For all you newbies, this is for you. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by MAX_Fury

  1. Never, never, never stay or return to a woman who has cheated on you. No matter what. It is never worth it, you can't fix it, and you will always regret it if you do it.

  2. Don't change her mind, change her mood.

  3. No woman can fix your happiness or be the main source of it. Get your shit together first and improve yourself.

  4. Don't deal with a shitty women. Ever.

  5. Don't be ashamed of your sexual desires or think that girls don't want sex and have to be 'convinced' into having sex with you. When it comes to sex, men are like an on-off switch, women are like a volume knob.

  6. The amount of girls that want their hair pulled, ass slapped, and to be told what to do in bed is astounding.

  7. The guys who are banging girls out of their league are doing it because they went for it.

  8. Look at how she treats her parents/friends.

  9. You need to be BOLD. The sting of rejection is nothing compared to the sting of regret.

  10. Don't feed them with compliments, leave it to the betas. Your eyes should do the talking when she dazzles in that dress.

  11. You want to touch her, she wants to be touched. Be unapologetic about it. Talk simultaneously while you do kino.

  12. Be ready to walk away from any relationship. This also applies to real life, if something doesn't seem right, walk.

  13. Be always less invested than she is. You hold the power.

  14. You can't build attraction over text, use texting for logistics. The face to face interaction is what you need to seek.

  15. Do not make a woman your goal. You're on your own path and she can just join you.

  16. Don't mate guard.

  17. Treat women like human beings, not goddesses.

  18. Women treat relationships like men treat jobs. You may have a fine job--decent pay, vacation, just got a promotion, whatever. You're thinking, "Yeah, I'll probably stick around awhile". Then somebody comes up and asks if you want to be an astronaut at triple your current pay. You couldn't put in your resignation fast enough.

  19. A monkey doesn't let go of the branch its on until it has another branch in hand.

  20. Swing at everything, you miss 100% of the chances you don't take. There are no special snowflakes, they're turning 18 everyday.

  21. If you want true love, get a dog.

  22. She's not yours, it's only your turn.

  23. Hookers cost less than girlfriends and go away when you tell them to. Just saying.

  24. They have their mobile phones near them at ALL times, and i mean ALL, no matter what they are doing (or what is being done to them). if they want to contact you immediately, they can and will. so if you message them and they do not text you back until a few days later, they are deliberately ignoring your ass.

  25. It doesn't matter how long you've been with a woman, how many memories you have together, or how much effort you've put in...she will forget you in less than a week and move onto the next guy.

  26. Women want someone to take care of them but they want to feel like they are taking care of themselves

  27. Dont stick your dick in crazy (trust me) and wrap your shit

  28. What women truly want is value. They want a combination of things that excite their dopamine receptors, none of which come directly from you loving her. She wants your value; your status, your wealth, your protection, and your comfort.

  29. Don't forget to lift :)

[–]Il128 266 points266 points [recovered]

  1. If she's making out with you on the first date always try and progress the sex. The number of guys who get Nexted because THEY didn't fuck on the first date is mind boggling!

[–]thor_meaway 102 points103 points  (2 children)

This hit home hard

I learned my lesson

[–]Monsterpiece42 57 points58 points  (1 child)

Yep, had a date with this girl once. I thought it went great. She texted "sorry you weren't interested." soon as I drove away. Never heard from her again.

[–]kinklianekoff 38 points39 points  (8 children)

A rejected sexual advance will rarely hurt your chances, with the huge caveat of it being calibrated properly.

[–]Il128 79 points79 points [recovered]

Escalation isn't rocket science. Failure to escalate when she thinks you're alpha is disaster.

[–]Hyokaji 24 points25 points  (2 children)

Experienced this recently, fuck me.

[–]firedum 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Old post, but just happened to me. Shit.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (2 children)

it will never hurt your chances.

She will say no because she's completely not into you. This saves you time and is a huge favor.

-or- She will say no because she's making you wait. This is OK, you can calculate how much waiting is worth to you and how long you want to wait. But she'll view you as a sexual being and she will know you're connecting on a sexual level. If she turns that into indefinite waiting it's up to you to cut bait and move on.

If she's going to think "eww, what a creep he wanted to have sex with me" ... fuck that. Move on.

[–]Physio_Tool 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Me and my bro have had several occasions where have escalated down to top off and tit sucking but no sex. plowed too hard so girl got cold feet on next meetup "oh no, im gonna be expected to put out" so they dont meet. The lesson is, dont push too hard past her resistance. A hand full of attempts is worth a try, after that its ruining future dates and u can blow out

[–]epixs 19 points20 points  (0 children)

i too learned this the hard way.

[–]frerri 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Can comfirm. I got nexted becaus I didint push through LMR. LMR is the final shit test.

[–]vipernick913 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yup definitely learned this the hard way.

[–]idontwanttostart 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Unless. Unless they are stinky. I just can't do it B. HOT as fuck? Great! HOT as fuck but stinky? Noooooo.....I'm out

[–]mugatucrazypills 7 points8 points  (1 child)

"Your nose knows", trust Toucan Sam on that

[–]idontwanttostart 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lolol that niga used to say "follow your nose"....yeah...follow it right the fuck away from her.Lolol

[–]Tatersalad99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Meh don't stick your dick in a crazy though.

