one cares about me or you. Okay, okay. If you are one of the most lucky people in the world maybe you have a parent or two or maybe some close friend or family member who cares about you but that's it. But here's the thing. If I get hit by a bus tomorrow they will all move on and forget about me. Their lives, families, and careers will take their attention and they'll live life and get along fine without me. Let's say you die tomorrow. So what? No one will care if you never recorded that album, started that new business, wrote that book, launched that new product line, went to that school, or made any of your dreams come true. No one gives a fuck about you.

Feel like complaining about your workload? Guess what no one gives a fuck. LTR giving you pointless drama? Guess what no one gives a fuck. Boss being a ridiculous asshole just for the fun of it? No one gives a fuck. Feel like complaining about something? No one gives a single fuck, bro.

And most importantly of all, women especially do not give a fuck. You will immediately appear weak and pathetic to women if you look for comfort from them. They will despise you as their vag dries up at the sound of your despair. I used to hope and dream of meeting a woman who would understand me and be there for me through thick and thin, "For better or worse," as the marriage vow goes. After all, society tells us that women simply want us to open up and "share our feelings." It's religion-level BS. That's a blue pill fantasy and it'll never come true. Women don't give a fuck about you and they don't want to be your rock. They want YOU to be their rock. They cannot understand that women are born and men are made. They'll never realize all of the pain, struggle, sweat, risk, hunger, courage, blood, sleepless nights, and misery that went into your path to manhood. Most women, especially very attractive women have an extremely simple and easy life. Us? We play this game on hard mode, so go wage war.

I'm saying this for the new guys and especially you younger guys. Get this in your head. No one in the whole world gives a single flying fuck about you. We are nothing but little humans walking around on a blue pixel floating in a limitless sea of stars and darkness. Life is too short to bitch and moan about how shitty society is getting. That's dark and bitter, but its bitterness doesn't save it from being true. Now for the sweet part.

The reason I particularly love this TRP doctrine is that it is SO FREEING.

Once you realize that no one gives a fuck, you'll finally be free to give a fuck about the only thing that matters for the duration of your short time on this planet -- you. This concern about others will all fall off you like some heavy burden you never knew you were carrying. You'll be so much more appreciative of life. You'll have energy you never knew you had because you wasted it caring about what other people thought. And you'll easily invest in yourself like never before.

And guess what. Know what happens when you become the rock? People will lean on you and you'll be able to help those who are worthy. They will come to you for the comfort you once sought from others. The tables will turn like never before.

Lessons learned: Never complain. No one gives a fuck. Never seek validation from others. They don't give a fuck. Women especially don't give a fuck, they don't understand, and they don't really care to understand. Approval seeking is a fool's game. Don't do it. Once you become a rock, people in your circle will start to lean on you. Do what you will with that.

Edit: shortened it because damn that was long!

[–]nivekx 119 points120 points  (13 children)

Thank you, I really needed this today

I found it hard in the beggining to accept reality, to accept that even your closest "friends" don't really care about your personal dramas, sure they can listen for a while but no one really cares.

For the longest time I wanted to find that person, someone who would listen, someone who would make me feel special, someone who cared when I was I was miserable, when I was alone, who appreciated my efforts and praised my small victories, someone who believed in me

And in the end after TRP I found that person...within myself

Great post mate

[–]J_AsapGem 35 points36 points  (3 children)

There is a saying, " in order for people to give a fuck, you must be worth a fuck " that's how it is in society. no one cares for the broken hearted, the weak, sick or low class, it's either you're worth something to care about or you're not.

[–]Chinny4daWinny 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shit, this explains why people care so much about what the Kardashians are up to.

[–]Dronelisk 5 points6 points  (1 child)

An alternative is to be annoying, too not give people other choice but to listen to you, to threaten, manipulate and force others to give a fuck about you.

See the black lives matter movement, for example.

