Red Pill TheoryBasics of Game (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by thickskinnedwhiteass

TL;DR: The basics of inner/outer game shelled out in a bullet format that I have picked up from various sources. This comes in handy for me for when the information on-line seems overwhelming. Its good to know the basics.

(Note: the information here has been culled from various sources and I do not in any way want to give the intention that this is the result of my own analysis. I cant really give credits as i copy whatever rings true for me and keep it for later reading.)


• It is always upon YOU to approach. The role of the male is to act. If you see any indicators of interest, you HAVE to approach. It doesn’t matter how the interaction goes. All that matters is whether you have the cojones to walk up and say hi. Don’t mind the awkwardness which might follow. For how the conversation might turn out is not an indicator as to whether the girl is interested or not.

• Women don’t mean what they say because they themselves don’t know what they mean. Don’t take what a woman says as true. Watch her actions and not her words. She may appear to be cold in the interaction but inside she might be getting the silk drenched. Maintain frame.

• Assume attraction. Assume higher value. Your basic frame has to be that “YOU ARE THE PRIZE”.

• Treat women as children. As cheeky little misbehaving children.

• Women cannot love men like men expect to be loved. A women’s love cannot be unconditional. It is conditional and depends upon the safety and security a man can provide her. This is their very nature in its true essence. It is pointless to throw blame for this is who they are deep inside and all hate toward such a nature is futile at best. ACCEPT THEM. Wholly. They are hypergamous by nature – a cave woman did not succumb to a cave man because she fell in love with him. She fell in ‘love’ as a result of the security and safety he provided her and the protection against the other men in the group. Ever since then the nature of women has been the same. Their hypergamy, consciously or unconsciously, prompts them to seek safer and more viable options. In today’s date such options are influenced to a maximum degree by MOOLAH and Social Connections. ACCEPT THIS. There is no point being hateful. All this means is that you as MEN have to be your best self. You have to be strong and know that virtually every second you are in a competition for her love. That is the price you pay for her. That is how boys become MEN. Don’t hate them for something which has been so deeply ingrained in her that it lies completely out of her control.


  1. When you use push/pull, you will usually play the opposite of her mood. Pull when you need to draw her back in, but push when she’s attracted. Compliments are pulls. Make sure you only give compliments that she has genuinely earned. Going further will seem try-hard and insincere. After 5 minutes, it can make sense to tell her how fun and easy she is to talk to, but it wouldn’t make sense to tell her what an amazing person she is.

  2. Teases are pushes. Unless you’re advanced, don’t tease anything very specific to her. For example, you can tease her for being from a farm town (which would apply to a large amount of the population). But don’t tease her that her eyes are slightly uneven; that’s too specific to her. If she gets too butthurt about the teases (push) – tell her you give good massages (Pull). (Note: the above only applies girls that you are interested in. For others, it does not matter. Just be sweet and nice and yourself. DGAF.)


These are the things which would have to be done consistently in order to make the best gains and become the best version of yourself:

i) Talk to everyone you see. Make small talk or talk deep shit. But make this a fucking HABIT. You have to talk to everyone you see, no matter how big or small they might be.

ii) Work Out. Without fail. 5 days a week.

iii) PMO – Might get hate for this one but this is basically no-fap. I used to have major difficulties in the sack but this has completely cured me. The science behind it is pretty strong.

iv) Read every day.

v) Awareness. Be aware of your surroundings and your inner turmoil/happiness. This is like constant meditation. You need to develop this awareness in all situations and interactions.

(Google this for a better understanding - The Great List of Non-Negotiables by /u/JugglingSoManyThings)

Lessons learned: All of the above.

[–]OrangeCub 36 points37 points  (1 child)

One thing is missing: a gaming mindset. It's playing a GAME, which presupposes it's fun and random. It's not putting in WORK, which not only objectifies the woman but also puts stress on you as having to always be performing.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

talking to beautiful women is indeed fun.

