Blue Pill ExampleI lost my marriage, my career, and my kid (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 2legion327

So this was originally posted to TIFU. It was left up for approximately 14 hours, made the reddit front page then was deleted by TIFU mods. They provided no reason.

Tried to re-post at relationships and they deleted it instantly. No reason provided.

Apparently, the fact that my story resonated with so many people is threatening in some way. Threatening to whom, I'll leave you to decide.

So I'm reposting here. Enjoy.

I was in the US Army. I was stationed in South Korea and I met a girl while I was back home on leave visiting friends. She was really cute and I liked her a lot. We clicked instantly. She opened up to me about how her dad had raped her when she was 9. My heart went out to her and we kept in touch for several months even after I left to go back to Korea. A relationship blossomed and we eventually ended up married. A year later, she was pregnant. I was overjoyed. We both were. 9 months later, my son was born. Within a couple months of his birth, the new-baby joyous haze had faded and postpartum depression set in with my wife. I did what I could to help lift her spirits but I was also working 12-hour days and sometimes weekends because, ya know... it's the Army. When my son was 6 months old, I got the news that my unit was going to deploy to Iraq. We were sent to the Fort Irwin National Training Center in the Mojave desert to train. While I was there, I got a call from a friend back at my unit. He had seen my wife in a Military Police vehicle with my son.

I was shattered. I was thousands of miles away and powerless to do anything and didn't know what was wrong or what might have happened to her and my son. I knew she had been in a fragile state. What could be wrong?!? I was absolutely frantic for days. She wasn't answering her phone. Worse yet, we were doing training exercises and I had lost my phone charger at some point and my phone had died. I called again from a friend's phone and left a voicemail with his phone number in the hopes that she would call back. Finally, on day 3 after hearing this news, she calls his phone. He runs over to me and brings me his cell. The wind is blasting sand into my face and it's 110 degrees outside. I ask her what's wrong and what the hell happened?!?

She tells me she wants a divorce... I'm dumbfounded. This is out of nowhere and I'm in total shock. Turns out she wasn't in a Military Police vehicle because there she was in trouble... She was fucking the MP. Of course, she couldn't very well leave my months-old son by himself so she was carting him along with her while she was doing it. It had been going on for months, even before I left. There's pictures of her and him and baby son with a tent in the background. They'd gone camping. Asked her where my son had slept and she matter-of-factly stated that he'd been in the tent with them. Nevertheless, I try to work things out for the sake of our son, but she's adamant and wants the divorce. Divorces are never quick so some tense months went by... but finally the divorce is granted. The next morning, I wake up and she is gone. She left our son with me, got on a plane, she's gone.

So there I was, a 22-year-old soldier who is suddenly a single dad of a now 10-month-old baby and I'm supposed to get on a plane to Iraq the following week. I didn't know what to do. So I grab my son, put him in his car seat, and drive to my unit's headquarters and sit down with my Commander and explain the situation. My son's mother has left and gone back to her parent's house, my own parents both work full-time along with parenting my mentally handicapped sister and can't possibly take on my son as well. So my CO says he'll have to consult with the Battalion Commander about what to do.

I nervously wait a few days. Then, 6 days before we're supposed to deploy to Iraq, my CO comes back and tells me that they're going to put me out of the Army on an honorable discharge. In a way, I was relieved because my son was my first priority. But I also have never felt that guilty in my entire life. I had trained with these guys in my unit for years preparing to go to war. Now I'm not going at all. I was a sergeant so I had soldiers who were underneath me that got transferred to another squad. I felt like they were being abandoned by me and there was nothing I could do to stop it.

Then, on the day my unit is leaving, my company is getting on the buses to drive to the airport. My CO hands me a clipboard and asks me to check off each soldier as they get on the bus. So I did. Each one shook my hand and wished me luck as he got on the bus. I watched every face go by and shook every hand. My CO was the last on the bus. He took the clipboard from me, I saluted him, and he shook my hand and got on the bus and they drove away. Suddenly, I was standing in front of the headquarters building with my son napping in his carrier on the pavement beside me and I was totally and utterly alone. I sat down on the pavement and (I have to sit my manhood aside here for a moment) cried harder than I have ever cried in my entire life. I had never felt so painfully guilty and so alone.

Three months later, I was honorably discharged from the Army and on my way home. I got myself a place, got set up with a community college and started pursuing a degree while doing the single dad thing. I was recovering and putting my life together because I had to. For him.

Three months into this new life I'd set up for myself, a sheriff's deputy shows up at my front door. He hands me a manila envelope with court papers in it. I'd been served. My ex-wife was suing for custody.

Now, let's pause for a moment. So far, all of this is a rather unfortunate set of circumstances and you're probably wondering "So where's the FU? This doesn't sound like it's your fault." Up until now, you'd be right. So here it is. Here's where I fucked up: For the first month, I didn't even get a lawyer. I just called her and asked her what in the world she was doing. Couldn't we work this out? Fuck-up number 1. Always get a lawyer if you get a damn court summons. No exceptions. Your lawyer needs time to prepare your case. The longer you take to get one, the more ill-prepared he/she is. So finally I figure this out because things just aren't getting worked out. So I get a lawyer. The lawyer of course tells me to cease communication with her and that all communication will now go through him to her lawyer. But, in my hubris, I did not listen. I called her due to my emotional state being so out of whack. The conversation was somewhat peaceable at first but turned sour. At some point, she asked me if I had firearms in my house. I responded that of course I did to protect our son she abandoned and blah blah blah... This is fuck-up #2. She recorded it. This recording was the central piece of evidence she used in court against me. Of course the gun was locked up but she claimed he was in danger. Never ever disobey your lawyer and never base legal decisions on emotion.

Another six months passed and then a judge awarded sole physical custody of my son to my ex-wife despite the fact that I had been taking care of him alone this entire time since she left us both. This sounds crazy, I know. However, we're talking about a southern bible belt judge who was golf buddies with my ex-father-in-law. So yeah... that was that. While the system is a bit of joke when it comes to father's rights, I ultimately lost my son because I fucked up.

TL;DR - Guy in army gets cheated on by his wife and loses his wife, then his career, and then, due to his own hubris, his son.


Part 2 can be found here: redd(dot)it/4jz1ue

[–]DailyManliness 630 points631 points  (87 children)

When people ask why we need TRP. This is why. This should be put in the side bar of "Wondering why we need TRP, click here"..The censorship of male stories and males needing to share what happened to them is disgusting. I'm curious if this is exactly what you posted there? I see no shaming in this or anything that anyone could even pretend is shaming a particular gender or group of people. It's a story, disliking the content does not mean the content is offensive and it's almost dangerous to me if this exact story was removed by other mods

[–]2legion327[S] 462 points463 points  (69 children)

I copy/pasted.

The TIFU post that ended up on the front page had 2700+ upvotes, 3 gold, and 491 comments at last count. I'm still getting comments on the original post and getting PM-bombed by a ton of people outraged that it was removed.

Relationships sub doesn't want anything to do with me either.

Reddit can't handle a story like this being front page.

I'm being silenced.

Edit: If trp mods want to sticky or sidebar this as you suggested, I don't mind. The whole purpose of this is to help others with my experience.

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[–]adbJ114 29 points29 points [recovered]

My post was removed and I received a really flippant reply from AskMen for asking a harmless dating question the other day. I was a little surprised, but this makes perfect sense.

[–][deleted] 114 points115 points  (3 children)

askmen... more like askcucks

[–]babybopp 37 points38 points  (2 children)

That subreddit is run by womens who camouflage anonymously as men.

[–]broffesorpabst 24 points25 points  (0 children)

You mean men who ask their womyns what their opinion should be?

[–]vagbutters 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It's run by manginas but I can see why you confused them with women.

[–]shit_with_holes 4 points5 points  (9 children)

What's the context? Sounds interesting.

