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Called Off Wedding - Became Irresistible (self.TheRedPill)

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I can describe what led to me calling it off in another post at some point (it's a story that might help other guys get out of a bad situation, mine was certainly bad), but for now I want to share my experience on what life has been like since calling off my wedding last spring.  I've been reading stories on this thread for months, and I think mine is worth adding to the mix.  I'll summarize here some of the highlights of my awakening to Red Pill awareness, and hopefully provide motivation to what is possible for other guys looking to make a change out there.  Awesome as it is, this transformation has, for me, been nothing short of bizarre.  

Having been involved with this woman for 4 years, and more or less out of the game for a few years before that, as I focused on myself and building my career, I was nothing short of ASTOUNDED at the sea change in my SMV at age 29 relative to where it had been in my early 20's.  What I perceived to be mild changes in my maturation have proven to be exponentially powerful in the dating market.  Six years ago I was tall, a former college athlete, and pretty socially savvy, but getting the girls I wanted still seemed fairly difficult. Now that I'm more prosperous and truly don't give a fuck (plus older), it's almost a joke.  I see all the women around my age are so obviously nervous about hitting the impending wall, and so desperate to latch onto a man, that getting laid is only marginally harder than going to the gym.  Younger and older women too, with their own motivations. 

About a month after calling it off, I was encouraged to begin what was for me the unnatural process of spinning plates (referred to among my friend group as 'maintaining a rotation').  Older guys in my life told me I needed to shop around, which I'd never really been comfortable doing.  Once I got comfortable with non exclusivity (which didn't take long, since calling off my wedding killed any concept of oneitis), I began openly bragging about my rotation in social settings.  I did this in large part just to humor the married and LTR guys, only to find, again to my astonishment, that this dramatically increased my attractiveness to women, who wanted to know more, and even recommended girls I should go out with.  When I went out with any new girls, as a matter of decency (at least this is how I rationalized it at first), I told every single one, on the first encounter, that I had called off my wedding and some of the reasons why.  Originally I expected to encounter revulsion (blue pill conditioning), but found instead that this gave them tingles.  I now understand that I was projecting a kind of unbreakable frame - one of a man who simply will not compromise on his principals and self interest.  The shit tests I read about on here don't really pop up much from the women I see.  I attribute it to dropping this simple fact.  Every woman I see knows that I was willing to walk away from a god damn wedding (to a woman I once loved) due to bad behavior, so why on earth would I ever put up with petty bullshit from some plate??  After things get sexual and I see their attachment escalating, I also tell every single girl the following, more or less verbatim - "look, let's be adults, as we continue to see each other there may be reasons you discover where you don't want to see me anymore and reasons I decide I don't want to see you.  I need you to know that now that I am single I intend to be with other women and shop around, are you fine with that?"  Invariably they've all said yes, some with a bit of reluctance.  But with that affirmation in order, I've more recently been dropping this next bomb (which I started to do somewhat out of pride but more to just amuse myself) - "well that's good to hear you can handle me being with other women, but just know that if you are with another man, I want you to tell me and I don't want to see you anymore.  In fact, I hope you burn in hell."  I say this last part with amused mastery.  The handful of times I've done this, I continue to remain in disbelief that they just giggle and agree (not that I expect them to hold up to this, I'm not a fool).  The conversation then goes elsewhere.  I also just want a ready made excuse to kick them out of the rotation when I don't fancy them anymore.  I've regularly maintained four girls in rotation.  I read some of you guys maintain more, but the logistics just get mind numbing for me.  I've drifted away and dropped some (who continue reaching out fairly regularly to me) only to add others. I've also been amused by the fact that each of them has, in her own way, tried to monopolize my time and affection despite my ground rules.  

Having been Mr. Monogamy for years with my ex and a few exes before that, and without any kind of genuine appreciation or support for doing so, I've been blown away (and at times even disgusted) by the truly pliable nature of women.  Like many other men, I experienced a phase of anger and resentment, but I am so much wiser now thanks in large part to the Red Pill. 

As I approach 30 years old, in great shape, with social savvy and a good job, I could not be happier to be a Red Pill aware man who dodged a shotgun blast and instead accepted the true nature of intersexual dynamics.  Also, the bar for me entering a monogamous relationship is quite high now that I understand the reality of AWALT, and have generally lost respect for most women's value as an LTR or wife.  


