Red Pill ExampleHow To Fuck Your Girl Rough (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey

I have been having sex with women since I was 14. I have been understanding and being cognizant of what I was doing since I was 22. In My now 14 years of fucking there is one thing and one thing only I am certain of, one thing no one could turn against me or tell me I'm wrong about:

Women love rough sex.

Some love it a little bit and some love it a whole lot, but they all fucking love it: From that sweet girl next door who loves being bitten and scratched down her back to the nasty little freak who loves whips and chains and clamps, rough sex is always on the menu.

This makes sense does it not? Women are naturally submissive and men are naturally dominant, and yet for the past few decades they've drilled it into little boy's head to ask for permission, to not be rough and physical, all the while 50 Shades of Grey turns shitty Mormon authors into overnight gazillionaires. All the while Twilight and the "I leave bruises on your body after I'm done fucking you" vampires turn shitty authors into gazillionaires.

Here's the truth: The line between violence, sex, rape, love, and dominance are often separated by a very thin, very confusing line for those not intimate with them.

Want to know the most common fantasy I've had with women under 30? Rape fantasies. They want me to sneak into their room while they sleep and have my way with them. I've had women ask me to put a knife to their throat while I do it.

(And before the pussy parade comes in here and says "oh you're fucking trashy nasty sluts---ironically being misogynistic themselves---the girls who want rape fantasies the most are the ones Feminists hold up as icons: the lawyers, and doctors, and Cal Tech Engineers, the military girls...especially the military girls)

Our society has turned women into men and for many of them, the only way for them to feel feminine, to garner even a jolt of their feminine energy, is through unbridled, no holds barred rough fucking. This is the brave new world we live in and men need to be prepared.

---Know YOUR limits. This is the most important and we can't go any further until this is established. Know YOUR limits because women often don't have any. I've sunk into the depraved world of the female psyche and it fucked me over for quie some time.

Know your limits, establish your limits with your partner, and then stick to them. Women will often try to push you past these limits and you can never get in. If she wants to be punched in the fucking face let some other man deal with her damaged ass.

---pull her hair at the root. This is basic shit but a lot of guys fuck this up. Don't just haphazardly pull on her hair, you'll rip it out and that's not what feels good. If you're fucking her from behind reach over, get your hand firmly beneath her thicket and grab at the base, then pull back.

---If you want to know a woman's pain level dig your nails into her lower back and escalate upwards, increasing the pressure each time until she clutches onto you in with insatiable tension. p.s: this is also a very good way to escalate into sex for men with no moves.

---Choking is to be done with ONE HAND and is to be done at the top of the throat. When done at the bottom it creates a sensation of panic that overrides the sensation of dominance and fear that turn a woman on. You can--and I wholly advise---using two hands when she is about to climax, but release right after she orgasms.

I've had women ask me to choke them with my belt while I'm fucking them from behind. Do. Not. Fucking. Do. This. Shit. Yes, it's hot as fuck, but the mark and bruises it can leave behind just aren't worth it.

---Lift your girl and throw her against things. If you can't lift your girl and carry and throw her on the bed or against a wall you need to date smaller women or hit the gym more. Both probably. There is no better feeling than turning a simple makeout into passionate fucking by picking your girl up and slamming her back against whatever wall is nearest in a fit of raw passion.

Women love a man who wants her so badly he just can't control himself. This plays a large part into why women love rape fantasies.

---Rape Fantasies are at YOUR discretion, not hers. You're the one going to jail if she regrets it or gets mad at you, so it's YOUR job to decide whether you can trust her and if you're ok with it. If you're ok with it then COMMIT TO THE BIT. Don't fucking half ass it. Go in there guns ablazing. Also, understand you're fucking a very unstable woman so you probably shouldn't commit to her long term.

---Lastly, learn how to combine all of this into one sexual experience. Most men think rough sex is just smashing your dick into her as hard as possible, losing all rhythm and leaving her out of the process.

If you're fucking a woman on her back grab her hands, pull them beneath her legs, and slide her into you as you thrust into her. You create a see saw effect and you include her and her momentum into it. If her legs are over your shoulder slap her tits, smack her face, bend over and bite her nipples, constantly be inflicting little bits of pain all over her body.

If she's bent over then smack her ass, reach over and pull her hair, slide a finger in her ass, reach under and squeeze her tits, do SOMETHING. Rough sex is about constant action and interaction. It's about wanting someone so badly that your savage animalistic side is unleashed and the caveman takes over.

Women are not some easily broken porcelain doll, they can take quite a bit and love showing it off.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 360 points361 points  (107 children)


All those "rough sex guides" caused me to feel fear, uneasiness and retreat. I read them and I felt somehow... different!

How could I do such things to a girl if I really don't want to do this.

After some time I realized the problem was that I did not fuck the girl I really wanted. There was not too much of sexual desire on my part.

Why there was no sexual desire on my part? Because the girl was so-so. HB-HalfOfWhatIdLikeToFuck. HB-IllreplaceyouwithabettergirlASAP. HB-IllMakeMyselfCumThinkingAboutSomeoneElseAndThenYouLeave.

Why that girl was so-so? Because I was afraid to approach girls that I really liked.

Why was I afraid of this? Well, how can I openly approach a girl, how can I have a lot of courage inside if I know (sub)consciously that my life is a mess, that I have X and Y to complete for tomorrow, that I have not been lifting since X days, that I need to fix my car, that I need to clean my kitchen, that...

To build a desire - a desire that makes all those rough things possible - to approach a high quality girl that I feel desire for - first I needed to have my life in order.

In the past, I lied and cheated. Those are not behaviors of a high value man. Don't get me wrong, I do manipulate girls, but I don't sell them blatant lies now. And, if I am selling myself to her as a successful guy - and the reality is that I am not... you see, where it goes. Also, better girl, better shit detectors.

To have rough sex I need to feel desire first. To feel desire I need a quality woman first. To date a high quality woman I need to have my life in order first.

That's how it goes now.

So, if you're feeling uneasy when reading this "rough sex guide" - perhaps you fucking should. Don't bookmark it. Just do the improvements in your life, lift, sidebar, focus on fixing yourself. Because if you don't feel like having rough sex with a woman... don't adjust your set, perhaps this means that you should not have it.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 49 points50 points  (21 children)

Shit, re-reading my own comment, I understood why I had trouble with sex in my past, failed marriage and why I had no problem fucking a mistress by that time.

I quickly realized, that before I fucked her, I needed to get my stuff in order. And it was good fucking, because after completing N tasks I could be finally focused on fucking. That was good.

But fucking ex wife on the other hand... in context of her "getting my life in order" meant to get rid of her, because - as a crazy (possibly BPD) woman I perceived her as a constant threat. On the other hand, being raised in a toxic abusive environment allowed me to live and survive in such situations. So basically I've given her a weaksauce sex not because of any problems with my dick, but because in order to have good sex I need to have my stuff in order and to get my stuff in order in context of her I needed to dump her.

Currently I'm a happy divorced man. Money earned, kids taken care of, lifting done, flat is clean, laundry done, HEEEEEY SWEETHEART...

Positive energy is attractive.

Guys, you need to realize, that in some cases you will never have proper relationship with a woman of your choice and you need to dump her. If not, your (sub)consciousness won't let you have proper sex with her. It will always be shitty. If she disrespected you, if she cheated on you, if she is not as high quality as you would like her to be... you won't have proper relationship with her, because you won't be able to have rough, degrading sex with her.

