Red Pill Example[X-post] "My BF broke up with me because I booked a week vacation with my EX in Amsterdam" or "How my BF held frame" (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by taracus

EDIT: Automod got me for brigading, back again

Link to op: https://archive.is/uULD2

Summary: OP (girlfriend) gets asked by an "ancient ex" to meet up in Amsterdam for a week while he is there for work (he lives in Italy and she in the UK). She books the ticket before mentioning anything to her BF because:

they were on sale for a ridiculously low price on the dates that he would be there, so I jumped at the opportunity.

Boyfriend breaks up with her without loosing frame and even 'that' subreddit calls her out for being wrong.

Body: So they've dated for 6 months and she thinks that going alone to Amsterdam to meet up with an "ex from ancient history who is more like a best-friend" is a good idea. She starts with the excuses even in the title.

Her boyfriend shows exactly how a situation like this are to be handled, no harsh words, no complaining about not going simply holding frame:

Pete seemed cool with it at first but after a few days asked me if there was any history between us. I was honest and told him there was. He didn't seem too bothered and eventually asked if I thought visiting an ex in another country was appropriate whilst in a relationship. I explained to him how Dave and my relationship wasn't like that and that we were strictly platonic. He didn't seem to really react, he just gave me a look that was...sarcastic, I suppose, would be the best way to describe it.

Edit: "he just gave me a look that was...sarcastic" -> "dont need to talk, just grin" (c) Endorsed TRP-philosophy.

First he calmly suspects that this is more than platonic and asks her and her hamster believes that going a week to Amsterdam with an ex to do drugs and partying is a sign of a "platonic friendship" and feels safe confessing that he is actually an ex. He then proceeds to ask if she think its appropriate (not telling her its not, just vetting to see if she is really LTR material).

She then pulls out the "strong independent black woman" card as a response:

I then told him that I wouldn't be controlled and hated men that thought they owned me and could tell me what to do. I told him I was free to see who I wanted and that I found his lack of trust in me upsetting, disrespectful and, perhaps, a sign of future abusiveness. I now realise that this may have been a bad thing to say. Again, he didn't really react so I thought that was the end of it.

Here most men would have caved, given her reasons not go, told her not to go or even worse, supported the idea of the trip because nobody wants to be an "abusive boyfriend". Her boyfriend on the other hand shows exactly how to hold frame he even explains it to her:

Then, last night, he came around to my flat and broke up with me! I asked him why and tried to get him to explain himself and he told me that my going away was to see "another man" a deal-breaker, that he'd been in this type of situation before and wasn't going to go through it again. I asked him if this was an ultimatum - I hate ultimatums, they are tools of abusers - and he said "No, its not an ultimatum. I've decided to break up with you. I have not presented you with any options. I just came to say goodbye." Before I could say or do anything more, he kissed me on the forehead, said goodbye and walked away. He didn't seem angry, just...sad.

No harsh words, no ultimatums, no anger, just HELD FRAME. He realise a women that cant show her relationship the respect it deserves dont deserve him and he simply lets her go.

Here comes some bonus:

To make matters worse, I told Dave about what happened and he replied "Oh well, guess that means we can have even more fun then! ;o)" He didn't care about my relationship and my pain - he just wanted a hookup buddy and someone to get stoned with whilst he was in Amsterdam.

Suprise, her ex-boyfriend didnt invite her to Amsterdam to party to have a platonic friendship re-kindle. Obviously both men in this story knew exactly what was up but she comes to the Internet asking for advice of what went wrong.

I tried calling Pete today, about an hour ago, and he actually answered! He told me that I should look to be with someone who wasn't so abusive. He said, "Please stop calling me - this is over. Have a nice trip to Amsterdam" Then he BLOCKED me! How could he do that to someone he loves? Is he over reacting or was I? What should I do now? Was I wrong?

"How could he do that to someone he loves?" she asks herself without any self-reflection (until even the Internet told her that yes, you were wrong).

Lessons learnt:

  • Women believe in their hamsters, they are not lying when they say they "didnt cheat" or "it just happened", just because she believes her own lies dont mean you have to.

  • Hold frame, even if your girlfriend is planning on going on a fuck-trip to Amsterdam with an EX.

  • AWALT?

[–]1empatheticapathetic 449 points450 points  (32 children)

Pete is a hero. Good on him.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 216 points217 points  (29 children)

He deserves the Red Pill Badge of Frame.

[–][deleted] 106 points107 points  (22 children)

Who would win between him, and the rich guy who made potato soup and watched netflix?

[–]refusewool 31 points32 points  (15 children)

What's the potato soup Netflix guy a reference from?

[–]taracus[S] 86 points87 points  (9 children)

Fiance breaks up with boyfriend because he lives "frugal and have no ambitions", a few months after breaking up her friends tell her he is loaded and she cant understand why he never showed her the money or spent any money on her.

Sure if you sort the right subreddit by top or search it youll find it, I cant remember where it was posted though.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 71 points72 points  (7 children)

That was cross-posted here. If I am not mistaken, that was the lumberjack guy who played guitar and wasn't "ambitious" enough, drove a beater car or something, so she dumped him and he went "meh" and wished her well, etc. She told one of his friends and the guy chuckled and said she dumped a guy who owned thousands of acres of land and was worth a shit-ton of cash.

EDIT: It was this guy

[–]SACRlion 19 points20 points  (4 children)

I can't find the link, but there was a follow-up post a year later from the bitch where she termed the reason for the breakup to be "life issues, wanting different things, etc." She completely re-wrote the reason for the breakup in her mind.

She went back to the same NYE party she met him at the year before, got all wet and tingly when he hugged her, and then slumped into a deep depression when she realized he was with another girl, and had completely moved on from her. It was greatness.

Just sorry I can't find the follow-up link or archived post.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 19 points20 points  (2 children)

I can't find the link, but there was a follow-up post a year later from the bitch where she termed the reason for the breakup to be "life issues, wanting different things, etc." She completely re-wrote the reason for the breakup in her mind....Just sorry I can't find the follow-up link or archived post.

You're welcome.

[–]SACRlion 5 points6 points  (1 child)

You are a gentleman and a scholar, sir, take your upvote.

And it was worse than I remembered, she accused him of being 'dishonest' about 'life things'.

