Blue Pill ExampleGuy on OKCupid subreddit needs emotional support, displays vulnerability in front of his girlfriend. Guess what happens next. (self.TheRedPill)

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Summary: Women make absolutely terrible emotional support. She needs her man to be a rock, and if he isn't then she'll take her pussy elsewhere. Do not rely on a woman to help you out through hard times. Talk to your male friends instead; they will actually care and support you.

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Those who read my threads know I don't hold back any punches. When a man is acting like a beta bitch, I call him a beta bitch. It's the only way they learn. But this thread on the OKCupid subreddit tugged at my heartstrings a little bit and I'm having trouble being mean to the dude. It's just sad.

OP has been in a relationship with a girl who is always clingy (read: relies on him as a strong alpha rock). The moment - and I mean the moment he displays vulnerability by admitting that he's worried about passing final exams, her face puckers up and her vagina clamps shut like the security gates at Fort Knox. A few days later she breaks up with him. Read his words for yourself to really absorb what female nature is like...

Mine: It was during the last days of finals. She was already done with hers and had gone home for a few days. She came back to pack up her stuff. I tagged along to help. We pack up her belongings and go down to the pizzeria downstairs. We sit down with our food and shes tells me she wants to break up out of nowhere. Im like what? Shes like ive been too clingy this past week and she cant handle it. I tell her wtf, you've been clingy our whole relationship shes like I know but its unattractive when a guy acts like it. Im taken back, I just wanna stab her with my fork at this point. She eats her food and I dont even touch mine.

We head back to my apartment where she collects the stuff she had left over. She tells me shes going back home today. I'm like stay the night so we can talk and try to fix things. Shes like no shes done. I tell her to call me or text me so I know she got home safe she never does. I had a final the next day but i was too heartbroken and confused to study.

The next day I take my final which I fail. She was suppose to be my ride back from my final to my apartment, but obviously she was gone. I check for the shuttle and its broken down and theres a 2 hour wait. It's a sunday so all the college buildings are locked. I start walking back to my apartment which is 5 miles away. On my way home I walk past our fav eatery when its starts pouring rain. At that very moment is when I felt the saddest most alone in my life.

She didn't look back or feel a shred of remorse. Hell, she didn't even feel emotional enough to stop eating her food during the conversation. And that's the female imperative. "Weakness and vulnerability detected. Abort relationship, branch swing immediately. Bzzzt. In ten, nine, eight..."

The thing is, we at RedPill know this so we don't fall into these traps ourselves and end up getting hurt later. If only OP was clued in to what women are really like, he could have build up some resilience ahead of time, resolved to not display weakness in front of his girlfriend, passed his exams and continued to get sex from her. And hey, who knows, maybe this will be the electric shock to finally wake him up. Maybe this will be the moment he understands that the only person you should emotionally rely on is your mother and your male friends. That's it. Males have empathy, we understand what difficult times are like. We'll help you commiserate over boxing gloves or a stout at the local bar. Females? Females will leave you to go snuggle up with Chad the minute you drop the ball.

Some of the commenter stories in that thread are also enlightening...

Wife cheated, Found out, wanted it to work but the guy she was cheating with had a really fat bank balance which I could never match with my pay grade.

Served me Divorce paper at work out of no where. I went to the rooftop at work, cried like a bitch and lit up a cigarette & burned her pic that I had in my wallet. Saddest day of my life.

Yep. The other guy had Alpha vibes so strong that hubby just couldn't compete.

For nearly four years of coupledom, she'd been asking me to be more emotionally open. Practically begging, at times. I've never been one to talk about my feelings much, and I default to dealing with my problems on my own rather than sharing them with other people. She was very much the opposite: regular sharer, always stressing the need for healthy communication in a relationship, big believer in non-violent communication and so on. It was always a sticking point between us.

Anyway, I'm self-employed, and a few months ago I lost a couple of big clients in quick succession. For once, I opened up to her about it. I told her that I didn't know which direction I was going in, that I felt hopeless, that I didn't know what I was going to do to make sure I could keep paying rent. Well, that was the end of the relationship. Lesson learned, I guess.

^ Four years. These guys were together FOUR YEARS. And as soon as the woman detects that the meal ticket is almost expired, she ejects. Because he failed the biggest shit test in the book, he succumbed to her nagging that she wanted a more "emotionally open man".

Caught my wife cheating of 20 years with coworkers, again. Self confidence had already paid too much a price so I packed my shit up and left.

Had a couple of counseling appointments where her only responses were that it was my fault. Ditched her and my entire friend circle that rallied behind her because I was the asshole. I did nothing wrong that couldn't have been fixed with proper communication, and I lost literally everything and no support system to get me through it.

Came out the other end a tough mother fucker.

^ I wanted to leave this above post for the end because it leaves us on an optimistic note. This guy's wife cheated, he got divorced, tried to go to "couple's counseling" like a good little Beta Bob. Finally grew a spine and ditched his old toxic life to start anew, became a tough motherfucker and is now on top of the world. This is what OP needs to do. He needs to swallow the RedPill and understand that it's up to us, as men, to forge our own path in life. Our women will not help us.

Women only have two purposes. Sex, and passive feminine support that feels good but is contingent on you having your shit together (like cooking dinner, giving backrubs, decorating the house, entertaining guests at dinner parties, etc). Those two are the only things she can ever give you. Don't expect more.

Every man has a story like OP's that jolted him and exposed him to reality. What's your story?

TL;DR: Women are awful at giving any kind of support when your luck is down. Rely on men, not women. The only use girls have is sex and passive feminine energy.

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    [–]yaysmr 162 points163 points  (110 children)

    Seriously. I've seen men dumped on their birthdays, in the wake one of their parents dying, and of course when they're recovering from an injury or suffering from some grievous disease.

    They've made the decision to pull the eject lever, they're not going to time it for your convenience, even though it would just require the barest amount of patience. Can't put her life on hold to help someone else out, no sireeeeeee!

    You can maybe argue that she doesn't realize how much impact her leaving has, but even so, its common sense to not make those sort of changes during important/traumatic events. But we also know they like to be the center of attention...

    [–]103342 149 points150 points  (53 children)

    Women love to see a guy suffering after she leaves, makes her feel like she did the right choice.

    In my personal experience most women will CHOOSE the absolute most devastating moment to breakup, just so she won't see him getting up easily after the breakup.

    [–]_the_shape_ 60 points61 points  (4 children)

    Women love to see a guy suffering after she leaves, makes her feel like she did the right choice.

    Of course. If a guy ever hears "I'm afraid to hurt you" from another girl, it simply means she perceives him as weak (read: unattractive) in her eyes, not 'vulnerable' in some beta-ass endearing sense, so a guy suffering after being broken up with, in her mind, essentially amounts to "you just got rid of a pathetic beta - nothing to second guess here".

    I spoke with a friend recently who crossed paths with my ex - the one who led me to TRP almost two years ago now - and according to him, he asked her "why'd you leave him?", to which she insisted "no, he left me!" He told me that he suggested to her that she call me (as if I want to hear from her), and that she replied: "he'd probably hang the phone up on me if I tried". True story, of course, was that I did the classic beta-backslide over the course of the relationship and desperately tried to get back on top by going alpha at the end (failed: only led her to see me as an asshole - that is, a disobedient beta), and she called it off.

    Women can publicly go one of two ways following a breakup they initiated: the poor, hapless victim route ("I had to do it! The pain was unbearable! Shower me with sympathy and pity!") or the strong, brave empowered girl route ("I was settling!" "I can do better!" "you go gyrl!")

    [–]Joseph_the_Carpenter 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    (failed: only led her to see me as an asshole - that is, a disobedient beta)

    Yes, in this case the best course of action (assuming it's figured out first) is to break up with her as she would with you: "out of the blue," no explanation, no contact after. It will be better for you in the short term because it saves the trouble of trying to save/change a relationship and become the disobedient beta instead of the alpha you want to be, and will give you the upperhand in the long term dynamics with her in the future, with the side-effect of devastating her self-image (how dare that beta loser dump me, who does he think he is?).

    [–]yaysmr 17 points18 points  (39 children)

    I really would hate to believe that, for sure. I usually chalk it up to them wanting to either recenter attention on themselves and their emotions or to cover up their act with other events, rather than a desire to knock him down further.

    Although I am sure that there exist women who maliciously plan the breakup weeks or months in advance to cause the largest impact possible.

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 12 points13 points  (8 children)

    I don't think it's a planned thing. I think it's more that perhaps there is tension in the air and that triggers them to march. That tension could be your family death, illness, man becomes needy, whatever stirs their anxiety.

    [–]yaysmr 3 points4 points  (3 children)

    Guess that's true. She could be waffling on it for a long while, and then the emotional punch of trauma finally pushes her into action...