[–]thor_meaway 279 points280 points  (13 children)

45. Look at her actions, not her words

[–]StupidButSerious 102 points103 points  (10 children)

46. Don't try to reason with woman.

[–]Redasshole 20 points21 points  (7 children)

Don't even listen to what they say, they have nothing interesting to say most of the time, or they try to manipulate you with their words, or it's just drama and you will have better answers to your questions by watching their behavior without asking anything.

[–]DforDeadpool 10 points11 points  (5 children)

As I say, man up and do what your old man does. Don't listen to women.

[–]Redasshole 43 points44 points  (3 children)

do what your old man does

Most of us have beta old man. We wouldn't be here otherwise.

[–]DforDeadpool 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Fair enough. Mine is like a mixture of both, and I'm still here.

[–]BobaVett 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mine is full on natural alfa. Still here too.

[–]anonymousoutrage 95 points96 points  (3 children)

3- No woman can fix your happiness or be the main source of it. Get your shit together first and improve yourself.

I am convinced that everything else is pretty much a byproduct of realizing this.

[–]Synsin 9 points10 points  (2 children)

This was the cardinal mistake I made in my marriage, I based my happiness on hers. I look back now and hate my earlier me for being so weak.

I have a coworker who's about to get married and is so whipped it's hard for me to watch. I keep telling him to read this stuff but he won't open his eyes.

[–]hb8only 20 points21 points  (0 children)

dont keep telling him - do not talk about fight club

[–]TRP_DarkTriad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some people are never even ready to hear about the RP, forget swallowing it. I would say it's their self-limiting BP behavior where they place pussy on the pedestal without even trying for it in the wild. Good that you made the hint to him. He'll be back crying if he doesn't realize RP truths fast enough.

[–][deleted] 80 points81 points  (2 children)

Dont forget to have fun , though.

[–]runr6 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This needs to be higher up It's why we're in the game

[–]TRP_DarkTriad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Men require danger and play. That is the very reason we game chicks.

[–]evileddy 108 points109 points  (13 children)

1 - Her past is a direct prediction of her future

[–]cellular_crash 104 points105 points  (3 children)

  1. Hookers cost less than girlfriends and go away when you tell them to. Just saying.

Put another way....if it Floats, Flies, or Fucks, it's cheaper to rent.

[–]excaliboor 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fornicates. Somebody's been reading Felix Dennis.

[–]5t3fan0 3 points4 points  (0 children)

saved and written on paper ASAP

[–]codingbuffnerd 179 points180 points  (54 children)

36) Be passionate about something. Find a hobby that fits you and then be very good in it. If you can't talk about it for hours you're doing it wrong.

37) Always fuck her like it is your last fuck.

38) Lead.

39) Don't try to fix her if she's damaged goods, next her instead.

40) Compliment lifting with MMA/boxing or other combat sport.

41) Always keep two in the kitty.

[–]CQC3 14 points15 points  (36 children)

When did you or anyone else reading start practicing a combat sport?

I'm in my mid twenties and I'm just starting to realize that a fighting discipline might be what I've been looking for all along. I've always had a boner for technique, agility and finesse. Unknowingly, I used competitive video games as a placebo for that because they offer a small version of that. Now I just feel like I'm too old to get into that shit and I might just end up getting fucked up.

I don't have any delusions of a professional career, but I'm curious on how many people my age start up vs younger guys in their teens. I'd love to learn how to defend myself, and I'm not at all someone who starts fights, but I'd be incredibly pleased to have something in my back pocket in case circumstances beyond my control occur.

[–]MalVortex 19 points20 points  (10 children)

I'm 28, and started training Krav Maga a few months ago. My only experience with martial arts was some karate back in my teens, so I came into this very much a neophyte. My experience so far has been very positive:

The classes are an excellent mix of HIIT, technique and combat philosophy, and physical contact/applied practice. Its not going to make me a skilled fighter in the way seriously training boxing or MMA or Muy Thai would... but I think it trains excellent combat fundamentals in a framework centered on how you'll probably need to apply them in a 'real-life' fight. This is the same general (if not exact) style of training police and military will typically train their service members in. It's not pretty, but it works.

Martial training has proven an excellent combination with my weight-lifting as well. My endurance and stamina has gone way up too. Your situation sounds similar to my own, so I'd encourage you to explore your interest. Find some high-rated gyms near you of whatever style(s) strike your fancy and go take a look. Any place worth training at should be able to give you a free class or two if you call ahead and express interest.

[–]CQC3 4 points5 points  (8 children)

Will do. How's Krav Maga compared to MMA gyms? Would you say it has utility? There's plenty of Krav Maga places around me as well as MMA gyms like American Top Team, so it seems like those are the prominent choices.

[–]MalVortex 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Martial Style comparisons are one of those things everyone has an opinion on. I'm not an expert fighter, I haven't trained for decades in every style imaginable. So take my reply for what its worth.

IMHO, the style you practice is entirely flavor. Some styles focus on aspects A, B, and C, others focus on X,Y, and Z. Good fundamentals are good fundamentals, and there is a certain transfer-ability of skill from one martial form to another once you are experienced. In that sense, I'd recommend finding a gym you actually enjoy going to and has the training intensity you are comfortable with. MMA gyms are great, but if you aren't prepared to bust your ass, you'll burn out and walk away with a negative experience and no new skills to show for it.

