Blue Pill ExampleWoman refuses to date guy during college because he's 'not her type'. Messages him years later when she finds out he has a great job. Gets told she's not a gold digger. (self.TheRedPill)

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Indian guy in college thinks girl is attractive but she doesn't date Indian guys. When he's 27, she messages him out of the blue and he's ecstatic to reconnect.

Later the woman's sister tells him she only messaged him because she heard he had a 'great job'.

I expected the comments to be somewhat balanced. Instead we get bullshit like this:

The fact it's working out should be reason to pat yourself on the back. It also sounds a little like her sister is jealous and wouldn't mind a shot. tl;dr; nothing to see here, move on.

She wouldn't give you the time of day in college but who cares.

She saw someone who checked certain boxes for her to consider a long term relationship, initiated contact and you guys hit it off. I wish a girl approached me like that to be honest...

Your GF probably dated a certain type BECAUSE it would never work, not in spite of it.

She banged all those guys in college but not YOU because YOU were marriage material and they weren't. Wut?

Except OP said that the guys she dated probably wouldn't have settled down

You aren't wrong I know that a lot of the guys she dated either didn't want to settle down or were artsy types

More comments completely telling him to stay with the gf.

She's 27 and dated freely before she met you. Now you've been together for 6 months. You can either view this as "settling" or you can view it as you winning out in the end; as her coming to the understanding that you're truly better than the rest. People who've "settled" are usually less-than-satisfied with their relationship, but stay together because they don't think they can do better.


Maybe, after ten years of dating unambitious guys, she decided she'd had enough of that whole scene. Maybe she never thought she wanted to settle down before. Maybe she's seeing how things go with the guy who's great on paper (good job, "polished," similar background, approved of by her family).

You get that guys? Your future wife sleep will around with random dudes in College without giving you the time of day but you'll eventually get her in the end when she's ready to settle down!

Lesson: Don't settle for someone that wouldn't have given you the time of day a few years back. They probably have ulterior motives.

[–]Endorsed ContributorStories_of_Red 551 points552 points  (105 children)

So you spend a decade bettering yourself, and putting in the hard and lonely hours to make a career. Meanwhile, she is sexing Chad the bouncer. For. a. decade. Think about that.

But after that decade, she is the prize he is winning with his hard work? Chad got the younger, hotter, wilder version, and he gets the middle-aged version. The one where she now "appreciates" a "guy like him."

Where in the hell do people get this stuff? smh

If she is not there for your struggles, gentlemen, do NOT share your success with her. If she was not around when you were an awkward, broke, ambitious 19 year old, do NOT think she deserves your trust as a properly-developed man in full.

[–][deleted] 159 points160 points  (16 children)

This really is what keeps us from a full beta revolt. They think they've won when the girl finally "wakes up and realizes what she's been missing out on".

[–]recon_johnny 122 points123 points  (1 child)

Because that's EXACTLY the fucking line they've been fed.

[–]1jb_trp 20 points21 points  (0 children)

They just have to believe it long enough for the alimony/child support to kick in. Then the special snowflake that they've "won" will realize at the age of 32 that they're "not happy" and that they need to "find themselves."

You know, all that Eat. Pray. Love. bullshit.

[–]BoyWhoreWithASword 54 points55 points  (3 children)

I remember my blue pill days when I finally "won" the girl who had dumped me to hook up with a bunch of other guys and finally came around to choose me. Even then I could feel a glitch in the matrix when one of my guy buddies told me "at least you finally got her back"...

Thank fucking god I woke up to this bullshit. My ex-girlfriend did me a true service by running me through the mud and awakening me to female bullshit. I should send her a thank you letter because even before I found the red pill I realized something was wrong.

[–]joh2141 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Man I remember saying some shit like that to a friend but I knew deep down it was bullshit. I merely said it to make him feel better/not to think about all the slutty shit she probably did. They're married now apparently but man that bitch got around. Just what are you supposed to tell your friends when they know she's a slut but is like "Nah but she chose me and she's with me!" Obviously I have no proof if she changed or not but all human beings are habitual. Once you do something; it becomes easier to commit that act again. A woman who has led a slutty life, no matter how pure her intentions were at first, is still just that of a slut. She can't go back to being a prim and proper or good behaved woman again. That behavior and habit is imprinted in her for the rest of her life.

If you rape or kill someone, you can't change what you've done in the past. The same is true for all the people you've slept with and the experiences you've had. If you've been a party girl all your life and go to being a settled mom beckoning to ungrateful little shit.... that's not even settling. That's a time bomb.

[–]omega_fat 10 points11 points  (1 child)

You are supposed to tell your friend he's a fucking moron and heading for the world of pain, cuckoldry and not getting sex from his own fucking wife. If you say feel good stuff you are worse than an enemy.

[–]joh2141 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We told him that when they started going out. You can't save people from themselves especially if they want to be delusional and say shit like "Oh she's marrying me so she chose me over her bad life. She will end her bad habits." He's a grown man who knew all the facts. None of us have time to babysit his bad choices. By the end, they were getting married no matter what so you either showed support or just didn't show up.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (4 children)

beta revolt

there's no such thing. they're not getting pussy in the first place, what are they gonna say? "thats it, im not fucking girls anymore!!"

even if half the betas out there stopped showering girls with nonstop attention, the rest would pick up the slack thinking they were getting closer to fucking

its the way things have always been and will always be

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

They're not going to blame/revolt against the women. Part of being a beta is being incapable of seeing women as anything but perfect. Hence things like Chad "stole" their girlfriend.

I'm just saying that it's a recipe for disaster when you have a lot of young men who are angry, directionless and don't think they're ever going to get laid.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm just saying that it's a recipe for disaster when you have a lot of young men who are angry, directionless and don't think they're ever going to get laid.

yeah true but i dont think it's a "revolt" type disaster, just a feminist dream, failure of society type of disaster... pretty much like what today is

[–]MGHOW_ATL 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This beta did that very thing. Poor or no results from efforts with women SHOULD make a smart beta do a cost-benefit analysis. In my case, once I got a girl interested, things were pretty good until the end. It just takes so damn much fucking effort to get them to look at me that way in the first place, so one day I just said fuck it, not getting laid anyway, no point in trying anymore.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

once you get beyond the work of improving yourself, its funny because it actually takes almost no work. you just do what you do and they want to be included. you go from someone asking them if you can hang out with them, to them begging you.

improving yourself to that point is a long journey, its taken me years to get where i really want, but the benefit is in the end you didnt "just" do things to attract chicks (like trying to be a PUA expert). you actually just bettered yourself so much that they all recognize and want to be with you any time they can, and throw themselves at you

quitting out is definitely a path to pick, but the other path is far more rewarding both in how it betters you and how it completely changes the dynamics between male/female interactions for you

[–]netgrey 9 points9 points [recovered]

The true red pill is that 10 betas rising up will always take out the alphas. They just don't realize the power they have.