    She doesn't feel the right emotional weight until the surrounding events bring the emotional context to an apex, THEN she feels strongly enough to act.

    [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Exactly. In guy terms, it would be like the nervous jitters right before a physical altercation. You're ready, but don't want to start it. Then he spits at you or shoves you or whatever. BOOM, it's on.

    [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (27 children)

    You don't understand women then. They are evil. They love being hurt by alphas, and they love hurting betas.

    [–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (23 children)

    The word you are looking for is "wicked".

    Meaning they aren't planning constantly to hurt people, or doing so in a conscious way. They just do if the right situation arouses. They have no self control. They are slaves to evil should that be allowed by society, not evil themselves. They just submit to the dominant current. To us, wrong is evil. To them, weakness is evil. Different viewpoints. One lacks strategy, one lacks ethic.

    My personal definition of wicked as i came to define it in face of women and DT men misdeeds: lacking a spirit. They only are a body filled with instinct.

    Nobody can be "evil" one can only do "evil". Persons that just end up doing or aspiring to do evil are just wicked.

    Old days they would say a "Belial's son" where Belial meant: worthless person. Women are worthless in spirit (on men vocabulary: worthless person), that's all.

    Do not trust them, but do not demonize them. They are slaves to the waves of physical reality. I don't even say this to benefit them, but ponder this:

    The exact reason women are wicked is because they look outside of themselves to find the reason they are shitty as they are. If you believe that woman shittyness is evil, you will concede frame to the world motions just as they do.

    Instead, recognize their reactive nature, and let them go on their wicked way without resentment (nor need to help). We shall know better than them... focus on the inside. That's where you can find happyness. Or atleast that's the path that is working for me the most.

    [–]PeanutFlavor 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    Well said! Wicked is a perfect word for them.

    I KNOW for fact that most women don't seek to do this stuff, it's just their nature to the things they do. Hell or high water, their quest in life is comfort...be it financial, emotional, etc. They are like children. They know nothing besides immediate want. We all should know that taking the Red Pill is about understanding these traits and being able to navigate around this behavior so that we can adapt and manipulate it so that civilized society can continue to run along to the benefit of us all. When men are the hunters..women tend to be more satisfied. The reason why they are acting out so much these last couple of decades is because a lot of us are no longer hunters. We are the ones who allowed this by forgetting where we stand in the food chain. We got too comfortable.

    So the idea is not to fight a woman's nature, because fighting it is absolutely futile. It's biological and too deeply ingrained in their psyche. However, we can absolutely out-adapt them and out-frame them--especially the generation of women coming up now. They are COMPLETELY unprepared for an educated, abundant male.

    Luke 23:34 "...they know not what they do, Lord" is a perfect line for women. They truly are unaware of anything else other than themselves and their children (and even that's falling off, given how many women are out there neglecting, abusing and killing their children).

    Absolutely spot on, man. "Do not trust them, but don't demonize them." I love that.

    [–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (16 children)

    Women are garbage and they know they are. They all hate themselves deep down. That's why they shit on any man who treats them nice because they know they dont deserve it. Women love DT men because DT men give them the sadistic psychopathic tingles that hurt them emotionally and make them feel alive.

    And I do believe that women conciouslh hurt men. They don't care. All men are is a dick, muscles, and a wallet. Women aren't capable of love. Not even alphas. They just lust after alpha genes but they don't love.

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    [–]AnAbsoluteSith 7 points8 points  (9 children)

    I don't know why this is taking so long to settle in my thick skull

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Expand this comment into its own thread.

    [–]Mithra9009 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    What if she is trying to deflect feelings of guilt though? What if they do this because they want to feel morally justified in what they've done? What if they want to believe that your fall was your fault so it would have happened, with or without her? Then she, for the sake of maintaining her self-image/ego, would need to see you fall.

    Or perhaps it really is sadistic. Maybe women like seeing their trail of destruction (miserable ex-boyfriends) because it reminds them of how much power they have. Conversely, seeing a man recover quickly implicitly suggests her powerlessness/lack of importance.

    [–]saibot83 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Reminds me of a female "friend" I had in my blue pill days. I was pining for her badly and while I did get to tap her eventually this was before that.

    She was seeing a guy (a douche with a huge dick and a hot shot tv job) and was getting ready for a party one night. With barely concealed glee/joy she boasted about how jealous that guy's ex was going to be. They were gonna be at the same party and she could not wait to get there to see what drama would unfold. It shocked me and disgusted me deeply at the time.

    I'd say they do have a definite streak of maliciousness in them to some degree. The same girl tore my heart out after I'd gotten into her pants. BP me naturally fell completely for her (she was my first anything) and the utter coldness she showed towards me when I caught full on oneitis was the most brutal thing I've ever experienced. Fucked me up for a looong time.

    In hindsight it was good that I got that experience that early on (at 24) but man did it crush me completely at the time.

    [–]Jigsus 20 points21 points  (3 children)

    My LTR left when my parent got cancer. She supported me verbally but formally ended our relationship. She went from fiancee to friend in a few weeks.

    [–]MarlboroMan62 17 points18 points  (6 children)

    good point about the birthday ... i have never had a wife or GF give me a decent birthday. i think i had one decent birthday through the years.

    they always come home crying about .... whatever. you see, it is all about them and they will make sure of that on any special occasion.

    if you want a decent birthday, you better plan it yourself ... i usually buy myself a new guitar or a gadget.

    as a result, i have a huge cobb up my ass about birthdays. i stir it up at church when they recognize some folks birthday and not others, i let them know about it. recognize all or none.

    [–]PeanutFlavor 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    On the new guitar front...YES. The girl that I used to live with used to get me such fucking cheap (yet fairly thoughtful) gifts and I used to get her super-useful/kind of expensive stuff. One year I said "fuck it", and bought her a couple of cheap ass giftcards and come home from break with a reissue '58 Les Paul and a ton of vinyl records all for myself with that sweet bonus pay from work. Wish I still had her (the guitar). I've got a reissue '63 Firebird now and I'm buying a reissue '67 Flying V later this summer, after I move into the city. Fuck, I love being single :)

    [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    What was her reaction to the cheap gift? Theres a hilarious thread on here a while back called "Be a Skittles man" where the guy talks about only buying his women packs of skittles as gifts.

    [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (3 children)

    Often men get dumped/cheated on during the worst/most challenging times in their lives simply because they're not holding up as well. Nothing turns a woman off more than seeing a man struggle. I'm still trying to fully wrap my head around why women never seem to take circumstances into account, but I think it's simply that they are so driven by emotion that any logic flies right out the door as soon as their natural instincts take over.

    I see a lot of guys in the hospital who will talk semi-openly about knowing their wives are cheating on them while they're getting treatment for a debilitating disease. It's heartbreaking. Hypergamy is very real. Build your life and happiness on anything but a woman's love and support. Friendship, family, career, hobbies, anything but women.

    [–]bluedrygrass 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    simply because they're not holding up as well.

    But that's evidently false. It's absolutely normal to feel sad for the death of your parents, or for discovering to have cancer. It doesn't mean you're giving up, you're not fighting. Most men take those things very well actually. Only to find out that for some reasons their bitches have left in the meantime. You don't have to do anything wrong. It seems that it all comes down to bitches doing the most stupidest and selfish things in the most inappropiate moments. It gives quite some strong feelings. And feelings are good.

    [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 13 points14 points  (20 children)

    You can maybe argue that she doesn't realize how much impact her leaving has,

    No, you can't. The problem isn't lack of awareness, it's lack of giving a shit.

    [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (11 children)

    Wassup bro. Would you agree on my assessment that bitches are inherently sociopathic?

    I do genuinely believe that all women are sociopaths deep down. Not that there's anything wrong with that because I'm fucked up too, the difference is I don't act like an innocent angel.

    [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (6 children)

    I believe most people have sociopathic tendencies. At the very least, we are all inherently obsessed with out own self-interest. Look at the behavior of alphas. An objective look at what alphas do to their women and the people around them clearly shows that they are every bit as "evil" or "immoral" as women. Alphas cheat, they leave their wives/families for secretaries and assistants, they fuck over the little guys in business, and generally use the backs of others as stairs to the top.

    So why is it women who tend to exhibit these tendencies more? Opportunity. In the hierarchy of the social world, alphas trump women and women trump betas. So compared to your average male, women simply have far, far more opportunity to fuck over others in the name of self-interest, and alphas have more opportunity than anyone (the difference is that they create that opportunity themselves, unlike women).

