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Field ReportIt Shouldn't Be This Easy... (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table

Summary: Ex-plate jeorpadises her marriage and family life for...honestly, who the fuck knows?

Body

Had a plate back in high school. HB7 then; beautiful eyes and face, good body. Throughout the last six months of school, and for a while after we finished, she tried to extract commitment from me, but it just never happened.

Meanwhile, she had a boyfriend of two years who'd moved to a neighbouring job to do his engines degree. She would alternate between home and visiting this guy. On one of her trips, she texted me all this shit about how much she loved me and that she wished she knew how i truly felt about her. I told her i valued her, but i wouldn't say anything i didn't feel just 'cause she'd said it first. Radio silence after that, and when she came back she told me her boyfriend had discovered her chats with me and been livid that she would degrade herself to the extent of sleeping and falling in love with a guy who didn't care about her(Hello, pedestal) But of course, he took her back, and, being the prideless individual he is, proposed a few months later. She told me the night he popped the question, saying that this was my last chance to have her; after this she would be a married woman who would be faithful to her husband. I told her that he was best for her, and to accept. We had sporadic contact for a while afterward, but at some point it stopped being fun and i stopped responding. That was about two years ago; cold turkey until a few days ago.

I was laying on the couch, trying to catch an afternoon nap(Literal all-night sex with the ovulating LTR) I get a text from an unknown number.

Random Number: I can't believe you haven't made an effort to find me in all this time. You are an asshole.

MeThis is?

Random Number It's RM.

I stop and ask myself why. Why is a married woman contacting me after two years? Let's see.

Me Oh...hey

RM: Hey yourself. How you been? It's been so long. I miss you.

Me: Oh?

RM: Yeah. I never wanted to tell you because you have a huge ego, along with other huge things(I'm average, btw) but you have always held my heart and you are one in a million.

Me: What about your husband?

RM: He is an angel, always helping with the baby(what baby?) and takes care of all my needs. But i've never felt a fire for him.

I try to deflect from this, just to see.

ME: How old is the baby?

RM: Nine months old. She ruined my figure though.

Me: Show me

RM: lol. I'm married.

Me: Show me

RM: You will have to earn them. Show me you still love me.

At this point, i'm starting to drift away, so i say 'fuck it' put the phone down and have ,my nap. I wake up 25 mins later and check my phone. There are about a dozen fucking photos of her, beginning her in a bath gown, showing one tit, showing both, teasing it off the shoulder, full frontal, side-ass shots, and a couple of pussy shots. Now, i would be remiss if i didn't state that she looks fucking bangable. Her B-cups are nice C-cups now( Thanks, breastfeeding) but everything else is as tight as i remember.

I stare at these photos for a couple of minutes, and whether it's the clarity that one gets straight after waking up or whatever, i am filled with a deep sense of disgust. Strangely enough though, my disgust is almost detached...I guess this is what scientists feel like when they confirm a theory they'd spent a while on. I decide to do see how far this can go, and i prompt her to go further. She describes in detail how she'd like me to fuck her good and come inside her, and how she is going to suck my soul out through my dick.

I read this, then look back at those photos. They're taken in her fucking matrimonial bedroom, with her standing on her goddamn matrimonial bed, with her kid's cot bed right be-fucking-side her( I think i see the baby's outline, but can't be sure). Her husband is at work right now, slaving away--as much as that applies to an engineer-- so she can stay at home and be with their kid. What is she doing? Texting an old fling about wanting to fuck him silly.

In the space of less than an hour she has risked everything she has for...something. An hour, and no investment on my part and she has forsaken her marriage vows, and broken the laws of God which she now professes to follow unerringly. AN hour and a few texts...that's how easy it was to make her show me what should be for her husband only. The worst part is, even if he finds out, he is likely to forgive her and probably blame me.Life's funny like that, i guess.


Lessons Learned: AWALT? Women are sluts? I don't know, man. Sometimes this shit just smacks you when you least expect it.


[–]Endorsed Contributornyrp 248 points249 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

how she is going to suck my soul out through my dick.

Careful. That might be the one true thing she said.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No shit, she's obviously off in the head. OP could face rape charges should he go thru with it then cut her off/don't give into what she wants. The very best scenario is having a beef with her husband.

[–]conspiracyjunkie 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah, not with those pictures.

[–][deleted] 277 points278 points  (109 children) | Copy Link

If most guys only knew how easy it is to get women, they wouldn't try as hard as they do.

[–]twatbutter 141 points142 points  (91 children) | Copy Link

Being physically mediocre is easy-- keeping your body in shape, upping your game, and exposing yourself to social situations requires work. Much easier for a beta to stay home on friday/saturdays and just eat junk/play games/jack off, by comparison.

[–]vezokpiraka76 points77 points  (88 children) | Copy Link

You don't even have to lift to get an average girl. It's enough to not be fat and have some back-bone.

It's appalling how men these days do so many dumb things.

Of course if Chad comes around you can be the alphaest alpha, but you won't be able to do anything about that.

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (26 children) | Copy Link

Can confirm. I'm skinny as fuck and still get girls.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

where the fuck do you guys live?

[–]trpalternate 51 points52 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Probably near the epicenter of America's obesity epidemic.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This applies anywhere, which is why PUA works at being successful with women. TRP is there for Everything else imo.

[–]PM_Me_Yo_Tits_Grrl 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Any decently populated place? Hang out with people at places you like and be likeable, and everything else follows ez. These steps can be hard to some though, bc change of identity = anxiety. Hence procrastination

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Hang out with people at places you like and be likeable, and everything else follows ez.

unlike not being ripped, that right there is my bigger problem :( hopefully it will change when i graduate in a couple months.

[–]PM_Me_Yo_Tits_Grrl 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Stuck somewhere you dont like? Learn to like it as a challenge of a sort. I'd suggest that getting caught in a mindset of "I dont like x" when you have to do it is a ego/drama trap of feeling sorry for oneself, and that desires can be changed with heart. The Way of the Superior Man and other things have made me think this way.

I find that coming out the other side, recognizing inherent nature of the world/people/women/animals but still appreciating/loving them is what got me the most success. But that's not the path for everyone, especially not cynics.

[–]Stalgrim 17 points18 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Fantasy land. Haven't you been?

[–]Cloughtower 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, it's Saturday night and we're all at home jacking off to TRP

[–]BRENDORVEGAS 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's called Imagination Land

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

i go there every time i fap.

[–]ThePillIsRed 0 points0 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Lolwut. I'm absolutely not jacked, i lift but you can't even tell, and i've had atleast half a dozen girls which wanted to fuck me last semester, despite me being in a LTR.

Mind this is Europe.

[–]DforDeadpool 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Mind you were in a LTR. "Preselection".

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

i guess unlike me, you probably have a good game and a social life :D thats far more important than being ripped.

[–]TRP VanguardtrpSenator 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Berlin... It's so fucking easy out here, it's not even funny. The girls are all mostly attractive and healthy, and also extremely promiscious. They're the type who go on dates while having a BF, because they don't consider a dinner, movie, bar combo a date...

Want a GF though? Just talk to a single chick. There are tons and tons and tons of them... Because frankly, they all think they are single even if they are not. Want to fuck? Just go to a club and start dancing with random chicks. You don't even need to talk. Just dance, get her horny, and you're good to go. It's fucking crazy-land. The only thing you need to deal with is how these chicks have no sense of commitment at all. You can get getting hot and heavy with a chick, laying on some secluded patio, making out, then her friend will pop up and say she wants to introduce her to some of her friends she just met. And bam, that chick is gone like it's no big deal, and gone forever. Like I said, it's fucking strange and hard to get used to at first.

[–]Gawernator 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True. I was ridiculously skinny at 16-17 and still got girls

[–][deleted]  (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]KamaCosby 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol yup I kinda look like shit (skinny fat with slightly visible abs) and girls don't really give a fuck. It's probably the facial features that stand out but still

[–]J_AsapGem 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

i'm skinny asf myself i get a few girls sometime.. but it makes me insecure asf, how tall are you if you don't mind me asking?

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm 5'10. I used to be super insecure. After a while I just stopped caring, not just about my body but about what women think.

That alone has improved my dating life significantly

[–]VirgoRooster36 points [recovered] (47 children) | Copy Link

90+% of attractiveness is appearance. No amount of game will supercede height, genetics, and shape.

Like, all of this song and dance is an evolutionary trick to to produce fit offspring. Nothing is a better predictor of that than physical appearance.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 116 points117 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

You're right, but there is more to it. The tall guy with the genetics can still have his bitch fucked by the short man who has game and a little muscle. What that means is that the tall man has it easier, but the short heavy man isn't out completely.

