Blue Pill ExampleUgly feminist writes letter to her CEO whining about how she doesn't get paid a living wage for her entry level job, and deserves to be paid a living wage to "tweet funny things" for a living. Gets fired, and whines even more begging for handouts. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by TheDonald2k16

Summary: Just an overall cesspool of blue pill feminism, a woman who takes an entry level job that doesn't even require a college degree in San Francisco and whines about how it doesn't pay enough, and how she deserves to be paid more. Ends up getting fired, and continues to whine about it asking for donations.


I left college, having majored in English literature, with a dream to work in media.

Off to a great start, I see. English Literature, now THERE is a major that has a bounty of high income job prospects waiting. As someone who works in media myself, no matter what, you are starting at the bottom of the barrel making minimum wage at best.

I also desperately needed to leave where I was living — I could get into the details of why, but to sum up: I wanted to die every single day of my life and it took me several years to realize it was because of the environment I was in.

Translation: I lived in a state that wasn't a full blown blue state communist area, I was constantly triggered!!! So she moves to San Francisco! GREAT IDEA! Move to the most expensive metro area in the country. Because living in a socialist hellhole is that important, this way she wont be triggered.

Coming out of college without much more than freelancing and tutoring under my belt, I felt it was fair that I start out working in the customer support section of Yelp/Eat24 before I’d be qualified to transfer to media.

She has never had a real job at the age of 24. Damn. Not even a part time job at Dairy Queen. Nothing. She should be lucky that Yelp/Eat24 was even willing to hire her.

Then, after I had moved and got firmly stuck in this apartment with this debt, I was told I’d have to work in support for an entire year before I would be able to move to a different department.

THE FUCKING HORROR! NO WAY! God forbid they want you to work an entry level job and have you do well at that for a year before moving onto a non-entry level position! No! She is a strong woman, and is ENTITLED to be put in an experienced level position right away! She deserves it, you see!

*Life Advice for you younger ones: Entry level positions for any company are important. Do not blow them off. Why? Because companies don't really use these positions to see how well you can do the said entry level job. They use them to measure your overall worth. They measure how reliable you are, how punctual you are, how professional you are, how hard you are willing to work, how much of a team player you are, how well you listen to instructions, your attitude, and all of that. It's how they determine whether or not you are worthy for greater things.

A whole year answering calls and talking to customers just for the hope that someday I’d be able to make memes and twitter jokes about food. If you follow me on twitter, which you don’t, you’d know that these are things I already do. But that’s neither here nor there. Let’s get back to the situation at hand, shall we?

Because she is good at writing funny tweets, she deserves to be paid 6 figures for that for a living right away without having to prove herself at an entry level position first. If you disagree, you are a capitalist pig shitlord. FEEL THE BERN.

So here I am, 25-years old, balancing all sorts of debt and trying to pave a life for myself that doesn’t involve crying in the bathtub every week. Every single one of my coworkers is struggling. They’re taking side jobs, they’re living at home. One of them started a GoFundMe because she couldn’t pay her rent. She ended up leaving the company and moving east, somewhere the minimum wage could double as a living wage.

Who put a gun to these people's heads and made them work at this place? At least someone had the sense to leave the Bay Area and move to a place where the cost of living is lower. But no, this woman is ENTITLED to be able to live in the Bay Area, because elsewhere she is triggered, and therefore should be ENTITLED to be paid enough to be able to comfortably live there. If you disagree that she should be paid enough to cover rent, food, utilities, cable, clothing, gas, insurance, car payment, eating out regularly, health insurance, entertainment, and vacations, you are a shitlord.

Another guy who got hired, and ultimately let go, was undoubtedly homeless. He brought a big bag with him and stocked up on all those snacks you make sure are on every floor (except on the weekends when the customer support team is working, because we’re what makes Eat24 24-hours, 7 days a week but the team who comes to stock up those snacks in the early hours during my shift are only there Mondays through Fridays, excluding holidays. They get holidays and weekends off! Can you imagine?).

A guy was raiding the snacks for himself and gets fired. The horror. And more valuable, experienced employees get holidays and weekends off? HOW COULD ONE BE SO PRIVILEGED? It's called competition. If you want those days off, how about make yourself more valuable. Work harder.

I haven’t bought groceries since I started this job. Not because I’m lazy, but because I got this ten pound bag of rice before I moved here and my meals at home (including the one I’m having as I write this) consist, by and large, of that. Because I can’t afford to buy groceries. Bread is a luxury to me, even though you’ve got a whole fridge full of it on the 8th floor. But we’re not allowed to take any of that home because it’s for at-work eating. Of which I do a lot. Because 80 percent of my income goes to paying my rent. Isn’t that ironic? Your employee for your food delivery app that you spent $300 million to buy can’t afford to buy food. That’s gotta be a little ironic, right?

You are the dumbass who chose to live in the Bay Area making a minimum wage job. You could work a minimum wage job in the upper midwest and only pay $400 in rent a month, but no, you have to live in the Bay Area. Her choice to live in San Francisco is more important to her than food in her stomach.

Let’s talk about those benefits, though. They’re great. I’ve got vision, dental, the normal health insurance stuff — and as far as I can tell, I don’t have to pay for any of it! Except the copays. $20 to see a doctor or get an eye exam or see a therapist or get medication. Twenty bucks each is pretty neat, if spending twenty dollars didn’t determine whether or not you could afford to get to work the next week.

Man I only wish I had all my health insurance costs covered by my employer. This is a great benefit but she still whines. IT'S NOT ENOUGH! WAHH!!! I am entitled!

Because I haven’t been here very long, but it seems like every week the faces change. Do you think it’s because the pay your company offers is designed to attract young people with no responsibilities, sort of like the CIA? Except these people don’t even throw away their trash, because they still live at home and this is their very first job and they don’t have to take an aptitude test like at the CIA.

Entry level jobs that require no degree tend to have high turnover and not attract the best of the bunch. If you have ever worked a real job before, you'd understand this. It has nothing to do with low pay.

Maybe instead, you can let customers choose a donation amount during checkout and divide those proceeds among your employees who spend more than 60% of their income on rent? The ideal percent is 30%. As I said, I spend 80%. What do you spend 80% of your income on? I hear your net worth is somewhere between $111 million and $222 million. That’s a whole lotta rice.

She suggests turning the company into a charity case. Because that would work out so well for the company from a PR standpoint. Because he is worth over $100 million, he is an evil person.

UPDATE: As of 5:43pm PST, I have been officially let go from the company. This was entirely unplanned (but I guess not completely unexpected?) but any help until I find new employment would be extremely appreciated. My PayPal is xxx, my Venmo is xxx Square Cash is xxx. Thank you so much for helping my story be heard.

She gets fired, rightly so. Since she was only worth $24,000 a year to the company, she was not even a drop in the bucket. But then just asks for more handouts, because you see, she is a strong woman who DESERVES. DESERVE. Women always think they DESERVE just for simply existing. She DESERVES to be able to live in the Bay Area comfortably with all her needs met. The thing is, its never enough. If she made $100,000, she would say she DESERVES $250,000 because she DESERVES an even nicer apartment and car.

I am going to laugh if this stays up. I doubt any company would want to hire her after reading this, it just shows how entitled and whiny she is.

Of course, the comments offer some white knights. Here is one:

“You know, the other day I was browsing Medium, and I saw a girl down on her luck, despairing about a minimum-wage job that does not allow one to actually live.” “Oh wow, Kris, and what did you do?” “I kicked her when she was down, obviously. I mansplained until I was blue in the face, rubbed every mistake I guessed she could have made on her stupid face. Then I left, satisfied at a job well done.”

White knight comes in and even uses the word "mansplain". Doesn't get more blue pill than that.

Edit: Found this on another board from a person who knows this woman.

"I, too, write. On the side like 99% of writers. A while back, I pitched an article to a mag, and it was accepted. Their guidelines require a first time freelancer to hook up with a more seasoned freelancer. Ok. So, I was hooked up with her. Except upon researching, she had only ever published the above linked article. But, she was friends with the editor. It was supposed to my story, my tag line. The secondary writer is just supposed to advise with their particular process and help polish. And if agreed upon, share the tag line.

Well, we talked extensively about the article. And it became very apparent to me that she was using me to further her own "career." She cut almost every line of my work, an article about a subject she admittedly knew nothing about. She was living in Louisiana at the time, and name dropped constantly. Like she knows the guy who played Kevin on Supernatural. And she was bffs with the editor. And she was at this party one time where so and so showed up. She was still in school at the time, but very clearly thought she was the best writer the world has ever seen. She intermittently bragged about her life and then complained about being a poor college student.