MMA is a duelist's art form. You train MMA to take somebody apart in a 1 on 1 fight with certain specific restrictions put into place. To train MMA even semi-seriously is brutal HIIT cardio training, alongside endless boxing/muy thai and grappling. If you want to absolutely know you can take somebody apart, train for it and achieve your goal.

Krav has a different focus. Rather than teaching you honorable duelist mastery, it focuses on keeping you alive. Multiple attackers, weapons, choke defense, getting off the ground, maintaining situational awarness, etc. Strikes are simple and effective - you won't find any techniques here that can't be taught and practiced quickly by newcomers. Defeating your opponent through grappling on the ground is actively discouraged, as a street-fight has a high likelihood of having friends, weapons, or nasty terrain you don't want to roll around on.

Any style you train in a serious manner will instill discipline, confidence, and some degree of badassery to handle the world with. The details are really just flavor for you to pick, and nothing says you can't mix and match over time as your preferences, skill, and situation changes. Much like lifting, the most important aspect is to go regularly and challenge yourself. Everything else will follow in time.

[–]sassypaella 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Regarding utility, no matter the MA you study, you should never fight. There are situations where you are forced to, but 99% of the time your fighting skills will mean nothing.

[–]CQC3 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I agree. When I say situations I'm forced to, I really mean forced to. As in, I cannot even run away. There's too many variables in a street fight. I'm not in the mood to get seriously injured just for a stupid fight, and the last thing I need is to knock someone down and they hit their head and fucking die and then I go to jail for defending myself.

As you say as well, fighting IRL is a completely different beast. I'm of the opinion that if you want to learn how to fight on the streets then the only thing you can do is fight on the streets.

[–]sassypaella 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In that case, I'd say Krav Maga is better than MMA. While the former has lost some of its practicality after being commercialized, it still is good enough to give some clues for a street fight. In the same way, many moves of MMA (such as any ground position) should not be used in a real fight, as they are extremely risky and not worth it.

[–]Docbear64 4 points5 points  (12 children)

I've been considering starting a combat sport as well and i'm 26 . I have been focusing on losing weight and once i am at a healthy BMI i want to have a body i believe in . My point is ditto i would love to know if there is such a thing as getting involved in the martial arts or combat sports too late and any recommendation on where to start.

[–]Bman- 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Just start man, you will lose weight training and it's heaps of fun. I started about 2 months ago and found that the guys there are all very friendly and accepting of everybody

[–]runr6 5 points6 points  (0 children)

26 here as well. I start MMA tomorrow Having the confidence to defend yourself is invaluable and attractive to women That and I have a feeling it will give you a good network of new friends and connections

[–]Redasshole 3 points4 points  (8 children)

Lifelong martial artist here.

Go for it.

Even at 60 you can start practicing, you just have to pick a martial art that your body can handle, and at 26 you are still young.

[–]MetalliMunk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Started at 14 with Karate, got my black belt, transferred over to Jiu-Jitsu at 21, now instructing. Martial arts not only humbles you (especially jiu-jitsu, being smashed by beasts on a weekly basis), but gets you normalized to handling stressful situations successfully and knowing if a situation ever became physical, you could handle yourself fairly decent, or at the least, minimize greatly the damage received.

[–]Strike48 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Mid twenties is usually the median age for most MMA gyms I feel. It's where most men start to be more financially stable and can drop the 100-150 bucks of extra income for training. You wont see many broke mcdonald workers there so it filters a lot of younger dudes.

[–]Redasshole 31 points32 points  (4 children)

Fuck her like you hate her, not like you love her.

[–]Falkrik 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Dammit this has been my downfall. I hate fuck her at first but let myself get too attached.

[–]Siptoss 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Lick it like you love it and fuck it like you hate it

[–]Seishuu 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Lovey fucks are good too, moderation is key, you just need to mix it up

[–]RageLife 20 points21 points  (7 children)

Fucking right, getting a black belt in kung fu not only made me more fit and confident but it saved my ass a couple times in street fights (that being said, I don't recommend starting fights....martial arts for defence only).

[–]Rawrination 20 points21 points  (5 children)

Is there something like this for people with disabilities ? (especially partially/fully paralyzed people) Very difficult to be a badass when you can barely walk and a stiff breeze will knock you over.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Look into paralympic sports and strength training.

[–]TheHganavak 15 points16 points  (1 child)

A lot of disabled and partially paralyzed people have had success with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. One of its creators, Helio Gracie, suffered himself from a condition which rendered him permanently frail, and largely influenced its design.

[–]theeverywhereman 2 points2 points [recovered]

  1. Can confirm. In boxing, I enjoy fighting my opponents physically, but it just doesn't compare to fighting them mentally.

[–]codingbuffnerd 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think you might like it http://kali-yuga.org/?p=487

[–]textualintercourse 59 points60 points  (7 children)

Texting for logistics? Fuck. That.

What is a woman's porn? Romance Novels. 50 Shades, etc. READING.

Texts let her fill in the mental blanks with what you say as well as don't. It's been shown that strong textual game breaks down the walls to the point that when you first meet, it's as if you've been on 2 dates off the bat. Those who use it for strictly logistics are those who have nothing of value to say to keep her interest.

Guaranteed if you aren't, someone else is.

Then when you first meet, continue from where your last text ended. So many drop the ball on this. If you've texted a day / week and are finally meeting, don't start off, "Hey, I'm TextualIntercourse". Just carry on exactly where you ended your last text. If you have half a brain and a shred of even mild creativity, it should be an extension of your conversation.

