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Blue Pill ExampleGuy on OKCupid sub (probably newbie/lurker here) conducts an "experiment" with the intent to expose gender bias. Gets what would probably be expected results. Sub's hamster wheels in high gear spinning at 50rpm. (self.TheRedPill)

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First off, granted, the OP behind this seems to have some BP traits like a tendency to react, and seems to be somewhat in the anger phase, seeing as he went out of his way to do this when he could be improving himself. Though he does claim to be successful so who knows. Definitely on his way though.

But still that doesn't mean what he did and the results and reaction aren't worth noting (or at least aren't entertaining).

It's outlined in the thread, but cliffnotes version: This guy isn't happy with being used to seeing men get called creepy or predators for having a preference for younger women when they aren't young themselves, or having that policed in general. Particularly on that subreddit. Which many of us here I'm sure can relate with. It really gets to him that one year ago he saw a 38 year old woman on that subreddit proudly ask for advice on how to cultivate an FWB relationship with men 10 years younger than her, and be (as he put it) met with 'open arms' and given the advice he asked for. Which again I'm sure many of us can relate to scratching our heads at.

The guy seems to touch on hamstering when he claims that he pettily linked to the thread and called people out when he saw the above phenomenon with men (he could be making that part up but it sounds plausible that they'd respond that way) and they hamster up excuses for it.

So fast forward to a few days ago. One day, the devious little motherfucker happens to have a lot of time on his hands. Remembering that thread and what I imagine going through his mind is "hey, a year has passed, I bet everyone forgot all about it, wonder what would happen if I replicate that thread word for word with the genders flipped, surely they'll welcome and advise me with open arms? And if they don't, they'll have nothing to hamster with! I'm totally gonna get them! This will be fun! MWAHAHAHA"

So the guy does this, they take the bait, he gets the negative reactions they expect.

A day later he makes a thread about his 'experiment' and what it exposed and posts the results of it, in the process of block-quotedly yelling at everyone and calling out individually each and every one of them who responded with comments that supported his claim and gloating.

Which was also a bit overkill and overaggressive and perhaps a BP-ish thing to do, but it was definitely entertaining and satisfying to watch. Everyone reacted pretty much the way you'd expect.

TL;DR: Guy trolls OKCupid sub hard by copying a woman's thread from a year ago with the genders flipped and getting opposite responses, takes the opportunity to post about it and call them out and their heads explode.

Lessons learned: Hamsters gonna hamster. Don't try to get them to see reason, it's not worth it and it won't happen.


[–][deleted] 286 points287 points  (7 children)

He really triggered them hard. My favorite comment was the one where the guy says that the situations are totally different because guys only date younger women to "control" them.

Women do not like to be reminded that they get significantly less desirable as they age.

[–]L04TSK4 points points [recovered]

This cracks me up so hard.

They are all for equality - except if it means a man dating a younger woman, then their true colors and hamstering shine.

They are the true bigots.

Glorious.

[–]koolkat182 56 points57 points  (2 children)

I think it's just a group of guys that are upset to hear that young women like to sleep with older men.

My favorite comment was the person who said something like, "3 years is the largest age difference you can have between a man and a woman without being a creep. If you're gay it can be 8 years."

And another that compared him to men who hit on underaged restaurant staff. Lmao

[–]Returnofthemack3 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don't even understand that logic tbh. My dad is around 9.5 years older than my mother, and theyve been happily married for over 4 decades. Fuck these people

[–]WallStRogue 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Mentally disabled people make mentally disabled comparisons. The hope that any of their flawed logic arguments is cringy

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It does not just come down to age, it also comes down to who picks up the check. Many women will claim to want to be equal to men and all that, but when the check comes, many of them will claim to be "traditional." Funny thing is my success rate on dates I have had off tinder/ok Cupid is higher when the chick pays for her portion of drinks or whatever we get.

[–]Hviterev 27 points28 points  (0 children)

To be completely fair I do enjoy tame young girls. Delicious obediance hmmm... ♥

[–]Prophets_Prey 159 points160 points  (14 children)

Glorious damage control 101. Everything from the books; gas lighting to ad hominems instead of acknowledging their mistake and gender biases. AWALT and apparently almost all the "males" in that sub too.

[–]vagbutters 56 points57 points  (1 child)

AWALT and apparently almost all the "males" in that sub too.

These men are just bitches.

If it acts like a bitch, talks like a bitch, and looks like a bitch, it's probably a bitch.

Beta males are a dime a dozen.

[–]theawesomethatis points points [recovered]

all wusses are like that

[–]primo_pastafarian points points [recovered]

It's not even damage control. They're just straight up mad, and attack OP with every logical fallacy in the book.

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Nothing pisses off a delusional bitch more than the truth.

[–]jorgander 17 points18 points  (7 children)

I know that a reasonable response to critique is unlikely, but there were a couple who attempted a thoughtful rebuttal, saying something like younger women who date older men do so for different reasons than older men who date younger women, and these differences validated the apparent double standard.

Obviously OP is correct, but it was nice to see some logic and thought put into one or two of the responses.