[–]Nothing_Gazes_Back 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think you're misconstruing submission with affection haha. Nobody actually gives a fuck about the idiots touting feminism, black lives matter, or whatever other ideology is currently trending. It's just too dangerous to disagree with them.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (3 children)

I think deep down, the only person capable of understanding and caring about a man's problems is another man. We used to have real gentlemen's clubs. Smoking groups, the local tavern, the freemasons or whatever. There used to be places that were exclusively masculine so men didn't have to worry about holding frame and they could just relax. Where have those gone? Many perished for being "misogynistic." Women invaded the ones they couldn't stamp out. And the hilarious thing is they don't even wonder why men aren't happy cause they don't give a shit about us (that would require them thinking of someone other than themselves.) Only men give a shit about other men, and society has recently tried to tell us that if we care about men we do so at the cost of caring for women making us misogynistic.

If you wanna talk, we're here for you bro. No homo.

[–]fingerthemoon 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Our biology is still basically the same as prehistoric times. In a tribal situation men would care about the state of other men in the tribe because our livelihood depended upon it. Brotherhood was a real thing. Boys challenged themselves and established dominance and social hierarchy before they were old enough to seriously hurt each other. And we still have the reminisce of those times...

Many men today have no brothers to look out for them. I don't. A true lone wolf.

[–]TRP_Werther 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Agreed, if you're a guy who needs to talk about deep shit, you're best consulting a close male friend, they'll listen to you and even offer good advice.

Having said that your value is still top priority, if it falls a close male friend will be there fore a while, but if it keeps dipping you'll get abandoned.

[–]winterequinox007 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's really a sad thing, but that's how the world works. I felt the same way with my friend of many years, but it turns out that he had his own things going on as well, and had no time for my weaknesses. Not complaining, doing what needs to be done, and not showing weakness are the few pre-requisites for being even a decently stoic man. If I expect a little stoicism and agency from others, for them to get the job done and not whine on why they can't or won't do it, why can't I expect it of myself?

There's a Chinese proverb, which states that, "If you rely on a person, eventually the person will age. If you rely on a mountain, the mountain will eventually erode. It is best to rely on ones self."

[–]dreamerinside 3 points3 points [recovered]

In the end, you need to become that person. The one that care about you, and believe in you.

[–]silentao 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Be your own personal jesus

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 45 points46 points  (9 children)

An important element to consider is that no one gives a fuck about you even if you're high value. They only care about your value and what it means to them. People are inherently selfish, subconsciously. People will gravitate towards your high value, and disappear in an instant when you lose it.

There are very rare exceptions to this, family and close friends, but even then not all of them. Learn to take care of number one as your highest priority, because literally no one else in the world does.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

An important element to consider is that no one gives a fuck about you even if you're high value. They only care about your value and what it means to them

Re-posting for emphasis. And to add, if they sense weakness they will step on you to get anything of value you may have. Yes people are that fucked up.

[–]killxorxbexkilled 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And to add, if they sense weakness they will step on you to get anything of value you may have. Yes people are that fucked up.

100% accurate statement. Assuming one is already of high or higher social status - any perception of weakness opens the door to those who wish to take what you have and/or ride your coattails to bolster their own rep.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Absolutely agree, and I want to add that since nobody gives a shit about mens feelings then to succeed one needs to translate those feelings into actions people DO care about

[–]fingerthemoon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Damn true. TRP is like the wise uncle I never had. Teaching men how to be men. No one ever said shit like this to me. I was raised to be a pussy bitch. I wish people could see just how truly valuable this sub is for some men. I think it might have saved my life. No joke.

[–]BramRhodesDouglas[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Well said. It's a lonely road to the top.

[–]Cavsarge 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Couldn't agree more, good to get recalibrated during the festive season.

[–]MonkeyDFreecs 20 points21 points  (0 children)

You should also be careful in caring about others, if someone is not reciprocating in you caring for them and they don't show any care for you, stop it.

Showing empathy and respect for someone who doesn't give it back doesn't make you a victim, it makes you an idiot.