[–]CornyHoosier 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Girl came on Reddit to complain about her very wealthy boyfriend who recently broke up with her. She was mad because she found out he was wealthy after she broke up with him for not wanting to go out on a bunch of dates and buy her shit. Her finding out he was wealthy turned her smugness of the breakup into anger.

The reasoning for the breakup was that he often wanted to spend his personal time watching Netflix with her and made her meals (specifically made her soups; because when people make you food, you should complain about it).

Best part was that she found out later was that he had, without her knowledge, paid a bunch of medical bills for some family pet that were ill (something along those lines) and told her mom to keep it a secret. I guess even her mom told her it was stupid to have broke up with him.

[–]IronManAlan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He also paid for her fathers funeral, but told her mum to keep it a secret as he didn't want to be know as "the rich benefactor"

[–]Mintaka7 10 points11 points  (1 child)

But how good was the potato soup?

[–]The_BeardedGentleman 25 points26 points  (0 children)

heard it was valued at 50% of his income.

[–]30fretibanezguy 11 points12 points  (1 child)

He gets a spot in the Hall of Frame.

[–]NaughtyAudio 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think we need a Hall of Frame.

[–]pokerb 659 points660 points  (20 children)

If you still can't be Chad, at least be Pete

[–]Lsegundo 247 points248 points  (11 children)

I nominate "Until you can be Chad, at least be Pete" for a new TRP slogan!

[–]Si_guey 112 points113 points  (9 children)

I feel like Pete. Not an alpha yet aware enough to not fall for a woman's bullshit

[–]thebadmanpuntdbaxter 102 points103 points  (7 children)

I think we're all pete's. Chad is just the dreamful archetype we all strive for

[–]clouds_on_acid 57 points58 points  (6 children)

Pete did beat one of the toughest challenges: willingly giving up pussy, even when you don't have backups available (assuming he wasn't talking to other girls while dating)

I hate to say it, but if it was me I'd string that relationship on until I found another girl to replace her. Pete is definitely more mature than I...

[–]the_number_2 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Perhaps Chad is TRP in single, plate-spinner mode and Pete is TRP in (semi-)exclusive, LTR mode?

[–]Machismo01 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's all good. At some point you decide that you have a path forward. Career and such going smoothly and you just want someone to share in it. Not a plate but someone quality and worthy of respect. You go on dozens of first dates until you find one even worth a second. You court her (seriously) since you want to find a worthy mate. Maybe she passes. Maybe she fails. You drop her if she does. You don't want to wast yours or her time. That is Pete. Eventually you get some comfortable stability and you have the quiet confidence that befits a middle-aged man.

[–]p00pey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

not everyone needs someone at all times. Lots of dudes, especially when coming out of a LTR, will take some time off. Stop putting pussy on a pedistal brah...

[–]nevva_Again 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Pete did beat one of the toughest challenges: willingly giving up pussy, even when you don't have backups available

this is true abundance mentality.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 19 points20 points  (3 children)

Pete and Bring the Skittles guy should high five.

[–]bigderivative 675 points676 points  (125 children)

"They are the tools of abusers"

This guy dodged so many bullets at once.

[–][deleted] 176 points177 points  (12 children)

You don't want to continue being my boyfriend while I go on a vacation to see my ex that I didn't invite you on?!


[–]Eenjoy 35 points36 points  (8 children)

No kidding even if they were just friends and nothing was going to happen which I believe she wanted to f*** him anyways, or at least test the waters. It is messed up in a relationship.

"Oh hey I already put in for a vacation with someone else. So you don't have to save your vacation for me anymore"

If my GF did that even for her sister and didn't at least try to include me I would be upset.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (5 children)

Yeah, it's pretty fucking selfish and a clear sign that the girl doesn't understand how healthy female-male relationships work. Also, it may be a sign that she just dated losers most of the time who tolerated this kind of behavior from an LTR.

"Oh yeah Beta Ted is soooo chill he like doesn't get jealous of my jacked guy-friend Alpha Tony when we have our sleepovers together. He's such a great guy!"

[–]Ibex3D 17 points18 points  (4 children)

One of my closest friends is a female but she has a boyfriend. We get drunk together, smoke together, she even slept in my bed last weekend. Now, I have literally zero interest in her. I have never made a move and will never make a move on her. Realistically, there is nothing wrong with this situation for her boyfriend but he has only met me 3 times. There is no way he could know that I'm not trying to make a move on her. I just can not get over how he is just cool with his girl coming over to my place and getting all sorts of intoxicated and then sleeping here. If I were him this would never fucking fly. It's amazing what some guys will put up with

[–]tb87670 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Even if it's true that she's not doing anything with the other guy, and I will be honest it's probably true half the time we hear this, I still wouldn't let it fly. It's not appropriate and everyone knows it, the woman just wants her cake and eat it too. They want the male friends they can play around with inappropriately as well as their boyfriend not being jealous. It's sad so many guys deal with it. I said no to one of these situations before and honestly forgot the gal's name.

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    [–]JourneymanTRP 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    Yeah, that abusive ass wouldnt let her ride her ex's dick

    [–]cariboo_j 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Basically any girl who says they're "good friends" or "best friends" with any of their exes is not LTR material.

    I can understand if they run in the same circles and see each other at group events or something but if they regularly hangout one on one forget it.

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      [–]ChirpChirp169 76 points77 points  (10 children)

      I've never seen anyone move that fast

      [–]Lifting4Gainz 67 points68 points  (1 child)

      And according to OP:

      I really thought I'd found "the one" with him.

      Confirmed: Pete is Neo.

      [–]WolfofAnarchy 22 points23 points  (3 children)

      I've never seen anyone navigate so nimbly

      [–]offthebeatmeoff 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      Like some sort of centipede

      [–]Ibex3D 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      I have only seen one other navigate so nimbly but he is The One Above All so us mere mortals can only hope to reach Pete levels.

      [–]1v1crown 232 points233 points  (22 children)

      Holy shit RIGHT!? She said abuse 3 times in that post she is the epitome of why you should be afraid of women.

      [–]2insickness 208 points209 points  (15 children)

      I was exclusively dating a girl for a while. We were out with friends and she started talking with one of my friends. I chimed in on the conversation and she pretty much ignored me.

      Later, she turned her attention back to me and tried to kiss me. I pulled away like I was Neo dodging a bullet in the matrix.