[–]TridentMixed 19 points20 points  (6 children)

The one I read was regarding how life is not fair...ie women get called sluts/men studs for sleeping around/and it's ok for older women to date younger/not ok for men.

I agree with this. What makes it difficult is that women seem to be coming together for each other in a way and shaping society opinions on issues like this, while men as a whole (even in the "manosphere") are doing a lot of in-fighting..our worst enemies being white knights.

I say this because it's becoming increasingly okay for women to be seen as sluts these days, but the idea of men dating younger women is still seen as creepy.

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Although women are extremely competitive for social status and "the best sperm" between themselves, they have a clustering and protective instinct that it appears men do not.

I imagine it may come from the physical differences/defense/protection etc. i.e. many women banding together are safer than a woman alone.

Men, on the other hand seem to run on an "every sperm for himself" script, again going back to the fact that men have to outshine each other for the woman to select them for breeding.

It's not that "life is unfair", it's that sexual/gender differences truly form the basis for most of our social interaction. If you step back and look at our human behavior as objectively as possible, it becomes quite clear.

This is what TRP is about, taking a clear eyed look at how things actually are and using this information to better our lives as men.

That "society" sees older men/younger women as creepy is yet another social construct, an unwritten rule put into place by females (albeit unconsciously) to protect their place in society.

I am sad to say, the hamster rules the world.

[–]fingerthemoon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Younger men and older women feel threatened by this. Also older men with low smv and younger women with low smv. Only older men with high smv can pull younger women and they're mostly only interested in the ones with high smv. So the vast majority of people stand against this for so many reasons, mostly related to jelousy as only a small percentage will ever enjoy this dynamic. Which is very erotic and the norm in most movies up until the 70s, because an older man naturally has accumulated the character traits and status women desire and a young woman has the traits men desire (no accumulation nesasary obviously).

Historically it was the way of things. In hunter-gatherer tribes it's common for 35yo+ men to marry 14yo girls. Most men wouldn't get the chance to be with a woman until their 30s and have accumulated enough smv.

[–]Insydeinformation points points [recovered]

Women get criticized for being sluts men get criticized for being virgins while women get praised for being virgins.

The double standard is negated right there. The 'creepy' thing is just extra.

[–]fingerthemoon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's not difficult to be a female slut or a male virgin, but it requires strength to be a female virgin or a male stud. It's only natural and everyone knows it, if only subconsciously.

[–]TemperedRhyno 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree completely you see it heavily in the 2nd amendment supporters in the US. Half the arguments the left have were once formed by a guy trying to keep his particular use for the amendment safe.

[–]Returnofthemack3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah life isnt fair for either gender is the thing. Double standards exist for both sides, and some of them have valid reasons for existing.

[–]Heathcliff-- points points [recovered]

The comments on his thread are really really salty. You can see clearly the kind of attacks a woman resorts to when she doesn't know how to respond properly.

"You need more friends"

"You have too much time on your hands"

"You're a bitter loser and can't get laid".

They really are children. They think these kind of insults actually work. Shaming is their go to tactic and they love yo pat themselves on the back when they all group shame together. Bunch of toddlers. Might as well be "you are a stinky poopoo head hahaha!".

[–]1nonthaki 65 points66 points  (8 children)

I think its more that they could be old women and dont like that men are gravitating towards younger women , thereby losing their power in the SMP .

If its the men who replied that , then they are brainwashed female-feet-sucking men .

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (7 children)

rollo has maintained that the single most dangerous thing to the feminine imperative is when men know their SMV. women over 28 are low value and only getting worse, while men at 38 are in their prime.

[–]FractalFactorial 10 points11 points  (6 children)

Idk about as old as 38.

But once you have an established professional career, some notches on your belt, house, experience in the world and socially, you're very high value. For most men that's older. But I'm sure early 30s + are riding just as high.

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 19 points20 points  (3 children)

35 - 50+ if you have decent genes and take care of yourself. Men age like wine. Women whine like age.

[–]fingerthemoon 3 points4 points  (1 child)

"Women whine like age" lololol, never heard that one. The one I heard is women age like milk.

I'm 42 and pulling girls in their early 20s.

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just made that one up.

I'm 57 and have two plates at the moment; 24 yr old (8 months), and 32 yrs old (almost 3 years).

I've been having trouble with the older one and it may be over. I've developed the feelz for her so it hurts but she's gettin' too much power over me and it's time for some fresh.

Carry on Moonfingerer!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

women peak between 20-25. men peak 35-39. that's actual data by human behavior, not some redpill platitude. it's funny how it aligns so much with rollo's SMV graph.

[–]Popular-Culture points points [recovered]

Skipped to the comments. 100% ad-hominen attacks from women.

At this point I'm used to it.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah most say that OP needs friends or has too much time on his hands. One comment that was upvoted quite a lot even says 'TL;DR but I'm guessing OP is a twat.' The person didn't even read the post but is being commended for insulting OP about it. Lol.

