MetaThe world is scared of men congregating. Red Pill state of affairs 2016 (self.TheRedPill)

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Just days until the infamous Roosh V meetup day, ROK announces that plans have been cancelled for the safety and privacy of members. It's incredible, the media storm that he was able to create. (Side note: there are many who plan to go to the meetings anyhow, and are making arrangements via PM)

I really can't fault him for the play that he made. Some clever statements about rape that could be played off with the plausible deniability of satire, but gaining international attention on the sound bites. He was able to scare feminists and women in every major city, convincing them that big, bad rapists were coming to town to meet, plot and fester in the underbellies of their streets.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if he said this was his plan all along, to get the attention and then cancel. If there's one thing Roosh is good at, it's harnessing the power of the media.

Regardless of the bad rap he has on TRP, I respect him for his work and his strategy with his brand. I can't say we see eye-to-eye, especially on this thoughts of my subreddit, but that doesn't mean I can't respect his strategy and wit. For the Machiavellian among us who see his ends, we could easily take a page out of his book of means.

The subtext of this battle isn't about rape, or the feminist continued narrative that it's the biggest issue facing women today. The real battle is about men who do not seek the approval of feminism, meeting and discussing information that acts as a key to escaping the power feminism holds over them. The very subject of rape is not only a great marketing gimmick, but acts as a badge that says "your system has no sway on me." They identify as the worst thing feminism knows to demonstrate how little they care about it. Like gays owning 'fag,' when society loses control of a group of men via shame, that group of men gains power.

But when gays get together and talk, they talk about equality in marriage. When men get together and talk, they talk about revolution. And that scares women. It scares them because they know, unlike their sisters, men are capable of actually doing something. Every revolution in history, every war and battle known to man was decided and fought by men who congregated.

This is the real threat that TRP poses to society. It is not that we are truly misogynistic, or that we actually support rape. It's not that we're hateful, or that we are potentially abusers.

No, if you listen to each of these complaints against who we are, you will realize quickly that we are not the intended audience for these accusations. Many here participate on a subreddit dedicated to the supposed "rational" debate of these very accusations. (purplepilldebate) To argue it misses the point entirely.

There is no merit to the claims because the claims themselves are intended to shame, to ostracize, and to scare red pillers into conformity. They don't exist because of a logical, thought-out, idealistic disagreement.

The red pill gives a notion of powerlessness to society and the feminine culture. It represents men congregating, plotting, and discussing how to break free of the power over us, to steer our lives how we see fit, and eventually identify as those who are unable to be controlled.

And while we may not be starting a revolution in a classical sense, we are starting a revolution of culture that gives the middle finger to responsibilities traditionally shouldered by men. The number one responsibility having been the well-being of women.

The State of the Subreddit 2016

I realize I'm a bit late with my address to the forum, January came and went. But there's good reason I've been delayed. We've been putting together some massive new plans for TRP that will give us the proper protection we need to ensure the future of our brotherhood.

As I've mentioned, the congregation of men is the biggest threat to feminism (and by extension culture at large), and that makes us a target. We've known we were a target since the inception of the sub, and have only become more aware of this as we gained popularity.

As a target, there are a few problems we face.

  • Trolling has gotten more intense. We've been working harder than usual to stem the trolls, as many of you may have noticed by some of our recent sticky posts, we've had to put together some clever solutions to root them out. We remain steadfast on our policy on trolls, and I'm happy to report that I believe we're doing quite well at keeping their exposure to the sub minimal.

  • Concern trolling has gotten more intense. These guys are a little trickier, because they pose as well-meaning individuals who just want what's best for TRP. They mention that they feel certain qualities are missing from posts, or that moderator actions seem heavy handed and that we should be more transparent for the good of the community. Make no mistake, we will not be letting up, not an inch. The people who liken us to Hitler or claim that our moderation is akin to censorship are nothing but concern trolls. They seek to derail discussion and attempt to make enemies of the volunteer staff rather than help curb the problems the mods are attempting to fix. It is entirely clear to me that these people are here to destroy discussion, and as such will continued to be banned with prejudice.

  • Our future on reddit is unknown. This is probably the biggest variable we've faced since the beginning. With each new round of subreddit banning, the question is raised, will TRP survive this time? The call for our removal is omnipresent in any admin thread, and the justification for it seems undeniable given the social climate. So how long do we have, and what are our options?

Some here may have already know that I've been hard at work ensuring that TRP has a future and that our legacy will not be lost in the annals of reddit history. So we set out to solve a few fundamental issues.

  1. The content, the posts, and conversations taking place here are priceless and should not be lost.
  2. There are very few places for red pill men to socialize openly, without fear of retribution.
  3. There is an enforced signal to noise ratio on our forum as we have strict rules to keep discussion on topic. Unfortunately this cuts down on possible socialization between members who simply want to catch up with each other's progress.
  4. There is no room on the forum for smaller, albeit interesting, pieces of information that are relevant but not necessarily ground breaking.

I started to notice the last three points on this list when I visited the IRC chat room. It was more than the nitty, gritty, cold details of theredpill discussion. It was guys helping each other with workout and diet information, it was chatting about a date from the night before, about personal strategies, and about personal failures and successes. The guys go there regularly for the comradery.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm sure this subreddit has brought many of us sanity when we realized we couldn't discuss these things in real life. It's nice to have the guys here to bounce ideas off of and to connect with. But there was little personal aspect to it, our focus here discourages chatter that does not deliver insight to sexual strategy.

But part of being a man, and becoming a man, is ensuring a positive social circle that encourages growth. We need encouragement and the ability to bond.

For some, a local fraternity is a great option. The promise of Roosh's meetup is proof that men worldwide are in need of role models and friends.

We realized that all of these problems could, and should be solved.

So we've been working on a new platform for the better part of the last two years to solve these issues.

  • First and foremost, the most important aspect of this platform is an archive of our top posts and discussion, in case we get shut down. I didn't just want an html backup, I wanted to be able to switch to a new platform seamlessly without missing a beat. So we wrote a script to emulate reddit's interface, and we backed up the major red pill subs. And it functions fully as a replacement for our subreddit.

  • Secondly, we did not want to leave reddit unless we needed to. Which we won't. The sub will remain here until and if a move is made necessary by reddit admin. One of our strengths is the reddit platform and the ability to reach those who are looking. We will not leave here, nor will the backup boards be opened unless we are forced to. The backup boards will be accessible but read-only until that point.

  • Third, we wanted a platform that allowed members to interact on a more casual level and connect in an environment that was more socially driven and less topic driven. We also wanted the ability to connect with individuals instead of the entire community. We have created this platform and we're excited to unveil it soon.

  • We wanted a way to elevate positive contributions based on merit rather than social standing. Not everybody can have a name like /u/gaylubeoil. So we brought in a board of curators who will be helping us feature high quality posts on TRP and our new platform. The full board will be announced at launch, but it includes such names as Rollo Tomassi, Ian Ironwood, Private Man, Illimitableman, and a number of others.

  • We wanted a way for people to contribute content to our community and be able to anonymously receive thanks from the community, rather than the current setup, which rewards reddit's bank account when we purchase reddit gold. We will announce more about our plans soon, but I liken it to buying a friend a beer, but being able to do it anonymously.

  • We wanted to ensure security, and have spent countless hours pouring over the code and framework to ensure that everybody's privacy will be preserved. Donations by members on our board and IRC have purchased SSL certificates, and security-minded individuals have assisted in code audits. Passwords are one-way salted and hashed, all inputs are CSRF protected, and all inputs are scrubbed properly.

  • We wanted to ensure people could preserve their reddit account if they wanted. The registration system allows you to claim your reddit account as long as you have access to it on reddit.

  • And finally, we wanted to make sure not to change the focus or topic of the main sub. This new platform allows us to expand and extend the conversation without detracting from the original purpose of /r/theredpill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.