[–]heatyourpipe 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Feel like complaining about something? No one gives a single fuck, bro. And most importantly of all, women especially do not give a fuck.

We say here that LTR's are RP on hard mode for a reason.

Last night we were out having a drink at the bar. I've been a little frustrated at work and she asked me how that was going, and I needed to vent.

So I began to rant about this, about that. After about a minute I took a careful look at her face, and I could just tell she does not give a single fuck. And remembered that outside of maybe 1 or 2 people, NO ONE gives a fuck about my problems. So I quickly disengaged and changed the subject.

It is exhausting to have to remind yourself to keep frame and be cool at ALL times.

[–]1htbf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is exhausting to have to remind yourself to keep frame and be cool at ALL times.

It's true. I just tell to myself that I don't need the advice of anyone anyway when it comes to my personal issues and struggles. I'm bright enough that I can figure out my own solutions. Heck I'm bright enough to I figure out solutions for other peoples problems.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Fuck dude this sub gets me pumped. Puts on war paint.

Now where the fuck is my pre-workout...

[–]BetterBadIdeas 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The fact that you live in an apathetic universe can be about the most liberating realization out there, because you see that, no, the social contract is not backed by any genuine caring. It's the grease that keeps society moving smoothly, and as such can be manipulated. You don't have to care, you just have to pretend to care, which is infinitely more flexible.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Anyone who wants to cement this reality, I really recommend watching fight club. It gave the last push to remove any idea of me being special, without having to get fucked over first. The concept of knowing that if you disappeared tomorrow, no one would give much of a fuck after a couple of years sets you free. Seeing shit as it is really liberates you, you can stop worrying and start living.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (14 children)

I would also like to include parents under this. People think that parents are there for you always, and will love you forever no matter what. This is not true, and having experienced this personally, I can say that if you fuck up enough times, or too big, even your parents will disown you. Maybe not literally, but disown nevertheless.

They're just more tolerant of your fuckups than others, but even their love isn't unconditional.

Like Vin Diesel says in XXX: "It's every motherfucker for himself."

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (9 children)


What is this?

[–]Shady-mofo 1 point2 points  (7 children)

We should form an alliance kamino haha

[–]shineoneme 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We definitely should. Count me in, bhai

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)


Most indian guys are rather clueless when it comes to dating, specially outside of metros. Us guys can use TRP to better ourselves and our relationships with women.

Indian society is changing fast and becoming like western society. As a 20 year old guy I see the world around me and it shocks me how many of the things said on TRP are true, even for our society which is considered conservative. AF/BB is something I'm seeing in action around myself a lot.

Lets have a sub where we can discuss india-specific things from a TRP lens. What say /u/videogameguy420 and other indian folk on this sub?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)


What is this?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was thinking more like an indian version of asktrp

We don't need separate Indian TRP theory, but surely a sub where perspectives can be discussed from an Indian POV is useful isnt it?

[–]Shady-mofo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We surely can but it's futile, I doubt there are enough experienced Indian rp guys, if any to discuss the strategies.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Depends on culture a lot, I think you just got unlucky. I hope you remember how you feel if you become a parent and be the parent you wish you had.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Heh, funny you should say that, as I'm from India, which is big on family and parent-child relationship.

Howeveer, when I failed to make it to a good engineering college after high school, the disappointment from my parents was very real. Nothing against them though, it was 100% my own fault.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are the sum of the 5 people you spend the most time with - I used to be really annoyed that I wasn't smart enough to continue onto a PhD program at the uni I attended. Once I left uni and got a job, I never thought of doing a PhD again!

[–]dkjfk295829 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not black and white mate. Just because your father doesn't ride in to save you if punch someone at a bar doesn't mean its "every motherfucker for himself". Many successful people attribute a lot of their success to their parents sticking with them and supporting them.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 15 points16 points  (0 children)

One either manipulates the world or the world manipulates you.

One is either the master or the slave.

One is either Red Pill or Blue Pill.

Kill the Beta that is the slave inside you that needs validation.