      Later, in the cab on the way home, she expressed her anger at how I reacted to her trying to kiss me. She said that the way I reacted was "violent." I ended things then and there. You can never trust a woman who is digging for reasons to call you violent/abusive.

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        [–]2Overkillengine 25 points26 points  (0 children)

        Sounds like they were smart enough to realize that if she would do that you, they were next the moment they didn't pander to her either.

        [–]2insickness 39 points40 points  (1 child)

        Victimization ideology has infected all areas of culture. People who aren't allowed to identify as victims (whites, males, heteros, etc.) are scared to death of being labeled with shame words (racist, sexist, homophobe, abuser, etc.)

        In my youth I would buckle at the first moment a woman cried victim. I'm sure most men do. Women know this and many are keen on taking advantage it. Unfortunately men these days need to be very politically aware--or redpill aware--to counter these accusations.

        I'm dominant but hyper aware of boundaries so whenever a woman pulls anything like this, I am automatically done with her. It is a sign of inner rot. If you don't end it, later in the relationship she will start to make demands under the guise of equalism. "Why are you always in charge?" "Things should be 50/50" "You should compromise just as much as me" etc. And when you do compromise, she loses respect for you. Even though she says she wants you to compromise, her attraction dries up faster than a desert mirage when you do.

        [–]TryDoingSomethingNew 65 points66 points  (4 children)

        Sounds like a really bad night for you. To add insult to injury, she attempted to blame shift and make you out to be something you're not.

        Good on you for putting that dumping that bitch.

        [–]1jb_trp 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        she attempted to blame shift and make you out to be something you're not.

        You have to hold frame, or else these women will fuck with your mind and take a big dump in your soul. The hamstering, the solipsism, the accusations of "abuse" and "violence..." They will rob you of your sanity if you let them.

        [–]do_it_or_leave 15 points16 points  (4 children)

        Wise man. Many wouldn't skip the pussy.

        [–]WolfofAnarchy 22 points23 points  (0 children)

        RP > Pussy

        More to life than pussy.

        [–]cannibaloxfords 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Many wouldn't skip the pussy.

        Which is such a massive symbol of weakness.

        The last chick I had a 6 month thing with, I was like, "This is how its going to be, the rules, your responsibilities in terms of sex, cooking, cleaning, and my usual daily schedule....if you don't like it then fuck off to someone else." As I opened the door and showed her the way out.

        I literally had to move after that to get away from her lol, cause no one ever laid it out like that to her. She house wifed it up in the kitched, and porned it up in the sack, and then I was out when she started catching feelings and wanting to move in

        [–]ecrvnr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I had a girlfriend like that. My most recent ex actually. Every time we were having a conversation that was moving towards somewhat heated topics (politics, feminism, stuff like that), she would most of the time parrot feminist memes such as wage gap and the likes, and accuse me of "stepping all over her" when I disagreed with her. Terribly fucking annoying and it also makes it impossible to take the person seriously.

        [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 23 points24 points  (2 children)

        Afraid of them? Fuck that. Cover your ass. CYA.

        Don't let them get in the position to fuck you over like that. This guy did the right thing. Next. If any bitch accuses me or likens me to an abuser, she is fucking gone. Bitch I treat you better than anyone you've every been with, don't put up with your bullshit, lead you, dominate you, and make that pussy wet, and you want to call me abusive and try to manipulate me with it? Gtfo.

        [–]1v1crown 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        No shit dude ofc you next at the first word of abuse. That is standard. But girls don't always outright tell you they feel abused, they go straight to cops and get you fucked. Im just saying they are a mess of thoughts and react on feels, like we all know, so you really have to be always on guard.

        [–]spacecase89 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I think her true feelings usually trickle out occasionally, but you have to be aware of when it happens or you'll miss it.

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          [–]royal_fucktard 80 points81 points  (4 children)

          Holding frame like he did becomes much easier with experience and age. As he said, he had been through it before and had already decided he would never go through it again. A man of his word.

          [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

          Indeed. If you're here, chances are you fall into one of two groups. Either you never got laid, or you had some bad experiences. You're honestly better off if you fall into the second category. You know first hand that she's not worth the effort. You know first hand that AWALT applies to the same girl who tells you she loves you on a daily basis. Always be ready to walk away.

          [–]1jb_trp 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          You know first hand that she's not worth the effort. You know first hand that AWALT applies to the same girl who tells you she loves you on a daily basis. Always be ready to walk away.

          Do you ever think there's too ready to walk away? I next girls relentlessly, even plates. I've slept with and gone out with more women since finding TRP two years ago than the previous 30 years combined. In that time, I've met maybe 2 women that I thought would make decent LTRs.

          My time is too valuable, I just don't care to waste it when 99% of these women have nothing more to offer than a warm hole between their legs and (sometimes) they cook me food.

          I definitely fall into the second category you mention. I've had a few LTRs when I was bluepill that ended horribly. I do believe that's 100x advantageous than the first category. I just wonder if I've seen too much and just avoid wasting my time on worthless women?


          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          I don't think there is a such thing as too ready to walk away, as long as you are patient enough to game a girl you meet at the bar on a night out. Like you said, your time is too valuable to deal with the BS that many women bring. All that matters is you are happy.

          [–][deleted] 62 points63 points  (18 children)

          She probably was going to bang the dude in Amsterdam. Now she probably feels different, her boyfriend showed alpha behavior by walking away. You could tell she got the pringle tingles. The funny thing is bitch is still going to Amsterdam, there's no trip cancellation or anything, from what I read, outstanding in her field.

          [–]TryDoingSomethingNew 55 points56 points  (6 children)

          Absolutely she was, or it would be the "it just happened" excuse. Of course, she'd never admit it unless backed into a corner.

          A really pathetic, but perfect example of some western women today.

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            [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (3 children)

            You'd never convince her that it could have happened. In her mind she's completely innocent and wouldn't have done it. Then, when she woke up half naked and half stoned after getting railed by him the night before it would just be a drunk mistake that the bf doesn't need to know about.

            [–]-The-Pussy-Whisperer 8 points9 points  (1 child)

            With the "It was a different country, so it doesn't count" hamster leading whatever excuse she spits at our hero.

            [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            I had an ex do that. Went on a trip to Europe with a friend for a month and came back distant. It was basically what started me on this "horrendous and misogynistic" sub. Girl was ready to live in denial for years to come. The moment I found out I kicked her out obviously (literally an 8 minute turn around from when she told me to when her shit was out my door), but I was shocked at how ready she was to pretend it meant nothing.

