Red Pill ExampleMelania Trump, Red Pill Woman (self.TheRedPill)

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I always thought of her as pure arm candy, to the extent that I thought of her at all. But just listen to what she has to say, as the wife of probably the most red pill man on the planet. The gal can sniff a loaded question and shut it down like nobody's business:

"Well, Melania, everyone knows your husband hates immigrants. Isn't it hypocritical that he married you?"

"I never thought to stay here without papers. I had a visa, I traveled every few months back to the country to Slovenia to stamp the visa. I came back, I applied for the green card, I applied for the citizenship later on after many years of green card. So I went by system, I went by the law. And you should do that, you should not just say let me stay here and whatever happens, happens.”

"Yeah, but you have to admit, it's pretty obvious that he hates Mexicans."

“He said illegal immigrants. He didn’t talk about everybody. He talked about illegal immigrants. And after a few weeks, like two weeks giving him a hard time and bashing him in the media, they turned around. They said, ‘You know what, he’s right. He’s right what he’s talking about.’ And he opened conversation that nobody did.”

"But he clearly hates women, right? You saw what he did to poor innocent Megyn Kelly."

“They’re treated equal. I see him in life, he treats women the same as men. He will tell you what is in his heart, what he thinks. He will not hold it back if you’re a woman, you’re human. If you’re a woman or a man, it’s no different, you’re human."

Just imagine an American woman talking this way. I think I want her to be First Lady even more than I want him to be President.

[–]Namkcalb 650 points650 points [recovered]

These days, treating women the same as men gets you branded as a misogynist.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 618 points619 points  (13 children)

"When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination." -- Thomas Sowell

[–]redkick 74 points75 points  (7 children)

Funnily enough, I've seen feminists quoting that sentence to male beta bitches complaining about some irrelevant issue as well.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 103 points104 points  (3 children)

Feminists very often have a talent for unintentional irony.

[–]KhazarKhaganate 23 points24 points  (3 children)

I don't understand... Trump did not treat Megyn Kelly as a man.

Trump treated her to insults, lied about his answer to her question, and then admitted to lying to her in the followup.

Then later went on TV and talked about her period, claiming it was hormones. He tried several times to get Megyn fired, that's not something I would do to a man who asked me a question about what I said in the past.

I never in my life, accused a man of his hormone levels when he asks me a question about something I said in the past.

Trump hates women, there's no question. If you look up the past things he's said to women, you'll find that he almost always focuses on visual aspects of women.

When I debate a man or have an argument, I don't go... "oh yeah? Well you're fat and ugly!" But that's what he does with women all the time. But when Trump argues with a man, he doesn't do that. He treats men as equals, and he treats women as inferior.

Melenia Trump is a whore. She's been bought by Trump to live the billionaire life. Melenia is a model.

Similarly, Trump's other divorced ex-wives cleaned him out, for the highest-paid divorces.

All the people that Trump marries, are whores and sluts (models mostly), who are only in that marriage, for fame, fortune, and gifts. Trump is the ultimate beta bux.

Did he develop some better ways to argue with people through negotiations? Sure... Just as any CEO does... Just as anyone who is over the age of 60, they stop giving a shit what other people think.

A narcissist like trump? Absolutely is going to be confused for an alpha. But no, he's the ultimate beta bux.

I don't know where TRP deludes itself into thinking he's alpha. There's nothing alpha or redpill about him.

He hasn't criticized SJWs... He hasn't criticized feminists... He hasn't done anything to deserve redpill praise.

He cannot even hold frame in a debate against Jeb Bush where he loses his cool and starts ranting at the audience for booing him. He has meltdowns constantly.

He constantly goes into the frame of other candidates who attack him and starts going into long tangents defending himself and not even making any sense sometimes...

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[–]KhazarKhaganate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He lies, he misrepresents his viewpoints, he dodges questions

That should be the end of your comment. There's nothing to respect about him.

You can't win a primary without doing that in today's political climate,

You can, if people weren't stupid enough to fall for it. So you're right.

, this idea that he only bullies women is untrue.

I didn't say he only bullies women. I said he bullies everyone, but definitely treats women as inferior. That's all I said.

He does that shit to everyone, not just women.

He does personally attack everyone. On reddit you personally attack, you get downvoted. Yet somehow Trump does it and gets praise on reddit. It's insanity.

He definitely hates women.

He didn't say anything about Jeb or Ron Paul's hormones or talk about his testicles or the fact that he's a man (mainly because men don't usually hate men for being men).

But yes, he does see women as inferior. You cannot deny that.

Look up his historical statements on women. You'll find some things he said, that no one would ever say to a man.

[–]nuesuh 113 points114 points  (60 children)

Treat a woman like a man: you hate women

Treat a woman different from a man: you're sexist

[–]cuntbh 80 points81 points  (18 children)

It's a giant shit test. If you treat them the way they deserve, try will test your frame by calling you a misogynist, and if you cave, you're not a true alpha, so not good breeding material. If you treat them better than they deserve, you're BB.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (15 children)

sooo... how do you treat them? or you don't? cause I don't and it's been working out just fine.

[–]cuntbh 10 points11 points  (9 children)

Mostly, I have an IDGaF attitude.
However, if I've noticed a woman for sexual reasons (ie: attractive and not sleeping with one of my friends), I'll make sure to pay attention to my interactions- kino, escalation and flirting, basic game.
If she's not someone I would sleep with (fucking a friend or ugly), I'll treat her the same as a man who brings the same amount to our social group. If she can cook, I'll eat her food and give honest feedback. If she cleans, I'll acknowledge it. If she says something actually intelligent or funny, I'll go catch the flying pig.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (8 children)

Agreed. And a whiff of pro-feminist sympathies, no matter how hot she is (lol), is grounds for the hard next and quarantine. Feminist women are walking, talking potential false rape accusations/divorce rapists. Kill this blatantly misandrist movement by refusing to breed with it.

[–]CornyHoosier 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Met a woman recently who was doing the whine about "no good men left". She was a self-proclaimed "super feminist" and was a family divorce attorney.

Any man that dates/marries that women deserves exactly what he gets.

[–]CornyHoosier 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I just shrug or say 'okay' and continue on with my life. Don't debate illogical people because you'll never win.