However, being the short man who has fucked lots of better looking dudes, we who aren't as genetically gifted have to be better at game and have something about us that works. For me is muscle and facial symmetry coupled with massive confidence and quite effective game. I will not go for girls who aren't showing interest already, and not girls who could be supermodels (although some of them show interest), which means I don't piss everyone off. It's a case of know your limits, and don't give a fuck that you have a limit. There is no shortage of hot girls who want to fuck a man like me, she doesn't have to be some other worldly goddess, she only had to want to fuck me... While not being a hambeast.

A 6'2 man with my game and muscle will always win over me, but that doesn't mean I have to give up and be celibate. The same girl who turns me down when he is there will fuck me when he isn't available. Side by side, he wins. On my own, I can win too.

That is the reality of things.

[–]HollowJoe 61 points62 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You are the attitude with which red pill draws me in. An acceptance of our limitations, shortcomings and disadvantages, but a refusal to wallow in them. To move on and improve despite these things dragging us down and to become stronger because of the hardship we face. And above all else, aversion to a victim complex like the plague.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's good that you get it, many whiny bitches don't, neither do the insecure fucks who can't stand the idea that sometime else is better at something than they are. Fucking right I am an expert in many areas, but other people are experts in those areas too, they can learn it like I did. It doesn't make me less of anything.

I've had lots of shit dumped on me in my life, but I always try to make shit better and not dwell on the shit I can't change.

[–]singeblanc 28 points29 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

being the short man who has fucked lots of better looking dudes

Are we really not doing "phrasing" any more? Because I feel like this would be a good time to bring it back...

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fucked up tablet. I need to proof read more now. Fuck. It was supposed to say beget looking dudes wives and girlfriends, but it was erased somewhere.

[–]UntraceableRP 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I will not go for girls who aren't showing interest already, and not girls who could be supermodels (although some of them show interest

By showing interest do you just mean they check you out in passing? And why not good looking supermodels?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well I am short, so really hot girls who get tons of attention will shit test the fuck out of me. I have better shit to do than deal with that crap on a constant basis.

[–]J_AsapGem 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wouldn't make sense to lament on things we cannot change, we only make it a burden upon ourselves. What we can do is magnify what we do have and use it to our best ability.

[–]freedomman0 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Money is more important than ally that

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure, if you want to be her beta bucks that gets starfish sex once a month. I don't pay for shit, and they have no idea how much money I make.

[–]babayega 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

who has fucked lots of better looking dudes

Are you bi? Interesting to get your perspective.

[–]the_dwarfee 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think he means fucked over, but that's my interpretation

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No the tablet changes shit at random. Lately is been dropping words and entire sentences.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard." - Derek Jeter

[–]redpillisfakeandgay 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

being the short man

How short are we talking here?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

5'8. Most of my friends are 6' or more, I'm always the short guy. I have a couple friends shorter than I am, but we don't go chasing sluts together.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the greatest things I've ever read on TRP.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Highly dependable. Being short, fat or ugly will kick you down the attractiveness curb for sure. Then there are those that are good in all areas. Next there are those that are exceptional in all areas. And a mix-match of small heigth, good genetics ofcourse.

That's your baseline and now you build on top of that with your added SMV. The level of girls that will be interested in you will differ based on your level. Increasing your SMV will just solidify your succes with those on your level and give you the chance for some hotties from time to time.

Except for entitled bitches- but who the fuck wants those.

[–]twatbutter 5 points6 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Not sure why you're being downvoted-- you speak the truth. Most of our biological basis for attraction comes from physical attraction as opposed to anything else. If you hear that "game, personality, etc." are what women are actually interested in, then you're hearing blue-pill fantasies that are sold via the media or other brainwashing. This is evidenced by the abundance of CC sluts in their early 20s (prime age) who only fuck top men exclusively.

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[–]babayega 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Right in theory, but physically attractive people also have much easier time gaining confidence and game, so it snowballs.

[–]VirgoRooster -2 points-2 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I just hate the lack of understanding of evo-psych I see on this sub. It's like watching someone try to learn biology while denying evolution. You can try, but it's retarded--nothing will make sense except in light of that concept.

No, girls aren't attracted to some sort of intangible "confidence" you exude. They like your muscles, if they like you at all.

[–]Muricanexpat 17 points17 points [recovered] | Copy Link

Bullshit, women will sleep with you if you have high status/money. If flava flav can pull, anyone can

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You are way off. Women fuck older men and rich men all the time. They are attracted to status and money ad wrll as looks. Women are not as into looks as men are. An unattractive girl cannot "game" a man". An unattractive man can game a woman. Neil Strauss is a good example. Hate the PUA movement all you like but it does not mean those guys don't get laid. Human sexual behaviour is not as simple as evolution. High intelligence and high resources are also desirable to a woman.

[–]Janus_Fawkes 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

...serious lack of understanding of human nature. Humans are attracted to positive, confident attitudes regardless of race or gender.

[–]frrunkis0 points [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

Explain the RSD guys than? Most of them are ugly and short and yet get laid most nights they go out, sometimes more than once in a night.

Behavioural tendencies > looks.

[–]negevrush7 points [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

RSD, seriously? They're just great at marketing. I'd say half of their in field videos are fake. Don't get me wrong, I still watch Tyler, but don't delude yourself and buy into that PUA shit.

[–]DforDeadpool 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This. First, they convince you that having game is the most important thing to get girls. Which is not, compared to SMV.

High SMV + little game > Low SMV + great game.

Always.

Then they convince you to approach all the time. They say "Doesn't matter what you say, but if you want to learn what to say, here's our new product!" and stuff like that. So people buy it. Then the "That didn't work? You must approach more dude! Besides, our new product is sure to work! And if it doesn't, I encourage you to take a bootcamp / come to our hotseats. Limited seating!" part comes. If they were honest, they wouldn't yell "APPROACH YOU PUSSY!" for 50 minutes in their videos, instead they'd just say "Lose the gut, loser, no hot girl would fuck a hamtard like you.". Instead they hire a fat dude to prove their point.

A fatty may have great game. He can pull chicks here and there and if he's really good, he can even get with a 9 or 10 sometimes. Yet, what a fatty can absolutely do is to teach game. It's easy. You just "push students into sets". Go talk to her, bro. Then you give feedback. That's it. Just check if they have good body language and vocal tone, give your feedback accordingly, and boom, you're an MPUA Dating Coach. Best. Job. Ever.

We have a local legend here. It's a fat teenager on some PUA Facebook page. Dude swallowed the PUA-pill, probably took a bootcamp, and he went on opening every girl crossed his path. He'd talk to 50-60 women, daily. Maybe more sometimes. He always wrote field reports and such. He did it for a month or so I guess. Results? Zero. People would comment on his FRs, stuff like "Lol get a life loser, who'd fuck you?" and stuff. But he bought into the PUA mindset too heavily. On fatty's perspective, he did everything he needed to do. He puts himself over there, goes and approaches. That's all it takes, isn't it? There is no way he'd believe being fat damages his game, because his PUA maestros say otherwise. "It's irrevelant!". Yeah right. So, the kid concludes that something is just fucking wrong with him. That he is broken because he did everything for women to like him but they didn't. He quits it altogether and goes back to his BP life. Poor bastard.

That's why and how PUA-pill hurts men. Fuck RSD.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Have you actually meet those guys? I have spent time with them, they are genuinely really good at what they do. They might not pull like an NFL player but given what they got they do do really well.

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

No. I agree with him. I'm very good looking. But as far as my behavior goes, I can say, no holds barred, I suck.

I don't personally care of their infields are fake, there's no way to tell.

[–]vezokpiraka -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you are ugly than tough luck, but being ugly as a bloke is kind of hard if you at least aren't fat. They aren't going to get the greatest girl, but they will keep one at home.

You must have friends or people you know that are alpha, but kinda ugly.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

average girl

depends if youre average or above

You read the OKcupid report on how demanding girls are?

[–]vezokpiraka 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I know they are demanding. But that's when you are asking for demands.

[–]whyalwaysm3 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What's the report? Tried googling but didn't find anything.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

http://blog.okcupid.com/

idk where the exaxt article but OKcupid SCIENTIFICALLY confirmed that majority of women want the top 20% (fuck at or above their league)

men on the other hand fuck below, at and (rarely)above their league = evenly spread distribution.

[–]twatbutter 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

What kind of girl are you aiming for, though? Even HB5's have higher standards than your average beta nowdays, and unless you're gunning for fatties or post-wall women, I don't think that your average dude scores very well with women, at all.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm 5'8, very thick build, I look like a brick. I've looked this way for the last 25 years. Now I have gray in my beard, a hard belly that stocks out a bit, but it is easy for me to get what most guys call a 7. If I can get an 8/9 around her beta orbiters for the first interaction, they are easy to get. If there is a taller guy around, it's harder for me but I can still do ok.