            [–]TryDoingSomethingNew 8 points9 points  (0 children)

            I should elaborate more: It is extremely likely, as I see with her sense of entitlement, that once she was there she'd at some point decide to have "fun."

            And rationalize it away, of course...

            [–]Casanova-Quinn 18 points19 points  (6 children)

            Yep. In this type of situation, the relationship is already over. There's no saving it, because there's only 3 outcomes.

            1. BF trusts GF and lets her go. She fucks her ex.

            2. BF complains to GF but lets her go. She fucks her ex.

            3. BF breaks up with GF before her trip. She fucks her ex.

            Option 3 is the only scenario where the BF leaves the situation with dignity and makes his GF think twice about her decision.

            [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (3 children)

            and makes his GF think twice about her decision.

            Forget this bit. Doesn't matter. Option 3 is the situation where he gets out of his awful relationship. Thinking about how it makes her feel is backwards. She doesn't matter anymore.

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            She could of cancalled the trip if she really cared for pete. Whats an airline ticket over a relationship?

            [–]Jani1157 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            Sure she was, looking at the facts she bought her own ticket. The ex didn't pay for it or lay anything out for her, she did the work to go see him. This isn't some insignificant guy to her, plus this is her ex she's already been fucked by him before. This girl isn't that stupid to be surprised by him saying "now we can have more fun" we're her audience and she has to look good in front of us.

            [–]1PantsonFire1234 27 points28 points  (6 children)

            When my and my ex broke up she expected me to react differently. Next up I got a whole avalanche of 'you want me backs', 'you want to fuck me stills' 'you are getting jealous aren't yous' and 'yous are mads'.

            I wasn't at all, kept neutral, encouraged her to move on and said I held no ill will. The last time she talked to me I got told "you want me back don't you, but I have no interest in you", I told her I didn't and her response was to angrily roast me out.

            Figured there was no talking to this girl and been ignoring her since. To this day I think the crazy bitch still thinks I'm angry. Women will do anything to hamster away their insecurities.

            [–]clouds_on_acid 42 points43 points  (13 children)

            Goddammit I'm dealing with a girl calling me abusive because I think it's fucked up she gets drunk or does coke with guy friends at 2am (I don't do drugs...anymore). No we aren't dating, but we are exclusive (afaik) and I don't ever physically hurt or threaten her.

            This post made me realize why the girl claims I'm abusive...it's because she wants the freedom to do whatever she wants without the consequences (me leaving her). By calling me abusive the blame is shifted onto me and I'm forced to either back down (which I did) or leave her. I think I will not be talking to her after this post. I feel like kind of a bitch compared to the alpha boyfriend in the story...

            [–]Kumrag 25 points26 points  (1 child)

            deleted What is this?

            [–]Jzeezy420 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            No question. I've seen this play out with more than one of my bros and their ex with late night come binges (and another bro who was banging the cheating girl). She's getting railed hard by them, pun intended.

            [–]SACRlion 12 points13 points  (2 children)

            I think it's fucked up she gets drunk or does coke with guy friends at 2am

            Reasonable to think it is fucked up that she is staying out, doing drugs, and fucking other guys in the wee hours of the morning.

            we are exclusive (afaik)

            No, you're not, and you know it. You just admitted it when you said she is out playing cokewhore and fucking guys at 2 am.

            [–]clouds_on_acid 10 points11 points  (0 children)

            I needed that sanity slap to the face, glad I stopped by TRP today

            [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

            That was spectacular. Maybe this is the best example of holding frame in history ;)

            [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 46 points47 points  (6 children)

            Don't leave off the important part.

            I hate ultimatums, they are tools of abusers

            Translation: I will not accept consequences for my actions, because that is abuse. So don't try to put any rules on this relationship.

            [–]TrumpBull 42 points43 points  (5 children)

            The real redpill is he didn't give her an ultimatum. He let her be free in what she wants to do, and from that freedom he can judge her real character. He correctly realized this bitch could be wined and dined to cheat on him, so he left her.

            If he gave her an ultimatum and she stayed, it doesn't change the fact that she wanted to go and wanted to cheat on him.

            [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 10 points11 points  (3 children)

            Her use of the word "ultimatum" is so very hamstery. It is like saying someone should keep a faithful to a contract is an ultimatum. If he presented her with options, that's an ultimatum and highly retarded. Telling her that her actions would break the existing deal is not an ultimatum. What a dumb twat.

            [–]TrumpBull 13 points14 points  (1 child)

            Exactly. Honestly what this guy did was fucking amazing on so many levels. He gave her the illusion that she could do what ever the fuck she wants. Then if she throws up enough red flags or does something that is dishonest, he just dumps her right away. This is next level shit to weed out disloyal hoes. It goes with the hole mindset of always be closing, even if your trying to find a long term girlfriend. Because she wont tell you she is a ho, you have to test her.

            [–]NietzscheExplosion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            She just being pre-emptively hypocritical, She was never going to back down from the trip (though he didn't ask her to), she was the one issuing the ultimatum "I'm going on a trip with my ex, you can't stop me".

            [–]CornyHoosier 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            Great point. One of my favorite lessons learned while on TRP is allowing the other person to hang themselves with the rope.

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              [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 11 points12 points  (1 child)

              That is the go to for them now. They're so accustomed to getting their asses kissed, when you don't is abusive in their fragile minds.

              [–]clouds_on_acid 14 points15 points  (0 children)

              It sucks, these types of women claiming abuse ruins the legitimacy of women who are actually being abused. Never know what the real story is anymore...

              [–]MasterGoshinki 18 points19 points  (4 children)

              no kidding, ive been there, almost lost my career because of it. never again. the second a woman im interested in tells me shes been abused, instead of pity her, i am forced to take it as a red flag.

              [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 10 points11 points  (3 children)

              Same. It comes out of her mouth, I develop an exit strategy.

              [–]clouds_on_acid 8 points9 points  (1 child)

              Quote from a girl to me today: "im a brat, im used to getting what i want and guys doing whatever for me, sorry" (I wish I was joking)

              I was mad at her for saying extremely disrespectful things to me, and she didn't even understand that it wasn't ok to say mean things because she's so used to guys keeling over so they can get the pussy.