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 23 points24 points  (1 child)

I know that sounds like a sound theory but it really isn't so. One of the main defining characteristics of a beta is that he is mentally pliable. He believes what he is told. He does what he is told. He believes that the reward for his suffering is going to be worth it. Whether it's religion, women, patriotism or anything else. He believes the line about nobility and honor and is shamed into doing what everyone else tells him to do.

Betas will never rise up because they believe it to be immoral and without honor to not suffer in silence.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mentally pliable, that's a great way to describe it.

[–]darkrood 10 points11 points  (0 children)

True, too bad Bp tend to destroy either by women or themselves. Ever see bunch of low SMV guys fighting that plain Jane like Game of Thrones? Saddest thing I've ever witnessed.

Oh, there was a guy once show off his hambeast to me like Princess Leia. That was funny, too.

[–]MoneyStatusLooks 40 points40 points [recovered]

So you spend a decade bettering yourself, and putting in the hard and lonely hours to make a career. Meanwhile, she is sexing Chad the bouncer. For. a. decade. Think about that.

This is what I was thinking a few years ago. I'm 28 now, spent the best part of my early 20's forgoing partying and college to build a million dollar business, then when you have the expensive car and high class lifestyle, all these "friend" bitches from school start coming out the woodwork, who are used up whores, looking to grab some BB and resources.

No thanks, ill pass. I won't date anyone my own age 28. My cap is 23 now, I prefer younger though.

Could of had me when I was younger, now I'm better than you and don't want you.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsqerl 39 points40 points  (13 children)

Meanwhile, she is sexing Chad the bouncer. For. a. decade. Think about that.

Chad the bouncer, Chad the bartender, Chad the gym rat, Chad the player, Chad the married guy cheating on his wife, Chad the guy with game, Chad the one night stand, Chad the why the fuck not, Chad the rebound, Chad the available guy while I was drunk, Chad the vacation hook up, Chad the unambitious, Chad the abuser, Chad anyone other than you. For. A. Decade. (While on birth control too....) Then she finds you, the guy she would never have dated while she was busy fucking her way around the world. Now, there's no more birth control, sex is only for relationships, star fish sex, and don't mate guard you shitlord. ^ This isn't a fucking prize. This is shit.

Could of had me when I was younger, now I'm better than you and don't want you.

Ex-gf told me straight out - I never would have dated you when you were younger.... great, thanks honey... here's a good dicking and despite your best efforts, you didn't lock me down by getting pregnant (although you tried your best) or through your guilt trips. Enjoy your memories.

[–]verify_account 16 points17 points  (7 children)

Ex-gf told me straight out - I never would have dated you when you were younger

It's scary how honest women can be sometimes when they think you don't care. I had a girl tell me once that she was with me because "she couldn't do any better". Post RP it didn't bother me, but man when they go unfiltered the truths are cold.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (5 children)

Makes sense. A lot of us here weren't really dating material when we were younger. I certainly fucking wasn't (and wasn't fucking at the time either)

[–]Fryguy48 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I was indoctrinated so hard it hurts to reflect on it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You know, I was perceptive enough to not really believe the bullshit. I lacked social skills to understand what was really going on. I was mostly really confused by people in general until my mid 20s

[–]God_Mode_Challenge 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But how good does it feel to be awake and free? I wouldn't have it any other way. It's like I've seen behind the curtain, and now woman are just a game. A very fun game. That being said its only fun because I spent the last two years recreating myself to improve my SMV.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Chad the average marriage-minded man with a stable job and family life... Wait a sec. Nevermind.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsqerl 7 points8 points  (0 children)

LOL.... Twin brother of Chad anyone other than you.

But this is what so many men were told: Live a good life, have a stable job, be a nice guy, and you'll make a great husband. All of that is spot on advice.

What they neglected to teach you (or you didnt read the fine print), was that Western women will fuck everyone but you. They didnt mention waiting until women hit the wall so you can raise Chad's kid and having that perfect life. They conveniently left out many details. Had you known them ahead of time.... yea.

[–]not_slater_yet 7 points7 points [recovered]

Chad with a shit ton of tattoos and herpese. Chad with the BMW. Chad on the 'roids. Chad wearing the 'nice outfit.' Chad on the motorcycle. Chad from the gym. Chad the waiter. Chad the used car salesman. Chad the random guy at the bar over 6' and a strong jawline....

[–]Canadaismyhat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you guys want to be alpha you should start by containing your bitterness, jesus.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain 18 points19 points  (16 children)

Similarly I focused on achievement and wound up with a lucrative career. I have a large house on plenty of land that used to be a dairy farm and paid cash for it. What amazed me was that when word of it got around girls that ignored me in High School, or girls that I went out with a couple of times in college started popping up acting like we were great friends the whole time. The absolute transparency of the attempts --- no game or subtlety at all -- was really galling.

[–]MoneyStatusLooks 18 points18 points [recovered]

Not so subtle about it either. Got my top of the line new Cayman GTS, said I paid in cash on facebook and the PM's flooded in within hours after posting pictures. Human nature can be fucking gross.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRunawayGrain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I prefer vintage American muscle myself, but it is a nice ride. Good on you.

[–]IdeaSnob 2 points3 points  (8 children)

Congrats. How old are you and what is your yearly income?

[–]MoneyStatusLooks 4 points4 points [recovered]

28, $500k before taxes. I don't know how much after, would have to ask my accountant.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

That's impressive. If I may ask, what do you do for a living?

[–]Redpillc0re 1 point2 points  (0 children)

$500k before taxes. I don't know how much aft

Here's the RP bitches going after their sugar dadd.. err.. bro for advice.

(joking. don't take this as an insult).

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What industry is your company involved in?

[–]GBP4tendies 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Damn, what do you do? I'm 26, worked my ass off to get my degree in mechanical engineering, and make a measly 57K/yr. And I hate my job, to boot. I'm quiting my job next month and traveling Europe for a couple months. No job lined up after. I hate my job that much.

[–]IdeaSnob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whats your field or do you own a business?

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Could of had me when I was younger, now I'm better than you and don't want you.

Justice like this is so satisfying. It feels so shitty to be rejected and ignored when you're younger, but as you get older and keep working to rise in smv these bitches are in for a shock when they learn just how fast they're used up.

I gave women chances and gave them my time and energy, and as soon as they saw someone slightly better/older/more fit than me it ended so fast. They have no spine, no trust, no loyalty. Impatient and short sighted.

They start off more mature, then you blow them out of the water and keep maturing your whole life. You learn that the power they had over you was meager compared to the lifelong power you have access to.

[–]MoneyStatusLooks 11 points11 points [recovered]

Definitely. Literally there is not a single girl in my high school year that I would LTR now if I had the chance. I am only 28, but they are all starting to loose their looks and what is available 6-7 years younger just looks so much better.