[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 138 points139 points  (43 children)

I was nothing short of ASTOUNDED at the sea change in my SMV at age 29 relative to where it been in my early 20's. What I perceived to be mild changes in my maturation have proven to be exponentially powerful in the dating market. Six years ago I was tall, a former college athlete, and pretty socially savvy, but getting the girls I wanted still seemed fairly difficult. Now that I'm more prosperous and truly don't give a fuck (plus older), it's almost a joke.

I'd welcome you to the mountaintop, but you're not quite there, yet. Wait until you hit your "Dirty 30s".

[–]Ragnarrrrr points points [recovered]

Tell me, tell me what happens.

[–]Profdiddy 47 points48 points  (9 children)

At almost 40, I can attest that things have only gotten better over time. That is, if you make the right moves and build the life and mind you deserve.

[–]wiseprogressivethink 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Kind of an important caveat...

[–]NihilistMonkey 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Well yeah, that's at the core of TRP. Women want men who are successful, powerful, unbreakable, attractive. You work on those things, you get women. You fuck around for 20 years and now you're an obese Walmart cashier. Nobody wants the obese middle aged dude with no prospects or ambitions. Unless they are also obese, middle aged, and with no prospects or ambitions. Even then it's not really what they want it's just what their SMV can negotiate.

[–]__ROOSTER__ 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I'm over 50, it hasn't stopped getting better and easier

[–]1htbf 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Let me guess, rule number one is to stay non exclusive. Right?

[–]Rommel0502 1 point2 points  (0 children)

48 here. Every year better than the last.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What would you say are the right moves and built life you speak of?

[–]clme 12 points13 points  (28 children)

The dude is worried that aging will steal his looks and falls prey to the Freudian mechanism of reaction formation whereby he begins to portray aging as supposedly increasing attractiveness. Nope, doesn't work that way.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (25 children)

virtually all guys increase in SMV through mid 30s. after you hit 40, you have to work to keep it up (mostly fitness related).

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 18 points19 points  (7 children)

When a man looks at a woman, her SMV in his eyes is largely - basically entirely - dependent on her facial and body symmetry, her waist-to-hips ratio and whether she has long hair or not.

When a woman looks at a man, his SMV in her eyes includes his physical attractiveness, but also includes other things such as intelligence, confidence, status, etc. - and as a man who is not particularly handsome I say "Thank God for that!"

Now, as a man ages, he will still have more and generally better options if he keeps fit, of course. But that's not 100% of the game.

Also, a man in his 30s finds out (if he did not know before) that there is a subset of women that digs older guys. Really there are 3 types of young women:

A. Those that only want a man near their own age, and the thought of a guy more than four years older is "grody" or whatever the kids say.

B. Those that prefer a man near their own age, but are open to an older man.

C. Those that actively prefer an older lover.

The girls in that third group have to keep their preferences quiet because the girls in the first group shame them for it. So the trick for older men, at least those that prefer Sweet Young Things, is to learn the signs to distinguish the girls in the third group from those in the second.

[–]BreathOfDick 6 points7 points  (4 children)

is to learn the signs to distinguish the girls in the third group from those in the second.

Cmon you can't end with that cliffhanger

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Patience. Top-level post is coming.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Just posted: "Older Men, Younger Women." Enjoy.

[–]swimngolf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yup, that was it! Ignore my comment above.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A girl who wants to smash won't fail to make it obvious if you have red pill knowledge and a basic ability to observe behavior. Body turned towards you, listens closely to what you say, laughs at your weak jokes, eye contact longer than necessary followed by a sly and shy look down, follows your lead, goes along with or initiates an isolation play., kinos you, brings up sex (as in I would never have sex with an older guy- proper response, slow down I haven't decided if I like you yet. she will still shit test. Just watch her actions and don't listen to her words.

[–]swimngolf 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This was from another post I think?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have posted similar things before, and then incorporated the above in my top-level "Older Men, Younger Women" post, so while I may rest on laurels, they are my own laurels. /grin

[–]clme 21 points22 points  (16 children)

But it' not BECAUSE of aging that they increase in SMV, it's IN SPITE OF IT, because they use the elapsed time to improve, so the curve of improvement is steeper and masks the underlying slope of biological decline. As the body ages, eventually the improvements can no longer mask the underlying slope of biological degradation, but the slope has been there all along.