Game is manipulation... the bending of reality.


[–]Physio_Tool 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I may be downvoted for this but this is the value in religion. God cares about you and loves you. That is the only thing that will be with you your whole life. Your mother and father (the only ones who truly love you) will die and you will be left with no one who loves you but God. You can act like you don't need love which will cause you to unconsciously seek it out in women, friends, pets, while never truly experiencing what you had from your parents, or you can get it from God, be fulfilled, and not need it from anyone else.

[–]1IamGale 5 points6 points  (12 children)

Man I'm still pissed off about this. I'm trying to start a business and no one gives a flying fuck about it. It's like your just shooting in the dark doing pointless shit and you never know what's going to work.

I'm not really enjoying the process... Which will make this business hard to sustain. I'm just ranting but I feel lost about all this stuff.

[–]BramRhodesDouglas[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

There's probably only one place in the world that would listen to you bitch and moan about it. Here! Write the most angry pissed off post ever and post it here. We'll listen. Just put that rant tag on it. It helps getting that shit off your chest.

[–]Money_Bags97 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And we still won't give a shit! Just joking. But yeah, this is the kind of place more young men need, to be able to talk with other men who have been through the same hardships.

[–]Frigzy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I believe I'm in a very similar place right now. However I'm starting to realize that my worry about others not caring stems from the fact that my self-esteem is damaged, which goes way deeper than my business plans. Sadly it's far from unrelated since I won't be able to keep it up if I feel like shit.

Here's the theory: because I do not seem to love me for being me and do not love doing me for the sake of doing my own thing, I seem to be feeling a constant emotional void. An unfulfillable hole in my self esteem. Apparently I have conditioned myself to think that I can, or rather, need to fill this gap with external validation. Obviously this is impossible. Only I can love being myself for being myself. Nobody else will ever be able to change that, positively or negatively.

I've lived most of my life trying to please others. I realized this years ago, but I don't think I've ever fully come to terms with what it actually meant and what kind of emotional damage it caused. I guess the "this does not affect me"-bias is still strong in me... Slowly but surely, I'm working my way out of this mess though.

Amazing how I managed to make this reply all about myself, but your message resonated with me and I just had this personal epiphany a couple of hours ago. The subject of not giving a shit about others and the fact that others return that sentiment was probably a catalyst for it.

What kind of business are you starting, and why?

[–]1IamGale 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm starting an e-commerce business because my brother proposed and financed the opportunity and I really wanted to get into business.

I totally relate with what you're saying. I usually feel the worst when I only think about myself. Definitely had some major self-esteem issues which is why I had trouble making and hanging out with friends when I was young.

I've lived most of my life trying to please others. I realized this years ago, but I don't think I've ever fully come to terms with what it actually meant and what kind of emotional damage it caused.

Yea, I feel you. I feel like sometimes I live to impress random people I don't even know. That's why I was into film and making movies in University so I could be popular and famous. Then I wake up one day and I have no idea what I'm really interested in because I've never listened to myself. I've always done things "to look cool."

Business is a great personal development outlet. You really uncover yourself during promotions. You need to love your product like you woud love yourself. And if you don't love yourself you're going to have problems, hence the problems I have now. I take it one day at a time. And try to enjoy my own journey of figuring it out.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

This knowledge is just as applicable in business. People only care about what you can do for them. WIIFM - what's in it for me? You don't need their opinion, you need their money. I totally understand though. You'll get the last laugh, just keep that image in your head when it gets tough.

[–]1IamGale 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yea I know, patience is such a difficult virtue when you're me. Lately, I've been horny as hell wishing I had some ass. But that's not happened yet so I remind myself patience.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea it's just a way to re-frame the situation.. I knew it wouldn't be new information. I'm in the same boat gotta get some... hah.

[–]blacwidonsfw 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Good luck Man.

If you need advice on online advertising/technical website/data stuff feel free to connect. I would love to hear the problems you are facing as a small business as well. I am looking to do that myself in a couple years and will take all the perspective I can get.