Why should I care if someone else is offended? Being "offended" at something may be the biggest waste of a person's time, as it has literally makes no impact on the world. It's like me walking into a room, announcing that I'm sad and then sitting and waiting for something to happen.

[–]ThelemaAndLouise 5 points6 points  (0 children)

interjecting, but if a woman calls you a misogynist, just laugh. or say, sure. or correct them one single time ("i don't hate anyone, it's bad for my liver"). you can't win the argument, because your opinion is invalid as a white cis male (or whatever epithet they latch onto)

a shit test is a big wave. you're a boat, so you float on top of the wave, just don't look ridiculous while you're floating on top of the water.

[–]RedAsBlood 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Treat them like a bratty little sister.

Dont take anything they say too seriously and make fun of them in a light hearted way.

[–]blacwidonsfw 18 points19 points  (10 children)

I went to a bar yesterday and me and 2 friends (women) go up to the bar and each order our respective drink. Afterwards he turns and says "so all on your tab?". I was like "Uh NO". It's like he put me in a default position to be a dick. Good thing I don't give a fuck.

[–]thenemaxofredpill 16 points17 points  (24 children)

Just study how Trump handles this shit test.

"Listen...I don't have time for all this PC nonsense. I'm trying to make America great again. Next question."

[–]cuntbh 11 points12 points  (23 children)

I don't know his policies very well- I understand the media portrayal of them, but the more I look into it, the more I see the negative skew that the media puts on them. As a man though, I have a lot of respect for Trump- he truly doesn't give a fuck about people's opinions of him, he lets his actions speak for him, and he's doing what he believes in.

He's a fantastic politician, so it would be nice if the reporters were as good journalists as he is a politician, because then I might actually know what he stands for.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (14 children)

I mean...

...if you're a dyed in the wool progressive, you're probably not going to like what he stands for. However, even people with progressive sympathies to the less fortunate (which I think even The Donald harbors) are seeing him as a wrench in the spokes of conventional politics.

Me? I like him because he's fucking impervious to the Left's traditional character assassinations. I read an article on BuzzFeed (some "communist" radfem on my Facebook shared it, and I was feeling particularly masochistic I guess) about how Donald Trump said mean things about women's appearances! Most of the things he said were on the Howard Stern show! The horror! Muh soggy knees! /s

If anyone's ever seen Howard Stern's show, you'd know that it's about sex. And to demonize someone because they're becoming the wildly popular Republican nominee for President of the United States they were judging women on their looks (newsflash: all men do this, and will do this, forever) on a television show about sex and all manner of fuckery is nothing special, and certainly isn't anything to demonize him about.

And people, even those nominally on the Left, are wising up to these tactics... and not favorably viewing them.

[–]CornyHoosier 12 points13 points  (7 children)

I'm a liberal and I'm fascinated about the guy. If Sanders loses out to Clinton I'm definitely voting for Trump.

You're right though, Leftist identity politics is really starting to wear a lot of people down. At least, it's wearing me down.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (6 children)

I am not a liberal, and am generally opposed to almost everything liberals support. That said, I can't imagine that... at least male liberals, aren't feeling a little... hmm, unwelcome in the movement nowadays. I left feminism because it was becoming quite apparent in it's hostility to masculinity.

I joined Red Pill when I read the arguments that... being, and acting like the "stereotypical male" are far from Bad™, they're unambiguously good and drive us, as an aggregate population, to do great things. So are the habits and traits of the "stereotypical female," they're catty, marry up, and manipulative... but if we're wise to those traits, we just become better people.

The world is weird.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Feminists co-opt different movements, political groups and scenes, because feminism alone can't survive. The same way that feminists have slowly been lobotomizing black people, feminists are lobotomizing the left-wing. The left used to be punk rock, it used to be about the workers taking power for themselves and so on, but feminists have taken over and reduced the left to just whinging and other bullshit.

The left has never been more feeble, it's no coincidence that this happens to be when it's no longer men leading the way. The left was founded by men, it was founded on laborers and the real working class who worked in the factories and in the mines etc. TRP and the right can talk as much as it wants about the left being about entitlement, laziness, and femininity but if you know anything about history you'd know its roots are in liberation. Women don't know anything about real hard labor, and they shouldn't have a serious place in the left because they don't really give a shit about that. The modern mainstream left (which is predominantly led and controlled by women) doesn't share the ethos of the original left, it doesn't care about labor or real community. These are just liberals who want to be edgy by pretending to be seriously left.

In Britain, the people who voted left were the people from the North and Scotland who worked themselves into the ground (literally) and the people who voted right were the Southerners with the cushy jobs. Anyone saying that the left is somehow inherently unmasculine or lazy or whatever can go fuck himself.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm pretty left-wing and I quite like Trump. Don't get me wrong, I don't trust him and it's hilarious that anyone here thinks he actually gives a shit about anyone else at all or that he's at all qualified or capable of being the President, but I like how he just says whatever and doesn't really give a shit. I think a lot of people here want Trump to win because it'll somehow shut down the progressive left or something. It won't, Trump is a sign of people getting fed up with them, just let cultural change happen and eventually this shit will go away (hopefully, I don't actually know).

[–]waynebradysworld 3 points4 points  (7 children)

I spend like 2 hours per day researching politics, he is the best candidate by far.

[–]CQC3 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don't follow politics at all. Is it true that the media horribly skews what Trump's policies and beliefs to be more sensationalist?

I've never really given a fuck as to who got elected, but the idea of this whole trend of identity politics in western culture and the strictest sense of egalitarianism no matter how impractical, and the ever growing disdain for being PC seems to have a lot of people rooting for him, and more doing it discreetly I imagine.

It ironically has become the PC thing to complain and say you hate Trump and think he's ridiculous, I think that is significant.

[–]waynebradysworld 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. There is a reason that the establishment hates on Trump, left side and right.... Its up to you to determine why

I liken it to the popular opinion of trp in a sub like AMA

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I had someone call me a sexist the other day because I said Hillary Clinton should be held accountable for decisions made while Bill was president. Like, how is it sexist to assume that men listen to their wives? This whole sexism thing is rapidly approaching McCarthyism.

[–]nuesuh 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I wouldn't say that is sexist, but it does seem unreasonable. Hillary should be held accountable for her decisions, not her husbands. Even if she did influence him.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Equal treatment where they want it, but they'll keep the parts where they get it better.