[–]adbJ114 47 points47 points [recovered]

A girl (let's call her Kate) I had gone on a date with six months back asked me out out of the blue recently and I went that night to meet her and her girlfriends at a bar. Kate was flirting with me hard, very physical. Outside, later in the night I started chatting with Kate's female friend, and Kate apparently didn't like it. She got jealous and left shortly after.

Not really a big deal, but I wanted to get mens' perspective on how I should proceed, i.e. how to pursue Kate (or not) in a dignified way. There was nothing racy or judgmental about my post at all.

The moderators at AskMen almost immediately pulled my post, and when I asked why they said something to the effect of "There's nothing substantive to your story and we don't know what a single person was thinking."

I wasn't asking anyone to read her mind, I just wanted to know if other men had been in a similar situation, and how they acted or wished they had acted. I said as much to the AskMen moderators, but I never heard back. Made me feel like I'd done something wrong just for asking for a male perspective on dating.


EDIT: Thanks for the advice, guys. I'm definitely coming to AskTRP the next time I need some feedback.

[–]DailyManliness 42 points43 points  (2 children)

use asktrp, no censoring of questions like that and you don't need to include what kind of pads the woman enjoys

[–]GoingTheHardWay 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Just don't ask on a Friday or saturday night... you don't exactly get the cream of the crop answering.

[–]Horus_Krishna_2 6 points7 points  (0 children)

cuz the cream of the crop is out and about at those times!

[–]1-drukpa-kunley- 36 points37 points  (1 child)

The first thing is to make sure your mind is in the right place before proceeding. Understand WHY you are interested in pursuing Kate and what your expectations are. You'll have a better chance of success if your expectations are aligned with the Red Pill theories of how the sexual marketplace works.

If you decide to pursue her, do not apologize for your actions and do not discuss the previous event. Act like it never happened. Simply ask her to accompany you on one of your outings. "Hey sexy, I'm going to be at X place at Y time- come meet me"

Notice what is going on in that text.
1. It is a command.
2. You don't give a fuck about using proper punctuation because you are too busy (deliberately left out the periods). This communicates that you aren't overly invested in her.
3. It has the word "sexy" in it. You are letting her know up front what your expectations are: sex.

She'll agree or not. Pay attention to her actions after you ask. Don't listen to her words. If she expends effort in making the next meeting happen (I can't make it then but how about X day), that is good (she is investing in you). When attempting to seduce, always err on the side of bold action. And I mean action, not words. You can't negotiate attraction. Be prepared for her to shit-test you and give you shit about talking to that other girl. Read up on how to deal with shit tests. Women give you shit to make sure you ARE the shit.

Do not overly invest in the outcome of this one event (be outcome independent). Realize that you are a salesperson selling yourself. You are attempting to fill the pipeline with as many potential deals as possible. Kate is one prospective deal. Either you close or you don't. Try to work another deal at the same time. This will help establish abundance mentality, which means you are not overly emotionally invested in the outcome of this one sale.

Welcome to Team Awesome. Glad you're here.

[–]Askada 9 points10 points  (0 children)

And that are the answers men are looking for.

TRP is fucking awesome.

[–]zxDanKwan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

BTW: the answer to your question is that Kate was upset you were giving someone else your attention. She was hoping you'd chase after her and apologize and try to make it up to her. That's how she bends you into her frame.

Your best bet was to let her go off and be pouty somewhere else. Don't engage in her narrative. You're the start of the scene, so anyone who walks off stage is out until they return.

Six months later, there's not much to say to bring that case back, but you should have followed up with a call at the next appropriate time to speak with her asking if she wanted to go out on another date, you enjoyed yourself and would like to go again. Don't pay any attention to the friend you talked with, or her reaction to it.

[–]foldpak111 73 points74 points  (7 children)

Dude the mods on AskMen are women. I dream of the day those quack SJWs/feminists fall. It will be glorious and I'll ride whatever momentum we get with such ferocity they'll never bounce back. And then some.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Dude the mods on AskMen are women.

As in “pussies“, or actually lacking the good chromosome?

[–]JablesRadio 9 points10 points  (2 children)

The western world will have to fall for anything such as that to happen. The majority of people see things in ways very similar to our own, here. However, the minority SJW and the ilk scream far louder. It doesn't help that basically all major news organizations produce related stories with the false narrative that a large majority of people see things this way, too. News flash - They don't. That's exactly why they have to scream so loud.

All that said; even with a large silent majority the beltway, media, and volume of a few has some deeply entrenched roots that I honestly don't see anyway around without a total reformatting of western culture.


I hope I'm wrong.

[–]zue3 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It cannot be reformatted. The west is even starting to influence traditional values in Asia. The current generation is completely fucked and its only going to get worse. All because of Western influence. You fools have not only dug your own grave but also those of men everywhere. Thanks for that, assholes.

[–]chinawinsworlds 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's not my generation's fault. I'd say it goes back to world war 1 and 2, too many men died and left their children to become pussies raised by mothers and stepdads. That allowed feminism to grow. Fuck those wars.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Redditdotcom by definition is BP as fuck. It's the perfectly engineered time waster.

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[–]RPFlame 6 points7 points  (1 child)

There are also lots of men browsing Reddit from work (then they wonder why their career is a dead-end but that's another story).

[–]GoingTheHardWay 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Even the MGTOW sub is almost certainly coopted.

A large portion of their posts are nearly content-less hate speach against women. I'm not against outlining examples and having a dialog about it, but just posting a single image that says "Women are total shit and only sever as cum dumpsters" is fucking odd for a sub that's not even supposed to be about women at all. Next to none of the content is about going your own way or improving your life anymore. In fact, the vast majority of posts are focusing on women and feminism.

Oddly enough in a thread about brigading and suspicious accounts posting shit post content and forcing it to the front page, I was banned for pointing out that the number of shit posts reaching the front page made it look like a "hate speach" subreddit and that there appeared to be a concerted effort to have that sub shut down or de-legitimized with said content.

Previous posts about the lack of quality over the past few months had been met with accusations of "concern trolling".

Needless to say, the mods here have done an outstanding job stemming the flow of destructive influences here.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Many many MGTOW aren't really MGTOW, but are just too lazy to better thenselves amd use those strawmen to avoid having to face the reality that they got a shitty lofe and lack the power to turn it around. This then results in the severe anger.

I'd personally consider myself at least sympathizing with the MGTOW ideas, so no beef to those, who really are.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's like those girly breakup songs that hit T40 every 6-12 months where the theme of the song is "i don't care, i really don't care." ... bull fucking shit... if she didn't care, she wouldn't have a song broadcast on every T40 radio station. going that far about something is the direct opposite of "not caring."

there's nothing inherently wrong with MGTOW... just that posers will think it's cool and fake it, while SJWs/feminists will use agent provocateur / false flag tricks to get the sub banned.

[–]broskiatwork 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think Men's Rights is still safe, though admittingly this might not 'belong' there. Then again... it is about men's rights in a way. Who's to say (though I doubt they'd tell him to shove off).

[–]SmilingWatermelon 28 points29 points  (0 children)

This is what they do. Your story...your life is a prime example of the destructive powers women have.

They silence you because you preach the truth. Don't stop preaching. Teach the younger generations.

Thank you for sharing your story.

[–]flip69 24 points25 points  (14 children)

It's the SJW's and their damn narrative that they want to see (Just look at a lot of the recent Ozzy & Sharon Osbourne threads where they're all joyful that Sharron's got the house and kids "behind her" because Ozzy is such a "horrible guy").

You're young Legion327 and you made some mistakes that is true. But the situation isn't hopeless you can do your research and fight for your children back, it's going to take time but it's entirely possible. My friend's done it with his baby mamma's and you can as well. (He's got complete 100% custody of all 3 of his kids)

Here's something that's going to be hard to hear but you have to have it said.

Given her behavior, IT IS VERY POSSIBLE that she's cheated on you before the MP and that the child is not your own biological son.

This has also happened with one of my friends (former Military).