Might be the muscle, might be the confidence and way I carry myself, but I get interest from girls half my age everywhere I go. It's very easy to fuck them.

The average guy doesn't have game, which is more than physical appearance. That's why average guys rarely get over 10 notches in a lifetime. Hell 10 for me is a very slow year, meaning ltr, deployment, or I'm too busy building something to bother with girls. Last year was 7, because I wasn't interested and I was busy building my home and a shop. The year before was around 15, and I turned down more than that. It's not a priority in my life.

5 to 7 had lots of shit tests and entitlement to deal with, but a strong frame does wonders. Once you fuck them, dread and dgaf work perfectly. All you need is to not be disgusting looking, and have even cursory game to do bettet than most men. Get muscular and it's easier.

[–]vezokpiraka 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Average beta. Who wants average girls. If they aren't too beta they can get them.

[–]agarmend 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I am pretty fat. Don't have a fat face, but a pretty big belly. I can get almost any girl I want.

[–]Strangeclouds420 -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Even being fat can land you and average chick. When I was bigger, cute petite women were my specialty

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This. 100% this.

Please realize there is a concentrated effort to emasculate men, to encourage pornography and masturbation to keep men in a state of perpetual arrested development.

Who needs to learn game when any girl you've ever wanted is naked at your finger tips, albeit being fucked by another man, training you for the future cuckfest.

Who needs to learn to be a man and do things yourself when the government will do EVERYTHING for you as long as you are subservient.

Welcome to this Brave New World.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

it is, but once you red pill you cant go back. even if you have a little bumps in the road ( like i did last night) you can't go back. I just can't unlearn what I learned here.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Women play hard to get horribly, they overdo it 9 out of 10 times. This one girl in particular had a habit of talking to me in short bursts. Never seemed that interested in me but just making small talk.

Next up I hear from a friend of mine that knows this girl. The woman had been obsessing about me for weeks. Asked him about me and for advice how to approach me. I would have never known had he not told me. Had I not discovered TRP I would have probably double texted her by now.

Women mind game a guy like crazy and then wonder why there are no attractive men. Guys end up baffled about the implied difficulty that they end up trying even harder- being none the wiser..

[–]sorceryofthetesticle 10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It's amazing. Girls will even approach me, lots of ioi's and ask for my number or want to "hang out." I'll set up plans in a short text or two, and then they play this weird push-pull game where they act excited to hang out but then in person are completely stone faced, unreactive and uninterested in whatever I'm about, and they shit test CONSTANTLY, especially if one of their friends is near by.

"Will you hold this for me pleeease?! :)))" (when she could just as easily set it on the table). Or, "I Love doing this with [insert orbiter name here]!" or near endless interruptions when I'm talking, or they try to skip songs I'm playing ... I don't know what the fuck that shit's about. It's happened with the past 4 women I've spent time with, and I just end up ignoring them after we go go out because it's such an unenjoyable situation.

Yeah, my game needs a lot of work I'll admit it, that's why I'm going out... But fucking why? It's so goddamn hostile that I don't even want to get laid anymore. The best response I've had with these idiots is when I flat out said to one who tried to unload her feelings, "I don't want to talk about your stupid past, it's worthless to me." She looked at me in shock, but then she actually shut the fuck up and acted like I was interesting and funny afterward. Is this how gender relations have always been, or are these chicks fucking mutant retards designed to weed out all but the most aggressive, self interestes dudes?

[–]1PantsonFire1234 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women can't handle freedom and this society gives them all the freedom they can get, plus some sprinkly freedom on top- just for them because they are so special.

The're so busy playing games and constantly testing their guys that they forget about what they bring to the table. This is a creature so sophistic and childish in nature that she won't realize how bored the guy must be feeling. I've banged girls that acting like they were the prize beforehand. One such girls body sagged so much after the pants came off that I had to look at one of my 'bimbo' posters just to cum.

They don't even need to put an effort in it. Put some make up on, look a bit pretty and smile and laugh, that's it. Next they are telling you how you're "the lucky one" for getting to nail her. Yeah right, we're the lucky ones for getting to fuck an emote less heap of flesh. That's why TRP reminds to that "You are the prize". Women in no circumstance are. Even the hottest women are simply there to attract you sexually. If you find a girl that can still cook in this day and age- that's your unicorn.

[–]ChadJr 16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Is an ex though so it's easier for her to hamster it." We already had sex so it doesn't count if we do it again"

[–]circlhat 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Its easy when the girl likes you, you make it seem as if you can walk up to any women and spit game, its super easy when the women is coming on to you.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If most guys only knew how easy it is to get women, they wouldn't try as hard as they do.

Like shooting fish in a barrel if you're in the top 20%.

[–]UniversalFapture 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

But even then, it just seems to not have any affect. I suck with women . Period. After a while, you just say fuck it and just do your own thing. I wouldn't call it giving up, since my body is one of my main concerns, but you'll get tired of no results.

It is what it is

[–]yarow12 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

"The less fucks you give, the more she will." -Tommy McGrew {DoubleToasted.com}

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 132 points133 points  (55 children) | Copy Link

Married women are way easier than hot co-eds. Waaaay easier. Housewives are baaad.

[–][deleted] 84 points85 points  (52 children) | Copy Link

Military wives are the baddest.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 54 points55 points  (50 children) | Copy Link

Most women consider military men losers. While the military is full of honorable and qualified sorts, public perception is that the military is mostly fuckups and failures who couldn't find anywhere else to go. And women are ruled by public perception.

It's practicality a badge of honor to cheat on a loser.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Most women consider military men losers.

It depends. I find women's perspective of military men depends on her surroundings and essentially whatever is "missing" from her life. If she's had tons of alpha guys, she will be pining for beta relief. If she's been coddled by a beta provider, she's jilling to the idea of a strong, alpha male. I also think military guys (actually all guys) have a ton of confirmation bias.

If you're a military guy, chances are you hang around girls who hang around a bunch of military guys. She is exposed to alpha guys all the time, so you get no points for that. When a guy comes along who doesn't have the distinct disadvantages of being military, he's at an advantage. She takes it for granted that men are alpha and sees a man who has everything that her old Army boyfriend didn't (e.g. higher paycheck, better career prospects, etc...).

If you're an IT nerd, chances are you hang around liberal girls whose fathers were college-educated accountants, businessmen, lawyers, etc... She is exposed to successful guys all the time, so you get no points for that. When a guy comes along with tattoos and a bad boy attitude she melts in his arms. She takes it for granted that all men will be respectful and kind to her, and she sees a man who is everything her old beta boyfriend wasn't (e.g. assertive, sexy, alpha, etc...).

This is where confirmation bias comes in. Eventually your girl will become accustomed to what you are and starts taking it for granted. She'll start looking for whatever you're missing. This is why I advocate having two sides. In public/sex you are alpha/dominant. In private you show some of your beta side. You basically need to be two people, because she'll never respect a man who doesn't have the respect of others, but she'll never feel comfortable with a man who she feels is completely closed off emotionally.

[–]NormanoSilurian 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree, I suspect women are fundamentally looking for an alpha/beta alloy.

[–]antariusz 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The opposite works too.

I'm an asshole, but only to her. Her parents love me. Society loves me.

She can't get enough. Maybe she thinks she can fix me.

[–]Another1Another1 48 points49 points  (25 children) | Copy Link

I've grown up around nothing but military myself and I've only noticed this sort of sentiment from the limp wristed liberal college male crowd....pretty much 90% of women I've encountered are simply astonished by service members.

Im pretty sure most women implicitly know that the militarys one of the last bastions of humanity left in this country.

However. The average Blooper is disgusted and terrified by the image of "hyper masculinity" associated with the military.

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The problem with military relationships is women require constant emotional stimulation and male validation so guys on deployment with women back home are at high risk of getting cucked unless they have someone they trust watching their back at home.

I had a couple of buddies in the military who went through this. Much respect to those who put their lives and pride on the line when they serve on deployment.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I spent a few years in the sandbox, every time I went, almost every married guy ended up coming back home to an empty house/bank account or suspicious pregnancy.

[–]Gawernator 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's why my dad said never get married until she had completed at least one deployment. Even then, I wouldn't these days.... Somehow it worked for him

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

last bastions of humanity left in this country

I could not stop laughing when wrote that. Women cheat on military guys all the time. Yea the uniform can (emphasis on can) get you a great fuck, but don't think for a second that it guarantees that or that they won't cheat on you. It is incredibly easy to cuck soldiers. Do you also believe you are fighting for peace and justice?

[–]Another1Another1 17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I actually meant bastion of masculinity, not humanity. My bad.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe, but that is being steadily eroded by all of the weird new rules the military is doing due to sexual assault issues.