At the age 28, after lifting for years, building a successful business, I realise I have done things right.

The harder you work on yourself when you are younger, the sooner you get high enough SMV. I can literally have my pick of 7-9's of 18-23-year-olds. The 28 year older former 9's and 10's are fading fast, I would rather the younger pussy. They are less bitter and jaded, carrying less emotional baggage etc.

To put it simply, men who work on themselves are appreciating assets. Women SMV burns fast and quickly and depreciates from their early 20's. Too few of them know this.

They start off more mature, then you blow them out of the water and keep maturing your whole life. You learn that the power they had over you was meager compared to the lifelong power you have access.

Female SMV is capped by beauty and age. Male SMV has no limits, within reason. Take trump, dude is old, ugly and he's been through hundreds of models most likely.

[–]RedditAdminsSuck_88 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, I am your age, high school reunion coming up, I know that there will be the following:

A. Post Wall Women

B. Thirsty betas

I guarantee you the thirsty betas will be looking forward to this reunion to try and kindle fires with these post wall women. Knock yourselves out... go ahead and try to get with these post wall women who are a shell of what they were when we graduated 10 years ago. Myself, I will be on full guard knowing the betabux seeking sharks will be on the prowl. I am going to reunite with my guy friends, could care less about the women there.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm 25. At the beginning of the year my 21 year old girlfriend bailed on me for a 28 year old Marine. It just amazes me that they are so short sighted. She skipped me after 2 years of dating for someone who was 3 years older than me but only 1 solid year of smv work ahead. He actually was behind me in a lot of ways and not as smart, but he was technically more fit.

The algorithm that runs female attraction is flawed for the 21st century. It's too short sighted. Life was too turbulent and the need to instantly bond to the most alpha male was too important (in comparison to modern society). Maybe things will all go to shit again eventually and they'll need alphas to survive the world, to hunt for them and to kill other alphas and betas. Who knows, but right now they just seem retarded to let the young doctor in training who will start lifting as soon as he's done with school, for the burger flipper with nice abs who just stopped lifting but still looks good for now and has early male pattern baldness in the family.

If you look at the projection it's easy to tell who is the wrong choice in modern society. Oh well. All least we're afforded a small sense of justice and a path to improvement.

Edit: shitty autocorrect

[–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (2 children)

But after that decade, she is the prize he is winning with his hard work? Chad got the younger, hotter, wilder version, and he gets the middle-aged version. The one where she now "appreciates" a "guy like him."

I love responses like these; they keep me sharp. I like taking time to reflect on how I used to believe that narrative 3 or 4 years ago.

I read that now and it strikes me as so ridiculously absurd that I forget this is the norm for upwards of 70% of men.

[–]hamsterbator 9 points10 points  (0 children)

what is sad is when you click on the profile pics of these recently married wall slammers. You look back to the girl from 10 years ago who is light years hotter while she was out banging Chad. And compare her to the "prize" version that your buddy gets after she decides she wants to settle down...

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Saving the best. Out of al Rollos articles, that one should have it's own spot on the sidebar

[–]Thenextprince 93 points93 points [recovered]

Women don't deserve your trust ever.

[–]cassandrita[S] 79 points80 points  (2 children)

and he gets the middle-aged version

Poor OP doesn't even have a good comparison of what a real relationship looks like (he said so in his post). So when this woman refuses to have sex more than once a week and refuses to do 'wild things' in bed, he'll assume this is just how most women are.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

i mean, why do you think he's even in this position in the first place? If he had ample experience he woudln't be getting played for a fool and having to ask 14 year olds on that subfoum for advice

[–]1mojo_juju 4 points5 points  (1 child)

lol. i know some dude on TRP told you to knock if off with the one-liners

but goddamn if i dont love 'em

straight up dude... i don't trust my mom or sisters -- the women I know best and who are "closest" to me. glad i grew up with them, since they taught me so much about womens tendencies and manipulation tactics.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (5 children)

If she was not around when you were an awkward, broke, ambitious 19 year old

If you've made something of yourself, you can do better than someone who would settle and stay with an awkward, poor loser.

Women don't stay with someone like that because they "believe in you", they either have a savior complex and get their validation off trying to 'save' you, are lazy as fuk themselves, or don't think they can do any better.

If you've finally become someone that attracts women, then go out and fuck girls like the one in the OP in her younger years because you can.

But don't trust them, whether they were there from day 1 or just the new hottest girl that's obsessed with you. They're always working their own agenda and pussy makes people blind to that. How many now divorced guys will tell you that when they married her, they thought she could do no wrong and they trusted her more than anyone? (spoiler: all of them)

[–]Endorsed Contributorsqerl 15 points16 points  (2 children)

pussy makes people blind.

IMO this is the biggest male hamster. Otherwise reasonable men are blinded by their desire for pussy. This is why TRP, SMV, and the wealth of information on TRP is so valuable. The male hamster is a one eyed beast that will make excuses for everything. TRP overwhelms the impulse until you're a rational thinking male. Some guys have this shit together naturally (alpha), guys that were programmed to ignore it (beta) need more help.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

yup. once you think you've found something "special"/the one/etc, and that you won't be able to find it again, you fall into the beta trap

modern media tries to reinforce it as much as possible with shit like "the one" but also "i'm really the lucky one that she said yes"

[–]chance01 2 points3 points  (0 children)

and sickening lines like "I outkicked my coverage", "she's out of my league", all blue pill beta tropes media reinforced ad nauseum.

[–]BoyWhoreWithASword 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Women don't stay with someone like that because they "believe in you", they either have a savior complex and get their validation off trying to 'save' you, are lazy as fuk themselves, or don't think they can do any better.

Not necessarily.

Sometimes they do "believe in you". As in they calculate your future potential and decide to invest in you early on so they can reap the benefits later. It's definitely not as flowery and rosy as the blue pill idea that she "likes you for you" but in a way it can be an instance where she "believes in you".

More accurately she believes you will achieve your much higher potential in the near future and that it's more beneficial to stay with you than jump ship. This is because she believes the best man she can get NOW is not going to be anywhere near what you will be in a year or two.

An example of this is college women who stay with and support lower level athletes (college/semi-pros) because they believe that in a couple years he'll be a pro making a hundred million a year. Or the girl who supports an up and coming business owner because she thinks the business will blow up in a couple years.

That being said, never fucking get married. Never cohabitate.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

that's true, but i think more so if the payday is bigger and coming soon

When i was in medical school quite a few of the long term relationships/marriages fell apart because "he didnt have enough time for me"

from what ive seen most women want instant gratification whereas men will accept sacrifices in the short term for a better long term outlook (this can be seen in spending habits as well where women will buy lots of stupid little shit daily whereas guys will try to save more and buy fewer but bigger ticket items)

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (0 children)


What is this?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

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[–]SouthernFit 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The key is to be Chad with a lot of money. Don't spend that money on women.