[–]ThePedanticCynic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I used to think that too, but since i've delved into the political discussions and started paying attention to reddit i don't think it's women, i think it's leftists and feminist. Their core belief is that women are better than men, and thus deserve more rights than men (which they obviously have), and they have a lot of popular support on reddit. Anytime someone makes a point that in any way counters this notion, even unintentionally, they get denigrated, ostracized, and often even censored.

I think it's the fragile left holding women on a pedestal, not women.

[–]Swiss_Cheese9797 17 points18 points  (4 children)

Unfortunately I think the big problem is that shaming does work, at least enough for them to keep it as a go to tactic.

[–]PlsSendMeSomeNudes points points [recovered]

It works but it only works on weak people.

[–]Gadnuk_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately weak individuals can make a strong majority.

[–]Stythe 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The most amusing thing is that if you don't know this is the typical M.O. You might actually feel stupid. Shit, I dropped a potential plate for recently due to her drama and attitude and she pulled the same thing. It's predictable to a tee.

[–]landon042 4 points5 points  (0 children)

no doubt about it, very entertaining children.

Even though link wont work for me thanks for those quotes lol

[–]Geckobird 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's a lot of this over at the blue pill subreddit. I've gone there several times when I had doubts about trp or wanted to believe it wasn't true, and all I see are pôsts and comments like the one you just made. No valid arguments, they hamster away their own interpretation of trp with nonsensical posts that don't even come close to the reality of them, and you can tell the majority of the population over there is female. Ironically, it just proves trp to be more and more true.

[–]Returnofthemack3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah and the thing is, even if all 3 of those were true, who cares? it doesnt really disprove his point. You know someone has no argument if they resort to ad homs and other shady methods

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can we get this tagged at the top?

And add in that this is a anger phase example?

It shows people that like grief there are stages to the red pill and you need to push forward past the things holding you back, an experiment like this is worth it to read and realize the world isn't fair, but we don't need people to try and live out their revenge fantasies. It is unproductive ( from personal experience it's better to just move on)

[–]RoninUnderground points points [recovered]

This is why I don't understand this sub's obsession with Trump. Almost all he does is playground banter.

[–]bonersNlaughs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If he's shaming someone it's after explaining why and even then I think your talking about his branding crooked hillary, lyin' Ted, goofy Elizabeth Warren etc

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's not an "obsession" to really like something that sets a great example. And the comment regarding playground banter was incorrect.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 95 points96 points  (5 children)

Because you can't slut shame women.... but you can criticism men for being commitment-phobes.

Women have been very effective at shutting down all criticism of themselves. All criticism of women is met with "you are sexist", and men hate to be unfair so they shut up.

Criticism of men is never ending - especially when that criticism is designed to serve the best interests of women.

[–]L04TSK4 points points [recovered]

I think you've just created the term "commitment shaming"

Usage: "don't commitment shame me because you're over the wall and can't find a man"

[–]fingerthemoon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is why argument is pointless and lowers your standing as a man. Demonstrate don't explicate.

By arguing you're falling into female frame. Always remember, communicate covertly not overtly. Those who say do not know and those who know do not say (unless you're on an anonymous Internet forum).

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every word the truth.

"Society" is run and shaped by women. Men are like the moderators but only step in and make corrections when things get completely out of hand, and I mean completely.

[–]bouncebby points points [recovered]

Holy shit.. That sub is fucked

[–]PIGamer86 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Literally 99% of the subs on reddit.

[–]tenix 39 points40 points  (1 child)

This is what America is turning into and most other "western" countries.

[–]perplexedm 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Just wherever feminastism takes hold. Not just west.

[–]bastardstepchild 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There's very little of reddit you couldn't say that about, though.

[–][deleted] 71 points72 points  (8 children)

This is one of those things that's just so absurd when you stop to think about it.

Dudes fucking dudes? Great! Chicks fucking chicks! Great! Dudes fucking chicks who used to be dudes? Great! Older women fucking younger men? Great! Older men fucking younger women? GTFO you creep, you're disgusting.

Only one of these is actually capable of producing offspring, which really is the point of sex in the first place, and it's the only one that gets shamed.

[–]Nymdox 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Man, when you say it that way, it almost sounds like some kind of instinctive behavior toward species-wide suicide.

Maybe we really are seeing a psychological response to population pressure. Like a switch flipped causing people to waste reproductive energy.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah. We don't actually experience population pressure much here in the US. The overpopulation is due almost entirely to the third world. So as a subconscious instinctive behavior, I don't think people in the relatively sparsely populated US would exhibit that.

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would make sense, on a species wide scale. We are dooming our species through overpopulation, a billion at a time. Not enough war, disease, famine? Let's just stop pairing for offspring!

[–]ShavedApel 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Its crazy and very true. I used to live with 3 gay men and a black feminist. I hired a stripper to fuck one night and they all shamed me. Just repeating what you already said here. I'ts no wonder people are trying to blow us up.

Western progressive society 2016:

  • Sodomising men ✓

  • Strong black feminist wants test tube baby after 3 abortions ✓

  • Your 5 year old son wants a sex change better start him on hormone therapy and cut his balls off ✓

  • Sex with young enjoyable woman = Perverted predator preying on young women by providing for them.