[–]1IamGale 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm in ecommerce, and the biggest problem is running and testing different marketing experiments.

I'm selling men's pocket squares and all my sales come from ads at the moment. It'd be so much easier if I had a system to schedule and do all blog outreach, ppc campaigns, facebook ads, fliers, etc and knowing which one will be the most effective. And track all the results to give myself data to see what works. But nothing I do is statistically significant at early stages so I'm stuck in the dark.

In the end, the hardest part is really knowing how to advertise effectively...

[–]blacwidonsfw 0 points1 point  (1 child)

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[–]1IamGale 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks dude. I love data and marketing!

[–]luckinator 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The world doesn't give a fuck about old red pillers, either. Generally speaking, the world doesn't give a fuck about anyone.

[–]lost_lurker 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I used to be that super pessimistic aloof tortured soul who only talked about "deep" things. Underneath all of that I was really just looking for validation and in women I was looking for someone to mommy me instead of having a healthy relationship. It took a while and I'm not all the way there yet but I've finally accepted that ppl don't give a fuck about other ppl outside of their immediate circle. Which at first was really depressing but now it feels great, I no longer agonize about what ppl think about me, I'm not looking for an unhealthy relationship and I put my needs first. Nihilism is the shit.

[–]banditkrish 7 points8 points  (1 child)

most liberating advice ever that really helped my life. had a xanax addiction that was really fucking up my life-all that was being shoved into my face was "do it for me" and "i cant take it when you're like this". guess what - i never quit until i decided i needed to quit so MY life gets better. that mentality trickled onto other aspects of my life and I've never been happier.

my resources and time belong to me. i will use them to make MY life better (and that may sometimes include helping others). but i will never do something for someone to earn their respect or validation, only mine.

great post OP

[–]blacwidonsfw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are all one decision away from completely different life experiences.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Nihilism is pretty freeing too. There is no inherent value or meaning to life other than what you assign it. Embrace the abyss.

[–]BramRhodesDouglas[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Haha that's exactly what this is about.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a nihilist I saw some simularites in your post with my everyday thinking about things in general. lol

[–]IndianGainzDance 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Us? We play this game on hard mode, so go wage war.

This got me fired up as fuck. Great post.

[–]JoshAndArielle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Truth. I like to think my dog is the only creature in this fucked up world that genuinely cares about me.

[–]1mrthrowaway413[🍰] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Good post, we need more shit for the younger generation. We're all new and still learning. Thanks.

[–]voomer53 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The Earth is just a blue pixel..good analogy.

[–]notgivefuck 0 points1 point  (1 child)

pointless analogy, there's so much substance here you would be ignorant to just call this a pixel. in the grander scheme of things we are part of a small dot, but in reality there's so much to experience with our five senses that you could never be bored if you wanted.

[–]solemaster 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Pure excellence - thank you

[–]killsyou123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Saving this for future reality checks

[–]fingerthemoon 1 point2 points  (3 children)

On my drive home today I saw a middle aged man walking along my country road with a tent and a few bags slewn over a bicycle. Obviously homeless and on his way to camp in the woods.

It made me think about how no one gives a flying fuck about men but a woman in that situation would be rescued. Then I read this post.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Did you care about him either? Weve met the enemy and he is us. Part of being in the MR sphere is you dont have to follow societies rules anymore. What good are they for anyone here?

[–]fingerthemoon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm trying not to care. DGAF doesn't come to me that easily. I have way too much empathy and compassion. My first instinct was to stop and offer to take him home and cook him a meal, but then TRP kicked in and I ran him off the road, honked my horn and yelled LOSER!!!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If youre not a top 20% male were all losers.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You hit the nail on the head. No one gives one single fuck, and my approach since adopting TRP is that 'the less you give a fuck, the more you win.'