We are very close to launching this new platform, so I wanted to address it here today in our state of the subreddit address, to let you know what our plans are and what our future is looking like. Our plan for this platform, when we launch, will work in combination with our red pill subreddit, not take place of it. We're very excited to see what happens. We've worked very hard on this platform and we think it will be a positive addition to our community.

Thanks to everybody who helped. We will announce this platform as soon as our finishing touches are complete. We expect a launch end of Feb/Early March.


[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 50 points51 points  (7 children)

Women expect men in groups to do what they'd do: collectively gang up and exploit the opposite gender. As the gender that needs to receive, they need to wield power and control to continue the status quo.

Men having better access to sex, MGTOW, men sharing stories of shitty female behaviour... men sharing stories of slutty female behaviour (and how to inspire it)... men dispelling the unicorn myth... this terrifies women and rightfully so. Rightfully so because we would very much like to reduce their undeserved privilege and make them earn, make them exchange, make them pay their way or throw them to the curb.

Because their desires are unreasonable and irrational.... they can't just say "we disapprove of this because it is not in our best interests". So they exaggerate the rape angle and shriek about raping murdering men, in the hope to undermine the power of men in groups.

Well sorry ladies... the game is up and TRP is growing and I doubt it can be stopped now. Too much truth, too many anecdotes to back it up, too many people in the know.

[–]hotsweetleather1 7 points8 points  (3 children)

[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

  1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

  2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

  3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

  4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

  5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

  6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

  7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

  8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

  9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

  10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

  11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

  12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

  13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

  14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

  15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

  16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

  17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

  18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

  19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

  20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

  21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

  22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

  23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

  24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

  25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

  26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

  27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

  28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

  29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

  30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

  31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

  32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

  33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

  34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

  35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

  36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

  37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

  38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

  39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

  40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

  41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

  42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

  43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

  44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

  45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

[–]putinbusch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok. I'm gonna have to read this.

[–]2awalt_cupcake 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is this a plan for a "subliminal" war?

[–]zpatriarchy 196 points197 points  (35 children)

i saw plenty of men in the comments there who went to return of kings because they couldn't believe there was pro-rape website & found out that they had been lied to by SJW & their white knight friends. they actually checked out the site, instead of listening & believing. more converts. well played roosh.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 117 points118 points  (22 children)

Most guys have at least the idea in their heads that something doesn't add up. So when they see guys saying stuff that makes sense, they latch on.

Same as when I discovered the manosphere. I had always bought the blue pill way of life. But it didn't add up. When I read people posting manosphere material, it didn't take much convincing for me to realize that this is the explanation for nothing adding up.

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 34 points35 points  (3 children)

This mirrors my experience. I've always been an inquisitive person, and the Internet has made it easier than ever to fact-check a story that seems like it might be bullshit.

I started reading some red pill stuff, and some MRA stuff, and I realized for the first time in my life that it was completely okay for me to want my needs to be met in a relationship. To EXPECT my needs to be met. And to not pretend to have the same needs as a woman. I don't need to be "heard", I need a blowjob and a steak. Finally I came to terms with that and stopped being ashamed of it.

Red pill and the more self-improvement focused aspects of the manosphere have changed my life permanently. I wouldn't say I was ever utterly pathetically blue pill- but I was ashamed of my red pill tendencies. Not anymore.

[–]Endorsed ContributorClint_Redwood 8 points9 points  (1 child)

This was pretty much my exact path to TRP also.

[–]gonorealover 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same with me as well . There were so many things that didnt add up in this society. Something wasnt right . I felt like I was the only guy who thought like this while every male friends saw me as misogynist gay man. Turns out I was right about my gut feeling. Boys are being brainwashed since the moment they first open their eyes. Our own parents , education , government are all part of the indoctrination of blue pill men .

TRP taught to never doubt my gut feeling .

[–]FeeFeeFeaster 33 points34 points  (14 children)

So when they see guys saying stuff that makes sense, they latch on.

100%. You're led to believe that your ideas on modern society & the current behavior of women are archaic ideas and that something's wrong with you. Until a group can come together on a site like this, you won't see how many other guys out there have the same views & experiences.

I had always bought the blue pill way of life. But it didn't add up.

Same. Bought into life as I thought it was supposed to go (all the way to getting engaged) up to my mid 20s. Then found myself saying to myself "something's wrong here." And asking myself "this is what the rest of my life is supposed to be like?" Nope. Got out, doing my own thing, never looked back.

[–]UniversalFapture 1 point2 points  (13 children)

I agree with what you and RPS are saying 100%.

Well, maybe 99.9%. See, I think it's great that we have a group that we can vent to and have the same standing as us, but do we really need to completely banish our old traits when transition from blue to red?

What I mean by that is... Well,I like gaming. I have been playing for a very long time now. I don't want to completely stop doing that. It doesn't interfere with my life and I get out exercise all the time. Most people outside of family don't know I play. That is, unless I tell them. Which is rare. Because I'm more of a lone wolf kind of guy. Which is another personality trait i have.

I think it's nice to incorporate Redpill into your life,but I dont think we should abandon who we are completely.

It makes us... Well, us.

[–]FeeFeeFeaster 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I dont think we should abandon who we are completely.

I can't speak to the gaming aspect in any capacity since I'm not one, but TRP hasn't changed who I am at all. What it has done is solidified the thoughts that were in my head that went against traditional Disney fairy tale marriage/kids, "happy wife, happy life" nonsense that is constantly fed to us as soon as we can interpret the images & sounds from TV, books, and movies.

I was led to believe there was something wrong with me, and I was fine accepting that as long as I was happy because I've always been happier on my own anyway. I found a way to navigate and now I know what's really going on.

[–]Slab_Bulkhead 1 point2 points  (7 children)

I think it's fine to keep gaming. It's actually one of the only ways I stay in touch with some friends back home across the country. More than that, I work in games, so I'm not sure how I could avoid it without losing some understanding of the industry.

But there's definitely a balance to be struck. For me, gaming makes it easy to fall into a rut. It's comfort food for the mind, for sure. Like anything, it comes down to mindful moderation.

I usually don't mention it when I first meet a girl, despite it being literally my livelihood. The only time it's helped me is when the girl's guy friends geeked out about me and gave me a little social proof. Any other time, it's just blank stares, so I save it for later or change the subject.

[–]UniversalFapture 1 point2 points  (6 children)

I don't mention it either. At all. When a lady says she likes gamers she means hot guys who play games.

You can get away with a lot of hobbies if you have high SMV

[–]Slab_Bulkhead 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Heh, that's why I roll my eyes whenever I see the term "sapiosexual".

[–]UniversalFapture 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Erm... ಠ_ಠ

I've never even heard that term before.

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Lots of average girls on dating websites who consider themselves smart often tout this as one of their "qualities".

It's a huge tell of elevated narcissism. The best way to deflect it if it comes up is to ask them if they've rubbed one out to Stephen Hawking. No? Looks like you're full of shit, darling.

[–]UniversalFapture 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Good point. I'm so sick of hearing how this is great and how that is great.

"Great guy" well date him. And then she inserts some excuse as why she can't be with him

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[–]UniversalFapture 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's more of a hobby than a lifestyle. As long as you get your shit done you can do what you want.

I look at I as: if you have time to play, you have time to lift.

As long as my priorities are complete, exercise is done, I'm gonna sit and play. If I don't feel like playing, I'll go sleep. Or talk to a girl. Or watch a documentary. There's plenty of things I like to do.

I'm not stopping. Simply because I don't want to.

But I can if i need to.

[–]rpscrote 2 points3 points  (1 child)

exactly the same for me. Rollo's blog is what I found, and his first year posts opened my eyes. The Rational Male is still IMO the best intro text, though there is a lot of great stuff to choose from these days

[–]rpkarma 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Most men are working from the wrong set of books. We were no different. We are merely lucky that someone handed us the second set...

