Blue Pill Example[Ultimate Beta] Don't be like me, I told my feelings to my crush and this is what happened (self.TheRedPill)

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Several months ago I went to see my crush friend and to go on a rock festival with her. When I came to her city, we went to her home to wait for her friend (girl). In the meantime, I was feeling that I couldn't hold it to myself anymore and I told her, can you sit by my side, I have to tell you something. She was like, "no, you can tell me from here, I feel comfortable sitting on this chair". I was like, "what the fuck, can you just come please", and she was "nah, nah, let's just be a little creative and do it over messaging app". In my desperation to confess my stupid feelings, I said, okay, let's do it. And I wrote her the message "Hey, I am in love with you" and she was like "I know", and started writing friends bullshit like "I don't want to lose you" and "Can you think of me as a lesbian so you trick yourself into being fine with us not being together"

The most intimidating thing that made me cringe was the last sentence that she wrote me "I don't see myself having sex with you".

It would all be alright if she wasn't the one who was saying that she hates sex and doesn't like that stuff, and I was kind of okay with that cause I am REALLY not a kind of person whose main goal in life is to have sex with a lot of women.

Also, she said "thank you, it's good of you to say what you feel, I really appreciate it".

So, later on, when her friend had arrived, we went to that stupid festival and we were roaming around. In my brokenness, I was just following them two and they were asking random strangers for weed and shit, some of them wanted sex in return for weed and that's the point they went to some place. Watching that from aside literally killed me. I was just standing there and watching them go away, she turned back to me and looked at me, I looked back at her in a sad way, got my hand up, waved, put my head down and turned my back and I fled away.

TL;DR: Had a crush on a girl who was explicitly saying that she hates sex, told her about my feelings, said to me that she doesn't see herself having sex with me. Asked strangers for weed in exchange for sex during music festival.

[–]yawalt points points [recovered]

And now you ghost the fuck out of her.

[–]psycrabbit 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Can't upvote this enough. You dont need a bitch like this in your life unless she's a casual plate and nothing more.

[–]karalejicSRB points points [recovered]

Yea, I sorta ghosted her. She managed to get her balls together and to me and wish me a happy birthday, and I was all like 'thanks' and shit, and she started telling me about her personal life how it's changed since she started going to uni and stuff, and the funniest thing, I went back to my full-retard-mindset and started talking to her like and she was responding to my messages to like 5-6 days after I sent them even though she seen those the minute after I sent them.

When I noticed that, I immediately blocked her on all social media accounts. I don't want that shit in my life anymore.

[–]Johnny_Monsanto 382 points383 points  (33 children)

You don't need to block her just don't answer her. It was your fault in the first place for answering her. Have some self respect.

[–]Stythe 60 points61 points  (8 children)

I'd say your wrong. He needs to block her. The guy is going to give in and message her, and she isn't offering anything for him. Him not fully removing her is going to give his subconscious hope. Hope that he'll bone her one day. He needs to go 180° in the opposite direction. Ghost her, start focusing on his actions and and not his feelings. His whole post is nothing but feelings. There's no lesson, not even a fake attempt at one or a repetition like most posts. It's literally TL, DR: I am sadd sniffle

His reaction should be "She did that? Fuck that I'm not touching that pussy with my dick" not "I am sadddd". She isn't going to want to accept him improving either, she isn't going to care. She's written him off for anything but time and attention.

Once he's removed his interest in her and improved his life and gotten substantial poon, he can bump into too her accidently and grab a drink and bone her if he wants. Now though, I guarantee ripping the bandaid off fast is better in his case.

OP, kudos for saying what you felt. You now see what this girl you adore thinks of you. That alone means you were willing to risk rejection. And you got rejected. Think about what caused the rejection and remedy it. If your aren't built, hit the gym and eat well. If you aren't financially stable, time to get a job prospect in sight, or get some training for one. If you're going to continue indulging you feelings, time to start a private journal where you release those feelings like written vomit, no more Feely talky talky. Also take up an instrument. Trust me, if you're fit and can play an instrument, you're getting laid. It's basically the law.

Good luck.

[–]mattstanton 13 points14 points  (7 children)

I defriended over 500 of my 650 friends on facebook because I just think cutting people off who are actually truly irrelevant to me is healthy. Now none of them can comment on my facebook posts that I'm racist for supporting the immigration ban. Or that I'm a sexist virgin (I'm neither) for saying that feminists care too much about rape especially when the rates are going down exponentially (for reasons that have nothing to do with feminism). If I wanted to argue with liberals I'd move to California.