[–]withchemicals 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Quick question: I grew up poor and from a crappy family growing up. I had to work my ass through college and graduated with no debt. Now, I'm about to enter medical school and will have a secure future.

There's only one girl that I think was the most tolerant of my situation and was there while I was struggling, but things didn't work out because I wanted to fuck around (news flash: you don't need to be successful or rich to fuck around with multiple women).

For someone like me who doesn't have a girl who was there during my hard times anymore, who do I share my success with? I always think about this because even now I already feel the effects of being semi-successful. I have my shit together and every other guy around me is fucking up and in debt, and woman seem to notice. Still, I always think if it's just because I have my shit together and since woman my age are in their mid-20s now.

[–]NaughtyFred 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've read this sentiment many times on this sub but you've expressed the best.

[–]Mithra9009 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I don't think that's a good enough argument. Even if it's the case that she gives sex away cheaply to guys who are uninterested in commitment in her youth when she's at her sexiest only to then charge commitment-minded guys for it despite its depreciated value, the alleged fact is that she was uninterested in commitment back then but (supposedly) is interested in it now. The fact is (allegedly) that you couldn't build a long-term relationship with her past self anyway because she was uninterested in commitment back then. It's only possible now as she's interested now and so, her past is irrelevant.

It's not that she's the prize but rather, the (supposed prospect of a) meaningful relationship is. With this in mind, why wouldn't a Beta consider a woman who didn't consider him when he wasn't successful? Other than the paranoia of being golddug, why not?

[–]IdeaSnob 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Exactly. There is a lot of projection and hurt feelings in this thread but the reality is most guys here couldn't have gotten the girl when she was at her peak. Now that they are at their peak, and hopefully more alpha, the girl wants them. Instead of being upset at her, you should be proud of yourself for making a transition. Your value went up.

[–]soundsshemade 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I agree that men, in their late teens & 20s, who couldn't land a peak SMV girl shouldn't complain. That's the SMV working as it should. And you're correctly pointing out that they're trying to assuage hurt feelings. The post should end with a comment that once a male reaches his peak SMV he should then access the peak SMV women who he rightly didn't have access to earlier.

The point of a post like this is that you shouldn't end up with that girl just because you're both closing in on 30. Those peak SMV girls should bag good older men when they can, and then men similar to the guy mentioned in the OP should get with girls CURRENTLY at their peak. No one is hurt in that scenario.

This is just a commentary on the audaciousness of someone who thinks they can push off maturity and responsibility for instant gratification and still have it all in the end. That's just not an attitude that we as RP men respect. As well as anger at the underlying narrative in society that these women have every reason to rightfully act this way. That she's done nothing wrong and in fact was being prudent by testing out all her choices, and not wasting her youth on one man. At the very least we feel this is a space to find fault with the mindset that would allow one to rationalize such a mentality.

[–]oleanderteabreak 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Would you have married her at 19? Would you have stayed satisfied for life?

Does anyone really give a shit about this stuff anymore?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

y'know, that is one thing that makes me really appreciate my wife.

we met when she was 20. I was 21, and a poor-ass grad student. She was thrilled to hang with me. She saw the ambition and had plenty herself. We both make great money now.

Sometimes I think this place is far too unwilling to consider the corollary to your post, which is "If she was around when you were an awkward, broke, ambitious 19 year old, she deserves your trust as a properly-developed man."

[–]RandomSurf1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Unless she makes more or atleast as much as you never marry.

[–]garlicextract 70 points71 points  (3 children)

The top comment is telling him he did good and shouldn't worry. At this time, that comment has OVER THREE times the upvotes as the topic itself.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Because dude, it's the right answer! Pat yourself on the back when the used-up chick with the expired cock carousel wristband wants to date you!!

But that OP is obviously a clueless beta for a few reasons - first when you know she was slutting it up in college, and now you're making bank, why the fuck would you want to date a girl the same age as you, even if you didn't know she was getting railed by the football team every thirsty thursday.

secondly, it was a "blow to him" that she messaged him. In the mind of a beta, she had been thinking about him recently and remembering their nice friendship so she shot him a facebook message. Anyone with half a brain would know she messaged him for a certain reason, and then definitely when she is open to a 'relationship'

[–]Il128 56 points56 points [recovered]

Isn't the problem with these women the fact that they ca not pair bond at this point?

Wouldn't a guy have some small clue that she's just temporarily burned out on getting plated and pumped and dumped?

Hasn't every man whose ever breathed been told, don't marry a slut?

She's going to have zero sexual attraction for him. Even if she tries to be "that good woman she knows she can be" she's going to give it up after a few months of shitty sex. She's human after all and a woman so there's only one possible out come.

[–]RationalistFaith1 22 points22 points [recovered]

After 1-2 partners they are used up, depressed, jaded and what not.

No thanks!

A sex doll shows more emotion than these damaged goods.

[–]verify_account 16 points17 points  (4 children)

After 1-2 partners they are used up, depressed, jaded and what not.

1-2 is fine, unless you meant to type 10-12 or are doing a poor job trolling.

[–]harsha_hs 10 points11 points  (4 children)

A sex doll shows more emotion than these damaged goods.

ya, been there with damaged goods and can confirm this

[–]_eskimo_brothers_ 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I was half expecting you to say, "Been with a doll too, can confirm this."

But 1-2 isn't going to damage most girls. Not unless she's been alpha widowed hardcore by one of them.

[–]harsha_hs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The one I went with was damaged by only 1 alpha. That was significant for her. I could see her sometimes stalking his Facebook page.

[–]1raceAround126 119 points120 points  (17 children)

This is a story as old as time itself. As Rodger Dodger states, the female will naturally show favour to the male who displays the most utility.

As for myself, I have a couple of bands I play in that are making decent headway in our local scenes; I have a pretty well paid job with a good amount of "power" shall we say, and I've become very popular with the ladies.

I rarely use facebook for anything more than band stuff. But the amount of old "friends" from university and school who out-loud laughed at me when I asked them out adding me on facebook and telling me I was hot and wanted to date is beyond funny.

A few of them I fucked and left the next day. For no other reason than I always fancied a fuck and really thought of them as nothing more. That sent a couple of them at least into proper meltdowns. I remember one even calling me up while she was drunk telling me she was either going to come to me that night or she was going to go fuck a random bloke she'd just met. I replied that I was not in need of her that evening and to have fun. Proper meltdown, giving me this whole "you don't care about me" and "you were so nice in university, what happened to you, don't become one of those guys..."

If nothing else it proved at that moment that I was perfectly happy getting exactly what I wanted from people and declining their attentions if I either wasn't happy with it or wasn't willing to return what they required.

She signed off by actually asking me how much I earned per year! Seriously! It was like she'd just missed out on the winning lottery line because she forgot to buy a ticket. When these girls reach a certain age, boys, they will go fucking crazy.