And as /u/Cyralea said, no one cares about you as a person if you do have value and status, all they care about is what they can get out of you... Have a yacht? Fantastic! When can I go for a holiday on it? Have a house in some city? Great! I'll have to come visit. No. One. Gives. A. Fuck. Once you realise that, you're free to do what ever the fuck you want. What I've learnt is that it's okay to be selfish. Everyone else is ;)

As a side note, I think this post to be sidebar worthy as a nice little introduction to ones new found freedom and the realisation that you're alone in this big bad world. It's up to you to decide if you swallow the red pill or the blue pill.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The only time people care about you when you're a man is when you provide value to them.

Once you stop creating value that others can derive from your being, no one will give a fuck about you once again.

[–]FaustoRMD 2 points3 points  (6 children)

You Americans are cold as fuck. I have a group of friends that have been on my side always and I have been there for them. Hell, I would kill for them without hesitation. Reading the comments in this thread mad me feel sad for you...

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

America is broken. The land of the feminist and the obese. Its good if you are a woman, OG MGTOW, or a top 20% male. Everyone else it kinda blows.

[–]dkjfk295829 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Oh, I'm sure your life is so damn tough.

[–]Thoaway69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm born with no brothers, 3 female family members. Dad's not in the picture. I had to learn it all in my own. It's not a sob story. It's my story. And that's it. Lessons were learned and knowledge is applied. And when we come to conclusions as such. It's not cause we are cold. It's because who we are.

[–]BramRhodesDouglas[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no idea why you'd feel that way.

[–]Redpillc0re 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want to be really free , you shouldn't want the world to give a fuck about you.

[–]tommydrama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great post, one of the best things I learned here on my quest on becoming a man.

[–]rpscrote 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Realize the opposite side of this coin holds true: if you validate and pat on the back to thirsty desperate beta men from a position of respect in a way that seems sincere and makes them feel good, they will like you and respect you more. Break your own beta habit but realize most others have not yet done so and this is an important component of charisma.

caveat: if you do any of this from a position of subordination and not of leadership, it is sucking up/groveling and beta, thus you should avoid it in that context.

[–]zigg-_-zagg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nobody gives a fuck about you , you can only give a fuck about yourself .

This is what motivates me every fucking day!

[–]HS-Thompson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am what you'd probably call a natural alpha, did well with women and money and business and was generally a leader in a social context. Except I didn't understand the advice in this post, and it ruined my fucking life completely. I lost my money, my friends, my health, and my family as I bashed my head against the wall repeatedly not learning that nobody gives a flying fuck about me and my problems.

I sure as hell get it now.

If there's literally one lesson to be learned from TRP this is it. It is the core of learning what it means to be a man.

You're on your own motherfucker, get a fucking helmet.

[–]nicechallenge 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Last week I went out to a house party with a friend from high school, after the party we were talking in the car and this topic came to my mind(nihilism and such). I used to deal with depression from the fact that life was totally meaningless but now as you said this is the most liberating fact one can experience. My friend told me that he was afraid of the thought that nothing matters and no one gives a fuck about you but I tell him well at least I'm completely free now and it feels awesome, nobody dictates how I need to live my life, for the first time I'm free to chase whatever I want in the couple of decades I have in this planet. Nihilism can be a bitch but you need to understand the positive part about it in order to overcome it. Thanks for the post OP really good content.

[–]Frigzy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's like most things in our brief existence really. You can use it to your advantage, or you can cry about it. It's up to you.

[–]nicechallenge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah like Nietzsche said the character of the individual will determine if he becomes an ubersmench or if he will self-destruct.

[–]Muddpup64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for posting this. I really needed that today and sometimes I need that reminder.

[–]billythebeta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Men are disposable, so the only way to make your situation any better is to increase your own station in life. When you have power with a good body, a good mind, and a good career, suddenly the world values you just a little but more in that you have something to offer to them now.

[–]Frigzy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great post. Nobody gives a shit about you. Only you can do that, and it is only when you become amazing at giving shits about yourself, others will notice. Not because they care about you, but because deep down they feel they have something to gain by connecting with you.