The real reason why she wants control over the child is because she's aware that as more time goes on you might very well realize that it's not your kid and a simple DNA test will prove you're not the father. The custody will go back to her (and perhaps him once identified) and that she'll lose all those nice benefits and monthly child support paycheck. Her being nice to you for a long as she was is perhaps her drawing out the clock - depending on the state and local laws there's a time limit on when a husband can sue over paternity.

Women do this A LOT more than what people talk about (Military), it's very likely a old highschool "friend" or someone else that she's met while you weren't within eyesight.

Anyway, she ran off and left you with the kid, now she's had some time to establish herself with someone new (perhaps that old HS friend?) she's going to use you for the paycheck by getting full custody where the kid can be raised by his natural biological father (or someone else).

This is pretty much what happened to my friend... including his having to quit his job (VA) and much more. He was also targeted by a young woman and used blindly for years before she leapfrogged and left him paying child support for a kid that isn't his own blood.


What I suggest is that you get your lawyer to force a paternity test and have her go and take the child in to a facility where it can blood drawn to compare to your DNA.

You have a time limit on this (depending on the state). Again, the longer you wait the worse off you'll be. You'll always have some latitude but the sooner you act the better.

It's something that many women have done because it's VERY DIFFICULT for men to face that possibility and many men don't want to deal with it. Women always know it's theirs when it comes out. But most men don't even do the math for when their children are conceived and trust me, WOMEN LIE! When faced with the hundreds of thousands of dollars they can take from you (and out of the mouths of any future biological children you may have when remarried) it's really worth biting the bullet, facing this head on and forcing the test on her.

Get that out of the way ASAP.

Then once confirmed, you'll (ironically) have a stronger case for your custody right OR you can challenge the assumed paternity and get out from underneath her entirely.

As odd as it may seem, in the USA actual paternity doesn't come into play at court when someone is married like it should be. Blame this on the feminists in the 1970's and their fighting over divorce and the writing of child support laws. Children come first and infidelity doesn't carry weight in the court, what carries weight is that you signed a marriage license and got listed on the birth certificate. Hospitals have taken the position that they don't carry out paternity testing when a child is born to avoid all the drama of husbands finding out that the child isn't theirs up to 30% of the time. Also, IF you accept the child by helping raise him for a period of time (like you did), it means that you're legally obligated in many states for child support.

You think that her up and leaving you wasn't about something more? ... She likely already spoke to a lawyer about it LONG BEFORE she left you without a word. Even if she hasn't, there's also these kinds of knitting circles sharing of info among military wives that I used to hear a lot of when growing up coming out of the next room as a kid - they share info when they gossip in the kitchen. I had a former military wife (neighbor) that went slutting around for years targeting only Military guys so she "could settle down". When questioned why (after a few drinks with her roommate) I heard all about how she liked the benefits they get and that how they're gone for half the year so she doesn't actually have to live with someone, .... etc.

The best quote was "I just want to find someone I can deal with.", No where in that entire conversation did she say anything about "love" or commitment. It was purely a financial motivation for her and I know that she's not alone in this opinion... there's lots of women like that out there.

I'm thinking that you were targeted by someone like this.

So start working on facts and assume nothing.
Establish that the child is in fact yours then go on from there.

Also communicate via texts if you have too and keep a record of all of it. The lawyers are nice but your ex is less likely to slip up when she's going through her lawyer to pass info to your lawyer. IF you communicate via text she can give you all the info you need ON RECORD. Keep your head screwed on tight because texting IS a double edge sword and she obviously knows your buttons to push.

Hope you read this & good luck!


Talk to the lawyer - Get a DNA test on the kid ASAP! Chances are that this is a larger setup than what you currently imagine.

[–]zenkibudo 4 points5 points  (11 children)

Pretty damn awesome advice, have an upvote. ♂

[–]flip69 2 points3 points  (10 children)

Thanks... I've kept my eyes opened and have learned from my friends examples (male and female).

[–]2legion327[S] 8 points9 points  (9 children)

This would be good advice is I was still 22 and the divorce had just happened. Perhaps you didn't read the "EDIT" portion at the bottom of the post? This was all 9 years ago. He's been raised as my son for the last 9 years. I have him with me every other weekend and all summer long. We even play PS4 every Wednesday night too online together. Bottom line -- whether he's mine or not biologically at this point is totally irrelevant. He's my son. No test changes that.

That said, the kid looks exactly like I did at that age and even his personality is eerily similar as well. I have very very little doubt he's mine but again, I couldn't care less if he is or not at this point. He's still my boy.

I'm sure as hell not about to go get him tested and then, on the off chance that he isn't, just suddenly stop loving my only son that I've centered my entire life and all my efforts around for damn near a decade. That wouldn't make any sense.

[–]perkam 6 points7 points  (5 children)

He's my son. No test changes that.

The test doesn't change whether you love your son, but it does change whether or not you pay the price for her infidelity.

Think about it, ever hear a woman talk about a child that isn't hers as "he's still my son"?

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I can understand the TIFU one being deleted because they are generally written for laughs/entertainment.

Relationships is white knight heaven. All morons. Glad you found TRP things will only get better now

[–]1PrinceofSpades 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Of course you are; people don't want to take the pill and learn the dark truth of the world. They like their happy little make believes where their girlfriend hasn't left them for someone better yet. They like thinking this shit doesn't happen every. Single. Day.

There is no justice in the world. There is no more joy than what you create for yourself. Be thankful you still have your life, your looks, and your health. Not everyone gets off so easily, or so early. You're here now. Welcome to the last bastion of strangers to listen to your problems and actually help you with them. Don't be afraid to cry. You have the right to. Plus, there aren't any women around, so you can take an honest moment and let yourself be emotionally weak. Just remember to give yourself an appropriate amount of time, then get back on the horse and push forwards. Always. Push. Forwards.

[–]SleepingSlave 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Yeah don't bother with Relationships or any of those subs, very SJW now.

I can second this. Relationships is a shit hole that believes that no matter what is going on in your relationship, the male is the bad guy. I disagreed, which was the first and last mistake I ever made there.

EDIT: changed never to ever.

[–]PIGamer86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Does nobody here think men should have ANY fucking reproductive rights!?"


[–]foldpak111 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Never forget that we are male aka subhuman pieces of amphibian shit. I'm not even surprised reading your story, which is even more disturbing than what happened to you. Says a lot about the society we live in.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This came across my frontpage, I remember reading it and being furious. As far as I remember its word for word. Family court is a farce.

[–]Nydusurmainus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It will be one particular moderator.

[–]yomo86 26 points27 points  (2 children)

I feel for this dude. The song of Ice and Fire ie Divorce and Custody always goes the same.

Man falls in Love

Man marries girl because reasons

Man has children mark my words: planned children are somewhat the exception than the rule

Man becomes soft - meaning he treats his woman like a man ie respect, honor and the benefit of the doubt

Man gets served

Man forgets to lawyer up because this would mean he has to take the gloves off and go to war with his own wife

Man loses, systems butt fucks him with CS and alimony for the next 25 years.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (1 child)

This. It's happened thousands of times and men still act surprised when it happens to them. I don't blame them though, because they drank the bluepill punch served to them left and right. "Oh, don't think about those divorce stories, just pick the right woman!"

There is no right woman. 75% of divorces are initiated by women with the reason listed as "dissatisfaction." I'm not familiar with alimony costs (obviously it varies) but I know a lowball estimate is $500 a month. After five years that's 30 grand. Would any man really leave 30 grand in a suitcase on the table and trust someone not to steal it if they could get away with it completely legally?

[–]DeltaRecon2552 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It is exactly the same. I read it on TIFU

[–]Stank999 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I can confirm that this is the exact post. This kind of thing pisses me off. Also, I'm glad there's a place he could post this.

[–]Boovs4life 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I actually commented on that post "this is going to be on TRP. I guarantee it." Naturally, i got downvoted to oblivion.

[–]Askada 3 points4 points  (1 child)

That's why you never mention TRP outside TRP.