As for an epilog, I did get several hundred texts telling me how she didn't go home with whomever she'd met (I really didn't care) and that she wanted to talk, which de-escalated to a no strings shag, which then re-escalated to she's going to whore it up among my friends (like I care, I have no friends! But if you're referring to my several circles of mates, then have at it! You have nice tits and they'd love to get some!).

Even her friend contacted me; I just told her (post fucking - yep fucked her too!) that she needed to get a grip and find a nice boring guy to settle down with. That conversation alone I wish I could have recorded and shared. Suffice to say, I was absolutely correct in my actions. Her best friend spilled the beans on not only her biological desperation but also her pretty shit financial situation. I mean, believe it or not, those party years don't pay for themselves even when the drinks are free!

[–]Cristoff13 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Proper meltdown, giving me this whole "you don't care about me" and "you were so nice in university, what happened to you, don't become one of those guys..."

You caused a logical paradox in her brain. You were a beta in university, so she expected you to fall into the Beta Bux role, yet here you are acting like an alpha. In the female mind it shouldn't be possible for a beta to transform into an alpha. Does not compute!

And the way she says "those guys" illustrates the love-hate relationship women have with alpha guys. They love them, yet they hate them at the same time because they can't tame them.

[–]BlackSamKnight 26 points27 points  (4 children)

Good stuff, how about a detailed field report? Would love to hear your stories

[–]1raceAround126 14 points15 points  (2 children)

I'll hold up until in feeling a bit better.

[–]New_CCNA 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Interesting stories. Would love to hear a few.

[–]Duchenne4089 10 points11 points  (2 children)

re-escalated to she's going to whore it up among my friends

Was this supposed to be a strategy to make you commit? Seems counter intuitive.

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 10 points11 points  (0 children)

No. It's a validation seeking manipulation strategy. She wants to elicit a jealousy response in order to seek further control. It's like a fucked up version of a comfort test.

[–]gonorealover 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She signed off by actually asking me how much I earned per year!

They even stopped being subtle and discreet . At this point , how can men even consider marrying these whores ?

They outright ask you how much you make right in front of your face . There is ZERO shame in their behavior.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This comment is gold. Definitely worthy of a separate post.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are my hero of the month.

[–]Alanranks7 24 points25 points  (29 children)

Money talks to women almost as well as chad does. She sees a viable meal ticket whilst she gets closer to the wall and can even get side action. I wish this man good luck in dealing with her hopefully he even finds this place before he "mans up" and slaps a ring on her.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (27 children)

money talks to them more than 'chad' does. If you have real money, you can have a fucking beer gut and pull 10/10s lol

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (26 children)

maybe, but money doesn't command their respect. I have a good looking(natural alpha) friend who works in a high end hotel who is constantly getting offers from trophy wives/girlfriends..(even the escorts hit on him)

[–]ThatRedPillGuy 14 points15 points  (5 children)

I play in a hobby-band with a guy (talented, no doubt) who works the door at a shitty bar. A very, very shitty bar. He works out all day and at night, he looks at IDs for a living. Think about that. He looks at IDs and nods his head yes or no. That's it. He is never seen socially without a sexy young girl on his arm. The whole women are attracted to rich guys thing is a myth.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (3 children)

There is a difference between earnings and wealth. This is what people fail to understand.

Money isn't power, wealth is power. Women respect power.

Be it the power to control the line at a shitty bar, the physical prowess of a swole man or the control of a huge social media company.

Power takes many forms but merely earning money in itself isn't power until it is invested in the physical property which can be flaunted.

HBs don't care how big your wallet or your bank account is they care about the Porsche in your driveway and the pool in your backyard.

Women want to enjoy the show. They don't care how the money is earned or what it takes to get it. They want the expensive houses & flashy cars and will elevate a man based on this just as they elevate a man for his muscle.

Everything in the world is about sex except sex. Sex is about power.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I've literally watched this hot Asian girl I know settle down with a millionaire because "he can provide a life for me" yet somehow people on this sub think that is alpha.....no, alpha is the guy who bangs this chicks with nothing but himself(no money,fancy clothes, cars...etc) if you have both then your golden. I thought the beta myth of money=women was Well understood around here ???

[–]RandomSurf1 1 point2 points  (19 children)

Where are you from?It definitely commands respect.

Education and job are a man's identifier in majority of the countries.

Money represents a social winner.Of course its attractive.

[–]harsha_hs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ya, I too wish him good luck fighting alimony and child support. That really needs lot of cheering

[–]yummyluckycharms 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Relationships sub is home to the cuckolds and betas. Of course, they are telling him to stay.

MBAs, well not as good as they used to due to the sheer number of them nowadays, is still a good signifier of at least ambition if not status. When I graduated and updated my linkedin status, soooo many exes suddenly appeared to congratulate me and want to go for coffee...

[–]BlackSamKnight 20 points21 points  (0 children)

"He wins out at the end" by getting a tired pussy thats ridden a thousand chads. This is BP society trying to keep him from going for a younger higher smv woman now that his value has shot up through the roof thanks to his fancy job. Afterall, Someone has to provide for the wall hitters. Be a good BB and feel honored that this woman chose you after getting sick of random chads, while literallt bringing nothing of value into your life except some vagina stank.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 20 points21 points  (0 children)

It would be one thing if a boy spent 10 years improving himself, and a girl also spent 10 years improving herself, and they met at the top of the mountain, as the best versions of themselves.

But instead, the boy spends 10 years improving himself, while the girl spends 10 years destroying herself, or at best, treading water.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 19 points20 points  (4 children)

GF's sister is the real MVP. He should start turning his attention towards her sister (who is significantly younger as he mentions in the comments). Since they were chatting about school, she's probably in the 18-21 age range.

[–]darkrood 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Meh, the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. She probably is doing the same thing, too. Seriously, hiring whore is better than focusing on either of these two.

[–]_eskimo_brothers_ 11 points12 points  (2 children)

banana never said to marry the sister.

It's Machiavellian and a beta soul would never do this, but disregard older sister. Get with younger sister. It turns them against each other and older sister gets a lesson of what she did to him, only in reverse. Oh and it'll surely destroy the relationship between the sisters.

[–]darkrood 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Please, not trying to bash your idea. It's just not practical because this Indian guy clearly do not possess the caliber to pull that off. I

It would be a field report in RP if he could.

This reminds of the time when my sis' engineering friend try to do the "hit it and quit it" after couple good lays. He end up marrying the bitchy fake Chinese gal whom every guy hates in the group.

Even back in full BP days, I knew those guys were trying to manipulate a girl above their level.