Also, she is an extreme SJW and complained about how much "white people suck." As you can see, she is white. She ragged on the south and said I seem cool and asked how to I live in "that racist shit hole." Typical CA, liberal, SJW, millenial. I emailed the editor and pulled my article from consideration. I agonized over that as it would have given me some exposure. But, I wanted the exposure to my writing, not to further some self-indulgent, narcissistic nitwit. This thread has made my year. I made the right choice. My name is not attached to anyone who is going down in flames. If I'm going to go down in flames, I want to set the fire myself."


  • Women get caught up in thinking they deserve simply by existing. They DESERVE a living wage. They DESERVE to live in a progressive tolerant city free from bigotry and hate. They DESERVE to go out with the girlfriends and get trashed and ride the cock carousel having all kinds of cock inserted in them. They DESERVE a high SMV man who will commit and marry them once they hit the wall and exit the cock carousel.

  • You don't deserve shit. If you want to be paid more, work harder. Make yourself more valuable. It's not your CEOs fault that you get paid what you get paid. Getting paid 6 figures for "tweeting" isn't going to fucking happen.

  • Just because someone is ultra successful doesn't mean they are obligated to use their resources to pay all their employees a living wage.

  • If you choose to live in the Bay Area without a high paying job you are a moron. Why live in the most expensive city in the country when you can live elsewhere.

  • Entry level jobs are not used to measure how well you can do the entry level job, but are used to measure an employee's base level of professionalism, worth, and value.

[–][deleted] 134 points135 points  (25 children)

Completely ignoring the fact that she chose to live in one of the 5 most expensive cities in the country despite having a piece of shit degree and no work experience, 99% of her problems would be fixed by having a roommate.

I miss agency.

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[–]I_think_things 48 points49 points  (8 children)

She's also a liar. Here's some pictures of her eating out and cooking habits. That's definitely not all rice.

[–]bellevuewa 24 points24 points [recovered]

Oh this is friggin perfect.

I have family in the bay area and despite having had offers in the mid-250k range I cannot do the math of moving to the bay given that I will be taking a massive haircut to my lifestyle up here in Seattle.

This woman is a perfect example of what's wrong with Millennial women today.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I thought conventional wisdom was to take the higher $ job even though the cost of living is higher so you can use that to leverage with future employers in cheaper areas.

Am I off here?

[–]bellevuewa 3 points3 points [recovered]

As my Grandpa used to say... Its not how much you make, but how much you save that will define your long term happiness. The cost of living in SFO+taxes+commute will leave me with lesser savings and less free time to follow my passions. The Seattle market is a good pay/time master when it comes to what I do.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah obviously I dont know your situation and if youre getting 250k job offers youre probably doing pretty well for yourself. But just as a game theory exercise i thought it was conventional wisdom to take the slightly shittier position with higher pay for a year or two then hop back somewhere you want to be with that salary as a chip to raise your future salary

[–]systemshock869 21 points21 points [recovered]

Does she honestly think that all the poor decisions she made that led to her financial situation are the responsibility of her employer?

The fucking way of the future boys. Enjoy the decline!

[–]kireol 7 points8 points  (2 children)

IMHO, it's kids in general that have a hard time seeing their problems are their fault and under their control to fix. It's not until 30+ years old that many(not all) people start to realize this.

[–]1aguy01 8 points9 points  (1 child)

To be fair that is what they are taught. They go to school and learn that all they need to do is follow people's directions and everything will be taken care of. Of course she expects that she should have a comfortable life by being responsible enough to show up and do the things she is assigned, that's how it's worked all her life.

[–]nsummy 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I think with everyone's first real job, reality hits hard. No one really realizes how much the government takes (not that much really, but shocking at first), how much food and transport costs, and the fact that you can't just take out a student loan to deal with this. Of course most people suck it up and have peers going through the same thing. No clue why this idiot thought her situation was so shocking. And really no clue why this was posted in this sub. Judging by the way she uses examples of how shitty her male cowokers are doing leads me to believe that this has nothing to do with feminism. She just happens to be female. We would have the same reaction if this was some entitled hipster male writing this shit.

[–]garlicextract 18 points19 points  (1 child)

despite having a piece of shit degree and no work experience, 99% of her problems would be fixed by having a roommate.

And 100% of her problems would have been solved if she thought to herself "hmm, I can't afford to pay $1245 on rent on $12.25/hr" before signing a lease and a work contract.

Plus, even if she didn't have the foresight or ability to do the math on her living expenses, she could have quit a month after starting when realizing it wasn't going to work out.

[–]CosmonautDrifter 15 points15 points [recovered]

And apparently to live by herself.

If she got roommates she wouldn't have to spend 98% of her check on rent.

[–]opening_eyes 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Or live in (gasp) an uncool neighborhood

[–]Her_Wolf 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Eh, I can somewhat get that. Though that may because the only frame of reference I have for an 'uncool neighborhood' is the fucking Bronx.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 85 points86 points  (20 children)

I knew a guy who started of in support at Lotus. He worked shitty hours (nights/weekends), but unlike this twat, he never bitched or complained, he got promoted, worked his ass off at that job, got promoted again...lather, rinse, repeat.

Today he is very well off, which is no doubt the result of "white privilege" and "male privilege".

Wrong. It's the result of "work your ass off" privilege.

Winners win; losers whine.

[–]5 Endorsed ContributorStayinghereforreal 22 points23 points  (19 children)

Today he is very well off, which is no doubt the result of "white privilege" and "male privilege".

Time and again, you will see the Apex Fallacy at play. People will hate on some successful person, convinced that person had it easy or was given what they have. Never realizing that so many others tried and failed, or simply never really tried, to get what the Apex Person has.

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[–]putinbush101 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Exceptionally well written piece, all you young fuckers should read this.

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[–]putinbush101 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That addendum is fucking pure gold, you should do a series on that style of manipulation of your environment.

[–]asrp2016 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This should made into post so everyone else can see thank you!

[–]Gape-Horn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would rate this in my top 10 TRP posts/comments.

[–]Wumpus1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So many people also just suck ass at being successful. Those among us still need motivation to work hard and achieve. It's pretty clear when someone is not getting promotions because they suck at life and are idiots. Despite this, it is still very important to show that it CAN be done by the responsible among us.

[–]foldpak111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"The truth is, is fuckin' HARD to be a high-performance individual!" -Dan Pena

[–]aDrunkenWhaler 36 points37 points  (4 children)

What's even funnier, she just blew her chances to get hired again by another company. If it's not word of mouth, a simple google search by HR and her CV hits the bin. Give it a few more months and you'll have another Casting Couch contender.

[–]putinbush101 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yuck, dont they at least have standards?

[–]fearl3ss 6 points7 points  (1 child)

She'll get hired by some tech company looking to score "diversity points" in the blogs for 15 seconds.

[–]zapatosdemadera 26 points27 points  (13 children)

I hope that eventually people stop doing what she did. The problem is the Yelp and companies like them understand those social media manager jobs are fairly BS and that support staff can be replaced, yet still want everyone to be in one office (usually in SF/Bay Area). Stop providing them they opportunity to pay less than acceptable wages by not moving to SF to get paid shitty wages. Her paychecks could go a lot farther in cities like St. Louis, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, Detroit, or Philly and theres no reason why they couldn't just outsource the low-pay work to offices in those places if they don't have a supply of local labor to do it.

She is the problem because she romanticized places like SF (which while cool and innovative is also incredibly shitty - like literal shit on sidewalks) without understanding what her path to success would be there. Also highly doubt she understood her budget. If people stopped flocking to expensive shit-holes because they were "cool cities" and just found cool people in places that they could afford, you wouldn't have chicks writing pathetic articles about not being able afford to live in a city their not even native to.

Feel sorry for the old lady being priced out of her neighborhood, not this chick!

[–]TheDonald2k16[S] 19 points20 points  (12 children)

Yeah she apparently moved from Louisiana because it was a "racist shithole" to San Francisco. Typical SJW.

I live in Seattle which is like SF in a lot of ways. You are right about shit on the sidewalks, smells like urine and shit everywhere. Not to mention needles. I don't get these supposed progessive utopias at all. They are dirty filthy and full of undesirables.

My least favorite part of Seattle is the cost of living. I only moved here because it was a step up to market #14 and having that on your resume is big. But I fucking hate the city itself. I don't get why these SJWs are so willing to move to such expensive places just because its "progressive".

[–]dhump 18 points19 points  (6 children)

Funny thing is, these cities are filled with just as much "hate and bigotry" as the place she left, it's just aimed at the demographic she hates as well. Crazy talk. People like this girl only see racism, hate, etc. Because they want to.

[–]TheDonald2k16[S] 17 points18 points  (5 children)

No doubt. I live in Seattle and there is a lot of intolerance here.