[–]1DRMMR76 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Yup as I said before, I discovered TRP after being accused of "sounding like one of those red pill assholes on reddit" while on Fark.

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Reminds me of when I used to say "just because I disagree with feminists doesn't mean I'm some crazy red piller".

I'm sorry boys.

[–]zpatriarchy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

i remember fark, that place turned into such a mangina site.

[–]1DRMMR76 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely. One of the problems with that format is that it did force everyone into one giant clusterfuck where unpopular opinions were easily shouted down. Here I can choose to avoid SJW subs and be relatively unscathed (for now). On Fark, if you weren't part of the in crowd (leftism, SJW, Feminst, etc) you were shit and everyone let you know it.

[–]skoobled 6 points7 points  (3 children)

This is exactly why lying can be a poor longterm strategy: be revealed as a liar and your credibility is entirely blown

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also see: Hillary Clinton's campaign

[–]QuantumDeath666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also important is the fact that men have a sense of humour. The article was clear as day to anyone with any common sense.

[–]RealRational 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That's how I came across TRP, someone over in one of the seduction or sex or something subs made a comment about how "evil" this sub was. So I came here and started reading, lol. NOT the result they were looking for.

[–]WhataTreeBark2 16 points16 points [recovered]

haven't been a fan of the mod posts but good shit

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[–]frogstud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We get erections not because its easy but we do it because its hard

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 100 points101 points  (46 children)

Roosh is a funny guy. He's actually kinda ugly, and comes across as one of those weird nerdy types who over-thinks this gender/relationships thing way too much and obsesses about it.

But as dumb-ass as the shit he writes can be, Roosh is not a dumb man. In the span of a week, he went from mildly internet-famous in small circles to being on the nightly news in my city. And many other cities. And all he had to do is post extreme shit about rape and misogyny on the internet, then write that he was organizing a bunch of meetings that he never actually intended to occur or for anybody to attend. The whole point of this fiasco wasn't the meetings -- it was the backlash he knew would happen. He'll ride the wave of "Men can't even gather in peace and discuss unpopular thoughts without being stoned by feminists and the government" for a few months.

What's sad, however, is that the quoted statement above is actually true.

Men that talk about the shit we talk about are a threat to women. Because society is a fragile house of cards. We're conditioned to do and refrain from doing certain things by laws, socialization, financial incentives, and other incentives. But there are deviants. Extreme examples include broken men who say "fuck this" and go rape people or shoot up universities. Less extreme examples include men who figure out ways to game the system.

But the system is where women get their power, or at least the illusion of it. They have power because men play along, but any hour, any minute, any man might just say "fuck this" and stop playing along. Possibly in an extreme way, possibly in a less extreme way. That's the big secret they don't want you to know. Women remain, and always have been, under the power of men. And there's this fragile house of cards society has built to provide the illusion that this is not the case. But any random man could break any one of them if he really wanted to -- the only reason he doesn't is because for now, he's chosen to play along. If a stiff wind knocks the house of cards over, shit's gonna get bad for women.

[–]2Archterus 22 points23 points  (17 children)

Right on Archwinger. Men in general are actually unaware of the degree to which we do have power. If the discipline can be harnessed to focus on oneself, as the core driving ambition, and that pussy will be a consequence amongst many other desirable outcomes, then we can really shake the system. As has been said elsewhere, it is not just feminism that is the enemy, it the betas that are so indoctrinated they have no fucking clue. Just this week I overheard a conversation between some twenty something year old men asking ' who is this Roosh guy', and ' the people that turn up should be profiled by the police" No. Fucking. Clue.

Many thanks to the mods, EC's and all those that contribute. A life changer for me.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 27 points28 points  (16 children)

Feminism is the enemy regardless of how you look at it. Those beta males you are talking about are just male feminists and they're far worse to deal with than female feminists because they'd stab each other in the back to get a whiff of pussy and throw themselves on a grenade to be seen as the 'nice guy'.

This is why I say TRP shouldn't demonize MGTOW as much as we do. At the very least men who have consciously made the decision to MGTOW have chosen their sexual strategy and that strategy is not to play the game. At the very least those guys have decided not to be used as tools by women.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 19 points20 points  (2 children)

MGTOW gives us more power. I embrace it.

[–]2Archterus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Agree with that. If I were to become single I could definitely see the point of MGTOW, particularly as I am in the 50 age group with adult kids.

[–]formergreekbradley 20 points21 points  (3 children)

He's actually kinda ugly, and comes across as one of those weird nerdy types who over-thinks this gender/relationships thing way too much and obsesses about it.

As much as I disagree with some of the things he says, for a guy in his late 30s he is not bad looking at all (obligatory no homo). The average 30 something guy is fat, bald, and aging like shit while Roosh could easily pass as a 20 something. Forney on the other hand.....

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 34 points35 points  (1 child)

I only see guys in the top 20 percent.

[–]1mr_nate_ 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I believe that he did intend to have these meetings, but you're right in that he recognized that if the day came where these meetings could not occur, it would only mean a mountain of publicity and exposure, and therefore a larger user base. He has gone to great lengths to privatize the meetings and exclude the general public about knowing the whereabouts of the new locations over the past 24 hours. This was a win-win situation for Roosh, and feminists decided to give him the bigger win.

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

there's male only barber shops opening up in the UK and canada, it's starting already

[–]causemose 1 point2 points  (7 children)

I highly doubt he meant to do this. Getting shamed on the internet by the media/SJW/feminist PC conglomerate is the 21st century version of Chinese water torture. If he did mean to create this shit storm, I guarantee he regrets it.

That being said, it probably is going to grow the community because enough authentic males can cut right through the media's bullshit. But it seems the % of rational thinkers gets lower every day.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 21 points22 points  (6 children)

Are you kidding? We hide behind the anonymity of the internet because it's common knowledge that there's a sizeable body of people out there that would get you fired and destroy your relationships if they knew who you were in the real world. All because you post unpopular thoughts on the internet. Roosh knows that.

He knew damn well there was no way in heck he could post an address, date, and time, on his publicly accessible website, for a meeting among his readers and have anybody show up. Because even if the people who show up don't get harmed or there's not a huge protest and fiasco, they'll be identified by others who will then get them fired and ruin their relationships. Hell, you could meet me at one of these gatherings, and I could tell you I'm Archwinger, but for all you know, I'm just some guy off of the internet pretending all that so I can learn your real name or some other identifying information and get you fired for being a bigot.

There was no way any of these meetings could ever succeed. Like a zero percent chance. But a 100% chance that there was going to be some kind of massive backlash and notoriety protesting these events, as long as Roosh kept pretending he was serious about them up until the week of, when he could just "cancel" them.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

I was going to show up and tell everybody I was RPS. Nobody would believe me anyway.

[–]Uptonogood 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I find it funny that they think of us a bunch of fat neckbeards, being that lifting is one of the core tenets of TRP.

Actually I would go as far as to say you're not really TRP at all if you don't lift, or at least do some some serious sporting activity.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Does walking to my classes count? Lol I understand the push for physical activity, it keeps the mind healthy too with serotonin, but some comments here are borderline bodybuilding forum.

[–]causemose 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Fair, but do you think he's actually enjoying the millions of people who are ruthlessly attacking him? I have people on my Facebook who I would not have previously classified as "White Knights" or "Feminists" saying extremely slanderous things about him. He has created an opportunity for these types to come out of the woodwork and grow their own "PC" community. It's easy for an outsider to think you can just phase out this type of online mob attack and be happy knowing he has the power to insight hate. But realistically, if you are getting constant death threats, family threatened, twitter spammed with abhorrent insults, your neighbors looking at you a different way... This type of stuff cuts deeper than you may realize.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yes, I do. I get a little chubby every time somebody mentions "Archwinger" on the internet, even in a negative light.