[–]BrokenPangea 20 points20 points [recovered] | Copy Link

I think its a bit of a paradox. On one hand, being in a combat situation where you have to literally fight to the death for yourself and your brothers in arms is probably the most masculine experience imaginable. Even though its horrible, I sort of envy it because I bet that experience would put my entire life in total clarity.

On the other hand, why did these soldiers join in the first place? My brother joined to pay for college. That to me seems to be the most feminine reason I can possibly imagine for putting yourself in harms way. He's afraid of school debt? So he enters a battlefield?? I suppose if a man joins the military because he's actually a patriot and he believes in what he's fighting for, then I can respect that. I suspect, however, that isn't the case that often.

So perhaps its more like this: A bunch of betas get thrown into hell and either die or come out men.

[–]Elodrian 25 points26 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I joined for an adventure.

I stay in because western civilization is still worth protecting (despite all that "enjoy the decline" talk) and there are barbarians at the gates.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

if you worked in european marine military you would be literally ferrying those barbarians in (frontex). ah, what the fuck is happening...

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I stay in because western civilization is still worth protecting

It's not on a battlefield that the future of Western Civilisation will be decided, but in the hearts and minds of the citizens that inhabit Western countries. E.g. German soldiers are completely helpless regarding the migrant crisis and German police are carrying out orders from their political masters to crack down on nationalist groups and to go easy on migrants/refugees.

[–]truthyego 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Wake up dipshit. I got OUT OF the military because we are fighting for global central bankers, a large industrial profiteering complex, and global elitists, NOT for freedom or western civilization. The patriotism line is a load of bullshit.

We CREATED AL Qaeda and ISIS. We encourage and foster terrorism to have an pretext for intervention. It is about domination NOT defence. And most of all, it is about enforcing the global dollar standard to perpetuate the domination of the banking cartel that claims ownership over not just the planet, but the People as well.

Military folks love to talk the national defence line because no one wants to admit they're fighting for INjustice. Once you admit to urself what's really going on u have to exit the gravy train. Flying was fucking awesome, but not awesome enough to continue to help enforce oppression.

[–]Philhelm 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I told people that I joined so that I could shower with men.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

School debt is terrible. Even with a good paying job it can set you back several years if you are trying to build something. Doing the military for college or citizenship makes more sense than doing it for patriotism. How can you be patriotic for politicians and wealthy contributors? I'm no liberal and I can still see through all of that bs.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I joined because the Marines are one of the most feared organizations on the planet.

Aslo, the Army estimates only 25% of Americans are fit to train bases on fitness, aptitude, and criminal history. That's just to ship to boot camp, for the Army. My Recruit platoon started with 90 recruits and graduated about 55.

Its a competition between drill instructor teams to graduate with the smallest class in company

[–]Gawernator 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The military has definitely helped me grow up much faster

[–]Philhelm 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I enlisted in the Army Reserve as a combat engineer (infantry wasn't an option, or else I would have chosen that; it's probably for the best that it wasn't an option) while in college, but eventually got involuntarily transferred to a bridge building company for deployment. I can't pinpoint one reason, but I was always fascinated with the military and would have war fantasies from time to time. However, I used to have low confidence since I was scrawny (135 lbs. at 18) until I started lifting after high school. I also resented the idea of moving around a lot, since I did that during my childhood, so active military was unappealing.

At the MEPS station where we got tested, some of us were comparing ASVAB scores. I got a 99, which is the maximum aggregate score, and the other guy stated that I should have joined the Air Force instead. I wanted them to slap a rifle in my hands and let me blow shit up (Rah! Rah! USA!); it didn't work that way, but that was the idea. It was clear to me that the other guy had different motivations. I think that I had a foolish need to prove something. On the other hand, I do think that it was the closest thing to having a rite of passage, and I think that I'm a better man for having had the experience. I'm also glad that I won't have to look back one day and think, "Man, I wonder what it would have been like."

Regardless, only a complete moron would join the military just for the GI Bill, considering how easy it is to get student loans. I suspect that those people might have other reasons.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe you never saw that people think that because you grew up around nothing but military people like you said.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

90% of women I've encountered are simply astonished by service members.

I tend to think that what 90% of women see when they see a man in uniform, is someone who has no trouble taking orders and will sacrifice himself for benefit of weaker people, simply for the supposed 'honor' of doing so. The long-haired pacifist may give her tingles when she's young and stupid, but there's not much more a woman could want in a beta provider than a compliant man who has no trouble exclaiming, 'Yes, ma'am/sir!'.

[–]Another1Another1 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol

Well you definitely don't know what the fuck you're talking about nor do you have any grasp of why the average person joins.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The "what the fuck I'm talking about" is what women think of servicemen, not what men think of servicemen, or what servicemen think of themselves, or what their reasons are for serving.

[–]notgivefuck 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks, now I don't have to reply to that headass

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Arch, I noticed something different. Yes in places like SF and NYC, military is looked down upon. Around the bases it can go either way, but an Army base is very different than an Air Force Base. You don't have nearly as many fuckwits in the USAF, they don't stay long because it's competitive to even be there. The Army will take anyone, and they have a problem keeping them around, the USAF can't get people to leave so they make shit up to force them out.

Marines have both things going on, as does the Navy. It depends on if the person is a fuck up or if they have their shit and what job they do. Army is looked down upon, they're mostly fuckwits, but not entirely. If you live near an Army post, people will not like them much. Most people around an AFB have no idea is even there. The members blend in off duty,and don't get in stupid ignorant trouble. So nobody notices.

[–]redestofthereds 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My city has an army base and while some are cool, a lot of them are douchey as fuck.

[–]Gawernator 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm navy and have mostly seen the mixed bag. Most women I've met seem to find the uniform itself hot or like military men in general or are indifferent.

Of course the navy has complete geniuses and dumb deck seaman too.

[–]ben0wn4g3 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

In my experience only men who are losers themselves and not ballsy enough to join the military think like this.

Edit as I know this will be taken out of context.

Men who aren't losers often have great respect for military men. Those ballsy enough or not. I don't believe for one second every man hasn't thought about being Special Forces, y'know, to see if they got what it takes.

I think there is a big difference between those who go for the challenge and the thrill and those who go because they can't do nothing else. And that difference will be obvious as hell to anyone with any ounce of ability to read a person.

Being a single military man is a pretty Red Pill life I imagine.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I toyed with the idea when I was younger. I come from a long line of navy men. But I ended up doing the standard college - post grad - job route. I'm close with a good number of military guys, and it's a shame how much society shits on them and assumes they're losers.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow. I thought Americans are the one's who respect their military the most.

[–]yarow12 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's complicated.

As a nation (publicly), yes. As individuals (privately), not everyone does.

It's very similar to any other bandwagon (sports, politics, war on drugs, "I would never in my life...", etc.).

[–]t_m_1984 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not american, so not going to get into the whole love/hate relationship that the american public has with it's military (which is quite shameful actually)

I do not get why it would be a badge of honor though (not saying it isnt true). These guys are risking their lives for something most of them believe in.

[–]afkb39sdfb 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

public perception is that the military is mostly fuckups and failures who couldn't find anywhere else to go.

I spent 8 years in the Army, there are a few good ones, but is isn't far from the truth honestly.

[–]UniversalFapture -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Jesus man that's fucked up. I never heard of that

[–]Eugenics2015 -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wat? I've honestly never heard this before

[–]redestofthereds -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I live near an army base and I interact with army wives, and they're pretty cunty.

Some people that actually work on base would say that they're just plain worthless.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Maybe for enlisted, but not so much for officers.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 9 points10 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Definitely. 19-21 year old PFC Joe, home from a deployment, with his buzzcut and camouflage PJs, gets dirty looks at a Starbucks in a liberal urban center, and his wife thinks he's a fuckup and just married him for the military benefits.

Lieutenant Dan with the BS in nuclear engineering who stays stateside and bosses people around at a navy base is seen in a better light.

[–]the_vagenius 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

For confirmation of this, look at their wives. Officers have notoriously hot wives. That big paycheck goes a long way, and they have authority over legions of alpha males. It makes sense they'd have hot wives.

Enlisted personell jokingly call their wives "dependapotamus" because they tend to pop out a kid every nine months and get fat.

[–]Another1Another1 -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

No offense, but you don't know what you're talking about.

Do you have any extensive personal experience with the armed forces?

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. Much of this mentality is probably a factor of location. Liberal urban centers? Upper middle class populations? Soldiers are presumed to be guys who couldn't cut it at life or get real jobs.

[–]SanchitoQ 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Amen, brotha.

I'm all set with the vapid 18-21 year-olds who bore me to tears. Give me the horny housewife with Billy Beta at home any day.

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

Don't be too sure that this husband will always take her back. I just kicked my wife out for cheating. She had everything, a picture-perfect life - I'm attractive, and wealthy enough that she didn't have to work a day in her life again. Now she has nothing, zero savings, and is already poring over job ads and sending her resume out. She had everything and threw it all away. For what? Because some loser player gave her gina tingles and like a 12-year old she couldn't control herself or understand that actions have consequences.