              [–]naptakerr 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              Like Neo in the Matrix, Jesus. There are so many things that scream "gtfo" in her rationalization and behavior

              [–]Lifting4Gainz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              Pete dodging bullets.

              Seeing as how this it TRP, it just made so much sense, haha.

              [–]Dragarius 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              I mean... That's the only thing she's right about. Ultimatums are terrible tools to be using from either gender. If a woman offers me an ultimatum or it's over, I'm just gonna say it's over.

              [–]ecrvnr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              Yeah holy fuck, the way she instantly resorts to 4th wave feminist/victim rhetoric the second she gets called out on her bullshit. To think there are guys out there stuck with women like that...

              [–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table 209 points210 points  (39 children)

              This illustrates the importance of stoicism and detachment when presented with tests such as these. Had the boyfriend reacted emotionally when she told him about the trip, she would've felt justified in her actions and her trigger-happy slinging of the "abuser" label. What's more, she would've likely lied about the nature of her relationship with the ex and only trickle-truthed him months after she had slept with her ex.

              Instead, Pete maintained his calm and dodged a massive bullet. Kudos to him.

              Also, Dave should stop talking himself out of getting laid.

              [–]prodigy2throw 110 points111 points  (20 children)

              Yup Dave fumbled hard before the goal line there.

              [–]clouds_on_acid 56 points57 points  (4 children)

              Yeah...like..you got a girl going to another country for you...she's clearly down, if she tells you something amazing like her boyfriend broke up with her, act like it's horrible and give her comfort/empathy...even though you're secretly excited

              Though it is hilarious that Dave blew his load early, because she now gets to realize what's really going on instead of lying to herself

              [–]confirmSuspicions 19 points20 points  (2 children)

              Plot twist: Dave knows what he said. He's already got 2 other plates lined up in that area code.

              Double-plot twist: Dave is a red pill alpha male that is going to Amsterdam with his girlfriend and never intended on getting together with this chick.

              [–]overwatchtinder 17 points18 points  (1 child)

              triple PT: dave has no idea about the situation, it was pete pretending to be him the whole time to shit test her

              [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 55 points56 points  (7 children)

              Dave should stop talking himself out of getting laid.

              He thought he was "in" when she agreed to the trip with him to Hamsterdam. Rookie mistake.

              [–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table 33 points34 points  (0 children)

              He didn't understand the need to diffuse her hamsterbomb.

              [–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (4 children)

              He was. She's pretending he wasn't.

              [–]Joseph_the_Carpenter 12 points13 points  (0 children)

              She was going to fuck him for sure, but she also wanted to hang on to her stable boyfriend. When that fell through I think she was hoping for a kind of branch swing back to her ex, or have it both ways and make the trip to Amsterdam then come back and reconcile with her boyfriend with whatever excuses she could rationalize about the trip. Problem was Dave showed his hand so she figured out she was just going to be a fucktoy and not a potential girlfriend.

              [–][deleted]  (1 child)


                [–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (4 children)

                Yep. He pretty much knows it's over the moment she says she's going on the trip, their conversation was just the confirmation. No need to get angry at that point, she's demanding his submission and Pete has no interested in submitting. It could be anything, but once your girl begins to demand your submission, and she will, you have no choice in the matter, the relationship is as good as over.

                [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (3 children)

                well, he did give her an out. Had she came to her senses on his appropriate comment, it would have worked out just fine. She may have been too dense to know the boundary before... She knew it now though.

                [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                If it's real, she knew that it was unacceptable, but it was a big shit test.

                There comes a point for alpha/type A men who are intelligent when you just have to cut the cord, and this was that point. Simply put, this is a RPed man to some extent and he understands (again to some extent that's hard to know) that women will always attempt to make him submit and that it's either her way or the highway. You can't game your woman for life, you're either her beta or you're of no use to her. A genuine alpha who is healthy will never allow himself to be truly submissive to a woman, it's highly unnatural. This guy is intelligent, so he knows that once a woman starts pushing his boundaries that no amount of game or what TRP considers 'alpha' will change this.

                A lot of people in this subreddit are confused at the idea of an alpha being cheated on, even though it happens. It's kind of brushed under the carpet because they think that if you're just good enough she'll be nice and submissive and not cheat and whatever. The truth is that women require a beta, they need a victim to leech onto, not an alpha. Women like fucking alphas but what they truly truly want is a high status beta. There's nothing more attractive to a woman than a high status beta, nothing! So this guy knows that even if he does 'put her in her place' so to speak, that she won't be satisfied. She doesn't care about this guy who's going to meet her in Amsterdam, it's a shit-test to see if he's going to be her beta. It's a lose-lose situation for an alpha guy because if he submits, then he's gone against his nature, and if he doesn't submit then he's demonstrated that he's an unfit mate.

                All you can hope for if you genuinely want a LTR with a woman is to be the best beta possible, the most attractive beta. If you're a beta you still can't allow her to go, but you must submit by not dumping that slut for even considering it, let alone doing it without your permission. If you don't dump her immediately like this guy did, you're her beta. So no, it's not about her 'knowing her boundaries'. Women have no boundaries, it's about testing his boundaries.

                [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                the boundaries were his, I agree.

                her boundaries are only what her social circle will shame her for. Was a lovely quote on that from someone in here a few days back

                [–]Snazzy_Serval 9 points10 points  (3 children)

                This wasn't a test. It was just a woman being stupid and stubborn.

                The guy reacted perfectly and she got what she deserved. Her ass kicked out the door.

                [–][deleted]  (2 children)


                  [–]almagest 121 points122 points  (1 child)

                  When she said "I told him I was free to see who I wanted" she forgot to add "without any consequences". Sure, she can go party it up with an ex and most assuredly fuck him, but any man with a spine is going to dump her at that point.

                  [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 34 points35 points  (0 children)

                  I told Dave about what happened and he replied "Oh well, guess that means we can have even more fun then! ;o)" He didn't care about my relationship and my pain - he just wanted A HOOKUP BUDDY ...

                  She accidentally admitted she was going there to fuck him.

                  [–]notadaddy 56 points57 points  (4 children)

                  Man, that was me in my marriage, wife telling me she didn't appreciate me raising my voice at her, accusing me of being like her abusive dad, or me asking her about hanging out late with her "friends" and the controlling accusations would pile on! I never knew not reacting and walking away was an option until I woke up and found TRP. Women love to scare you with that abuser shit because we don't want to be labeled that, or worse, I am terrified of police being involved because of some manipulative threats.