[–]Returnofthemack3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yeah seriously. And it should be clear as day to anyone with half a fucking brain what's going on here. That level of hypocrisy is telling

[–]Origami84 47 points48 points  (4 children)

I would not bother to do this experiment.... especially as the results are a given, for readers of this sub.... but the results are still funny to read.

[–]landon042 33 points34 points  (1 child)

I'd say it's just for the lolz m8 op repeatedly says guy could have been improving and that is true, but some times it's hilarious to read

what the hamster comes up with

"oh god he did not just pull that shit, men can't get younger girls because that would make my old ass useless!!! I must shame him, i got it,"

"you probably never get laid loser!"

*go teem wymnzzz woo gurl power we stick togethre

[–]NovaeDeArx 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's not just an age thing, it's a "perceived competition against your group/tribe thing".

Take for example black friends of mine over the years that dated outside their race. A black woman dating a white guy got shit from black guys, and black guys dating white women got shit from black women.

I can't say for sure which was more predominant, but I heard about it more from the black guys dating out-of-race, so that's at least anecdotal evidence that women are more aggressive towards "out-group" women "stealing" "their men".

I've also heard from Asian and Indian guys (I work in the medical world and used to be in the Army, both of which have tremendous diversity in relationships, which is actually pretty cool to experience) among others that they had similar experiences.

Also that the mothers-in-law were somewhat more likely to be disapproving of the cross-race or cross-cultural relationship than the FIL, although we all know that FILs are usually more disapproving of everyone initially... But it also seemed like they were more likely to accept the guy in the medium- to long-term than the MIL, who would be disapproving either for far longer or indefinitely.

[–]yomo86 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You are right. But like hearing 'improve or fail' over and over again it is also necessary, in my opinion, to see the matrix at play every once in a while.

[–]zephyrprime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it is worthwhile to do experiments like this. Most people in the world at large don't believe the ideas that redpill endorses and need hard proof. This experiment provides hard proof for one little issue that is relevent to trp.

[–]questionac 46 points47 points  (9 children)

I don't think there are high value males/females among them, so I don't care about what these people say or think.

I don't think their reality can back up their internet persona.

Oh no, average Jane said I need friends and to get a life. I wouldn't even look at her in real life, why would I care about what she types in a forum and about the other 10 average Janes that support her.

You can't fight those hyenas 1000 to 1 in a forum, and it doesn't matter, in real life is where it's at. And there, miss average Jane, is where you lose.

[–]Duchenne4089 20 points21 points  (2 children)

I don't think there are high value males/females among them

Online dating is so favorable for women, that the only ones stuck on OkCupid year after year are the bottom of the barrel.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 13 points14 points  (1 child)

It's worse than that. High quality women never even make it to online dating.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You'll find some good looking (but not inherently high value) women on Tinder because its a lazy way to get laid. That said, women who are by men's standards high value, don't seek out dick after dick. The really high value women tend to have almost always scored commitment of a decently-valued man and need not seek Alpha dick elsewhere

[–]vagbutters 8 points9 points  (0 children)

in real life is where it's at.

Bingo. Most of these people couldn't even hold a 1 on 1 conversation without stuttering, shaking, or generally being awkward fucks. They're largely ugly outcasts who seldom get laid themselves.

[–]L04TSK4 points points [recovered]

Well said.

Maybe there should be some form of smv verification before someone can comment on one of my posts, instead of getting incessant social programming drivel replies from hambeasts and blue pill choads.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It wouldn't matter, what you're doing is trying to do a hamster buffer. You can't buffer the hamster, it only spins faster. It begins to lie.

[–]gistaminute 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What would you look for in somebody for smv verification?

Photos or video clips, vocal samples, some questions about lifestyle though ideally those could be inferred. Image/video object recognition and text to speech in good conditions are progressing quickly, and Google just made a breakthrough new method for analysis + translation tech. Meaning could be pulled from all the identified objects in the images and various other inferred qualities. We can argue it wouldn't be perfect, but neither is a human snap decision and I think it could be far better than that.

[–]Ozymanberg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

On the nose. These hags are "well spoken" on the forums but I've never seen a female in real life who doesn't just spout memorized lines and resort to shaming when their weak 'arguments' are over. Same goes to the numales, though.

The internet is an idealist paradise. You can be whatever you want anonymously and not live up to a single word you type.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you sir are a dead set legend haha. real life is where it's at son! give me the open mountains and the fresh air any fucking day over salty cunts of things on some dark ass dingy sub. I just love the stone cold reality of TRP. comments like yours are just a breath of fresh air and it's rare to find them anywhere else but this sub. fuck the lot of em.

[–]newflame97 35 points36 points  (14 children)

I wonder how the "Blue Pill" sub will take this post when one of their post wall whales does her daily TRP stalking.

[–]MrAnderzon 27 points28 points  (13 children)

There's a blue pill sub. Why?