    As far as your comment about acting like an innocent angel goes, don't make it a point of resentment or even judgement. Women act like innocent angels because it is in their own self-interest. You can't blame a woman for acting innocent any more than you can blame an alpha for acting confident even in his weakest moments.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Thats an interesting thought. I know im sociopathic, but im not a sociopath. I disagree on the morality of women tho. Sure, there are selfish evil men (myself included somewhat. I'm not as evil as I am fucked up and not very empathetic. Like a mix of amoral/immoral) But there are good men too, regardless of our primal nature. Women are all immoral/amoral deep down. Morals (integrity, honor, loyalty) are male constructs. Women do not innately have them. They don't have them at all, regardless of how much they parrot that they do.

    I don't know how I feel about morality tbh. Its kind of subjective. In the game of social Darwinism, morality has no place. The strong survive, the weak die. That simple. However when it comes to tribe cohesiveness, morality is important. I think the reason men developed morality is because we needed it in tribal situations so we knew our bretheren had each others backs for the good of the group.

    Fair enough. I just hate how deluded most men are about women.

    [–]yaysmr 3 points4 points  (7 children)

    We're talking about a lack of empathy here, if the woman is able to sever the connection quickly and cleanly, they might not even realize that the guy is going to be reeling for days/weeks.

    Depends on how much awareness you want to credit them with.

    [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 18 points19 points  (4 children)

    they might not even realize that the guy is going to be reeling for days/weeks.

    They know. Women are super intelligent about emotional stuff.

    I credit them with complete awareness of all their actions. The pretending-to-be-innocent thing wears thin pretty fast.

    [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

    I've come to the conclusion that they ask us be open with our emotions to learn when we are on the ropes so they know when to bail. They've never helped.

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Exactly. They're looking for ammo to manipulate you.

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    This, exactly. They aren't amoral, they're immoral. They know what they do. They're little master decievers. Demons with the faces of angels. Kinda like Lucifer. I've had girls tell me the fucked up shit they do to their orbiters and betas. Women are literally the devil.

    [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

    Women have 0 empathy for men. None. Any that seem like they do geniunely, they're faking. Women are master manipulators, they care for no one but themselves.

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      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      This. Women want alpha genes. Women have no loyalty.

      [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      "common sense"......missing from the female mind, usually.

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        [–]FiveLions 7 points8 points  (3 children)

        Mine was the PCAT..and guess what? He was like a little brother to her.

        That was 10 years ago . I'm in an ltr, but I will never marry her or anyone. I think she finally believes me. She'll probably be on the carousel soon and I'll be ready again with this one AWALT.

        In case youre wondering, I run a small business. Had a 3.3 gpa in pre pharm. Nowhere near competitive enough to get in anyway.

        [–]GaySwanson 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        How I came here was an extremely similar scenario. Mine was less than a month ago. The girl kept saying she wanted to get married and what not, I thought the relationship was good, tells me she kissed another guy (we were in a distance LTR). I dumped her the next day. Learned from another past relationship about that. But it was a few weeks before my finals so what do you know.

        I found TRP a few days afterward by complete accident from someone who linked it from some front page thread. I didn't expect anything like that from her. Neither did any of my friends. So I've been taking in a lot here and it's going well so far. Definitely AWALT.

        [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 10 points11 points  (4 children)

        Came in to say that. What a cunt, although it was probably subconscious. She just made sure he would fail so she wouldn't get some feelz later and come back to him. AWALT. I am discovering that women (every single one of them) are not empathetic at all. They talk about it, rant about wanting it, profess to needing it from their mates, but never will they empathize with you. They may say "aww, honey, I'm sorry you had axyz123" and snuggle up, but the "fuck this loser, I'm outta here" train is now in the station and ready for boarding. Gents...check yo'sef before you wreck yo'seff.

        [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        You know someone is lying when they keep bringing something up or keep stating it, flinch or make obvious gestures that they are lying. When a person is lying you can tell they are lying by the way they say something or the way they gesture their bodies, rapid eye blinking, breathing. The same with women, they rant, profess love. They do this because they don't understand love, they just copy it. They think if they rant about it and act like it, people will believe it. It's not so much that they want others to believe they love, more so they want themselves to believe they are capable of it. Summer time sadness, baby you the best!

        [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        WOMEN FEEL NO EMPATHY TOWARDS MEN. NONE. ZILCH. Men need to understand this and stop caring about women, women do not care about you. Fuck em, dump em, focus on your mission.

        [–]ECoast_Man 8 points9 points  (2 children)

        I remember this happened to a bunch of dudes in law school. Those are some pretty fucking important exams, and it's extremely stressful because it's marked on a curve. They told their non-law gals their stressors and bunch of them got dumped before the exams.

        It's crazy what the survival rate of men going into law school with pre-existing non-law girlfriends, at least where I went. Without exaggerating id say it's around 10%

        [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        Professional school doesn't bode well for pre-existing relationships. The girls realize that they will be making more money than their current bfs and run off to find a guy on her level (often not realizing that her better career status doesn't really mean shit to most guys, and then complaining that guys are "intimidated" by her). The guys realize they've got girls barking up their tree and generally do one of three things. If they're attractive they dump their ex and start plating women left and right. If they're unattractive/beta they recognize that those girls are only looking for a free ride and don't change course. If they're stupid they marry a gold digger and move to Florida/California to enter a particularly lucrative private practice situations or open the law firm that sues those guys.

        [–]ECoast_Man 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        That's definitely true to an extent but the beta males in law school weren't thinking that way, and that's the point I was getting at. The beta dudes thought, mistakenly, that showing vulnerability due to the stress levels was acceptable and ended up getting cucked by Chad and/or dumped.

        There were some dudes, me included, who realized that this was a ticket to golden pussy and capitalized. It's like that Seinfeld episode when Elaine gets dumped by a mes student once he passes his exams because that's the dream of becoming a doctor.

        However, I would say the vast majority of men in my year were dumped by their girlfriends due to them opening up about stress.

        [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (6 children)

        The whores that dump their guys when they are in combat zones are the worst.

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          [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

          Anyone who doesn't believe the shit we say here should take a survey of what happens to nearly all men who get deployed in relationships. When I was younger (college) I used to feel a bit of envy for the military guys I knew because women would fawn over the "men in uniform." After seeing the way they treat these men the moment times get tough, I realized that the actual sacrifice means nothing to women.

          [–]Jester2552 12 points13 points  (0 children)

          They enjoy the uniform because it makes THEM look good to their friends. Nothing else

          [–]Jester2552 5 points6 points  (1 child)

          Deployed twice now and each time at least 4 or 5 guys get cheated on. It's unbelievable

          [–]waldo888 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          4 or 5 guys find out they got cheated on*

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            [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (6 children)

            We all know that women are sociopaths though. Female nature is fuccccckeddd.

            [–]1AmlanceJockey 7 points8 points  (5 children)

            Their nature is astonishing. The reason they are loud during sex is to offer competing males an opportunity to interrupt the act. If the first male isnt strong enough to fight off interlopers, she avoids getting his weak dna. One last shit test. Another one, our penises are shaped to scoop out other men's semen during sex. Think about that. Women have sex with so many different men around the same time so often that it became beneficial to evolve a cum scoop on our dick.

            Its little tidbits like these that really helped me leave the anger phase. They are not being evil. Its just how they are.

            [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (4 children)

            Yup. They are literally made for gangbangs. 1000s of years ago, men's would go around pinning women down and dominating/raping them. We would each take our turn fucking them, and whoever had the biggest longest dick and the strongest sperm scooped out the one before thems sperm with their dickhead and fucked them. Whoever fucks her the deepest and gets his sperm to enter her eggs is the one who got to reproduce. Women are made for gangbangs, monogamy is a joke. Women are not made to be loyal. they aren't biologically capable of it and loyalty isn't a good strategy for them in the long term in case their partner is killed or is a failure.

            [–]TheReasoner94 3 points4 points  (3 children)

            Monogamy is a joke for men too. I hope you realise that.

            [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

            Oh of course. The difference is, there are men who have the self control to not go fuck strange pussy and stay faithful to their wives even though their balls long for fresh young tight pussy.

            Women never excercise loyalty and self control when it comes to their pussies craving for alpha cock. Men are polygamous, but can be monogamous. Women are hypergamous, but pretend to be monogamous.

            [–]waldo888 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            Monogamy was a choice designed to bring human beings into a chosen level of civility. We had the choice to behave in this manner we are now choosing to go back to primal instincts. Can civilization survive is the real question.

            [–]1Entropy-7 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            My LTR dropped a bomb on me just before I embarked on a job search. The hiring cycle just began a while ago and I need to be on top of my game to land a new job at a significant pay increase.

            It became apparent that I could not rely on her for encouragement and stability while I am going through this transition I took the initiative: we got together for a weekend, had a great time, fucked each other's brains out, and then I dumped her on Monday.