[–]2PragmaticRedTruth 153 points154 points  (11 children)

You've kind of just throw together some details about game almost in a hurry. I always find posts like this low to the ground instead of reaching for the sky. It is very good information for beginners, don't get me wrong, and nothing you said is incorrect.

But something that needs to be added to this is:

It needs to be known that all of these things will come as you develop your lifestyle. Don't spend time focusing on the little details, you'll sell yourself short and spin in circles. That's what the PUA's spent so much time doing. Grow as a person and embrace your life and all of the little details will come together. In other words, never make any part of this a focus. If you want to play in the big leagues and really make this stuff work for you, you must develop and love your own life first and foremost. That should always be your priority. The little inner workings of game and frame come in time, not over night.

Let's face it, we all made it to the Manosphere one way or another because something was lacking within us. Just ensure you seek out and correct that chunk of the puzzle whilst you implement game and frame into your life and kill the beta within; you'll change into something remarkable if you can find the right balance.

[–]laere 28 points29 points  (4 children)

Once I found my passion I actually noticed I came off more aloof because I needed every second to focus on those goals. It's amazing how it comes naturally when you are passionate and goal oriented about something.

[–]_the_shape_ 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Yes, and when you have this settled, you automatically develop 'abundance mentality'.

Even if there isn't another piece of ass waiting in the wings, there will be another down the line, and however long that may be is of microscopic importance, because you have your purpose in life, and really, that is the only 'woman' that deserves your all.

[–]laere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[–]ShounenEgo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Finding a passion can take quite a while for some of us, though.

[–]laere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. I have been there.

[–]makethemflaunt 19 points20 points  (1 child)


It is always upon YOU to approach. The role of the male is to act.

Having a great lifestyle, having meaningful goals that you are duly achieving is great and most important. But when you're approaching and leading a social interaction, it makes sense that we ought to learn HOW to lead a social interaction. Lifting weights and making money doesn't teach you how to manipulate the mood of a conversation and make it enjoyable for you and others. Many people come here as social retards and I see very little being done to address a scientific improvement of their social skills.


For strength and physique building, nothing matters if you don't go and lift.

For social skills, nothing matters if you don't go out and socialize.

But it's helpful if someone gives you some tips on HOW to lift weights and what to keep in mind when you're lifting weights.

Same for social interactions IMO.

[–]2PragmaticRedTruth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't disagree, but once again, it's all built in. Creating a fulfilling lifestyle will give you things to talk about in social settings. It will also give you the charisma and confidence to take an interaction wherever you'd like to. Social interaction are best learned by doing. When you develop a fulfilling lifestyle, you surround yourself with people. At school, work, and during hobbies or things you enjoy.

If you are incompetent when it comes to social interactions, you read "How To Win Friends and Influence People" and apply it as you build this lifestyle.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I agree, its an ok post, but its discussing the leaves and the branches.

Whats missing is the trunk: A moonshot goal around which your entire life revolves... without it you're just a con artist.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Will I know for sure when I find this? Will it always excite me 24/7? Or will it be a dominating interest which is simply above all others and produces income, however it is not exactly fun or exciting.

[–]Stythe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is key. You can say "build self awareness" but that doesn't mean anything? Self awareness of what? You have to be looking for something to be aware of it. If you aren't looking, you can't know you don't have it. Take lifting. People here say lift all the time to build discipline and muscle for determination and attractiveness. If we didn't know these things were important for focus and being healthy/ attractive to women, Wed have no idea why they mattered and not bother with them. Until you start lifting though, you can't see the benefits.

That's why it's so important to decide what you want right now and go for it. Even if it turns out to be the wrong thing, at least you've narrowed your path by process if elimination

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[–]1PrinceofSpades 26 points27 points  (19 children)

Porn, Masturbation, Orgasm.

Give up all 3 and you'll quickly remove the veil that porn draped over your eyes, lower your standards to your own actual SMV, and gain the ability necessity to start talking to women, because they will be your only outlet left for getting off. Now you may fear you'll come off as desperate or creepy, but the reality is often that you'll be more naturally friendly and confident than ever before.