[–]BadinBoarder 5 points6 points  (1 child)

"Chicks don't want everything, just the good parts of a guy's life. They look at a guy's life like it is a buffet where they can just pick and choose what they want"

-Bill Burr

[–]Namkcalb 3 points3 points [recovered]

Basically, it's this maxim on a societal level.

What's mine is mine and what's yours is ours

[–]PrimaxAUS 8 points9 points  (13 children)

There was a study that proved this recently.

[–]ddiimmaa123 30 points30 points [recovered]

This comment is meaningless without sourcing the study

[–]ThelemaAndLouise 13 points14 points  (3 children)

didn't realize i couldn't link to np reddit. here's a direct link to the study.

/u/PrimaxAUS, i did it right this time.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

It's a student's thesis, too, not a study...

...but holy shit, the student is in college, and is a woman. A glimmer of hope springs?

[–]ThelemaAndLouise 4 points5 points  (1 child)

yeah, i can't find the original study, but it's mentioned in the thesis.

here's the text from the reddit post:

Two studies demonstrated that lay people misperceive the relationship between hostile sexism (HS) and benevolent sexism (BS) in men, but not in women. While men's endorsement of BS is viewed as a sign of a univalently positive attitude towards women, their rejection of BS is perceived as a sign of univalent sexist antipathy. Low BS men were judged as more hostile towards women than high BS men, suggesting that perceivers inferred that low BS men were indeed misogynists. Negative evaluations were reduced when men's rejection of BS was attributed to egalitarian values, supporting the hypothesis that ambiguity about the motivations for low BS in men was partially responsible for the attribution of hostile sexist attitudes to low BS men.

EDIT: and who knows if this is hopeful or not.

[–]PrimaxAUS 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Just as meaningless as any other. I'm on mobile but I'll find it later.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Tl;dr people believe in 'benevolent sexism'. Treat women equal until it's negative, then give her preferential treatment (ie Chivalry).

[–]JihadDerp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just go out in the real world and try it. Report back.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Crazy, I literally went to type those exact words when I finished reading. Great minds think alike lol.

[–]ThelemaAndLouise 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's been my whole life, and i'm over 30.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 359 points360 points  (94 children)

"I never thought to stay here without papers. I had a visa, I traveled every few months back to the country to Slovenia to stamp the visa. I came back, I applied for the green card, I applied for the citizenship later on after many years of green card. So I went by system, I went by the law. And you should do that, you should not just say let me stay here and whatever happens, happens.”

Some of the biggest critics of illegal immigrants are legal immigrants.

[–]Alpacash 287 points288 points  (79 children)

Because it's unfair. Imagine you move to another country, do all the paperwork, pay taxes and wait for the citizenship then a bunch of freeloaders cross the border illegally and demand the same rights you have.

[–]CQC3 104 points105 points  (53 children)

That's true. Not to mention it's typically a different mentality. A lot of people who come here illegally simply just don't give a fuck to even adapt to the culture or even learn the language. Especially in places with high concentrations of a particular type of minority, they can just go on and...just not know fucking anything. They'll just pretend their city is like mini-wherever the fuck they came from.

And you've got all these dumb fucks crying about how you need to let everyone in and how America was founded on immigrants and we're better than that, bitch what the fuck? Do you even know how this shit works? I don't. But I sure as shit know that letting an unmitigated flow of illegals who don't give a shit about the nice thing ya got goin on here and just want a piece, won't contribute, and that's probably not going to be good for you.

But hey, I do see some other sides of it. I'm sure some guy out there is just looking out for his family and lives in some shit country that's got real, actual problems, and he's just doing whatever he can to survive. If that means getting here illegally, being unethical is better than letting your family starve or die.

[–]TuesdayRB 51 points52 points  (28 children)

America was founded on immigrants

What they don't mention is that those immigrants were treated like crap. A century ago, when some guy from Ireland or China immigrated, they were strongly incentivized to stop being Irish or Chinese and start being American.

Hazing, which is basically what used to happen on a national level, often serves a legitimate purpose. It strengthens group cohesion and reinforces the dominant group culture.

[–]bluedrygrass 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Back then, immigrants were kept in quarantine for 40 days. We're talking about Italian migrants and the likes. Imagine even suggesting quarantining today's immigrants

[–]TuesdayRB 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Today, we can't even quarantine people who pose a risk of bringing Ebola into the country. The US and Europe has forgotten the most basic lessons of civilization.

Not every country, though.

[–]maxio99 16 points17 points  (14 children)

It strengthens group cohesion and reinforces the dominant group culture.

No it doesn't . For someone who was born in Europe and live in many european countries I can tell you what it does it's assimilate whole groups of peoples for generations . Do you know why in Europe there is constant threat of terrorist attacks and it is usually done by not someone who just arrived but someone who was born there ? Because they cannot assimilate with rest of the society . Doesn't matter how much you try . Thats why there are Turkish "ghettos" Germany , African in France .

[–]1kick6 34 points35 points  (2 children)

It depends on the disparity between the host culture and the origin culture. That's REALLY what puts the lie to "America was founded on immigrants." America was founded on christian, western european immigrants who were similar enough in culture that they could assimilate.

The current crop of immigrants...not so much. The situation in Europe with the recent influx of savages is far worse, too.

[–]bluedrygrass 4 points5 points  (1 child)

And it comes out, only white immigrants assimilate well with white culture and people

[–]alpha_n3rd 2 points3 points  (1 child)

well if it's anything like the USA eventually those neighborhoods will gentrify and disappear.

[–]1rporion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good luck gentrifying a "Plattenbau" or the "banlieus".

[–]TuesdayRB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not sure what you mean. In Europe, people were allowed to immigrate but not assimilate. The anti-immigrant hazing that I mention didn't happen, and multiculturalism was tried instead.

The chaos and violence Europe is seeing now is the inevitable result of that strategy.

[–]occupythekitchen 28 points29 points  (2 children)

My dad when he bankrupted in Brazil knew he was going to the u.s.