The couple seems happy, though

[–]sarc0lupus 17 points18 points  (4 children)

This is the utterly false garbage fed to academic, un-masculine types all throughout their rejections throughout high school and college "Don't worry, you'll win in the end when she realises how much of a successful, determined, and ambitious person you are. You're the kind of guy a girl wants to marry"

"The good guy wins in the end"


No she just wants your money, and more importantly, your stability. Many of the Chads may have money too, but they're too smart to shack up with a wall-nearing carousel rider.

The women who turned you down during college and high school come back to you in your successful 30s because they know you're safe: you haven't had attention from women before in your life - when she starts chasing you, you're not going to say no to the bartender hottie that was your fantasy in college. They don't love you; they don't find you attractive. They are realists masquerading as romantics.

So she gets a safe relationship, social proof for being in a relationship with "a good, established guy", and a financial safety net. While you suffer with the odd pity sex, from a bitch who let Chad give her anal on the 2nd date.

Don't fall for the trap lads.

Run for the hills when a girl who previously turned you down or branch swung comes crying back to you when you're higher value.

[–]TissueBabies 12 points13 points  (3 children)

You're the kind of guy a girl wants to marry

This makes me so fuckin sick. I wasted so many years because my parents shoved this shit down my throat. "Those jocks look like they're having fun now, but you'll be what women want when they come to their senses." Way to cut my balls off.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

My parents are feeding me this shit too. I try to explain I'm not interested in used up whores and my dad says 'but all girls are like that!' Thanks but no thanks dad.

[–]grewapair 63 points64 points  (7 children)

I grew up next to this girl who was hotter than hot. 11/10. Next door neighbor, she literally never said one word to me. She was always too good for me.

Fast forward, I earn millions she's a divorced, single mom, post wall, flight attendant without a penny to her name. Suddenly friends me on facebook. Like I don't realize.

[–]KartagoPill 65 points66 points  (4 children)

It's true love bro. She loves you haha

[–]Red_Brain 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, I see no motives on this one. Waiter, one ring please!

[–]vagbutters 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's a match made in heaven man! Just like those jewish Hollywood romcom movies have taught me!

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love is just a word that describes their need...for millions of dollars.

[–]mirlalt 23 points24 points  (0 children)

ask when her daughter is legal

[–]IdeaSnob 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It was meant to be! She was thinking about you the whole time but it just didn't work out. Now is your chance to get your dream woman! /s

[–]bisjac 16 points17 points  (4 children)

As a mediocre looking guy. Never was ultra popular during my teens and 20s. Had a few ltr but nothing more exciting. Now 31. Im hearing from a few random girls from hs and college in facebook. And its very clear whats going on. I spent my time working up a decent income and place to live. While they are all single moms without education or a real job.

It's depressing knowing the only girls out there left, are complete messes, who are just trolling for any pathetic guy like me to rescue them. All that dick they had for the last 20 years was just a fun-run before they knew they had to eventually get serious. :(

Signed: A bitter, lonely, untrusting of all woman. - bisjac

[–]verdantsound 6 points7 points  (2 children)

And its very clear whats going on.

Late 20's here. No one really hit me up yet. Do they just want to reconnect, or are their messages usually more suggestive?

[–]bisjac 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It starts with them playing the casual "hey remember school kinda stuff."

I believe the main red flag is if/when they start asking me about my living situation before i have heard enough about thier current life. Like overly eager to hear about my availability. Or arnt all to interested in my job itself as much as my position (to imply pay)

For a quick thrill, i stay vauge on everything and force them to find out in person, rather then throw my back story at them in some fb messages.

[–]verdantsound 1 point2 points  (0 children)

living situation as in whether you are single or not? or whether you own a house? any of them turn out well, or is this another experience that provides evidence for AWALT

[–]MeiFriend 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This is why better yourself, get your status up and find a reasonably younger woman (a virgin if possible).

One of my ex best friends (female) criticized me for dating younger women and not the "mature" and "wanting to settle" ones. She who fucked around and went lesbian and cheated on her fiance and then left him within the first week of marriage, she had something to say about my choices.

For some time I wondered why I wasn't attracted to women my age, it was real, and I figured it wasn't their age, but the fact that most of them ignored me in school and preferred the sporty dudes. Nothing wrong with that, but my pride prohibited me from feeling any interest in them, there are women now that seek me out, younger and pure. Why waste my time with the opposite of that?

[–]allnamesfckintaken 15 points16 points  (1 child)

guys, the situation is so much worse than that. this girl is indian too. he said it in his comments. she's indian and says she doesnt date indian guys. so she's a self hating race traitor and rode the cock carousel for 10 years and now wants to settle with her provider indian man. that is the most disgusting fucking shit i've ever seen.

[–]rmoviesok 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah. I used to work with a smoking hot Indian chick that did exactly this.

[–]vizakenjack 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Argued with some married woman on reddit recently, and she ended up admitting that 9/10 of women are like this.

Of course she wouldn't say that 10/10 of women are like that, cuz she had to leave room for herself, as in "but I'm not like that" to keep herself morally comfortable.

Point is: women know they're sluts, they're just not comfortable admitting it

EDIT: lo and behold, she ended up deleting her own comment in which she admitted the Red Pill truth about women

[–]2Overkillengine 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Well yeah. Admitting it means you see behind the meat curtains and then they have a much harder time of successfully abdicating responsibility.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This woman admits that 9/10 are like that but concludes your finding sluts because that's the only thing your looking for?

[–]vagbutters 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was looking through her history to see the post-- I'm definitely not surprised that she deleted it. Good of you to archive the post. I should start doing this too with the posts that bloopers try to cover up.

[–]ponkyol 11 points12 points  (1 child)

If you ask a woman or a beta for advice, she'll tell you what she'd want you to do if she was the girl in question.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I love how everyone is practically celebrating his beta bucks status. He even admits that the men she was into were 'artist types or didnt want to settle down'. Yeah, there's no way she's just settling on you because of your cash and job security. I kind of get the argument that a woman looking for an LTR doesn't want a bum, but this kind of goes past that in my eyes. He's beta bucks, 2nd option, pure and simple

[–]TRPBackpacker 41 points41 points [recovered]

Yeah, I remember my ex calling me out of the blue after I got a "real" high paying job. This is an ex who dumped me because I wasn't good enough for her.

It went something like the following: "Oh yeah of course you got "real" . At this crappy place, so it's not real. It's imaginary."

"It's all in your head, you are imagining all these scenarios." Then proceed to belittle me with every character fault I have.

Mind you, I was still pretty blue pill back then, but I got angry and just told her to fuck off. I work at this place, call them yourself.

Then several weeks passed and out of the blue she calls me saying she's going to Germany.

As a blue pill back then, I didn't know that me getting a legit good job means that she made a mistake and all these jealousy a her hamster couldn't bear it. All of a sudden, I am not just a poor orbiter when seen with some other woman and instead I am an asshole banging all these women.