                  [–][deleted] 62 points63 points  (3 children)

                  On single guys their favorite word to try to control you is "creepy". In relationships it's "abuser". It's all about getting what they want at no cost.

                  [–]Jakei34 82 points83 points  (3 children)

                  Pete's a role model for the males overdosed on the BP.

                  [–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

                  Well, guess the blue pill hamster would spin. 'She had never the intentions to have sex in Amsterdam', 'It's not her fault', ... You cannot convert a blue piller if he does not want to.

                  [–]CuntyMcFagNuts69 76 points77 points  (0 children)

                  Men just remember, there is no pussy in the entire world worth trusting this much. Even if this is a troll post, this is a valuable lesson, you aren't bound to anything besides yourself

                  [–][deleted] 75 points76 points  (17 children)

                  I'm impressed at the amount of women shitting on OP. You usually don't see that in that sub.

                  [–]taracus[S] 96 points97 points  (3 children)

                  Because he held frame, no matter what feminist says, they respect a man who respect himself, even if he "doesn't respect women"

                  [–]1InscrutablePUA 35 points36 points  (0 children)

                  Holding frame is an aphrodisiac. Girls will flip like a switch in the presence of a man who knows this shit.

                  [–]RedEyesBlueShades 15 points16 points  (1 child)

                  I think it's more because women know women best. And a "committed relationship" is still something the hamster holds dear. To accept Amsterdam is to accept promiscuity zero which on paper is not good.

                  A battle of the hamsters, if you will.

                  [–]lqtys 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  It's slut shaming, basically.

                  [–]1Sergnb 44 points45 points  (0 children)

                  "Grow up, cancel your flight, and leave both ex's alone and maybe just maybe learn from this experience. You prioritized everyone but your SO in this story. Maybe you shouldn't be in a relationship for a while"

                  Jesus, that's brutal. They weren't pulling any punches huh.

                  [–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (5 children)

                  Sure you do.

                  I warned my last girlfriend her tire had dry rot and needed to be replaced. She blew a tire on the way home that day. her and her friends were pissed at me because I wasn't stern enough when I warned her.

                  Women are masters of redirecting feelings, especially anger.

                  [–][deleted]  (4 children)


                    [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (3 children)

                    The irony of the entire thing as if you were stern with her she'd pissed at you that she didn't have a car and couldn't hang out with her friends.

                    Welcome to my life. Her reasoning (if you want to call it that) was that since I work for a dealership I should have understood how dangerous it was. I did understand how dangerous it was, having experienced two blowouts one at at 85mph in my last car.

                    Then three months after she dumps me for a bar owner, she wrecks her car and asks if I can help her find a new one; since I go to all the wholesale auctions and whatnot. I didn't even bother responding.

                    [–][deleted]  (1 child)


                      [–]2Overkillengine 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                      Because her fucking up so flagrantly shits on any future plausible deniability they might want to take advantage of.

                      [–]trippinallday 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                      Even the white knights are batting for him for once. Beautiful thing to see

                      [–]hamsterbator 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      what's interesting is that if you had posted it from Petes perspective before the breakup, asking "what do I do?", the crowd would have almost certainly lambasted him for being controlling and not having trust in his partner. People respect strength.

                      [–]Badadviceforfree 69 points70 points  (1 child)

                      "What should I do?"

                      "Have you considered calling him abusive for dumping you?"

                      [–]mikazee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      I saw that comment, that person deserves a medal.

                      [–]1theoctopuss 56 points57 points  (3 children)

                      This should be side-bar material. I've had many "ah-ha" moments with potential LTRs similar to Pete's. As soon as you break out the sarcastic smile (in the UK girl's words), it's almost comical how quickly they realize that they fucked up.

                      [–]1PantsonFire1234 24 points25 points  (1 child)

                      Women aren't used to fucking up. They get away with everything nowadays. So when she finally manages to find a man with some balls, the dumping comes at them silently.

                      [–]confirmSuspicions 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                      That moment in the conversation when she's already dumped, but doesn't know it yet.

                      [–]KartagoPill 23 points24 points  (0 children)

                      So she wants to spend time with ex, how lovely. Every ex is a friend for woman.

                      [–][deleted]  (25 children)


                      [–]1PantsonFire1234 22 points23 points  (0 children)

                      Finally someone who lays it out there. It signals a loss of attraction. Women know fully well that vacation equals away from boyfriend/in the presence of horny men/booze and partying. In a way they've already decided to cheat.

                      Think about it, what's the first thing you think about when you know your going on vacation? Fucking Fucking Fucking.

                      Women are no different, vacation means strange cock and 'whatever happened in ___ stays in ___'

                      [–]squidracer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      With family would be the only exception to this rule..

                      [–]GetrichonIMP 18 points19 points  (0 children)

                      The question he asked was quite simple. Do I respect someone with no respect for myself or do I respect myself. The choice was simple. I've been in the same situation and responded in the exact same manner.

                      [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                      Pete, I don't know you, but I already love you!!! nohomo

                      [–]MazeMouse 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                      Fuck that, this is a proper man. fullhomo (j/k)

                      [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 16 points17 points  (4 children)

                      She then pulls out the "strong independent black woman" card as a response: "I then told him that I wouldn't be controlled and hated men that thought they owned me and could tell me what to do."

                      Ah, yes, the "GRRRRL POWER!" pressure flip. The "grown up" version of "YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!!!"

                      I told him I was free to see who I wanted and that I found his lack of trust in me upsetting, disrespectful and, perhaps, a sign of future abusiveness.

                      Oy. See this is the thing: While she is free to visit the ex, she is not entitled to a relationship with her bf on exclusively her own terms--and vice versa, of course.

                      I now realise that this may have been a bad thing to say.

                      Yes, accusing and shaming in response to your partner's apprehensiveness...not plus move. But they do it because of solipsism. She never considered how he might feel about it, if the situation was flipped.

                      He didn't care about my relationship and my pain - he just wanted a hookup buddy and someone to get stoned with whilst he was in Amsterdam.

                      Du-uh. Thus proving Pete was right the whole time, that it wasn't a good idea.

                      I tried calling Pete today, about an hour ago, and he actually answered! He told me that I should look to be with someone who wasn't so abusive. He said, "Please stop calling me - this is over. Have a nice trip to Amsterdam" Then he BLOCKED me!

