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How I quit porn (my own xpost) (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by throwmebaba

Edit: please read slowly, to absorb everything. Activate your mindfulness.

Haven't looked at porn since the 10th of December. Will never watch it again.

I haven't looked at porn even once. Sometimes I get the urge to masturbate, WHICH IS NORMAL. I have masturbated about twice in those days, I do have a girlfriend to have sex with, blowjobs, etc.

Just said to myself, "Porn will destroy me. Masturbation is normal, natural and healthy. Porn is fake, it's unreasonable. It's breaking down my social fiber, it's making me scared to talk to women, it's filling my head with dirty thoughts 24/7. I want them to leave my head. I will NEVER look at porn again."

It worked. Previously, I would associate masturbation to porn use. I would think about nofap. I would say, I've relapsed and binge on porn and let 2-4 loads go. That was my mistake.

I disconnected porn from masturbation. That was the main step I took. Suddenly, it was so apparent, so easy that it surprised me. I am still in shock, at how easily those Dirty thoughts just left my head! They're gone!

I will say though, that I am doing a bit of visualisation. Of the 2 times I masturbated, and once in a while when porn urges come, previously "saved clips" in my head are playing, but I see it as them being played for the last time. They are leaving my head, of course you would see them go; right?

Don't worry. Disconnect porn from masturbation. Masturbation is not the problem. Porn is the problem.

The "superpowers" from nofap may or may not be real. I personally don't advocate quitting masturbation. However the immediate benefits of quitting porn; in only 3 weeks, the constant, nonstop dirty thoughts in my head are almost gone. My erections are ROCK HARD. My gf is in awe at how hard I get so quick. The best benefit is the feeling of power over yourself, the rush of feeling victorious.

Quit porn. It's bullshit. Wether you're forever alone, incel, dating, married, divorced, young or old...quit it.

It will change your life. I am here to talk to you if you need any help. I will not however entertain self-pitying repeat relapsers who aren't serious. You can quit porn, even after watching it religiously for over 15 years (my past situation).

It's easier than you think


[–]UziNidalee 303 points304 points  (55 children)

Your post targets an important issue and all but don't get me wrong quitting something for barely a month is not quitting. You need at least 90 days (average amount of time to rewrite your brain from addiction) porn free to even start saying that you made it. Just my two cents.

[–][deleted] 101 points102 points  (9 children)

This. Unfortunately, while the post and pursuit is noble, claiming you have defeated an addiction in 3 weeks is almost a sure sign of impending relapse.

It starts to read like an overzealous NoFap post. "This time it's for real, I swear"

I always applaud effort and commend positive change, but one must remember the nature of the beast.

[–]throwmebaba[S] 1 point2 points  (8 children)

I've been in that position. However as you said, it was for nofap. Here I've not cut masturbation, I've cut porn. M is healthy, P is not.

Sometimes, a different approach is the solution. I've used a different solution, it's worked.

[–]OneMoreBadger 57 points58 points  (3 children)

You cannot say it's worked after less than one month, that's the point here.

[–]throwmebaba[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Your point is valid bro.

I will come back to post a part two after a month has passed. Like I've mentioned I've used a different approach. I feel a shift, sometimes you're just sure.

[–]Tough_Luv 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Considering the night and day difference he mentioned, I'd argue that he can.

There is certainly a pronounced effect, and almost certainly attributable to the very blatant life change he made.

What we do not know if will the effects be sustained over time? Or is this a temporary?

[–]throwmebaba[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We will see, although I am feeling a calm surety. A different kind of peace, as in before I would count the days and think about how I'm not thinking about it. It was still giving attention to the issue. This time around, it's not on my mind anymore.

[–]pinechas 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I have full confidence in you. I've been porn free for about 2 and a half years. The biggest shock for me was in realizing how nearly effortless the whole thing is once you defetishize the naked body.

[–]throwmebaba[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thank you. This is what I'm saying. Porn free is the goal, not nofap. As we both agree, it's shockingly easy!

[–]pinechas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know how what I'm about to say is going to come across, so disregard it if it doesn't resonate, but, there is another side to the coin.

The most immediate and obvious benefit to a caveman who learns to carry fire is that he loses the fear of burning himself. This freedom, after a time, gives way to the secondary benefit of being able to harness fire's power. In the same way, you should right now be most conscious of your increasing invulnerability to what used to be dangerous triggers.

But I would encourage you to not settle for mere freedom from porn--as great as that is, in itself--but, to drive on and lay hold of that which the firey coals of lust had previously made untouchable. I'm talking about indulging in a sensual appreciation of the female body that is decoupled from the pornographic gaze. Of course, I don't mean some kind of snobbish taste for soft core porn: that's just the kind of shallow idea that comes to the porn ravaged, crippled imagination. Its not unlike the idiotic conception of a wine tasting party that comes to the mind of a man who's drank a $10 bottle of vodka, alone, every night for the last 20 years.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (3 children)

While 90 days is the gold standard that is thrown around the noporn community that doesn't mean it's an end all be all for every individual. Recovery time for the heavy porn user may be different than recovery time for the casual porn user.

If OP has rock hard erections after almost a month of abstaining I'd say he's close to a full recovery as long as he keeps it up.

[–]throwmebaba[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You've understood. It's not just about what you read online, a stupid 90 day nofap challenge. It's about surety, it's about knowing yourself.

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    [–]thatguy1321 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    That's the biggest problem with the nofap subreddit...a bunch of noobs posting "Oh I've been clean for a week and it's changed my life" then the flatline hits and they relapse. I'm 71 days in (oct. 28) and initially in the first week there is a huge increase in mood, energy, and libido. Then, however, after about 20 days, I crashed. Hard. Harsh mood swings, increased social retardation, ED, the works. Lasted till bout day 60, then I went back to just a normal state. Despite what they all say, you don't magically become fearless and approach all women with ease. Only difference is that I have more energy for working out.

    [–]barrelsroll 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    I do support everything you said but I am interested in the 90 days statement. Can you link any source to know how long it will take for the brain to rewire itself from the addiction?

    [–]UziNidalee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    It is a standard amount of time thrown around NoFap/NoPorn community. There are articles that it takes 90 days to break a habit that is how it started.

    [–]SmilingWatermelon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Is it really 90 days? Like if I wanted to destroy my gaming habit, I would just need to stop for 3months?

    [–]MrZz108 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    The general consensus is that it takes around 21 days to form a new habit, and 90 days to break one.

    [–]Mrmayhemful 1 point2 points  (12 children)

    The numbers I've read say 21-25 days is enough to break a habit and form a new one.