Roosh is an internet troll. He fans the flames, says extreme shit, cultivates a cultish following, cultivates an even more cultish following of haters, and enjoys all of the attention he gets from his internet hobby. When was the last time hundreds of thousands of people rushed to protest something you pissed out of your keyboard on to the internet, while a dozen cities had a segment on you in the nightly news?

I'm not saying this guy is necessarily wise or productive, but come on. Some douchebag from Poland went from an absolute nobody to a dude with a small internet following to a dude getting talked about on the news, all in his spare time typing shit at a keyboard. It's a rush. "Archwinger" has more google hits than my real name, and all Archwinger does is piss out crap on the internet in his spare time.

[–]lycanthr0py 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Feminists in Europe will understand when they personally reap the fruits of the "refugees" they brought in via Islam..

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

its not that far fetched to think they want to reap the fruits, or better yet, the seeds of the rapefugees

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

the seeds of the rapefugees

I love this place

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[–]truthyego 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Under the Constitution, the government was never supposed to "own" or have title to land, much less allodial title. The founders intended that the govt would merely be custodians until a Citizen purchased the land. There's a small but growing movement of People who are obtaining patent title (allodial title) to their land; which is a good step in attempting to restrain govt excess, and reclaim Sovereignty.

The United States Corp is a criminal corporation who assumes and presumes allodial title to all lands in the geography of the 50 states, of which they have no proof; and also presumes chattel ownership of all the persons who are franchises of the same corporation (aka US citizens). This is how they are able to completely disregard the constitution and the rights of People; because their (fradulent) claim is that we are voluntarily participating in their corporation.

There was a time - though brief - where at least some people were Sovereign. The US Corp is terrified that the People will wake up, cancel their corporate franchise citizenship, and become Sovereign again. Then their legal claim of maritime and admiralty jurisdiction goes out the window; and they would be forced to obey the common law and equity once again.

[–]hva_vet 41 points42 points  (6 children)

This place is like a virtual old fashioned barber shop. Men need a place like this to congregate and talk about guy shit. I'm not gonna lie, this subreddit pulled me out of a mid life crisis funk. I was completely losing my shit and now I'm stronger than ever with a new outlook on life. I can only say thanks to this community and I hope it lives on for a very long time in one way or another.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 9 points10 points  (5 children)

Barber shop or local bar.

I've positioned myself so that I'm in an area where I can be friendly with other guys at the local bar and have real discussions about the real world. I know the owner of the bar and he's old school masculinity and enforces that standard at his bar which includes his pick of bartenders.

But there is another bar in the same town run by a young Politically Correct couple and they heavily enforce the PC codes. It's really sickening.

So what Red Pill males need to do is be very conscious about the bar they go to. Don't always think in terms of whether there is a great piece of ass there because sometimes the better Red Pill experience is not the hottest place in town.

What happens is there becomes a kind of filter and the spoiled females will try a Red Pill bar and not get treated as if they were of a higher position. They then decide if they like masculine men or not and are willing to play the feminine role and have fun with it.

The Blue Pill public places should also be avoided because you are funding the wrong things. Every dollar you spend in a PC situation works negatively towards a Red Pill outcome. Don't reward it.


[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

local bar.

I always found that as more of a cathardic space for men to vent. Hell, the enlightenment happened when people stopped going to ale houses, and started going to coffee shops. They had a lot of women shitting on it too, but they were too busy on a mission

[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Starbucks is today's Blue Pill space.

A bar with just enough masculine chaos to keep the PC people away is ideal.

The bar management needs to know their identity, so if it's a Red Pill masculine bar that is usually well known.

Toby Keith - I Love This Bar - YouTube



[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I wouldn't equate chain coffee with the birth of the enlightenment. I'm pretty sure those thinkers weren't ordering frappachinos.

Either way, it isn't about the coffee, you have a solid point there, just abrasive enough to be feminine unfriendly

[–]idiocraties 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Apparently it did, as for the first time people were meeting and talking without being three sheets to the wind. Sane and productive debate followed, rather than drunken hooting and hollering.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm talking about starbucks. I'm pretty sure coffee houses just served it black, maybe some cream

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 30 points31 points  (7 children)

I laughed so hard when I was reading my local news, and saw there was a warning from the police that a "rape group" associated with the infamous Roosh V might be congregating in my area. The report warned women to stay away from the event, because they "might be in some sort of danger."

This is how you know the feminism has society by the balls. Look at the blind panic these guys were able to stir up just by saying "hey, let's meet and talk."

[–]prodigy2throw 27 points28 points  (3 children)

Fact checking is a thing of the past. You can post whatever rage porn you want these days and people will eat it up. I tell women I'm a part time male model and they buy it. I have thinning hair and an acne scarred face. And I'm short as fuck. People these days want to be lied to.

[–]EdmondDaunts 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This idea of not actually going and getting the original material is something that's become epidemic. You see it with Donald Trump as well. People don't stop, read and cogitate. What's the point of nuance and context of it can't fit into 140 characters or less. Idiocracy is truly upon us but without the Starbucks handjobs.

[–]prodigy2throw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If there's anything I learned in college it's citations citations citations.

Cite your motherfucking sources!

Credibility and evidence are things of the past. It's all about what sounds 'right' and feelz

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 5 points6 points  (1 child)

What I don't understand is that if the feminists are concerned about groups of rapists congregating, why are they trying to show up to these events?

Oh right. Feminists....

[–]apackofwankers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

on Facebook, i have been posting roosh's original "how to stop rape" article on every "rape advocate" posting. Most people, even rabid feminists, see that its both satire and nuanced, and far from rape advocacy.

[–]IRC Mod-Anteros- 72 points73 points  (1 child)

Thanks for posting this, and the work you've been doing RPS. It is clear after the events with Roosh and the SJW onslaught that there is a concerted effort to stop young men from putting themselves first and living prosperous lives.

The platform we're developing is going to provide a secure, fast, and rewarding environment for everyone involved, from the new guy who has never heard about hypergamy to the seasoned veteran describing demographic differences in sexual strategy. We also want to make it a more personal than the reddit platform by creating user profiles (yes, they have max lift entries) and an easy way to let everyone know how you are fairing. Every other group in the world can communicate about these things in public, but make one allusion to the threesome you had in college and you're a pariah. Not here.

This is going to be something great if we put our minds to it.

"God damn it, an entire generation pumping gas, waiting tables, slaves with white collars, advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need."

[–]diomedes777[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is fucking awesome. Thank you so much.

[–]Trpidation 7 points8 points  (0 children)

When men get together and talk, they talk about revolution. And that scares women. It scares them because they know, unlike their sisters, men are capable of actually doing something. Every revolution in history, every war and battle known to man was decided and fought by men who congregated.

This is something I've been focusing on lately. With the demonizing of masculinity, more and more men fail to make any kind of difference or do anything. Men of our society are more like women than they are their own gender. This is what has kept men throughout the rise of feminism, it's created a bunch of men who do nothing but talk - they won't actually do anything about the talk. So when women see a group of men who actually fucking do shit, it's going to cause fear. And it absolutely should. They see our potential for creating great change and progress, which means they lose their "power". Funnily enough, the only power they have is the power that we as men give to them and allow them to have.

But part of being a man, and becoming a man, is ensuring a positive social circle that encourages growth. We need encouragement and the ability to bond.

I am beyond stoked about this. One of the most difficult parts for me in my quest to swallow the pill has been the lack of dudes who share the same mindset to all spur each other onwards and upwards. Together our power increases exponentially. But when you have a bunch of bitch-men who don't even understand what brotherhood means, there's not much togetherness to be had. Super excited for this.