When we got there he lived as far as he could from other Brazilians refused to get international cable and we played with only American kids. In 6 months my brothers and I spoke English, I really should say understood our accents were awful. The other kids from Latin america hated us because the only kid that was close to our English was the Korean kid. There was also the fact we are white and blond so we were accepted by the kids as one of them. I think the Brazilian kid closest to our age only had a decent English 3 years after getting here. I'm not going to lie I had a terrible accent those first 2 years but it faded.

I remember my brother and I watching u.s. television with a dictionary looking up words we didn't know. When our English really took off we stopped using English to Portuguese and only used English dictionaries. Thankfully 15 years later we are lawful residents but it was a tough battle because a lot of illegals refuse to adopt the culture and language and they don't deserve it.

Hell 7 out of 10 illegal immigrants want to make money and go back home, not stay

My desire is see the u.s. stop illegal immigration and allow more legal immigrants yearly. If it wasn't for illegal the u.s. could give much more than 100k green cards a year

[–]Sdom1 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Hell 7 out of 10 illegal immigrants want to make money and go back home, not stay

Yes, which is why it's hilarious when politicians say illegals will never self-deport. They already have by the millions several times. You cut off the money, and there's no reason to stay.

[–]occupythekitchen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem is they get greedy they start with I'm going to save money for a year and buy a house and go back. Then they want to get a rental property, then they want to have the same comfort they enjoy in the u.s. so the more time they spend here the more ambitious they become.

I'm not trying to brag but my family was in the 1% of Brazil so when we bankrupted my dad was ready to leave Brazil and call the u.s. home and my mom with him. Other immigrants wanted to take advantage of the prosperity of the u.s. temporarily but after years here they realize they won't have the same quality of life there nor be able to keep their profession with the same revenue so they push it back.

They were never invested to immigrate they only wanted to take advantage of the economic disparity between both countries mostly the dollar stability

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Do you even know how this shit works?

You know what infuriates me more than anything? The Left stacks universities and media institutions and public schools with nothing but their ilk. They'll whip out Marxist class criticisms and just lay into how "our culture" promotes this or that Bad™ thing...

...but the minute the Right starts talking about the importance of culture in society, they freak out about it. The Left wants our culture to be absolutely libertine and absolutely cooperative, and that's bullshit. I'm a Libertarian through and through, but if your "lifestyle choice" ends up being "I'm going to do shit-tons of drugs and have unprotected sex with anything that moves and then depend on the rest of you to keep me fed, housed, and comfortable" no, fuck you, I reserve the right to shame you as the degenerate anchor on social advancement that you are!

Oh but then I'm being mean, and the Left isn't mean. Except to those filthy conservatives, who argue that the family unit is important to maintain the integrity of the fabric of society, who argue that merit and hard work should be judged positively, who argue that humans inherently possess and deserve the freedom to make their own choices. To say I've departed from the Left is a gross understatement, it's legitimately difficult for me to take people who espouse left-wing politics seriously anymore. These people fucking believe in a fairy tale, a reality that simply does not exist.

To think we can have these lavish social programs while requiring no "skin in the game" is fucking the dumbest idea I have ever fucking heard. To hear these morons legitimately argue that "we're obligated" to let people from a region of the world that has harbored unrepentant, violent, medieval and religiously-motivated hatred for us is goddamned infuriating.

We've built this world-class culture, a society that still, today, in it's obvious and inexorable decline (squarely because of leftist bullshit) remains the envy of the world... and we're supposed to just give it to these people? Good fucking God, no! It took blood, sweat, and tears to build this! It TAKES blood, sweat, and tears to maintain it!

You get to bleed, to sweat, and to cry to be a part of it! I don't think that's asking much!

[–]-Tepes 6 points6 points [recovered]

After swallowing the redpill you want anybody to adapt this bluepill beta century old colonial hogwash sold as "culture", why would people with thousands of years of their own culture and history adapt american culture? that was the mistake in the first place, the american immigration is purely economical immigration, mass migration is man made forced migration, these people don't give a crap about you, me or anybody, and they should not, they would rather stay where they were if they could sustain their lifestyle..this is politics a larger global game beyond your understanding..one needs to understand history, and many other things to get what part mass migration is meant to play. immigration is least of your problems, trump is just distraction...

[–]WaxSimulacra 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It benefits you to assimilate the culture. No one is saying you have to forget your heritage but you're here to better your life else you would have stayed where you were.

[–]Sdom1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's not beyond your understanding, you just have to understand that politics are motivated by simple, venal desires - namely, power and resources. That's it. Everything else is rationalization and justification.

[–]marplaneit 8 points9 points  (10 children)

The thing is people starving in africa, don't have the money to go to US to work. It also has to do with culture, as my parens were legal inmigrants doing their PhDs in US and having some inmigrants a Friends I call tell you the thruth.

The grand mayority of legal inmigrant add value to US, but your tipical mexican are shitting US. Parents don't have power over their american kids, cause they are illegal, they get ass raped if they apply discipline to them. Add to that, they only hang around among them, and they are punk as hell. (I've living in argentina now for more than a decade, and I Laugh my ass off to wannabe gangster in US, bitch pls your 110 pounds mexican ass wouldn't survive a month here with that actitude)

I did 1 year of hich school in US, and these kids thought it was tough to break a car's window or smoke marihuana... lol WTF? Try to break someone's window in Argentina, you will get your ass beaten fucking hard.

[–]AgisIII 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Argentinian here. Where do you live?

[–]CornyHoosier 1 point2 points  (5 children)

I did 1 year of hich school in US, and these kids thought it was tough to break a car's window or smoke marihuana... lol WTF? Try to break someone's window in Argentina, you will get your ass beaten fucking hard.

America is pretty diverse. Sounds like you went to a tame high school. Hell, my high school was full of country rednecks, but you'd get your ass whooped wholesale if you fucked with another students truck.

I remember the vice principle would "accidentally" inform a student that the police were coming by to check for weapons and drugs, and then word would get around. Almost every male student had a shotgun or rifle in his vehicle so they would have had to arrest most of the student body.

[–]marplaneit 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I have a question.

How can the 90% of the student body carry weapons safely? I mean, i'm pretty sure there would be a shooting at least once a year...

16's full of hormones trying to look badass for every single teen whore, and with shotguns. I mean any regular teen fist fight, could easily escalate up to a shooting.

[–]Bonersaucey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Because 90% of the student body has a shotgun and nobody wants a fucking massacre.