[–]BradPill 27 points28 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

It's mind-boggling. Remember she needed a year to prepare for the 'most beautiful day in her life'? Spending a car on that day? Telling the whole goddamn world how special it was? How special they were? Maybe even marrying in church, before the witness in the sky? Vows? That contract? All worth nothing, one big lie to herself, to you, her family and the whole goddamn world only for some feels that she at that moment felt she didn't get from you.

I'm sorry for you - but in a sense you should feel blessed (assuming no kids are involved yet). Her loss. Your freedom. Keep well.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

(assuming no kids are involved yet)

Two girls :( I will be doing paternity tests on them soon. Thank you for your comments, it's appreciated, this is a difficult time. I can honestly say I wish it on no man to have to look at his own baby and not be sure if it's his.

[–]BradPill 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry, man. This must really hurt. And yes, that nagging uncertainty.... Still, it's not the girls' fault - can't blame them.... Keep well - I hope TRP will give you the support and insights you need.

[–]whyalwaysm3 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish you the best man, you seem like you have a reasonable head on your shoulders and from what I gather you went about it the right way, you didn't take her back, or beat her physically, you simply got rid of her and that's the only logical way to deal with a cheater in my opinion.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I'd love to know the results. What will you do if they aren't yours?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure :/ ... I know I'll be angry. My current thinking would be to try get her (possibly through the courts if need be) to make the biological father support them. (This would likely be a legally expensive mess.)

My older one I'm very bonded to so I may still want to raise and support her. The younger one is just a baby, IF it's not mine, harsh as it sounds, I don't actually want it.

This may sound 'silly' but I only ever wanted 'my own' kids - I've never had any desire to raise someone else's kids, and certainly not under circumstances like this.

The older one looks a lot like me and takes after me in many ways, so I think she's probably mine. The new baby though looks just like her mother, I don't see myself in her at all, but I don't see any other guy I know either. Also worrying, I was out of town around the time of conception ... though we did have sex before I left and when I got back. So it could be mine, but could be someone else's.

I will try remember to let you know.

[–]DforDeadpool 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not harsh. You don't have to raise some other dude's children. You're doing the right thing. Sorry about hardships you'll go through, wish you the best.

[–]Philhelm 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This may sound 'silly' but I only ever wanted 'my own' kids - I've never had any desire to raise someone else's kids, and certainly not under circumstances like this.

That isn't silly at all. A child that isn't of your own blood isn't truly your legacy. If I were to find out that one of my children isn't really of my lineage, I would completely cut myself out of the previous father-daughter relationship. Actions have consequences.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with your approach. If you already bonded with the older child, she is innocent and it makes sense to keep the relationship. I'd make sure when she got older to explain to her how much of a piece of shit her mother is. Either way, the courts will probably permanently cuck you anyways as bad as that is. I wish the best for you bud.

[–]fingerthemoon 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If you do decide to raise children that aren't yours there could be many problems you haven't considered. Especially under these circumstances.

I wouldn't do it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. Plus, another dude tapped your wife on your dime.

[–]fingerthemoon 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

David Buss said false paternity was about 10% in the US. Robert Sapolsky said false paternity is between 10-40% depending on the country.

That's a minimum of 1 in 10 times she made her husband cuckold. And those are just the successful pregnancies that bare children.

[–]whyalwaysm3 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Damn dude sorry to hear that. If you don't mind me asking, how did you catch her?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Long story short, she was behaving 'increasingly suspiciously', e.g. she'd often go 'visit her sister' or do other things and increasingly she wouldn't invite me. And there were other suspicious signs, e.g. one day she was supposedly with her sister, I couldn't get hold of her, tried to call her sister and couldn't get hold of her either - then very late at night she got back to me and told me 'sorry both their cellphone batteries died' - uh really? Alarm bells were going off in my head like crazy. Another time she was 'with her sister' and I said I want to come join them, she went to lengths to come up with bullshit reasons why I couldn't come. At the same time, she had been increasingly withdrawing intimacy from me. So one night I secretly (she doesn't know this) opened her Facebook and found messages where she was arranging hookups with this one loser player dude in our social group. I screencapped the messages but haven't done anything with them. There's a lot more, but that's the short version.

[–]ELLEN_POO 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

She has nothing? Why couldn't she take half of the assets?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry for you man. You should write a report. I was in a diet variant of you situation aka LTR. We might learn something from you.

[–]abdada 73 points74 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Got a lot of these over the years, and they always talk about your dick being bigger than reality. Always.

Remember: women can't measure.

It's nice being Chad sometimes. And it's proof you did right -- you actually met her needs that her husband can't.

[–][deleted] 109 points110 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My dick is 8 inches when I'm dating her, 9 when I break up with her, and 4 when she realizes I'm not coming back.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 61 points62 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They develop a hooker's repertoire, pretending to gag on your dick to stroke your ego, when you know they could easily swallow an entire loaf of bread. And all that faux modesty and virtue posturing to pretend there's less milage on their cooch...

Just smile and allow them their bluff, but don't ever buy into it.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Remember Feelz > Realz . If her hindbrain sees you as Alpha, you have the biggest cock in the world.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

A woman would prefer a 4 incher and tingles than a cervix thrashing 9 incher without tingles. If men could just realize how much more important emotional pleasure is for a woman than physical, no one would ever worry about their dick size. Unless they have that micro condition, of which i just say the world is unfair.

[–]Eugenics2015 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When girls talk about my dick I just hear bla bla bla bla.

[–]TheDudeMachine 96 points97 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You should go total savage and circle areas of her body that need work with an app, send it back to her with the caption, "Talk to me when you fix this."

[–]setzer_ 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

hahahah and then make a new post with updates on her new and improved body to please you

[–]DforDeadpool 52 points53 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

I remember experiencing something like this when I was pre-RP. I went to Eastern Europe once, to do volunteer work. I was at some lousy rock bar with friends one night. A couple and their infant son were behind us, sitting, drinking and talking. The woman was smoking hot. She was very, very feminine. Seeing most of us are foreigners, she came to our table and started to talk to us. She sat next to me. First I was a little aloof but then I said hi, we started to talk and she was dropping hints. Then she asked for my contacts. Then I've put my hand on her shoulder to take photos. We were kinda feeling each other in secret. Feeling her skin, her scent, seeing her perfect face and slutty clothes she wore.. I was in perma-boner mode. With her husband Vlad the Cuckpaler behind us. Dude was fucking huge by the way, he could've easily beaten me. Instead he just warned me about she was his wife and I said "All is okay bro".

We changed contacts with her, my buddies pulled some girls home and I went back to my hostel. She texted me. She said she was a model, she sent some pics from her shots, etcetera. Wow. Boner-zone. Then she said she wanted to meet me. I said "But, your husband?". She said "Don't worry he won't find out". Then she gave an adress of a cafe which I checked, was real close to some lousy fuck-hotel. Gazillion wows. I couldn't go there because I had to work and we couldn't work it out, but at that time it shocked me how could she do such a thing. If we were to meet, she'd suck the shit outta me, fuck me hard, maybe she'd even make me impenegrate her. At that time, I had the "Some women are like that" mindset so it didn't shake my reality too hard. It was just a knock on the door.

After her, I met with another married chick. She wasn't a stunner or anything, but she was giving heavy IOIs, and probably she was ovulating. She said her husband was out of the town. I fucked her silly. For hours. We did pretty much anything besides anal and I came on her tits and mouth. She didn't spit. After that, I started to think maybe it was more than the foreigner's charm and some women's sluttiness. Was the first time I started to think that something was fucking wrong with women. They possibly threw away their marriage, husbands, children, wealth, happiness, status. For what? To fuck some foreigner dude. Just for that little excitement, little spark, that little feel. And some cock-tickling. Something is really fucking wrong with women.

[–]xBonerDetective 20 points21 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Lollllll.

Yeah, the first one is a common one...in eastern Europe...for extorting foreigners.

She would have taken you to the hotel, "husband" barges in and extorts you, yadda yadda.

Good thing you didn't go 'impregnate' her.

[–]DforDeadpool 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Man, talk about dodging a bullet. I suspected that it could be a scam. That's why I offered a double date, I wanted her to bring a friend and I'd bring a friend too. Then she rejected it with an excuse. But it opened my mind to the nature of women, a scam or not.

And the second one was very real and nobody extorted me. She complained about her life and her husband all night, I didn't give a fuck, then I pulled her and fucked her. Easy peasy. She didn't mention but maybe she even had children back in her home. Gosh. Also I love wall-approaching chicks in Eastern Europe. They do everything for you to fuck them, then they cook for you, they give you massages, they even pay for your cab. I want to visit EE again.