[–]rubenbrasil 7 points8 points  (14 children)

Im still trying to figure out if its the male hamster saying the SMV increases past 30. Im a young man so Im probably naive but I have a high SMV and I can outpull older more successful guys with more game then me due to my looks alone. Im fucking broke and have decent game but im no veteran like these 40 year old dudes.

Maybe the older guys who experience more SMV as they age had a low SMV in their 20s and thats why they feel that way.

But what about the really really good looking 20 year olds who are blessed with good genes? I think they are the exception that lower SMV as they age since it will be hard to recreate their SMV from their prime.

[–]clme 10 points11 points  (5 children)

Exactly, if you check all the boxes in your 20s, the downhill of aging will reduce your SMV because you have no box to check to compensate, as it were. If you are fat or poor in your 20s, and hit the gym in your 30s and get a great job, then yes, your SMV will increase in your 30s, but again, not BECAUSE of aging, but IN SPITE OF IT (in that the improvements in SMV brought about by weight loss and higher income overshadow and exceed the underlying biological degradation). No way to escape the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Nah, the people who check the boxes in their 20s are lottery winning rare. The average guy in his 30s has astronomically more power and wealth than in his 20s. Lifting can make up for some of that but a wealthy guy in his 30s who lifts smokes a not wealthy guy in his 20s who lifts

[–]rubenbrasil 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Thats what happens with some bitches. They eat like shit and are skinny fat in their 20s and still get dick but never max out their potential. They hit the wall at 32, and start crossfitting 5x/wk and get in their best shape of their life despite being post-wall. They may think they are in their prime, but had they applied that effort at 21 they would know its not their true "prime"

I didnt know it was called the 2nd law of thermodynamics - may have to look into that stuff because ive thought of that concept plenty of times before

I think theres a rare exception that some men seriously do look better at 40 even if they went 100% at 25. Some guys just age really, really well. That is usually NEVER the case with women - cant even think of 1.

[–]P1000123 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Well being an older male tends to "alpha-ness" that younger men just cannot have. Having total command over a situation, person. "The boss" level, just doesn't happen when you are a young, hot guy. Women like manly men and being bossmade comes with age.

[–]rubenbrasil 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is exactly what my gut feeling was telling me. Thanks for that. Its that old man strength.

We have been conditioned through evolution (or perhaps society) to view older men as manly, even if they are technically smaller. I think thats wired in us from birth.

[–]useyourmouth 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I went from high SMV in early 20s, to low SMV in late 20s, back to high SMV in mid 30s.

While young (college) like you, I could pull young party girls with no effort, despite being poor, because I was tall, good looking, athletic, and always getting into zfg fun. In my mid twenties, I tore my knee, and then got fat while being married and constantly being in the library while in pursuit of a graduate degree, so my SMV dropped way off. Now, through my mid 30s, I've found trp, gotten back in shape/lifting, am bigger and stronger than I was in college, have better style, am a professional, and am improving amused mastery game. I feel like my SMV is comparably high to where it was in my early 20s, but for some different reasons and as a very different man.

As a man, you are blessed with the ability to have more than one prime.

That said, you can probably still outpull me in most crowds, but I cannot say that I would give a damn.

[–]rubenbrasil 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Gotcha. I say this because a young 20 year old can pull a HB9 21 year old classmate just off decent game even with some flaws here and there. But for a 40 year old to pull the same HB9 21 year old at the supermarket (for example) he has to have way more notches on his belt to make up for the aging.

Im already going damn near 100% with meal prep and lifting - played D2 college football and am now doing physique shows so theres no way im gonna be bigger as I age. Im 22 btw. I may hop on Testosterone and get tatted with sleeves in my 40s to give me an edge and that should keep me in the game a lot longer.

I dont wanna be "ripped for a 40 year old" - I wanna be more ripped than ripped 20 year olds in their prime.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There comes a point when you'll be a 'trying too hard' skeezball. The manager at the bar I work at is 44, his local gf is 24. He doesn't do shit but be himself. His genetically gifted. I had a 20 yr old fuckbuddy most of last year, while I was living in a guesthouse. Just be natural, work with your age, not against it.