[–]rrealnigga 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I lost track of what you were trying you say

[–]slimcoat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

America was founded on immigrants

I always point out that America was founded by colonists, which is quite different. Takes a whole lot more guts to sail across an ocean in a wooden ship to a land that nobody knows much about.

[–]boatdrinks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with your point and I'll take the opportunity to suggest to all red pillers to never agree with the statement that America was found by immigrants. No, it wasn't. America was founded by settlers. There is a difference and it refutes their argument to allow anyone to come into the country.

[–]B_uckets 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Exactly. The process is insanely stressful, time-consuming and expensive if you're just trying to immigrate legally on your own (not via marriage). It's also downright idiotic who they choose to accept and deny.

I have a friend who's a well-educated, gifted pianist (Masters + Ph.D. in piano performance from U.S. universities, plays recitals all over the world, performs with well-known orchestras, etc.) and she still can't even get a green card. The U.S. should be begging people like her to come here, but instead she's still trying to save up the $10,000+ a good immigration lawyer will cost.

[–]_Madison_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Add to that giving illegals citizenship will encourage a much bigger second wave over the border so the problem won't even be solved having an amnesty.

[–]alpha_n3rd 2 points3 points  (8 children)

The freeloaders are the employers that hire them and don't withhold taxes. And frankly all of us who like cheap lettuce.

If we just enforced the existing employment law; hire illegals, go to jail; there wouldn't be any jobs for illegals, they wouldn't come, and nobody would be talking about a fucking wall.

[–]pdpbigbang 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Because legal ones pay their dues while illegal ones take advantage of the system.

[–]battleof_lissa 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I live in Los Angeles and I'm Mexican. About 50% of my family are illegal immigrants. They all talk shit about America and anyone who doesn't speak Spanish, they all sing the praises of Mexico but refuse to live there. When asked if any one else should be "allowed in," like Chinese or Syrians, they will say no way, "because they are not immigrants like us."

My family is a bunch of racist fucks who should be beaten with a stick. Even I say send them back.

[–]a_chill_bro 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As a legal immigrant and now U.S. citizen I will vouch for that. Migrating legally requires work. Paperwork, paying fees and a lot of waiting. I personally have no sympathy for someone who has cheated and broken the law. You want to get into America? Start by following its fucking laws.

[–]blacwidonsfw 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My parents migrated legally after being on a wait list for like 15 years. My dad is a hardcore republican and whenever anyone gives him shit he's like "I did it the right way so they should too". Absolutely correct.

[–]B_Campbell 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah. I'm sure she's had the same experience and treatment as all the other immigrants.

[–]bnine_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly this. Went through that process of paperwork to study in European country, waited for 5 months for visa. Not to say i had to pay for my studies and everything thus investing into country's economy. After all that i got treated worse than a refuge by the government.

[–]420ftwin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are. And they are right. Just ask any international student who comes to US to study. Despite doing well, getting a job in a major corporation and showing the potential to contribute to the US economy (and not just leeching off welfare money), they still have to wait for H1B visa which is like bloody lottery system.

[–]alphabeta49 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Its the same reason I have a hard time not blowing a gasket when someone changes lanes without signaling first.

[–]rrealnigga 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yupp, because they tarnish the image of ALL immigrants and because you don't want the same shit you escaped from to follow you to your new place.

[–]godiebiel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And this is why Trump wins even among latinos.

[–]ObservantOmega 144 points145 points  (0 children)

Compared to Bill, yeah she'll be the better choice for the first lady.

[–]1kick6 107 points108 points  (23 children)

the more important thing to note is what passes as journalism these days. That wasn't supposed to be an interview, it was supposed to be a crucifixion.

[–]alpha_n3rd 31 points32 points  (17 children)

Or it was carefully crafted to make it LOOK like she was SUPPOSED to be crucified and instead came out on top.

[–]1kick6 8 points9 points  (16 children)

fair point. Considering it wasn't fox, I doubt it.

[–]Carpeaux 29 points30 points  (3 children)

You're a little behind the times. FOX is together with the Republican Establishment, and Trump is their greatest enemy.

Look at this: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/431858/donald-trump-2016-campaign-must-be-stopped

Read the comments. Republicans want Trump, but the Republican Party wants anything but, and their lackies are working overtime to try and change the tide.

[–]1kick6 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Fair, but Fox is more likely to give Mrs. Trump a pass than, say, CNN.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Mika Brzezinski, the interviewer works for MSNBC but Trump supporters love her because she's one of the few who analyzes Trump's positions objectively. She has received attacks from liberal media for this, claiming she's pals with Trump. If true, the comment you replied to could be right.

[–]Opanion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fun fact, she is Zbigniew's daughter

[–]alpha_n3rd 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Alternatively maybe they didn't want to be seen going easier on her. Colbert always asks Bernie tough questions.

[–]1kick6 0 points1 point  (8 children)

A comedian asks tough questions?

[–]alpha_n3rd 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Considering it's supposedly friendly turf, yeah. He puts Bernie on the spot. "Isn't that class warfare?" comes to mind. Videos are probably online if you want to see for yourself.

[–]1kick6 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Might have to check that out.

[–]alpha_n3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

don't get me wrong, bernie comes back with stuff you've heard before if you've ever listened to him much, but still it's sort of a needling question I think, hits him where it hurts sort of

[–]i_forget_my_userids 0 points1 point  (4 children)

If you think the questions are not mutually prepared and discussed beforehand, you're a fool.

[–]alpha_n3rd 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Bernie doesn't prepare for shit. He doesn't need to. He's been saying the same thing for decades.

[–]i_forget_my_userids 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Bernie doesn't prepare for shit

Ridiculous that you actually believe this.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I disagree. Mica is a democrat, but she's been highly supportive of Trump, to the degree that both her and Joe have faced heavy criticism for "preferential treatment."

Both Mica and Joe strive for "tough but fair." If this was a hit job, she wouldn't have given Melania so much time to respond to each question.

When you ask someone hard questions, but give them time to respond, you steal the wind out of those questions. Now no one can say that Mica hasn't asked the hard questions, and no one can say that Melania hasn't answered them.

Tl;DR Compared to the rest of the media, Joe and Mica give the most balanced American television journalism in the country.