[–]yarow12 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

She would have taken you to the hotel, "husband" barges in and extorts you, yadda yadda.

I was thinking the same thing.

[–]Joseph_the_Carpenter 28 points29 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The worst women are the married ones. Easiest lays ever

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's about being what she doesn't have. It's not just the married ones. If you're highly educated with a good career, find that HB8 dating (not fucking, but exclusively dating) a pot-dealing Starbucks barista. If you're a pot-dealing Starbucks barista, find the sweet girl dating a beta provider.

Married girls are just far more desperate for what they don't have. Imagine you ate chicken breast and mashed potatoes every day for 10 years. Dried pork chops and green beans is a farcry from filet mignon, but it's going to look like a dry aged porterhouse.

[–]DforDeadpool 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's like a joke. They do everything for you to bed them, you just have to be there and not fuck up.

[–]afkb39sdfb 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The worst women are the married ones. Easiest lays ever

This, and they are always the pursuers. You only have to put in a little effort and not fuck it up with beta shit and you're in. The best part is after a month or two they "realize it's wrong" or "can't continue doing this for my family," yadda yadda yadda... Perfect arrangement, the plate leaves on it's own.

[–]fingerthemoon 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The first story about the model with huge husband - she could have been setting you up for her husband to beat you. Women will do this.

Big guy could have been cheating and she wanted to make him jealous to validate her worth. They could have been in on it together because it turns them both on. Her seeing how strong her man is and him feeling powerful. You just never know.

It's also extremely dangerous to mess with a married woman. Most murders happen for this reason.

[–]DforDeadpool 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, might be, even though guy looked too beta to cheat. No matter how you look, it doesn't worth getting beaten (or worse) for a pussy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This. I saw this when i was eight and about half the married women in my neighbourhood who were under 30 were all rumoured to be cucking their husbands.

I can't recall if i ever wanted marriage before then--but i can tell you i haven't wanted it since.

[–]HAESisAMyth 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn...8? Early for the scales to be removed from your eyes.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Women throw nothing away by cheating. Marriage? Who cares about a beta. Children? I get custody anyway. Wealth? I get half of his stuff so it is actually a bonus. Shunned for adultery? He abuuuused me I had to.

[–]DforDeadpool 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I never thought about it that way. No responsibility, no consequences, nothing, then. No wonder they suck and fuck literally every guy who cross their way.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Congrats. Looks like you have your own, real life Alpha Widow. Every time she closes her eyes and blows hubby you know who she's thinking about.

Further proof of the RP rule of attraction. Her attraction to you is inversely proportional to how much you care about her.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 45 points46 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She won't be blowing hubby at all. Hubby doesn't merit that kind of sexual enthusiasm.

She'll have to reserve this fantasy for when she's eating a banana.

[–]VirgoRooster22 points [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

I literally wouldn't have any problem with this except for the fact that the state will make the man lose half his money for her behavior. That's what I can't stand.

Fuck whoever you want. Some guys are ugly motherfuckers who suck in bed. But why the fuck are you gonna make that poor bastard pay for it? It's insane. And women know they can game the system, and their logic is like, "well, there are more male engineers statistically (or whatever), so this guy owes me money for... some reason...?" lol huh? Even if she made more money than her spouse, that'd still be the excuse.

[–]afkb39sdfb 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

the state will make the man lose half his money for her behavior

Some peoples purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others. Don't be him.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

state will make the man lose half his money for her behavior

He knew the deal before he signed the contract. If he pays, he pays.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Her prolactin levels are falling so her body is amping up the estrogen/progesterone, which is fucking with her mind. I don't want to say "it's not her fault" but we all know females are slaves to their biology. Whereas a man might be able to overcome his hormonal urges, a women probably won't.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

I have quite a bit of experience w this, being on steroids. Just recently I spent a month w 0 testosterone in me, still held solid frame, perfect posture, etc. Having 0 test sucks ass cause you are always tired and not having a functional dick fucks with your head, but your mindset is way more important than your hormone levels.

[–]tag2man 2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

0 Test? I'm not well read in steroid use, would you be able to explain how that is possible?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I wasn't able to get access to any for a while. When you take steroids your body stops producing testosterone.

[–]Starcraft_III 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Does the test come back? After how long?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It does, depends how long you were on. Anywhere from 6-12 weeks.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You need to remember to run HCG throughout the entire next cycle

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

...you're gonna tell the mod of the steroids sub how to use steroids?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Unwittingly, yes I did haha.

[–]Schrodingersdawg 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thats why you gotta have your full cycle and PCT before starting. Not worth that month without it, you might as well have stayed off and started later and had more time with natural test levels.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought you could take hCG or something to get your T back up...

[–]1ToSeeAndToHear 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well it's not that it's not her fault, it's that women just shouldn't be held to the same standards you'd hold a man to. It's like if I judged my cat for shitting in a box instead of a toilet.

[–]Bluefire4545 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is the most fucking delusional sub I've ever seen. You cannot possibly think this way? Please for the love of God, somebody tell me this is all some sort of joke? Scrolling through the comments in this thread and they're continually getting more and more autistic. And I genuinely mean that, the way some of these people speak of women as though they're irrational objects whose role is beside a man is befitting an autistic child.

Nobody with any ounce of decency can read a story like this and find any shred of empathy for the male. First of all, the story didn't happen, and second of all even if it did, it's testament to what a douchebag he is. There's no way you guys can root for him on this, this is all just a big ruse right?

What happened to some of these guys that they think of women this way? Some guy said "If only men knew how easy it was to get women..." seriously? How do ANY of you expect to get women with the general attitude presented in this subreddit? What the fuck is this place?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you could refute the accuracy of my endocrinology knowledge, I would appreciate it. You actually sound like the autistic one with your hand-wringing and ad hominems.

[–]Il12829 points [recovered] (11 children) | Copy Link

AWALT She wants what she can't have. All her years of experience have taught her there is no accountability for her actions. She can treat people anyway she wants and she can do anything she wants and everything will be right as rain in her life. Again, AWALT.

[–]well-ok-then 9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm an engineer. My BP marriage ended when my ex wife wouldn't stop flinging herself at a garage door salesman who had no interest in her but would return some of her texts. All I wanted was for her to apologize for it and say she'd stop. All she wanted was for me to not "spy on" or "control" her. She never agreed to not talk to him. A couple times she'd tell me she hadn't talked to him in a week or more. She'd never even SAY she wouldn't talk to him tonight. What's more, she never had a chance with him and I don't think he did anything to encourage her. On some biochemical level, I severely dislike the guy even though I don't logically think he did anything wrong. I was mega BP. In the two years since she moved out she's been slutting it up with anyone who wants a 40-yr old severely overweight and unpleasant woman. Any hint of alpha drives her straight towards guys who are the exact opposite of everything she always said and therefore what I thought she wanted. It disgusts and angers me. And by it, I mean the memory of who I was in the marriage. I would never date the person she is now. If I'd been a man, she may never have morphed into the hambeast she is. And I resent the fucking therapists who sent us down ridiculous rabbit holes of uselessness

[–]plenkton 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It seems the more technical a person's profession, the more difficult it is to understand women.

Women act very different compared to men, which seems odd (by the understanding that both sexes want happy lives).

I used to operate with women on the premise that a relationship provided a base, and a spring board for people to thrive.

A base because of the security.

And a springboard because each would bolster each other to succeed.

But I've learned that it's men's job to lead, and THAT (leading) is what attracts women.

Women don't care if you steal or murder, so long as you provide her security. Its men who care for virtue.

[–]plenkton 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It seems the more technical a person's profession, the more difficult it is to understand women.

Women act very different compared to men, which seems odd (by the understanding that both sexes want happy lives).

I used to operate with women on the premise that a relationship provided a base, and a spring board for people to thrive.

A base because of the security.

And a springboard because each would bolster each other to succeed.

But I've learned that it's men's job to lead, and THAT (leading) is what attracts women.

Women don't care if you steal or murder, so long as you provide her security. Its men who care for virtue.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lessons Learned: Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks

[–]evileddy 19 points20 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Getting women is boring.. catch.. release.. catch.. release..

boooring

I'm now only plating women that approach me and I tell all my female friends "I don't find women who don't make any move attractive at all"

Some of them asked me out.

I reply: "We are good friends.. let's not mess that up. ;)"

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 20 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Normally men hunt and women trap. But when the guy is truly the prize, the women openly compete for him in desperate fashion... Be that guy.

[–]evileddy 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You be that guy too, buddy! ;)

[–]tekn0_ 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He's already that guy. Why do you think he's endorsed

[–]user_none 15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh jeez, the timing of this couldn't be better. Like you, I have an ex coming back and trying for something. She and I started out hot and in love, then it faded a bit, but we stayed as FWB's. Eventually she got into some hard financial times (tough time for me as well) and she found Mr. Beta Bucks. A month after they meet, they're engaged. She hasn't married though...