[–]VigilantRedRooster 78 points79 points  (9 children)

I'm surprised the part about the MP getting in deep shit with the chain of command wasn't part of this story. Doesn't the military take adultery quite seriously, especially when it ends an innocent soldier's enlistment?

[–]On_Parole_from_Hell 49 points50 points  (2 children)

Just like most things, adultery has to be proven and it is one of the hardest things to prove. At most, the military will issue a no contact order.

If you are well liked, nothing will happen to you.

[–]2legion327[S] 71 points72 points  (1 child)

This. Exactly what happened. Guy got off. Military police, just like civilian police, watch out for their own even when they're wrong.

[–]zenkibudo 18 points19 points  (0 children)

yes yes yes. The only way most Commanders get adulterers courts martialed/Art 15'd is via their confession. Without that or some photographic-dimwitted-posted-my-fuck-to-facebook evidence, it's a slim case indeed.

[–]zenkibudo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

absolutely - punishable under the UCMJ, however... (more details in reply to /u/legion327, below)

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[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

They do. It's not always enforced teh same everywhere, but it's on the books as illegal for the guy

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lol, it's rampant... Best not to get angry. All the hypergamy people talk about here is amplified there.

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[–]2legion327[S] 49 points50 points  (3 children)

I was a code 3 for re-enlistment based on how they put me out. This basically means that because they put me out due to a family hardship discharge, they are going to operate on the assumption that that hardship continues to exist unless proven otherwise and even then they've gotta make an exception. Bottom line, technically it's possible but unlikely. Ultimately, I moved on, did college, got a good job working a for a law firm and I've moved up the ladder there too. I can more than provide for my boy so I'm good with what I'm doing now. Still miss the Army sometimes though.

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[–]240mikex 19 points20 points  (2 children)

You can never fucking escape Jody. Yes my friend he's always around.

I feel your pain brother happened to me with 2 girls while I was in the Marines. But not to your extent. Girls are never faithful when you are active duty.

Watching your guys leave fuck man. I would of cried too man. I'm getting choked up reading this. Brothers in arms are fucking blood in my book.

My thoughts and prayers with you brother, keep attacking.

Why the did they discharge you? That doesn't make sense.


[–]BoyWhoreWithASword 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Girls are never faithful when you are active duty.

Yep I know an Army wife right now who's cheating on her husband right now. I really don't get why any man in the military gets married. This is why we need the red pill. This is real fucking shit.

Why the did they discharge you? That doesn't make sense.

You can't be a single parent on active duty. If you're a single parent you can't enlist unless you transfer custody of your child. Especially in the case of a deployment. Since his wife left him and there was no one to give custody to he was fucked.

[–]covertpenguin3390 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Straight up man... I'm at flight school with all "officers" and it still doesn't make a difference. Every single girl here who's learning to fly and left their man at home has cheated (of the girls I've met). It's insane. Good amount of the guys have too. I even had a chance to bang one who's husband was back home with her kid!! And her husband was enlisted in the army as well. I gave it a hard next out of my own morals and not wanting a GOMAR, but I'm sure someone else hit it immediately after.

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[–]1rporion 252 points253 points  (10 children)

Aaaaand for all the blue pill trolls who wonder why we even exist...

Because you delete those voices, you silence them, you cannot bear the mere thought that they even might be true....

Well, you thought they would stay silent forever just so that your childish fantasies may endure?

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (7 children)

Is it possible that this is because blue pillers simply don't get laid or get into relationships with attractive women? Every blue pill mangina I know is dating some ham beast feminist, okay with getting cuck'd or both.

[–]RPFlame 31 points32 points  (5 children)

Blue pillers don't get laid because they even censor their own self: Their sexual urges, their primal instincts, the potential of their male body in terms of building knowledge and muscle. They're even so damn uncomfortable with their sexuality and that's why NoFap is a thing. It's not about quitting porn, it's about shaming the act of feeling arousal towards a hot girl in the class.

I've read some cringe-worthy shit there, like a guy was basically saying "shame on me for wanting to have sex with a girl I don't know her name yet because I haven't found the balls to talk to her", and another one who was struggling to chat up a girl because he couldn't find a neutral positive thing to say that isn't about her silhouette.

Just check some random thread from there

Everybody has their specific reasons. Some want the "super powers", others want to stop supporting an industry that dehumanizes women, etc.

One of the reasonings it to "stop supporting an industry that DEHUMANIZES women". God forbid, women being responsible for their choice to do porn? No, it's the INDUSTRY that it's at fault!

As I said below, do it for the right reasons. Do it out of self-respect for not wanting to be the guy who grabs his dick and watches the muscular men fuck the brains out of a girl while they fleetingly imagine they are him seconds before they cum.

[–]Mudpielol 15 points16 points  (3 children)

nofap for me is about quitting porn and jerking off, and it is working for me. Now, as everywhere on the interwebz there will be idiots who proclaim "superpowers" simply just because they stopped watching pron and jerking off.

It helps me get over my mental blocks that I have about interacting with women. It boosted my self confidence indirectly, I just want to work out now and feel more energetic, and want to do more with my life. It helps me have purpose.

No, women are not falling into my dick left and right just because I stopped jerking off and watching porn. But I am becoming a better man because I don't want to do it anympre. Just because I don't want to watch porn and jerk off does not mean I am not attracted to women, and I don't want to have sex with them.

It works for me.

[–]RPFlame 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Quitting with the right mindset is good - "I don't need this anymore". Quitting with the bad mindset - "omg, I feel so bad I get boners I objectify womyn" - won't get you much. Why? Because you keep having the wrong idea about yourself.

Their issues are deeper than masturbation. They are insecure with their sexuality. I'm not criticizing the choice of abstinence from masturbation, but the motivational reasons.

The best thing I've done after starting programming is quitting masturbation. There's something animalistic (if that's the right word) when I approach a girl and I have a boner. My brain that moment goes "I know I can fuck you hard, and I'm sure you will like it" without thinking twice about it. That gives me confidence, because you know, I can deliver the results if we get there, if we don't there's always the next one. (also responding to /u/StoicCrane to avoid replicating the majority of my post).

[–]1StoicCrane 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's good to kick the habit but ultimate anyone who resist their primal instincts sets themselves up for failure in the long-run. Humans are a delicate balance between divinity and savagery. Reject one aspect and the other goes awry.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The rabbit holes goes a LOT deeper than this.

[–]Il128 41 points41 points [recovered]

The details change but the story is always the same.

[–]NietzscheExplosion 150 points151 points  (22 children)

Somehow I think your post is not going to be deleted... Not really the form they like here, but it's a good FR.(Classic quite frankly).

Read the sidebar, Prepare for Misandry bubble bursting, get revenge.

Edit: Ok I wasn't going to say this but I can't help it. You need to have a paternity test done to see if that's your son.

[–]2legion327[S] 84 points85 points  (21 children)

He's 9 years old now. I've thought about it now and then but at this point, it wouldn't change a damn thing. I'd still pay the child support because I want to provide for him and I'd still see him every other weekend and summers... because he's my boy. No test is changing that. So why waste the $50? (Or however much it would cost)

All that said, he looks exactly like I did at that age and his personality is just like mine too, so I have little doubt that he is mine biologically.

His mother actually recently commented (jokingly) "I divorced you to get away from you and now I'm stuck with you anyway because he's just the shorter version."

I (also jokingly) replied "Gotcha, bitch."

[–]NietzscheExplosion 24 points25 points  (8 children)

Fair enough. Anyway, it seems like you are ok now. Keep telling this story though.

[–]2legion327[S] 59 points60 points  (7 children)

Yeah that's what I was trying to do until I started getting censored all to hell. I've been sitting on this for nearly a decade and never told this story publicly. To be frank, it took a fair amount of fortitude to put this out there but I figure there's folks who could learn from and appreciate it and hopefully not make some of the same choices I did. I massively underestimated how true that was based on the overwhelming response I received... right up until I was silenced.

[–]aanarchist 53 points54 points  (1 child)

didn't you get the memo? any story that paints a woman in a bad light is politically incorrect, defamation and grounds for a false rape accusation.