I am from the South and people in the south are much nicer and less hateful than here in Seattle. The south being a hateful racist area is a myth.

[–]dhump 11 points12 points  (0 children)

1000%. I live 15 minutes from downtown Atlanta. Grew up in a small town in rural Georgia. No more or less hate either place.

[–]ntnclvr 12 points13 points  (2 children)

There is plenty of tolerance in SF, as long as you support the shitting on the sidewalks, agree white males are the devil, minority criminals just had a bad life so not their fault and we should not throw the book at them.

People that work hard and want a clean city are the evil heartless bastards for wanting a clean safe city. The SF homeless problem has gone on my entire life. We do nothing about it or when they try to the homeless won't accept it.

Then throw in all the feminist cunts that are looking to pounce on whatever PC flavor of the month crap these twats can sling. The Bay Area was great, it fucking sucks now. But it has for about 20 years.

Now back to our previously scheduled adderall and bathtub cry session. "But I have a degree!" Sob sob sob...

Edit: spelling.

[–]RedMoonAscendant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God Damn I'm glad I moved out of SF. I still have to go back regularly for business, and every time I'm there I can't wait to get the fuck back out.

[–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Born in Charlotte, NC. Can confirm.

[–]clearedmycookies 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't get why these SJWs are so willing to move to such expensive places just because its "progressive".

Its really not about being progressive or not. Just like TRP has lots of tips that set you up to be surrounded with all the pussy you need, one of them being literally surround yourself with people that has a better game than you while you start of fresh and are still learning.

Well, the majority of the rich folks do live in big cities (San Francisco is like top 5 on that list). Living in a big city like San Francisco is a kill or be killed type of life. More suited for CEOs, Wall Street types and not so much the minimum wage twitter feed jobs.

As far as "progressive" goes, its really a numbers game. There will always be some percent of the population that agrees with whatever you believe in, but in a small city, you may never find them or the final count of people are just too small to matter. Same percentage in a higher more densely populated area, and you will have a large enough of a group final count, numbers wise, to have your small community going. That's about the only things that would bring me to live in a big city again (path to riches, and having some community to back me up no matter who I am).

Lets face it, the word progressive has connotations of looking down at the rest of society because you label your own thoughts to be better than the rest of the world.

[–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Remember those protestors in the kayaks protesting the oil rig they built a couple years ago? It was hilarious knowing that the car they drove their required oil and gas and the fucking kayak itself was made from oil.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just like Vancouver, Canada. Vancouverites pride their city as the best place on earth, but xenophobic as fuck. We are the 2nd most unaffordable city in the world, not because of foreign investors, but because of taxpayer backstopped mortgage insurance (similar to your Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac) leading to Canadians buying RE at all cost.

I'm Asian, and I can't wade into any arguments about why Vancouver is unaffordable, without some dick/cunt accusing me being a corrupted Chinese officials.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (10 children)

When people start talking about "muh living wage" I like to think about what these people would do if they ever considered doing anything remotely entrepreneurial.

Like, they decide to open a bakery and sell bread, but their bread is shitty and no one wants to buy it.


I'm so sorry that you're paid based on the value you provide... horrible, I know...

Alternatively, people actually do want to buy it, but they only want to pay 50 cents for it.


[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (6 children)

My ex-gf ( who used to be a server ) had an argument about tipping, when she complained that someone gave her only 6 dollars as a tip.

I asked her what the bill was and she said it was around 30 bucks.

I told her I thought that was pretty good. That's almost an hours wage! (minimum wage was 8 bucks an hour at the time) And you couldn't have brought that much shit to their table for 30 dollars.

She got really mad and exasperatedly asked, "Yeah thanks so much! like wtf am I going to buy with 6 dollars!? That was my only table all night!"

Best part: I later witnessed her completely stiff a pizza delivery driver, giving him no tip at all. This poor asshole is putting miles on his shitty car and burning his own gas (which was hella expensive at the time) to deliver that pizza. Oh well fuck him right?

I used to regret breaking up with her when I was feeling depressed and sorry for myself. After typing this I can't believe it took me so long...

[–]RedMoonAscendant 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Holy fucking shit. After all that bitching about getting a bad tip, she gives a delivery driver no tip?

What. The. Ever-loving. Fuck.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I gave her shit for it and she was super dismissive. "Oh WHATever. I'm not going to feel bad about it. Do you want some pizza or not?".

I was weak ass.

[–]jamaljabrone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Entitlement. Get used to it

[–]spaceythrowaway 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Hell, you can even sell 50 cents bread for $20 if you know how to sell it right. You dont even have to be good at your job. You just have to be good at giving the impression you are.

48 Laws apply

[–]1raceAround126 82 points83 points  (32 children)

Support people are generally the worst for being entitled. Men and women. And yes, women are very often worse at being entitled.

From an IT/Applications Support point of view, most of the people are pretty talented when they first arrive but have no conceptual idea that they actually do have to work the entry level roles first. And no, they don't get set loose in a lab with lots of fancy gear when they land. Mainly because those roles are for experienced professionals, not whiny crybabies who write snide letters when things don't go their way.

[–]SteakhouseXT 31 points32 points  (3 children)

I don't know, I rarely see any inhouse promotions, it's all hiring out of the company.

When I get a "promotion" it's because my experience and skill have reached a level where I can get paid more, so I leave since I won't get a raise.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (2 children)

It's a perfectly viable option to job-hop between two companies and get your promotions that way. I've doubled my income three times in the last 5 years by working my ass off to get the skills, then leaving to apply them elsewhere when the initial company won't pay more.

[–]nuesuh 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The same way that employers wants to pay as little as possible, the employee should aim to be paid as much as possible.

Switching employer and/or negotiating higher wage is mandatory(unless you're stupid or fully satisfied with your current income)

[–]RaptorFalcon 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is called leveraging your potential...

[–]gqtrees 18 points19 points  (7 children)

question regarding the title...why did op state "ugly" though?....stupid feminist is a stupid feminist, even if she is drop dead gorgeous. Unless op meant her attitude by ugly. Just a random thought lol. Besides that agree with everything!

[–]ether_reddit 15 points16 points  (5 children)

She's most likely not ugly, actually. Ugly girls get STEM degrees or otherwise work hard to make their own way in life, since they know they can't just get things handed to them.

However, I totally agree that she's ugly on the inside.

[–]John_E_Vegas 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Yes. Very ugly indeed.

That said, I think we all need to be careful and not get too ugly here ourselves by making too many broad assumptions and overly generalizing.

I know some of the comments are tongue-in-cheek. We all do well to recognize the absurdity of these feminists and female attitudes in general, but as men of worth, let's not invest too much time fussing over it.

[–]ether_reddit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wise words. I think the only way to win in debates like this is to rise above it all, and not play the same game (privilege-blaming, oppression olympics, etc).

[–]zwhitchcox 5 points5 points [recovered]

She's fat. Her tweets are pretty funny though. I used to follow her when twitter was relevant.

[–]twatbutter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because she is pretty ugly. This is her picture if you scroll down a bit.

[–]CollateralNerdage 10 points11 points  (5 children)

Support people are generally the worst for being entitled.

I gotta disagree with you there. I've worked as tech support for Verizon Wireless, as an iOS/Mac+ rep for AppleCare, and as in-person or in-house support several other places. I can honestly say that the vast majority of people who I worked with were kind, considerate, down to earth people who didn't see themselves as entitled to anything that they didn't work hard to get in the first place.

I'm not saying you're wrong, though. There were some who were complete jackasses who thought that they were hot shit because they had a job that paid $10 an hour to help people with their tech. They don't usually last very long, though. Places like that kick you out with a foot in your ass if you don't fit in there- and that's what seems to have happened with this entitled fuck that OP referenced in his post.

This is a classic case of an entitled, delusional shitlord, and I can honestly and happily tell you that with Eat24's negative reference, she's not going to find gainful employment in SFO and will soon find herself in an even shittier situation. May she suffer like all delusional shits with no work ethic should.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Same with the aviation industry many people start out slinging 30kg bags into cans for years before they progress into other roles like airport management.

[–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You got to love the grind. I'm going to join the merchant mariners as an AB and work my way up to third mate without attending an academy. It's a beautiful process and if you're young, who fucking cares. JUST! DO IT!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That sort of attitude gets you places. But still make sure to play it smart no point getting stuck in an entry position. Always change companies too

[–]bradtwo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do not agree with your "Support people are generally the worst..." statement. I think it couldn't be more off topic.

It isn't support people, I know this because this is what I do and have done for the last 15+ years.