    Say I wake up in the morning and do 100 push ups or something. After 25 days (or so, very generalized number) I don't have to "tell myself" to do it anymore, my mind is automatically used to it and I just do it.

    My wrestling coach taught me that and that as soon as it turns into an instinct, you bump the number up to 125, then 150, then 200. It seriously builds mental strength and obviously helps with physical strength.

    [–]southernmost 9 points10 points  (11 children)

    That's for habits, not addiction. A lot of the guys who find their life adversely affected by porn and wanking are way, WAY beyond what most would consider normal, and spend 20+ hours a week watching porn and jackin' it. That's addiction.

    p.s. The "superpowers" those tards on nofap claim are not real. There are no superpowers. Anyone who tells you otherwise is scamming you.

    [–]1StoicCrane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    The "superpowers" are real. The true power is the power of time and testosteral energy to accomplish productive aims rather than force choke your dick like a loser.

    [–]yomo86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I would not say superpowers. Ut they conducted a study about semen retention. Testosterone increased for 5 days in test subjects then the study was halted.

    [–]Mrmayhemful 0 points1 point  (8 children)

    Ah, makes sense. But the superpowers thing, wouldn't keeping the sperm in you increase testosterone? And for men the benefits of having more testosterone are real

    [–]1StoicCrane 2 points3 points  (7 children)

    Time more importantly. Time to do other things that palm your dick like a paddle.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children)

    who the hell masturbates so long that it gives them significantly more free time when they stop? seriously? you guys are a small subset of really fucked up addicts. normal people don't spend hours masturbating.....

    [–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table 23 points24 points  (1 child)

    A very helpful tip: replace your porn usage with something. Whether you simply do push-ups or meditate or read--replacing your bad habit with another, good habit is highly recommended.

    If you ever feel like relapsing, here's a bit of tough love for you

    [–]Cam4mia 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    This. My porn activity had been linked to boredom/finding myself alone. Finally got a home gym for a healthy replacement.

    [–]honeywall 52 points53 points  (45 children)

    Im in a streak of 78 days of quitting porn and masturbation. Keep up with it man, porn really fucks our brain and our sex drive. Now im getting some signs of improvement. I really recommend to all the people here: quit fucking masturbation to porn now.

    [–]thor_away92 12 points13 points  (33 children)

    Would you be so kind as to list or note the changes you encountered?

    [–]helgisson 16 points17 points  (1 child)

    I'm also interested in knowing what he's observed. The anti-porn crusade often gets mixed up in the pseudoscience of NoFap, which makes me skeptical to say the least. Not to mention studies like this one which find no correlation between porn use and ED - which is one of the main arguments against porn in the first place.

    [–]honeywall 2 points3 points  (21 children)

    So, a lot of NoFap guys say that they suddenly they get a lot of energy, motivation, confidence and joy.

    I really didnt feel this things, and I think these effects are just for people who suffered from excessive ejaculation and numbing of their dopamine system, so they quit and experience for some time the good effects of NoFap.

    In a long-term, I think this new "drive" becomes something normal, and you think the "benefits" are fading.

    I'm now getting this confidence and motivation from Red Pill and self-improvement, that guides me to become a better man each day. And I think everybody from TRP can have more motivation, confidence and drive just by reading the stories and the guides from this subreddit.

    As im in a long streak, the benefits I see regarding sexual function are:

    -Morning wood EVERY day

    -Improved erections (i get them sometimes just by talking to some girl I really find attractive) -> (I didnt get the chance to test if im free from Porn Induced Erectile Dysfunction yet, but I really think that if I get the chance I will be able to perform)

    • got into some flatline (yes, its a real thing) but as I got out of it, my sex drive/libido is very high

    If anyone wants some advice regarding Porn Induced Erectile Dysfunction / NoFap / Quitting Porn / Performance anxiety (Its a very concerning problem for everyone who suffered from PIED, I will make some post on NoFap about how I managed to overcome this anxiety that brings suffering and fucks up our mind and performance) message me.

    [–]helgisson 4 points5 points  (20 children)

    I'm just going to leave this study here regarding Porn Induced ED: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jsm.12853/abstract

    TL;DR: it doesn't exist. That doesn't necessarily negate the rest of what you said, but I wish people would stop associating porn with ED. There's 0 scientific evidence to back that claim up.

    [–]Premiumslr 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    There are other studies showing a connection between ed and porn. Plus plenty of anecdotal evidence, and real reports of doctors prescribing ED meds to younger and younger patients. No one is saying that porn will cause ED in 100% of people, but for some it seems to be an issue.

    http://www.ansa.it/web/notizie/rubriche/english/2011/02/24/visualizza_new.html_1583160579.html

    [–]helgisson 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Anecdotal evidence is meaningless because it's self-reported. People with other health issues (physical or mental) that cause ED will latch on to porn as the "problem" because it's an easy scapegoat and they read on the internet that it's bad. Then they'll go online and tell people they have PIED. What does that prove? Also, I'd like to see those reports of doctors prescribing ED meds to young guys, because I've never heard of that happening. Any doctor giving viagra to men under 30 is crazy. Even if it does happen, that still doesn't prove anything (general anxiety among young men is on the rise, for example, which is a known cause of ED).

    As far as that article goes, it doesn't actually cite any evidence of porn causing dysfunction. It's just a survey of how many people watch it, then a quote claiming that it causes problems. The problem statement is never backed up with numbers - it's just some guy who runs a medical society making the claim out of nothing. His title is meaningless if he has no evidence.

    If a real study comes out that confirms PIED, I will believe it. Right now 0 studies have supported it and 2 have discredited it.

    EDIT: clarified my thoughts a bit.

    [–]Premiumslr 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    If you are asking me for reports of doctors who are prescribing or being asked to prescribe ED, than you are simply uninformed on the issue and should not be commenting. The issue of anxiety, porn addiction, ED are very complicated and can't be disproven or even discredited by a single study despite your claims. Again, no one is claiming if you watch porn once you will suddenly have ED. It is for this reason the studies you cite are lacking, at best, since this is the test hypothesis. No need to get defensive.

    At this point it is not a well researched subject, if you choose to have a default opinion beforehand, so be it. I have an open mind, and have no reason to suspect that patients and doctors are lying about their experiences. Milleage may vary, but I would suggest giving no porn a try for many reasons, none religious or ethical.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    just saying, you're calling the guy an idiot but you haven't provided references for a single claim you made. its all "lots of young men experience this", and "lots of doctors are doing this ". learn to debate bro. also why is redpill so infested with nofappers? when did this crossover happen? there is like 4000 of you in here. 4 posts about "quitting porn" in the hot section alone.