[–]keyboardWorrier points points [recovered]

I believe it was created by angry women as a place to whine about this sub

[–]vagbutters 19 points20 points  (3 children)

I remember a day where I was just curious to see what the people of that sub look like. It's exactly what you'd expect-- overweight or scrawny manginas and post-wall, ugly hair dyed women out the wazoo.

Never forget that you're largely talking to beta male types or sluts when it comes to the sorts of people who are part of the feminist culture. Makes you appreciate your own hard work, and how much better you are than them, that much more

[–]thestruggled 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Howd you find out what they look like?

[–]vagbutters 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Look through their post histories; many of them post their personal pictures on reddit. Normally I don't give a fuck, but I was curious to see what kinds of losers were posting there. Beware though, your eyes might burn afterwards.

[–]thestruggled 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just looked at people who commented on a new gifs post about how they react when stumbling on TRP accidentally. I looked at the most raging, angry comments and their post history. Cosplay, lots of video games, and lots of political things like how marijuana is infecting people and how Trump is bad because...slavery?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I read through that sub at times and it is just ridiculous

[–]Returnofthemack3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and absolute loser dudes. On more than one occasion, people taht post there have admitted they were incels or struggling with the opposite sex. Ive spent a pretty minimal amount of time there and on PPD, and even i've seen mutliple instances of that. SO yeah, most of the posters there are unfuckable dudes in need of TRP honestly

[–]thomascoopers 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Don't go there. Trust me. I have never consecutively read so many comments in a row that were absolutely pathetic.

[–]MrAnderzon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Don't push the blue button

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 32 points33 points  (4 children)

This guy is a hypocrite's worst nightmare. Calling people out individually is pretty intense.

It's nice to see he's using his weapons-grade autism for the forces of good.

[–]ShavedApel 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Weapons grade autism thats hilarious.

Autistic people are too logical and struggle with regular people imagine them dealing with hamsters.

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know, it's bad to joke about autism because it can be very debilitating and a huge burden on families.

But I think autists might be able to look at things more objectively because they aren't wearing the "I want to fuck her" blinders 24/7. A lot of people with autism are fixated on patterns and correlations. If sufficiently motivated, they could probably generate a lot of commentary similar to the post OP is referencing.

[–]2comment 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Just another example not to listen to what women say and take it seriously.

[–]Returnofthemack3 53 points54 points  (31 children)

What I hate about that sub, and relationships, and really all the fucking non trp subs that deal with things of a dating/sexual nature, is that they always act as though a guy dating 5, 10 years younger is a fucking abuser or some creep that is taking advantage of young women. Sometimes that is the case, sure, but I just saw a post in relationships disparaging a guy that was fucking 25 dating a 20 year old...when you're shaming men for a reasonable 5 year age gap, you're really losing credibility here. It's also infantilizing women which is kind of ironic given their feminist viewpoints.

I just want to add that I do think it's creepy if you're 30 chasing 18 year olds fresh out of highschool, legal or not. However, I dont think it's a huge deal if a 30 year old is fucking with say, a 23-24 year old (people mad overrate the 'maturity' that occurs post 22 in a woman lol). On these subs, that would be considered 'creepy', and you can expect shaming to occur

[–]1nonthaki 24 points25 points  (5 children)

It's also infantilizing women which is kind of ironic given their feminist viewpoints.

Haha . True . So according to them, women at the age of 20 are children and not capable of handling a relationship or deciding whether they want to have a relationship, with a slightly older man. Funny .

[–]bigk12345 10 points11 points  (1 child)

What is hilarious to me is how they claim these faggots stand up for "equality".

They can't see their own hypocrisies. Because a 20 year old woman must be an idiot and not know what she is doing dating a 40 year year old man. She a young, naive, kid that does not what she wants in life and not responsible for her decisions. Pathetic.

But that 40 year old man. Must be a serious creep and not want to fuck young, beautiful, feminine girls. Why would he do that when there are so many strong, independent post wall hags that need satisfying?

[–]1nonthaki 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Women, especially butthurt women, dont care about others i.e. neither about men nor about other women .

She doesnt like an older man enjoying his smv , neither does she acknowldge if the young girl is happy or okay in the relationship with the older guy .

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 4 points5 points  (1 child)

According to us, women are always (mentally) children. They're just acknowledging a RP truth

[–]Paladin2903 21 points22 points  (1 child)

It's all bitter jealousy. The blue pill guys that lash out are just brainwashed to side with the clams, and they're probably jealous -- in a subconscious level that they might not be aware of.

As far as the women, I think they speak for themselves.... JEALOUSY. Women know they're useless -- especially modern women. All they have is their looks, and as soon as they hit 30, female looks RAPIDLY decline.

So, in an attempt to hold some value, they try to shame men into liking them again. So, they'll of course say, "He must be an abuser, controlling, not grown up, blah, blah, blah." Typical post-wall hen hag shaming tactics.

Nope, I'm none of the above. Sorry, sweeties.

Also, completely agree with you in your age analysis. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a 30 (even as high as 35 or 36) year old guy dating a 23 or 24 year old woman.