It is more of the "new age worked mentality" than anything. I come form the south, grew up bailing hay as a child, and working my ass off to get where I am. I put myself through college, and paid off my student loans. I've never bitched about having to pay for what I borrowed or work the hours that my job required. Most (if not nearly all) of the people I've worked with are the same.

[–]IM_PRETTY_RACIST 0 points1 point  (0 children)

picture of her tweet about getting alcohol at work:


[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Listen, I moved to the Bay Area and started with a Support job.

I moved into a house with roommates for $1,000 a month because it was what I could afford at the time. You know how I knew to do that? Because I did some research and realized it was insanely expensive. It's like going to a country with a different currency, you have to mentally recalculate "normal dollars" vs. "Bay dollars."

Now, having SUCCESSFULLY done what she feels that she's entitled to (I crawled out of being just a support agent in about 6 months), I can tell you some things she probably didn't do.

She probably didn't go out of her way to do anything above and beyond answering calls and emails. In that case, she becomes just a set of numbers. Which is fine, because the ONLY thing she's putting out is "average handle time, "cases resolved," and maybe "satisfaction rate." Do you think she went out of her way to suggest amendments to processes? Do you think she actively sought product issues, documented them, and suggested a fix to the Product team? No, she did her job competently (or not) and expected everything to be handed to her. I'm not even sure this is a redpill/feminist issue - to me it seems like the epitome of millennial (like me, as much as I hate to say it) coming to the Bay Area because they think it's an employment party.

You have to FORCE the people above you to see, "Whoa, this one can probably do something positive for my team."

[–]RedMoonAscendant 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Indeed. I see you've done it, and I personally know a dude living in a house paying $900/mo in rent with about 8 other roommates.

Why this retarded bitch didn't do the same to save $325/mo is beyond me. Oh, wait. She's an entitled stupid cunt. I guess it's not beyond me.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 38 points39 points  (18 children)

I agree with everything but this...

*Life Advice for you younger ones: Entry level positions for any company are important. Do not blow them off. Why? Because companies don't really use these positions to see how well you can do the said entry level job. They use them to measure your overall worth. They measure how reliable you are, how punctual you are, how professional you are, how hard you are willing to work, how much of a team player you are, how well you listen to instructions, your attitude, and all of that. It's how they determine whether or not you are worthy for greater things.

No being cashier at some store or stocking shelves will not get you a promotion. The only way for younger ones to get promotions is to be ready to move when you get a better opportunity. You should be looking at your options ever year. You should be moving every 2-5 years for another company otherwise you'll not keep pace with the rate of inflation because most places wont even give you raises.

[–]TheDonald2k16[S] 17 points18 points  (4 children)

Well you are right, but when I said entry level I was more referring to entry level professional jobs post-college, not necessarily part time minimum wage jobs meant for teenagers.

But I always put those part time minimum wage jobs I did as a teenager on my resume, companies these days love prospective employees who actually worked jobs like that as a teenager and understand work ethic. A bunch of college grads these days never worked a day in their life and don't even know the basics of a job - showing up on time, clocking in, punching out, following orders, etc. So employers like to see someone who has worked fast food or another menial job.

I also have job hopped as you said. I stick around for a year or two and jump. But it's also the nature of the industry I work(Television). I've jumped from market #163 to #89 to #14.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (4 children)

what you said isn't wrong, but parts of it are

you can definitely work your way up in a company starting from the bottom - when I worked a grocery store job in college all the department managers and a few of the heads were all promoted from within.

it's definitely possible to work your way up, but you also have to be willing to move if there's a better opportunity

[–]1whatsazipper 8 points9 points  (3 children)

The problem I've found is that despite switching positions in a company internally, moving upward, they're often reluctant to give an actual pay increase corresponding to the new position.

Yet at the same time, if it goes vacant, they still hire someone for the market rate. So if you moved up internally, you often end up below market rate for the position because the pay increase is still anchored to the initially negotiated base salary, which was for a lesser skilled role. Completely nonsensical and provides incentive to job hop.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 6 points7 points  (2 children)

They refuse to increase pay for a new position because they figured they trained you so you're not worth as much. Take your skills to another place and they'll pay you what you're worth.

[–]1whatsazipper 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That doesn't sound right, but maybe it's the rationalization the company uses to stiff their employees. Gaining experience is not being trained; it's an organic development process in which some people excel and some people languish, and the rest fall in the middle somewhere.

Realistically the only thing saving them are employees too risk-averse to move on, which turns out to be the case more often than not.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 9 points10 points  (0 children)

All companies are looking for ways to stiff their employees.

If this was not the case then minimum wage would increase at the rate of inflation and it would be illegal to not give a raise that is equal to the rate of inflation. Every year you go without a raise you're being paid less for the same work.

[–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Very few industries are like this. Most blue-collar work is this way, though. If you have excellent interpersonal skills, and work your ass off, people will talk.

[–]manwhowouldbeking 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Entry level positions are important because they teach you how much theese jobs fucking suck and what they are like for the people who do them long term and make you want to do/find something better. Entry level positions suck so hard to make you hustle to find something better or prove your worth promoting to something better.

[–]Tatersalad99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you keep absorbing responsibility you can move up quicker

[–]spaceythrowaway 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Those are not "career roles"

At my company, the entry level "job" is a support exec, but an entrt level "career role" is a junior copywriter

The creative director came through the ranks as a junior copywriter

For anyone who wants to build a career, I'd say thats a good place to start

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a bit curious, what does a junior copywriter do in your company. And how does he get started in that field?

[–]War2kali 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He meant entry level at a larger company with a ladder to climb and he's correct. He wasn't referring to entry level retail or such with no real room to advance.

[–]yomo86 11 points12 points  (14 children)

24.000 is quite generous including the HC for a bachelor in English Literature and little to no experience. I mean employees who have professional degrees or are certified trade workers earn 50.000 as a starting salary.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (11 children)

$24,000 is great.

I'm a student living off about $9000 dollars a year (I'm UK so that figure might be way off lol) and I live like a king I swear (admittedly this isn't San Franciso but it's far from a shithole). I have a double bed, a desk, and good food (good quality organic stuff regularly because I know how to fucking cook and be frugal). Compared to people living ten years ago my life is great. I have all the music I want at my finger tips, every film, every TV show, and I can still spare some cash for some entertainment every now and again. The rest? I make my own fun and hang out with friends who do the same.

I sure as fuck do not live in poverty although lots of people claim that people with more than twice what I get live in poverty. It's a joke. I'm not even a saver really. I blow spare money on tattoos and tech stuff (to be fair, it's an investment as well), and even have some pretty nice clothes. Sometimes I get laid too. Life is good.

Thing is, I'm actually pretty left-wing economically, but shit, I can't stand when lefties spread this bullshit about how life is soooo difficult when you don't have much money. Life is, in fact, absurdly easy and enjoyable. I come from a good background too, my dad has been on six figures for ages so I'm used to nice shit, but living as a 'poor' person for the past few years has been perfectly pleasant for me. I don't get what people are whining about.

[–]the_Darkling 7 points8 points  (3 children)

San Francisco's living expenses are the highest in the US. Rent is higher, food is higher, everything is higher. 24,000 dollars there is not the same as 24k where you are.

[–]yomo86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Human shitlands aka the urban metropolis' like SF, NY, Paris, Berlin, London etc. have two groups but only one can be exploited.

It is really hard as an employer to attract skilled experienced employees. I have to pay my secretary 45k a year plus HC just for a 9-5 job otherwise I won't attract staff that is any good. On the other hand I only have to pay the intern/liberal arts bitch 6k. Why? Because I can. There is an oversatuartion of labour with some (BS) college. And they need the money desperatly - on the other hand I compete with other firms for the yuppies. Those dude n gals are greedy as fuck and know they find work in another area.

Only move to the big cities when you are made and have leverage not when you want to "make" it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I tend to lean leftist on economic agendas too, and being grouped in with the idiots like the woman who wrote this letter is the biggest downside.

A bit off-topic, but wealthy kids are very likely to stay wealthy, while poor kids are very likely to stay poor. In my opinion, governments should focus on teaching poor chlldren how to think like rich children, rather than obsessin over the difference in income all the time.

[–]TheDonald2k16[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When I was still working part time in my industry after graduating, I did something similar to the OP and took a full time job in customer service for a big bank. All you needed was a college degree and they started you at $32k. They literally hired anyone with a degree. A lot of idiots where I thought "how the fuck did this person graduate high school let alone college".

It was a big bank but they made everyone start out at customer service and after a year you could move to another department. I realized that this was not to see how good you were at customer service but to measure your value, work ethic, professionalism, responsibility, punctuality, reliability, and such.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I'm SO. DAMN. TIRED. of "open letters." Jesus Christ. Why do people think so many other people are going to give a shit about what they think?