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[–]1PrinceofSpades 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's only a personal problem if it is preventing any man from actively going out and seeking sex instead. I went full no fap for just over a month once about 3-4 years ago and it did wonders for overcoming my fear of talking to women. Never had to do it again since. For me personally nowadays, I basically plow plates when I have the time, and jerk off quickly when I don't.

That being said, again, this really only applies to men who are just learning the basics of game because they struggle with women, and for those men, understanding that they aren't at an SMV of banging pornstar make-up level looking women yet is important. An easy way to lower your own standards is simply force yourself to release using women only. You'd be surprised how quick seduction newbies will go from making excuses to plowing the 3-6 range. This is why I made the porn veil comment.

After all, thanks to growing up with the Internet, and thus porn, I've seen more naked women than all of my ancestors combined. Let that really sink in for a minute. It certainly impacts one's human nature.

[–]TheMGhandi 10 points11 points  (11 children)

It's always people who think they have no issues with porn, and say others do, that lie to themselves.

In real life, if you're in your friends room and he decides to pump his gf what would you do? Chances are you'd high-five him and walk out. What porn is suggesting we do is stay and watch, whilst masturbating to a man fucking a woman. Whether you like it or not, it's fucking you up.

[–]Philhelm 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I prefer to masturbate to a woman being fucked by a Golden Retriever.

[–]Purecorrupt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This can also happen from watching too much porn.

/not sarcasm

[–]WalterEArmstrong 1 point2 points  (8 children)

"Whether you like it or not, it's fucking you up." And there's scientific data to back that up.

[–]TheMGhandi -3 points-2 points  (7 children)

Interesting. 3 hours after my comment, I get 2 that are in the span of 3 minutes. It's too convenient that both happen to be sarcastic and somewhat witty to my entertainment preferences.

And yes, there is scientific data to back up my claims. If searching google was one of your strengths, you'd easily find pages of why they my "claims" are true. Now that that is out of the way, let's focus on you, shall we?

I'm rather concerned that you would ever watch a golden retriever banging the lights out of a woman. The implications are rather serious! For starters, you could compare penis sizes and find yours lacking, which is probably why you need 2 accounts to defend yourself. I don't blame you in this regard. Another reason could be that the dog's hair is blonde, and unless you have natural blonde hair, it will cause you to dye it in the hopes you can achieve the "hot woman".

The remedy for this is the same for everyone, temporary abstinence. Avoid all types of sexual triggers until you feel cleansed from being attracted to a dog fucking a woman, which is not gay by the way. When that day arrives, you will seek enlightenment in the hopes to never require this stimulation again. In order to receive it properly, you will need to get on your knees with your hands in the air. Then and only then, will you be worthy of accepting all the warmth that comes with the glorious light.

Edit: 2 immediate downvotes...I wonder if you're going to make several more accounts so you can 'get' me. Lol

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[–]TheMGhandi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Your response is perfect for any scenario where you want to gain power in the interaction, and perhaps end it immediately with the low skilled opponent.

I'm practicing something different. Verbal destruction leaves one with no leg to stand on and strips all of their intellectual power. If you're tall and know how to fight, then physical power is removed and often the opponent is left with nothing. Obviously, it should be used sparingly, and only towards those who truly annoy you.

Just imagine the power you'd have over people if you can, on demand, make them feel like absolute garbage. I believe this is what the Dark Triad is about to some degree. Tyrion Lannister verbally raping Joffrey is a great example if you want to see one Season 4 episode 2.

[–]Izarst 2 points3 points  (0 children)

..."It's too convenient that both happen to be sarcastic and somewhat witty to my entertainment preferences...If searching google was one of your strengths, you'd easily find pages of why they my "claims" are true."

How about you link straight to the studies? Thanks.