Once you're enlightened, you realize that age is just a number. Hell, I've met 18 year old girls that I swear were plucked right from the 1940's, in terms of class and maturity. Not many, unfortunately, but a few. Then I've met 35 year old women who think and act like 15 year old girls. It's maturity that matters.

[–]Returnofthemack3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh they're definitely jealous. They might pretend that the guys on TRP NEVER get laid, but they know in their heart of hearts it's true, because they've lived in this world where chads have outcompeted them time and time again. If you talked to me 10 years ago, you would have met a very bitter and lonely man, who would side against you because he's on the 'right' side LOL. Time and time again, guys that post on blue pill admit that they're forever alone, incel, or struggling with relationships, so it's not just conjecture either.

I still remember that post GLO made, where he showed a topic of a prominent blooper which basically outlined said blooper's sexual frustrations due to being a virgin at 35 or something crazy. So yeah, make no mistake, a lot of bloopers are total fucking losers.

What's ultimately sad about it is that they're all being mislead; they'd likely get the help they need here, but I digress.

[–]I_Need_More_Space_ 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Nothing wrong with 30 chasing 18. Nothing wrong with any age chasing 18. You still have some blue pill crumbs on you, Bro. I'm not attacking. I'm just saying that the RP is about breaking down preconceived ideologies peddled by the Feminist agenda. With that said, do you remember having sex with the 18-19 age group? No wrinkles. Body is tight. Face is fresh. Why not go after that? Why go after jaded + wrinkled + buried in debt?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Jaded is the key word. Young women are just more fun. Older women are more likely to be entitled starfish.

[–]askmrcia 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Its funny really. Women claim that they mature MUCH faster and are matured by the time they are 18 while boys don't mature until 26 (their words).

If that's true, then how can some mature woman that is 18 years old allow herself to be controlled by some guy that's older? Makes no sense.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Churchill: "Madam, would you sleep with me for five million pounds?"

Socialite: "My goodness, Mr. Churchill... Well, I suppose... we would have to discuss terms, of course... "

Churchill: "Would you sleep with me for five pounds?"

Socialite: "Mr. Churchill, what kind of woman do you think I am?!"

Churchill: "Madam, we've already established that. Now we are haggling about the price”

Much like the socialite, you've established yourself as someone who shames men for desiring young women but it's just the age gap that we're haggling over.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (3 children)

One second, women are powerful and can take on the world. In the next, they're doe-like creatures that can be manipulated if they date a guy 5 years older than them.

WTF?

I agree, a 40 year old shouldn't be dating an 18 year old. Legally, he can fuck her and if he wants to fuck her, go right on head. But it's weird to date with that much of an age gap. I get that part. But a 30 year old dating a 24 year old is not creepy. My grandfather was 28 when he married my grandma who was 21. He wasn't a creepy old man. They were married for 60 years and had 7 kids together. FOH.

[–]vagbutters 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I agree, a 40 year old shouldn't be dating an 18 year old. Legally, he can fuck her and if he wants to fuck her, go right on head. But it's weird to date with that much of an age gap.

I strongly disagree with this. Why shouldn't a 40 year old, or even a 60 year old fuck younger women if he can? The only time I'd have a problem with this is in a gold digger type scenario.

Men age like wine-- we don't need to compromise our sexuality because we age in a shitty way like women do.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, I also don't even care about gold diggers. If an old man likes young poon enough to stake his fortune on it, that's his call to make. Men work to get laid, and a young trophy wife is just striking while her iron is hot.

[–]Diabolo_Advocato -5 points-4 points  (13 children)

I stick with the dating age equation,

((Your age)/.5~rounded up)+7= your dating minimum

So for a 30 year old is 22

30/.5=15+7=22

This equation hold true for a vast vast majority of people due to priorities, life expectations, earning potential, and maturity.

For maximum, age

((Your age)-7)*2= your maximum

30-7=23*2=46

So there is the age range for a 30 year old; 22 to 46

[–]rock_or_something69 19 points20 points  (5 children)

No matter how old you are dating 18-24 yo women is fun. I'm 44 and my last three plates were 22, 20, 18. My current GF is 33 and I occasionally tease her that she's too old for me. She loves it.

[–]PlsSendMeSomeNudes points points [recovered]

I'm 27 and according to your thing my cut off should be 21. Fuck that, I'm currently fucking an 18 year old and a 19 year old and I've never been happier. I'm not going to limit who I fuck because a bunch of losers think it's "creepy"

[–]Diabolo_Advocato -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

It's a dating algorithm, not a fuck/plate algorithm.

If your goal is other than a serious dating arrangement than this will not apply. Also note that I said a vast majority. On a website with hundreds of thousands or millions of unique visitors, there will bound to be several people that don't fit the majority.

Also of note, 18 and 19 year olds are easy, I've had some myself. They are low hanging fruit because a majority that sleep around don't want a serious relationship anyway. While you have 2 plates, they have 3 times as many at any given moment.

[–]DigitallyDisrupt 12 points13 points  (0 children)

30/.5 is the same as 30 times two.