If not, sure, then use it for just logistics and make sure your A game is on kino point. I make my lays as fast and easy as possible, texting kills it in my world.

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (1 child)

here's another texting point. Absence.

An alpha that I know had several girlfriends. I was having drinks with him while his main girlfriend was texting away at him. He's pick up his phone, check it, and put it down.

I told him at some point (now seems kind of stupid), "Aren't you going to answer her? You're probably driving her crazy." (duh)

He said, "I am making her happy. She is with her friends. I am giving her something to talk about. They are talking about me. They are wondering where I am, who I am with, and what I'm doing. She will ask her friends what they think. She will tell her friends what she thinks. Then she'll text me again."

Eventually he'd give her an answer. But the absence of his presence created a void into which she would pour herself. If he fired off something every time she wrote to him it would be far, far less interesting.

This guy understood on a very intimate level how her brain was working and he pressed all the right buttons. Gave her enough play in the rope, and also gave her enough feedback to keep her craving more.

I was enlightened.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I want that dude as a friend.

[–]Lyradex 12 points13 points  (3 children)

This is one piece of TRP advice that I also disagree with, for myself.

I write damn good innuendo and smut, I write it better than I can say it. I've used text in manners that had the girl on me within minutes.

That said, yes it can backfire (and has). Yes it can fail, yes it can show too much neediness and attention.

But sometimes it works like novacaine, so I use it as the situation fits.

I suppose it's a "YMMV" thing.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

it's an opportunity as well to experiment on how they're going to handle some kinds of information. Tell her what you're going to do to her when you get her alone. She may not like it, in which case you save some time. She may though feel that you've given her license to be a sexual being and that may be a relief to her.

Texting her, "Hi babe, wondering how you're doing. Thinking of you. Miss you so much. Hope you're happy. How is your day going? My day is a bit boring because I'm not with you, staring into your eyes. Wish you were here." ... that's a waste of time.

[–]Lyradex 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Fucking exactly. Thank you for elucidating like that, this is exactly what I mean.

I'm not texting going "I miss you pretty girl, you're so lovely and nice oh my."

It's usually more along the lines of (if short) things like. "Hey Trouble, been thinking about those lovely soft lips of yours. Can't wait till I get back to town and can put them to good use."

This is obviously not verbatim or anything, nor what I refer to as "smutting" which usually unfolds if the girl responds well to something simple like above. I'll get fucking descriptive.

I've had it be a complete crash and burn, but more often than not, It's given me some rather amazing results. I can tell them some really fucked up shit once they get into the game... which makes doing that fucked up shit in person an -expectation- not just a possibility. Also, texting it out seems to make some of them much much much more comfortable with getting really dirty, you can test their limits and their barriers before you even have to try it in person.

I keep it teasing and sexual as a rule.

Also, just a personal note, damn girls love being called Trouble. It's become one of my often used "pet" names for girls early in the logistics because I've had so damn much luck with it. It's like just by calling them Trouble, I already pull them into a more deviant and sexual frame of mind. No explanation on that one and another YMMV situation, but Dirty Girl, Naughty Girl, and Trouble, all seem to give me good results. The more uptight/good girlish the girl seems... the more effective it is.

[–]TRP_DarkTriad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I named my plate Tsunami and her squirts proved I was right.

[–]Battle-Scars 5 points6 points  (0 children)

100% agree. Text game is gold if you're good at it. Women love to read porn and that's what you're providing.

Pro tip: text her at work, ask her what color panties she's wearing, make her go to the bathroom and take them off, tell her to send you a picture of her panties on her desk, tell her she can't touch her pussy and throw some creatively nasty scenarios about what you're going to do to her with your fingers, cock, and mouth while she's sitting at her desk. She will be soaking her chair and drive straight to your house when she gets off work.

[–]Theophagist 53 points54 points  (2 children)

It doesn't matter how long you've been with a woman, how many memories you have together, or how much effort you've put in...she will forget you in less than a week and move onto the next guy.

My second wife and I spent nearly a decade building what I felt was a stable and sure empire-of-two then one day, poof!, with not a single fuck given. 9 years with her and she still hung on my arm all gooey retarded. Then one day I come home to an empty house.

And of course it didn't take long to figure out that

A monkey doesn't let go of the branch its on until it has another branch in hand.

[–]fingers_of_passion 100 points101 points  (22 children)

Stay away from single mothers.

[–]thor_meaway 36 points37 points  (8 children)

Single mothers need a good dicking too

[–]5t3fan0 24 points25 points  (7 children)

then you should wrap it twice

EDIT: this was a joke, DO NOT wear 2 condoms at once, EVER, its unsafe and stupid and probably you wouldnt even feel them sweet walls

[–]usernamewithoutego 12 points13 points  (1 child)

wearing two condoms makes them easier to break

so wear a condom AND pull out

[–]5t3fan0 4 points5 points  (0 children)

true true, i know and i never have used 2 at once.... i meant that to be a joke

[–]Fizzdar 4 points5 points  (4 children)

It's all about the feeling keith


[–]5t3fan0 6 points7 points  (3 children)

and just leave em nuts hangin out! yeah! yeeeeeeah!

[–]ManOfGrapes 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Some of that mushroom tip action

[–]excaliboor 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Love this one!

"I'm a single mom ..."

-"K, bye."