Because, in some cases, to get your life in order, you need to get rid of some people first.

[–]SosaNovation 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is so true man. I just got out of a toxic relationship. I was 160 lb when we started dating, and now I'm 180 lb. Once you realize that things are getting toxic, everything goes to shit. The sex is shit, daily things become more of a drag like shaving, school work starts to pile up etc ... The worst was thinking my long hair was attractive. My girlfriend just wanted to keep me as my hobo self, so I'd avoid getting cuts because she said my long hair was sexy. I'm sure she was just trying to feed her ego by keeping me looking and behaving like a hobo beta bitch. Thank god all of that is over.

[–]captainaryan 11 points12 points  (10 children)

Dated a BPD girl in the most fucked up 8 months of my life. Broke up with her, I started monk mode, and she started dating a cuck less than half a month later. And you better be sure I was told how well he treats her, near constantly.

You cannot date these women with the idea that you can work it out by getting your shit together, because then you're a threat.

[–]PolegarVermelho 7 points7 points [recovered]

Dated one BPD for 9 months. Redpilled the fuck out of me. I can now smell crazy like a fucking hound.

Almost 10 years later, I'm think I finally found an LTR worth girl.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 6 points7 points  (1 child)

It's time to read black dragon blog, especially those parts about monogamy for 3 up to 8 years and no more. Then they get bored. I'm not telling you not to pursue that ltr. Do whatever you want only keep it realistic not Disney.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Wife lost attraction when I got my shit together. Now she is with a guy who spends a lot of time with her. Somehow similar situation to yours. It is like they want control over that guy more than anything, nothing else counts, children, family, nothing.

[–]verify_account 2 points2 points [recovered]

I saw that with my last LTR. She may want a guy she can control but she'll never be happy.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fuck her happiness. I'm not responsible for that.

[–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Wife lost attraction when I got my shit together.


If she isn't turned on by a man improving his physique, better clothes, more powerful, more professional and overall a higher quality leader.... then jump ship as fast as possible. That is 'Koo-Koo" to a whole other level.

You sound happy, glad you woke up.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just realized that with my past codependent mindset achieving anything beyond heavily mediocre would be impossible.

[–]gorefap 3 points3 points [recovered]

Mm, I dunno. I've had some fucking class A misdemeanor sex with one girl who has cheated on me in the past. All depends on how well you are able to channel your aggression. Revenge sex is basically untoppable.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Me too! More than a few times with more than one girl.

The deal is, I'm not going to low my standards and fuck ex-wife. She already proven her worth and her value, when I think about her current b/f I want to puke. I'd love some good old revenge fucking, but this woman is out.

[–]Gentleman_DaGa 2 points2 points [recovered]

This is probably what I (currently 29) needed to hear. I bluepilled into a relationship with a HB9 (30 but still looking like 25), who I considered "the perfect match" for me. Right after we were "seeing each other" for a while, I found out that she had a hard-time CC right before we "are together". In fact, there were many other signs I read here on RP that are clear showstopers - i.e. waiting to have sex after 1 month, found flirty texts to some other guy etc. Despite that, fast forward 2 years, we are still together. On one hand, I really like this girl... we have SO much in common e.g. hobbies, view of life, lifestyle. On the other, in 2 years, we only had a awesome sex like 3 times (btw they were pretty rough ones - just to confirm that I agree with the post). We both want more but neither of us knows hot to fix this.

Than I started taking TRP. Re-evaluating the relationship, I know that I have to leave this one as it is probably far easier than trying to repair something that doesn't work.

Just for background my value is in my point of view currently on a big rise at least in the terms of wealth, social status and looks. I have a clean sweet appt., recently moved to another city for way above average-paid job, I hit the gym regulary and can talk practically to anyone. Despite that, I do not feel value because my life is not in order. And I feel that the messy relationship is whats holding me back.

Therefore my question is, how did you manage this mindset to work in practise? Of course I think about sunken costs (mostly in terms of time) and I overthink everything. That is the reason that sometimes what I feel in the gut never comes to actions.

[–]1Soarinc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dude it SUCKS I know what you mean about the sunken costs. The worst part is knowing how much better off your life would be now if you invested your time alternatively into X Y & Z rather than her...

[–]SullenBarLurker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Run dude. I'm on the other side of breaking up with somebody in a situation just like this. There is not a part of my life that hasn't improved. Take the plunge.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 213 points214 points  (34 children)

This nigga right here

My man I don't give gold because fuck this SJW paradise, but if I could upvote this shit 100 times I would

so many men don't feel the masculine urges because they're with a woman they know is beneath their level, they're not compelled to dominate and passionate and vigorously fuck her brains out because she doesn't inspire that in them.

They won't admit it though and that time needs to end.

[–]vagbutters 56 points57 points  (1 child)

My man I don't give gold because fuck this SJW paradise,

I wish more people on this subreddit realized this. Look, I get that you like a thread or comment, but don't give money to the cucks who sponsor more cuck content.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

yeah the gold thing was ingenious by whoever created reddit

even people who dislike reddit donate because it's a natural human response to want to reward really good content.

then by making the gold donations anonymous they can donate themselves to make people think it's a common occurrence

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 21 points22 points  (10 children)

they know

I'd love to read some posts on ignoring one's instincts. It is common in children raised in families with alcoholic, abusive or absent father. In females, we call this "sluts" and "daddy issues". In men, we call this "blue pill". We despise both.

But, in reality, those are just people taught not to listen to their own self. That's how I see this.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 47 points48 points  (6 children)

Well for the past 50-60 years we've been cultivating an emasculated population, a nation of feminized men and masculine women.

The modern man goes out into the world with no clue how to be a man, and he meets a woman who has no clue how to be a woman.

They then repeat this failed process over and over until they both think

"Huh, maybe I'm not a boy/girl or i'm not into boys/girls because it never fucking works"

We've dulled people's instincts to make them easier to control

[–]captainaryan 21 points22 points  (5 children)

Growing up in a ridiculously liberal town, I watched so many dumb sluts and blue pill guys end up gay or transgender due to exactly the shit you described. These people cluelessly continue the trend and they're as miserable as ever.

After a while it's just a shitty trading card game of collecting oppression cards. Crabs in a barrel.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

if there was a map of transgendered and lesbians---we really need to stop associating gay men with lesbians and transgendered---I'd bet anything that they were concentrated to highly liberal, affluent areas, places where gender confusion can thrive.

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Speak for yourself, I don't despise sluts with daddy issues. They're awesome!!!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I only 'don't despise them' as ONS/plates

[–]antariusz 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Hard to be dominant with a woman that would crush you if she climbed on top of you.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

a yuuuuppppp

I'm a big black dude and I've taken down some chubby women

I can toss them around because I spent my life playing football and throwing around lineman, but I can't imagine the average dude trying to dominate these women

[–]1PantsonFire1234 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Not sure how big you are. I've had women who were chubby in the past. All smaller than me and I could throw them around. They just didn't get me in the mood.

There was a post about it some months ago. Hip to waist ratio increases the sexual urge of the man. The bigger the ratio the harder the man was.

Obviously fatties fail this hourglass test by means of no contest.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I love Latinas because they absolutely wreck the hip to waist ratio

I'm a 6'2 black dude sitting at 275---was 320 but the boy got tired of his dick not working properly---so I'm a big man .