    [–]RavelsBolero 0 points1 point  (8 children)

    There's 0 scientific evidence to back that claim up.

    This is about as wrong as it gets. Try googling "your brain on porn".

    Are you new here? Every few other weeks there are posts on this sub about nofap, getting off porn, PIED and PE, all with people who have been through this same thing and who say the same things about the benefits, too.

    It gets bothersome seeing the deniers repeat the same old tired arguments, despite increasing evidence to the contrary. It's like watching someone seriously try to deny global warming.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children)

    yourbrainonporn doesn't have a single study that proves porn addiction is biological, just saying. i used to read that site all the time. they link studies on rats and sugar and stuff and then say "THE SAME THING HAPPENS TO A PORN ADDICTS BRAIN", which is just retarded science.

    they also link correlation studies about people who watch lots of porn having smaller brains, but its likely those people had smaller brains to start with, and simply seek out more pleasure.

    even the owner gary wilson admits he has no concrete proof of porn addiction, he goes by anecdotes and testimonies.

    [–]Azzmo 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Even if the porn doesn't have much effect, the corresponding masturbation does.

    And honestly - be skeptical of that study. Hypercharged ultra maximum stimulation of one's arousal systems via whatever hardcore pornography they need to get a boner definitely makes normal women less arousing.

    [–]Spuwk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I've gone about 75 days on nofap and the benefits vary within everyone, but something that I found was a peace of mind. I felt supreme mental clarity like I'd never had before. I could think much clearer, which just improved my life overall. I personally do agree with OP, I'd rather masturbate than watch porn. Porn has fucked my brain and it's thinking. ever since I started, I've became awkward around others. I didn't feel that type of way around girls before porn. It's been about 2 years since that streak, but I hope to get there and beyond. If I were to give advice to anyone who's on the fence about nofap then here it is: just try it. I personally think everyone can improve from nofap, it just takes a while. It doesn't come easy.

    [–]GoingTheHardWay 10 points11 points  (10 children)

    That's a great achievement and you should be proud... but a word of warning.

    While there is zero debate to be had about the benefits of cutting out porn 100%, I personally ran into issues when cutting out masturbation. If you're not sleeping with anyone at the time (FWB's, LTR's etc etc), you're setting yourself up for failure.

    After a lengthy dry spell and no masturbation, I managed to finally get my dick wet, only to last a grand total of 5 minutes. I was out of practice and unfamiliar with my own body.

    I think no-fap is a silly concept and fundamentally flawed. You're going to have nocturnal emissions anyway so it's not like it serves any biological purpose. An argument can be made for your mental well-being, but that boils down to how you approach the subject and treat it more than any puritanical sense of "Masturbation is a sin" BS.

    You're far better off getting to know your body, yourself, and your sexual edge by masturbating. The key is abstaining from climax and focusing on your thoughts, physical experience, and discipline. Climax once or twice a week depending on your age and as needed - but more importantly recognize when you're using it as a vice and the "cost' of climax.

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      [–]GoingTheHardWay 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I certainly have no disrespect for them or their cause.

      If that's what works for them, that's great!

      I just wanted to point out that it's not a black and white topic where anyone who isn't no-fap is just lying to themselves because they're addicted to fapping (which i'm sure does exist). Likewise, it's not totally untrue either, fapping all the time to climax isn't generally a positive for everyone either (again, exceptions exist).

      What matters is that you're assessing yourself, exploring those limits and seeing what works for you - while being honest about your goals and intentions.

      I'd say if you have even somewhat frequent access to pussy, No-fap is totally fine. If you're incel or very rarely get laid, I'd have concerns about impacting your sex game once you finally do.

      [–]sric2838 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      "While there is zero debate to be had about the benefits of cutting out porn 100%"

      How so?

      [–]paragonofcynicism 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Because he said so, bro. Haven't you heard all of this anecdotal evidence, clearly there is no possible counter-argument to be made.

      [–]honeywall 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      So, the reason I cut out completely porn AND masturbation is because i suffered from Porn Induced Erectile Dysfunction like in the beggining of 2016. I tried to recover only by quitting porn, but I didnt see much recovery after some time. Guys from YourBrainOnPorn tell us that we dont really need to cut out masturbation, but still masturbating and fantasizing can slow the recovery process.

      I will try to reach at least 120 days, and try to implement a healthy masturbation habit, because I have doubts too if no masturbation whatsoever is healthy for my sexual performance. I didnt really get an oportunity to test my performance now, but I really can see some improvements as I refrain from porn and masturbation together.

      I dont see lasting few minutes being an issue, as long as I dont suffer from fucking PIED when trying to have sex. Please, if you can, give me some advice or opinions regarding this. Thank you.

      [–]throwmebaba[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I haven't talked about cutting masturbation. I've only quit porn. No-fap is the reason so many people fail!

      [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (1 child)

      Respectfully, 3 weeks off of any addictive behavior is a really small sample size.

      My personal best is 6 months off.

      Lesson from experience: thinking you've won is when you are most vulnerable. That goes for anything you can get addicted to

      [–]throwmebaba[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I'll keep it in mind. Thank you. I know how overconfidence can fk things up.

      [–]BassNet 12 points13 points  (3 children)

      What "dirty thoughts" are you talking about? I get dirty thoughts all the time regardless of whether I watch porn or not. You're supposed to be horny, it's normal.

      [–]throwmebaba[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      As in flashes of porn scenes I liked even in religious settings, thinking dirty thoughts about women when with them which would interfere with my conversation/game/friendship; this led to pedestalization, led to fear, miscommunication, interference in my daily thoughts, my business thoughts, etc

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      "even in religious setting", we've hit the nail on the head, you're religious and you feel dirty for having sexual thoughts. normal men don't care are just fine.

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      [–]JFMX1996 24 points25 points  (9 children)

      Yeah man. I get that. Fuck, I'd first started with that shit a few years ago when I was 13 and got my first phone. Was opening the browser and watching bitches get railed non-stop, haha. It started off with that and eventually it spiraled down a dark rabbit hole that got progressively worse. Dang, it actually wasn't too long ago that I was watching this shit. I'm surprised the stuff was even legal, haha. I was watching a video, then holy shit, I'd see 3 more interesting looking ones in the "suggested" section and open them up. Eventually would have like 25 opened up tabs and would spend so much time watching that shit.