[–]landon042 11 points11 points [recovered]

As a younger guy who likes milfs how could I game them. Like how would it be differently than girls my age 18 going into college Because obv they wouldn't see me as child support beta and only alpha fux

[–]Il128 31 points31 points [recovered]

Your best shot is to read the side bar and live it. Then get on a site like Match (it costs money but the quality of women is so much higher than free sites) or plenty of fish or okcupid even Tinder.

Send the hottest milfs messages. Target age group is 45-55. Something like, "Hi, I'm Chad and I'm 18 and I think you are so sexy! Let's talk."

You will get laid. Older women love to brag to their friends about how young the guys are they fuck.

[–]landon042 3 points3 points [recovered]

I was thinking 30-40 and would it be almost impossible to cold approach because it would just look weird and she wouldn't expect it at all

[–]Il128 6 points7 points  (0 children)

30-40 will be much tougher because the aren't in to the whole cougar thing.

If you don't approach you're never going to work this.

[–]1mojo_juju 4 points5 points  (0 children)

numbers. might not happen the first time, but if you keep it up, you'll get better and better at it. youll eventually find one, then another.. and another.. etc.

just keep trying.

trial and error. you'll get there-- but only if you try.

[–]excaliboor 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Use positive and affirmative language. It conditions you to act, not to react.

I.e. it's "Remember to lift :)" instead of "Don't forget to lift :)"

[–]Nhtmd2 80 points81 points  (34 children)

42) Never EVER get involved in her family issues. Just next her instead.

43) Bros before hos, always.

44) Run from BDP girls. Serious.

[–]TheAC997 45 points46 points  (0 children)

BPD = Borderline Personality Disorder? If so, I'm confirming this is good advice.

[–]wutimahdjsj888 28 points29 points  (5 children)

"run from BPD girls"

Can't stress this enough. My dumb ass got in a LTR with one for three years, fuck that shit. That's why I'm here.

Edit: Just want to add that one day she put on this big dramatic act, and I got tired of the bullshit and dumped her. Doing so much better, got some of my confidence back, started working out every day.

[–]Kayyam 4 points5 points  (3 children)

How do you recognise a BPD girl anyway ?

[–]ryandiy 10 points11 points  (1 child)

She starts by love bombing you early on and the sex is amazing

You feel like it's too good to be true and this must be the love of your life.

She becomes a chameleon, copying all of your interests

These are the early signs, Google for the others. They get you hooked on them (idealization), then start tearing you down (devaluation) before they leave you in the most devastating, humiliating way possible (discard).

All of this gives the sadistic bitches an intoxicating ego boost.

[–]SplitFigure 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Christ. Scary how much this sounds like my last relationship. I ended the engagement once I realized how deep in the devaluation stage I was. Never again.

[–]Nhtmd2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I almost lost my job. My college, My life? Haha It was a mess. Thank god i found TRP.

[–]BenjiDread 8 points9 points  (7 children)

I'll add another voice to the comments here. I got out of a 5-year LTR with a woman that is on the low end of the BPD spectrum. No violence, no self harm, drug use or insane meltdowns, and I was still left a shell of my former self.

Even if they only BPD a tiny bit. RUN!

[–]Falkrik 8 points9 points  (18 children)

How can you tell if she has BPD?

[–]Il128 46 points46 points [recovered]

Crazy is a good description.

Mean to those she can dominate physically or mentally.

For example screaming and ranting at a child for not respecting her enough.

She will be a huge slut but she will hate sluts and every woman she knows she thinks is a slut.

She'll do shit to harm herself. Like cutting or spending all her rent money on a tattoo.

She'll sleep around on you and make damn sure you know she did.

She'll be a huge narcissist and yet hate herself.

I could go on. Basically, a cunt.

[–]wutimahdjsj888 28 points29 points  (10 children)

My ex GF exactly. Except she hid the cheating from me because she knew I'd ditch her ass. I didnt find out till after I broke up with her.

You left something out though, If she wants you, she'll act like a unicorn until she has you. She'll seem like the perfect girl that will do anything and everything for you, then when she has you she'll show her true colors as a sociopathic raging bitch, leaving you woshing you had the old version of her back. She'll drain the confidence, self-esteem, money and happiness out of you to her fullest ability. Yeah, fuck that bitch.

[–]fig-jammer 10 points11 points  (3 children)

I think we have the same ex girlfriend

[–]Flyn1der 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Did we all date the same girl? Is that possible?

[–]Nhtmd2 5 points6 points  (2 children)

AND, she has NO remorse. She even knows what she is doing. Yep, RUN.

[–]wutimahdjsj888 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It's what you get when you combine backwards ass morals, a sociopath, and pussy. Pretty much a succubus.

[–]synthrockftw 3 points3 points [recovered]

Weird how they trick you into loving them at first.

Afterwards, they usually give the cliche saying of how they're always changing and this us who she is now, not was. Bitches be evolving like pokemon.

[–]WhySoRuff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These are extremes and might not be seen upon first glance.

I think the real tell early in the attraction phase is how exciting she is and how much she escalates. After all the bpd woman is afraid of being abandoned so she has honed her charms to keep her victims in awe of her awesomeness.

[–]RedSugarPill 52 points53 points  (2 children)

If TRP was the Catholic Church, this post would be the Stations of the Cross.