                      And BOOM! goes the dynamite!

                      How could he do that to someone he loves?

                      Used to love. Before she decided to go spend a week in Hamsterdam with an ex-bf who clearly wants to fuck her.

                      Is he over reacting or was I?

                      Magic 8 Ball sez: You, Hamsterlady.

                      What should I do now?

                      Go see a proctologist and ask him to find your head.

                      Was I wrong?


                      [–]RedditAdminsSuck_88 29 points30 points  (1 child)

                      Man this post is great. It's funny because you see so many guys on AskTRP all the time post about how their LTR is going on a long trip to Europe or another country without him and if they should be worried.

                      I always laugh at them and tell them if your LTR is going on a long trip to a foreign country without you, she doesn't respect you and its one giant comfort test. It's absolutely demote to plate/next behavior with no exceptions. If you let her do it and let her get away with it, you will be walked over for the rest of your life.

                      It's like those GEICO commercials. "If a woman goes on a trip to Europe without you, they will seek out foreign cock. It's what they do"

                      [–]HiGuysiamkewl 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                      "I told him I was free to see who I wanted and that I found his lack of trust in me upsetting, disrespectful and, perhaps, a sign of future abusiveness." Mfw

                      [–]DopamineKid 10 points11 points  (1 child)

                      This was a great post to read for a new comer/beginner such as myself. Really shows the power of holding frame, not just for the sake of women, but most importantly yourself. Holding frame is really holding onto you self respect. Self Actualization is so important on this red journey. Seeing the code and believing you are the one.

                      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                      Exactly. The man is the leader in a relationship. Everything you let slip by not holding frame is an open invitation to her. But holding frame is nothing more than a healthy dose of self-respect.

                      [–]VanityKings 11 points12 points  (3 children)

                      This has to be fake.
                      I can't bring myself to believe someone that stupid not only exists, but then posts their story to reddit as if she were the one slighted

                      [–]EvilPenName 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                      I believe it only because I have seen plenty of women do arrogant things like this and then can't believe it when shit goes wrong. It's the new: "I can do what ever I want and should have no consequences" attitude

                      [–]NaughtyFred 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                      Pete deserves an honorary EC Flair in absentia for this level of perfection.

                      [–]mjmqc 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                      This man is full of self respect, this is great.

                      She definitely has no respect for the relationship, wtf going to a trip alone to party, do drugs and drink...

                      He acted like a real champ, wow I'm truly impressed by the self control here too. TRP philosophy is the best ;)!

                      [–]1mojo_juju 24 points25 points  (9 children)

                      He didn't seem too bothered and eventually asked if I thought visiting an ex in another country was appropriate whilst in a relationship

                      I told Dave about what happened and he replied "Oh well, guess that means we can have even more fun then! ;o)" He didn't care about my relationship and my pain - he just wanted a hookup buddy and someone to get stoned with

                      both men in this story knew exactly what was up but she comes to the Internet asking for advice of what went wrong.

                      In this day and age... Isn't the ignorance of women amazing?

                      Honestly, it's one of the reasons I don't hang out with them. They bore the shit out of me.

                      It's either ignorance // or // a projected denial of her actual plans to fuck her ex-bf shrouded in a veil of virtue signaling ("I won't be owned" ""I am capable of platonically traveling with ex-bf//another man"")

                      Yeah right bitch.

                      Either you're

                      A. really stupid


                      B. even more cunty than you appear

                      And to be honest, I almost always place women into one of these two categories (and let's be honest, some of them run machiavelli game at a level that deserves some fucked up sort of respect). Not because I want to, but based on experience I've found it to be appropriate. It helps me remember not to trust women's knowledge or motives.

                      [–]sergeantbbbbs 17 points18 points  (1 child)

                      I asked him if this was an ultimatum - I hate ultimatums, they are tools of abusers.

                      You mean like "Either don't say anything about me going to Amsterdam to fuck my ex or I'm going to call you an abuser?"

                      [–]Crime-WoW 12 points13 points  (1 child)

                      The ex's response though. Top fucking kek.

                      [–]plenty_of_eesh 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                      Yes, these are the twin characteristics of a partner's behavior that really matter...

                      1) They have to be smart enough to know that every advance, phone number request, friend-request, ex-boyfriend contact, etc probably has alterior motives. Or not even smart, just appropriately skeptical of people...

                      2) Then they have to put you first.... they have to choose to respect you and never even give the impression of cheating, to you or to anyone who's interested.

                      "But I really thought he just wanted to be friends!!"... Nope sorry, NEXT. It doesn't really matter if she is being devious or being stupid, the result is the same...

                      [–]1mojo_juju 2 points3 points  (0 children)


                      By claiming/projecting number 1-- that she doesn't think there's potentially sexual advances involved (when reality she's pretending to be oblivious so that...),

                      it allows her to number 2-- go on the trip and bang her ex bf,

                      mixed in with a little of number 3 which, the flipside of which shows her true intention-- virtue signalling: where she brings in some truly despicable appeals to guilt/social shame "hey, I do what I want, you don't own me, I'm a free woman!" -- as in "Hey, I can fuck around with anyone b/c I don't actually give a shit about you"

                      but the dude is smart enough to know this. he's skeptical of her story because he has enough experience with women to know how devious and machiavellian they are.

                      I grew up with sisters, lots of aunts & female cousins... and now I get to watch a niece grow up. It's awesome to watch a 2 year old play games with peoples minds.

                      one must simple observe them, experience their ruthlessly self-centered nature, be scammed by them, etc. -- and how they hide it all under various pretenses -- to understand how little responsibility and respect they deserve

                      i mean.. they deserve respect where respect is reserved for psychopaths and machiavellian types. beyond that though, they don't offer much.

                      [–]KWyiz 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                      I'm going to have one my next drinks to Pete's health.

                      [–]WildmanThaGod 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                      Huge shoutout to Pete, you're a real one brother!!!

                      [–]1PantsonFire1234 8 points9 points  (2 children)

                      he just gave me a look that was...sarcastic, I suppose, would be the best way to describe it.

                      This my fellow shitlords is the reaction of a guy who's been through bullshit before. No pleading or questioning, because he already knew what was going to happen.

                      He didn't care about my relationship and my pain - he just wanted a hookup buddy and someone to get stoned with whilst he was in Amsterdam.