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 18 points19 points  (1 child)

This is disgusting.

No one has to live in SF without a roommate. Share an apartment in Daly City or Oakland, these cities aren't that ghetto anymore, and they have direct transportation into the city. Dumb bitch can't manage her money, and can't say no to stupid shit in order to meet her daily expenses...

If you are making minimum wage, it's because you have no skills. Yelp customer support is notoriously horrible, and their sales is notoriously 90s and outdated. A ton of their sales people apply to the company I work, and we reject them all because we know they all are drones. Their base is low as hell - like 36k/yr + commission, because they are script-readers. I know dozens of Yelpers because their AEs are like 60% young hot thots. It is a shitty company and it's stock reflects that, but on the flip side of the coin, most people can do their time and leave for better pastures.

Instead of bitching, you put in a year, cut your expenses, and either learn a new skill, or go work for a better customer support department.

The whole point of entry level jobs is that you're supposed to get through them to better employment - and if you are professional, hardworking, smart, and willing to leave your company if they don't produce, you will.

This complaining and entitlement is simply disgusting, and a perfect insight into WHY she is a minimum wage employee. Her brain is worthless; if you put her in charge of a team, what would she do when there was a problem?

Blame the higher ups, blame her coworkers, blame traffic. Fuck. She's worse than our interns. If she cannot figure out the basic handling of her own life and entry level job, how can she manage P&L performance? How can she manage a sales team's quarterly performance? How can she train new employees? Shit, I wouldn't want her anywhere NEAR new employees, she will infect them with her learned helplessness.

No wonder older guys think us millennials blow donkey dick. Millennials always have their hands out looking to take some value rather than provide value. I get it, the economy sucks, cities are expensive, the baby boomers had it better, you were lied to about the worth of your college career. But so what? We live in a country with a strong economy, even if fearmongers don't think so.

Look at Texas, look at Salt Lake City, look at Oklahoma, Atlanta, etc. Cities are booming across the map. But no, you have to live in SF and pay a fatass rent because you want to be a "big city girl"? Nah, that's not how it works. First you get need to get a big girl job, then you get to live in the big city.

It's a goddamn disgrace that this is going to hurt Yelp's PR and cause an uproar. And I think Yelp is a shit tier company too, no argument about that, but why on earth would they pay such a useless employee - one who actively damages the company more than she helps it - a dime more than min wage?

I hate to look at the world through my Rand goggles all the time, but if you life in the Bay and see this kind of shit EVERY SINGLE DAY about how the evil techies are destroying the hardworking 99%, it's impossible not to. Especially when it comes from women - there are subsidized or even free bootcamps that will teach you how to code if you are a woman, and if you have 2 braincells, you'll get hired at a 70-80k+ salary. Companies are so goddamn cucked; standards for minorities-in-tech and women is at an all time low right now. There is no excuse.

The bay area also has an ample number of tutoring / test prep companies. If you can get a 2100+ on the SAT and you have baseline people skills, you can make $20+ hrs an hr with steady hours at any number of the bajillion tutoring centers.

The only way you are making $10 an hr in the bay as a non-intern is if you have literally zero useful skills. If you're just a warm body. If you are a woman in this land of white knights and beta males, it is doubly pathetic.

Entitlement is a cancer. Women can and will get away with having high entitlement (see, white knights are already sending her donations). As a man though, if you are entitled, no one will give a fuck and you will drown while crying that you deserve better. This is ultimately a good thing though - as a man, you gotta work your ass off and work intelligently, because when yo ass is in the street because you got laid off or your company undervalues you... there won't be any donations waiting for you.

[–]RedMoonAscendant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This gem sitting down here at the bottom of the comments heap. Take an upvote.

[–]CoriolanusRevisited 32 points33 points  (27 children)

To get a living wage right out of college, you have three options.

1) You studied STEM 2) You go into sales 3) You get a military commission

What do all three of those have in common? Hard fucking work.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (5 children)

Health care is in there too. Bitch work, but it pays well.

[–]dhump 6 points7 points  (4 children)

I agree and disagree. Healthcare is a good career path, so long as it doesn't get socialized in the future. The only reason it's "bitch work" is because the entitled dregs of society and millenials think they're entitled to the benefits of your hard work and education for free. Some how, they should make 6 figures a year writing tweets, or have their asses wiped by daddy government, but you getting paid for saving their life is crazy talk.

[–]648262[🍰] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

long as it doesn't get socialized in the future

Medical doctors in Norway still make a good wage, despite health care being free and the country having socialism heavily ingrained in most aspects of the culture. I would not worry too much, but there might be a small shift perhaps.

[–]BRINGMEDATASS 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Thats a dumb attitude to have. Not all millenials are scum similar to how not all baby boomers are scum. Who do you think is gonna pay for your retirement check when you start to rot?

[–]dhump 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Probably my retirement accounts, seeing as how I don't, nor do I expect to, depend on anyone other than myself.

You are correct, though. Not all, maybe not even most. It definitely seems like most, though.

[–]1whatsazipper 16 points17 points  (4 children)

STEM is too broad. Science doesn't pay a living wage; at least not any kind of life I'd like to live.

[–]FourNominalCents 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Eh.... depends how you define science. Chemistry lies pretty squarely on the line between science and engineering, and chemists often get paid rather well.

[–]1whatsazipper 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's a field experiencing slow growth. It's not nearly as well paying as it used to be, but it's better than the alternative disciplines due to the usefulness in industry. An advanced degree might open more doors; as would any significant experience.

In my opinion, traditional education wastes future chemists' time. There ought to be a 'scientific-trade' route to circumvent all the nonsense they force students through. Often I think the preference for a M.S. is simply because education at the undergraduate level is so lacking.

[–]ether_reddit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's exactly why I got out of chemistry -- just a BSc gets you no farther than what a two year tech program would get you. For the serious careers most companies want you to get a PhD.

[–]Gawernator 5 points6 points  (8 children)

Even enlisted life is okay pay. It sucks at first and requires hard work but I made E-5 in under three years and pay starting being not too bad

[–]haneybird 7 points7 points [recovered]

Military is life on easy mode if you are capable of following directions. Unfortunate that so many people are incapable of just that.

[–]Gawernator 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I guess it depends on your job but I'm in a technical field that requires a good level of skill and intellect to advance and it has been challenging.

[–]haneybird 6 points6 points [recovered]

I'm not saying some jobs are not difficult. That absolutely is the case. I an talking about military life in general. There are some dense motherfuckers out there that are simply incapable of following basic instructions and I had way too many of them under me in my ten years in the army.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sometimes, depends on your job. Some are more demanding than others, but all together if you apply yourself and don't make stupid choices, the military is a great way to get your life going.

[–]foldpak111 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Not paying rent or food during those years of service plus GI bill gets you off to a pretty good start in life. Military is a good place to start for poor kids.

[–]Gawernator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It really can be an amazing thing for some people. My family is not poor by any means, not now anyways but I got no handouts from my Father and enlisting has been very good for me. The GI Bill alone is fantastic and the experience and discipline leaves many 18-25 years olds well above their peers...

[–]Squeezymypenisy 7 points8 points  (12 children)

it was either that or go to law school

Jesus christ, I hate people like this. I'm going to law school because I want to be an attorney and I am going to be good. I have a plan too and I spent 1 and a half years studying the lsat and meeting local attorneys/networking before I even got accepted. People like this are the same people that get depressed and become alcoholics when they realize how much work being a lawyer entails. You do not go to law school planning to be rich right when you come out unless you want the golden handcuffs. Don't make the mistake this bitch made guys, have a plan before you do something like undergrad or professional school. To many idiots make the mistake of not having a plan.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Seriously man, I love how her three "decisions" are all equally terrible and she doesn't even realize it.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Couldn't agree more, i'd further add there's a giant glut of people getting law degrees and being unable to pass the bar. It's almost become a trendy thing to go to law school when in reality most work lawyers do is arguing with oc, dealing with misniformed clients, and writing motions. There's some grandeur illusion hanging around that lawyers just spend all their days advocating in louboutins holding a starbucks giving arguments that give socrates a postmortem erection.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep thats about right. For now the rates of enrollment and applications are dropping so the glut may even out in a few years. Many boomers are also looking at retirement, but that doesn't mean everyone will still get a job. I'm luckily in a city that is not overstaurated like California and parts of the northeast. If I was in either of those states I would not be doing this. There are a few places that are still ok for attorneys and don't require the t14. Debt can still be a problem though.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Have you read "Way Worse Than Being a Dentist: The Lawyer's Quest for Meaning"? Pretty funny, the author described lots of lawyers who jumped head first into law because they want to get rich quick, without realizing that all the glam on TV isn't true, at least not for entry level peons. When they realize that law isn't for them, it's already too late since they now have a 6-figures debt that won't go away.