[–]2PragmaticRedTruth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read the sidebar and kill the beta, you're way too invested in people's opinions. If this is how you're reacting over the internet, I couldn't imagine someone really dissing you in person.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Watch your brain on porn, I don't necessarily recommend Nofap in its entirely, but cut the porn and focus on your life

[–]laere 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I broke a 43 day streak recently. I can say I did notice a difference in my demeanor. I kept myself so busy that I wouldn't even remember what masturbation was, or what porn was. I stuck to fapping once a week, but it wasn't an intentional fap. It was whenever I felt like I needed that release.

I felt ever more relaxed in general, was indifferent towards sex, and was hugely motivated to pursue goals.

[–]StupidStrong 29 points30 points  (2 children)

It's not all PUSH and PULL. Don't skip leg day.

[–]MarauderFH 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Squats are push. Deadlifts are pull.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 55 points56 points  (3 children)

This is a really great summary of Game basics.

I fault myself as one here who goes a little too far into the abstract theory about how Game is really part of much more than just the male-to-female interaction, but there are also those that actually want to dive deeper into the topic.

At bottom you "Play" a "Game" with women where you bend her world to your favor and establish yourself as her master.

Frame is simply your mental "protected zone" which you preserve so as to have confidence.

Game is offense, Frame is defense.

Abundance Mentality is that in Game you might lose and don't care, but in Frame you must never lose.

Amused Mastery is when everything works great and it feels like fun.


[–]makethemflaunt 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Abundance Mentality is that in Game you might lose and don't care, but in Frame you must never lose.

I like that. I like that a lot.

[–]ASAP_Bickle 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Game is offense, Frame is defense.

Bingo. Frame is your default headspace which, when built up to such a level through meditation and introspection, is absolutely consistent all the time, whether you're alone, with friends or family, or hitting on a chick. Frame is to be separate from emotions, which fluctuate; thus, you can appear to act the same all day no matter how crappy or tired you are feeling.

Game is when you extend out of your headspace in interactions with other people, with the intention of pulling them into your frame. A&A, push and pull, they're all methods of shattering a woman's headspace by overloading her emotional circuits ("he's being nice, now he's pushing me away, but then he danced with me, but then he got with another girl!?").

When game runs smoothly, the transition of the woman's headspace to your own is easy, and you can achieve the lay with a solid close. Usually it won't be so easy, maybe your girl will play hard to get, maybe a bitch will mother-hen the group you're chatting to, maybe it'll be LMR. In any case, retreat in your attempt to convert her headspace back into your own frame, occupy your own headspace for a while, just interact with her normally, then resume the manipulation.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, so we get it... what more can we say to get everyone else to understand?

(you need not answer... I'm just confirming your response)

[–]xray777 10 points10 points [recovered]

PLENTY of women freeze-up and freak out when engaged by a man they perceive as high value. Just because the conversation is awkward and she seems uncomfortable doesn't mean she isn't tingling like crazy and trying to stop from imagining you fucking her because she's afraid it will show on her face it makes her feel so much so fast.

If she's not actively trying to disengage or acting extremely bored, keep going. Shit testing is better than polite responses with very GO AWAY body language.

[–]LazyMagus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's really encouraging to read.

[–]GC0W30 8 points9 points  (11 children)

Work Out. Without fail. 5 days a week.

Can someone in the community advise me how to make 5 days a week work?

When I played ball, coach had us on weights every other day and daily cardio.

Do you mean cardio 5 days and weights 3?

[–]1CoupDeGrace22 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is controveresial and varies on your goals. Know what you're going after and make your own schedule. Search "Starting strength", look up intermittent fasting(not advertising but Leangains is the best source),and IIFYM. Good luck

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[–]WalterEArmstrong 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"You can be active 7 days a week. You can't do arms and chest 7 days a week." Excellent point. Every lifter needs to have at least one day a week when he does HEAVY leg work. I've lost track of the number of guys I've seen at the gym with big arms, shoulders, and chest but their legs were scrawny.

[–]LolBrah123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

PHAT is a nice 5 day routine (assuming you're intermediate), PPL is a great 6 day routine. Neither require any cardio.

But you could always just go for runs and do pullups and pushups each day, skip rope, play a sport, practice a martial art... Whatever you find fun.