            It remains to be seen if she will get her head unfuct by September, but if there is anything between us at that point it will be on my terms and with her on a fucking short leash.

            My girl isn't (particularly) evil, but she is fuct up and manipulative; and that has to end or we end.

            [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 28 points29 points  (3 children)

            She has empathy - just not for him.

            Abandon the false hope of ever experiencing love like the love your mother gave you. You only received it because because you were her child. Women only express empathy for their own children.

            Now you are a man. The love accorded to you is respect. But respect is not owed, it is inspired.

            [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

            My ex stored half her belongings at my apartment while she "traveled" throughout Europe, and then had me help her move 8 hours away. At this point, I've seen plenty of fucked up shit from women, but the worst part about it all is the complete lack of empathy.

            Here's the thing though. It's not exclusive to women. We say AWALT in instances like this, but the truth is, this is just the power of abundance mentality. The OkCupid OP's girlfriend knew she wouldn't go a single day without emotional support and physical pleasure. As soon as he left it was out of sight, out of mind. Personally, I found TRP while dating the girl I described above. By the time it came to light that she was cheating I had made so many personal improvements that I knew that new pussy was literally right out the door. I didn't even have to think about kicking her out and making her get a hotel for the night, and I had my first official plate a few days later. That's not exactly analogous, since my ex deserved everything she got, but I didn't even flinch when she started crying, while years ago I would've been broken up about it, maybe even considered forgiving her. Since then I've left a decent number of women brokenhearted, but it's human nature to care about yourself. It's hard to feel bad about the girl crying in her apartment when you've got a new one naked in your bed. It's just human nature, and that's the reality of any desirable woman's life, so any desirable woman will forget about you very quickly.

            [–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey 18 points19 points  (7 children)

            Do you have any empathy for hoes?

            Ask yourself? The women we pump and dump do you give a shit if she has a ride home? Fuck no. I'm done with you, get out.

            You're disgusted by any woman who will let you fuck her in the ass after knowing her for 2 hours.

            This is how women feel about betas.

            [–]Boovs4life 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            She also got in a relationship a week later with a guy she was fucking while they were together according to OP

            [–]redpill_man 69 points70 points  (8 children)

            This is one of those things you really only need to experience once, you learn your lesson and never forget it. Even some of the most BP people I know IRL know that you don't open yourself up to women.

            [–]yaysmr 37 points38 points  (5 children)

            Took me three times. I was good at rationalizing.

            [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 55 points56 points  (4 children)

            Rationalizing...the male hamstering.

            [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

            Even some of the most BP people I know IRL know that you don't open yourself up to women.

            It's always this way. They feel "their" girl is different and they're immune to the nightmare stories till they become a victim.

            [–]squidracer 52 points53 points  (4 children)

            My dad has been married for almost 40 years now.. I used to wonder how he's made it so far.. Mom calls him grumpy and unemotional.

            There it is!!!!

            [–]AnAbsoluteSith 20 points21 points  (3 children)

            You just put my parent's marriage into perspective for me. For the 24 years I've known my dad, he always keeps everyone guessing.

            Nobody (including mom) knows the full extent of any of his plans, finances, issues etc. I should be taking notes.

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              [–]Casanova-Quinn 11 points12 points  (0 children)

              women related

              My grandfather would usually flirt/tease with women where ever he went. He had 40+ year marriage that was solid, but that didn't stop him. He didn't cheat, that was just his way of "keeping the knife sharp". Textbook alpha behavior. It all makes so much sense post TRP discovery.

              [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 95 points96 points  (31 children)

              Don't ever show weakness. Women can't un-see that shit.

              [–]yaysmr 47 points48 points  (2 children)

              They can, but it requires an even GREATER showing of strength, as well as some time between the initial display of weakness to blunt the memory.

              I should also add the women will sometimes interpret the weirdest things as 'weakness.'

              [–]squidracer 20 points21 points  (0 children)

              No shit.. Never showed weakness my whole life.. Dentist put me on some pretty rough antibiotics, apparently can cause depression, anxiety, and mood swings (who knew)..I has total control of a five year relationship, lost my mind and became whiny for a week. Never heard from her again

              [–]crisprcas9 34 points35 points  (9 children)

              Or go MGTOW. I don't give a fuck to what they think of me anymore.

              [–]reigorius 25 points26 points  (6 children)

              Weird to hear me say this, but after countless dates, girls, plates and failed LTR's, I've reached a point where it seems I don't expect anything substantial from them anymore.

              If I need support, I go to my friends. Male friends.

              [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

              They have nothing substantial to offer besides sex or babies. That is all.

              [–]GoldenCocaine 2 points3 points  (3 children)

              This probably sounds a little gay, but I've intentionally friend zoned a couple women who I'd consider myself close with. I don't have feelings for them in that way, and they probably don't for me either. I like to keep it like this, and a lot of the time I end up fucking their friends. But I can go talk to them about something if need be, it's nice since I don't give a fuck if they're attracted to me or not. We're friends.

              [–]Five_Decades 8 points9 points  (0 children)

              Word. Having to emotionally manage a selfish child and calling that a relationship is not my idea of a good time.

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                    [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 54 points55 points  (2 children)

                    First link? Maybe there will be some tits.

                    Clicks link. Nope, no tits.

                    Second link? Definitely gonna be some boobage.

                    Clicks link. No tits...

                    [–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (1 child)

                    Do not ever fucking tell a girl about depression lmao. Confident alpha men are not depressed.

                    [–]yaysmr 14 points15 points  (1 child)

                    1/3 chance you will hear from her again.

                    It'll be out of the blue, and she'll act like nothing happened or changed.

                    Up to you how you would deal with that.

                    [–]throwaway-aa2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    Jesus Christ. This happened the other day?!

                    Edit: in general, you don't want to say this to ANYONE, let alone a female. I wouldn't be caught dead saying anything like this to my mother / sister, any female friend, and definitely not a female interest. Furthermore I generally wouldn't send a text like this to any man for any reason. If I absolutely needed to I'd probably come to the internet (think about it... if you're just going to text, why not just come to an internet forum). But in general I've learned that a lot of these things I have to just deal with myself, and they make me a much, MUCH better man for dealing with it by myself.

                    [–][deleted] 86 points87 points  (25 children)

                    Thats not the womans role in a mans life.

                    You're going to often be angry and disappointed when you judge a fish by it's ability to ride a bicycle

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                      [–]cpnurrenberg 22 points23 points  (2 children)

                      that fish are great cyclists.

                      Love this metaphor. It is true though. And another interesting consideration is that most women (and men) will shame a guy for being upset that women aren't perfect. "Just treat them/us like people!" But then holding them to the same standards as men is 'sexist.'

                      It all starts to make sense when you realize most people talk out their ass, and it's your job to do your thing regardless of what other people say.

                      [–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 16 points17 points  (0 children)

                      Indeed, and this is why the red pill exists - to dispel all the harmful bullshit society teaches you.

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                        [–]_the_shape_ 26 points27 points  (3 children)

                        Interesting question for everyone here: if a man does not want to get married or have kids, how can a woman's role be defined in a man's life?

                        His plaything, one source of entertainment away from his work, his mission; a respite.

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                          [–]_the_shape_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                          I'm definitely with you there.

                          I'm also nearing my mid 30s, and these days it's basically low hanging fruit throwing themselves at me or nothing at all. Deciding against marriage and kids cleared things up very quickly for me too.

                          [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 22 points23 points  (0 children)

                          Women are best suited for a role of support.

                          But like any subordinate, they must be instructed on how to best serve you.

                          The biggest mistake that men commonly make is in assuming that women will behave like men - that they will feel driven by duty or a sense of fairness - and take initiative in figuring out how to best support a him. This will never happen. Women lack the demeanour to accept responsibility for their decisions, the empathy to the understand another person's needs, and the initiative to do anything without constant oversight.

                          Women can be useful to you, but only if you regard them as the servile tools that they are.

                          [–]reigorius 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                          Sex, female energy, convenience, the dishes, a warm meal. Cleaning.

                          [–]grewapair 17 points18 points  (0 children)

                          Most won't clean or cook. So we're down to sex.

                          Honestly, is it really worth having a partner you can't ever talk to? Jesus, get a picture of a woman and put it on your refrigerator. You'll get half the benefit with none of the costs.

                          [–]crisprcas9 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                          They serve just for sex maybe.

                          [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                          Sex. That is all they have to offer.

                          [–]reigorius 11 points12 points  (1 child)

                          The point is, if you view men and women as equal, as humans, then you are bound to think you can open yourself up to your girl like you do to your buddies. You know, because she is human, right? She'll listen and understand.

                          Which oddly enough she will. But it will partially (or completely) erode the image she built of you in her mind. An image that is far from reality. But she doesn't realise that, she only feels the emotions that is generated in her own mind using that image. Destroying or tainting that image, destroys the influx of bounding emotions.