I still don't get hard for girls over 150 though I met this thick ass Latina in fit shape sitting at 160.

You're not a bad person for liking fit women the same way a shark isn't a bad animal for wanting to eat you

[–]1PantsonFire1234 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeh 150 lbs is the absolute max. Some girls who are taller like 6' can get away with some more cushin. That's it. Any girl bellow 5'10 better not be fat.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Wow man this hits home. Previous SO tried to fuck with my head when we broke up. Telling me in great detail how she'd been railed by some previous fling. Then telling me she had not felt the same urge with me.

Fucking funny when in the beginning, she would be dripping wet and excited to fuck. And I could barely finish. I tried going rough on her and dominate but it just didn't feel right. She did not create that urge with me, creating sexual urge is a woman's job- hell it's their only job, to look hot.

As you might have guessed this was a semi-fatty. No slim waist, flat ass, average tits who didn't acknowledge each other, short fat neck and a big head. Try getting in the mood with that.

She didn't bring anything out of me. No attraction, but I tricked myself because I was low on pussy and wanted a girlfriend. I also kind of pittied her, now that's a recipe for arousal. Never again.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Welcome to the real world man

Accepting your failures is the beginning

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 20 points21 points  (2 children)

For some guys monk mode will take a month, for others it will take years. Depends how deep your issues go, if you have relapses in your self-development, and what your starting point is. Some guys physiologically lose weight easier than others, some guys don't need to lose weight at all. Some guys are more naturally outgoing than others. Some guys are poor, some aren't. You get the point. A poor, fat guy with no father, friends and fuck all social skills and is going to be in monk mode a lot longer than a skinny fat middle class guy with friends and some cash behind him. The deeper your problems, the longer the tunnel and the further away the light.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (12 children)

I hate to break this to you, and all readers, but soon even the 9s are no longer satisfying. The desire drops and gets hard to fire it up again. Being successful with women is a two edged sword. When you make your hobby into your job, you ruin the fun of the hobby. Mediocre players, be wary of attaining mastery, sometimes you just no longer enjoy a game which is too easy.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Well, I guess that's why my friend told me yesterday that I should get a motorbike.

On the other hand, I specifically told the cutie I saw yesterday, "do everything you can to make me desire you just like I do today, because I love this feeling". But fuck that, I slept over and realized that I AM NEGOTIATING DESIRE. And we haven't even started fucking. Oh well. Two-edged it will be then.

[–]sharp7 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Its because your setting the bar too low. Fucking a hot girl or two is nothing. So many better and more challenging things to do in life.

[–]trpperr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is true. I've done a ton of work in a certain field and I feel pretty damn confident in my abilities, but the joy is largely gone, sadly.

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[–]BeeGinger 2 points3 points  (11 children)

I have a genuine answer, and I hope that you are able to give me a reasonable solution/suggestion.

If a girl I used to date, now wants back in my life, but I only want her around for sex. She keeps trying to make it all this lovey dovey (I miss you) and all I care for, again is the sex. Do I mislead (lie) by leading on the lovey dovey, so I can get the goods, or do I just tell her upfront and honest I only miss her sexually, which risks never getting anything?

I think I already know the answer, which is to tell her upfront and honest.

[–]pfffft_comeon 18 points19 points  (1 child)

respect yourself enough to not waste your energy by tricking her. you'll be putting energy into lying. you only have so much energy. is that how you want to spend it? if she's down cool. if she's not there are tons of girls in the world who are so don't be a little bitch about this.

[–]needaknow88 1 point2 points  (2 children)

In a similar situation myself.

[–]AnAbsoluteSith 9 points10 points  (1 child)

In short the answer to your issue (and yours /u/BeeGinger) is Abundance

A man with an abundance mindset has no need to enter a game he has no wish to play. I'm going to assume this girl you used to date is from your pre-RP days. She has probably seen some changes on your end and is coming back for seconds.

You have a dilemma - here are your options:

  • A) You entertain her lovey mushy frame for the sake of sex. You are entering her frame solely for the sake of sex. You've lost the game. If you have abundance you do not enter her frame because in the bigger picture sex from her is a plus but it does not really matter. Which leads us to >

  • B) You tell her the truth. You are only interested in her sexually. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Remember you have an Abundance mindset. You don't twist and contort yourself for her to get what you want. You lay your cards on the table and if she doesn't like it well pshhhh that's her loss. You keep on moving.

The obvious answer here is B). I should add however that you do this with tact. You don't watch her in the face and point blank tell her you just want her as a human flesh light. Instead you casually say that you aren't ready for anything serious right now. You state your position (your frame): that you are open to enjoying her company and being sexual, but if she doesn't want that, that you are completely fine and she can go ahead and have a nice life (maintaining your frame). Take the opportunity to use this as a learning experience.

[–]BeeGinger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you, and I really appreciate you taking the time out to break that down for me. I totally agree, and really I already knew that answer, and she was during my RP transition ;).

[–]manslutalt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Be honest with her (but don't be too honest, try to let her down easy). Sex is better without guilt. If she says no, find someone who says yes.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Cut all contact unless you want to be cucked. You're her plan B. She's an ex for a reason. Block her cut all contact. You have oneitis.

[–]BeeGinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sigh... there always has to be one. I don't need to defend my self, but I will briefly. I am far from oneitis, I have at LEAST a handful of girls I could invite over tonight to do whatever I felt like doing. I could honestly care less what happens with this girl, I just wanted to get some good feedback from the brilliant minds here on TRP.

[–]tb87670 3 points4 points  (4 children)

I never had this problem. First time I fucked I got the woman wound up by pretending to be alpha in bed and she was pulling on my body to kiss while I went at it. That was accident. By the time I fucked my 3rd woman (was a virgin last fall, went to TRP, y'all know the story now) I learned when I slammed into her hard from behind she moaned. Slammed harder got harder moaning. Then it clicked, fuck them hard. It can be a 5.5 or an HB7, I like making them moan. All the extra shit in the OP just sounds like it will make it better. Thing is I have a tolerance, if a woman is ugly enough I won't make out with her I won't do it. If I am able to make out with her then I'm able to do all the rough shit to get her grabbing and clawing at me.

So no I never had your problem. If I don't like a woman enough I don't fuck her, then again I prefer an easy 6 over a bitchy 7 or 8 that puts up resistance any day. My tolerances might be looser than some fellows around here though, I still consider myself a 6 until my gut goes away but 6's have been getting easier the past few months and I nailed an 8 before. Point is I never fuck a woman I am not attracted to, I'm just attracted to a lot more of them than most guys since I am high drive :)

[–]gorefap 4 points4 points [recovered]

You pretty much missed the entire point of this post.

Hard fucking isn't rough sex. Hard fucking is just slamming your dick into things. Rough sex is an art form.

[–]tb87670 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Exactly. I accidentally discovered part of that lesson on my own. I said the stuff in the OP will really add to what I learned myself. But if you can't do hard fucking ie. laying pipe then you have bigger problems to worry about before getting to the rest of it. If you can't pace yourself, can't get a rhythm, then slowly ramp up that rhythm until you're going at it hard then you need to start with that. It's a base to build upon, and the OP is what I plan to expand that base with.

EDIT: And yes new guys, that means going out and fucking women. It's the only way to get better. You can watch porn for years, study about G-spots on them vids, and still act like a lost puppy the first time a female gets your dick wet. Get out there.