Fast forward two years and she's texted me from time to time to see what's going on, with me sending back very little in text. Just this week she asks to meet because she's having a difficult time at home and needs to talk with someone she trusts. She also got Mr. BB to buy a house.

We meet at a university coffee/cafe (yay, young hotties everywhere!) and talk. Predictably, she's wanting to know more about me than to discuss her troubles. I try to steer the conversation to her and mostly succeed, yet she's doing her damnedest to probe me for love life type of info. I keep it vague and playful.

We walk outside to get some air and check out the campus, plus to have more open discussion without extra ears around. While walking she brings up a text I sent to her and wanted clarification of my statement, which was "My intentions would not be of the purest." and that's in regards to us meeting. I clarified and told her, no bullshit, that I'd place her in the back of her vehicle and fuck the shit out of her.

I gave her outs, left and right. I asked multiple times about her and the fiance working things out. She had none of that and we rocked her vehicle.

Just today she's asking to come over to my place, and lays it out quite clearly, for sex. She's still living with the fiance...

Branch swinging, AWALT, and all of that.

[–]WishfulTraveler 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You have me hooked, I want to know what she said after you told her you you wanted to fuck the shit out of her in the back of her car.

[–]user_none 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Her reaction was one of surprise that I'd be so direct, yet she didn't immediately dismiss. Instead, she thought about it and made some "Hmm" type noises. I already knew that's what she wanted, but of course plausible deniability...

When we got to her car (SUV with large area in back), I opened her door and told her to get home. She didn't want that and asked for me to hop in the passenger side. I jumped in, we talked for a few, she reaches over and strokes my hair, then in for the kiss. After that, it was off to find a dark section of road and it was on.

It's so cringey to see how she wants to jump, first from me to the current fiance, and back to me. Prior to me, and right out of her divorce, she jumped from another guy to me. Serial monogamist that can't be alone.

[–]Stalgrim 8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

There is a point in this. It's that she wouldn't even dream of thinking of presuming to do this if it wasn't for divorce laws keeping her "in the life to which she is accustomed".

You think after offering to throw everything away like this she wouldn't force her husband into, essentially, servitude to her for the rest of his natural life so she can fuck someone else?

[–]well-ok-then 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

She is NOT thinking that far in advance. It's the other way around. Chicks ARE gonna do this, ARE gonna get divorced, and our white-knight society won't allow them to be poor.

[–]ashurrutia 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's very true. I find the only reason why I haven't cheated on my 8 year LTR, was because every time the opportunity presented itself, I would put the pros and cons of doing it on a scale for the most part the cons outweighed the pros, so I will always prevent myself from getting past the point-of-no-return with a chick. On the other hand when I have asked numerous girls who cheated, if they ever did the same thing once they knew that they might have romantic feeling for the person. The answer was a resounding "no". They always do the whole "pros and the cons" routine after they have already cheated and are trying to decide which guy they stay with. So yup, most of them really do not think that far in advance, is all about tingles and fee-fees of the moment.

[–]eddiae 31 points32 points  (29 children) | Copy Link

this is the perfect occasion for you to have children with her raised by an engineer cuck.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table[S] 97 points98 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

A whore mother and a beta father-figure? My sperm deserve better.

[–]lodro 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's silly. There's no opportunity cost here unless you attempt to impregnate a woman every time you bust a nut..

[–]eddiae 8 points9 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

your sperm ends up in your hands or ejaculated in the toilet, this is a much better use, the kid is going to grow up in a solid middle class family wich means he'll fucking reproduce

[–]oZeplikeo 9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, and you'll never be his real "father." I agree with most tenets of TRP, but why is it that most of you guys have no interest in fathering a son and showing him the path to happiness in our beautiful yet fucked up world?

[–]DforDeadpool 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That would be spiritually fulfilling to raise a son. Even though not that much, raising a daughter would be good too. Yet, the thing is, our desire is to penetrate and impenegrate healthy, pretty women. Think of it like it's a fantasy of your body and your (mostly reptilian) mind.

Let's get real, I'd impenegrate many women if it weren't for the responsibility. Let's say I'm travelling, I'm giving the chicks a false name and a false number and there's no way for me to get an STD. I'd go full-on creampie mode, anybody would. Because it's fun and would give you the man version of the feelz.

[–]PaperbackParrot 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Because its not worth putting up with the [average] mother and [probably] possibly ruining your life in the process.

You are number 1, Always look out for number 1

[–]NotyouG 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why not both spread your seed as far and wide as possible

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Even though that's been the evolutionary imperative for thousands of years, I wouldn't want my daughter to take her example of femininity from that woman, and my son to develop his sense of masculinity through that man.

[–]igrokspock 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

What did the Bible say? Do not cast pearls before swine.

[–]Firespit 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It also says: "[...] Onan knew that the children would not belong to him, so when he had intercourse with his brother’s widow, he let the semen spill on the ground, so that there would be no children for his brother. What he did displeased the LORD, and the LORD killed him [...]"

[–]igrokspock 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Neat, don't care. I'm not thumping here, merely stating an old expression.

[–]1Paid_Internet_Troll 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Don't give pearl necklaces to piggies?

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

this is the perfect occasion for you to have children with her raised by an engineer cuck

Bad idea, considering he's bound to figure this out eventually. And beta or not, engineers are NOT stupid or naive. He'll get a paternity test, find out the kids aren't his, and everyone's lives will be ruined.

I can tell you this also because I'm living this ... just kicked my wife out for cheating, and soon I'll be doing paternity tests on our kids.

Anyone who would deliberately impregnate a woman in a situation like this is a disgusting sub-human speck. The ramifications are huge, you're destroying multiple lives at once, including that of innocent unborn children.

[–][deleted]  (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Impregnating a woman also gets you permanently involved in that woman's life - so it's also fucking dumb. What do you think that woman will be thinking when she lets him impregnate her? She's thinking "Ooh, ooh, now I can get my 'true love' involved in my life, as we'll have a child together, and he will want to be involved in raising the child and come to love me, or I can strongarm him into being involved!"

We evolved in a world without things like paternity tests. So now you need to evolve to catch up with technology.

[–]Five_Decades 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Even putting aside the moral issues of screwing a married woman, with the courts being what they are now the woman can probably sue the real father for child support should she feel like it.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Uhm, wake up, this is the real world. Yes, it makes you a disgusting sub-human speck, I can see your hamster spinning from here trying to rationalize this kind of immoral behavior. Fuck your complete lack of morals - not having morals isn't a good thing, and you should be ashamed.

The kid won't be 'healthy' you dolt, because he'll grow up in a severely broken and dysfunctional home with parents who are acrimoniously at odds with one another, and multiple studies have shown repeatedly that kids in situations like this are less likely to succeed in life, more likely to have health problems, more likely to have mental health issues like anxiety and depression, less likely to be able to hold down a job, and more likely to engage in crime. So yeah, don't even try come up with this 'healthy kids' bullshit - any sane person can see that's a post hoc rationalization.

That husband wants kids who are his own, and I guarantee you he is going to figure this shit out (engineers are intelligent), and ultimately do paternity tests. Then the shit hits the fan.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I see eddiae deleted his comment, so now the context is lost as to what I replied to. He commented to me, amongst other things, "Fuck you and your morals", and attempted to claim it's good for the children because they'll be 'healthy' and 'have a good immune system' (!), and also some nonsense that the engineer will always love his wife and be happy anyway or some-such silliness.

[–]amuna95 2 points2 points [recovered] | Copy Link

How many of you guys would impregnate this chick if you were OP?

[–]MEANMUTHAFUKA 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No way - way too risky. She already sounds like a fucking headcase. No way I would want to mix myself up in that drama. But then again, I already have kids and am done having any more, so I'm biased.

[–]Five_Decades 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hell no, total basketcase. Even if she weren't married the fact that she acts like this is a total red flag. Sex can always be rented.

[–]tallwheel 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck no. The scenario where she cucks her husband is likely enough, I'll admit, but there are other likely possibilities. She might identify you as the biological father and try to come after you for support later, especially after a divorce. Worse yet, she could try accusing you of rape in order to keep her beta husband around. Definitely not worth the risk.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In blue pill terms, you're the "one that got away". Red pill, you alpha widowed her. Point is, she'll always be willing to come back to you, seek your approval and let you have your way. Whether in a relationship or not. Here's my story.

[–]notgivefuck 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Brb getting this post tattooed on my chest so I never get married.

[–]McLarenX 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Marriage is useless now that there is nothing to enforce fidelity. AF/BB isn't a social construct; it's a simple biological behavioral function that exists in every woman's subconscious. Women don't know why they seek both security and the best DNA available for offspring. With the onset of feminism (and there world stating genders are "equal"), they are even further from self-enlightenment than ever before.