I was so blue that I didn't realize that getting a good job can make them so wet. I thought woman wants me for me and rejected me for me. Anyway, just one of those mysteries that I didn't solve until after I read TRP.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (14 children)

Getting a good job doesn't make them wet. It's on the BB side of the hypergamy equation

[–]blackwolfrain 9 points10 points  (11 children)

Depends on how you utilize the situation. Being Beta isn't necessarily a character trait, it's on a spectrum that shifts with every action you take. Every guy is capable of beta actions and alpha actions, an alpha that has a good job just uses the status of having that job to gain their attention and bangs them without even having to spend more than $10 at Starbucks for your own coffee.

[–]vagbutters 1 point2 points  (0 children)

alpha that has a good job just uses the status of having that job to gain their attention and bangs them without even having to spend more than $10 at Starbucks for your own coffee.

This might sound good on paper, but it never works out this way. As /u/jab-jab-cross said, it's a BB side of the hypergamy equation. The way it usually plays out- she refuses to put out for you until marriage OR she lets you in her pants after which she pressures you into a serious relationship (vis a vis possible rape accusations)

[–]Schrodingersdawg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Literally hoping I get that job at google just to be able to do this

[–]tldrtldrtldr 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Similar story. I took a less lucrative but high potential job. A step down from a girl's perspective but good risk/reward for me. She backed off. Left me for dead pretty much. Years later, hit gold. She heard of it. And massive IoIs again. Not going to happen. I didn't know about TRP then and pretty much neglected her based on seeing her in a different light. TRP kinds of enforces this behavior as a trend.

[–]golgynat0r 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fuck her brains out and return the favor :)

[–]aBitClearer 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well gents, it gets WAY WORSE the older a slut gets. About a year ago, I was picking some low lying slut fruit on OKQ. Thin, attractive 40yo blond woman's profile reads like "I'm a whore but I fuck for free", get her number and we talk, or, better put, she talks, and talks and talks, and I let her. All I asked her was what lead her to post on OKQ and she declares that she's been on all the hook-up websites and now wants to "settle down".

Me- "So I'm on of the lucky guys who gets to throw his hat into your commitment ring?"

Her- "Didn't think of it like that but yes."

Me- "Well I just want to be another cock in your carousel, so it won't work out for me."

I hang up. She texts me some prize-winning-potty-poetry, says she's blocking me and reporting me to OKQ. I text her back that Amazon has some great bulk condom deals!

Funny how women would think that revealing that they've been shameless sluts is somehow an attractive feature for men looking for LTRs! I think it comes from "well, men have been sowing their seeds for all of written history and setting down later, so now it's our turn".

No it isn't. All you are a pump-n-dump. Next!

[–]chief66red 50 points50 points [recovered]

My slutty roommate is fucking this indian guy who is a micro biologist who drives a Benz. She tells me straight up that she's banging him cause he make so much money. She doesn't know what TRP is but I speak openly about every single thing on TRP and she agrees with me on it all. I hear this stuff right from the WHOREses mouth.

[–]fasthandssam 101 points102 points  (18 children)

Don't talk about TRP with women. Don't talk about TRP with women. Don't talk about TRP with women.

It does not give you any valuable insights and does not make you seem the least bit more attractive to them. If you are trying to bang this slutty roommate, don't mention anything about TRP or theory to her. If you are not trying to bang, DO NOT MENTION TRP TO HER.

There is no benefit, and plenty of downside. But mostly no benefit. It does not make you seem sexy or charismatic or in on her secret or privy to special knowledge.

To use a matrix analogy: Women don't care and don't want to know about the matrix. They just want to fuck Neo. Explaining to them how you are able to fly and dodge bullets either has no effect or is a major turn-off. ESPECIALLY if you are not flying or dodging bullets. Just be Neo, and demonstrate your trp-inspired abilities. Never explain it. And if you can't just "do it", then talking about it is even worse.

[–]1 Endorsed Contributormordanus 1 point2 points  (7 children)

I personally like talking to women about trp concepts. I don't use the slang and I talk about it in normal conversation. It's funny how fast it opens your eyes. I think that most guys here are still hoping that somewhere out there is a special unicorn waiting for them and hearing women openly admit this stuff destroys the pedestal. If you do talk to them though it has to have zero judgement and no questioning. State the shit as facts and that it's perfectly fine and they will spew some terrible truths

[–]fasthandssam 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Again, there is literally zero upside.

hearing women openly admit this stuff destroys the pedestal

Look at what women do, not what they say! Women are the last source I would listen to in regards to figuring out their true nature, even if they do admit many (or even most) TRP concepts in the right conversational setting.

If your motivation for discussing TRP with women is to "de-pedestalize" them, you can do this much more efficiently and reliably by reading the content here and observing women's actions in life.

And, if we are being completely honest with ourselves, that is rarely the true underlying motivation. Most of the time, men talk about TRP or "game" with women to sneakily raise their value. They think: "I have special knowledge and power; I will impress her with my demonstration of this secret knowledge and show her that I understand her and the game she is playing. This will separate me from the herd and make me more attractive to her."

I'm not saying that is why you are talking to women about it, but that is usually the subconscious reasoning. And of course, discussing what should be demonstrated is a terrible idea.

In either case: NEVER TALK TO WOMEN ABOUT TRP. Zero upside, since anything you'd hope to accomplish can be better accomplished through other means. Plenty of downside.

[–]RandomSurf1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well as long as he doesn't marry her he comes out a winner.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The problem with these scenarios is that by the time us guys are 30, we should be looking at the new batch of 20 year olds, instead of focusing on the 30 year old women due to nostalgia.

[–]GuitarHero07 5 points6 points  (1 child)

The OP didn't say, but I wonder if this girl is Indian? It is interesting that her "mother told her to message him." He also mentioned Indian parents "bragging about their kids having great jobs."

This is all too common among Indian girls. They "don't date Indian guys" when they are in their prime (~16-25) but then once they get closer to 30, they start looking for their BB. Indian parents will start pressuring the hell out of women as they approach 30. Also, many of their friends will start getting settled down. Of course, the parents will encourage their daughters to find an "established" bachelor.

It is then that the Indian girls realize that if they want to continue the same lifestyle that Mom and Dad provided, they need a nice BB. They will declare that "cultural values are important" to them.

[–]albino_red_head 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Lesson: Don't settle for someone that wouldn't have given you the time of day a few years back. They probably have ulterior motives."

I'm not sure that's the lesson. Of course don't settle, but by all means have some fun, just don't commit to marriage.

[–]oorahplays 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My advice to everyone considering this post. Don't get married. Don't settle down with anyone.

[–]allnamesfckintaken 5 points6 points  (0 children)

women should get it through their stupid fucking heads. no one wants a used up whore who rode the cock carousel for years. that's left behind trash. men who have choices should never stoop to that level. it's the most disgusting shit ever when i see women give each other advice to sleep around and get sick of all the alpha males then settle down with a man that respects her and do what she wants.