[–]runswiththelions 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn. How'd you know about my current situation

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (12 children)

To build a desire...I needed to have my life in order[...] So, if you're feeling uneasy when reading this "rough sex guide" - perhaps you fucking should.

This is female imperative thinking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd9muK2M36c

Have you ever met a 5yo boy that needs to have his shit together before being himself? You are socially conditioned out of that state of "I'm the shit" since the day you were born.

[–]p3n1x 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Comparing a man with responsibility to an undeveloped unweathered child.

By your logic, you are telling us to "Bang Like a 5yr Old!!!"

Yeah, you can bullshit confidence to a point...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OK, dude. Don't be overconfident. Good luck! :)

[–]TheDialecticParadox 6 points7 points  (7 children)

Didn't watch the link. But your comment makes no sense to me. Thinking you are awesome for no reason is fucking delusional and people like that never get far. You have to earn confidence through failure and experience. It's called self-improvement.

[–]WolfofAnarchy 10 points11 points  (2 children)

What? The people who do think they are awesome ARE the ones who get far.

[–]TheDialecticParadox 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Read what I said again. 'People that think they are awesome for no reason are fucking delusional and people like that never get far' There's a difference between between an obese wow streamer thinking he's top shit because he's ranked 3rd in his country, and a charismatic, ripped 25 year old entrepreneur who owns multiple self-sustaining businesses.

The first is just a douche that no-one likes and the second is a guy everyone wants to be friends with.

[–]PianoIsGod 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Abundance mentality. Being comfortable in your own skin no matter your current situation. Stop setting up these mental barriers for yourself.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Thinking you are awesome for no reason is fucking delusional and people like that never get far.

LOLs How about no...https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/01/18/overconfidence-is-the-heart-of-game/

[–]TheDialecticParadox 1 point2 points  (1 child)

"On the subject of nomenclature, overconfidence goes by another name… inner game.

Ultimately, it’s success with women that will bring you to the pinnacle of overconfidence"

Just proved my point. You have to go out there and get rejected countless times and learn from your mistakes before you earn the right to overconfidence.

Taking this advice and telling yourself you're awesome every morning when you wake up may fool some people, but if you don't actually go out and game woman they will see straight through your little facade.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Interesting perspective. Show me.

[–]ThrowyMcGruder 53 points54 points  (8 children)

I have no source, so consider this anecdotal, but I remember reading something about an anonymous survey done on women asking about their biggest sexual fantasies.

The whole thing had to be scrapped because the overwhelming majority confessed to having rape fantasies.

Now, they obviously don't want to be raped by any old idiot.

They want the hot delivery guy who comes into work once a week with a paper delivery to just go for it, in a romance novel kind of way, when they're in the copy room.

Where she conveniently is during every delivery with a few top buttons opened on her blouse and some very important work to do that involves bending over to get things.

They need to cover this up because it reveals their animalistic, submissive side, and they'll claim that it needs to be covered up because chubby Dan, who works in the next cubicle, might think it's OK to rape.

Then they'll blame the whole thing on the patriarchy anyway.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 42 points43 points  (3 children)

the problem is we have dirty old men

and fat ugly has beens

teaching people about sex

[–]Look_Ma_Im_On_Reddit 22 points23 points  (2 children)

This read like a haiku to me, thank you.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

bahaaahahah sjw haikus


[–]gorefap 8 points8 points [recovered]

Rape fantasies are misunderstood. Women don't want to have a knife held against their throat in a back alley and threatened with physical injury by an autistic guy that can't read social cues aka rape. They want to be overwhelmed and overpowered with a man's unbridled and uncontrollable lust. They want to be ravaged in such a way that they are powerless to stop it, not raped in the traditional sense.

Of course women don't want to fuck someone they don't want to fuck. That's common fucking sense and has nothing to do with any SJW atriarchies.

[–]mgbkurtz 8 points9 points  (7 children)

OP is leaving out the psychological aspects of domination. Yes, my g/f and I have "rough sex" as described by OP (maybe even go farther), but the psychological play is very devastating. Denial is usually the most powerful one. Orgasm denial, even denying to punish her (when she's tied and gagged up and begging for it) is crazy good.

Afterwards, however, it's so important to have a cool down or what they call in BDSM "aftercare". Some RP'ers will disagree, but it's extremely important from a comfort and trust factor.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

I am aghast that I forgot the after care part.

The rougher the sex the more delicate you are after. the balance between dominant lover and security and protection provider must be in balance.

this only applies to women you care about and are planning to keep around.

for the random plate leave her sore and wet and covered in cum and go shower, your detachment is what she's into.

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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

it's absolutely normal for men to need aftercare as well after a particularly intense session.

[–]yizolo 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Playing volleyball last week and the ball was hit way out of bounds. It went close to the corner one of the girls was in. I told her to go get it. She said no. I smiled like a kid who had found a new toy and told her again to get the ball. She just dug her heels in more, and another guy went to get it for her. I said, "Look what you made him do."

Later one of my plates who was there told me that girl was pissed at me. She said, "Not every girl is submissive like I am."

The same girl acts like a lost kitten around her boyfriend. Even the ones that admit it about themselves don't admit it about their gender.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

women don't know how women work

it's fascinating

[–]Less_Offensive 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It truly is. The interesting thing is that they THINK they know how they work. This is the power of the hamster.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

women are solipsistic

i say that not as an insult, but as a means of explaining the complexity that is extreme self interest.

Women care about themselves. When feminists are arguing for shit they're arguing for what benefits THEM personally and if it happens to help another woman then cool.

Women can't teach you how to fuck any other woman, they can barely tell you how to catch themselves.

It's why women love things like fate and destiny, it's a magical explanation for what men call "Having game"

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 38 points39 points  (24 children)

I can vouch for every single word above.... I have been "Domming" girls for years. In fact, they come to me for precisely that reason. I call them dirty names. I am rough and demanding with them. I choke them. I slap some of them carefully...use the last half of your fingers on her cheek, do not hit her like you'd slap a guy. I get ALL of them to like anal. (that's a whole post in itself) I get them all to like being dirty cock holes for Daddy. I bind them, use floggers on them, leather shackles on wrists and ankles, vibes on clits, fist fucking most of them....the list goes on and on and this is not the place for such stories. I don't care how good of a lover you are or how well you can "make her come". They all seek a male who will treat them like a fuktoy. If you are not, she'll find me, and I will. AWALT and AWWT. I kid you not.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 34 points35 points  (15 children)

The Sub/Dom thing was an underground fetish

Women have normalized this shit. If men knew how common this was they would shit themselves.

Women's sexuality and sexual limits know no bounds

A couple weeks ago I walked into my club's bathroom and had to throw out a girl getting double teamed in the handicap stall while another guy filmed.


[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 10 points11 points  (14 children)

LMAO...yup. I have puppies 33 yrs my junior begging me to train them to be my asswhores. It's unreal. I had one want to go way off into dark shit that I had to next. She was out of my perv level...lol. If you have game, they'll follow you anywhere. (I'm going to shut up now before I just sound like a liar) Thank the gods for TRP. Love your posts TRG!

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 24 points25 points  (11 children)

do a post on Anal.

this sub is still about fucking

I know I'd personally like to read it. shoot me a message if your uncomfotable posting

[–]VTMSCHVSVCTRY 4 points4 points [recovered]

I'm uncomfortable just reading, but.. I can't stop.