[–]throwzaway3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was going through a tough time with my company once, and I was obsessed with my student loans.....down in the dumps in general. Then I had a business coach say the phrase to me:

"There's no one comin' to save you."

Perhaps those words don't mean much to many but they were said to me at the exact moment of my life that I needed to hear them. They changed the way I think about the world and my life all together. From that point I began to understand, truly, the concept of self reliance, personal responsibility, and why the phrase "If you want something done right, do it yourself" is so important.

[–]sweatyandready 0 points1 point  (1 child)

women are born and men are made. is this an original quote? just curious

[–]BramRhodesDouglas[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a common manosphere truism but I read it first from The Illimitable Man. Not sure if he was the first to put it that way or not.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you make it in life, NEVER FORGET how you were disposable to society. NEVER FORGET how you were treated when you weren't king of the hill. Take what you want/can and fuck the rest. This life is about YOU.

[–]BlueFreedom420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bitter truth that leads to sweet revenge.

[–]techemilio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a topic that took me a while to grasp, after I accepted it I was able to live free no fucks given. Im more of a man for this and im treated with much more respect when I carry my own weight without bitching or complaining

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have to be contrarian to this post. First of all, OP and everyone else are projecting big time. If you treat people like they won't give a fuck about you, they won't. People behave as you treat them. Secondly, I'm sure all of you have met people who actually cared about you without hidden agendas and now you're rationalizing away that to fit your point / worldview.

I don't know how many times in the past I've talked to guys who were blue pill or otherwise stuck in a false mindset about something, trying to help them see the truth. And as I've grown older I look back and see how other men did the same to me. Also I see all the bad advice people insisted on, not because they cared about me, but because they wanted to protect themselves with plausible deniability by saying the kosher thing.

The world is not so black and white that most of you here truly can say nobody gave a fuck about you. Maybe you were so dense and stubborn that they had to give up?

With that said, yes, most people don't give a fuck. Cherish those who do truly.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know that the mere mention of the Star Wars Expanded Universe here will earn me a beta badge, but redpill philosophy is some Sith Lord shit for sure. In the book Darth Bane: Path of Destruction, Bane doesn't turn to the dark side because he is evil, mean, sadistic, etc. He does it because when it comes down to it you can only rely on yourself, and therefore the pursuit of power/perfection is the only logical course once you have had the realization that no one will help you, and most can't help you even if they wanted.

[–]ravyn4179 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hi, I'm new to this subreddit (like I found a link to TRP in another post and was curious and started reading the top posts.) I am also a female. I just subscribed to this sub so that I could reply to this (I was just going to remain a lurker).

Thank you for this. I know it's aimed at men to lend support, but you have no idea how much I needed to hear this at this moment. I am struggling in my job right now because I do not receive validation from my boss and she (female dominated career) does not support me. I like this job. I am scared to get another job because I feel like I will be pushed into a clerical job and be stuck without much advancement. I'm scared I won't be good enough or smart enough.

My SO keeps telling me to not give a shit what others think of me and I will be happier, but it's hard for me. I need support and validation to feel worthwhile. Your post echoing his advice makes me really want to not give a shit anymore.

If you will all allow, I'd like to keep on lurking and finding advice like this to help me in my own life. Help me TRP, you're my only hope.

[–]BramRhodesDouglas[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Go to the redpill women subreddit.

[–]GroundhogLiberator 1 points1 points [recovered]

Accepting the fact that no one really cares about you is painful. People only care about your problems if they themselves stand to lose somehow. I've been on both sides of the equation.

I was seeing a girl for about six months and things didn't work out. A few weeks later I messaged a girl I had met on tinder several months earlier. She seemed happy to hear from me (responded in thirty seconds each time) and asked if I was still seeing the girl I had recently ended things with. I told her that I wasn't, and she asked me what happened.

I actually told her.

Cue radio silence. It took me about ten minutes to realize how badly I had fucked up. I've spoken to her a few times since then, but we haven't slept together, believe it or not. It's hilarious in hindsight. I didn't miss out on much but I learned a very important lesson. I'll never make that mistake again.