[–]noobforlife 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Naw Mika likes the Trumps. Melania knew the questions were coming beforehand and Mika has to pander to not look like shes favoring them. If you watch Morning Joe they predicted Trump's success months before while everyone was still laughing.

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[–]-TempestofChaos- 20 points21 points  (0 children)

It's only sexist if others do it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Granted it is a really, really fucking weird picture.

Not that it would stop people from finding ways to attack their relationship however even if it looked flawless.

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (18 children)

I fail to see what a woman's opinion on illegal immigrants has anything to do with TRP, even if said women was married to Donald Trump.

Guess who else parroted the opinions of her husband, during the election even the midst a sex scandal? Hillary Rodham Clinton.

[–]-Tepes 15 points15 points [recovered]

I fail to see what a woman's opinion on illegal immigrants has anything to do with TRP, even if said women was married to Donald Trump.

Exactly, Last person you ought to trust is a Politician in a Western Country, And a Female Politician, Please... There is an Agenda an Political Agenda to this entire thread, nothing more then one fox news listening american trying to lure others whom are deluded to dance towards the pipers tune. Redpill woman, Ask her of how many cocks shes had..nope, this is the Devils Daughter, The Female Dark Tritard..A poster child leader of the feminist whores to be, a refined actor, to Hillery.

TRP Exists, yet most TRPillers haven't Digested the Pill, and carry even lower knowledge or understanding of history, politics, society, and the world around them, and cant get past their "ra ra nationalism" of a land they think the world did not exist before or wont after..

[–]rugratsallthrowedup 5 points5 points [recovered]

Well duh. When you're fucking the literally most powerful man in the world, you don't contradict, you don't say shit, you keep that money and power train rolling

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You do know I'm talking about his 1992 for president where he was accused of bedding one Gennifer Flowers, not his re-election right? Hillary went on TV with Bill and defended against those allegations.

[–]larrythetomato 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I fail to see what a woman's opinion on illegal immigrants has anything to do with TRP, even if said women was married to Donald Trump.

Assuming what you said is literal (over the internet I can't tell whether this is a sarcastic jest). Read this article. The gist of it is that arguments in the public arena are based off absolute morality, and relative truth (as opposed to relative morality and absolute truth). Thus the goal of an argument is to find any single character flaw in the opponent. If you can, since morality is absolute, you are able to dismiss all the arguments of that person as evil (if you have any character flaw, you are evil and everything you say is false).

This is why you will notice that the Mainstream Media is all about jumping around trying to discredit your opponent (instead of trying to actually figure out what happened).

And as a bonus, this is why the SJW crowd is all about calling the opposition racist/sexist/misogynistic/hypocritical/rapist. Once you can discredit the opponent you win. Ironically when they claim you raped someone and you reply "I can't because I was literally in a different country". You don't actually win because you proved the fact that it didn't happen. You won because you showed that the other person is a liar, and liars are evil, therefore everything they say is dismissed. The truth of the matter is not important.

[–]Clarkelol 13 points14 points  (22 children)

I don't see what I'm meant to be looking at here?

[–]1EarthExile 19 points20 points  (20 children)

The idea is that Trump's wife is loyal and speaks straight to the point, while apparently not indulging in any excuses or games. "This is what it is. This is what I think. These are the facts."

[–]CaCacanada 1 point2 points  (5 children)

What else was she going to say in this situation?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Bullshit and fluff? Like 98% of the media?

[–]juanlee337 9 points10 points  (20 children)

i failed to see the point of this post..

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo 5 points6 points  (19 children)

There are a lot of morons on this site that get easily fooled into thinking that certain people are "alpha." Donald Trump is not alpha. He is a media creation who has actually failed pretty badly in his business life. The media found a narcissistic douchebag that is mentally unstable and entertaining and they made him famous for the same reason they made Kim Kardashian famous.

[–]juanlee337 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I still dont see your point. what your definition of success? This guy is worth at least 1 billion dollars with 3 corporate bankruptcies, in which he played the system so his personal wealth didn't get touched during asset forfeiture. You may think he is stupid but they fact that he had investors invest few billion dollar on his idea without having to leverage much of his wealth is fucking genius. I can't even get 10 bucks from my family. shit please.. Sure he may not be alpha.. but he damn sure ain't stupid as you make it seem

[–]HughMannity 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Donald Trump isn't redpill, he's just a self promoting fake dickhead.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo 7 points8 points  (1 child)

People who think Trump are redpill are the same ones who think Dan Bilzerian is a badass.

[–]PM_ME_STDS 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Man she is level headed. Why cant the whiny tumblr femiz think this way. If you want to be treated like,a man you gotta be punished like ometoo.

[–]Sementeries 7 points8 points  (2 children)

That requires taking responsibility.

[–]user5577 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There was no reason to misquote the original interviewer, what she said would have sufficed but just putting spin on it makes the position less credible.

[–]leftenant_t 37 points38 points  (8 children)

Trump circlejerking was all we needed on this subreddit.

[–]KhazarKhaganate 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And he's the epitome of Beta Bux. That's the funny part.

They see him bullying around the other candidates, so they think "woah, that's what douchebags and bad-boys do, he must be RP."

Or the fact that he spoke his true opinions in politics? It's like some people haven't been around old people very long. Old people over the age of 60, frequently will say controversial things and have stopped giving a shit about what people think of them.

Trump is a 70 year old billionaire with kids, wife, and everything he can want from life. Why would he be afraid of losing his bid for the presidency? That's exactly why he can say so many wild things and get away with it.

It's true abundance mentality. It's not because he is RP or read about RP somewhere. It's because he's a spoiled brat who grew up as a billionaire CEO.

[–]ArkAngelEV 0 points1 point  (6 children)

He's the hero we deserve, but not the one we need. So we'll jerk to him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a loudmouth guardian, a divisive protector. A dark knight.

cue epic zimmer outro

[–]500lbdeadlift 11 points12 points  (8 children)

lol, Trump is so clearly, well to any real observer of psychopaths I guess, playing everybody. He slips every once in awhile and the mask drops. He's a massive egomaniac with serious psychopathic tendencies, but then again so is Clinton. So, tomato, toemato kinda thing.

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[–]spacecase89 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If he really is a sociopath, he is a very smart one because most of them leave a trail of wreckage behind them. In his case, his workers seem to love him and his family seems to love him. I have no examples of lives destroyed, which is hard to believe.