      Shit like facebashed and throatfucking and all sorts of stuff that left me looking at myself in shame after busting a few good nuts. It's despicable, I was getting off on watching this broads get degraded and humiliated in ways I wouldn't wish on my worse enemy. I still laugh my ass off about it to this day but holy fuck porn was ruining my expectations in general.

      Every day I was going out, seeing these girls and with my hyper-sexualized mentality seeing them in the most deranged manner. Also, due to me seeing them as theses sex objects I'd sort of pedestalize them and be really cautious around them trying to please them and so forth. Big mistake.

      Anyway, fast forward to now, to day 108 and I feel way different. I'm past the 90 day mark and haven't jacked off or watched porn ever since I made that commitment. I don't see girls as these sex objects now and am no longer putting them on a pedestal and am just more myself. Plus with all the shit I've learned and applied from Red Pill, my conversations with women is pretty awesome and I'm getting more numbers now and getting along better in general.

      Also since I've stopped wasting so much time on that I spend it researching other stuff and reading which has benefited me far more.

      You can't get rid of a habit without replacing it with another.

      I'd strongly suggest reading "Awaken the Giant Within" by Tony Robbins. He has some awesome stuff in that book.

      The first few weeks are difficult for most, but some have it easy and then they get really bad hardlines. I wouldn't discount NoFap so quickly. A lot of these dudes on here who bash it, for all we know, could also be people who don't want to give up their habit. Kind of like a drug addict or alcoholic who denies that its bad for them or that they could stop whenever they want to.

      I've noticed since I stopped PMO my erections are way stronger too and actually added half an inch so I'm not complaining.

      I'm just glad I cut that shit out now as a 20 year old and not letting myself continue on and be one of those creepy balding guys who has a huge porn collection wearing Hawaiian shirts and what not, going on forums and trying to hit up porn stars online.

      Try going 90 days first, I think you would benefit from just having sex with another person and cutting out porn and masturbation. Masturbation is sort of just a thing we use to relieve stress and run from our problems, there's typically much better ways to approach that and save your nuts for blowing your load on your girls face. No fun when you spend it all by yourself.

      See how long you can last without it, only limiting yourself to sex. Most people can't and try to rationalize against it, but to each their own.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      I started when I was twelve, was an everyday user by fifteen and I'm late twenties now with a mind that has been fried from porn use. I can still fuck like I'm nineteen, but my idea of intimacy is not the same as non-users.

      Even worse, my little brother just turned thirteen. My dad recently had to password protect all the devices in the house and limit the internet connection because he was subscribing to online sites and buying movies. A thirteen year old boy watching gangbang and choke fetish porn, it's awful. I don't want him to end up going through what I have.

      [–]JFMX1996 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yeah man, it's fucked up what people do as they even practically market teenagers. They try to pass it off as normal to appease the consciences of the youth. Indoctrinate them at a young and malleable age and you'll have a loyal customer for a long time.

      It's shitty. Poor kid, I hope he learns. Ever introduced him to NoFap? yourbrainonporn(dot)com by any chance?

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      The best 87 days of my life were when I was on that NoFap streak. It could me a coincidence, but I feel like that wasn't the case.

      [–]najaanwe 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      I've always struggled to understand posts on this subject. Just stop watching it, it's not that hard.

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      [–]throwmebaba[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Good luck to you. Quit porn, your masturbation will go down. Porn is unhealthy, jacking is not.

      [–]CalfReddit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Porn isn't unhealthy, but it may not be right for you.

      [–]Lice138 19 points20 points  (23 children)

      To each their own...some people like porn, there is nothing wrong with it. Im sure soon we will be hearing about his moral superiority he has achieved through only having sex in the missionary position and ONLY to create children.

      [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (11 children)

      Haha.

      I generally fap once in a while, especially when I am too exhausted to fuck. Masturbating to porn never affected me in any way.

      I don't understand redpill's fascination with porn.

      [–]Lice138 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      I don't understand redpill's fascination with porn.

      I have no idea. I don't like or watch porn but that is not out of any moral duty i feel i have. It's not my thing but I think its harmless.

      [–]helgisson 8 points9 points  (8 children)

      It's pretty strange. Especially all the "porn induced ED" stuff, which has been scientifically disproven recently. Yet it remains a myth on redpill that if you watch porn your dick won't work.

      [–]wtf793 2 points3 points  (7 children)

      which has been scientifically disproven recently

      yourbrainonporn.com

      If anything, it has been scientifically proven. This is new research. After the advent of tube sites in 2006, more and more people started getting ED and when they stopped watching porn/fapping they were back to normal.

      It's just like how many people thought smoking was not detrimental to our health. In fact, fake research papers were published claiming there was no link between smoking and cancer.

      Also don't you find it weird that the ads on porn sites are all about viagra and cialis?

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

      don't link a website link a study. that site is just mountains of anecdotal evidence and bullshit.

      [–]wtf793 0 points1 point  (5 children)

      Alright. I challenge you to fap to porn for 3-4 times a day for full year. Watch the most hardcore stuff. And then get back to me if you don't get ED.

      [–]jorgander 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I don't understand redpill's fascination with porn.

      I think it's similar to Alcoholics Anonymous' fascination with drinking, in that they've had such a problem with it and feel the need to warn others, and this is not a bad thing. For sure, any addiction has negative effects.

      But not everyone gets addicted. For every addict, there are five who partake responsibly. If you're one of the addicts, or potential addicts, then by all means abstain. But the majority of us want to experience what life has to offer, whether it be alcohol, marijuana, or pornography, and have no problem recognizing how much is too much.

      [–]Eyeswears 6 points7 points  (4 children)

      It's about not having control. These kids come on here reading about how porn is addictive and makes you a worse person but if you could just shake it off, you'd become a superhero. So they have all of these wild fantasies and when they fail, they become obsessed with it as a personal failure and crusade for everyone to understand their struggle as a Great Struggle worthy of admiration, respect, and mimicry. When in the end, all they needed to do was set personal goals and standards and work to achieve them and they would be happy. Happiness is actually really really simple: you do what you know you need to do. Most people are too lazy to actually follow through with that basic idea, though, so they keep looking externally for solutions. Everyone knows exactly what would make them happy and how to get it but they choose not to run uphill. And when they don't know, they convince others and themselves they do instead of putting themselves in a position of humility to ask.

      [–]Lice138 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      K, so how is porn any worse than a romantic comedy?

      [–]Eyeswears 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      If you're talking about how romantic comedy is called porn for women, I'd say there are some pretty significant differences... You don't masturbate to a rom com, normally... Having a full blown sexual release kinda changes things.