[–]FRedington 46 points46 points [recovered]

  1. Look at how she treats her parents/friends.

I would add: and how she treats restaurant workers and other service staff.

[–]5t3fan0 13 points14 points  (0 children)

yeah, how anyone treats waiters and service stuff its something i always paid attention to, even before TRP... it just says sooo much

[–]recon_johnny 51 points52 points  (9 children)

What should have been stickied:

Wear a condom, wear a condom, get a vasectomy, still wear a condom.

[–]Northwesthip 31 points32 points  (5 children)

Wrap it in latex or she'll be gettin your paychecks.

[–]slay_it_forward 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Stds are more of a worry than pregnancy

[–]KorianHUN 8 points9 points  (3 children)

HIV/AIDS : Medication every day until you die (naturally and not because of it) and a minor problem
pregnancy : AT BEST you pay "rent" for 18 years for a house you can't even use on the weekends.

[–]Kalwyf 3 points3 points [recovered]

Or, if you don't want the permanent outcome of a vasectomy, wait a year for vasalgel to arrive. Until then, use condoms you bring and dispose of, so she can't damage before or scoop out after sex.

[–][deleted] 65 points66 points  (4 children)

33) Don't waste your time with a girl who won't put out.

34) Never get married.

35) Don't get into an LTR with a slut.

[–]Black-Pill 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I didn't learn this one until college:

5. Don't be ashamed of your sexual desires or think that girls don't want sex and have to be 'convinced' into having sex with you. When it comes to sex, men are like an on-off switch, women are like a volume knob.

Which, as it turned out, was both Bad and Good

  • The Bad was simply that I didn't get much traction with the girls in high school... second base at best for the most part because after looking at those days with the Red Pill LensTM,
    I was actually talking myself out of fucking these girls because of this misconception that women didn't like sex and had to be "convinced".

  • The Good was that if I had pushed through my reluctance, and what was basically just the standard ASD from these girls, I would have gotten one pregnant and ended up in the Midwestern, Bible Belt horror story of your choice. Something that I saw ( and still see) play out over and over when I visit my family there.

[–]Il128 72 points72 points [recovered]

1 Women lie. It's an out right lie, a half truth, a white lie, a manipulation with a hint of truth.

  1. Women have no honor, no accountability, no chivalry, and no shame.

  2. All women fuck on the first date if they see you as alpha.

  3. No woman over 21 has a low n count. You masterbate, she swipes Tinder, gets a free meal, drinks and a lay.

  4. Women cheat. An attractive woman is going to be propositioned every day, several times a day. Doesn't matter what relationship she's in, she's going to say yes eventually and then she's going to say yes more and more often.

  5. The more attractive a woman is the more likely she will have sex.

  6. You are the prize. You meet women in order to give them the opportunity to pursue you.

  7. You don't need a ltr or a wife. Truth is you must learn to be happy alone before you can truly be happy.

  8. You should always work for what you want. Nothing of value is free or easy.

  9. Money matters. Save your money. Things come and go and never make you happy.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (21 children)

can you explain your logic on #5?

[–]baambalangee 23 points24 points  (16 children)

The more attractive she is the more aware she is that she can manipulate men with sex.

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[–]soulblade22 17 points18 points  (2 children)

I see where you are coming from, but he's saying that you should be internally motivated and self satisfied. Needing someone for happiness is very value seeking which is in turn lower value.

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[–]soulblade22 9 points10 points  (0 children)

No I agree with you completely in a practical sense. In reality, we're all externally motivated to some extent. What I am saying is being grounded in your purpose and not being outcome dependent is the very thing that is attractive to not just women, but the world. I like your microeconomics analogy though, good shit.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

you can have sex because it's fun, and then still be alone and enjoy the solitude. It's not an either/or situation, orbit and make a woman your life -or- be a monk.

[–][deleted] 124 points125 points  (19 children)

30) Dont Fall in love with them. Love is a chemical reaction that makes animals want to breed, nothing else. Love isnt real.

31) Dont fuck your bro over for a chick, unless you dont care about losing a friend.

32) Bitches come and go, never chase them.

[–]ShounenEgo 73 points74 points  (7 children)

30) Dont Fall in love with them. Love is a chemical reaction that makes animals want to breed, nothing else. Love isnt real.

I agree with the sentiment but there's no thought or body function that isn't a product of "chemical reaction" that is configured by nature for a specific function. Your brain is as good as a body organ as your stomach. Your post is the result of neurons firing at the right time, for fuck's sake.

Unless you believe that your soul is the causal force for your body functions, in which case I just don't even know what to say.

A better way to say it is "be aware that your brain and body acts on its own, notice it and be mindful on what you act on". Boom, we hit "love", "fear", "anger", "not fooling around like a fucking retard" all in one swing. That's as stoic as it gets. And start meditating.

[–]InteriorEmotion 4 points5 points  (0 children)

[–]Antacid77 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Your brain is as good as a body organ as your stomach.

The human brain is the most powerful tool in the known universe. There are plenty of stomachs out there, many animals have them, they all work. The human brain is unique in its unparalleled ability.

I would not equate it to "just as good as your stomach". Your stomach processes food, your brain is capable of destroying the entire planet.

[–]AGallopingMonkey 9 points9 points [recovered]

But without your stomach, you couldn't destroy the planet to begin with.

[–]Antacid77 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Its true, you can't commit planetary genocide on an empty stomach.