[–]1Jax77789 1 point2 points  (4 children)

If you do not mind me asking. Do you have an opinion on using dildos with your bitches ? I mean dildos way bigger than your dick.

I think it can add to the dominating experience, her feeling herself double or even triple teamed while tied up and blinded. On the other hand I fear being outclassed by the dildo so I do not know about that.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I know dudes who use dildos and get rave reviews because the second biggest dirty behind the curtains fantasy for women is taking on multiple men at a time

the rush of being wanted by 2 men and them wanting you so badly they're willing to share you is obvious.

but I don't want any woman who wants shit like that.

[–]DerDiud 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You need to write more 101 posts on this topic, to help us fellow beta males calibrating.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right now I'm in a long term relationship with a woman I've plated for 10 years so my writing is going to be skewed more towards relationships and how to dominate and lead them, how to maintain masculinity, and how to lead women and those around you.

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I use them, and vibrators (on their clit while assfucking or throating), and I end up fisting most of them. Pussies stretch and snap back. Pussies are dumb. Once heated up, all they notice is sensation and they will grip or stretch to match whatever's in them. Sex and desire are mostly in the mind. Her arousal is much more important to good sex than if your cock is "outclassed" by bigg dildos or not. May be posting later so I'll save my time for that...

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I get ALL of them to like anal. (that's a whole post in itself)

Don't hold back on us fucker.

[–]garrettruskamp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd read that post 10/10. Am very intrigued and am also very skeptical, but hope to be shown wrong.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (5 children)

The problem is most of these women want both the relationship and the roughhousing. You can't have that. Sluts still want boyfriends in between the hard dicking.

Maybe you found a woman to have both with. But from my experience there's no such thing. I had to make a conscious decision that I would fuck them. Not commit to them.

It's not that I cant do both. It's the women who don't. They can't have the man that degrades them also be her boyfriend. Every single time I went completely sadistic on a girl- she never dared ask me for commitment. The stage was set.

[–]RPill_Clinton 33 points33 points [recovered]

One of my plates who I've kept for a long time loves being degraded. I can literally spit on her, call her a whore, slap her, give her a little water and keep face fucking the shit out of her until she throws up and her make up drips off her face. Then I'll rub her water throw up all over her pussy until she cums. Blows my mind.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 50 points51 points  (16 children)

The average man reading this is thinking 3 things

1.You're a monster

2.This girl doesn't exist

3.If she does she's some stupid slut----again, most blue pillers are misogynists.

You're not a monster, you're giving her what she wants

She does exist and she looks exactly like the girl you dream of

partially correct: because of our masculinization of women a lot of them can't get off because they don't feel feminine. simple domination won't work.

think of it like how black women are so masculine the only men who can dominate them are cartoonish black men: pimps, rappers, thugs, etc.

This is what women are becoming sexually, they need hardcore bdsm just to feel any sort of feminine.

Women have always liked rough sex, over the past 5 years it's gotten down right DISGUSTING. Women ask me to do things that absolutely disgust and frighten me.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Women have always liked rough sex, over the past 5 years it's gotten down right DISGUSTING. Women ask me to do things that absolutely disgust and frighten me.

I think this is also related to porn consumption. Men and women both watch a LOT of porn. Increasing amounts of young men are developing E.D. as they need stronger and more bizarre porn to get off, and women seek out rougher and riskier sex to feel pleasure.

[–]lifeontheedge38 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I had PIED last year. Confused the hell out of me. I'm a teenager....? Found yourbrainonporn.com

I haven't clicked on a porn video in 6 months. The 90 day reboot worked wonders. The majority of my friends are virgins. I've warned them. They give me a ton of shit about it and don't believe me. Suit yourself!

[–]1PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeh noticed this to. It's the porn generation for a reason. Women though are by all definition a bottomless well. Imagine a child being alone in Disney land, having the whole park to himself. There are no boundaries to this child, everything has to be experienced.

Men are more about the type of woman- how she looked etc. Women are more about the act- what was done, where it was done and in what emotional context. So they are bound to be more kinky than men.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i quit porn 2 years ago

best decision of my life

[–]NaughtyFred 3 points4 points  (6 children)

I like your "thinking mans approach to a rough sex" writing style.

Would you mind laying out either in a reply or a new post the answer to this:

If you want to have rough sex with a woman in your bed 99% of women will let you do...

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

perhaps I'm not understanding your question or maybe there was a typo

[–]NaughtyFred 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Early morning here, typo, now edited.

If you want to have rough sex with a woman in your bed 99% of women will let you do...

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 9 points10 points  (3 children)


A. Are you the stranger she's chosen for the night because she's bored and doesn't feel like putting any effort in/ a beta/her post wall desperation choice?

B. A man she respects and/or fears and/or loves?

If it's A you can probably spank her on her butt, pull her hair a little, but don't ask for anal or face fucking or any fun, nasty shit.

If it's B you can do whatever you're confident enough to demand. I've turned so many women onto anal by just warming them up and teasing them and stroking them properly. Facefucking and gagging and choking are easy peasy.

licking my ass, crawling for me, gargling my balls, this shit is common.

now, there's some savage, nasty degrading shit it takes a unique women to allow, but for the most part the modern woman has nearly no limits.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

... and some BP will marry her and get starfish sex. Haha

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

girls marry in their 30s the men they didn't wanna fuck in their 20s.

that's the western world at large

[–]RPill_Clinton 2 points2 points [recovered]

It's crazy dude because she literally worships the ground I walk on. And sometimes I think to myself "Hey, this chick is pretty cool I'm going to treat her good." And then she starts becoming starts subtly disrespecting me and losing attraction to me. So I'll just ignore her for a week or so and start over.

Edit: She is one of the most feminine girls I have ever met.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It takes acts of absolute depraved and cartoonish dominance to make her feel feminine.

She's damaged and I wish cases like this were rare. unfortunately i've dealt with more of this type of woman than any other

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It is amazing how they love that shit. I don't think the boys here are ready for the twisted stories I, and apparently you, have. I'm sure some of the old timers and hard asses would love them but that's for a different sub. Ahhhh, slutty hoes. Bless their broken self images.

[–]darkflame420 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Kick it up a notch. Tease her by almost doing those things but not doing it till she begs for it, till she tells you how much she want you to fuck her throat, ask her what she is, and make sure she callings herself something more degrading then you been calling her.

[–]Conquer98 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Lucky, I need to get myself one of these sluts

[–]RPill_Clinton 9 points9 points [recovered]

Lucky? Ha. I worked for this shit dude.

[–]OneInAZillion 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Women are not some easily broken porcelain doll, they can take quite a bit and love showing it off.

As some girl once said somewhere on this site, "You're not going to break me, but it'd certainly be fun if you tried"

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (8 children)

It is important to negotiate these things with your partner.

For example, I got into the habit of covering a woman's mouth when their parents are home to keep them quiet and let them moan without fear of being heard. The first few women I did this with LOVED it. I don't pull it out all the time, but one time, when I was in my late teens, I had a gf who had been assaulted, and when I did this she understandably freaked out. However, I had one girlfriend in university, and when we were doing it with her roommates in the house, she expressed concerned that she would be too loud, so I put my hand over her mouth and she came almost instantly. The next time, even though her roommates weren't home, she actually grabbed my hand and put it over her mouth. Not quite the same feeling, of course, so I pulled it away and told her that I would put my hand on her mouth when I felt like it and not when she wanted it.