[–]Returnofthemack3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...I mean, if you're naturally handsome and take care of yourself, well no shit dude. I'm sure if Vasiely was naturally handsome, he'd be able to claim the same (he admits he's not conventionally attractive). People with good genetics usually win out, that doesn't really detract from whatever anyone else is saying though

and lol no, if you look GREAT now, and you take care of yourself, if anything you'll be able to pull even better than teh guys talking about it here. Good genes and maintaining your health can extend all the way to your late 60s. Good genes are an insane advantage dude

[–]BoyWhoreWithASword 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really good looking guys obviously aren't the norm.

You think a 20 year old guy who's short and ugly is pulling tons of bitches cuz of his "youth"? What a silly post.

Really good looking guys are an exception. Not only that but men don't age like shit if they take care of themselves. It's not like a 30 or 35 yr old is considered uglier than a 20 yr old if they both have decent bodies and hair.

[–]Moldy_Gecko -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Yes, Capt. Obvious. If you're that blessed, what brought you here? I'd say majority here probably look good (I always have), but had no confidence. You seem to apparently have/had no problem with women, so you're here to humblebrag or what?

That being said, I've easily outgamed younger guys. I'm 33, but still pass for mid-late 20s and some of these kids just don't know. I bartend part-time and when talking to these young guys it's really eye-opening how clueless and sad most of them are.

[–]rubenbrasil 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Am I not raising a valid point? Just because it doesnt apply to 90% of redditors (who may stereotypically speaking have bad genetics) doesnt mean its not to be discussed. No need to be snappy, brother. I grew up confident but bluepilled with bitches. Im half samoan and we really view relationships in a bluepilled light - more than western culture. I can send a pic if you want in your PM's.

I think 30's+ mainly just get more confidence and life experience which makes them attractive and less likely to make stupid mistakes. While at the same time being young enough to pass for 20's as long as you work out.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point was, I don't think it's the male hamster. I never had the kind of access to mid-20s or younger women in my 20s. Not until finding seddit and TRP did I get anywhere. And I'm nowhere near as fit as you. I think it's also easier for men to not give a fuck. In this last year alone, I've had 25ish different girls, so new pussy isn't something I really crave anymore, which is what brings new pussy. This is one of the things with TRP; once you get to the point where it works everytime, you don't need or crave the benefits of it anymore. In fact, it kind of ruins it for ya. Knowing there is no unicorn and how love is produced makes it so every new relationship is meaningless except for the sex, which is meaningless too.

Anyway, my bad for being a dick. A lot of guys come here pretending they're hot shit for the sake of it with little contribution. Good luck with your endeavours.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah, chicks legit dig dudes in their 30s. Still young enough that you're not looked at as old, and old enough to be 'mature'.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Turned 33 last year, pretty much hit my age in Notches last year alone. Not to mention the 3 already this year and a few more on hold until we can meet up. TRP helped me realise I needed to divorce after a year trying to fix it. I've done more nasty shit in this last year than the other 32 combined.

[–]brinkleybuzz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. This is the age where if you stay fit and on top of your game, you continue to get better while most of the competition goes into free fall.

[–]SlothBabby 123 points124 points  (12 children)

I told every single one, on the first encounter, that I had called off my wedding and some of the reasons why. Originally I expected to encounter revulsion (blue pill conditioning), but found instead that this gave them tingles.

A friend of mine dumped a semi-well-known instagram model he was dating a year or so ago and when she made a teary-eyed video about him dumping her and being mean to her that all her followers saw, I thought he'd get ROASTED by the girls in our social circle... instead they all became visibly more attracted to him, and he slept with at least 2 of them. It's honestly amazing to see how women react when a guy actually demonstrates that he has standards and an abundance mentality.

[–]Duchenne4089 41 points42 points  (10 children)

instagram model

I don't have instagram and I keep reading this here. What does it mean? Random girls posting pictures or real full-time models that take care of their social media accounts?

[–]Lo-G 56 points57 points  (8 children)

And IG model means a girl who has enough followers on Instagram that she can sustain herself just by posting pictures and promoting products on instagram. The cutoff point for this would be about 20.000-30.000 followers or so. This also means that the girl has to be hot enough to gather that many followers.