You need to go to the School for Kids Who Can't Math Good and Want to Do Other Stuff

The proper expression is age times 0.5, or age divided by two.

[–]AlCapown3d 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You clearly skipped math class.

[–]-uftw- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude you do realize the mental gymnastics you're imposing on your own dating life?

Give me just one good reason to put restrictions on the opportunities life gives you?

Never heard a bigger pile of bullshit than this artificial "half + 7" rule I keep hearing about everywhere. Knew someone would bring it up here.

lol you've been trolled by feminists dude

[–]Buchloe 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Man. I want to message the dude and say welcome to the red pill, buddy.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Nothing beta about the OP. The fact that he had a major life inflection point and is taking some time to gaze in astonishment isnt surprising nor does it detract from his masculinity

I woke up from the Bluepill slumber and went on a milf plowing tear and was called angry and trying to seek revenge

In actuality, I was like Tom Hanks in The Castaway when he was resuced and kept flicking the lighter to see how easy it COULD be to create fire if one has access to the right tools

[–]WallStRogue 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Wow.. this okcupid comminity is full of loser women. Not to mention their blatant hipocrisy.

[–]AnindoorcatBot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

These are the kind of people that seek out to talk about online dating.

[–]TravelingShitLord 12 points13 points  (0 children)

People's inability to separate story-mode from facts over there shows me how brainwashed they are. A good sized group was just talking about all the red flags he was throwing up without being able to recognize that he just said he copy and pasted the whole thing with slight changes for the gender swap.

I got asked about the age thing a few weeks back by a college girl at a bar. Her friend was there with a dude that was around 40. She asked if it was weird because of the age difference and I said, "Nope. It's actually the more natural state of things." That got me smile and submissive look down.

[–]The__Tren__Train 30 points31 points  (2 children)

who fucking cares?

women love double standards.. by caring what they think, you are letting them win.

you better be tan, shredded, and educated if you have the time to waste on this shit.

[–]TeflonDon3000 9 points10 points  (1 child)

"...perhaps a BP-ish thing to do"

Then why the fuck are we reading this horseshit?

Yea let me get upset about another double standard... LoL no

[–]prodigy2throw 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The guys commenting are the best part. They all claim TRP is a joke yet when you go into their history it's clear they are all struggling and getting more depressed by the day with their lack of success.

[–]colucci 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Bah. I'm a mod on tinder, I'm so happy I don't have to deal with bullshit like this.

[–]FractalFactorial 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That is some really fucking pathetic shit. A good 90% of it is just "LOL you're just an insecure, manchild, who can't get pussy" to which OP responds "actually I'm a young guy who has a healthy sex life" only to have them all resort to "LOOK! He's compensating about his sex life he MUST be lying to look manly despite being a loser! After all, who would talk about their sex life like that to brag!"

So fucking stupid. Not to mention all the retards who seem to have deluded themselves into believing that older women are just as attractive as younger women".

[–]VickVaseline 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Something was bothering me about that title, but I couldn't figure out what it was. Then it hit me: 50 RPM isn't actually all that fast for a real hamster wheel lol

[–]CuriousFloyd points points [recovered]

It's fast considering how much work fat legs need to do

[–]TW10101 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You do research for gender inequality which benefits men and you're a hero for pointing out women are oppressed and that there's an issue.

Do research for men and you're a weirdo with too much time who needs to get laid hahahaha.

[–]MrBellsprout123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whatever. To us on TRP its no surprise.

[–]daff4op 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I cannot comprehend how a person can be so irrational and delusional. These people get called out for their double standards and yet, they refuse to admit they are wrong. They refuse to improve their viewpoint and make up arguments ad hominem or act as if it's no big deal. It's a sad condition, insane people and fanatics have the same symptoms. Truth is, society will judge people no matter what, a stoic man should focus on his goals, although the thread was entertaining to read.

[–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow I'm surprised this is still a thing. I'm a 40-year old man, was at a friend's Bday party two nights ago, spent about an hour chatting up a beautiful 21-year old, got her number, have already traded a few texts, date forthcoming. Wasn't a big deal, didn't think about the age difference, didn't even occur to me, or anyone else there.

Fact is women are aging much faster these days, thanks to the Millennial penchant for rampant promiscuity. Today a 21-year old woman has likely already had far more sexual experience (and partners) than a jaded 40-year old would have had just a generation ago. Women can deny it all they want, but the fact is, this DOES age women at a much faster rate. You can see it in their eyes (the so-called "thousand cock stare"), you can feel it in their energy. And you can certainly tell in the bedroom.

A friend of mine asked me just recently what my dating age range was (we were talking about Tinder and he wanted to know what settings I was using). He said "For you like 25 to 33 right?" (Note he's already assuming a much younger spread.) I laughed and was like "Bro, 18 to 27. And to be honest, 27's a little old for me these days, really you want to concentrate on the late teens / early twenties." He nodded. "Yeah, that sounds about right."