[–]thickskinnedwhiteass[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is your Goal? Lose fat/bulk/cut?

[–]BThatDude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no. Legs and abs, back, chest, arms and shoulders, legs and abs, rest, rest

[–]RedUser20k 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Find a sport you like, play it and train for it. I'm a huge fan of full body workouts every other day with cardiovascular inbetween. But if you play basketball for example and play every other day then you would probably be ok with less weight training.

If your not into playing sports then find a goal and work to it. If you're looking for strength check out starting strength or the stones shall survive. If your going for looks then look into body building.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bike to work every day. This sort of thing increases your general fitness and metabolism and makes it really easy to stay lean. Being lean is more important than having big muscles. But having big muscles and being lean is ideal. For that you should at least to bodyweight resistance work, but ideally lift weights. But for maximum growth you should not do it 5 days a week because you need recovery periods to let your muscles grow. 3 days a week is recommended with rest days between each workout day.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1push/2pull/3legs/0rest/4push/0(oops life)/5pull

I always come back to PPL for volume. Best concept I've ever stumbled upon. Push muscles are sore, then pull muscles, legs, push are back up, etc.

I highly doubt most people here make a cardio day. I fit in rowing and jiu jitsu without a dead on plan... I don't see a reason to cardio constantly unless you're fat or training for something.

[–]PrideSc2 15 points16 points  (9 children)

I can back the PMO. Not jerking off for even a week is going to motivate the fuck out of you to talk to women.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (6 children)

I've done the nofap thing. I totally recommend not fapping ever, but only if you're getting a pretty good supply of sex, at least once a week. It doesn't matter if you're not getting enough sex to totally satisfy you, that's actually good. It makes the sex great. I think ideally we should be getting slightly to considerably less ejaculations than we want. It's really, really bad to have a hot woman in your bed but you're not horny because you already fapped earlier.

However, if you're not getting enough sex, I recommend fapping once a week for two reasons. First, ejaculating once a week has been shown to keep your testosterone higher (test gradually increases until 7 days after ejaculation, at which point it goes back down again regardless of whether you ejaculate or not). Secondly, if you don't cum at all then after a while your desire for sex actually goes down to almost nothing (called a flatline). This might be related to testosterone dropping off, I don't know. But flatlines suck and you don't want that.

Not watching porn seems to be much more beneficial. I read somewhere about the masturbation "diet". Basically, men should masturbate once a week, but not to porn. You should imagine fucking a woman that you haven't fucked yet. And you should use a fleshlight or, at the very least, lube because doing it dry reduces the sensitivity of your dick (linked to delayed ejaculation).

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is an informed comment, just one thing. My longest streak was for 2.5 whole months before I caved, and I can tell you it isn't a flatline, it's more of a "zen," you're not focused on banging chicks all the time and you can have your mind clear from sexual thought. It's great, I think it helps to reinforce the abundance and amused mastery mentality. It doesn't strip your arc drive from what I found, just made you less desperate. It also cured my delayed ejaculation and problems with porn induced erectile dysfunction. Cured my sex life.

[–]whosewineisthis 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I read an article on 4chan...lol bear with me, from some medical student from Finland. Basically, he makes the case for prolonged nofap sessions because he has reason to believe that the T spike at 7 days is only the beginning of a continuous process of absorption of some kind of chemical that binds to receptors in the bloodstream. The lull at the end of the spike is simply the point where the chemicals get reabsorbed, while T levels still continue to rise past that point. It's out there somewhere. The page itself has a picture of two men's faces for some reason. Could be bullshit, but it sounds legit.

[–]keytoimmortality 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm currently battling delayed ejaculation, I've stopped jerking it without lube, do you have any other tips other than getting a flesh light? Or do you think this is really the best option. (Also only masterbating around once a week)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you getting regular sex? If so just stop masturbating completely. Sex is now your only way to cum. But don't try to cum. Actually be happy that you will never cum. It's OK. Just enjoy sex while you're having it and concentrate on your partner and the physical sensations. In my experience the rest takes care of itself after a while.