[–]Menigguh 4 points5 points  (1 child)

She was coached, fell in line and supported her bread winner. I fail to see the significance.

[–]rossiFan 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I want her to be First Lady even more than I want him to be President.

I'm voting for him (and her) so hard, it's not even funny.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And worse case scenario, she won't be able to do a Hillary and be carried to the White House on her husband's legacy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo 6 points7 points  (12 children)

the wife of probably the most red pill man on the planet.

How is he red piill? He is a woman. He is a narcissistic attention whore.

The gal can sniff a loaded question and shut it down like nobody's business:

So.... how is this impressive? She is a politician's wife doing what politician's wives do.

“They’re treated equal. I see him in life, he treats women the same as men. He will tell you what is in his heart, what he thinks. He will not hold it back if you’re a woman, you’re human. If you’re a woman or a man, it’s no different, you’re human."

Uh, no. Would Donald Trump accuse a man of asking him hard questions because he was on his period? Trump is a coward that only goes after weak targets (Rosie O'Donnell, Megan Kelly) because he has no substance to himself.

[–]MakeEmSayAyy 2 points3 points  (2 children)

She directly and logically answered the questions. Impressive stuff.

[–]HS-Thompson 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Can you mouthbreathers please go make a /trumpredpillmasturbation subreddit or something and leave this one to its chosen topic of self improvement and sexual strategy for men?

The opinions of some 50 year old lady on immigration don't have anything to do with those two topics.

[–]-Tepes 12 points12 points [recovered]

"the most red pill man on the planet"

he is just a puppet who will say what you want to hear, obama,bush,hilery,trump makes no difference..

guy is a shill, a zio mouth piece for the elite who want you to think in your illusion you are voting for pile of crap a or b. most red pill man on the planet, guy sucks to feminists if it buys him votes. american independent presidency ended with JFK. the same guts who pushed feminism and this equality bs are the same guys running you puppet government and sideshow bob, bill, bama and now you hop the trump.. You wana see a redpill man...go look at putin, go look at ahamadinejad, go look at some italian ministers, late hugo chavez.. dont look at trump, abdulla, camron, and the amigo puppet crew..

[–]ComplainyGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So this isn't about her at all, it's a bit of political awareness for trump.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She is fluent in English, French, Slovenian, Serbian, and German. Probably more than arm candy.

[–]Heraclitus94 15 points16 points  (32 children)

Trump seriously might be my hero.

The man doesn't drink caffeine, doesn't drink alcohol, has made a fortune in real estate (even if he did come from a rich family), knows how to hold frame, can take a joke about himself and actually get in on the joke, and knows how to speak and debate.

[–]logicalthinker1 6 points7 points  (28 children)

Except you're wrong about basically everything. The only red pill thing he does is openly challenge and insult people and watch them hang their head in shame.

He can't hold frame. He attacks anyone and everyone like a jealous, bitchy woman. If you don't bow down to him, he throws a tantrum like a child. He's a pathological liar...like a crazy ex. He's a huge douche, and not the good kind.

Plus he's actually dumb. Listen to him speak. I'm not talking about his ideas, look at how he forms sentences. He can't form a coherent thought. His success comes from his ability to dictate what he wants and leverage his already existing power. That's it.

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He speaks the way he speaks because he knows his audience. He's a very well educated man who makes deals with people all over the world on a regular basis, you don't get to be where Trump is through dumb luck. The way Trump communicates is perfectly crafted for his target audience, which shows great intelligence.

As for not holding frame that is just completely ridiculous. He gets attacked and misquoted again and again every single day by the mass media and yet he still holds his head up high, never apologises and continues to say what he wants to say. He is the fucking master of holding frame. I'd like to see you hold frame when an entire nation is calling you a racist and a sexist.

[–]suubz 4 points5 points  (2 children)

yeah lol he's so incoherent and stupid


Trump has an intimate understanding of what good policy looks like. He has for decades.

[–]logicalthinker1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

He's reading prepared remarks. I can fucking look like a genious if I'm allowed to prepare remarks. He has his entire legal team to help him with that. But if you put him on the spot, he sounds like the fucking idiot he is. Conversely, if you look at how Cruz speaks off the cuff, it's the complete opposite of Trump. He has a reflexive and deep understanding of the issues. He doesn't need to prepare remarks; he just knows his shit.

10 seconds into the vid, he called the recession a depression. Lol he was already wrong within the first 10 seconds of the video.

[–]suubz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure he's got some notes, but who would stand at a HoR hearing without notes. Btw the full hearing is over 45 minutes long and he goes into some detailed analysis of the market's conditions and displays his keen observational and analytical skills, I just realized the vid I linked is only a small portion of that.

Also, what was he wrong about? If you're not aware of the difference between a depression and a recession it's clearly you who's lacking in knowledge. He was stating that what was being touted at that time as a recession was in fact a depression which is different.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

He speaks like that on purpose.

[–]logicalthinker1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No he fucking doesn't! He sounds like a fucking idiot!

Other politicians dumb down ideas to simple concepts that are easy to grasp. Everyone else does it, Trump doesn't. For example, when talking about foreign policy, they don't spill out a dissertation about some country's socio-economic history and how it relates to current affairs. Trump says, "we're going to win against China, we're gonna win so much you'll be tired of winning!" Lol is he Charlie Sheen?!

[–]freddymerckx 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Whatever. Anyone who thinks that Trump would be a good president is a moron. I'm sure she was coached and prepared before the interview, she knew what was coming

[–]flip69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What does it say that I view her a being practical and sensible vs spouting the typical american female line to such questions.

I sure as hell do not like Trump or his goddy rococo kitsch style... SURE AS HELL DO NOT WANT HIM AS PRESIDENT.

But I'll give credit where it's due to his mail order wife.

[–]downvotesanimals 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ugh. Fuck off and die with this trump shit.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (50 children)

How many people actually think Trump is Red Pill? He's just an asshole. There is a huge difference.

He is easily one of the dumbest people I've ever heard speak publicly. There is a big difference between being an alpha, and being born so rich/entitled that you have no sense of shame.