[–]Borsao66 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or in my case, false stalking charges.

[–]foldpak111 14 points15 points  (0 children)

You're always going to have a place here, sir. We're like the eye of the storm. Everyone around us is batshit crazy and we're the calm individuals telling it how it is.

[–]Senior Contributordeepthrill 11 points12 points  (0 children)

What's sad is that while it took a lot for you personally to post this, I found this just one of a hundred similar stories I've read over the years here on trp. It didn't emotionally shock me as much.

Jaded? Maybe.

The fact that I wasn't shocked is, to me, more telling than the actual story itself.

Your story goes into the collection of stories which helps young men open their eyes to the hidden savage nature of our world, so I have no doubt your story will have an impact to some degree.

[–]slimcoat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To be frank, it took a fair amount of fortitude to put this out there

I know this feeling -- the feeling that you've done something horribly wrong and you're ashamed to admit it, when deep down in your gut you know you've done absolutely nothing wrong. So you remain silent because it's just easier.

[–]FreyWill 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What's your relationship with the mother like now?

[–]2legion327[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Actually pretty good. We co-parent and generally agree on parenting approach and practices. This was all 9 years ago so there's been plenty of time for the bad blood between us to subside. We never talk shit about each other to him and if we have a disagreement with each other about something regarding him (which is pretty rare,) it's never discussed in his presence. Parents that talk trash about the other parent to their kid are the lowest scum. It's not a child's job to be a fucking therapist. Who's the adult at that point?

[–]truthyego 22 points23 points  (6 children)

I think when he's 12 he can decide which parent he wants to live with. That's perfect, cause that's about when puberty starts, and the time where a boy especially needs his father to show him how to be a man. A RP man.

[–]UCISee 20 points21 points  (5 children)

This is a very common misconception. I went through this when I was about 14 and the judge could not have cared less what I had to say. You're a child in a courtroom, they literally do not take your opinion into account for a millisecond.

That being said, thats my experience, not the rule.

[–]truthyego 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Probly varies state to state

[–]UCISee 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Agreed, but I'm in California, AKA the most liberal of all the states. I think if any state would follow this it would be California. Not to mention that when we say "The court will listen..." What we really mean is the judge. If the judge sees a good case on one side, a bad case on the other, and a kid in the middle pointing to the bad case, do you really think the judge is going to send them the way of the bad case? Judges oversee cases. They don't care what a child wants. You cant even buy a nude magazine at 14 how are you supposed to know whats good for you? This is the thinking that it has to pass. Remember, OJ got off in a court of law.

[–]broffesorpabst 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Our family court system is a money making messed up place...

[–]AnewAccount98 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seconded. NJ, USA. Tried at 14 and then 16. Judge couldn't have cared less.

[–]vagbutters 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You should still get the paternity test. Raising another man's child isn't a joke, and regardless of how you feel about your son now, you ought to know the truth

[–]RPFlame 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe for you but try to get in his shoes once he grows up and he might want to meet his biological father (assuming that it's not you here, for the sake of the argument).

It's not just about you, it's also about him.

Then again, if his biological dad doesn't give a fuck, is there even a point to look for him?

[–]jackandjill22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude, this is some 'Gone girl' shit.

[–]RedSugarPill 141 points142 points  (10 children)

Over 2000 points at tifu, lots of nice comments and support, and deleted. And no record of submission in relationships, which I can't understand. This is not social justice or feminism; it's plain evil censorship. We are at war, gentlemen.

[–]foldpak111 22 points23 points  (2 children)

You sound like a modern-day King Leonidas.

I like it.

[–]NietzscheExplosion 7 points8 points  (0 children)

THIS IS REDPILL! kick to the bluepills

[–]vagbutters 10 points11 points  (6 children)

This is what leftism produces-- damaged women, emasculated men, and censorship of anything that goes against the grain of what is preached.

[–]1DubbleFUPAwitCheez 32 points33 points  (0 children)

That's enough rage porn for today.

[–]TheVictor333 32 points33 points  (3 children)

I read the original topic and saw a comment from you saying you got married again.

"Fool me once, shame on you..."

[–]Specter242 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Fool me twice can't put the blame on you" "Fool me three times f$#* the peace sign load the chopper let it rain on you"

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (3 children)

Well, if it makes you feel any better it's highly unlikely you would have won custody even without that recording and if you'd done everything right. A friend of mine is a lawyer and sums up custody cases with two words: mom wins.

So while it was a bad idea to not listen to your lawyer, it probably was not why you lost. Not having a vagina is why you lost.

[–]topapito 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The voting system here is broken, it only let me upvote you once.

[–]Moneyley 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Youre right. If anything it helped that he lost quicker. His fuck up just made the developments unfurl quicker. Had he not admitted to the things he did she couldve attempted to mindfuck him even more and even proven him unstable.

He was already vulnerable. She wanted to go for a quick settlement. The longer communication was open the more dumber things he couldve said.

Im glad he has overcome this

[–]iamz3ro 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Men cry to relieve pain. Women cry to gain attention.

[–]ErenYeager91 123 points124 points  (18 children)

First, thank you for this story and for opening up to us. Hope you can pull yourself out of this state.

She opened up to me about how her dad had raped her when she was 9. My heart went out to her and we kept >in touch for several months even after I left to go back to Korea.

This was your first mistake. I never trust a woman that says she was raped. In fact, that is a huge red flag.

I know a girl that was raped at her young age. That girl always sits in the last row because she can't stand for someone to be behind her. She can't look you in the eyes. And no matter what, she never said anything about her experience. (I know that she was raped because I know her mother.) The level of her trauma is so high that when some bitch says to me she was raped, I just laugh at her, because I know what a real victim look like.

Remember, a girl that "opens" to you how she was raped in first few dates, is mostly just manipulating you or herself, acting as some victim. Run away from those bitches and don't try to fix or save them.

[–]LippyMinded 76 points77 points  (4 children)

If the story is true, run away. You're not qualified to handle a real rape victim. If the story isn't true, run away. You're not qualified to handle this level of narcissism and psychopathy. Either way, run the fuck away if you ever hear the rape word.

[–]reckful994 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I heard this from a girl I was flirting with a few months back. At this point, she probably didn't know my last name off the top of her head, but she was comfortable enough to share that she was raped.

It was a hard next.

[–]Aziz_92 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I have written what you said down in my journal. Those are words of wisdom. Thank you.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is exactly correct.

I know because I lived through it with my ex-fiancee.

Regardless of what actually happened, I can tell you from hard won experience that the average man does not have the psychological and medical skill set required to handle this level of mental dysfunction.

You can't fix them. All you can do is remove yourself from the situation and move on with life.

[–]afkb39sdfb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To add, abuse too. If they ever say they were ever abuse (by a parent, relative, ex, etc.) it is a huge red. Real or made up, as LippyMinded said above, their nuts either way.

[–]Indigo_Monkey 30 points31 points  (1 child)

I never trust a woman that says she was raped. In fact, that is a huge red flag.

I believe this is correct. I once went on a date with a girl who I knew had been fucking with my roommate casually in the past; the only reason was because she was basically offering herself on a plate, obviously as a result I went into it quite suspicious. On that date of ours she told me she had been raped by some relative in the past. My first thought was "bullshit", you wouldn't tell me that if it were true, not here at a bar. I decided not to further any sexual relationship with her.

It turns out that she was only trying to get in bed with me to make the guy jealous for some scheme of getting him to want her. That was conniving and slimy.

[–]foldpak111 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Dealt with a couple almost LTR's who lied about this. Also knew a real rape victim (my sister). She never speaks of it and isn't very outgoing anymore.

[–]EvrythingISayIsRight 15 points16 points  (3 children)

I never trust a woman that says she was raped. In fact, that is a huge red flag.

Lol you wouldn't believe how many women have a rape story to share. Its almost as if they practice telling it in the mirror on a weekly basis so they can always have it prepped in their mind to tell everyone when the topic comes up.