[–]OrionSC2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NoFap also helps a lot when playing Starcraft :)

[–]Evileddie13 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I would like to add calibration. I belive it's the first step and the last step in your basics list.

[–]thewrightstuff88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Calibration is definitely an important topic because how would one know what to do if she doesn't reciprocate your advances? If you back off escalation, at what point would you try again? At what point can you determine if your efforts will be fruitless and should next her?

[–]PapaFedorasSnowden 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any links explaining calibration further? Knowing when to escalate and how much/how fast seems to be one of the things I need to improve to get past the plateau I'm on.

[–]Blaat1985 12 points13 points  (2 children)

You pulled that workout five days a week out of your ass. That totally depends on your genetics, program and experience level.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

You should exercise every day. But most people shouldn't be lifting weights five days a week...

[–]fingerthemoon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You'll make quicker progress with rest days. After a rest day you can hit it harder on workout day. The magic happens while you sleep and your body repairs the damage done. 3-4 days a week will see bigger gains and more progress than 5-7 days. I've settled into a routine of every other day, occasionally two rest days in a row, and that means as little physical activity as possible on rest days. Sometimes I'll do cardio, hiking, biking, dancing on rest days so I'm not supper strict, but you need to listen to your body and give it ample rest.

[–]yGTWgtNrco 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i) Talk to everyone you see. Make small talk or talk deep shit. But make this a fucking HABIT. You have to talk to everyone you see, no matter how big or small they might be.

This is implied in the post, but I'd like to make it explicit. Talk to everyone you see irrespective of gender. Not because one is bisexual, but women identify leaders (and therefore, prospective partners) by picking up social queues from the environment. If one is the center of attention in a group, everyone notices and reacts differently to them.

[–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi 2 points3 points  (1 child)

[–]thickskinnedwhiteass[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course. Your posts were my first taste. Thank you.

[–]Lunchmagnet 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Hey when you say "Read every day" what do you mean? This post? Or just in general?

[–]thickskinnedwhiteass[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I catalog my reading into three parts:

  1. My area is law so it would make sense for me to read up and sharpen the saw in my particular field

  2. General knowledge - News, history, books etc. Girls like it when the guy has more knowledge than them. But don't go overboard with this and constantly harp on about the thermodynamics of superconducting transition. Balance is key. Knowledge is a sort of dominance. But only give hints of it.

  3. Self growth - TRP and other things similar.

[–]1PrinceofSpades 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To expand on #2, it boils down to this:

-If she has a question, she wants you to know the answer. Basically she instinctively will look to you as her Google #1, and her phone as her Google #2.

As many men here will tell you, the more she's off her phone the better off you are.

Well, until you reach true IDGAF mentality because you both know she's there to fuck, and you don't care who else she talks to because she's replaceable and not you. That second stage is not everyone's goal though, and if it is your own, it will take time and experience to get there.

[–]yumyumgivemesome 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Awareness. Be aware of your surroundings and your inner turmoil/happiness. This is like constant meditation. You need to develop this awareness in all situations and interactions.

Are you referring to meditation or something a little more than meditation? If the latter, could you expand on what this would entail on a day-to-day basis?

Great post.

[–]thickskinnedwhiteass[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Good question.

I personally believe 90% of our thoughts are useless and mere repetitions of the negative patters we each may individually have. This leads to a huge energy drain. Second, these negative thoughts produce certain emotions in our body which can be physically felt.

For example - when you're anxious you might get a sort of heaviness in your chest or when nervous butterflies in the stomach.

What I am referring to is to not give in to the said thoughts/emotions and merely watch them from a third persons perspective. This is what I mean by awareness.

The more you do it and the more awareness you bring in, results in a melting away of these thought patterns and emotions leaving you clear headed and burden free. This leads to a lot more spontaneity in everything you do and you becoming a more natural version of yourself rather than being swayed by the roller coaster of your thoughts.

Read the power of now by Eckhart Tolle. If my three lines on awareness got you intrigued, you will be fascinated by what that book has in store for you.