                          I think. U/jiveraffe says it better.

                          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          Yeah, it's right in the sidebar

                          [–]RedEyesBlueShades 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                          A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.

                          -- U2

                          [–]Endorsed ContributorStories_of_Red 20 points21 points  (0 children)

                          Gloria Steinheim, actually. And let's see women fix the fucking sewers, before cholera kills them. Won't happen; they will be arguing over who does it, and pissed that no men are stepping up.

                          [–]JohnDoeDude 36 points37 points  (7 children)


                          Rely on yourself and nobody else.

                          Hard times? Tougher you become.

                          Positive side effect: no risk of shit being used against you.

                          [–]LetsGoAllTheWhey 24 points25 points  (4 children)

                          Agreed. I don't share my personal problems with anybody. Nobody really cares anyway. They might act like they do but they really don't.

                          [–]JohnDoeDude 18 points19 points  (1 child)

                          Nobody really cares anyway.


                          Unless you offer your shoulder when they need to rely on you.

                          Some men actually exploit this asking their friend's shoulder for faked problems so they can induce their friends to rely on them with real ones and used them in case it will be necessary. Jungle out there.

                          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          I do, with my older brother. He's the only person I know that genuinely understands me.

                          [–]reigorius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          I need to stump that lesson into my skull.

                          [–]_the_shape_ 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                          Hard times? Tougher you become.


                          Stop looking for a pillow to lay your head on. Become iron - top to bottom, inside-out - instead.

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                          [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

                          Women shouldn't be therapists either. So much for the whole "women are nurturing and feminine energy is comforting" spiel.

                          [–]imbweeeeding 101 points102 points  (21 children)

                          I used to think that I just had a knack for choosing unempathetic women. Now I realize that they are all like that. The best lesson that I have learned from TRP is that women can NOT love you the way you would like them to love you. That's a hard pill to swallow.

                          [–]yaysmr 43 points44 points  (2 children)

                          I used to think that I just had a knack for choosing unempathetic women.

                          HAH! Sums up my early dating life.

                          "Man, I just happen to keep picking women without souls. I need to keep looking because I know the princess for me is out there! My mom is an example so I know they exist!"

                          My mom divorcing my dad (after cheating on him and then, in the wake of the divorce, bouncing around on several different cocks) and the revelation that SHE wasn't a princess... well that managed to shake me out of the delusion. Almost.

                          But then you realize it makes the most obvious, logical sense. A woman who loved the way a man does would hitch their future to one mate, and stick with them through all trial and travails. Then if he crashes and burns, she gets dragged down with him, since there's no way she can salvage the situation. Not really ideal.

                          Better for them to have an out (or, ideally, several outs) waiting so she doesn't have to go down with the ship. Which of course means they must be able to sever the emotional connection at a moment's notice so she cannot truly 'love' someone. Then its just a matter of calibrating the sensitivity of their 'weakness detector.' Some women will stick with a man through rough times... but only if she truly believes he has the strength to recover. Every woman has a threshold after which she will bail out (UNLESS she has no other real options, meaning she is ugly and used up), some set this threshold high enough that they seem like they're loyal lovers.

                          Most women are a hair-trigger when it comes to that, because they've got so many other options, why ever stick around with a guy who shows even a moment's weakness? And of course this presents the irony:

                          Just when a man is most in need of emotional support and companionship, his most 'faithful,' loved companion flat-out abandons him.

                          TL;DR: get a dog instead. As long as you can feed him they'll stick around through thick and thin.

                          [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                          . A woman who loved the way a man does would hitch their future to one mate, and stick with them through all trial and travails. Then if he crashes and burns, she gets dragged down with him, since there's no way she can salvage the situation. Not really ideal.

                          Makes sense by this rationale for men to cut and run too. But we're hampered by loyalty and reason and fairness. We need to lose these because they are disadvantaging us in the SMP.

                          [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                          Agree completely. Women deserve no morals from men. Women have no morals, that's why they love amoral/immoral dark triad men. They identify more with them, and they see them as stronger, and they know that they'll drop them in a heartbeat which gives them tingles because it means they have options and preselection turns a woman on. Women want a man who other women want. Do not be nice to women, do not care for them, do not love them. Use em, abuse em, then lose em. They'll always come back for more. The pain makes them feel alive, they love the thrill. Women are gluttons for punishment, they're all sadomasochists deep down. No woman but your mother deserves any love or loyalty from you, and even then that's only if your mom has been good to you.

                          [–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (7 children)

                          If women were men, they'd be psychopaths. They have empathy only when it is convenient. It's like a switch they can flick on or off at will.

                          [–]saibot83 26 points27 points  (4 children)

                          It still amazes me how truly cold women can be. Like you never even existed and everything good, all the nice moments you had together never happened.

                          [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                          They shift + delete you from their lives only after they catch another branch, though.

                          [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                          All women are psychopaths. They don't love you, they never will.

                          [–]Five_Decades 13 points14 points  (3 children)

                          The best lesson that I have learned from TRP is that women can NOT love you the way you would like them to love you. That's a hard pill to swallow.

                          Women's sexual strategy requires them to find a guy who will provide for them and protect them as well as the offspring for years and years. It is just deductive logic when you understand that why women bail when a guy loses his job, gets sick or injured, becomes emotionally damaged, etc. A guy like that can't provide and protect the way he used to. Men are utilities to women, we are like cars that are carrying women and children on a cross country drive across hostile territory hoping to get them to their end goal (the end goal is all the children grow up, survive childhood and become sexually mature). When the car starts to spring an oil leak, when the tires go bald, etc. and if the car is beyond repair you abandon it and get another one.

                          I think because of evolution, because life was so tenuous in the past, women have evolved to cut their losses in a cold and unemotional way. In pre-historic times an alpha male today could be dead or injured tomorrow. He could die from another tribe killing him, he could be overthrown by another male in the tribe, he could be attacked by predators, he could have an accident, he could catch a disease, he could get an illness, etc. The women who stuck with the alpha males who started to falter were at a disadvantage over the ones who cut their losses and abandoned the guy. So evolution would (in my view) select for women willing to coldly cut a man out of their life when he no longer serves their sexual strategy. Hence the fact that women can turn cold and distant in ways that men cannot really comprehend, because we do not do the same thing. At the same time, I think women have a hard time understanding how a guy can be caring and compassionate until he fucks you, then he is as cold as a stranger. We have both evolved to turn selfish when our strategies are not being met, we just do it differently.

                          [–]rhuffq 24 points25 points  (5 children)

                          I don't have a bad horror story like a lot of people here. But here's my experience.

                          I was definitely swimming in blue pill back years ago. Back in my mid-twenties there was this girl who was at least an 8 that I asked out several times. Around the time I turned 30 and her 26 she decided to go out with me. Fast forward 8 months and we're engaged after being pressured by her. She wanted to be a stay at home mom, sell my house and move to a pricier neighborhood, even buy a boat, have weekly date nights, etc. My job was solid and well paying, but I was having money problems just keeping her "needs" met. I started pulling back and telling her no on things and one day out of the blue after some comments I made about finances she asks me if I will have trouble sharing my money once we're married. I decide to be honest and open up about my feelings and said "yeah it will be difficult for me". I was thinking that it would open up some good dialog between us and a chance to work some things out regarding money. Nope. Next day she tells me that if I don't change then she's leaving, at which point I had enough as it was and said "Ok, see ya". Engagement over. I looked at my budget with her gone and felt like I had actually won a lottery that paid an annuity. Best freaking day of my life.

                          I realized two things about our relationship.

                          1.) She didn't care about me for me. She cared about me so long as I was a functioning cog in the machine of her dream lifestyle. Cogs aren't supposed to have feelings or fears. They just do their job.

                          2.) By marrying me she felt like she was doing me a favor and in return I should be grateful to be a card carry beta ATM for her.

                          [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (4 children)

                          Women like that are just toxic. Go to the south pacific and find a nice girl who actually likes men. Fijian women are great.

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                            [–]One_friendship_plz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                            That's fine, she's getting old & boring anyway by that point. Time to replace her. She's the one who's fucked. Always realize they're the ones that end up losing by dicking around at older ages.