Overall, I'm optimistic and stoked to see where these updates take us. The bubble's going to burst soon, boys, we're about to see great things happen.

We're all gonna make it brahs.

EDIT: wanted to also give a huge thank you to the mods and major contributors. Your work for this sub as well as for the male gender is fucking unprecedented. Thanks for all you do. You've changed my life, and countless others.

[–]RedSugarPill 63 points64 points  (2 children)

I'm not going to lie, reading this post gave me a little bit of an erection.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 102 points103 points  (1 child)

I would be lying if I said I wrote it soft.

[–]ANGRY_ATHEIST 33 points34 points  (32 children)

It's getting pretty bad out there, there have been death threats. I've even seen groups say the "hunt is on" for Roosh. I've banned TRP terms among friends in public (I feel even a friend causally using a term like "shit test" could brand me a rapist among the SJWs). I don't even talk about it anymore, if anything I pretend to be BP now when needed just to keep the peace.

The first rule of fight club is...

[–]pilledwillingly 25 points26 points  (15 children)

Dude - I didn't even know about this until last night. I hanging with my acrobatics friends after a session and one of the girls says "Did you hear about that 'Return of the Kings' thing?" and the other one says "It's not return of THE kings, that's what I thought it was when I first heard of it, like it was a lord of the rings thing, but yeah, dudes who want to legalize rape having a meetup."

My whole body went stiff, really blindsided me as the first time someone outside of the internet mentioned it.

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Thats crazy.

Not as good as yours but: I was blown away when some girl that I used to sit next to in the library at uni 5 years ago posted a link to the lgbt subreddit about these 'pro-rape' meetups. Ive never seen anyone post reddit on facebook before. Seeing a girl like her doing it was especially weird, seeing an obscure subreddit was weirder, and seeing it talking about theredpill was crazy. I've been here since this sub was 5k subscribers.

The manosphere, returnofkings, theredpill : they've all hit mainstream. Top trending news on BBC was about this stuff. This is the pendulum swinging! Tonnes of men are going to find these ideas.

[–]Uptonogood 4 points5 points  (1 child)

This is the biggest advertising TRP could hope for. I just don't know if we ought to seek any advertising at all. Too much at stake.

[–]ANGRY_ATHEIST 7 points8 points  (11 children)

"Never heard of him. He said what? Sounds like someone who's not worth my time..."

[–]pilledwillingly 25 points26 points  (10 children)

Man, you're not wrong - Shutting the fuck up is one of the toughest things I've ever done and I'm doing it so much recently. I'm a university freshman this year (at 29) and I've just run through my orientation week list of optional events: "Are you more Donald Trump or Emma Watson on gender equality issues." "Counselling and welfare chillout zone." "Women's gathering and safe space." "What people don't understand about Muslim Feminism."

I'll write my dissertation on 'shutting the fuck up' since I'll be an expert.

[–]GnonSequitur 13 points14 points  (8 children)

You guys absolutely must learn to fuck with these people.


STFU is a neutral response. Better than losing frame. Worse than displaying how strong your frame is.

Here's what we do: We troll. We troll the shit out of them. We agree and amplify. We pressure flip. We don't give away our positions by arguing logically; we use amused mastery to disarm everything thrown our way. We win the war by having a large enough portion of our men refusing to even take these topics seriously.

Here's how we should be dealing with some feminist rape-hysteria promoter:

EG. "Ghengis Khan raped practically the entire continent of Europe, but I think we can all agree that Genghis Khan was a total badass."

Followed up with misdirecting the conversation to how much of a loser she is for not liking Genghis Kahn, and then sly winks to other people, obviously enjoying yourself, etc etc etc...

Reporter: "You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs, and disgusting animals."

Trump: "Only Rosie O'Donnell"


99% of politicians would have gotten sunk by this question. We must all be Trumps in our own lives. That's how Feminism will get destroyed.

Woman: "What are you doing for the women in America today Mr. Kennedy?"

Kennedy: "Well I'm sure I'm not doing enough."


These are the types of men we need. We must each be this type of man.

[–]pilledwillingly 19 points20 points  (7 children)

Nope - my life is too busy to make a name for myself and fight in some grand crusade for masculinity. I'm going to smile, nod, go on my merry way, and keep my head down. I've sacrificed enough in my life to get into this course, I'm here to get out of the backbreaking physical labour I've done for the last 7 years and get a job in a field I enjoy - fighting feminism doesn't get me any closer to that goal.

[–]GnonSequitur 3 points4 points  (4 children)

I've sacrificed enough in my life to get into this course, I'm here to get out of the backbreaking physical labour I've done for the last 7 years and get a job in a field I enjoy.

Careful, this mentality reverberates throughout your life in ways you don't even realize. Your life is not to busy to learn how to deal with shit tests. Your life is a shit test.

"Smile, Nod, Keep your Head Down" - could be the title to a book. Dr. Phil's guide to a dead bedroom and a lackluster life.

[–]pilledwillingly 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I can deal with shit-tests, I don't need your help, I don't need your quips or one-liners to get me through the day. What I'm telling you is I'm not paying $100,000+ to be a social pariah and hamstring myself in every interaction with professors and industry professionals who don't think the same way I do, my time is too valuable for that.

Nobody is stopping you from opening your smart mouth when you're in a classroom full of liberal feminists, or when you're being questioned by the police, or when you're standing eye-to-eye in a club with a dude who thinks you're hitting on his girl. You can be a smug little shit with something smart to say in every situation and waste time dealing with how it burns your arse, while the rest of us will assess the value of the interaction and walk away from it.

I have more important shit to do.

[–]SullenBarLurker 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I like both your points yet think you might just be arguing over situational use of each. Head down responses for strangers and superiors, amused mastery and agree and amplify for everyone else is how I handle it. Only bet what you are willing to lose.

[–]NecroticFury 1 point2 points  (1 child)

you're just weak. this is a battle you'll have to fight one way or another whether you like it or you dont.

you know what my grandfather said about the holocaust? "First they joked about us. Then they blamed us. Then they took away our right to defend ourselves. Then our rights. Then our lives."

[–]catacamas 3 points4 points  (0 children)

George Orwell said, "In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act" ... we're in grave danger if it's reached the point where merely criticizing feminism can threaten your livelihood, to the point that most people toe the line out of fear.

[–]1thiasus 24 points25 points  (1 child)

there have been death threats

You can go on any of the feminist subs and read death threats right now. Admin intervention is not forthcoming because bashing in 'rape apologist' skulls is legal in the Feminist States of America.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (9 children)

I wouldn't worry about it. Internet death threats have a 99.999% survival rate.

[–]Blu37empest 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It has literally been eating me alive seeing all of the White Knights on my facebook making threats of violence.

[–]siriusisness 5 points6 points  (0 children)

now you know which friends to cull - every cloud has a silver lining :)

[–]NecroticFury 0 points1 point  (0 children)

perfect chances to laugh and troll. they are so blue they wont even realize when they're being insulted.

[–]J_AsapGem 4 points5 points  (2 children)

The thing that has me, is how can the media blatantly lie and twist what roosh has said? it's freaking mind blowing how fucked up this world has gotten over the years, absolutely disgusting.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's not that they are any worse, only a bigger megaphone.

remember, he didn't come out of the gate with flying colours, saying that he stopped 1% of star wars revenue as if it was a victory. Wasn't taken very seriously there, and got much more publicity on TV than this did

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 27 points28 points  (11 children)

Thank you for the staggering amount of work you're putting into maintaining and expanding this community. After reading your state-of-affairs, it is clear that you care tremendously about the community and its goals. Looking forward to seeing the new platform.

I've always disliked the authoritarian nature of feminism. Their heavy-handed tactics for silencing dissent is reminiscent of 1984 where certain thoughts or words are not allowed to be used. If you dare mention an idea that isn't approved, you're going down, even if you're the president of a prestigious university or a Nobel laureate.