[–]WolfofAnarchy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think we have something external, too. But overall I agree with your sentiment.

[–][deleted] 48 points49 points  (6 children)

Dont Fall in love with them. Love is a chemical reaction that makes animals want to breed, nothing else. Love isnt real.

Rise above, morty. Break the cycle. Focus on science.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (5 children)

Was actually thinking about that while I was writing this. Rick is quite RP now that I think about it.

[–]DancingC0w 16 points17 points  (1 child)

He's also one of the saddest guy i've seen, maybe the saddest, as he sees the universe for what it truly is lol

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

True. That sadness comes from the death of optimism in him, and cold hard realist logic & rationale. Ignorance is bliss, enlightenment is depression. When you know the truth of the universe as he does, I assume you just go nihilist like he does. Hence wubbalubbadubdub & his drinking all the time.

[–]RedPillDealer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Perhaps a bit more towards MGTOW.

[–]Auphor_Phaksache 4 points5 points  (1 child)

And that's the waaaaaaay the news goes.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Great list.

Never, never, never stay or return to a woman who has cheated on you. No matter what. It is never worth it, you can't fix it, and you will always regret it if you do it.

I'd modify this rule and say that a woman who has cheated on you is fine as a plate and nothing more.

Don't deal with a shitty women. Ever.

Dont stick your dick in crazy (trust me) and wrap your shit

Good advice. You need to have standards. When you invite a woman into your life, even as a plate, you give her the power to seriously fuck your shit up. Check out my submission: Even for a one-night stand or friend-with-benefits, the character of a woman is still important.

They have their mobile phones near them at ALL times, and i mean ALL, no matter what they are doing (or what is being done to them). if they want to contact you immediately, they can and will.

The more general rule: if she is attracted to you, she will find a way to contact you, visit you, and fuck you. If she makes excuses then she's not attracted and she's just wasting your time and it doesn't matter how many times she says she misses you.

Don't be ashamed of your sexual desires or think that girls don't want sex and have to be 'convinced' into having sex with you.

You want to touch her, she wants to be touched. Be unapologetic about it.

Guys need to remember that the whole point of dating is to have sex. You literally need to feel her out to see if she is down to fuck.

As I always say: Start out with light physical escalation but make sure you are following a pattern of progressive overload by gradually going heavier in definite increments. If you fail, de-load 10% and try again.

The guys who are banging girls out of their league are doing it because they went for it.

You need to be BOLD. The sting of rejection is nothing compared to the sting of regret.

Fortune favors the bold and so do women.

[–]TomFoo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Don't tolerate bad behavior. Example: If she cancels a first date on the day of, don't respond. Next her.

Assume everything she says is a shit test. Start from there, work backwards.

Sex in three dates. If not, next her.

Don't let her get away with anything. If she's late, mention it. If she's leaving her shit at your place, tell her to take it next time.

Typical second date should be: Have her cook for you, then thank her by fucking her brains out.

Make her text you seflies before you meet in person. Make her invested in you as early as possible.

Lift, build wealth, crush shit tests, hold frame, and for fucks sake be responsible for your own happiness.

[–]mugatucrazypills 4 points5 points  (0 children)

this is a great list, remembering the KISS rule Keep It Simple Stupid, 80% of what you need is right here in this one post, and 80% of the rest of what you read on here is a beta circle-jerk.

Checklists, it's how Pilots and Surgeons work ... is she sucking your dick on a regular basis ? Check.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Sometimes I wish I could open up this sub and not see so many posts about women. I want to learn more about strengthening my body and mind, making bank and raising my SMV. I could do without posts about women for at least a year ..

[–]keytoimmortality 6 points7 points  (2 children)

this is a sexual strategy subreddit, man

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah, I know. Maybe I'm venting on the wrong post. I'm sure I will find posts about women regardless. But there are so many anger phase-esque posts about women everyday. I just don't care about reading that anymore. I used to like those posts. But I'm over them now. Women can suck sometimes. AWALT. Society is stacked in their favor. I get it. I won't get married. Can we not move on now?

[–]RabbiSwatstein 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Also, get a vasectomy and put your future leaders of America on ice until YOU want a kid. Don't be forced into a lifetime of parenthood before you're ready because of some woman's agenda.

[–]daprospecta 11 points12 points  (3 children)

I get so tired of this advice. You may want your lineage to end but as a man, your primal nature is to lay and reproduce. I personally want to grow old and watch my grandkids play. While we age much better than women, we still age. Yes, you can get it reversed but it's not one hundred percent. Leave your testicles alone and wrap it up.

[–]10211799107 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Cryo preservation 'n is what he meant. I got snipped and froze 12 future attempts. Best decision of my life. I decide when and if I want a kid(s).

[–]RabbiSwatstein 2 points3 points  (0 children)

^ yes. this is what I meant by saying "on ice". Thanks man.

[–]TaroShake 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Based on my experience for those that have been cheated on or will probably one day could be cheated on, never ever try to fix the relationship or bother with any attempt of trying to salvage or rekindle that relationship. The trust is gone so walk away. Simply walk away because any attempt shows that she has more power than you and she will be one dominating the relationship. You don't want that because she will just think of you as beta.. no.. even worst, a puppy who can't protect her.

From what I've read so far on this subreddit, when you walk away you hold the power and that power that you hold is most important for your self-esteem. Don't let her end the relationship, YOU by all means should end it because they say that those who end the relationship holds the power and make the other partner more hurt and more wanting of you.