[–]J_AsapGem 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fuck this dumbass generation HOW ARE MEN SO EMASCULATE? HOLY SHIT.. this is too much to take in.

[–]greatslyfer 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The hamstering is fucking infuriating

[–]RationalistFaith1 5 points5 points [recovered]

No Hymen, no marriage (talking about government free contract of course).

[–]1aguy01 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No hymen no diamond man, come on.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Your GF probably dated a certain type BECAUSE it would never work, not in spite of it.

She fucked alphas because she knew they wouldn't commit and keep her tingling...

word for word from the horses mouth.

[–]Horus_Krishna_2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

not sure but maybe this guy used to be beta . . . but now he makes a lot of money and has a good job, but then again if he was alpha already he wouldn't make that post asking naïve questions. So just a beta with money, and a beta and his money is soon parted.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly if a guy is beta enough to not arrive at this logical conclusion he probably deserves to be cucked.

Women think they can claim 100% of the relationship while giving away 10% of the sex. What kind of guy takes a shitty deal like that.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The worst part is they don't even know they're own AF/BB strategy. That's why all the comments reflect that. That's why any hate towards them is unnecessary. We use this knowledge of their naivety to create our strategy.

[–]techcrium 16 points17 points  (12 children)

Listen, the truth is that majority of women have higher SMV at college than guys at college.

What this translates to is that most of them are rotating the alpha frat guys

If you advocate not settling, then you are in for a big surprise.

What I mean is this: Take any 30 year old man who met a 28 year old woman. Let's pretend that we can turn around time and make them both 20 years old.

Do you think that the 20 year old woman would give this 20 year old guy the time of the day?

Most women wouldn't.

I was fucking still playing Pokémon, trading cards, eating lunch packed by mom, living at home at 20. Would any girl give me the time of the day back then? Most definitely not. For you the hold a 10 year grudge is not worth it.

So going back to the Indian guy...I am sure 99% of women in college probably wouldn't give him the time of the day because he was a skinny, nerdy Indian guy, who was in Engineering and probably playing video games like me. If he uses his rationale, then he is gonna be alone for the rest of his life simply dating any woman is considered settling to him.

[–]cassandrita[S] 40 points41 points  (1 child)

You're assuming that a 28 year old has to 'settle down' with another 28 year old who's slept around. What's stopping him from dating a 20 year old conservative woman?

Do you think that the 20 year old woman would give this 20 year old guy the time of the day?

They'll give the time of day to the right 20 year old. OP didn't say this woman was banging older men. He said she was dating other non-Indian college guys. So yea they were probably frat guys and now she's settling for the guy with a 'good job'.

[–]Beegsi_ 24 points25 points  (1 child)

If she didn't like him before she won't like him after they get married, she'll make him a trained beta buck provider and will probably divorce him once she milks him for every penny. It's better to be alone until the laws change.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

this too. She's not gonna forget what he was like when she wasn't attracted to him. Even if he doesn't want to get a drastically hotter, younger chick, he should still have a shred of self respect and find someone that didn't outright reject him in his youth, when he was working towards this present and future

[–]SelfishStoic 13 points13 points [recovered]

This guy's got it. The perspective is correct. He was not attractive for a decade.

But if he is attractive now, get a younger girl, don't get a middle aged girl who was with Chad.

The problem is he spent a decade investing in beta traits. And by omission of talking about it I assume he cultivated no alpha traits.

So a young girl won't give him the time of day. He's damned if he does or doesn't. He is by definition beta. "Re-Skilling" will take a lot of time. Maybe won't be culturally acceptable but likely better than thinking of the multiple dicks in your wife orifaces. Especially when you got jack experience with girls.

[–]PlusGoody 2 points3 points  (0 children)

TICR. If you've become attractive, use it.

[–]ponkyol 11 points12 points  (1 child)

...which is why you date 20 year olds when you're 30.

[–]gonorealover 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What exactly was the point of your post ?

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[–]cassandrita[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

To be fair this woman is Indian and I think divorce is frowned upon in their culture. But preferences don't change just like that. She was banging a certain 'type' in College for years. She'll keep doing that after she's 'settled down' or at least comparing them to her husband.

[–]Beegsi_ 12 points13 points  (3 children)

India is actually a feminist country and the culture is changing plus Indians seem very beta. Yeah she'll keep comparing him to the 100s of dudes she mated and most likely cheat.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Indian here, our culture is extremely gynocentric.

[–]Beegsi_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree specially after listening to Indian MGTOW https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCme-Jk9rwliVoaBhRvxr_xw/videos

[–]Senior Contributorexit_sandman 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The OP is probably fake, the comments are just something between frustrating and infuriating.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If the kitten did not want me, I do not want the cat! Lol get this man our sidebar

[–]peterson2004 1 point2 points  (2 children)

For anyone bored, here is a guy who loves exposing gold diggers:



He has lots more on his channel

[–]1StoicCrane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is vomit-inducing. Could hardly stand to read it considering the guy in question didn't immediate tell her to fuck off!

[–]battlebeastngg8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The worst thing about it is that these women act as if you don't recognize their manipulation. It really does suck but I wish all men knew this. Don't give them consolation prizes.

[–]anihilistlol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Relevant quote:

"In an interview with GQ earlier this year, Uber chief executive Travis Kalanick referred to his $18 billion company as “Boober” because it gained him “skyrocketing desirability” with women."

Now his Uber is worth more than $60 billion. I'm sure women who didn't give him the time in his day are regretting that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She is just bruteforcing her options. This girl probably break up with somebody. Know she is free. So what to do next? If it is a man he'll probably have anger, a lot of shit for reflection, many-many different things.

But for girls the process is easies - broke up? She'll cry for couple of days then she fuck random stranger at the bar then finally she'll sit and thinking 'Who else I might going to date'. What about this indian guy, he had a crush on me when back in the days. Lets look... Oh, he have a great job know! Might be interesting.

You need to learn from women here. Instead of crying and whining and hating everybody right after break up - get drunk, fuck random whore at the bar and the next sit and bruteforce your option. Pick some new girl. Try to date her. End of the loop.

[–]squidracer 0 points1 point  (3 children)

But what about chad? Doesn't he get the same deal?? I slept around all through my 20s, but guess what? Now used up whores is about all there is left.

Unless you snag one young, they will all be used up

[–]GuitarHero07 0 points1 point  (2 children)

That's why if you are interested in a relationship, you should focus on the younger ones.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hip hop lyrics once again hit the nail on the head.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy shit. If this is real, the woman is delusional beyond comprehension.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

is this even a debate? women get used like a tampon, thrown away then beta guy picks up tampon.. they both deserve one another

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Indian guy should have got an arranged marriage. At least there, he would have an assurance that the woman wasn't slutting it up with white guys.

Moron deserves to be a beta cuck.

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