[–]BleachedWhale 9 points10 points  (0 children)

After being all concerned and asking about my SO's rape (still cringe thinking how β), she ended up admitting

"It wasn't exactly rape"

[–]1lurkingtacopiller 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I've been half-tempted in the past to come up with a rape story of my own just to compete with the narcissism. "Yeah, she just couldn't help herself when she saw me, so she raped me. I'm sooo desireable."

Because that's all it is. They want to be attractive enough to be raped.

[–]Nyirripi 8 points9 points  (0 children)

So true it hurts. I wish this sub existed 40 years ago. I was so ignorant.

[–]321LTD123 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I never trust a woman that says she was raped. In fact, that is a huge red flag.

This is very very true. I dated a gorgeous sociopath when I was 19 years old who used this trick on me too. I retrospect, she liked sex anywhere and everywhere and worked in a sex toy shop, which leads me to believe she was lying. That and her story changed.

This was before any resource like TRP existed. Once I saw her true behavior, I realized all the stories she told me were the bedrock foundation to her manipulation routine. My instincts told me something was wrong and I got rid of her.

Always assume a female is a lying whore unless you know for a fact otherwise.

[–]aanarchist 46 points47 points  (19 children)

doesn't even sound like you were a beta, a military officer with his shit together. there's stories of guys who are fucking celebrities, the top 5% of men, who still got fucked over by some cunt.

[–]RedditAdminsSuck_88 56 points57 points  (15 children)

"If I can land a Top 1% male, that means I could possibly land a Top 0.5% male! And if I can land a Top 0.5% male, that means I have a chance to land a Top 0.1% male!!!"

-Female logic

No such thing as good enough for a woman. They always think they can do better. It's like a gambler in a casino. Walks in saying "I'll be glad if I double my money". They double their money and say "If I doubled my money, I could triple it!". Greed sets in and they give all their money back to the house.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (10 children)

Which is why I don't understand dudes on TRP who think if you're just simply alpha enough, you won't get cheated on.

[–]LockeNDemosthenes 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Everyone can get cheated on - that's advertised here amply under the AWALT principle. But if someone was following RP tenets to their logical conclusion, their outcome independence and abundance mentality would let them brush off a cheating GF without giving a fuck.

[–]Endorsed Contributordown_with_whomever 25 points26 points  (6 children)

Because they're bragging about their e-peen.

They want to think of the "other" as beta and themselves as "alpha" and there are so few places you can do that. But a lot of guys here are exaggerating or lying.

No one is alpha enough to be immune to the risks of AWALT.

I said in a previous thread - Elon Musk got divorce raped TWICE. You are not better than him. No one is immune.

[–]scottbrio 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Holy shit- I just finished listening to the book about him. His ex-wife got like $30,000 a MONTH in alimony.

And then hearing his second wife talking about why they got remarried after freshly getting divorced... "I just felt like I'd never be able to connect with anyone in the same way again"... Meaning 'billions of dollars for life is much better than $30k a month for 18 years'

He's a mad genius dude but he's so BP it hurts.

[–]PlanB_pedofile 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Even the most seemingly alpha of men turn can be beta whipped.

Was just reading a story on porn star christy mack who got beaten by her boxer boyfriend (the war machine) after she was sleeping with another man after being broken up.

Dude, he's the war machine, but apparently not enough to satisfy a porn star. No that you should ltr a porn star in the first place. 2nd after breaking up, he had hard core oneitis and was stalking her. (Dude's smv is through the roof, why have oneitis over a slut?), then in rage beat her when she was with another dude..... yea, he clearly couldn't stand it when his ex gal who's had 99 dicks in her, went for a 100th

TRP is needed for men in all stages across all smv fields.

[–]GermanDude 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That story really puts things in perspective. Love it. It just shows you really need to work hard to reframe your mind / control your emotions.

[–]reigorius 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's not necessarily top 1% or 0.5%, it's just that what is available that seems better than what she is currently having. Hell, even the dog-walker is better because he makes her laugh and desired.

[–]aanarchist 4 points5 points  (1 child)

they give their money back to the house, put up all their possessions as collateral, take out massive loans from sharks, and end up in the streets addicted to heroin sucking dicks for 5 dollars a pop. insatiable is right.

[–]Ibex3D 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's just ridiculous.

I get at least 10 a head.

[–]ChadFuckingThunder 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's all about the environment. Op here is most definitely alpha, but he's only Sgt. There are a lot more people above him in a hierarchy and hypergamy loves it.

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[–]mugatucrazypills 19 points20 points  (2 children)

CARRY HER OWN CHILD of under 1 year's age, on a dick ride to cheat on her husband.

80% of women would do this for enough tingles. You need to stop thinking in terms of human concepts of morality.

[–]cheeky_throwaway101 31 points32 points  (4 children)

This is textbook redpill. And quite frankly it is only a good thing that they kicked you out of the other subreddits, it should come of no surprise to The Blue Pill etc. why TRP numbers are growing day by day.

[–]NietzscheExplosion 9 points10 points  (3 children)

That's right. Redpill loves all the good men... and the evil ones too. muhahahah

[–]TomFoo 27 points28 points  (2 children)

TRP is the answer to 'where did all the good men go?'

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (1 child)

100% truth. Men who are smart, respectable, self confident, and motivated enough to be "the good men" are starting to realize that no woman will earn his long term commitment.

[–]MaleGoddess 28 points29 points  (0 children)

52% of marriages end up in divorce.

70% of divorces are initiated by the woman.

86% of custody cases women are awarded primary custody.

I can not say this enough.

Dude, my son's mother attempted suicide 3 times in one year, once in front of him. $20,000 and a year and a half later, "There's not enough to flip custody."

She fucking told my 7 year old son that she was going to end her life because no one loved her and downed as many pills as she could swallow. "not enough to flip custody."

I called CPS and all they could say is that it's emotional abuse, but not enough for them to do anything.

I'm still paying off my attorney fees a year later. I maxed out my credit cards, took out a personal loan, and refinanced my car just so I could continue this custody case, and just to be told "no".

Seriously, just don't have kids if you're a male in the US. You are fucked. No matter which way you look at it, you are fucked.

Current day, my son being raised by a mentally unstable cunt, I'm getting calls from the school every other week. When I went to pick him up from school today, he told the principle that "he has a gun and he's going to hurt me." Where the fuck do you think he heard that from? His own fucking mother a year ago when she refused me my weekend access to my son. She called the cops when I came to pick up my son, claimed I had a gun and she was scared of me, and all of this in front of him.

Edit: and being an army veteran, I feel your fucking pain.

When my son was 6 months old(his mother and I were never together, just some bitch who lied about being on birth control), I was a week out from deployment and her mother called to inform me that her daughter took off, she hadn't heard from her for 3 months, and she was filing for custody. I signed over my rights to her mother, and then by the time I was returning from deployment(I barely knew the chick, so I didn't know her mother was insane too), her mother was giving custody back to her because "she's ready to be responsible now."

[–]mehdreamer 11 points12 points  (0 children)

"Raped by her father"

HUGE Red flag..

Guys, red flags are real...we should always listen to red flags

[–]RedditAdminsSuck_88 23 points24 points  (3 children)


I have a lot of friends in the military and they all get married to take advantage of the benefits. I don't get this because AWALT.

Women are always prone to branch swing. They have short term memories and are always looking for instant gratification. If you are going to be deployed overseas she isn't going to wait around for you. She will branch swing. Hypergamy doesn't care about anything else.

Your post was deleted from those subs because they are run by SRS and SRS doesn't like things that cast women in a bad light or as the bad guy.

I would also get a paternity test to make sure the kid is yours. AWALT. If she was cheating even when you were living together than who knows whose kid it is.

[–]Eyes_Of_The_Dragon 14 points15 points  (1 child)

We should petition the military to give Vasalgel to all new recruits so that they can delay fatherhood until after they are discharged. The base rats would all move.