Some girls are into biting, some are into hair pulling (I only knew one who said she wasn't, but I had been pulling her hair during sex and she always moaned when I did it and she had never mentioned it to me until after we were done seeing each other--which I didn't think was consistent with how she responded to it when we were partners). And I have yet to meet a woman who doesn't like having her ass slapped. Slapping elsewhere is hit and miss. Some women like to be slapped across the face, or have their tits slapped. If I feel like a woman is slap happy, I might give them a light slap on the face when they are riding me and see how they respond. The mouth covering and throat grabbing can be hit and miss, but the overwhelming number of women I've been with enjoyed both. The dirty talk depends on the woman. You pull out words like 'cock' and 'pussy', it's generally a safe bet. You pull out words like 'slut', and 'whore', and 'cunt', it really depends on the trust level, and what she likes. Some women love it, but some women don't. More often, some women like it conditionally. For example, they don't want to be called 'a slut', or 'a whore', they want to be 'your slut', or 'your whore'. So while 'shut up and take my cock whore' might work with some, most would prefer something like 'your my whore', or 'are you a slut for my cock'.

And I have also had a partner ask me to put a knife to her throat during sex, which I only agreed to do if the blade side was facing away from her throat (which she did not like).

These are all innate responses. Biological. Sexually, animals want the strongest seed, so they want a show of strength during copulation. Doing a girl dogging style and pushing her down flat while grabbing her hair with one hand and wrapping your hand around her throat with the other and biting her earlobe or shoulder is akin to what animals do. There are wild cats who bite their mate's shoulder to stop them from getting away.

Still, humans are a different breed of animal. They have socially learned behaviours and you must be sure that these things are consensual, even when the thrill of them is that they are in, in play, not consensual. Make sure she is comfortable with you and trusts you, or give her a command word to let you know if she wants you to stop (like a safe word). This lets her say 'no' and 'stop' and 'don't', which can be part of the fantasy, without you stopping, but that if she pulls out the actual command word, you know to stop.

This can be fun, but you want to make sure she's having a good time. If she's not, it won't be good for either of you in the short or long term.

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[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I don't assume men are rapists or idiots so I can't add in "make sure she's having a good time"

We here at trp love women, we would never want to hurt them in ways they dislike.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

It's not about assuming men are rapists. It's just some of these things are ruined through verbal communication, so it is important to be very attuned to body language and queues offered through bestial grunts. These are the kinds of things that if you say "Is it ok to pull your hair and slap your ass" ruin the act itself.

Smoke what I'm rolling?

[–]Il128 22 points22 points [recovered]

Do not talk to a woman about rough sex! Always, always escalate rough sex until she says, no. There is nothing that will dry a pussy faster than a man asking permission to have sex.

Often times without your prompting a woman will tell you in some way she wants you to rape her. She may say something like, "You can rape me if you want." or "I've always wondered what it was like to be raped."

The first time this happened to me I was put off and confused. I'd never raped anybody and had no idea how to do it. I'm not a rapist. And at the time I had no idea what she wanted. After a couple years in the BDSM community I do now. ^^I ^^also ^^grew ^^to ^^hate ^^the ^^BDSM ^^community. ^^I ^^suggest ^^not ^^interacting ^^with ^^the ^^BDSM ^^community.

So here's a consensual rape guide:

  1. Never "rape" your woman until she asks you to.

  2. Do not pre plan or talk about it with her. It must be spontaneous.

  3. Wait until she knows it's you and she is comfortable in a situation. For example, she's getting in the shower or she's getting ready for bed.

  4. You are playing out a scene. When you approach her for this fantasy, you must be forceful and slightly scary. Initiate with this phrase, "The safe word is, purple." Command her to submit. Tear her clothes off. Be physically rough and say threatening things. Do not ask for sexual positions or acts, take them.

  5. Go by the safe word. No doesn't mean no anymore. Stop doesn't mean stop anymore. Twist her arm. Slap her face. Choke her hard. Rage at her, "Don't scream!" etc.

  6. The actual scene should be as rough as you and she can physically handle. The scene should be as mentally rough as you and she can handle.

  7. This sex isn't about her, it's a rape scene. This sex is about you and taking what you want. She will cum from this, this is exactly what she wants.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

this guide is important with how many women have rape fantasies in 2016

i for one refuse to take part in these atrocities now that i see how damaged these women are(and man there's a lot of them)

[–]2awalt_cupcake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I loved rape play with my last ltr. I wanted to know how the hell I did it. Thanks for this guide.

edit: note that women you just met prompting they like rape fantasies is a HUGE RED FLAG. Brought a girl from the bar and the first things out of her mouth when she sat on the couch was how her last bf raped her before. She said it coyly with fuck me eyes. I did not rape her. Instead I tried escalating normally. She tried forcing her fantasy onto the situation to which I withdrew. Rape accusations are not worth it.

2 edit: I too hate the BDSM community. I like BDSM. The people suck ass.

[–]gorefap 3 points3 points [recovered]

Just to add to this: fucking from behind. One hand over her shoulder to keep her pressed against you and for stability, other hand underneath her armpit around her throat. Choke fuck from behind and keep her there for as long as possible.

Next goes one of two ways: if she pulls up toward you then push against her and slam her down and change the game up accordingly. Don't let her get up until you want her to and make sure she knows its what you want. If she relaxes down keep her held up by her throat. If you can then make sure you really bear into her and get your face as close to hers as possible from behind. The idea isn't to thrust or pump it's to drive/grind it deep in her and make her feel pinned. Fuck playing with her clit, that's weak. Tell her to play with her own fucking clit and if she doesn't then jolt her around until she does.

Basically whatever she tries to do just force her to do the opposite with strict force.

Dealing with starfish:

On top if you have bed straps (get them) strap her arms down and death grip her ankles. Tell her she's your fuck doll and it's time for her to do her job. Pull her legs up and jerk yourself off with her body. Make her beg you to pump her full of your load. I have never fucked a woman that didn't gush from this. If you buckle under pressure, have no beast mode, have low strength, or have no self confidence you'll be better off not trying or you'll just piss her off and lose respect.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 27 points28 points  (12 children)

I'll add that it's at the moment of her orgasm that she needs to be given some kind of kinetic movement.

Even things as simple as grabbing her legs and thrashing them about gives her the sensation of being manhandled. Shake the whole bed if you can. Action.


Sure... but it's just so they can psychologically release their bodies to your control.

Oh, and if it's a low quality girl don't waste the effort. (it should be a reward for the girl that you like and behaves well)


[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 33 points34 points  (11 children)

Right as a woman climaxes is when you should flip her onto her back, choke her with 2 hands while on top of her, and fuck her like your dick is going to fall off.

That dominance when she orgasms will translate to a better orgasm and her nurtured dependence on your masculinity

[–]NeoreactionSafe 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Just don't repeat everything over and over.

It matters less what you do than whether you do something new each time.

Women are watchers... they study... they learn your tricks.

What gives them a thrill is constantly being surprised.


[–]pfffft_comeon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

now that is some great advice anybody at any level can apply

[–]insanity_wow27 4 points5 points  (16 children)

So what if you don't like rough sex. I'm meant to fuck her like she wants every time. Wheres the fun in that.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 5 points6 points  (13 children)

did you read #1

only go to YOUR limits.

but like a poster accurately stated earlier, than animalistic passion comes out when a man is fucking a women he find beautiful.

you could have love testosterone(like so many men nowadays) or the women in your life are beneath your standards.