                            [–]iwakebord2 36 points37 points  (4 children)

                            Mine was tough. Together 6 years. Had a kid and got her pregnant like a dipshit kid at 22 that trusted her with birth control. At 5 years in I asked her to marry me. It was at this moment that she got what she wanted and I became broke paying for the 10k ring she wanted and posting half the bill for the wedding that she started boning some loser friend from high school that just got out of prison for boning a 17 year old when he was 23 and the parents pressed charges. I was the parent the one working and she was a dumb messy slob bitch that worked a bartending job as an excuse to party all night. She brought the guy she was boning to the wedding best and worst day of my life. I found out she was cheating on me when she pocket dialed me by mistake. Told her to never come home. Biggest mistake was letting her 3 weeks later. She played me for months while she built up a big enough nest egg 6 months later got divorce papers. Lucky I didn't get alimony but her being the cunt that she was she was allowed to move away with my daughter after I spent 20k in court and she was the fuckup. God bless liberal Washington state. Because I was the one who made all the money and she was a flight risk if she didn't get what she wanted they gave her child support and made me pay for 80% of everything, medical care and plane tickets for my daughter. Raped. Happier now than I have ever been since I never have to see her when I get my daughter and now I am free to live my RP life 4 years later life is great

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                              [–]reigorius 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                              So your daughter lives with you?

                              [–]gonorealover 47 points48 points  (19 children)

                              There are men in this sub who will read stuff like this and they STILL consider getting married to these creatures .

                              [–]LuvBeer 55 points56 points  (14 children)

                              But my girl is different....

                              [–]crisprcas9 15 points16 points  (8 children)

                              No, but she really is...

                              (just kidding)

                              [–]vagbutters 16 points17 points  (7 children)

                              But she really is different! She sucks a cock better than any other girl can!

                              [–]1PrinceofSpades 14 points15 points  (6 children)

                              Just because she was your best blowjob thus far doesn't mean there isn't a better blowjob on the horizon. Find yourself a stripper with a little lip bling like I did, and I guarantee you'll finally desensitize yourself from any average girl's oral game. It's so cute watching them try so hard to give me pleasure, completely oblivious to that time that stripper I took out for food truck and fuck had me screaming out to deities I don't even believe in like a girl getting fucked.

                              Best hour of my life... Doesn't mean she was worth marrying.

                              [–]vagbutters 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                              I was just being sarcastic haha

                              [–]1PrinceofSpades 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                              I know, but it felt like an appropriate place to interject with some truth for those who've ever had that thought seriously before.

                              [–]mk262 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                              If I had a $1. Also "you don't know her like I do".

                              [–]2Overkillengine 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                              A great reply back to that one is: "And you don't know her like other men have either."

                              [–]2Overkillengine 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                              I'm too special for it to happen to me!

                              [–]Granarc 13 points14 points  (2 children)

                              Sisters are the same way. I broke up with my oneitis So I was feeling like shit. We had a family get together and my sister avoided me like a plague. After I had gained my spirit back. they told me that they had never seen me like that and they didn't like it. They told me that I am normally the rock they can depend on. My response was "Where the fuck were you when I needed you then?" Since then I see what they really are. AWALT. A week later, I discovered the redpill.

                              [–]MarauderFH 9 points10 points  (1 child)

                              My sister actually tried to help my ex garner more money from me in the divorce.

                              [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                              I don't understand rp men who want marriage or ltrs. Pump, dump & plate forever.

                              [–]jborbz 16 points17 points  (4 children)

                              Goddamn it. I slipped this morning and let the gf see behind the curtain for one second. I knew immediately that I'd fucked up. It's hard to remember in those small moments that she doesn't really care.

                              [–]AnAbsoluteSith 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                              Mind explaining your fuck up?

                              [–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 15 points16 points  (3 children)

                              Lesson learned: if you want to REMOVE the woman, act vulnerable

                              Got it.

                              [–]grewapair 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                              Or grow a pair and tell them to GTFO.

                              [–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                              But then she'll cry assault!

                              [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 13 points14 points  (2 children)

                              Every man has a story like OP's that jolted him and exposed him to reality. What's your story?

                              Extremely difficult and distressing family circumstances. Live-in girlfriend's response: increased bitching, nagging and attempts to control me, doing everything to make my life harder rather than easier.

                              [–]_eskimo_brothers_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                              Yep. Similar story. Fail in any way and they can't "unsee" it as said many times by many people. Looking back I can't believe how much gas-lighting a previous live-in-gf was doing to me, pushing and pushing me to be the "bad guy" and end it - yet I didn't. Should have reflected more on the red flags before it ended and ended it on my terms long before the actual end.

                              Now I'm even more mysterious than before, most of time time I don't even realize it or do it intentionally. I also tell girls when they want a real emotional reaction that I've got a cold, lifeless, black heart inside with a smirk.

                              "Always leave them wanting more."

                              [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                              In my last LTR, I was beta/clingy. I cringe now thinking of it, but I was in love and well wanted to cling to her. I thought I'd found the one. She was also clingy right back and wanted to be with me all the time.

                              My brother and I got into a bad argument. He immediately called me and apologized. I hung up and was overcome with the love my brother and I have and shed a tear and leaned against her and talked a bit about my feelings. She immediately shut down. Five minutes later she gave me a talk about how she is really stressed and she would be different for a while. It was like an emotional iron curtain dropped. I broke up with her a few weeks later because of how she began treating me.

                              [–]only_your_enemy 12 points13 points  (4 children)

                              Just curious, what would you guys say to someone like me who has an anecdote which contradicts this reasoning? I've always had trouble expressing feelings and when my father passed in January my girlfriend forced me to open up to her. I felt very vulnerable and cried to her and our relationship became much stronger following.

                              [–]oralexam 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                              Some women are like that, but you won't know until you try, and most of the time you'll fuck it up.

                              [–]Hoodwink 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                              Look, if it's part of the script. Most women will follow it.

                              The script allows for crying on: parents, close siblings, and your dog from childhood.

                              Everything else is highly suspect.

                              Women are the ones that enforce gender roles - men don't really enforce 'roles' (you can't make a whore into a housewife). One of the reasons for 'unfair' marriage laws was probably this particular social observation - the ones in control were and always have been women because they choose the men. You protect men (and families) with resources by making kids and resources stay with the man. That's why religions chose to control women because you inevitably control men through women's choices.

                              [–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                              I read this Pathetic Geek Stories comic a long time ago. I remember wondering how the woman could be so cold to break up with him and just silently eat while he sat there depressed. Now, post TRP, I know better.

                              [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                              Went off to a different college than my high school "sweetheart", we agreed to break it off right before that but were still very much crazy about each other.

                              I go off to a college without any of my friends (most of them didn't get in anywhere), I'm young, in a new environment, and utterly alone. Cue depression onset.

                              Meanwhile guess what my snowflake is doing? Day 1. Drunk as fuck at some random guys place with her slutty friend, spends the entire night showing how much she misses me by making out with this guy who, no shit, was a VIRGIN. Days 2 through forever got progressively worse.

                              Somewhere along the line I'd allowed my depression and lonliness to make me more beta than some pissant flabby, pastey sophomore virgin. As you all can imagine, I did what every beta does: clung to the slut who was responsible for my increasing depression for months, when she needed to get laid I'd bang her, then she'd go right back to the vcard VIP and forget me.

                              Shit gets worse, yada Yada yada, long story about eating myself alive.

                              Boom, wake up one day and I decide I hate her, and the only way she's going to learn a lesson is if I become a successful person. I hit the gym, I join the wrestling and MMA teams at my university, I get Accutane and knock my acne out, I jump into the pussy pool face first, have some success, I'm on dean's list every semester.

                              Ring ring

                              Guess who? It's that needy bitch who nearly caused me to ruin my life! (Note the mentality switch at this point. Beforehand I was the victim of her decision making. It was her fault. Now that I've stumbled on to this lifestyle (TRP) I've realized that this female was only doing the AWALT dance (the waltz). I was to blame the entire time for allowing her behavior to take place and remain present).

                              Anyway, don't answer the call. A new milestone has been realized, now I don't hate her. I've built a life that is so satisfying that she is of no consequence whatsoever to me.


                              Weeks go by. Her best friend goes to my university so some of her (the ex's) hot friends are occassionally visiting to party. I've got no problem with her best friend so when I receive a text about the two of them wanting to come visit and drink I'm slightly surprised but think nothing of it.

                              Yada yada yada, get drunk, bang one in my aparment.

                              Weeks go by, another bff visit and random text invitation.

                              Yada yada yada, get drunk, bang the other one in my apartment.

                              Women don't keep secrets well. At the first sign of turmoil they will unload whatever hurtful information they have on one another. Fight between ex and bff, bff unleashes the hurt. Ex distraught. Phone calls ignore string of texts no response Thought she had a boyfriend? Hm.

                              [–]mehdreamer 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                              I have a similar story to his. I had to go through a tough period at my job..i had to do extra hours at home..every weekend to be on the deadline. My LTR couldn't accept that...she wanted all the attention to her. what she did, is to create an OKC account...she has found an Italian guy...he fucked her in his car..I found out later by hacking her account(I am IT)

                              At the beginning of our relationship...she told me "I get bored very easilly" That was a red flag...a HUGE one. If a girl tell she get bored easily...turn around...she can never be an LTR.