      When you do it in the context of seeing a sexual image, you are associating an intense reward with a passive experience. That's fine if you want to be a passive person, but I don't think most people do.

      At its heart, philosophically, rom coms are similar in the fact it they also involve being a spectator or passive observer of the pursuit of personal happiness by another person. If it is a typical one, it involves success, so you get a vicarious feeling of fulfillment which is nothing but empty diversion distracting you from being involved in the actual people around you.

      At the end of the day, if you want to enjoy your own life, you have to spend time living it and getting good at it. If you don't want to be happy, spend your time watching other people have a great time instead. It's your life.

      [–]Lice138 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I was getting at Porn and Rom coms both set up unrealistic ideas of how a relationship should go.

      [–]throwmebaba[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I agree. I was among those who "fought the fap fight". I segregated the problem: the dirty thoughts from constant porn, the break in thought processes due to hypersexualized needs, the need to see beautiful women getting banged on the daily, the extreme changes in my sexuality due to constant use and desensitisation. These were all porn related. They were constantly changing factors. The only thing that was constant was my dick, my hand, the motions and the result.

      I identified porn as the root of my problems, not masturbation. I cut porn.

      [–]Moonwlkr50 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      I don't see porn as a bad thing. I've been watching porn since my early teens. But like anything else, I believe too much of it can have a negative impact. Now that I look back, it was when I got out of my 6 year LTR that my porn use started increasing.

      I went a good year or so without any new partners (I was depressed). I was jerking off once or twice daily to porn and I have porn subreddits all over my Reddit feed where I casually click multiple links throughout the day. Pair this with smoking too much pot here and there and drinking a lot when I go out and I started seeing it impact my sexual performance when I actually did start dating again. Not all the time, but often enough that I was getting frustrated or embarrassed while making excuses. If I watched less porn or didn't masturbate I saw the problem go away (but I didn't really think a lot of it I just thought I was jerking too much).

      Fast forward another year to now, and I'm seeing a girl I really like and I know I'm attracted to. I've been back with my old porn habits though. We've hung out at least 5 times. Each time we've gotten sexual I've been able to give her several orgasms whereas she's only been able to make me cum once in all the times we've hung out. My dick will either be slow to get up or my erection is good but my stamina/desensitization is so bad that I've either fucked myself soft or had to stop and finish myself off for her (like with vigorous fapping).

      I'm definitely attracted to her and the chemistry is better than most any other girl I've been with. But now I can see it's impacting her confidence because she thinks she can't get me off. She's been really cool about the whole thing, but I can't keep doing this without trying to fix the problem. I'm basically about to cut all porn out now to see what impact it has. I've never tried this before in all the years I've watched porn, but I feel like I need to know. I will still jerk off, but less often and not to porn anymore. If I see improvement, that will be my cue that I've overdone it with porn. When I think about it, it makes sense though. Just like with drinking or drugs, it's not a party if it happens every day. You get bored of it mentally.

      Maybe this is what I need. Idk. Point is I don't see this as a superiority choice or a need to cut all immoral shit out of my life. I see it as a thing that might be impacting my quality of life in general. The whole fantasy of porn is wishing you were doing what is on the screen. Now here I am trying to do just that, and the fantasy itself might be the reason I can't enjoy it. If that isn't reason enough to scale my porn use back, idk what is.

      [–]throwmebaba[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Just try it. In my 15 years, I either quit masturbation AND porn, or binged on both. This is with or without girlfriends. Heck, I even told myself porn induced ED was good because I would last so long.

      Try cutting just porn.

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        [–]throwmebaba[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        It'll feel very weird at first, This is what will happen step by step. First, you'll feel ridiculous holding your dick with no screen in front of you showing you how to feel. You may not even get it up the first time. Your mind will instantly try to short cut and pull up saved scenes to arouse you. Let go at this point and stop until the scene stops. Visualise it leaving your head. That ones gone. Bring up a real past experience. See if it'll get you off.

        This helped me curb my masturbation automatically from multiple times a day to only twice in the last month. All the while no porn.

        Just try to get used to no porn and remember masturbation is healthy.

        Thanks for your feedback. I wish you luck! Please update on the progress.

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        I'll message you personally about that don't worry

        [–]Lice138 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        It's cool bro. I enjoy ass, vag and mouth ( in an order that may surprise you ) and i tried this because i learned some things watching porn.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I found increased focus, attention and presence after quitting. The biggest realization for me a couple weeks in is seeing what "triggered" looking at porn.

        Difficult task? Welp, better beat it first.

        Horny? Let's fix that.

        Bored? Let's see some titties.

        A while after quitting, I had no other choice but to start the task, actually engage in sex with another human, or let myself be bored in a constructive way.

        [–]Schwaggaccino 5 points6 points  (3 children)

        Porn targets the dopamine pathway same as nicotine and drugs. You get that feel good urge and within minutes it's gone. It's a crazy imbalance. I've cut down on porn as well. Noticed that I've become more social, charming and outgoing.

        Please note it's extreme difficult to go cold turkey. What you should be doing are baby steps. Slowly and gradually cut it out. One less porn video a week one and less masturbation session. It's much easier that way. Don't cold turkey you'll relapse hard. Set longer term goals and stick to it.

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Quitting porn wasn't difficult at all for me. It just took time to realise that I had to sever the link between porn and masturbation.

        We are programmed to release our seed, masturbation has been around for hundreds if not thousands of years.

        Porn is recent.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        better stay away from real sex, and delicious food, and music, and everything else fun, better yet just sit in a cave, don't wanna fuck up your dopamine balance !

        [–]Schwaggaccino 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Those are all actually positive influences in your life. Music barely releases any dopamine as compared to porn. Wtf are you on about?

        [–]Fredo100 24 points25 points  (13 children)

        Glad to see people on TRP knowing about the ill effects of pornography and masturbation. In the Blue pill world, it is perfectly fine and even considered "Healthy" but we know the truth. It's basically a smaller form of castration and makes males much more "obedient" and more likely to follow society like sheep without any retribution.

        [–]surgeon_general 15 points16 points  (12 children)

        Why are pornography and masturbation "basically a smaller form of castration and makes males much more obedient and more likely to follow society like sheep without any retribution?" I'm just trying to understand your post.

        [–]Fredo100 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        When you constantly give yourself an orgasm through porn and masturbation, your brain generates huge amounts of dopamine which is an antagonist of it's own receptor so your dopamine receptors becme less sensitive, and since it is responsible for pleasure and motivation, you will be less likely to take action (such as lifting or going rallying against society), and taking action will feel way less enjoyable than it would if you didn't masturbate so often. Not only that, it also reduces the sensitivity of androgen receptors which has the same effect of having lower testosterone and other manly hormones. I've been trying to find the studies for this but cannot find it anymore. I will link if i do.