[–]jameygates 4 points5 points  (17 children)

Finally! The more authoritarian you are does not mean the me red pill you are.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (16 children)

He's a moderate compared to the rest of the GOP. Where did you get this idea that he's authoritarian?

[–]whats_the_deal22 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Because no one really knows what he stands for. They hear a few quips he said in an interview or some outlandish statement he made and they say "wow, this guy is an extremist asshole." He's not. He's been spitting out some very polarizing opinions to conjure up controversy and keep the spotlight on himself. All the while the people who agree with become fierce supporters. But other than some outlandish things he's said he actually is quite moderate which is part of the reason the rest of the party doesn't like him.

Below is a list compiled by /u/AngryRedditorsBelow

  • No more nation building in the Middle East. He openly called the Iraq War a mistake even back when it wasn't cool to do so.

  • He wants lower and middle class tax cuts.

  • He is focused on American jobs.

  • He wants to reduce student loan debt. Is against the government charging interest on student loans: "That's probably one of the only things the government shouldn't make money off – I think it's terrible that one of the only profit centers we have is student loans." Openness to lowering student loan interest rates and making loan forgiveness programs.

  • Wants to audit the Federal Reserve.

  • Doesn't have any special interests groups funding him unlike the other candidates. Has called for all candidates to return the money they're getting back to Super PACs and to remove special interest groups from our election process.

  • Likes universal healthcare, is open to replacing America's broken system with something similar to Canada but better.

  • Moderate on social issues (e.g. affirmative action, women's health, gay rights)

  • Focus on broad-based American nationalism instead of narrow and divisive race and gender identity politics.

  • Acknowledgement that political correctness is obnoxious.

  • Desire to put America first in trade deals instead of pure Wall Street globalism that exploits third world workers abroad and destroys domestic jobs.

  • Realist based foreign policy. (e.g. deal with Putin if it is in our national interest to do so, even if he isn't a nice guy).

  • National pride. The man loves his country and thinks it is the best. Every country should have a leader like that.

  • Diversity: he employed women in leadership roles before it was popular to do that. And he did it in the construction industry of all places.

  • He has absolutely nothing against legal immigration, he's encouraged it many times. His grandparents are immigrants, his wife is an immigrant, several of his closest business partners in New York are immigrants. He is against uncontrolled, illegal immigration.

  • Hugely successful businessman, knows how to manage money, how to invest for the future and a fantastic negotiator.

  • Unlike other candidates, his economic plan actually makes sense. It would result in "an 11 percent higher GDP, a 29 percent larger capital stock, 6.5 percent higher wages, and 5.3 million more full-time equivalent jobs".

  • Take a look at this video of him back in 1991 talking about how to utilize the upper class to re-invest in America or face higher taxes . Not only is he very knowledgable in economics and investment, but the tax structure he offers up back in 91' seems relevant even today to help alleviate some of the complaints we have about 1%'ers and wall street.

  • He's genuinely against TPP.

  • Acknowledges the danger of allowing mass refugees from places governed by fundamentalist terrorist groups, even if such acknowledgment is not politically correct.

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This is a very high energy comment.

[–]GOATmar 1 point2 points  (13 children)

This right here is proof that you can swallow the "general" Red Pill (or at least be made aware of it - nature of women, nature of men, biomechanics and such) but still be totally "blue pill" when it comes to politics and knowing what separates a supreme alpha from the lesser ones (not to mention the race/Jew red pill...)

Said once and I'll say it again.

There are levels to this red pill shit and 99.99% of TRP has only taken one of 2 red pills out of like 4 or 5.

[–]CaCacanada 5 points6 points  (12 children)

The Trump circlejerkers are just as bad as the Bernie Sanders circlejerkers.

You people don't even realize that you're essentially the same.

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[–]maxio99 2 points3 points  (41 children)

"I never thought to stay here without papers. I had a visa, I traveled every few months back to the country to Slovenia to stamp the visa. I came back, I applied for the green card, I applied for the citizenship later on after many years of green card. So I went by system, I went by the law. And you should do that, you should not just say let me stay here and whatever happens, happens.”

This is where I call BS . For anyone who ever applied for any type of Visa to live/work/study in US is obvious BS . Do you know that US Embassy doesn't have to prolong your Visa ? And most cases they just don't . If you study - they can tell you enough for now , stay home for a while and come back in few months and we will see . They can reject you for a lot of different reasons (because you are "too old" or you do not have enough money) .

And most important I just don't believe her . She had a life set up in US , she had some businesses , work , apartment ,bills everything and she just was risking everything she had going on to comeback to Slovenia to get a new visa (maybe or maybe not) ? If this would be that easy - there would be no illegal emigrants in US .

[–]CuckedByTRUMP 6 points7 points  (2 children)

You forget that a lot of the time I'm sure Don was involved. That man has power. The process when she was traveling back and forth to see him was probably fairly easy due to connections.

[–]1TonyLaRocca 10 points11 points  (32 children)

But why should legal immigration be easy? Every nation has an obligation to its taxpayers to give them the best life possible. If there is low gainful employment in the US, and the cost of social services and education are rising, then why should the government take in more immigrants at all? This isn't a racist or xenophobic view, just a logistical one.

[–]1kick6 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's a nationalist view, which could be described as xenophobic, and there's nothing wrong with it.

Don't let people's stupid labels steer you away from truth.

[–]-Tepes 2 points2 points [recovered]

She had a life set up in US , she had some businesses , work , apartment ,bills everything and she just was risking everything she had going on to comeback to Slovenia to get a new visa (maybe or maybe not) ? If this would be that easy - there would be no illegal emigrants in US .

This, Bang On. Just some whores sob story.. But The Ubber Nationalist cant see this truth, these people are clouded by their xenophobia and one eyed view, oneyetis is what americans have in common, this whole thing including the interview are just setups in their own way, you honestly want me to buy how she worked hard to get a visa and yada yada.. nope..she had connections and setup..

Perhaps xenophillia and learning the original teachings of XENOPHON (redpill athenian general) and likes of Socrates (more redpill guys as Plato) would benefit them. All whom could see through the sham. I bet half the people reading this comment dont even know the two greek giants I just mentioned..both could look at the flaws in their greek kingdoms, the later was subdued and later killed by democracy..no kidding..

[–]Vivacleve 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What do all the acronyms stand for such as BB TLDR?

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