[–]insanity_wow27 8 points9 points  (12 children)

Ive had plenty of great sex without fucking her like a viking. Each to their own but pounding some chick like a savage was never that pleasurable for me. It's like the difference between savouring a good meal and throwing it back like a drunk at burger king.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 3 points4 points  (6 children)

you've had great sex

your partners haven't

[–]insanity_wow27 2 points3 points  (5 children)

I have my moments. Sex is an art not a science.

[–]Prismatic8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's what a hippie or a women would say.

Every. Single. Thing. On. Earth. Is. A. Science!

Art is just creating things as aesthetic or as emotion enducing as possible so that people get intense fee fee's from it.

At the same time "Art" an many other things like rhythm or symbols have real motivational or unifying effect on people. You can setup, plan and abuse art to create a movement. Everything is Science.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

women don't want moments

they want great sex

[–]insanity_wow27 2 points3 points  (2 children)

For a red pill guy you seem very concerned about what women want.

[–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ive had plenty of great sex without fucking her like a viking.

"you" have. What about her? They like to 'FUCK', not have satisfying sex

Girls don't like to hurt feelings, can't listen to what they "say" about your performance. Only their actions during / after. There is a difference between her going .. "mmmmmmphff" and then WRBLGUBIEFOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH"

Some dudes think servicing your woman is submissive. Fuck them. Getting her engine redlined takes me to a Cave Man place where there is no orgasm like it otherwise. Ropes upon Ropes upon Ropes. Then the look on her face ... you are her master and she loves you for it.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well do try to understand what he's saying. I think men who tend to be relationship oriented are not as comfortable doing shit like this. Personally I can't do without but if someone were to make a post about "how to relationship your girl properly" I'd be very uncomfortable.

There's no way I could pair with a girl like that. I've had fun flings in the past but nothing deep and serious. After all I've witnessed and read I couldn't for the life of me. Maybe that will change one day.

See the the aligning similarities? Most men, even some TRP men are still far to relationship oriented to feel comfortable degrading their little princess like that.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So what if you don't like rough sex. I'm meant to fuck her like she wants every time. Wheres the fun in that.

There are so many ways you can dominate a woman and degrade her so you get inside her head. That may be the more important goal. If you can get inside her head she will gladly give you the sex YOU want and feel feminine/desired for it.

[–]J_AsapGem 1 point2 points  (1 child)

it's vice versa too guys, a HB whatever girl will only fuck betabob in a stupid missionary style while for the alpha she will be a dirty little whore and do whatever you please, it's all about desire, if you're not sexually craving the other person it won't feel as good as it should.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's for this reason that I push women's buttons before sex.

i touch them inappropriately in public, make them say dirty filthy things, talk about all the nasty shit i wanna do

it quickly lets you know where you are on the totem pole

[–]darkflame420 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Additional Techniques

--- Hair pulling: As stated, pull from the roots. If you have no idea what your doing doing test it on yourself. Put your hand one the back of your neck, fingers spread part. Raise your hand into your hair till your palm is full in your hairline. Simply make a fist. It's that easy. Now you have control of her head, great use for rough blowjobs too.

--- Choking: As stated top of the neck. DO NOT PRESS ON THE CENTER OF HER NECK TO START. You aren't trying to crush her windpipe. With the curve of your hand that is between your thumb and index finger press from the top of her neck upwards and have your thumb and index finger squeeze the sides. You aim for the artery to slow blood flow.

Finally. Remember the women's cunts push out babies. Its not some delicate glass flower. She want it to be abused, she wants her groin area to be red and swollen, she want to feel like she be fucked, not like she be pampered. Be a fucking man.

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She want it to be abused, she wants her groin area to be red and swollen, she want to feel like she be fucked, not like she be pampered. Be a fucking man.

LOL awesome. I read this in a thick slavic accent

[–]CaptainWasHere 6 points7 points  (1 child)

This. Every single girl I've been with the last 10 years has wanted it rough. If I ask them about it or they bring it up or I just go for it, the answer is always the same. They want to let go of inhibitions and be ravaged.

I used to think that there was "porn sex" and "real sex". No true! They want what (at least most) of what you're jerking to.

Use your nails. Pull hair hair. Bite her neck. Slap her thighs. Tie her up!

I have toys and straps on my bed at all times. 100% of the new girls seeing my (basic) toys are intrigued. Not one has walked away.

Be. Her. Fantasy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)


i'm so glad we're getting this reaction

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Guys interested in this topic may also find my Field Guide to submissive women and my Bondage 101 article of interest.

Uncle Vasya’s Guide to Submissive Women

Of Human Bondage – Uncle Vasya’s Guide for Men Who Like To Tie Up Young Ladies.

You're welcome.


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[–]elevul 17 points18 points  (0 children)

No, you need to lift harder, eat better and sleep more.

[–]LabRat314 19 points20 points  (2 children)

You can't lift 120lbs? Bro....

[–]ponkyol 28 points29 points  (0 children)

have you tried not being weak?

[–]EsWaffle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

WTF no, get stronger 62 kg are nothing.

[–]toneroma 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If there was one valuable thing I took away from my brief foray with formal "kink", it was the idea that, if a woman wants me to "rape" her, then she has to give me explicit consent to do so, either written or texted - preferably both, followed by confirmation after the fact. The more I've participated in this, the more formal I've gotten with it - and I am not afraid to lay it the fuck out.

Seriously, if you are ever going to participate in a rape fantasy, then you should be able to show in court that she consented to being "raped" as a form of sexual play in every instance that it took place.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

back when I appeased such nonsense I ALWAYS made women come out and say it and text it

you get a lot of women now who think being submissive means dead fishing, just laying there and no selling like Roman Reigns

then they want you to take charge all while moaning no no no stop so they can live out some fantasy all while taking NO responsibility.

I make women openly and verbally accept and acknowledge what's going on. They say "Make me your fuck toy" or "I want to be your little slut" or my favorite "Feed me that big nigger dick"

(seriously girls watch too much porn but I digress)

Make women acknowledge what's going on and what they want.

[–]SpeakerToRedditors 2 points3 points  (6 children)

I'd like to add Growling and grunting.

every women i've slept with loves if i growl or grunt as a fuck them.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

i assumed every man let out visceral grunts of pleasure and dominance as they fucked

are you telling me this isn't so?

[–]SpeakerToRedditors 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Yup, I've been told by women that when they are being fucked by dudes they are silent like in most porn videos.

[–]slayitaintso 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Am I the only one that likes to be dominated by women? Like I'm obviously the stronger one psychically, so what's the point in me acting dominant? it's sexy if the girl is using you as a sex slave. Especially if she's a goddess.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 2 points3 points  (6 children)

there's a lot of men out there who are so dominant in their every day life that they like to be submissive in the bedroom.

calling her a goddess is an absurdity but beyond that the concept is not novel nor frowned upon

[–]slayitaintso 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Thanks for the response. I think you're right that calling her a goddess is an absurdity, but only because in our society she can't pull it off. I've thought about it, if there was a society where one woman ruled because of her divine looks, I would love to be her chosen fuck toy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

There is a society where women rule

It's called black culture in America

Wanna be their fuck toy?

[–]supremelummox 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Had a girl that haven't done rough sex before and doesn't really like the idea of it? Did she start to like it?