        When the manly hormones are reduced you become naturally more feminine and weak, therefore become more accepting of other things which they generally wouldn't accept. Just try abstinence over a 2 week period and tell me if you feel any difference. I've done this enough times to notice. My workouts feel better during abstinence because not only is the more sensitive dopamine receptors allowing me to motivate myself easily, but it gives me more pleasure doing it. I feel less anxious to approach and speach comes out naturally (No idea why this is, but it happens everytime i go on a long streak and not placebo cause i never expected this in the first place. Maybe this is caused by more stable hormones from not giving your brain an electroshockwave of dopamine every single day. There are countless other benefits, just give it a go.

        [–]surgeon_general 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Interesting. I'm still undecided about the goodness/badness of pornography. I have simply made a rule that I am only allowed to engage in alpha fantasies- and that sure beats masturbating to the thought of another man having sex with the girl. But between your post and the rest of this thread, I'm going to give abstinence a shot and see how it feels.

        [–]Fredo100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Great. People naturally go on the defence when something that generates dopamine for them is being attacked. Good to see open minded people.

        [–]EveryoneIsGod 2 points3 points  (5 children)

        I have never thought about the disconnecting porn from masturbation - it seems like the alpha omega to stop watching porn.

        Thank you for the great post buddy!

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

        Thanks for your compliment. Tough crowd over here after the pill lol

        [–]EveryoneIsGod 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        Yea, some people have a hard time giving others props.

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        Hope it helps you as it helped me. As I mentioned in another reply, this is a community to help other men. If it helped even one person we have won

        [–]Katavasis 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Although as everyone said,3 weeks are not enough time to say you quitted porn,i must say that your overall advice IS solid as fuck.

        Quitting masturbation AND porn,especially if you don't have someone,is not only hard,by counterproductive.Think about it:

        Your last orgasms was with Porn.You now went 1 month without orgasmisng and not watching porn.Your brain is hanging in the notion that you can only orgasms when porn is present.

        Of course this is a bit far fetched.

        I,myself,give you guys the same advice.If this is your first time trying to quit Porn,start with eliminating just that.Keep masturbating/fucking as you previously did. Then if you want to try the NoFap thing,go ahead(which is nothing more than sexual energy manipulation).

        *One personal experince,is that if i masturbate(with NO sex) every 3rd or 4th day i can maintain high energy,withouy the dumb after orgasming.Try it.

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Thank you for your open mind

        [–]xddm2653 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Good for you man. I can count with my right hand how many times I watched porn last year. Spent much more time chasing, less being beta-tized

        [–]ladopairts 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I think OP really has the right idea here.

        I've tried the "NoFap" thing many times and I always end up relapsing.

        I would say the following are the key to success:

        1 - Pick a quit date. It helps if it is more significant (like New Years or a Birthday, or even just the first of the month)

        2 - Delete your browser history and any saved videos or pictures

        3 - Buy a FleshLight. You can get them for under $80 and they last forever. Only masturbate with it. This will help reduce the frequency you masturbate because setting it up requires a bit of effort. Plus it prevents the "death grip" phenomenon.

        I think masturbation is healthy, but too much is definitely not.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Pornography addiction is something hard to talk about for most guys. It's seen as an acceptable behavior in most social circles and is often written off as a harmless behavior that 'all guys do.'

        It's also one of the most harmful habits for a man to indulge in. It rewires your brain and completely fucks your ability to build healthy intimate relationships.

        That shit is poison.

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        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        honestly thats probably the only logical reason to quit porn. not because all this "i quit and then suddenly i have powers !" bullshit. it is creepy and weird to jerk off while other people fuck.

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        [–]Anymation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I was looking for you. Honestly this stuff seems ridiculous for me

        [–]reecewagner 5 points6 points  (2 children)

        I will not however entertain self-pitying repeat relapsers who aren't serious.

        Lol says the guy who quit less than a month ago

        [–]suske127 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Masturbation is actually good for keeping your pipes working down there if you know what I mean. If you haven't had sex in 2 weeks, it's a good idea to jerk off just to keep things working properly. But more than once a week and you're ruining yourself. You're right that porn is even worse. The psychological effects it has on a person is just terrible. The only single benefit it could have is if you're looking to last longer in bed - porn desensitizes you to sex and makes it less enjoyable, and then you'll be able to "last longer" because it doesn't feel as good. Not worth it to me

        [–]1StoicCrane 4 points5 points  (6 children)

        On both porn and masturbation they wreck the dopamine receptors. The more one indulges in either the less pleasure one derives from life in general and it paves way for depression among other ills.

        Hope and despair are one and the same. The greater the height of pleasure the greater the height of pain.

        [–]ladopairts 1 point2 points  (4 children)

        This is definitely true.

        There has been a lot of talk about dopamine and the "reward pathway" of the brain lately.

        Porn and masturbation are just the start. There are numerous activities that mess up the reward pathway in your brain. Video games (especially addictive ones on mobile like Clash of Clans). Social media (Facebook being the worst), even texting. All of these things mess with your reward pathway.

        Pretty much anything that involves a feeling of instant gratification.

        Before the internet and smartphones, instant gratification was almost non-existent. One would do well to realize that although these new technologies are very helpful tools, overuse can be really bad for you in the long run.

        [–]1StoicCrane 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        One would do well to realize that although these new technologies are very helpful tools, overuse can be really bad for you in the long run.

        I was just thinking about this last night. Though advances in information technology are unprecedented the potential for sending disinformation and manipulation from obscure locations are obscenely high. The rich ruling elite class no longer needs to force compliance physically when they can subconsciously influence obedience through a synthetic plasma screen with Delta wavelengths. What's the point of setting bounties when the can track every with Androids and iPhones through their GPS service?

        Unfortunately the way it's used en masse tech is becoming more of an imposed liability than an asset since basic purchase transactions and the like are becoming more and more integrated with software that only a select few fully understand and can easily exploit to their benefit.

        [–]ladopairts 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Your post sounds like you are trying to convince me to go halvsies on a credit card scam with you.

        [–]1StoicCrane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        With the way tech is now it's all too easy. Sad thing is, few would be able to stop us.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        holy pseudo science batman !

        [–]KvackPack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I've also managed to quit porn, I've tried to quit for over a year but finally succeeded. This mainly because I was working so hard for a student side-project over a period of 3 weeks and was too exhausted to watch porn when I got home. I've currently gone around 40 days as of now.