[–]AmbrosiaFarms 42 points43 points  (4 children)

Don't forget to mention they usually use their fanbase to market shitty "health based" pyramid scheme companies.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Well yeah, tagging clothing brands and having sugar daddies aren't the only ways they can make money

[–]Mildly_Sociopathic 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Or having Saudi princes take a dump on you.

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Don't forget tagthesponsor

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haven't forgotten it. Dudes, remember who owns the yachts those models pose on and how the women pay to use them. Those women are nothing special, they're literally whores

[–]vagbutters 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I think it speaks volumes about the state of our society when a slut can literally market her face/body out to sexually desperate men and other sluts like herself. She literally just has to exist and take selfies.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This has been going on forever. It's just the platforms and channels have changed the way it works.

[–]flashbang123 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This is just another reason why you need to ditch social media. Stop giving these attention whores your most valuable asset - YOUR attention.

[–]HuddsMagruder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Most of them are prostitutes who overestimate their value and cater to the oil-rich in the Middle East.

[–]PragmaticRedTruth points points [recovered]

only to find, again to my astonishment, that this dramatically increased my attractiveness to women, who wanted to know more, and even recommended girls I should go out with.

This is how I have had an astronomical amount of threesomes and slept with the amount of women I have.

This has some serious weight to it, because social proof itself, even blatantly bragging about this, has caused women around me to bowed down and worship...

See how men look for untapped resources (the hot chick who doesn't know she is hot and has little to no partners) where women love a man who has options. Crazy how that plays out...

I have used snapchat and taken plenty of pictures with my honest plates just to receive messages from the other plates telling me she was cute, and asking how I was lol.

[–]1EgocentricMegaloMan 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Unfuckingbelievable how accurate this is. Snapchat is a great tool that you can MANIPULATE towards a narrative. I constantly have my plates and even ONS on my snap story, I'm always having fun, and being 100% positive. The great thing is, is that is social proof in itself.

Anyone can take a good picture for Instagram, tweet something witty, or create a Facebook post to generate attention, however, snap stories are real time. It seems the more fun I'm having (perceived feelz) generate more female attention (status=tingles). No shame in my snapchat game

[–]tailz69 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yep!! I do this all the time. Snap chat is key. I post a video with girls I'm with and I just recently got from a plate "hope your having fun with that girl" at 5am cause she saw my snap with her dancing at a hotel. Next time she came over she said she was super nervous and it's unlike her. She saw my ex gf on snapchat as well so she knows I got hot girls and she sent me a nude now cause she's trying to prove herself. I also tell girls and show abundance it really works well everyone

[–]Scandinavianredpill 12 points13 points  (0 children)

great read. it seems like you have become a man of high SMV. congratulations my friend. keep improving your life! I also find it funny how much you can toy around with women towards the tailend of their 20ties, most of them start to become a bit desperate. It's just funny those wimminz magazines refuse to take up that subject even though half their readers are finding themselves in this situation.

[–]mrp_1844 20 points21 points  (7 children)

Okay, did the red pill have anything to do with you calling off the wedding?

[–]quickeddie points points [recovered]

No. Mustering the backbone to do it was miraculous, given why white knighting behavior throughout the relationship. It wasn't some glorious thing either. I experienced a level of heartbreak that was pretty much unbearable, killing the relationship (and I guess my inner beta too). Guys here who've had a broken heart know what I mean.

[–]mrp_1844 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Well you dodged a bullet then.

[–]purduered 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Wait so what exactly happened for you to call it off? You stated bad behavior, but nothing further. The way you describe it makes it seem like it was really hard for you to do, but it had to be done.

[–]quickeddie points points [recovered]

There was no cheating, but there was a tremendous amount of disrespect. Another post, another time

[–]Kaldur_ahm 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I'd love to hear the full story. This was a good post non the less.

[–]XZTALVENARNZEGOMSAYT 6 points7 points  (0 children)

OP I would like to hear the full story as well. Great post btw

[–]dawnlander points points [recovered]

[–]BoalG 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I've posted this before on TRP, but one of the best things about this sub is we don't knock each other down or call someone out for bragging... It's part of the process. We want to be successful in this world and we read these success stories as inspiration, not bragging. It's actually really encouraging. Props to OP.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

this. when a guy gets to a certain maturity, it's not about bashing other people. we want to know what works and what doesn't so we can try it ourselves and improve.