                              That what brought me to TRP. Never again

                              [–]juliman17 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                              never in my fucking life i will understand how women can be so cold hearted, forget about all the good times and things you did for them in literally seconds.

                              it´s scary to see how they can cheat and dump their boyfriends and give no fucks about it. where the fuck are your feelings, aren´t you a human being

                              and ofc, never open up to a women, it will not only dry them up like the sahara desert but it won´t help you at all since they will never understand the struggles men go through

                              [–]IndyBrodaSolo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                              "I spent my whole life trying not to be careless. Women and children can be careless. But not men."

                              • Don Corleone

                              [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                              Beta males are for resources so don't hint any issue with that.

                              Women are not good at handling bad stuff so shield them from it.

                              Men are to provide a rock for her emotional roller-coaster so be sure not to display too much emotion. Stoicism is good, for you, and for your women.

                              [–][deleted]  (4 children)


                              [–]zxDanKwan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                              Don't even rely on your own mother. After all, AWALT. I've heard plenty of stories of mothers trying to betafy their own sons.

                              Better to do your best to build a meaningful relationship with your father, or some other male role model, and turn to them for the emotional support you seek.

                              Never trust a woman with your heart. It's what they eat.

                              [–]OilyB 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                              My ex of 4 years stood on my shoulders to: enhance her relationship with her 2 daughters, leave her dad as a business partner, improve the relationship with her daughters' dad, to copy paste a better family life and to find a new career. In retrospect she was a partygirl trying to get her life to look more mature. Tried 3 new business ideas and 4 jobs but failed hopelessly, got herself into enormous debt and tried to get/borrow money and more and more financial support from me and my family. She made a complete and utter mess of herself (physically: became fat; and emotionally: was firing appr 8 new plans every week, allowing her moodswings to ruin everything) in 4 years, secretly hoping she'd be a SAHM but outwardly acting like she was trying to build a new career.

                              When she finally realized I wouldn't finance her endless unstable moneypit misery, she blamed me for a couple of made up trivialities and skipped town. To go back to living with her parents and have 3 jobs in two years.

                              Tl;dr - Dodged a yuge bullet from a true leech.

                              [–]Five_Decades 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                              The sad part is that if you took an average male teenager and took an hour explaining red pill philosophy to him, guys would not be caught off guard by this stuff nearly as much. You can't absorb all of TRP in an hour, but you can get the jist and the basics down.

                              briffault's law, hypergamy, branch swinging, female sexual strategy, AF/BB.

                              This is sad how clueless men are. I was the same way before I came here. Looking at my past relationships, I can see when women were engaging in TRP tactics and I was caught off guard.

                              Disagree with the OP. Nothing wrong with being a beta. There is more to life than getting laid and spreading your genes. Lots of guys just want to be happy and safe, and they just want a woman who will support them in thick and thin rather than bail once a guy gives signs he can't provide. Do those women exist? Yeah, but they are the minority.

                              If you insist on getting into a LTR with a woman, make sure she is a decent human being first and foremost. Is she close to her family? Does she have compassion for animals? Does she have healthy self esteem? How does she treat people who are beneath her or who have wronged her? If she is a decent human being, she is probably more willing to suppress her destructive urges.

                              [–]MeditateErrDay 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                              This is the nature of the masculine and feminine polarity. I don't look at this as anything to be angry about towards women.

                              Men need to focus on their mission and get shit done. Do this and the attraction will be strong.

                              If you don't know what your mission is, unplug for a couple of days. Journal, go for walks, meditate, pray, and go deep within yourself.

                              You should never go to a woman before this as she can't do this for you.

                              [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                              Leant this from my ex-wife. Mum dies while delivering (part of a team) 1.5 Billion project.

                              Emotional support? None. Only wanted cash for the xBox live account.

                              Revenge? Of course. Didn't get divorced raped and fuck a hotter chick in our bed while she is at church.

                              If i want to talk about my feelings, i buy beer and visit a mate.

                              [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                              While I agree with you that women need a rock and you should never act like some insecure emotional beta in front of your woman (and kids).. I'm willing to bet there was more to each guys situation than him simply acting vulnerable for a moment..

                              What are these guys like in the sack? Were they pleasing their wives?

                              What were their personal attitudes like? Were they grouchy all the time? Beta pushovers who just bend to the will of their wives? Boring chumps? Dad bods? Entitled attitude but too beta to deserve it (women like to serve alphas, it gives them pleasure.. But they resent serving beta male losers in a boyfriend/girlfriend husband/wife dynamic.

                              As for the example of the kid who took his exam, just sounds like the typical hot college girlfriend thing to do.. Break up at the end of the semester so you can go fuck a bunch of dudes at a beach house with your sorority sisters over the summer guilt free.. Although she may have been a huge cunt too who knows? I had a similar break up with my last girlfriend. Before we dated I wasn't "alpha" in any sense other than I was a cool dude in my social circle and fucking multiple women. She KNEW i was fucking multiple women and it seemed like it got her excited. We started dating because I was cheating on my girlfriend at the time with her. Turns out, the chick was just a fucking succubus cunt with no soul.. It felt like she sucked away my mojo and I lost my confidence.. She also treated her parents and siblings like shit so looking back now without being high on "love", it's no mystery that she'd treat me like shit as well. Bitch broke up with me ON A FUCKING VACATION.

                              Unless these dudes was REALLY getting beta like having an emotional breakdown in front of her causing her to think "wow this guy needs to grow a pair of fucking balls" also using her as your emotional tampon then there's gotta be more going on.. Simply saying to your girlfriend "Ahh babe I have this big test coming up tuesday the material's pretty difficult I hope I pass".. Any normal girlfriend would reply with something like "You got this babe I know you can do it".. That's usually how that stuff's gone for me before.

                              There has to be more going on here. Married women past the wall don't just up and leave because their husband gets a little emotional or nervous about their job.. Unless those women truly are fucked in the head / mentally ill (BPD or something).

                              Although.. Alphas don't "worry" about this shit to begin with. They analyze and execute.

                              Exams are designed to be passable for the average student in your class.

                              Jobs are designed for the average person with given qualifications to perform.

                              "worrying" simply means you're too lazy, too stupid, or too cowardly to analyze your situation and execute a solution (given there's no sort of "handicap" involved with your ability to perform).

                              [–]lozboss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                              This is true. Women give zero fucks about your hard times but expect you to be there to be their rock.

                              It's quite a depressing state of affairs.

                              So much for "behind every great man is a great woman"

                              [–]1TheGrayRapp_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                              The things mentioned in this post are true, no doubt. But there is a common theme throughout them, which is the girl seems like an emotional wreck from the start.

                              Wanting him to open up for years, using him as a meal ticket, come get your shit, help me with mine, etc. The one issue I have with the guys that get stuck in this is that they already picked an idiot and when you pick an idiot they will fuck you over. The fact that a guy would say let me help you with your shit then lets go talk about it is unreal. Own the fact that you picked a loser and say "ok", let her get her shit and have a beer.

                              I am one of the most negative people alive. I barely give a fuck about anything. But some of this stuff I read is too one sided. There never seems to be the angle of well maybe you picked a fucking money hungry insecure idiot and now you are paying for it; combined with the fact that every one of these post has beta written all over it. Thats the core issue, because women are saying the same shit about us now. We are all fucked up and people have to pick good ones but also accept that shit can go south.

                              If my women told me right now she was done or to fuck off, I would be gone before the end of the sentence. I am just realist, but I dont think its guaranteed that these stories will happen if you ever get involved with a female. Its more about the man being a real man to the point that he would never be in these positions. If he was, he wouldnt care. Eliminating the whole "oh my gosh they are just so lacking in empathy." Who gives a fuck, an alpha doesnt have empathy to being with. Therefore, have your shit straight and stop caring. Use the relationship for what its worth and if it goes south, you will find another one anyway, like we all do throughout life.

                              I love the idea of men squaring their shit away, but if your foundation is solid then none of this should matter IMO.

                              [–]RedSugarPill 9 points10 points  (11 children)

                              OK, RP fellas, it's revenge porn story time. If you have a weak constitution or are a SJW, stop reading right now and go fuck yourself.