        Porn is like any addiction, you need to replace bad habits with new better habits.

        [–]RedsideoftheMoon 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        While I have watched some hardcore porn in the past, my preferred method of masturbation was always to fantasies in my head. I haven't watched porn in forever (haven't counted) but once in a while to fuel my mental images I pull up old nudes girls have sent me. Thoughts?

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        I maintain that past/real experiences are the best way. The unreality of porn is dangerous.

        I feel you are not struggling with a porn problem. For you the next step would probably be getting women to jerk you! You are free to play with your situation.

        I felt this post was needed for people like me who struggled Years with porn use, daily. Failing to stop masturbation then giving up and bingeing on porn. Days lost man, days..

        [–]RedsideoftheMoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Yeah everyone has their vice. I have other vices.
        I've been spinning at least 1 plate at a time since I joined TRP earlier last year, but I definitely prefer a nice jerk in solitude once in a while. It's just one of those alone time things

        [–]ladopairts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I would like to also add that, for men having trouble reaching orgasm from penetrative sex, start using a FleshLight to masturbate.

        For those that don't have trouble reaching orgasm right now I would caution you that if you keep masturbating with your hands (with or without lube), the sensory nerves in your penis will eventually get used to your grip pressure and you may run into trouble orgasming later on.

        I believe that this is a problem many older men have but few talk about it because it's sort of a taboo topic.

        I also feel that circumcision contributes to this problem as well. I believe non-circumcised penises retain their sensation better than circumcised penises. Non-cut penises have a protective cover over the most sensitive part (right below the head on the underside), which prevents stimulation of the nerves. However I have never heard anyone talk about this. Or of any studies done about it. Which is weird, because it seems like a common sense kind of thing.

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        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        wait....you jerk off to yourself in the mirror?

        [–]BlindBoyGunnn 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        previously "saved clips" in my head

        Dude, whether it's from porn or an IRL experience, if it's in your head it's called "The Spank Bank." You're welcome.

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        [–]LidlKwark 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Masturbate every once a while, but try to quit porn. My two cents.

        [–]Horus_Krishna_5 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        I don't understand how it can decrease your libido

        [–]Lionlocker 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Its called 'flatlining' and its a common phenomenon in quitting porn addiction.

        [–]Eastuss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Me too, absence of sex sometimes makes me more willing it, and sometimes it makes me forget the need of it.

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        If you stop porn, your mind starts changing. My thoughts now go towards my gf. Where before saved clips of porn would play in my head, now things i want to do to my gf play. It makes me want to grab her, makes her feel wanted. Makes me happier. There's a lot more sex, a lot more unsolicited blowjobs. I love it

        [–]helgisson 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        There's no scientific evidence to support the anti-porn arguments, and in fact most of it seems like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Guys hear porn causes ED, they know they watch porn, they get worried about ED, then their worry turns to anxiety and it kills their boner when they go to have sex. (I know this because that's exactly what happened to me). It was never porn's fault to begin with.

        EDIT: I would love for people to debate me on this instead of knee-jerk downvoting me cause they're mad. I'm open to other views, but so far I'm not convinced.

        [–]DirtyProject0r 4 points5 points  (5 children)

        My bottleneck is not my desktop pc (have installed a porn blocker on that one) but my phone. Sometimes when I come home from going out I cannot help to think of masturbating and then look up porn on my phone.

        How do I block porn on my phone?

        [–]LidlKwark 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Discipline might help. Not saying that it's easy, but it's still a concious decision that only you have control over.

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        This was my problem too.

        So as my post says, you get horny, then you think to masturbate, then you use porn.

        Try to skip the porn part. Go from being horny to masturbation, try thinking of an experience you've had yourself. You'll see about porn becoming more and more useless.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        You can't. tried several times.

        [–]ladopairts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Don't look at the porn. Just masturbate without it. Draw on past experiences.

        [–]circlhat 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        Porn is fine, addiction is not but porn didn't ruin/effect me, I grew out of it because it became boring after I started getting laid regularly, it just felt like a waste.

        Porn will not destroy you, in fact most girls I dated we would watch porn together, one girl even downloaded bible black.

        [–]genesisofman 7 points8 points  (8 children)

        I did the same but I used the fact that it's used as a weapon against whites by Jews

        [–]ScroogeMcThrowaway 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        100% the reason I quit. I can't find much info online about pornography in Israel. But the amount of filth here, 90%+ is produced by the Jews. I'd love to see some BBC gangbang on a Hasidic in Israel.

        [–]cryptoreporter 1 point2 points  (4 children)

        deleted What is this?

        [–]genesisofman 4 points5 points  (2 children)

        i know the jew propaganda runs deep and it's hard for you to disassociate yourself from it. believe me, i was there. i can only lead you to water. it's up to you to drink or not

        [–]Avskygod0 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

        I never understood how people can watch porn

        It's more often than not straight out gross and feels like cuckery

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        There are people who watch porn and don't masturbate. Imagine.

        [–]Overzealous_BlackGuy 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        Why is porn bad for someone who is actively dating or in a happy relationship?

        Sometimes I rather rub one out than have the "get away from me feeling" after sex. I lose interest in whoever I finish having sex with for the next 20 minutes.

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        You start hypersexualizing your needs, your desires, your fetishes.

        You lose interest in your own wife/gf. You subconsciously compare her. You forget that those pornstars go through surgeries, makeup, training, mind fucks, drugs, alcohol, suicides, etc to get how they are.

        Your woman fails to satisfy you. You stop gaming her. You stop wanting her.

        Etc

        [–]Overzealous_BlackGuy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        What happens if I get this same feeling without porn no matter who I'm dating?

        I always seem to want someone else. Is this a sign I should avoid monogamy. Or is it normal to always want to fuck other women.

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Normal to want to fuck different women. It's a male equivalent to hypergamy. But I'm not the person to speak about that, you have the legends in the sidebar to help you.

        Quitting porn will bring you instantly closer to who you're dating. Be careful of oneitis though!

        [–]1StoicCrane 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        This sounds morbid AF but throughout the day everytime you think about porn go into a nearby Cemetary and think of dying diseased people. Do it continuously. The more you make a cross association between porn, pain , and death the more of a turn-off it'll be. Way I cut off my habit.

        [–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 6 points7 points  (2 children)

        I tried that, now I want to fuck dead people too.

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        [–]throwmebaba[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I can't explain it; I haven't had porn urges. I have only been horny, masturbated twice in the last month to real experiences, in my head.