                      Here's the funny part. She knew exactly what was up and had fucked the guy if things would have gone down differently. But because her boyfriend was a real man she keeps up this laughable charade of pleasurable deniability. Like she had no play in the matter.

                      I really feel for that guy because he did the right thing but couldn't help but feel disappointment at female kind letting him down once again. She could have saved her relationship but instead tried to have it all and now she has nothing.

                      On a meta level this is exactly what women will get. Right now they are trying to have it all. Men are waking up and soon or later they will get nothing. All you'll have is allot of pump and dump sex slaves running on an endless supply of government sponsored birth control.


                      [–]muddynips 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      This girl is mainly upset because she lost her fun time. The idea of spending time with an ex, edging on sexual tension and drugs; that was why she wanted to go. When she lost the boyfriend, she lost all the naughty tingles, and her ex became a dude again.

                      She can't giggle with her friends and say "Hee-hee, I'm such a whore lol" if she loses the power game, which she did.

                      [–]Zachar1a 17 points18 points  (17 children)

                      This has to be a troll post.

                      [–]draftmasterx 30 points31 points  (2 children)

                      Implying it's possible to tell real stories from troll posts. In the current dating scene they're indistinguishable.

                      [–]taracus[S] 13 points14 points  (9 children)

                      To be honest some commentators are calling "TROLL" on it as the OP contains a lot of "buzzwords" for abusive relationships, but knowing what we know here, this can very much be completely real.

                      She also made an edit stating "I KNOW I FUCKED UP PLEASE HELP ME".

                      [–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity 27 points28 points  (7 children)

                      The author of the post knows womens' psyche well, but this is not something women/girls would post. If you've ever dealt with girls, you would know that they will paint themselves in the most angelic way possible. This is a bait post to invoke an emotional response.

                      [–]1PantsonFire1234 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                      I treat posts like this like half truths. Even if they aren't real stories you can learn from the comments. One dead give away is the writing style. If it's to concise and to-the-point a dude wrote it.

                      [–]1PantsonFire1234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Very probable troll but good copy pasta nonetheless.

                      [–]Mustaka 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      Original post seems fake to me. For someone showing entitlement she sure writes herself into a perfect red pill discussion topic.

                      [–]ChadThundercockII 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                      Lessons learnt:

                      Be like Pete

                      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                      Also, there's a new alpha widow on the market.

                      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      Pete gave tingles even to me, frame like a diamond. That guy deserves a golden female.

                      [–]0kool74 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                      No, its not an ultimatum. I've decided to break up with you. I have not presented you with any options. I just came to say goodbye."

                      No harsh words, no ultimatums, no anger, just HELD FRAME

                      He just didn't hold frame, he was bulletproof with that one!!!!!

                      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      That was "easy," let's say. They didn't live together or had kids or anything. If he had been any more committed, the bitch would've come after him for every penny he has. But yes, he did it right. I would've jumped out the moment I heard "international trip with my ex."

                      [–]Sgt_peppers 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                      Beautiful story, Happy ending.

                      [–]mykonos_rm 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                      Seems like men in the UK are growing their balls back more and more each day.

                      [–]battlergreg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      After reading a post like this I just know today is going to be a good day.

                      [–]Assassin1476 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                      Something tells me it wouldn't be all fine and dandy if the shoe was on the other foot and he told her he was leaving to meet up with some ex in Amsterdam and told her not to worry.

                      [–]holybad 6 points7 points  (4 children)

                      i feel like that post was bait. Wouldn't be surprised if you made that post yourself OP with an alt. It says everything us RPillers wanna hear and Pete strokes our egos too well. hell the user account is five hours old and this post is 4 hours old. this shit lines up too well for me to believe.

                      [–]fluxbane 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                      holy shit. looks like this was just some TRP porn. You guys buying into this need to remember part of being RP is seeing through bullshit even when it panders to your non BP views.

                      [–]RED_PILL_TRUTH 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                      His stoicism sent her hamster into full overdrive. good on him he dodged a wreck. I wouldn't be surprised to hear pete is one of the 158K on this domreddit

                      [–]ClericJohnPreston 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                      Pete is an "abuser" because he didnt let her do whatever she wanted AND also stay by her side. Lol. Good stuff.

                      That being said, the story seems a bit fake to me. Just reeks of too many perfect little points that make her seem like a total oblivious moron. Can anyone really be that stupid? I'm not sure if over ever met anyone yet who is that stupid.

                      [–]TryDoingSomethingNew 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      This is an excellent post & thanks for it.

                      With all the demoralizing stories we hear and men getting shit on constantly by the media, it's great to hear a story which sets a great example for how it needs to be played, and holding frame like a pro.


                      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Women believe in their hamsters, they are not lying when they say they "didnt cheat" or "it just happened", just because she believes her own lies dont mean you have to.

                      This is why intelligence agencies have been scrambling to recruit women. They lie and don't even realize it. The KGB was a master at this.

                      [–]SoleSoulSeoul 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      She brought up abuse multiple times when literally nothing was happening at all, holy shit. What goes on in these peoples' heads?

                      [–]1Jaereth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      This guy is actually doing the lords work. He's out in the world interacting with women and he actually has a modicum of self respect as to not let her get away with this bullshit.

                      Regardless of what happened between them, I think she just got clued in. Good for her.

                      [–]Nogaz 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                      I then told him that I wouldn't be controlled and hated men that thought they owned me and could tell me what to do. I told him I was free to see who I wanted and that I found his lack of trust in me upsetting, disrespectful and, perhaps, a sign of future abusiveness.

                      If a woman ever says this to you, just next her right there on the spot.

                      [–]reigorius 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Yes. You show a girl a boundary. If she chooses to ignore it and crosses that boundary anyway, it's up to you decide if you wish to keep a girl who has no respect for your boundaries.

                      Guys who think they might lose someone by enforcing his boundary, is going to be too flexible with his wishes, needs and self-respect. He might think she just had a bad day, or maybe he sees it wrong or whatever his mind spins up for to serve a reason not to stand up for himself.

                      I've been there and it's a shitty position to be in. Fear of losing someone by saying no, is a sure way of self destruction in any situation.

                      [–]phate0451 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      Dude needs a red pill medal.

                      [–]ucfgavin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                      I lol'ed at this cunt getting exactly what she deserves. She'll probably go and bang the guy anyway

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