I'd imagine if that cuntface goes to law, she'll have the same woe-is-me, and victimizing mentality after graduation. Probably bitch about how she can't land a CEO and pump out babies.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I will definitely check it out. That's what always irritated me because it is assholes like the book described that flooded the market in the first place. It sounds like the same is happening to dentistry. Even worse is all of the females that take slots in medical schools, then after getting out decide they want to stay at home and raise kids. Why the fuck would you waste all that money and time? For the small chance of nabbing a doctor husband? What they should be going after is a health insurance executive.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's funny because I'm in healthcare. My grad year, half of our class is woman. Most popped out babies within a year of graduation, and now some are FT, some are PT. Out of 50 students, I think 4 guys from my class married another healthcare professional from different year. Only 1 girl married a financial planner (she's pretty well off and living the life of desperate housewife, Vancouver edition), the rest were married to someone betas below their status (socioeconomically speaking).

[–]Squeezymypenisy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That last part is surprising, I figured they would end up alone

[–]Darkone06 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Feel the same in IT, I chose this field willingly. I hate people who study something else don't make it and move to IT because that's where the money is.

They just water down the market.

[–]Squeezymypenisy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What I have found is be good and enjoy the job. Especially if you enjoy it, it will set you apart from the 9 to 5 crowd.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Failed English Major turned IT guy here. There's a few of us who learn to care, getting proper certifications and stuff instead of just winging it.

[–]howard333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What I've found in IT... everyone has a different path in. People like to shit on everyone that got in a different way. Everyone feels threatened by someone that got to the same place by playing a different game. They don't know how to compete with that, and think the other person cheated. Had a lot of people telling me certs were worthless, needed a degree, had no experience, etc. They were full of shit.

[–]ThePacketSlinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They just water down the market.

Which is not 100% a bad thing all the time. Most (sane) hiring managers I know are terrified of the prospect of having to find talent from the open market for this reason. This, mostly, is what people are referring to when they call IT a "small world". Most of the higher-tier positions in SMB markets are filled by referrals, especially in the case of new management bringing in a new pool of talent to work under them.

[–]PaulMurrayCbr 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Obvious question: did she share accommodation? Or are other people too triggering?

[–]Cyhawk 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Someone mentioned above she paid $1250 or so in rent. She had to have a roommate or she was commuting 5+ hours/day. No where in the bay area is below $2k/month right now.

[–]redbluepilling 12 points13 points  (5 children)

What does this have to do with sexual strategy? Somewhere the rules used to say avoid getting into politics / stay on topic.

If you want to be paid more, work harder.

Not always true. Work smarter.

Make yourself more valuable.

Actually true.

Just because someone is ultra successful doesn't mean they are obligated to use their resources to pay all their employees a living wage.

If you want shitty employees and don't value even the lowest level ones, then you'll have high turnover. That's not a sign of a thriving business, more like surviving. If their position isn't that important, then consolidate.

If you choose to live in the Bay Area without a high paying job you are a moron.

It's a problem if people working the more menial jobs can't live there. That's a problem for society. The eventual ramifications go far beyond TRP. Global economic crisis.

[–]Adurell 7 points8 points  (4 children)

This. People routinely bring politics to TRP to jump on the socialism-hate train. While this is understandable, since feminists and SJW's are frequently allied with the left side of the political scene, unconditional endorsment of the right, for me, is difficult to understand in lieu of real problems that the right doesn't really solve (at least two of which were mentioned in the above post).

Yes, the girl is basically an entitled bitch who can't manage life and makes demands, but the author used her as a banner against socialists in general (with the ironic "feel the bern" thrown around for good measure), which is both not too classy in general, and hardly has anything to do with sexual strategy per se.

[–]genghiscoyne 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You need to be pretty philosophically inconsistent to adhere strictly to any political ideology. Being of a mind open to the ideas talked about here almost imply you wouldn't have cut and dry bipartisan beliefs.

[–]redbluepilling 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Everyone should apply an analytical eye toward cutting through the bullshit on both sides. I laugh when I hear the gender pay gap issue touted by democrats. It's a political tool used to rouse support from low-information, victim-complex'd women. I describe modern feminism as a sick caricature of itself; yet, I'm still a liberal (on real issues).

[–]iLLprincipLeS 19 points19 points [recovered]

I left college, having majored in English literature, with a dream to work in media. It was either that or go to law school. Or become a teacher.

keksimus sjwsus

I haven’t bought groceries since I started this job. Not because I’m lazy, but because I got this ten pound bag of rice before I moved here and my meals at home (including the one I’m having as I write this) consist, by and large, of that. Because I can’t afford to buy groceries.

This pic from her instagram -> http://archive.is/AR4XX/image

Because I haven’t been here very long, but it seems like ..

Maybe instead, you can let..

She suggests..

Some little cunt with no experience and no social skills, who can't even take care of herself starts giving orders at her new company like she would be Angela Merkel - trying to ruin yet another thing..

Moral of the story, don't hire women. Especially if they have no experience, and are fat or ugly or wear fake glasses.

Where there is no problem, the SJW will have to make up one to justify their payroll.

[–]the_Darkling 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Moral of the story, don't hire stupid women.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Check out all the cat pictures on her Twitter account!

[–]nodoxsavefreespeech 2 points2 points [recovered]

Her shit is private. How fat is she?

[–]the_Darkling 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She's like slightly chubby at the most. She doesn't look super fat, but it could just be good angles.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I felt it was fair that I start out ...

For me personally I feel it's fair that I get paid more then supply and demand dictates in a free market economy, and I personally feel entitled to my choice of supermodels and a private jet to bang them all in.

My first job was paid fuck-all in a horrible place in a horrid house working for a horrid employer who treated me like shit. I had to borrow money to get through to the end of the month. And I loved every second of it, because I was building myself, building my fucking career. It wasn't in the bay area. It wasn't even in a nice town. It was in a shithole. I didn't stay there long, but I didn't whine about it either.

My career did not start with a fucking waste of time English Literature "qualification" and dreams of deserving a place in the media. It started with hard work and sacrifice. I was too busy working on my main job and a side project (that got me my next job) to post on fucking twitter and facebook about how awful my life is.

[–]TheDonald2k16[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Same. I work in television. I had to start at the very bottom. I had to work 2-3 jobs when I first started out to make ends meet. I had to climb the ladder. I am still climbing it. I've gone from market #163 to #89 to #14. Now that I am in market #14 I finally get paid enough to where I don't have to work a 2nd job.

When I graduated I understood that I couldn't start out in the industry in a huge market like New York or Los Angeles. I had to start in Ada, Oklahoma. But a bunch of the dumbasses I graduated with were too entitled. They all only looked for jobs in big markets like Los Angeles and then would bitch about how they couldn't find a good job. Thinking that they are entitled to not have to work in a market in the middle of nowhere, that they are above that.

Meanwhile I understood the reality of the industry and having to work your way up from small markets.

[–]VIICHYVALOIS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For me personally I feel it's fair that I get paid more then supply and demand dictates in a free market economy, and I personally feel entitled to my choice of supermodels and a private jet to bang them all in.

Damn right. You committed your hard work, time, and intellect to make yourself better off. It paid off over time. Talia Jane or whatever the fuck somehow think she could skip the hard work and go straight to rewards.

This kind of weak mentality isn't confined to women (blue pill me) but is certainly more prevalent. Good for you for building yourself up and making yourself the Man you are today

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First job was minimum wage, shared with 3 strangers in a townhouse. Wasnt that fucking bad. I could buy all the food I wanted and still have money left over!

[–]CollateralNerdage 6 points7 points  (2 children)

For the record, Eat24 has very good customer support on social media. I've worked with them in the past and they're VERY nice, VERY good at what they do, and VERY experienced. Eat24 has VERY high standards for them and that's for good reason. This idiotic waste of space in your post was unfriendly, unprofessional, and inexperienced- so they definitely did the right thing by letting her go.

I can't get over how idiotic it is that she thinks that the company- A FOR PROFIT COMPANY- should take donations to assist entry level employees. Seriously...what the fuck is wrong with her? That's the most idiotic, logicless, backwards shit I've heard since my former friend told me that he thought he was "transspecies" and identified as a female cat. AND she posted about it on social media, accusing her company of being a terrible place to work that mistreats their employees and implies that they're not "feminist-friendly". What. The. Hell. This is a workplace with great benefits (she even admitted it), stocked food for employees to eat while they are at work, and treats their employees supremely well. Then she implies that they won't let their employees use PUBLIC soup kitchens?