Of course we can't just ignore the feminists because they are in bed with the government. This cartoon by Ben Garrison title "Useful Idiots", commissioned by Sargon of Akkad, sums up why nicely.

And now here we have a community, 140k strong, of people discussing those thoughts that are not allowed to be thought, those subjects that are not allowed to be mentioned, and those ideas that are "obviously wrong to any sane person". The standard tools of shaming and tears don't work on us, so they look to authority again to try to stop us, and the only reason we're still around is because of individual liberties and free speech. Hopefully we'll be able to find the tools to survive in an environment that is increasingly hostile to politically incorrect thought.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Well if there is one positive thing about feminazi bullshit is that people are rapidly growing sick of political correctness.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

it's probably the #1 reason there will be a trump/sanders general election.

Might just be the Vader(PC) throwing the emperor off the cliff moment

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Yep I'm hoping people will see that electing a black man didn't do jack shit so they'll figure why elect a woman, it's going to be the same.

At least that will save us from all the horrible feminist policies that hillary will introduce.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

the whole 'savior' thing needs to go. even the trump supporters are doing the same thing as obamas did.

elect the right guy, and he will fix my problems. the complete shirking of civic responsibility, and they deserve what they get when they aren't represented. Trump won't be any different I'm betting. it's just a different flavour of the benevolent slave owner.

Thats the one thing I find sanders has over most. He admits he isn't the second coming of jesus, and that even after he's elected, you still have to get your ass in gear and grease the wheels. Trump asks nothing of the citizenry, and people are pinning their hopes on him, same as obama IMO.

It's just too bad, because he has the leadership and persuasion down, just missing the holding his voters to task, though that would probably tank his popularity.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Trump won't be any better than any recent presidents or presidential hopefuls... But I have a feeling he will be more entertaining to watch in action given he doesn't toe the Political Correctness line like everyone else does.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're missing the point. Every election,,, someone promises hope, and never delivers. Potus isn't a magic wand, nor will he be neo.

Trump isn't the bogeyman the left thinks, he's actually pretty left in a lot, definitely not neocon. But he isn't going to reverse 40 years of globalization in 4 years, people still have to hold their congressmen governors and house to task.

It's the one thing that I've heard from Bernie that no one's said since the 60s... Regardless of who wins it's pretty important that people don't think that their job is done after November.

Also not free, but prioritized in the budget. It's no more free than Medicare or defense is.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with this 100%.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table 15 points16 points  (1 child)

The female need to insert herself into male spaces is really the basis for a lot of shit that we see. When the feminist doctrine of equality is proven false, they resort to whining and ad hominem attacks to ensure that the barriers of entry are adjusted to allow them to participate.

With government sanctioned authority, the derail sensible men's movements by labeling them hateful and making themselves out to be victims. When that fails, and there is no recourse to allow them to infiltrate men's spaces and redirect the cause, their only option is an attempt to destroy the space completely.

Case in point, ROK and this place.

[–]FeeFeeFeaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The female need to insert herself into male spaces is really the basis for a lot of shit that we see.

I'm linking to a TRP post from a while back regarding Men's Sheds.

[–]memphisjohn 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I just watched the Roosh press conference... damn I love that guy... this video needs to be on the sidebar.


[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was entertaining.

[–]rigbyismyhomie 9 points9 points [recovered]

What Timing.

I'm still new, but I'm learning. I feel better. I have a purpose. And I have this group of people to thank for it.

But I never realized the opposition we faced until this last week. Twitter is curated, so I'm pretty insulated, but my Facebook was blowing up. First it was the "Pro Rape Protests" being organized by people I know, where they threatened to beat men who came while also giving out warnings that those attending are "extremely violent, maybe armed, and have been instructed to attack anyone who questions them." Seriously? The logic bends and snaps within the same breath. Then, when anyone, anyone, questioned the narrative, they were ripped a new asshole. Thank god for Rule 38.

So, I have to fight against the idea of any personal, semi-open meetup of us. Yes, men need each other, and our society drives us apart. Maybe it's the feminist imperative, but I think it's also some of our own doing. Nevertheless, while I hope that the day comes where we can meet without fear of retribution, in my mind a cultural shift is going to be necessary to effectuate it.

Thanks, as well as to the rest of the mods, for your work. Having an escape plan will be necessary; especially after the problems reddit's leadership experienced just over the last year. It's not far fetched to assume that we have an expiration date. The improvements on the new platform sound great as well.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Men will congregate together. We will not however show up for one of these witch hunts.

The best way to congregate would be to start man-only gyms and flip the script. Not every man appreciates being ogled like eye candy for women as they work out. Perhaps it would be better to have a gentleman's club where members are only invited by existing members so that way you can keep women out. The freemasons have been doing it for quite a while and you know that might be a decent place to start out connecting with your fellow men too possibly. Though not many of them are going to be red pill men or MGTOW or other manosphere types.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would have said 'for a distraction free lifting environment' where you get a ban for curling in the squat rack, chalk is OK, and no drinking protein shakes on the floor

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Do you hear the people sing? Singing the song of angry men

[–]Uptonogood 4 points5 points  (2 children)

It is the music of a people Who will not be slaves again!

[–]Manducor 2 points3 points  (1 child)

When the beating of your heart, echoes the beating of the drums

[–]libglip 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's a life about to start When tomorrow comes!

[–]1mr_nate_ 8 points9 points  (7 children)

I was planning on attending Roosh's meetup in an unnamed southeastern U.S. city — and even bringing two friends. All was well until I ventured online yesterday only to witness the filthy lies propaganda perpetuated by feminists, thereby feminists in journalism, and thereby politicians.

I do not actively follow Roosh, but I find much of the material posted on Return of Kings useful and closely related to our material here at TRP. This attack against Roosh was NOT ONLY an attack against Return of Kings — this was an outright denial of ANY man's rights who stands up to the feminist imperative. And they "won" this battle to a certain degree. I can only hope Roosh's announcement of cancellation was made to protect those attending the international meetings by creating a false sense of security for opposition forces.

If anything, this entire, chaotic situation can serve as an example of how FEARFUL the West is of men learning the truth about gender dynamics and finally acting upon these realizations by moving from a perceived state of "weakness" online to a position of concealed power in real life.

Repeating Ghandi's line, which has been tossed around here more than once: "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." While we are undoubtedly far from winning, events like these push the world to change. I can't wait until the next meetup.

[–]RedSugarPill 2 points3 points  (1 child)

"And my friends, in this story you have a history of this entire movement. First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. And then they attack you and want to burn you. And then they build monuments to you." - Proceedings of the Third Biennial Convention of the Amalgamated Clothing Workers of America, 1919

[–]RP15 8 points9 points  (1 child)

On the contrary, we've already been ignored. We've already been laughed at (virgin neckbeard, etc).

Now begins the fight.

[–]RedSugarPill 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"And my friends, in this story you have a history of this entire movement. First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. And then they attack you and want to burn you. And then they build monuments to you." - Proceedings of the Third Biennial Convention of the Amalgamated Clothing Workers of America, 1919

[–]RedMoonAscendant 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Weird you're being downvoted like crazy. Is it considered concern trolling or saying RedPill is about something?

[–]1mr_nate_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No idea, but we may have an increased amount of Blue Pill lurkers due to the manosphere attention. Plus newbies may "no understand."

[–]NecroticFury 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he does neither of those things so there is no inherent reason to downvote, maybe not all people on TRP agree with each other?

[–]Kalepsis 2 points3 points  (14 children)

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 13 points14 points  (9 children)

Lol. This gave me a good laugh. The girl on the right, certainly sub 100 lbs is no more than 16 yrs old. The others? The 'toughest' looking ones? 130-140lbs? What a joke.