I've also been the guy who stopped giving a shit. I have a friend who's been depressed for 6+ years at this point. I've been his confidant for that period. I only try to help him because I know him forever, but there are occasions where I don't even reply to his texts. My life is far from perfect and I have my own crap to deal with. I cared about his problems for a long time, but it's just tiring. I've shown him this sub and he has made some improvements. I think It cured his most recent oneitis at least.

[–]BramRhodesDouglas[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shit like this shocked me. It happened to me too though. Haha

[–]LicksMackenzie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

think of them as a hivemind. Women I think have a sort of extra level of social detection because they evolved it because they needed it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)


What is this?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Great post, Seems like society only cares that you conform and swallow the blue pills.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (8 children)

No one gives a fuck about you, UNLESS you're a fit handsome dude! There is a saying that beautiful people tend to have it easier in life. I'm no brad pitt but I'm kind of a handsome dude. When I worked in a restaurant in my younger years I used talk to all the girls more like they would talk to me about the most random shit ever. One time I got into an argument with a cook, just silly shit but the girls waiters, hostes over heard him saying how he was going to stap me to another cook, the girls told on him to the manager and told me to be careful when I go home. He was playing of course but the girls took it literal. Also had plenty of the girls give me rides home etc! Had a female teacher in college that passed me on exams that I failed lolz! Had female managers do my job basically! It's not all bad if people like you and by that I mean you're a handsome dude!

[–]BramRhodesDouglas[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

They don't really care about you. They care about the good feelings your game and looks can provide them. If you become hideous looking in some car wreck or house fire they will all ignore you. Keep providing value to keep people around.

[–]Kingmekev678 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point. It's like my exterior is just an artificial boost.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Does your point actually mean anything? Isn't his good looks and his game him? The real him? If it's not him, then who are they?

[–]BramRhodesDouglas[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all this is about looks. Game is obviously there because looks are latent unless game is used to show it off. I have no idea if this guy has standalone game. My point is simply this -- what happens when he loses his looks? Will all these people stick around? I personally don't believe I am my attractive looks. One day I'll get old and ugly but I'll still be Bram.

[–]J_AsapGem -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

you lucky bastard! only thing i was blessed with is a big ass head and dick :/

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Doesn't matter how alpha someone is or good lucking, eventually you'll get burned by a women. I was never alpha, that's why I'm here, been burned plenty of times mate, plenty of times! I had girls and guys both try to fuck with me just because i seem confident, I'm not that confident! Apparently when you don't give a fuck about people they think it's confidence, i mainly keep to myself.

[–]J_AsapGem 0 points1 point  (1 child)

i know this, was being sarcistic, working on my confidence aswell

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If youve assimilated the sidebar material and you have common sense and a plan in life, you are already better than 75% of the people in the US. Not necessarily higher SMV but better.

[–]drummmmergeorge -4 points-3 points  (6 children)

Invest in Japanese woman. they're sexy and loyal.

[–]Algernoq 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Found the weeaboo degenerate.

[–]drummmmergeorge -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I've dated some of them in college, they're sexy. White trash is too easy. Went to their country few months ago. Girls there are fuego. Looking to bust a nut in SK this summer.

[–]BramRhodesDouglas[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Women have no perceptual basis of rationality to grasp a masculine abstract like loyalty. Forget about it.

[–]KnowBrainer -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

If you don't give a fuck about us, then why would you write such a long advice column for us? Your article is contradicted by its own existence...

[–]BramRhodesDouglas[S] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Yep... You caught me, KnowBrainer. I'm actually your dad and I love you very much. Now go make daddy proud and bang some hot sluts;)

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Wow OP I feel bad for you. Sounds like you have some shitty people in your life. Or maybe you just used to complain a lot and people just got tired of listening to YOUR shit. Whatever , in my life I surround myself with people I care about and people that care about me and i feel blessed.