News flash, lady: you graduated with a shitty degree that gives you next to zero job prospects or future career options. You claimed you wanted to go into media? You could have chosen tons of other majors that would have given you better prospects and better training for the jobs you wanted. Instead, though, you stuck with the most general, most basic option possible (besides Women's Studies, of course- that has NO job prospects or real-world use)- probably because it was easiest and you just wanted to say that you'd been to college. I'm 20 years old, and I worked at Sam's Club with a guy who had a MASTER'S DEGREE IN ENGLISH, and he LITERALLY said to me that the cashier job that he worked 40+ hours a week at was the best paying job he could find with the best career prospects. He made minimum wage in Wisconsin and his take home pay was minimal. You had an easy, non-physical job that paid much, much more, with considerably better prospects for your career than what most of your peers have, and you got it with zero experience. You fucked up in a big way. You moved to the most expensive city in the United States and decided to shit your options away as soon as you got there. You don't want to pay your dues so you can get a better job? That's fine, but I wouldn't expect to find much better options for a failure like yourself.

She claims to be a feminist, but in reality all she's just ridiculously delusional and calling herself a feminist to justify it. (I'm pretty sure most feminists would even agree with that one.) She was rightfully let go and purged from their ranks, and it was a good common-sense move by Eat24 in an age where common sense isn't as prevalent as it should be. I will continue to support Eat24 as a company because they once again proved themselves to me as being one of the greatest customer service companies out there.

[–]TheDonald2k16[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If you have a master's in English you can teach pretty much anywhere. Sounds like Sam's was the best job he could find that he was willing to do.

[–]CollateralNerdage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's not the first guy with a Master's in English that I've met that stuck with a job like Sam's Club, though. IMO you're not far off- it's probably laziness- for instance, if they wanted to teach there's the fact that they specifically chose English as their major because it's the easiest path forward, and not something a bit harder and more well-rounded like Education and then minor in English so they could actually teach.

I'm doing an EE/CS double major because fuck having a social life in college when I can make six figures and have a steady job no matter where I go after graduation :)

[–]slimcoat 5 points6 points  (4 children)

From this entitled cunt's website:

Talia is a newly available aspiring comedy writer living in San Francisco who recently left Los Angeles to pursue a career in hangin’ out, maxin’, relaxin’ all cool.

"Hangin' out, maxin', relaxin' all cool." Yeah, sounds like somebody I'd hire on the spot.

[–]grewapair 7 points8 points  (3 children)

The takeaway for the average high school girl reading that blog post will be "corporations are evil. Vote Bernie Sanders so more of us can get English literature degrees paid for by someone else's hard work", and not, "Fuck! I'd better not make the same mistake."

Anger is when your vision of the world is discovered not to be the way the world works. So after spending a quarter million dollars to get her worthless degree, she's angry that her degree is in fact, nearly worthless. She's just now figuring this out at age 24?

The country would be far better off requiring non stem majors to get a job for two years before college. Very few English literature degrees would ever be granted.

[–]lporiginalg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

SJWs love getting people fired for having opinions on their free time. Double edged sword much? Already the usual suspects (gawker, buzfeed) are pumping out articles about how tyrannical this is. It's really annoying to see people upholding freedom of speech only when the speech in question conforms to what they deem acceptable. That is completely missing the point.

[–]spaceythrowaway 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm an English major who built up a career in marketing after getting my ass kicked for a good 5+ years after college, and people like her make me want to punch something in the face

The only reason why I dont openly call myself a liberal anymore (even though thats what I'm naturally inclined to), why I dont write as much as I used to, is because I was surrounded by whiners like her in college. They just whined and whined and whined and NEVER picked up any real skills. Then they whined some more that they cant get jobs because they have no skills.

I stayed the fuck away from these people. Still wont touch them with a beanpole

And she complains that she only had "freelancing experience". Bitch, if you were smart, you could have piled on skill after skill on your skillset (writing) while freelancing and made serious bank

Thats what I did. Writing client needs some design work? Sure, I'll bang my head against Photoshop and figure that shit out. Need a website? Sure, I'll do a weekend tutorial on Bootstrap and whip something together. Want to distribute your content? I'll do SEO for you.

Thats how you do it. But no, she wants shit handed to her while complaining.

If you follow me on twitter, which you don’t

She is complaining that no one follows her on Twitter.

Well, why would I hire you in any kind of social media marketinf role if you canr even market yourself? If you cant get strangers to follow you, how can you make them follow my business' corporate account

She claims she "makes funny memes". Fuck you if you think that putting text on images gives you the right to call yourself funny AND get paid for it. As someone who has AlSO spent years performing on stage in a band, if you cant stand up in front of a crowd and make a 10 minute routine, you aint funny. I know stand up comedians who got their ass handed to them for YEARS before theh earned the right to be called "funny"

Ms. Entitlement here thinks she can do that just by putting text over images while sipping lattes in her safe environment

Fuck you and your ilk. You ruined my degree for me. And you ruined one of the first loves of my life - literature - for me

[–]Adurell 3 points4 points  (0 children)

oh god oh god oh god. She won't take a better degree because she doesn't want to be "cliche"?

Also, as mentioned, half of her problems would vanish with the coming of a light-borne angelic figure known as...a roommate.

[–]DarkuSchneider 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah this BS is common in the new blood where I work. Wall Street or Silicon Valley are nothing like Sesame Street, welcome to reality kids. I have held a steady job most of my life since 16 (40 now). By the time I could get to college first time(late 20s) I knew what my talents were and knew what I liked to do. I see so many people get into a career because the college recruiter said oh yeah get this hard/expensive ass degree and you will be immediately rolling in the cash and they fall for it. Unless money itself is your true love and passion in life you will not have much enjoyment taking any job that pays the most you can get but you might get to be miserable in relative comfort at least for your trouble.

Companies do not usually like to spend money for people if they do not need them. Entry level jobs are a part of a companies essential day to day operations. The CEO being sick for a day might not amount to any impact more often than not, however most any day a worker is out sick production/profit is diminished in some way. They are not always glamorous jobs or highly celebrated/paid but are essential none the less for the company to survive if everyone does their job. Customer service/support jobs are actually fairly important jobs because you are the face and voice of the company and your actions are directly imprinted as part of a definition of it's brand name and reputation in the public's eye. If you piss off your customers enough you will eventually lose them and hurt your business aka you kill your paycheck. Like OP says entry level is to test your worth and see what your merits and flaws are and if you have potential for greater things in the company. This lets you settle in to professional life if you are not one yet. This also lets you get introduced to the culture/business of that company to see if you want to invest years of your life there or keep looking which is why turnover is high; they are always moving up or out. We used to call it paying our dues once upon a time.

I do not have a six-figure salary and can live more comfortably free than my higher paid peers since I am not leveraged 3-500K in debts for the trappings of 'success' or hate my job. I have turned down multiple 100k+ offers in the Bay Area and even Seattle because you don't get to keep what you earn. It is eaten in state income tax (CA but not WA) on top of higher federal tax, high consumption taxes, high cost of living, long/expensive commutes, and especially retarded overpriced housing in overcrowded urban sprawl. I make half of some of my peers that went down there but have 2-3 times the monthly disposable income in percentage and raw cash sometimes. Yeah they have the 'privilege' of dropping that gold AMEX card down to take a trip to Europe and hope they can pay for it eventually but I can drop cash anytime I want for the same trip and not lose a wink of sleep over it. They have a sweet house and nicer car and some found hot trophy wives they toil to please but that's about it usually.

I worked as a mechanic for a few years when out of high-tech for a bit and I remember one thing a shop manager told me about how he recruited one of his best techs. He was a young Mexican immigrant with a family who worked for the landscaper of the dealership. He then told me about this guy's qualities. He was always the first person to arrive ~30 min early and last one to go home. At 8am he was starting the mower and cutting grass like clockwork as his co-workers were just showing up still sleepy or finishing eating breakfast as they BS'd and muddled around for their tools and started really working around 20 minutes later. At the end of the day he cleaned and maintained the equipment with care and never took off early and rarely called in sick, was cordial and friendly to all. He then told me: I can make and train a good tech, but I can not make a good employee so I stole him. He started him in the tire changing/oil lube shop while he went to night school on employee tuition reimbursement and got his ASE certifications and apprenticed into being who was the senior tech at that time I was there and he was about to go back to night school again for business to become a shop manager himself or start his own shop one day. He deserves more than the snowflake princess does because he was not entitled, he worked his ass off for it and earned it.

[–]TerryYockey 6 points7 points  (0 children)

She posted the letter to her facebook and complained about being fired. Almost all of the comments were supporting her and coming from obvious feminists, SJWs, and white knights. One comment was different and stuck out. It said:

"Dear Talia Jane-

I've just read through your entire letter and have come to the conclusion that you are unemployable. It may take you some time before you understand why, or you may never figure it out. But trust me ... You're just not employment material.