The media and society has upheld the delusion that women can compete with men physically by not ever allowing them to experience men's violence. If their was no risk of jail time, and they chose to battle the ROK meetup, those women would die against half their numbers. It would be embarassing.

This is a perfect example of "women are children".

Yes, darling, you would definitely kick those bad guys' butts.

[–]RedSugarPill 2 points3 points  (8 children)

And yet you're getting downvoted here, because you hurt someone's feelyngz.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 9 points10 points  (7 children)

This was just apart of a mini downvote brigade on my posting history caused by a false accusation (edit 91 upvotes) from /u/ThalesToAristotle in the blue pill sub to smear my name.

They just hatin. I think my writing has given him tingles. Libel may be his desperate attempt to get my attention.

[–]RedSugarPill 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Classic. Once you're in their sights, it's hate until they get bored/find another target. I think it's an addiction.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Wow, look at him go. That's some dedication right there. /u/ThalesToAristotle most definitely has the boners for me. It's almost flattering.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It's fascinating they have nothing better to do.

[–]Uptonogood 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wow, What a fucking loser. His post history is nothing but trying to fight TRP, Dude's obsessed with us. If we're a bunch of losers, what does that make someone who cant stop thinking about us?

I almost pity him seeing a such a sad, nothing but a shell of a person like that.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you know you've started living an RP life when you are linked on the blue pill.

Nice to see how large the club is getting.

[–]iLLprincipLeS 4 points4 points [recovered]


That way when Roosh did what he threatened to do — take photos of any female protesters who showed up to dissect and criticize online later — he'd actually be snapping photos of badass bitches in boxing gloves.

Yeah. Yeah. That sounds intr.. AHAHAHAHA.

Just look at them: http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2016/02/04/04-toronoto-newsgirls.w529.h352.jpg


. .

... the blonde could prove useful for a few rapefugees rounds tho. Good find.

[–]WhySoRuff 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Look at their faces, not a feminine looking one in the bunch. They don't even realize they are the pawns for feminist shot callers and Roosh.

[–]Coolbeans024ptf 3 points3 points [recovered]

Modern men are a sleeping giant collectively, you can spend decades legislating the power of men away from them and handing it to women while at the same time creating a culture that undervalues men and the sleeping giant won't even notice the slight annoyance of this effort. We can undo all this so called progress in a day if we were so inclined because we are endowed with actual power that can't be removed no matter how unfair that advantage may be it will always exist.
I've learned first hand that legislating my god given power away from me and handing it to my wife who isn't as capable as I am only subtracts from her lifestyle and her happiness. Women had it better before they tried to become our equals.

[–]UtopianfreeMan 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Bru, they can take it away. Don't be a fool. They are slowly fucking your testosterone levels and they are succeeding. Testosterone is power. Testosterone makes you do all those great things. Look around you; how many men do you see still capable of a real fight? Answer: not a lot. Even the niggers, naturally gifted with higher levels are slowly being converted to pussies. Now, I must admit that every man has the capabilities to become a motherfucking alpha, but not many men will seize this opportunity. The potential is there at least, but it's not being used. Instead of a sleeping gaint I would rather say we have a midget capable of becoming a gaint.

[–]Coolbeans024ptf 1 points1 points [recovered]

Have you read my other posts on testosterone? I've been hacking my T levels for some time now. They may be screwing our testosterone but they are also screwing women's testosterone too and much more so for women because hormonal birth control destroys their natural power most of the time. Have you noticed that there isn't really a common word for the opposite of feminism? There probably is but I've not heard it. Women are fighting men and men aren't fighting back because we don't need to, women are destroying themselves all on their own, thinking they are achieving something but most of the time they are losing something sacred and elegant.

[–]UtopianfreeMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are scewing everyones hormones. No, I haven't. Could you provide a link? I've been busy with my T levels for 2+ years.

[–]RPRedhead 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I found this all to be very interesting. I am curious to see the new platform and appreciate all the thought, effort and other resources that have gone into trp. Thanks for sharing some of what has and is going on behind the scenes! Good strategic thinking!

I've thought several times that real (IRL) meetups could be very helpful. An evening over drinks exchanging thoughts, ideas and observations could go a long way towards trp goals. Tough to arrange and not be "outed", tho.

Men really do need more places and ways to connect as men. I hope more of this can happen...somehow.

Again, thanks to trp leadership for all their hard work.

[–]prodigy2throw 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We live in an age where fact checking is no longer a thing. You can post whatever rage porn you want on Facebook and everybody will believe it.

The biggest lesson in all this is that people almost WANT to be lied to and given misinformation.

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As long as we still worry about being outed, we are doing nothing but spinning our wheels.

[–]Evolved_Red 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Looking forward to the new platform!

To be honest, after being active in this sub for almost 2 years, which taught me more of how to be a confident man then what heavy-feminist Australia could ever teach me, I intentionally stayed away from this sub to experience life through red-lenses on my own, to apply everything I've been taught here.

6 months later being away from TRP and i'm seeing the uproar of Roosh's planned meeting here in Sydney and it made me LOL, and brought me back to this sub. Honestly i would've attended the meet, provided there was some degree of anonymity.

I've been currently promoted to a senior management role in a female-dominated workplace, and shit would hit the fan if they knew i attended a 'pro-rape' (WTF!) male meeting. It would destroy this career I've worked so hard to create.

But though i don't have an opinion on Roosh, his antics did lead me back here to TRP, and subsequently to the news of the new platform.

Well done mod team!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fuck concern trolling. It's just proof they've read next to nothing on the sidebar. We shout about going out and experiencing with your new eyes. If these guys read all the material then went out and some tests, over 6 months, it would clear up 90% of these dumb posts. So I say keep deleting that bullshit.

Its only benefit is that it helps mid level guys practice teaching on the newbs.

[–]TooMuchToDoo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

We wanted a way for people to contribute content to our community and be able to anonymously receive thanks from the community, rather than the current setup, which rewards reddit's bank account when we purchase reddit gold. We will announce more about our plans soon, but I liken it to buying a friend a beer, but being able to do it anonymously.

I feel that this can be a slippery slope. There are those who have the intent to use this concept in its intended way, and then I see those who want to post content in order to fish for some income.

Is the team thinking of ways to mitigate/counteract this?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Our curation team (with members such as myself and Rollo) will only be selecting content for curation that we believe is high quality and displays a solid knowledge of red pill.

Who and what content people decide they'd like to tip is their choice, we don't get to control that. But if somebody decides to build an audience on a top-10 list format (which is crappy) it won't flood our home pages, only their private blog. If he is able to make income from that, I say fair game to him.

[–]masonstrips 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post will be directed at individuals who do want to shut this sub down, so Mods...save this and other "reviews".

I encourage other RPers to do the same. Feedback is important.

I've been here for 2 months (rounding up). I lurk, post occasionally, but take this shit seriously.

There are some posts I like, some I don't. It's a buffet, we all get that.

But my self confidence and self assurance had grown immensely since discovering this sub.

I'm learning, I'm growing, I'm monking it, I'm focusing on my carreer, I'm lifting, I'm practicing chit chat with chicks, and I'm genuinely trying to improve.

Improve MY life and MY choices. Discipline. Not someone else's.

Reddit is also an easy medium for me. Somewhere I can get a quick article in on my phone during a lunch break.

We're all trying to improve here. That's what it means to me. And if someone at Reddit is trying to shut THIS sub reddit down, I ask they read this.

I go to /funny to laugh. /nfl to talk sports.

I come here to grow.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)


you are right. This is a revolution. However, the masses are dumb, as you surely know. They don't care about machiavellianism, they don't care about philosophy, they don't care about woman getting special treatment, they don't care about questioning the status quo. why should they. Games and bread, you win the masses.

The french people revolted because they starved, while the aristocraZy bathed in bread, the people were denied a basic need. Food.