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Never once in my life with kne exception

Former rape victim couldn't do it rough without panic attacks

[–]mehdreamer 2 points3 points  (6 children)

We need a good safeword for rape fantasies
A simple "Stop" won't do it. Also, if you have to sign an agreement paper for keeping shit legal, so be it

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

this is why i don't do rape fantasies anymore

[–]1ToSeeAndToHear 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Simple color system. Yellow is hold on, back off. Red is full stop. Blue is technical, like have to shit and don't want to shit on the bed.

[–]NietzscheExplosion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yup, I made the especially freaky women text what they wanted and this was before the Jian Ghomeshi trial. Cover your ass in everything these days.

[–]jerry_rigger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Stop light. Green = good Yellow = slow / ease off Red = hard stop

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What is this?

[–]NietzscheExplosion 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I agree with everything you said.

These days cover your ass. Get it in writing somehow (Text, email , voice record) whatever you gotta do.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (2 children)

ironically being misogynistic themselves---the girls who want rape fantasies the most are the ones Feminists hold up as icons: the lawyers, and doctors, and Cal Tech Engineers

A very subtle irony because irony is what you would least expect. I would expect the women who most repress their natural feminity are the ones who demand hard anal and a brown sanchez.

you're fucking a very unstable woman so you probably shouldn't commit to her long term.

FTFY- AWALT, especially successful womyn.

[–]ecosci 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yea doin it rough makes you see clearly how women really are and once you get used to rough sex and making here worship your d*ck it becomes boring plus she gets clingy and jealous and will ruin relationships with friends and family just take her when you think its ok dont have a gameplan its not primal.

[–]chances_are_ur_a_fag 2 points3 points  (3 children)

my recent ex of over 3 years was into all things rough, best girl I've had an ltr with as I'm into very very rough play. I did literally anything I wanted, anything. have days worth of footage and pictures (lots of that is on a tumblr blog and my fetlife). prior to her, pretty much most girls I fucked were into some sort of degradation. and it's not even that I specifically sought out girls like that, sure many yes, but others just happened, which leads me to believe that petty much all of them are deviant little sluts. if she's not like that with you then you haven't brought it out of her to be like that with you.

[–]ingenjor 1 point2 points  (5 children)

This here is probably the biggest truth bomb I've experienced in adult life. Ever since I started dating after my last relationship, I've met so many women who not only enjoy rough sex, they flat out tell me that's what they like. So now I believe it's the norm. Finally.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

welcome to the world behind the curtain my man

it's nice in here

[–]Less_Offensive 1 point2 points  (3 children)

"Nice" is the last word I'd use to describe it. It's a screaming pit of hell and nihilism, but it sure is full of pussy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

yes, being informed and knowledgeable is usually depressing because you see the bleak, savageness of the world at large

but it's nice to know it's real

[–]Banned_For_Opinion 1 point2 points  (2 children)

All 50 shades of grey teaches girls is to find a rich dude and do anything you can to get him. Even if it means being tied up and beaten... All these fake kinky girls running around now saying they're freaks when they just associate BDSM with wealth and security now... COOL...

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Twilight and 50 Shades are the same thing

Average, vapid, personality less brunette magically wins heart of Rich, powerful, handsome, dominating white man.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Totally agree... dealt with this a lot from girls and it seems to be near universal and it's been a part of the sexuality of the best girls I've known. I'm now a bit wary and suspicious if this isn't a turn-on for them.

One really helpful tip to add to this article:

A big part of the fantasy/need/pleasure is the feeling of not being responsible for the sex act itself. She doesn't feel slutty if she had no choice in the matter. In fact if she actually tried to stop it, she is a pure, good, nice girl and can feel wholesome. While having screaming orgasms like she's never experienced before. The being forced can relax her concerns so much she'll come easier/faster/harder and better and verbally thank you afterwards.

But while she wants to say "no no no" and pretend to mean it, that's blurring the lines too far into a rape conviction. You can't say "Yes, I know I had consent because even though she was screaming no and clawing at my skin, deep down I know she wanted it". Imagine how that sounds in court, while the willing slut from the month before is sitting cross legged and innocent, sobbing with shame and vulnerability in front of the jury.

It shouldn't be your job to work out if "no means no or no means yes or yes means no" or second guess yourself. But it is, and that's life. You have to be realistic about this. She can and will change her mind about what really happened, especially if she falls hard for you and doesn't get enough attention.

So my suggestion on how to exploit this aspect of female sexuality for your own benefit without getting butt-raped by Bubba three times a day for 15 years in the state pen: you TALK like you're raping her, but ACT like you're not. Lots of verbal build up and touching. "I'm going to do what I want with you, whether you like it or not" ... "I'm going to hold you down and choke you while I have my way with you" ... "Are we going to have nice sex tonight, or do I have to tie you down and force you into it?" (I like asking questions where both yes and no lead to sex).

With a verbal lead up to it like that, the actual sex won't need any force at all. She'll be so turned on that the actual forcing won't be needed. It's very important that she verbally/physically consents to the start of sex before you get rough and forceful, and that you're not really raping her, especially the first few times.

Get it all on camera if you can - women can and do change their mind later in order to try to retrospectively reclaim their social virginity and you being in prison for 15 years trying never to pick up the soap doesn't matter one iota to her compared to what people think of her.

So... don't do (physical) rape fantasies without proof of your innocence the first few times you have sex with a girl... better to tease her about the possibility than to actually do it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These girls piss me off, the ones who think being dominant means me doing ALL the work and them just sitting there and being lazy.

Even worse is the ones who CONSTANTLY do the "no no no no don't do that" and then when I stop get visibly angry and try and touch me. They ALWAYS want to be taken forcibly but don't want to admit what they're doing.

stay away from these women

[–]bountyhunterdjango 1 point2 points  (2 children)

One of the best posts I've seen on this sub, for real I had a realisation when I was about 16 that every girl I'd been with had a kinky submissive side, now I use that to my advantage so hard and getting girls wet is a piece of cake

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[–]smfc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i think OP was jerkin his cock while writing that shit

[–]Sleepless_Devil 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If you feel uneasy or fearful about taking control during sex, you're a pussy who is apparently wanting to be fucked, not fuck girls right.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

you are the leader in all ways. women want a man who can lead them to happiness, a better future, and a great orgasm

if you want a sexually experienced woman to teach you and fuck you that's fine, not every man can be an alpha.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

You said all women love rough sex. Then you said women that love rough sex are unstable and you shouldn't be with them. Ergo you shouldn't commit to any woman long term.

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

don't do that. don't do the regressive logical fallacy move.

All women love rough sex.

Rough sex has levels like everything else

Women at the high end of the scale are unstable and should be avoided.

I shouldn't have to explain this

[–]RedMoonAscendant 2 points3 points  (1 child)

There is a constant influx of aspie kids here. You will have to explain the basics over and over.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah. He said there is fucked up shit some women like that he wouldn't want in a LTR.

[–]maje5678 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think he was saying that you shouldnt commit to a women that has a rape fantasy, less intense domination fantasies should be okay.

[–]sugnahok 1 points1 points [recovered]

Great guide, thanks OP.

I don't understand the "digging nails into her lower back and escalating upwards", do you mean increase the pressure on my nails, or move upwards along her back?

[–]Endorsed ContributorTheeRyanGrey[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry I should've phrased that better.

You start at the bottom and go upwards, applying more pressure each time.

Women. Fucking. Love. This.

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