                              I dated an HB6 Indian girl for about a year. She was 24 and in the middle of her CC riding days as a grad student. I was thirsty and had just gotten back from the ride of my life abroad, with nobody to fuck back home.. So I tried really hard with this one, and eventually plated her. We dated for almost 1 year, but I knew she was a trashy whore, so I kept her at emotional arm's length (i.e., I knew she wasn't marriage material—and this is 10 years before I found TRP). Fast forward 1 year into the relationship, where I had been her rock, entertainment, drinking buddy, and go-to fuck-star (her friends even called me Mr. Big): I had a very difficult week with my graduate advisor. I was distraught, because my advisor threatened to kick me out of the program—get this—for not doing another student's homework! So I mentioned it to her and asked her for advice. Within 48 hours of my first real personal issue, she said she needed a break from all the drama. My response: like hell you need a break. I've been a great boyfriend since we got together a year ago, and I have a tough week and now you need a break? I have a better idea; I'm breaking up with you.

                              I was distraught, but I knew where our relationship was going, but my evil revenge porn plan was just beginning to hatch. I ignored her for weeks, and got her to thinking maybe she made a mistake. Got her back in the sack and fucked her silly for a few months, but inside I was still pissed off. I still wanted revenge. One day she came over for a quick lay, and I had just taken a shit. You evil bastards know where this is going: I laid her out on her back, with her head slightly off the edge of the bed, and rammed it in her face until she was making choking sounds. It was so goddam funny I had to pump harder so she couldn't notice my laughter. After a few seconds of hearing her gulping agony, I felt satisfied, and all the anger dissipated. Turned her ass around and banged her hard until I came up in that dirty fucking whore. As soon as I came, I rolled off her and started laughing uncontrollably. I didn't know what to say, so I just said “I'm sorry honey, you were so hot, I couldn't control myself” She smiled and said she enjoyed it. WTF?! Lesson learned. Hate fucking and complete degradation is actually enjoyed thoroughly by these dirty fucking whores.

                              Update on her life: I was not invited to her traditional Indian wedding, but the guy is a pudgy FOB and she is ABCD. Have a nice life together, beta bucks—I'm sure you'll enjoy that pussy—I sure did ;)

                              [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (6 children)

                              Women love hatefucking, degradation and being completely ignored. It makes them feel inferior to you, gives them tingles. A woman is happiest in the state between pain and pleasure. Women love being emotionally hurt by alphas and DT men.

                              [–]RedSugarPill 5 points6 points  (5 children)

                              No doubt. This is the kind of knowledge that took me decades to learn believe. The truth is right there in front of our eyes--we just have to be willing to see it. Took me a long time, and a lot of heartbreak.

                              [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

                              Yup. They're all gluttons for punishment. They love pain. They love being hurt by alphas, and they love hurting betas. They're sadomasochists.

                              Pain and regret are a womans best friends.

                              Women are not worthy of love and they know It. Which is why they hate men who love them. They know their trash, and want you to treat them like so. Redpill should not fall in love with women. Women are happiest being used, abused, and discarded by sociopathic dominant nonemotional alpha men.

                              [–]RedSugarPill 5 points6 points  (3 children)

                              they love hurting betas

                              Heh, you could say that again. I have expressed every RP archetype at one point of my life or another, from missionary beta bob to repeatedly nailing a married medical professional in her office. But before TRP none of this shit made any sense. How come this chick is blowing me in a carwash one day, and then making out with another guy at a bar in front of me another day? Those were absolutely terrifying days in my early adulthood. Men must be taught the behavior of women--for their own mental health and sanity. It amazes me that cultures keep trying, and succeeding, in covering this knowledge up.

                              [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                              They keep it a secret because men would have no incentive to start families or support women if they knew the truth. Men wouldn't be motivated by their women to succeed, they'd just get by with as little as they can. Single men can live on a small amount of income. Plus men are kept in the dark so the female imperative can succeed through society. Evolution leans more towards the side of the feminine imperative from what I know, I think I read that on rollos blog.

                              If all men were redpill aware, the worlds elite couldn't control us either. The elite keep the blue pill masses in the dark.

                              [–]RedSugarPill 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                              On one hand, I feel like the elites have overplayed their hand. It's so bad that we cannot even reliably sustain ourselves. On the other hand, I think it's being done this way, on purpose, in order to reduce the population. White Americans have become effectively infertile. To be honest, if I could have gotten the expected income, given my advanced degree and training, I would have gladly become some woman's slave, locked behind the bars of a white picket fence. But I got lucky, as I started to see women's nature, and how the government is treating men, just in time.

                              [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                              Yup. The white population is on a steep decline, as are the birthrates. Everybody will be mixed over the next 50 years anyways though. Our grandchildren will be little lightskinned kids lmaoo. And nah, fuck that. Marriage = Trash. I've never wwanted to get married. They same pussy forever sounds like no fun.

                              [–]staggerman 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                              "Every man has a story like OP's that jolted him and exposed him to reality. What's your story?"

                              In Iraq on my first deployment. I had a girlfriend I met right after High School. We were together for about 1 and a half years. I was seriously considering asking her to marry me before I left. Thank god I had good NCO's that told me to at least wait until I get back. Anyway, convoy got hit and one of my good friends was killed. I called her a couple days later wanting emotional support. Not two weeks later breaks up with me saying she couldn't handle it anymore. Found out she was fucking one of my high school friends. Thank god we broke up and I never married her. I got some payback when I got home and fucked her a few times while she was dating my former friend.

                              [–]beachbbqlover 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                              Without looking: she gangbanged a pack of strangers just as he was coming home from work to find the locks changed on the house he just bought her.

                              [–]RyanasaurusRex 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                              I made the mistake of doing this once myself. Came to my girlfriend for help because I was feeling suicidal and she wanted nothing to do with me after that

                              [–]ApexScorpion 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                              Had a girl rage out on me because I didn't open up and talk about my problems enough. Go figure. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I made it a priority not to need her assistance or emotional support. I tried it before but I felt intellectually deprived to an extent, so I became protective. All I was doing was telling her how weak I felt and she's just collecting data to shit on me in the future. She couldn't understand it from my point of view so I kept certain things to myself. I detest depending on a woman for anything major really.

                              [–]Veritas_potissimum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                              It's likely she branch swung long ago and was just looking for a reason to finalize the deal. They've been together for years so it's unlikely this guy had a watertight frame all along and only slipped recently. This bitch had a plan and was going to pursue it and justify it with any reason she could - "He breathes too loud "

                              [–]Il128 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                              Long ago... I was in college and working full time and trying to make the college football team as a tight end. I had a 10/10 smoking hot, tall, hard bodied fiancé.

                              My mother got cancer. I was devastated. I really needed my fiancées support. She started fucking a mutual friend.

                              The end.

                              [–]1Entropy-7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                              I saw that in my divorce practice: wife cheats, gets caught, serves guy with papers. A common excuse by women and white knights as to why women file for divorce more often is simply "well, what did the guy do to make her file?" The answer is nothing! He caught her cheating!

                              "What did he do to make her cheat on him?"

                              Fuck me: does rat poison work on hamsters?

                              [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                              It still amazes me that some redpillers think women love. I don't believe women love at all, not even alphas. Women don't love, they just lust for tingles and alpha genes. Don't be fooled. Women are not capable of love.

                              [–]hotshot0123 3 points4 points  (4 children)

                              You quoted my post from okc here. I personally don't belive in your ideology but one thing I learned from my failed marriage is that, a man gotta be strong & should never give second chances.

                              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                              Read the sidebar. It will change your life.

                              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                              Appreciate the post, some brutal examples. Serious question - you say you can rely only on your mother and male friends. How do you rationalise a mother (who was once one of these women) now having the empathy to support, if that empathy wasn't there all along?

                              [–]grewapair 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              She only has empathy for her own children.

                              [–]ABC_Florida 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              TL;DR: Women are awful at giving any kind of support when your luck is down. Rely on men, not women. The only use girls have is sex and passive feminine energy.

                              One exception: your blood. Apart from that I can second that from my own experiences. I recall my father criticizing my mom only once. When they announced to us, that they gonna divorce. And even then I was the one telling him, I can not stand the tone she is talking to me some times. I can recall many occasions my mom was telling us kids tales how my dad forgot something, fucked something up, or how he is simply doing something wrong, in her opinion of course. Don't get me wrong! I love both of them. But it is almost totally true what OP states. A man getting empathy from a woman for feeling like shit is pretty rare. Apart from your blood of course. They either look at you like some injured puppy for some petty scar, or lose any desire for you.

                              [–]DoerOfStuffAndThings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              Call your mom if you need to talk to someone who cares how you feel. Always remember that:

                              • Men love women

                              • Women love their children

                              • Children love hamsters (or puppies, depends who you quote)

                              • Hamsters don't love anyone

                              [–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                              I feel like i get the point here but i would just LOVE for someone to verify for me here. My last relationship at the end i basically heard the whole "you weren't emotionally available" thing. Is that PURELY a shit test, like Sun Tzu's make you strength appear weak so when your enemy attacks it you destroy them? It seems that's the only way to interpret it, despite the insensate nagging of women to "open up".

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