As for those that are still hurt, try to become the better man. Her cheating was the reason why I was able to discover this subreddit last month and while I'm still a newb, I'm learning a lot of different perspective on life; the ugly truth and how life was never truly fair.

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[–]5t3fan0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

you will never change her mind, so if you want to change her behaviours you must change the emotions she associate with them

(this is how i understood it im not sure)

by the way, this is THE way to train all animals; it works with men, women, dogs, horses, anything "trainable"

[–]BeefMoose 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You lose money while chasing women, but you never lose women whole chasing capital. Stay focused.

[–]RaptorFalcon 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Love my fucking dog, but she is a bit of a floozy too and loves most men

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This as as good a summary as we will ever see in here. I would respectfully suggest an addendum for

16 Do not mate guard (unless you have opted for an exclusive LTR, in this case you should adopt passive and low level dread, and at least ensure she is not out drinking without you or maintaining male friendships)

I know a lot of people might think this is beta but the dynamics change in a serious LTR. You do not need to mate guard but you do need to set boundaries and implement dread, or she will leave/ cheat. Do not offer bread to the duck.

[–]Johnny_Lawless_Esq 11 points11 points [recovered]

This is a great list, except for one, small thing.

You want to touch her, she wants to be touched. Be unapologetic about it. Talk simultaneously while you do kino.

I'm going to voice a respectful disagreement here. "Kino," as as a semi-formal system, is way too complicated, and way too easy to screw up. You don't need to do a lot of touching to seal the deal, and frankly, if poking or elbowing her at this or that time is what makes or breaks the deal, then you need more help than "kino" can give you.

[–]KermitTheeFrog777 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Agreed. But the system is just to help noobs. The Abstract concept of touch early and often, subtlety, is useful.

[–]awoods5000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

2 is the secret to unlimited power

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[–]thepenismightiersir 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Her true character for people who are a constant in her life. If she treats them all shitty, then eventually you will be treated that way too.

[–]joshsoowong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really liked 20. About the monkey. It cn be said about jiu-jitsu. Don't let go of a grip until you have another one.

[–]PinnacleOfHate 1 point2 points  (1 child)

  1. Look at how she treats her parents/friends.

Someone cares to elaborate?

[–]esperanzablanca 5 points6 points  (0 children)

she treats them like shit? she is a shitty person

[–]esperanzablanca 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Keep your big money in a secret off-shore account.

[–]Redasshole 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a crazy ass list. I love it.

The only problem with that kind of thing is it's mostly useless to everybody but you. Those points are conclusions you drew from your experience. In order to really understand those conclusions one has to go through the experiences. So your post is useful to those who went through situations they used to draw similar conslusions, it's useful to yourself and it's useful to those who had some similar experiences to what made you draw these conclusions but who didn't succeed in drawing conclusions for themselves.

[–]TRPKid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mind elaborating on 16?

Also, 25 can kinda be an interesting one. I still have ex's that I dumped years ago that still try to talk to me, love me, etc, and want the chance to get with me again(fuck, date, take your pick), but at the same time turn around and will fuck any and everything. I chalk it up to, they just want another chance at the Alpha cock.

[–]ObieUno 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like if there was a RedPill Bible these would be the chapters.

[–]Skully5591 3 points4 points  (3 children)

These are the kind of posts that need to be saved/bookmarked/printed. Points to be noted on the path to being a man. Keep growing.

[–]1Sir_Distic 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I use an app called Pocket. Saves everything on your phone. Works offline too. I love it.

[–]SheriffBart42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Actually, if you're a beginner, this list is too fucking much to absorb.

Principles and fundamentals aren't just for newbies. They're for everyone. It's damn hard to internalize everything at all times. You MUST go back to the basics continually.

Steph Curry hasn't stopped practicing free throws or ball handling drills.

[–]soulblade22 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I agree with a lot of these, but come on. There are some of these that are super negative and just come off resentful, which if you really think about it, is really beta behavior. I'm talking specifically numbers 18, 25, and maybe 22.

[–]Falkrik 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sure it may be negative, but it is also realistic. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

[–]5t3fan0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i believe truth is neither positive or negative, its truth

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[–]ProductivityMonster 7 points8 points  (0 children)

As with most rules governing complex human interactions, they were meant to be interpreted with discretion and human intuition, but I think it's useful to list the exceptions.

[–]5t3fan0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this post and the comment below are pure gold, so pure its sparkling light all over me and my retinas are burning with truth!

deserves sidebar imo

[–]Lord_Trolldermort 0 points1 point  (4 children)

What does TRP have to say about ethnic men who's social value is actually lower?

Eg. I am Asian. Most white women do not like me. Poor matches on Tinder, even in "diverse" cities. Asians are considered to have the worst men. After right swiping thousands of times, most matches were other Asian women (60%), followed by black (15%), white (20%), and other (middle eastern / Indian, 5%)

[–]smokecheck1976 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A. You are doing better than I ever do on those sites.

B. Most women aren't on Tinder. You, like me, are going to have to get your ego bruised and make approaches in person.

Honestly, even getting rejected in person is more fun than Tinder.

Honestly, I wish I got more likes by Asian women. I find their company to generally be the most pleasant.

[–]Johndoesmith67 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Lift and lose body fat. Don't powerlift. Get some mass then drop body fat. This is accurate.

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