Sincerely ,

Every Human Resources Department in the World"

I wonder if prospective employers, after coming across her on Google, would decline to hire her over this.

[–]AlphaMeal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Those beta comments...
Fuck betas though on the real
They're not worth helping

[–]whippey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Her Instagram is full of food like steaks, brie and cupcakes. itsa_talia if you want to see it before she makes it private.

[–]648262[🍰] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I mean... You're not wrong, but all of us should consider not spending too much time reflecting over these entitlement-people.

How much time did you put into all of this? These posts are looking backwards in time. I think it's better to look forward - at what we can do. You touched upon why entry-level positions are important for example. These things we can use, while a rant about entitled feminists isn't very helpful at improving our sexual strategy in itself. It is just confirmation that these people exist and that they have a lot of feelings they want to share.

[–]btsheehy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This picture from her Twitter explains the entire fiasco https://twitter.com/itsa_talia/status/699851913521553408?s=09

[–]1InscrutablePUA 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I have no problem with people who feel they are underpaid, marginalized, or otherwise unfairly treated, taking to the streets and demanding something better. That they're willing to fight for what they want is actually admirable. You won't always win, like the air traffic controllers vs. Reagan, but it's a calculated risk you have to take.

In this world, you only get what you fight for, not what you 'deserve'. It's why women have been making so many gains while men quietly self-flagellate and hope things improve for them.

[–]jameygates 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Finally a sane fucking post. Damn.

[–]ktchong 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Talia Jane (that's her name) removed a bunch of incriminating pictures from her Instagram. Reddit user Ducks_Are_The_Best had captured the screenshots before she hid those pictures from the public:


Before Talia Jane complained about being unable to afford grocery, she had regularly baked delicacies and cooked expensive meals. She could have budgeted and spread out her food bills. Instead, she spent all her grocery money on $40 bottles of bourbon and expensive bovine meat. So of course she ran out of money before the end of the month.

[–]1RXRob 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wanted to move from North East England to East Anglia to be closer to my favourite wrestling trainers.

What I pay for a large two bedroomed house up here would get me a bedsit or a room in a student house in Norwich. So I stayed up here and just travel down once a month.

It's not fucking rocket science is it?

[–]BlueFreedom420 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Spoiled white female; nothing to see here.

[–]TwentyYearsAgo 4 points4 points [recovered]

Well, she looks like shit.

[–]nodoxsavefreespeech 3 points3 points [recovered]

Screenshot? Her instagram is private.

[–]the_Darkling 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think she made her instagram private just recently. It was public this morning.

[–]LifeMedic 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If I was the CEO of this company, I'd be annoyed if this even reached my desk, even my secretary would know to type up a termination letter and have any senior manager sign off on it.

I had an HR Manager once who filtered applicants by looking for entitlement attitudes. Brilliant man he was.

[–]VIICHYVALOIS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Par for the course in SF.

Her lack of accountability is disgusting. Whatever major one chooses is up to them, how they apply it is totally another. She moved to as OP rightfully points out ONE OF THEE MOST EXPENSIVE METRO AREAS WORLDWIDE and whines about her salary? By her own admission she has zero talent or specialization outside of her English degree..

"Don't get bitter, get better" but this advice is so often wasted. SF is full of women like these, even girls with more experience/better pedigrees making the same cognitive mistakes as the original medium post (great job to Talia Jane for not only typing herself out of a job, and real good luck finding another job without her little temper-tantrum resurfacing).

AWALT in the sense that all women are driven by their emotions. Logic and objective truths be damned, empower her feelz!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have absolutely no fucking sympathy with her situation at all. Although I do not hate where I live, I too am 'stuck' for the time being but i'm working through entry level jobs and saving so I can get a masters. Oh, and ive lived at home for 3 plus years now, as have many others I know at work and otherwise. This 'struggle' of hers is ridiculous and not uncommon and her entitlement is off the charts stupid

[–]CptFizz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can't make this shit up

[–]Albacorewing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

$24,000.00 per year for an entry level job is reasonable considering her background. She moved to an incredibly expensive area. For her to complain like this was just not reasonable.

[–]icecow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So here I am, 25-years old, balancing all sorts of debt and trying to pave a life for myself that doesn’t involve crying in the bathtub every week.

Because she couldn't afford to turn on the water.

[–]RomeBerlinWarsaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a pretty good analysis on how lack of planning can negatively effect professional life long term.

[–]foldpak111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"If I make $100M, I had to create a lot of jobs to get that $100M. That's the point!" -Peter Schiff

You know what employers do when crazies like this entitled whore start running around looking for a job? They stop hiring. When someone is the root cause of their own problem/s (they usually are), you can't help but laugh. Have fun on the streets.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She also posts pics of getting big bottles of liquor delivered to her at work, and shit about baking and brie meatballs and stuff.

Not at all impoverished.

[–]garlicextract 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would like to ask the writer of the letter two questions...

  1. Did you consider not paying $1245 for rent? Plenty of people commute more than 30 miles a work in order to save money on rent.

  2. Did you consider getting a different job? No one is forcing you to work for this shitty company that pays pennies. Why not work elsewhere?

I mean when you sign the fucking contract to work for a company, they tell you up front how much they are going to pay you. Before you begin working. Did you not stop and think and realize that maybe $10/hr wasn't a living wage before signing a lease of $1245/month?

Letter writer, quit your job. Move somewhere else where they pay more and rent is less. You can quit any time you like.

[–]1OneRedYear 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had dinner with friends and family last night and we had several of our teen and preteen children there. I used this as a great price to demonstrate how to act in the workplace. All of the parents agreed that this woman was horrible and deserved her fate. We talked about work ethic, social media use and which careers help you avoid entry level hell

[–]aa223 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess she has never heard of supply and demand. If she wants more money she needs skills that are in demand which she can't gain anyway since she majored in literature. If you want to work for money look at the jobs that are in demand and gain skills and the appropriate degree for that.

[–]bradtwo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do see a lot of entitlement going on in her posts, especially her twitter posts (which are now removed). That being said, it works exactly like this. If Yelp/Eat24 can't provide a good wadge where you work, you leave. If enough people leave, they will either have to re-evaluate their business decisions, or close up shop.

You can't walk into an employeer who says "we pay $14/hr for this position" and then bitch and complain to force them to pay more for that position. This is what they pay, like or leave it.

Second, why the fuck would you ever move out to San Fran for less than a guaranteed 50k+ Salary? I get that it is a "Cool place to live", but get with the program. I wouldn't expect to make it on a living wadge my working at McDonalds in New York.... and for good reason.

But I guess Bernie has most of our heads filled with the idea that we all should be owning penthouse condos with our minimum wadges.

[–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

man, I know millennials are entitled n shit. but this is just taking the piss.

I laughed hard when i red she sent the CEO a letter, then got fired. I mean, how low is her self worth? all she wants to do is get paid $$$$ to " post funny teets?" really bitch?

i think I liked it better when a women's job was chasing a man who had $$$$$ whats the point women chasing men now? if they can just expect to get paid $$$$ to do fuck all?!

[–]FakeGuru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Crazy chick.
Has not got a clue.
Next job will be in the fast food sector.

[–]jace81 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I abhor the format of these posts.

[–]Noolaw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is why i trade stocks because at the end of the day your employer doesnt give a fuck about you. Theres a very steep learning curve to learn how to trade but once you get it you can live decently alone as long as you put some of your profits into bonds.

[–]Equilibriun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If she ever has a boyfriend and he reads this, I don't care how blue pill you are, if you don't run your deserve everything that happens to you

[–]JohnnySkidmarx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What an idiot and what a useless degree. I wanted to be a radio disc jockey when I was younger. But I looked at the big picture and got a degree in International Business. So glad I made the right choice there.

[–]Christophilies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"better at thinking about things than actually doing them"

...does she not see the solution to her problem right in front of her? Fuck me.

[–]ntnclvr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Apologies if someone already posted this.

From her own Twitter bio: comedy • writing • better at thinking about things than actually doing them

So, let's say I am hiring a writer, and I decide to check out their online profiles. I go to her Twatter page and what is the first thing I see?

Ahhh she is into comedy, check, writing, check (looking good)- better at thinking about things than actually doing them, so I won't be getting my monies worth, pass.

I am sure she would say that is just comedy as well and you fell for it.

I am not against better wages for people that bust ass and do good work but are underpaid. But her, I have to spend a whole year doing an entry level job attitude is BS!

Cry us all a fucking river and help put an end to the drought.

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