[–]wedsngr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Soon. This will help smart guys change the game - http://www.sciencealert.com/reversible-male-birth-control-just-passed-another-trial-and-could-be-on-sale-within-2-years

F: "We're pregnant!"
M: "No, you're pregnant. And that's fascinating, because..."

[–]jonseagull 9 points10 points  (9 children)

This bitch better hope there isn't a hell.

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (8 children)

All women better hope there isnt a hell.

In Islam, the Quran says its mostly women that inhabite hell LMAO. Makes sense.

[–]Mattsinger 14 points15 points  (4 children)

In Islam, the Quran says its mostly women that inhabite hell

That is fucking hilarious. I had to google it for myself, and it makes a lot of sense. Link: https://islamqa.info/en/21457

"“They are ungrateful to their companions (husbands) and ungrateful for good treatment. If you are kind to one of them for a lifetime then she sees one (undesirable) thing in you, she will say, ‘I have never had anything good from you.’”

"Then he said, ‘Give in charity, for you are the majority of the fuel of Hell. A woman with dark cheeks stood up in the midst of the women and said, ‘Why is that, O Messenger of Allah?’ He said, ‘Because you complain too much and are ungrateful to your husbands.’ Then they started to give their jewellery in charity, throwing their earrings and rings into Bilal’s cloak.”

my sides

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Right? Even the quran tells you to treat women like shit LOL. I'm starting to lean towards atheism, but I'm not gonna lie. I love how mancentric and patriarchal Islam is. Christianity has already been corrupted by feminism. Don't think it'll happen to Islam.

[–]Turkerthelurker 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What do you mean "even" the Quran? If I had to guess one book that recommends treating women like shit, it'd be the Quran lol.

As an athiest as well, I find it funny just how spot on the religious books were in trying to curb the female imperative.

[–]vicious_armbar 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Any woman that cheats on a soldier deployed in a combat zone, or about to deployed should be charged with Treason for giving: "Aid and Comfort" to an enemy of the United States. Fucking with a grunts head while deployed certainly makes it easier for enemy combatants to kill him. Of course we won't do that because women are treated like perpetual victims.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

PSA: Don't get married, ever. BUT ESPECIALLY DON'T GET MARRIED OR HAVE AN LTR OR KIDS IF YOU'RE IN THE MILITARY. See how this guy got fucked over? This shit happens ALL THE TIME. Women are not loyal, they will all cheat. Don't give a woman the ability to take half your shit and your kids from you. Military men should stick strictly to one night stands and plates.

[–]EvrythingISayIsRight 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Of course the gun was locked up but she claimed he was in danger.

Its almost comical how the courts are stacked against men. Courts will search for any reason to not give the man custody, even if its unrelated and minuscule. Meanwhile, women get custody by default, unless there is a hard reason otherwise (insanity, violent, junkie, etc). And don't forget that she almost always gets 18 years of free money checks, subsidized by you.

When the odds are stacked against you the only winning move is to not play. Always wear a condom and never get married.

[–]FrameWalker 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What's important to realize here is that the woman is not some extraordinary cruel bitch, but is actually the typical woman. She is the rule not the exception.

[–]my_name_is_gato 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What state were you in if you don't mind me asking? Some states do not permit recording another person without your consent. Sorry you had to endure this.

[–]boogalooshrimp1103 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Did you get hit with child support after all that?

[–]2legion327[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yes, but I have no problem paying it. I'm grateful that she does actually use it for him instead of just blowing it on dumb crap like some single moms do.

[–]Betamax69 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yea. My military ex-wife used my child support for things like a tattoo for herself and a leather jacket. That was one of the years I had a tough time and child support agency sends them your tax return as a lump sum

[–]throwaway-aa2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for posting this. I hate that other people in the same boat I'm in had to lose for me to gain. I'm so glad I'm on this path now... I would be content getting married if there was some actual benefit other than complete downside, and mostly shaming men to make it happen. Fuck em... I'll continue to lift and make more money.

[–]alkyjason 3 points4 points  (0 children)

All of these horror stories that I read on a daily basis about men & fathers getting reamed by the courts make me glad I decided to keep my dick in my pants.

[–]Kyle5035 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The title sounds like the book 'Shantaram'. Its based on a true story of a man who loses his child and wife in Australia. Turns to drugs and robs shops to fund his drug addiction. Escapes maximum security jail in broad day light and eventually travels to India.

Lives in a slum, becomes a 'medicine man' in the slum and eventually ends up becoming a gun slinger for a local mafia lord. Ends up running guns for the resistance fighters in Afghanistan against Russia, stars in Bollywood movies and the story goes on.

Its one my favourite books and its honestly hard to believe this is one mans story. I strongly recommend reading it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm gonna ask, given her apparent proclivities, did you get a DNA test to confirm that the boy is actually your son? It may be something you don't want to face, but better to find out and take action now.

[–]bomi3ster 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your story lacked minorities, put women in a bad light, and made a serviceman seem sane. Of coarse it gets removed from cucked subs.

There are a few good subs left, but don't take it for granted. I appreciate the work the mods here do, it must be a pain in the ass to fight this battle on reddit.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)


What is this?

[–]Entershikari 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"I'm remaried since then"

Aaayyyyyy lmmaooo

[–]TRP117 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Appreciate you sharing this with us. I never saw your original posts, but I can't believe something like this gets censored from Reddit. You didn't even threaten anyone in your post, it was factual and free of any crazy rhetoric.

Anyway I wish you the best in your situation, you seem like a good guy. I hope this sub continues to welcome these stories as well, they are a nice change from the usual content.

Welcome, Brother.

[–]zenkibudo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

but I can't believe something like this gets censored from Reddit

getting more and more common. especially in the subs he mentioned. There are still plenty of cool (freedom of speech, can handle truth, etc) subs like this one -- but I wouldn't call any of them mainstream, nor part of the auto-subbed batch when u launch a new user profile/account.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Your story wasn't too bad all things considered until you got to your fuck ups.

If anyone takes anything away from this story it should be that when a woman involves the courts and/or the law in your relationship then you must get a lawyer. When you get a lawyer you must follow their advice.

You basically had about the best hand you could have as a man going into court to get custody for his children. You had physical custody of your child and a mother who abandoned her child. By contacting her and her tricking you into talking about your firearm possession she used that to force the liberal left wing family courts to award her custody. Had you followed the advice they would have had to wait until court to ask you that and your lawyer could have mitigated the problem for the court by talking about the safety measures such as keeping them in a gun safe and the like.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have a fire arm in my house and shared custody. Whats the problem? It's the second amendment

[–]kronaz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is like saying a Jew fucked up by getting on the train. You're not the Nazi here, you got railroaded (not to overuse the reference). You ultimately lost your son because the system was stacked against you from the beginning. I hope your fight isn't over, and I hope you can appeal and get a different judge (conflict of interest? I know the system doesn't give a shit, but maybe your lawyer can figure something out?)

[–]slimcoat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So this was originally posted to TIFU. It was left up for approximately 14 hours, made the reddit front page then was deleted by TIFU mods. They provided no reason. Tried to re-post at relationships and they deleted it instantly. No reason provided. Apparently, the fact that my story resonated with so many people is threatening in some way. Threatening to whom, I'll leave you to decide.

And they continue to wonder why so many men end up here. We literally have nowhere else to go.

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Life can really fucking hurt. I feel you brother. I have a daughter who was taken at ~3 yrs by her mother. She's now 18 and I haven't seen her yet. Yes, I have searched for decades for both of them. Now that she's 18, she will turn up online or a PD can find her. I hope to have contact this year. Best of luck to you. Do the best you can. Life isn't fair.

[–]2legion327[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Jesus. That's brutal. Good luck to you in finding her. I hope she's receptive to reconnecting if you do.

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[–]Zchavago 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I was reading this thinking that a Korean woman did this??!! No way! Then I realized, that it was an American girl, white most likely, and that explained it.

[–]2legion327[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

HA! Yeah a buddy of mine married a Korean national while we were there and they've had nothing but blissful marriage. She's extremely loyal to him.