[–]AvengerSentinel 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Inspirational fucking post man!

Am looking forward to you writing a new post and going into detail as to why you called off your wedding.

[–]Goateeki points points [recovered]

I'd suggest that the women who showed interest or curiosity after learning that you're in several non-exclusive relationship were not invested in maintaining that non-exclusivity. What they saw, I think, was an opportunity to exploit that quality of your life in hopes of creating an exclusive arrangement with you for themselves or a friend.

I believe that in almost all cases, the attraction a woman has to a man can be reduced the the most practical terms. A man's continued non-exclusivity is not in any individual woman's best interest, because it represents a dilution of your resources, resources she wants.

My thought is that the only exception might be the rare case of deep conversion, and that, from a male perspective, is rationing your attention -- complete, undiluted attention -- and mind bending sex. This is the equivalent of heroin to a woman, and these two things rationed properly (absolute attention and rough, transgressive sex) will yield you a woman whose mind works the way an abused spouse'a mind might work.

The deeply converted woman might also be compared to the protagonist in one of those 70's undercover narcotics cop movies where the good guy is captured by the bad guy and involuntarily made into a heroin addict. There has to be at least one movie like that...

The thing I find so intriguing about deep conversion is that though the woman's mind begins to operate like an addict, or an abused spouse, it's an arrangement that she comes to entirely voluntarily and ultimately works to maintain. The human mind is an amazing thing.

I think you probably already know this and I don't mean to come across as lecturing -- I'm not, and I think that one of the very interesting things about TRP is that we're dealing with something that is often so nebulous and hard to define.

[–]fire0001 points points [recovered]

what the actual fuck.. you're advocating manipulating women into becoming an "abused spouse"? this takes the cake for one of the more fucked up TRP comments I've read

[–]Goateeki points points [recovered]

You cringe real easily. Can you be more specific? What's cringeworthy or creepy about it?

Do you disagree with anything I've said? My reasoning? If you disagree with what I've said, tell me that you do and then give me the reasons that you do. Make an argument. Offer support.

[–]jr_smithsghost points points [recovered]

Goddamn. What a solid post my fellow Red Piller. I'm 28 and getting into the game late (n=10) mainly due to being in graduate school for so long but I see myself going in this direction with graduation and career moves coming up.

[–]awayofthought 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm 28 and getting into the game late (n=10)

You're doing better than most men. You'll be fine.

[–]NullCorp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As a 24 year old, stuff like this is helpful for me to read as my daily dose of Red Pill.

[–]StudntRdyTeachrApear 3 points4 points  (0 children)

God this is fucking amazing. Well done OP. Glad you dodged the shotgun blast, it is an inspiration to all of us.

[–]Profdiddy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Rule number one is always be building something. Skills, Knowledge, or Wealth.

[–]vttu points points [recovered]

"well that's good to hear you can handle me being with other women, but just know that if you are with another man, I want you to tell me and I don't want to see you anymore. In fact, I hope you burn in hell." I disagree with this. Shows jealousy/insecurity. Promotes lying in the case that she does decide to be with somebody else. You'd be better off knowing they're sleeping around -- less chance of getting an STI.

[–]quickeddie points points [recovered]

No, combined with the fact that I was about to get married, it makes them think I'm a monogamist at heart who is blowing off some steam after having his heart broken. I'm certain this contributes to their high effort and agreeableness in trying to lock me down

[–]Gawernator 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Yeah if you're not in a committed relationship, saying it like that plus the "I hope you burn in hell (wtf?)" is really insecure/weird.

[–]quickeddie points points [recovered]

These are largely educated, professional women who don't even believe in hell. The way I say it with my sense of humor conveys a single message - you're gonna conform to my frame. And if she doesn't? I truly don't give a fuck. And why is it weird? Is it weird to onboard a client with a contract excluding my competitors? The client knows I have other clients too, these are simply the rules of engagement with ME

[–]Gawernator 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Basically it reads as "if you do this slight annoyance, I hope you burn in hell." It would be better if you just didn't say that. Plenty of educated people believe in a hell, FYI

[–]_vend7u 1 point2 points  (2 children)

How did you start your business and what is it? Please tell me I'm 16 and I really wanna get into the business economics world please could you give me some advice?