Re: the post above, it seems like it's actually less about him (hypothetically) wanting to date a younger woman, and more about him calling the women out on their double standard (women HATE this). Fact is, if you're an older guy who dates younger (which, if you're smart, and especially if you're Red, you should be doing), it's usually fine, if you just laugh and shrug and totally own your process (FRAME). If you don't care then no one else will either.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is no fixed morality. It's merely what people want it to be. That's why it's ok to lie, cheat, and steal whenever you want. A burning society is a good thing.

[–]colucci 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Try the sex subreddit next. I got banned from there for saying polyamory is a fetish that should not be legal.

[–]cptspiffy points points [recovered]

Not to derail, but why do you believe this? I get the "it's bad for society overall, reproductive issues, etc" argument, but haven't we (rightly) tossed all that out the window with gay marriage anyway? As long as everyone is a consenting adults, I don't see how it's anyone else's business. Individuals should not be forced to compromise thier personal relationships for the "benefit" of society.

[–]colucci -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

Allowing homosexuals to marry is not what is bad for society, but rather its normalization. I am completely for inclusiveness and accepting homosexuals as part of our society, insofar that homosexuality does not get normalized or subsidized (which happens through diversity quotas and LGBTQ professional group memberships).

I see it as a slippery slope. You normalize homosexuality, you legalize gay marriage, then you start normalizing completely absurd deviant sexual behaviours such as polyamory and pedophilia. So no, I don't think we've tossed it all out the window, there's a lot more to toss out until western states become shadows of their former glory.

The main area where we seem to disagree is that individuals should not be forced to compromise personal relationships for the benefit of society. I imagine humanity as a human body, and humans as individual cells. You have a function to perform in this body. You can't be a white blood cell and be like "well fuck it, I don't want to work, I should make myself happy, not make the body happy". Such thinking will erode the whole society.

[–]areq13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OK, society's a body. The rest of us have democratically decided that you're the bladder. So do your duty and start drinking piss!

[–]CalfReddit 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. If people are homosexual or polyamory, who cares. Let them be, it's their own business. The idea that they shouldn't be allowed to do that because of society is nonsense.

[–]colucci 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay mate whatever makes you sleep at night

[–]thelasttime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The modern morality is that maximizing pleasure is fine unless it does direct harm to someone else. The idea that something should not be encouraged as it will reduce the stability of society is pure evil to them.

Even on TRP where readers tend to jerk themselves off to the idea that they can unemotionally engage with any idea, the responses you'll get are just empty witticisms.

[–]RedMoonAscendant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whatever. I like fucking many women, and society is better off for my contributions anyway, and your weird Christian morals aren't useful.

[–]GoogleItt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rollo did this in The Rational Male too

[–]JustDoMeee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read this and thought surely it's not gonna be all bad comments towards the OP, because he clearly did his research and made a good experiment to show his finding.

But, FUCK ME, that sub is a shithole, fuck them, the way they were ganging up on him and then mocking him. Total fucking cunts.

[–]WallStRogue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just read a couple of topics in their sub and.. 80% low energy beta losers, 20% entitled bitches. Wow.. what a wasteland.

[–]RedditAdminsSuck_88 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Age gaps are blue pilled nonsense. Age gaps being creepy is a mantra perpetuated by post wall women who are angry and bitter because men their age pass them over and instead go for younger pieces of ass that haven't hit the wall yet.

The women who complain about men going for younger women probably didn't have any problem going for older men when they were pre-wall.

I wasted my college years because I thought as a 22 year old senior it was a gross and creepy to try and approach 18 year old freshmen.

[–]pixels625 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cute cats solve all problems! http://imgur.com/a/NuVGn

[–]newName543456 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, most of that sub is apparently made of morons.

HOW DARE people actually have preferences of any kind? Oh right, it goes like this: if you don't like their preferences, you are allowed to shame them. But if anyone shames someone for having preferences you're OK with, the shaming ones are the one with a problem.

Aka liberal hypocrisy in a nutshell. Everyone can have preferences, except for the ones you disagree with. Then it's shaming contest.

[–]tio1w 0 points1 point  (1 child)

And the post has been removed.

I'd like to know whether that was OP or the mods.

[–]richblackman74 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My gosh that sub is a toxic shit hole may it burn in hell

[–]Katavasis -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Nah,come on you guys. You can't draw the conclusion for double standards from this. I am not denying it exist of course,but:

1)The commenters on the original post are not the commenters on the gender swapped. 2)The comments on the gender-swapped and the original thread are both bad and good.Of course,we can observe the classic reaction when an older man dates a younger woman.But as i said i cannot observe double standards. 3)The average guy fucks everything with a hole,no standards.That's why they may be ok with cougars,but not the other way around.So we don't really see them in the gender swapped thread.

Now,the thread where he 'exposes' them,is kinda fun and some comments are salty as fuck.

I am not questioning the existence of double standards.But i am sad that you put everything into a certain narrative,while it doesn't apply here.

inb4 i get downvoted,from salty 20year old hehe xD

[–]primo_pastafarian points points [recovered]

Refuting point #1: the sample size is large enough to show a clear indication of gender bias between the two threads.