        The further I get away from it, the better I'm feeling. There are no porn cravings at all.

        I think it's the habitual association of porn to masturbation, then the hypersexuality that porn creates that gets you.

        [–]daydaypics 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        The hentai is too dank tho

        [–]YoungHef 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Thanks for the honest post OP. I'm thinking about making the jump myself. Your story is helpful.

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        That's the first step, friend. The intention.

        Do try the method I've outlined. Quit porn, don't quit masturbation. It works . I'm available on pm to talk.

        [–]51m0n 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Just saying, Im not quitting. :)

        [–]OneInAZillion 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        I needed to read this. Thanks.

        I just yesterday used LeechBlock to block every porn site I could think of, put a password on that, made a setting where I couldn't ever configure it again (which is a mistake - you should be able to ADD sites to that block list whenever), and so your post comes at literally the perfect time for me because this feels like a hard battle to win.

        Cheers.

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Don't take this the wrong way; the mote attention you give it, the more it will take from you.

        Try this. Disconnect porn from masturbation. Next time you get an urge, go jerk. Just skip the porn and use a recent or past experience.

        You'll see how you aren't dependant on porn at all. Things will start changing for you. Please post Your results!

        [–]plasticslug 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Lot of comments here have not read through, wondered if there was any support for the fap? I mean we have no fap etc, and the constant post like these that claim how bad it is... But is it really that bad?

        For example what if you had mastered the fap achieving both a mental release as well as a physical one. Most people get the only the physical release. While you are improving your self, making money, spitting your game etc. I have been in shitty LTR'S where yes I hate to admit it, the sex was dull and a good fap would do the trick after they left... Is a good wank really so bad?

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        A wank isn't bad man. Porn is bad.

        Look up yourbrainonporn

        [–]dts2016 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Quitting porn forever seems very extreme. Everything in moderation. I watch porn maybe, MAYBE once every two months and it's usually something that I find somewhat kinky/erotic (older ladies getting fucked, say in their 50s or early 60s). Or even just 'normal' young hot girls. It's good to fantasize. I don't see an issue.

        Now, blowing a load to porn every day is of course bad for you. Once every month or so? Not that bad at all, maybe even beneficial.

        [–]Handbone1469 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Didn't read every comment yet but what are your thoughts on say jackin it to social media? Lots of girls I know constantly post some seriously sexy shit, so I guess its kind of like porn but just really softcore?

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Porn hasn't effected me in this way since I was a teenager; fake, disgusting - even worse are dating site asking questions about sex and they always include bondage, pain, and abuse as a preference. Some people are going to have their kinks but when it's the majority of women, and most men get off on really twisted pornography - to me that seems more like stress of civilization driving us to seek an outlet for neurosis, than a natural outlet for sexual energy and curiosity. Rare where the couple is physically attractive and look like they are enjoying themselves in a mentally healthy fashion. America's pornography is all about fake tits and larger than life dicks while the whole thing plays out as an overly developed stage performance to compensate for a decreasing sensitivity, Japanese is rape, fat unattractive guys gang banging - sex is seen as a painful thing that must be forced upon. As if porn becomes a projection of how men are treated in their professional and personal lives, while women's sexual preferences are based upon the amount of hedonism she is allowed to get away with by society, like a drug addict who must keep increasing the potency to overcome tolerance.

        [–]momomotorboat 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        It's awesome that you've shown discipline and achieved a goal that's helped you progress. This is what we're all about.

        At the same time, I watch and masturbate to porn and my sex life is amazing. I have two plates whom I'm very attracted to and fucking like animals, and am moving in on a couple more. An old ex is also trying to get together to catch up.

        I watch porn with girls and share it with them as well.

        I'm not saying any of this to discredit your progress. I guess you could say that drinking is an issue for some people, but not for others. So is gambling, food, even social media. A vice is a matter of the persons internal constitution and its relationship to the external object.

        I have different vices. Porn hasn't been one of them. But I didn't make much progress until I tackled my vices.

        I'm not jacked, I'm not balling, I'm not tremendously popular. But I accepted myself and have stopped trying to impress women. It's made a huge difference.

        I'm glad you tackled yours, OP. Cheers to you. If any of you feel like OP does, it could likely help you to follow suit. If that's not it, keep looking inward until you identify yours.

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Thank you for your candid response. Those are the best ones.

        A vice is exactly what it is; a vice on you. A grip, a hold, something you can't just shake off.

        For me porn was that. It was invading my mind. I would sit in religious, holy places and even during prayer porn would be flashing in my mind.

        I would sit with old friends (women), who I have no intention of banging: and would fantasise about the filthiest things with them, while sitting there WITH them.

        Porn flashes and dirty thoughts would take me away from where I was into its world and distract me.

        My increasingly extreme porn fetishes would get caught by friends at times, and I've lost good friends because of it. I would have maybe used a friends computer and forgot to clear the history in my daze; they would see it and judge me on it.

        It was a vice. FUCK. PORN. It's brought me nothing.

        [–]NotAlwaysAppropriate 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        I've gone the no fap route for months. It just made me angry. I mean really angry. I'd wake up in the morning, feel angry, and spend the day feeling angry. I don't know what the positive benefits are supposed to be.

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Try it this way. Just pornfree. There's a sub on Reddit. There's yourbrainonporn. I'm approaching a month of quit, but as I've said to other comments, i am not struggling. I have no anger, little to no urges, no cravings.

        [–]SnarkyFella 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Just got back from fucking a girl and i couldnt cum. I think I am watching too much and jerking off too much/too quickly. Going to try doing monk mode for a few weeks to see if it helps.

        [–]AttackOnKvothe 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        So, you mean masturbating only with your thoughts?

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Initially for me, that was the plan. To use past experiences, of my own. Eventually after 2 times (in the last month) I've stopped masturbating as well. My gf does the rest :)

        [–]raizo87 0 points1 point  (4 children)

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        What is this?

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        For the 2 times I did in the last month, I've used my own experiences, my own thoughts. No more porn.

        Doing that also has stopped my daily masturbation automatically, I felt kinda stupid sitting there holding my dick when my senses weren't being consumed by the porn in front of Me.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        What's the point of quitting porn when most of us aren't getting pussy?

        [–]throwmebaba[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Try quitting porn and see if it helps. If you're not getting any, you're not getting any. Might as well try something new. It may help.

        [–]Bartand 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Lol, I will quit TRP before I quit porn. Keep dreaming.

        [–]human_bean_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        What's wrong with dirty thoughts?

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