[–]yumyumgivemesome 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I spoke to a guy who had done a bit of reading on zen philosophy. His advice was similar to yours -- be the mountain and watch the clouds (your emotions) pass by without being affected by them. Thanks for the explanation and book recommendation.

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Read the power of now by Eckhart Tolle. If my three lines on awareness got you intrigued, you will be fascinated by what that book has in store for you.

100% agree. It is the most important book I have ever read. Nothing else has made more of an impact on my life.

[–]JPlex 2 points3 points  (4 children)

PMO isn't in the glossary, i get what no-fap is, but what does PMO stand for?

[–]Whitest_Knight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have a shorter one;

Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. Hear the lamentations of their women. (whom you now fuck).

The end. It's also the story of natural selection in sexually reproducing species. One rule in life to rule them all.

[–]Redpill_Hannibal 3 points4 points  (1 child)

i wrote this post on my Johnny Bravo game, have a nice read.

[–]Ali_s1987 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Have u seen the comments on the vdo? The feminist phsycos are going off on Johnny bravo! A fucking cartoon

[–]CK_America 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the summery I was waiting/looking for. Thank you. I clearly resonate with this.

[–]whosewineisthis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always wondered why no one ever pushes developing an innate sense of humor and conflict management.

Watch tons of comedy videos to find your niche. You should analyze what makes what you find funny, funny. Then, you will absorb it. I did this in high school; it works.

In college, my friend pissed off some hockey player, so he got his friends in on the beef. What did I do? I stepped up and diffused the situation. My other friend started fighting with them, but his girl (he's a much manlier, high-testosterone, cooler guy) was stuck to me like electrified lint on laundry. Her friend became interested in me too. If I wasn't such a weirdo as a freshman, she and I would've gotten it on. Demonstrate that you can handle yourself in an intelligent way.

Reviewing this, I see that these "strategies," really I'd just like to call them things that you do, are much more active than what TRP endorses. So be it. It's action that counts at the end of the day anyway.

[–]kamillyczko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Masturbation without porn is OK, it might kill your productivity a bit but it won't harm your brain. Porn in itself will make you feel disgust and will eventually make you depressed. (My experience)

[–]makethemflaunt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure if this post is partly response to my post earlier calling for more discussion of game here, but either way I appreciate it.

A discussion of Game - the proactive element - is an important counter-balance to the IDGAF and Stoic imperative (rightly) pushed on noobs. Thanks.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you identify if a woman "earned the compliment"?

[–]ImDooly 1 points1 points [recovered]

Wouldn't no-fap just increase your chances of being a two pump chump?

[–]SeekingTheWay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you are concerned whether you will do a good performance for her, you failed. You are not performing for her, you perform for yourself. Just fuck her any way you find pleasurable.

[–]LOST_TALE 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The science behind it is pretty strong.'' source?

[–]MisterAttitude -3 points-2 points  (6 children)

I am a goodlooking man (9+) and I can use the push pull techniques or principles of game but it seems they never work and I end up chasing the women and that's frustrating. I know there are other men like me struggling with the same shit.

Now the question I have to ask is how do you deal with women playing games like ignoring you or making you wait before getting a reply? I used to play these games along but they got me nowhere except giving me headache for nothing. Nowadays if I get the feeling a woman is playing games then I leave her ass alone because I have no time for that crap and from my experience ALL women play these games. It's kind of sad really that there are hardly any decent women out there who are not attention whoring.

For instance the last one I approached was this HB9.5 I used to ignore and for a while we only said hi. Then she suddenly shows IOI's and looks at me from top to toe and winks, smiles and that shit and after a while with some small talk I am like ok let's do this and I ask her to join me for a drink and she says no it's not you I have a boyfriend or something like that. And I'm thinking like wtf bitch you gave me every signal and then you do this?

[–]Physio_Tool 4 points5 points  (1 child)

This comment is too out of context to give any advice on. Where are you meeting these girls? Time of day? How do you dress? Are you buff? How are the interactions with the chicks going before you get their number? Too many variables here to just give some blanket advice on.