[–]1egoisenemy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wish you the best of luck.

[–]gghavoc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We all know what a crock marriage is, but they should make the minimum age 25 if not more. At 20 years old, most people are just barely learning to be on their own, and just left high school two years prior. You don't have the life experience to see all the potential disasters if you choose a life long commitment with someone you probably don't know very well. I agree this story is a prime example of how everything can go to shit so quickly once she decides you're not good enough. You will not have a good outcome by letting your future be decided by such a fragile/emotional ball of crazy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For what it's worth, I feel for you mate.

[–]TheRedThrill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy crap, I happened to read TIFU today and came across your post. I meant to cross post it here, as it was a prime example of AWALT. Seems it ended up being posted here anyways. Assuming your not leaving any information out of the story (AWALT / APALT) I wish you the best to use this experience to fuel your new life. Don't give up.

[–]the_nsa_hates_you 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey OP. Sorry to hear about your situation. Also bummed to hear about the other subs deleting your posts. The good news is you're still young.

[–]Gunnar0286 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is way to similar to my story. I've spent my life savings trying to get my son back, to no avail. Fuck man.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She shown no empathy with you whatsoever. I can't blame some of the anger phase guys for the way they are when their are women like this. Never get married again. I'll say this time and time again: AWALT.

[–]RealMcGonzo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, has the army changed. Back in the day, cheating with the wife of a soldier on active duty was grounds for immediate dishonorable. And that doesn't count what your squad should have done to the SOB. In the 90s, a friend of mine in the Air Force had a vicious dog - a chow. Meanest damn dog I ever met. His wife gets knocked up so he has the dog put to sleep. The base commander hears about it and calls him in to make sure the "right thing" was done.

Our military was better with honor.

[–]Ultimate_Failure 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This sounds crazy, I know. However, we're talking about a southern bible belt judge who was golf buddies with my ex-father-in-law

This seems like a clear conflict of interest, certainly grounds to change judges, if your lawyer is worth a shit.

[–]TekkomanKingz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And people somehow believe America isn't fucked. Look at how our soldiers are treated.

[–]abhigeek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Let's upvote this to front page/

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My brother's ex got custody despite her taking off with another guy. When she came back months later for custody, she got their daughter, despite her drug issues and hopping from guy to guy. Reason the judge gave, the money she would get from him for child support would be a source of income for the ex.

Gotta love the Nanny State.

[–]MGHOW_ATL 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing your story. I hope this helps some of the younger guys, especially in the service. There are entirely too many stories like this anyway, and it seems that military marriages are especially prone to this sort of nightmare scenario.

Yeah, you fucked up some procedural shit in the bureaucracy and legal bullshit and learned your lessons. But you appear to have come through the fire as well as can be expected.

In the end, all this tragedy and energy wasted on what -- some gash that was never going to be with you for real.

I hope your new marriage works out, but if it doesn't, spend all the money on the best shark lawyer you can get and listen to him. Yes, him -- no female lawyer. You'll lose it all anyway, so may as well get the best.

[–]Umbrifer 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Hey man. I read your story on TIFU and immediately thought that this man needs TRP. Hearing that this is 9 years ago and that you've managed to find happiness on that front and rebuild yourself is very encouraging. Do you have any advice for a young red-piller who wants to get married (for the first decade of the childs' life, after that re-evaluate) and implementing TRP in marriage? Again very glad to year that you recovered from the mistakes of your youth.

[–]Malgurath 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What's your current relationship with your son?

[–]2legion327[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's excellent. See him every other weekend and all summer. We go camping, do home improvement projects together, play video games, etc. I try to teach him something new each time I see him, which I feel is an important part of parenting. He's growing into a hell of a young man. I rarely have to discipline him at all in fact. He's just an overall damn good kid.

[–]Horus_Krishna_2 1 point2 points  (2 children)

"So this was originally posted to TIFU. It was left up for approximately 14 hours, made the reddit front page then was deleted by TIFU mods. They provided no reason.

Tried to re-post at relationships and they deleted it instantly. No reason provided. "

this makes me very intrigued and, if what you say is true, means all need to read this

[–]2legion327[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You can find the original at redd dot it/4isjqn or just check my history.

[–]TheLolomancer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I doubt I'm the only one who wanted to read this purely because of the fact that it was deleted.

Good on you for learning your lesson for your new marriage. So many people have this shit happen to them and still don't learn from it.

[–]Elementary1251 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is what should get stickied instead of BS posts about "Border Erosion"

[–]banica24 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Could you elaborate a bit more what happened after the trial? Did you finish getting your degree, how did you recoup from everything? How did the entire experience change your perception on women and life in general?

[–]2legion327[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I got an Associate's in IT and went on to get a job with an international law firm. I've since moved up the ladder there within their IT department and am quite happy with my success so far. Bought a house and settled down. Son has his own room along with a big playroom/den area as well. He's well taken care of.

I spent a few years pretty bitter afterward as you might imagine. Eventually leveled myself out and started making life decisions based on my intellect rather than emotions. Haven't look back since and it has served me well.

Regarding women after that, I can tell you I'm quite happily re-married now but this is my 3rd one. My 2nd one was a whole other marriage in between that was a giant clusterfuck as well because I hadn't learned my lesson yet at that point. I might do a Part 2 on that 2nd marriage story eventually.

[–]Betamax69 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Holy shit! I'm on wife 3 now also. Reading your story and the parallels is so strange. Me: desert storm army vet. First wife at 19 cheated and got pregnant while I was deployed. Wife 2 was a 300 lb single mom who cheated on me too. Got married to wife 3 and been married 8 years now. I found TRP at age 45. 2 years ago. Wow

[–]VEKTOR-NINETYNINE 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I feel for you dude. Hypothetically what would you recommend to people who couldn't afford a lawyer? I'm asking because a good friend of mine is kind of committing your fuckup number one with his wife. They had a baby, she got sick of the marriage and started fucking other dudes.

I told him to cease communication with her and lawyer up but he won't because:

1) He feels like his child needs to grow up with a mother and a father

2) He doesn't make a lot of money and he's afraid he can't even afford to talk to a lawyer

Anyway, thanks for sharing

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Her dad raped her" is keyword there. Almost every girl have daddy issue and this rape turned out to be her ultimate sex quest - she is looking for Ultra-Daddy Rapist now.

She is deeply damaged psychologically, you pick beta bucks role there. Great husband, caregiver. No tingles there.

Again, this is deeply disturbed and damaged person. She could be blamed for her behaviour, of course, but you too - you choose to have a kid with mentally sick person.

Sorry for your loss, try to fix all the problem to the degree which you can afford (get a new career, retake at least partly kid custody). Stop pitying yourself. Next time - you definetly would be smarter.

Hope you'll be ok. This is sad news but great life lesson.

[–]georgeisbusting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing. I'm sorry to hear what happened to you. You sound like an intelligent person with a great sense of morals and responsibility. I don't know why these mods censor the way they do. Your story is an important one and only helps to guide those in similar or heading to similar circumstances. Thanks again, and stay strong.

[–]0FO6 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Thank you. This gives me a lot of anxiety actually lately actually. I am divorced, I got the kids a few months after she left. We live in different states, I have had them pretty much the entire time for 2 years now (she does call them on a fair regular basis). She supposedly will be picking them up for about a month this summer. My anxiety is that I will have difficulties getting them back from her this time or even next time. Especially knowing that the spousal support will end early next year.

[–]2legion327[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You need legal advice on this one based on your individual state laws and the state laws of her state. Don't give her those kids without being 100% informed and fully confident. "Pretty much the entire 2 years" is likely NOT enough in the court's eyes to establish the residency of the children but check with a lawyer. You can likely get your answer during a free consultation. If you're even slightly in doubt, don't give them up unless you are compelled to by the custody agreement. If you're not court-ordered to, don't do it. But again... please... check with a lawyer. Individual state laws weigh into this VERY heavily.

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