[–]Five_Decades 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It isn't just that there is no enforcement of fidelity, there is reward for infedelity. If a woman has an affair she gets 50%+ of her husband's assets and gets to use the kids as leverage since the courts will take her side in custody disputes (and she can leverage that for more money). We are rewarding bad behavior.

[–]JohnBoyAndBilly 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, the lessons here are valid, but the way these stories are written appear to be TRP fan fiction.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

she doesn't feel like a sexual creature anymore. she feels like a mom and she doesn't like it. See also: the sexually aggressive stuff Beyonce put out right after having her kid.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women just don't fucking care. They view men as their playthings that need to give them everything they want. That guy gives her a baby and provision, you give her dick. Female hamster keeps rolling

Now for the love of god can we start looking out for our own best interests. Your LTR gives you baseline sex, other girls give you exciting sex.

[–]Stopher 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Story depresses the hell out of me.

[–]Harry_Teak 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great story, and quite typical sadly. However, I have to disagree with the title. Say you emailed the texts and pics to the husband so he knows what he's funding at home. If he asks for a divorce, she gets the house, car, and easy money in the form of child support and probably alimony. If she's still as attractive as you say, she should have no problem hooking another beta so she can wash, rinse, repeat. She's not jeopardizing much, if anything.

If the guy is so whipped that he doesn't divorce her, well, it's a zero sum game for her. Either way, she comes out just fine.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"As much as that applies to an engineer." What do you do brainiac?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Pardon me on my opinion here, I'm from a country that has been extremely successful for years regarding arrange marriages and women do not do anything like that. It makes me feel skeptical about these stories. Not that I'm pointing out OP or anything but this is in extreme contrast with what I've seen. Could it be the acceptance of cheating and cuckoldry in our society? Men cheat too you know, a lot actually. But what is the radical solution to this shit? We can't all off women as whores since we as men have in one way or the other the same underlying psychology. Why not shame these cuckold women and men the same way intellects are shamed in communist couentries?

[–]Wilter_Amodgego5 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Social status, shame. The only thing that keeps them in check other then a good alpha

[–]ArcadesRed 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And oddly enough, I think its only other women who can pull off the shaming. But they have all become a you go girl crowd.

[–]WishfulTraveler 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You're likely from a country where social pressure acts as a preventative for female hypergammy. The majority of us are from the U.S. where this no longer exists.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I guess this is what scientists feel like when they confirm a theory they'd spent a while on.

Lessons Learned: AWALT? Women are sluts? I don't know, man. Sometimes this shit just smacks you when you least expect it.

You have some confirmation bias. Every modern man who wasn't a complete omega-fag during school has at least one or two of this type of woman in their lives. There are women who stay faithful but A.) they are invisible to us and B.) no one can know for sure who is cheating and who isn't. The stats I have seen say 70% of men cheat on their wives while 50-60% of women cheat on their husbands. Staggering numbers, certainly. American women (and men) can't be trusted. Since when can a godless people keep a sacred vow? Also known as: of course you will find shit in a sewer.

(Various social commentary) There is something to be said for the atomization of society, as well. We don't have communities anymore. Sex and lust are one of the few ways left to feel a human connection. Women suck at friendship but they are still doing slightly better than men who have fewer close friendships per capita than ever before. Add in the disruptive effects of multiculturalism and cut-throat competitive job markets that incentivize people to separate from their social networks to stay employed and we are more isolated and lonely than ever before. Marriage has taken on the extra roles of friendship, confidant, and business partner. It's too much. If one or another area even seem less than ideal the man or woman starts looking for a replacement and we are so trained by commodification to shop around that it just seems natural. We shop for human flesh the same way we shop through an app store, just flipping through an inexhaustible catalog. The more we look the more we want.

The complete annihilation of the consequences of a broken marriage contract for women (men still have financial consequences of course) resulted in more single-mom families. Lacking a father is a sure way to make a woman an insatiable cock-slut as she forever searches for the daddy she was cruelly denied. She searches by the method her culture and biology allows her to search: through sex, one of the few ways to feel connection left in our husk of a civilization.

[–]NaughtyFred 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

after these texts...did you fuck her?

[–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table[S] 14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Nope. She made all these plans and i just went cold. My meat has standards.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

A woman being too desperate for the dick is actually a turn off, at least for me. I'd even go as far as to say it's kind of creepy - I figure it must be what it's like to be a woman, and I sort of empathize with them in that respect.

Even back in my blue pill days I remember this girl messaging me out of the blue and she started talking about "hey I can come over and yea we can go to the store and get condoms and lube" and just being extremely forward about fucking, and I just went ghost after that, it disgusted me and I couldn't handle it.

[–]t_m_1984 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She hasn't risked anything. Her beta will always forgive and take her back.

[–][deleted]  (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Part of me did, actually. But I remembered that he had the chance to get away from this early on yet still chose not to.

These are the fruits of his choices.

[–]Five_Decades 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can see why this would be an eye opener. I don't see how people can get emotionally involved after hearing and seeing so many of these stories.

[–]ioncehadsexinapool 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This makes me sick. I always think I've accepted these things as truths but they still sting when I read them. Am I ever going to be at peace with this?

[–]1Sir_Distic 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

u/meat-on-the-table you had a choice.

To be the guy working some job, pandering to an unloving wife with a kid, for a mortgage, and a life you can't escape or be the person you are right now.

You chose the life that worked for you. I'd say it's the right one.

[–]Ivabighairy1 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

She risks everything she has for .......something ...

That something is YOU.

YOU are the prize.

[–]Cloughtower 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It seems like the marriage and the kid is just the passionless status quo he wants. She's fucking miserable and got used as at best a trophy and more likely just a check mark for his life achievements.

[–]DatAEK971 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've broken up 2 marriages and a bunch or relationships. I don't care really. I seem to be the perpetual other man since I attained golden ratio and wear suits. Women just come to me. It is. Easy.

OP, don't worry to much about it. Maybe bang her out for a bit then ditch.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If I were you I'd have sent these messages, along with a link here to trp, to the husband

[–]nomad-oz 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I had a married Ex as a long term plate She wasn't looking to leave her BB hubby. Passion was missing in their marriage. It became routine and boring with vanilla starfish sex. She had to pretend she was the good girl he married.

I offered the "escape" lover she was seeking. She claimed she didn't want to go slutting around with random men. I provided some light kink and was happy to try her sex fantasies. I also spanked her when I heard she was a bitch to hubby.

Said I kept her marriage together and was the reason she worked to stay in shape. They divorced after the kids left home. She then found another BB and I lost contact.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe you're just genuinely really really awesome.

[–]chadchadington 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yet again, AF/BB FTW.

My personal favorite:

OP: Show me [your body] RM: tingles I'm married. Enter hamster

Female rationalization = damn.

[–]Lanefiger 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There's only one problem with your theory of her jeopardizing her whole life..... She's married. She's got the golden goose! She can do absolutely whatever the fuck or whomever the fuck she wants. The only consequence would be getting rid of her pathetic BB. Cash and prizes galore while ex hubby has to get a 2nd job to support her lazy ass while she takes yet another go round on the CC. The government has effectively weaponized marriage against men and it only serves to strengthen hypergamous behavior. The real surprise here would be if you are the ONLY man getting nude pics from this cockhound.

[–]Muddpup64 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I always wondered what it would be like to call someone like this out. I feel like women like this should be punished for what they've done. What is keeping you from telling her husband? (Serious question)

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I know what makes she risk it and make this illogical decision: hormones. She is horny and turned on by fantasizing about you. Probably she would calm down a bit after a wank.

This said, your story sounds made up as fuck.

[–]GMUwhat1234 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

sometimes I wish asians and other minorities didn't have it on hard mode. NEVER had a girl do this to me. EVER

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

it's posts like these that I save to return to down the road if I ever have a moment of weakness and think there is no such thing as AWALT.

Nicely done OP

[–]penguin_says_slide 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The texts seem very unrealistic to me. Also how does such a well accomplished alpha preach about morality, laws of God and whatever in the end?

[–]ben0wn4g3 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There's no way those messages are verbatim. I'm assuming he's summarising.

[–]Essexal 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That disgust is Steve Carell in The Big Short. He's about to be proved right and make more money than anyone will ever need, but it's at the cost of everyone around him.

If you've not seen it I suggest you watch it, can be a light way of educating people on why 2009 crash happened (and why it may already be happening again).

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

With you all the way until, "the laws of god, line. As for the girl, hopefully it's at least another 2 years until she hits you up again

[–]LerbiTRP -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow man! Good work! You're really good at talking about how great you are. I especially liked the "huge ego, along with other huge things" line!

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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