I got tired of the whole numbers going stale from night time thing and For about 1.5 years I wasnt taking any numbers and only physically screened girls and would literally quick escalate the fuck out of them. Sure enough most of my interactions were 5-30 minutes before I fucked them that night. So thats one way you could solve your issue. But again Im giving advice on which I know nothing about you.

[–]1PrinceofSpades 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Classic 30 minute window.

Folks, NEVER start escalation unless you are within 30 minutes of someplace you can seal the deal, be it an Uber/taxi ride or a walk away. Also I mean someplace she is going to let you fuck, obviously you can physically fuck literally anywhere. If you don't know what escalation is, please get yourself educated by researching DiCarlo's escalation ladder.

[–]grewapair 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You aren't a 9+.

I sat next to one at a bar and there was a wall behind us so I had to get up to let him out. Bar in front, wall in back, no room at all. U shaped bar, we were on the right side.

Women 8 and 9s literally crawled over me to talk to him. He told them he had a gf and they didn't even flinch.

Start aiming lower. Pick up some experience with a 7 and they'll also help you dress better. Then move up.

[–]CynicsChoice 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sounds like you don't know what shit tests are and are somewhat lacking in sidebar material.

The sad truth is that really beautiful women these days are mostly worthless sacks of shit. You must try out a vast number of them before finding one worth your time. Don't waste your time on the worthless ones. If you truly are a 9+, you can spend MUCH less time and effort on approach. A 9+ who approaches too hard is not natural, you need to work on your attitude and place yourself on the pedestal. Make THEM work for it.

[–]bigcitytruth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have to rack up numbers. Embrace the failure. You WILL get rejected, women are often finicky, taken, tired, etc. The more you approach, the less you'll notice the failures. If you go out one night, go out with a buddy and make a pact to try approaching ten hot women. Keep each conversation to 5 minutes, then say, "Hey I have to mingle/go get a drink/go to that side/etc, I'll see you again in a bit."

You only have one chance to make a first impression. In that first impression, you MUST indicate that you are a sexual being that is attracted to her, and not a "gay boyfriend." Don't go over the top. You want to build sexual tension. "Small talk" won't cut it. Small talk is the number one thing that most guys confuse for interest. She's not into you just by being nice and being chatty. She's into you if she's touching you and actually flirting back. How do you get her to flirt back? You have to flirt with her first.

[–]1PrinceofSpades 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My most simple answer is next them. Honestly. Doing anything more then that gives them the power. Make sure they see it too. Friends with the girl you're flirting with on fb? Update that profile picture to you with another girl. If she isn't messaging you back, then who cares? If you care before you've been inside her or she's managed to prove her worth beyond her looks in some other way before that point, then you've already lost.

Also you failed her shittest in your last paragraph plain and simple: you're more attractive than her boyfriend but you had to prove you were worth leaving him for (if she even actually had one) and you failed. The correct answer ranges from "so? What does that have to do with us having a drink?" to something akin to "awww how adorable! Do you keep him on a leash?"

[–]awcc45 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

And each and every bit of these "game" tactics should and will come naturally to you, without having to be manipulative.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

This only applies if you're ugly/average. Alpha genes don't need 'game'.

[–]awcc45 -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

I'm just gonna say, dudes, that there are good women out there. You know, good people who happen to be female. Hopefully one day you can find one and have a healthy relationship

[–]coolwords 1 points1 points [recovered]

If that's the path you choose, then I sincerely do hope you are able to continue living in your blissful ignorance until your very last breath. It certainly is an existence that can feel more rewarding in some ways.

Know however that this place is merely a resource which provides information for those whose similar outlooks on life have been proven to be untrue and unhelpful by their own experiences.

[–]awcc45 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Blissful ignorance, lol. The problem is you dudes think like little boys. And you either fear or hate women, which is pretty gross. Women do not want a guy that has 'a mating plan'. That's DORKY. Don't you get it