[–]quickeddie points points [recovered]

Not the place for it, but I wish you the best. There are a lot of resources out there and I can't do justice to my experience here. Good luck!

[–]ShadyDude995 1 point2 points  (4 children)

You said the following:

generally lost respect for most women's value as an LTR or wife.

Why have you lost respect for women's value as LTR's?

[–]quickeddie points points [recovered]

Fickleness, opportunism, disloyalty, etc. My previous relationship turned from sunshine to horror after the first few years, for one, and I'll devote a post to this at some point. For another, now that I've dated a lot of women at this stage of life, I find the level of baggage and/or outrageous world views these women carry is not worthy of motherhood. One girl told me with some pride how she used to go to the sex club and get fucked by multiple random men in the same night (indistinguishable from prostitution in my opinion, and the cheapest kind - FREE). Others have talked about encouraging friends to divorce or helping conceal infidelity. Few have any intrinsic selflessness, virtue, or form of satisfaction beyond living in the present. I can only imagine the shit they keep to themselves. I now assume that any woman who is unmarried in her late 20's or early 30's is damaged goods unless she proves otherwise (like maybe her LTR died in a car accident).

[–]ShadyDude995 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your immediate response!

[–]deeeeekay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right on Brother.

My 20's where amazing, and my 30's are even better after I simply gave up monogamy. I have had to drop plates, simply because at my peak game girls were so abundant.

Your 'haters' don't get it and it's hilarious. You can literally say and get away with almost anything if you're high enough SMV in their eyes.

[–]ThxBungie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just curious, what was the bad behavior that led you to calling it off?

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (1 child)

As I approach 30 years old, in great shape, with social savvy and a good job, I could not be happier to be a Red Pill aware man who dodged a shotgun blast and instead accepted the true nature of intersexual dynamics. Also, the bar for me entering a monogamous relationship is quite high now that I understand the reality of AWALT, and have generally lost respect for most women's value as an LTR or wife.

it's funny, I was thinking about this last night in bed and wondering why I don't have any women in my life. I realized it's because I don't have anything you have.

now I have to figure out how to climb the mountain.

[–]crowhorn52 -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

Fuck yes. This is such a great post. As a female married for 4 years, with the same nice guy for 10, this gives me hope. I would love to have the stones and transformation you do in this story.

Rock on.

[–]1htbf 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Leave your husband? I wish women had the balls to get out of boring relationships so that we can have a shit load of fun with them without the guilt and the anxiety that comes with cheating.

[–]crowhorn52 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Preach. I don't have the balls.. Yet.

Got close to a couple dudes who totes would've destroyed my pussy, but I chickened out when they made advances even though I loved every minute of it. The funnier thing was my hubby was down for me to get with said dudes if "it made me happy." Vom.

[–]1htbf -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You should have done it. If he's ok with it, you really should have went for it.

There is a girl I'm having an emotional affair with and I hate the fact that she has a boyfriend. It ruins our flirting with her guilt and anxiety. I'm two steps away from telling her to convince her BF to open the relationship so that we can have our intimacy in peace.

Why does it make you vomit ? Why are you with your husband anyway if he makes you vomit ?

And why are you a fucking chicken ?

Edit : you said you were morbidly obese. I don't believe that any two dudes could have totally wanted to destroy the pussy of a morbidly obese woman.

[–]Solistx points points [recovered]

Tell him to man up and shake it off... lol

[–]crowhorn52 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man up is not synonymous with him.. I may as well be a lesbian.

[–]turok281 -4 points-3 points  (14 children)

Haha love these stories. No one can resist lying a little bit. You tell them to go to hell if they see other men? Really? In your dreams maybe. Plus, 4 plates? Is that even possible? I struggle with 2. Srsly, keep it real. Don't be autistic. P. S I'm not saying your story is fake, just heavily inflated.