Deny a basic need and you get a revolution. A basic need for men is sex. For woman it's commitment. Soon enough, both will be denied. Weak men will play vidya all day long, frustrated about the dating game. Woman will fuck Mister Thundercock, but can't secure commitment.

Sure, you could say this is a revenge fantasy, however as more men wake up and realize marriage is a scam, numbers will add up. More women than men go to college now, we all know woman date up. Who will they date? Men like me won't commit and given reddits demography, this subs specifically, losers and incels, who were smart but didn't know how the gender relations worked, who seeked help and found this place, they will be the future. Young and bright students, engineers, mathematicians and programmers. They will be the futures top 20% but they sure as hell won't commit.

So the genders are and will be "at war". It's unavoidable, the basic needs are being denied, revolution is coming.

[–]INomYou 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Would love to see mods post a chart showing daily total TRP subscriber count - including breakout of additions and attrition - starting from a few days before this blew up in the press through a couple weeks after they move on to the next feminist outrage.

Gonna believe we'll see an acceleration of the normal acquisition rate. And while I personally take issue with a lot of Roosh's stuff - both style and substance - you cant deny that bastard knows how to manufacture clicks. Some of those outraged white knights will become subscribers here once they're shown the underlying code of the matrix they're slave to.

[–]kodemizer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome. Good to hear.

Thank you for all your hard work.

[–]1menergize 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just wanted to say, I'm a professional web developer and designer and if you guys end up needing any help, I can donate some of my time each week to the cause to help out with any additions/developments/modifications that need to be done if it frees up some of the admins/mods to handle other things.

Like policing the concern trolls and bullshit that has been trying to flood in.

[–]daddymonsterpoodle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Came here from a broken marriage, couldn't understand why when I had done everything I was supposed to do, be faithful, support my family, work hard, never complain or get angry, support my wife in her choices, I still got treated like shit. Thanks to red pill for starting my path, I feel like I am reclaiming myself and getting back to being the best version of me I can be.

The only area of red pill I struggle with is all the anger. I understand the anger, but even if women are a special sort of retarded and feminists are fucking things for everybody, I still like women. Just being a hater isn't gonna fix shit. Crying about the unfairness of it all ain't gonna fix shit either. The only way to change things is for enough men to change themselves and improve the lives of those around them.

[–]dochowbadisit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Roosh is a selfish prick. Now everyone's going to associate the Manosphere with some kind of ridiculous rape legalization movement, just so he can get some clickbait to line his own pockets. Fuck Roosh.

[–]1StinkyDiaper 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If Reddit ever decides to shut us down, is it possible for the new website's URL to be something along the lines of 'theredpillschool.com,' or 'theredpill.com'?

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even better. TRP.RED

[–]2RedPill4LYF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Many here participate on a subreddit dedicated to the supposed "rational" debate of these very accusations. (purplepilldebate) To argue it misses the point entirely.

Allow me to shed light on why a red piller would choose to visit that sub, despite knowing PPD is designed to perpetuate the arguments without ever coming to any objectively mutually beneficial resolutions.

In a word, it's practice. There is no better way to test your own knowledge of TRP than to experience all the little tricks and tactics the trolls will use in an attempt to shame you into submission. In my mind, if you have not been banned from PPD yet, it probably wouldn't hurt to read up on the basics again. It's one thing to debate in good faith there, but if you're sufficiently red pilled when making your own submissions, the trolls and mods will shit bricks stifling your messages with completely bogus accusations to justify deleting your threads while threatening to ban you if you challenge the status quo again.

It doesn't take long for a red piller who stays on point to get banned is what I'm saying, and I know I don't really care if I ever get the chance to post there again. Fun as it was while it lasted, I couldn't have asked for a better send off. Getting banned from that sub is like graduating from a college that specializes in teaching you how to effectively call people on their bullshit. The real world benefits were more than worth the effort for me.

Despite how ignorant and hateful almost everyone is against you there, so many things can be taken away from the experience. One of the most interesting aspects of arguing with these people is that once you have seen and heard all of their arguments, predicting them and responding by trumping an SJW's talking points with logic is where the real challenge begins. The thing is, SJWs do not respond to logic head on. They simply do not acknowledge logic and rationality that comes from you. The last thing an SJW wants to do is validate any aspect of what you have to say, not because you're wrong, but because the SJW's true goal is to invalidate you.

Once it really hits you just how rigged the debates are against red pillers, you start to see how all the dots connect together. They attempt to rile you up, get you emotional with their smug bullshit and shaming tactics. That's because they want to escalate the argument with you. They want you to lose your cool so they have an easier time quoting you out of context on other subreddits, forming brigades, and then coordinating tactical vote manipulations while continuing to project their bullshit onto you even through PMs until you finally snap.

A red piller isn't going to snap of course. A red piller is for the most part completely un-phased, if not thoroughly amused, by these hypocritical cowards. A red piller sees the tactics being employed and learns how the SJWs operate; what SJWs believe, and what SJWs actually believe. A red piller processes this information on a person by person basis, then uses that knowledge to cuntsmash the whole sub.

The point isn't to win the arguments. The point is to get good at owning the SJWs and their disingenuous backhanded accusations so that you can focus on learning how SJWs will respond once they have been checkmated. They don't engage your logic in good faith, what they look for is anything they can grab hold of to shift the focus on anything they can plausibly get away with shaming you over so that you must stay firmly on the defensive. They know either way they have you where they want you if they convince you it's necessary to justify your existence. You'll either get worn down while they continue further derailing the topic, or you'll get frustrated and they'll use that anger to perpetuate the notion that you are the troll and a bad person for agreeing with anything on TRP.

It will click with you sooner or later that this is what's really happening, and that's why it's fun to rock the whole sub once you get it. TRP could easily dominate PPD with just a handful of dedicated red pillers who refuse to deviate from whatever the topic at hand is. Naturally, such an effective lot of red pillers would vanish from the sub without a trace. A well documented record of such an effort would make for interesting study material on TRP I would imagine.

This lesson alone was but one valuable insight I took away from PPD that benefited me in the real world. I'm very good at picking up on liars and calling them on it in person now. A lot of strategies blue pillers use to attack TRP don't mean shit in the real world where I can debunk and suss out the true intent behind the deceitful language a curious number of people use to influence the reactions they want right there on the spot.

[–]UtopianfreeMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The elite is losing control. Women are just a puppet in their silly games.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol my LTR told me she looked up the Roosh thing and didn't actually believe he was a rapist. It was always pretty flimsy. Still thinks he's an ass or whatever. I've never talked about any of this stuff with her btw.

[–]PabloEscoba 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It troubles me that there might be a crack down on this sub or general redpill manosphere content elsewhere on the internet. I feel confident in the new platform to serve as backup. I do hope that the new user experience remains intuitive & that the momentum does not get lost due to initial teething issues/ unfarmiliar UI . Great job overall and thanks for the address.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the kind words, and yes, that was one of my biggest concerns.

Part of the reason for our growth has been the ease of use on the reddit platform, and our decision to stay on reddit has been strictly because we're not just a discussion forum, but rather, we're the red pill subreddit. If we are forced to move, I want to maintain that identity, and so we've written the new software to look, act, and feel as close to reddit's behavior as possible.

[–]Spidertech500 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm on mobile and cannot see the sidebar but can you be more specific on what is an is not concern trolling and the difference between that and concern and what role is plays? Thanks

[–]because_im_the_best 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Men need to start going back to church. NOT to worship. But it's a place where men can congregate without being policed/observed/etc.

Back in the day, men would go to church every week for networking. Even if they thought god and religion were bullshit. Atheism is widespread now, for good reason, but I think church can serve as an important role in men's community.

[–]Firespit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you considered to mirror on the Tor Hidden Services and Freenet?

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