[–]quickeddie points points [recovered]

Yes, 4 plates is possible. I'm on tinder, bumble, a few sites, and I work in sales meeting people every day. The only issue really is time and logistics. But I was the most astounded to find you can actually live like this without being dishonest

[–]turok281 5 points6 points  (1 child)

But that's exactly why i struggle with it. Time and Logistics. Even messaging 4 plates is exhausting. You waste so much time. Who has got that much free time to handle 4 plates. Just curious here. Either i'm doing things wrong or some guys here at RP are way too advanced.

[–]1htbf 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Any tips? I'm 27, good job, good live game, my looks are in the top 10% in my area but 8 still struggle. I find it difficult to convert tinder matches to actual meetings. It feels exhausting to think of something to do with her as I'd rather just invite them home (but that usually feels hungry because they don't see any abundance I might have from a tinder profile).

My social circle is a bit too small (still kind of new in a small town and building back the network).

Any tips to greatly increase the number of girls I get to seduce outside of social media?

[–]turok281 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can't help with tinder as in my city it's not a thing. Personally i get results through social circles. Friends, especially female friends are awesome. When compared to just gaming strange girls, you have such a great advantage here. So in short, get out, do stuff. Expand your social circle. You need to meet more people.

[–]Hviterev 4 points5 points  (7 children)

Uh no? Totally works.. Im not claiming his story is true but the "I fuck plates but if you see a man it's over" thing can work pretty well.

[–]turok281 2 points3 points  (6 children)

You misunderstood me. I'm not saying it can't be done. It's the attitude that i think it's a bit weird. "Go to hell if you see other men." That's beta AF. Why would you even care. It's just a plate. p.s I don't understand the downvotes. Was it because i said it's difficult to handle many plates? Well, unless everybody here is like Hugh Hefner and Dan Bilzerian, in my opinion it's hard work.

[–]quickeddie points points [recovered]

No, it's alpha as fuck. Strange you mention Hugh Hefner - you ought to read up on the rules he maintained in the playboy mansion for decades. One of his girlfriends needed special permission for her BROTHER to stay over. Read a little history too. What constitutes the alpha is that other men cannot fuck his women. A feudal peasant can fuck peasant women but NOT noble women, the feudal lord can fuck peasant women OR noble women. Territoriality is indisputably alpha.

[–]turok281 2 points3 points  (3 children)

You over complicate it man. I just need their holes to get off. That's it. She's not mine, nor i want her to be.

[–]quickeddie points points [recovered]

I only take issue to your beta characterization. Your approach is fine, but mine certainly is not beta

[–]turok281 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Earlier i got the vibe from your post that you are overly invested in this one side exclusivity, but probably that's not the case. What i tried to say is don't get too invested in that and if she lies about it, it's not a big deal.

p.s. In what sector do you work?

[–]Hviterev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The go to hell imo is over the top. My approach always has been that she knows she does whatever the hell she want. Control is given, not taken. But she knows the day she fucks up she's out of my life for good.

[–]clme -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Hmm, something doesn't add up: how would you rate your facial attractiveness on a 1-10 scale? It doesn't quite make sense otherwise why a tall college athlete wouldn't be highly desirable in his student years...

[–]quickeddie points points [recovered]

I was dealing with a lot of head trash at the time with illness in my family, money being tight, and also having several long term girlfriends (which I allude to) that kept me from fucking around and brought me some security. After college I started a business which brought a whirlwind of anxiety.

[–]clme 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So what you described as girls not being very interested in you might have actually been a case of you not being very interested in them at the time? (or not good at noticing signs of interest from them)

[–]capnmykonos -1 points0 points  (0 children)

God you're so fucking cool

[–]sestre -5 points-4 points  (4 children)

Cool story. Why do you hate women though?

[–]quickeddie points points [recovered]

I don't hate women. In fact, I love some of them (my mother and sister) immensely. I said I was disgusted and angered by seeing women's true nature in respect to their romantic/sexual involvement with men. Duplicity, deceit, and manipulation are rampant, and it's taken years of pain to bring this into full view. I said in one of the comments here that I still regard ideal state monogamy as most preferable. I'm not confident I can find it in this culture though, and I'll expand more in posts to come, especially when I describe why I had to call off my wedding.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Are you guys all autistic? Half the time you can tell if a woman will be a good partner just by her appearance. Obviously girls who don't mind you fucking around are probably fucked up, otherwise they would find someone better