[–]yes_we_can_t 3 points4 points  (4 children)

You have created an echo-chamber. Congratulations. Why try to ineffectively fight anyway? It's just throwing away your life for nothing.

If your intent is to make a difference, you need to try to change their minds with the appropriate level of rethoric (like I'm trying with you now), or shut up and do something productive.

[–]mattstanton 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Honestly cutting off friends doesn't do much but it feels better knowing that you ghosted all the people who don't give a fuck about you and will never see them again.

[–]JohnnyDildonics 4 points5 points  (0 children)

remember the Jezebel/feminist mantra "women don't owe you anything"? Extend that to all women, betas, chumps, shitlibs, and so on and so on until you've cut most of the cancerous people out of your life. They do nothing but drag you down. Their the ones with an echo chamber, only able to respond with "MUH RACISM" when having to debate that TEMPORARY, 90 DAY IMMIGRATION FREEZE (its not a fucking ban, so if they can't even admit that, you know they are sheep anyways and don't matter.) Brexit happened, Trump won, and Marie Le Pen will SWEEP France because the silent majority is tired of being kowtowed in the court of public opinion by loud mouthed virtue signalling cucks. They are loosing by thinking that feminism and social justice can shame people into caring still.

[–]IvankasBabyDaddy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I've considered doing the same thing for the same reasons. Respect for following through with it.

[–]mattstanton 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's such a nice feeling. Also not hanging out with friends unless they reach out to you is liberating too, but not the friends that are always looking to get drunk or high

[–]Arnoux 112 points113 points  (22 children)

Yeah blocking someone who is not responding is just weird/childish really. Just don't write/answer, simple as that.

[–]Draelic 250 points251 points  (16 children)

It's his first time going red pill and she kinda sounds like his oneitis, give him a break. He won't have to block them in the future but this is his start to cutting that cord and bettering himself.

[–]Enlightened_Chimp 40 points41 points  (11 children)

Ya I've had to do the blocking thing before. Who gives a fuck if it seems childish to the person you blocked anyways. The whole point is to do it for you and stop caring what they think. They aren't in your life anymore.

[–]askmrcia 14 points15 points  (9 children)

I'm with you. It's not childish at all. What on earth does he need that chick in his life for?

I too would block her. She said she can't have sex with me and says she wants to be friends. Yea friends while she ditches you to go smoke weed with strangers.

Blocking her is good on this situation because it's the best way for op to move on.

[–]Areu4realm8 7 points8 points  (2 children)

i love how understanding the basics of human interaction is called going redpill these days.

[–]james_the_dean 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's what you get when men get pussified.

[–]MisfitMind00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We were educated with the blue pill ways, our culture hides the true human nature from us.

[–]piccolo3nj 60 points61 points  (0 children)

Agreed with Draelic. The block is to distance himself from an addiction which he knows he can't control. This will be a building the start of his foundation.

[–]Churff 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Would you recommend leaving them on read or just not opening their message?

[–]conquerlifegroup 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The reason why I think blocking is ineffective is because at any point of weakness he can choose to unblock her and check out her profile.

And it shows weakness and how much he cares.

Seems like a lose-lose.

That being said I've blocked a two oneitus's in the past; so I understand that it's a process.

[–]NibblyPig 61 points62 points  (3 children)

That is pretty standard behaviour, she wants to convert you back into a beta orbiter whilst receiving validation that she's a normal person and hasn't engaged in any behaviours that may have damaged her character.

[–]MEANMUTHAFUKA 40 points41 points  (2 children)

Yeah - like sucking dick for weed. That's fucking disgusting. That would instantly cure me of oneitis. How can you respect someone that doesn't respect themselves?

[–]bears451 22 points23 points  (1 child)

You don't sorta ghost somebody. You fucking go radio silence on their ass. Like they don't fucking exist. She should never have the privilege to seeing you or talking to you again. Ever.

[–]itooktrp 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm 38...i got trp late... i recently ghosted someone for similar reasons; she wants my attention but had not showed up in person for 6months or more. i added her number to my contacts specifically so that i could block her calls/texts. With no way into my life she is no longer free to tell me random bullshit that will make me think about her and go back into oneitis for her... Keeping that number blocked is key to my sanity and moving on.

[–]Sdom1 46 points47 points  (13 children)

I told her, can you sit by my side, I have to tell you something. She was like, "no, you can tell me from here, I feel comfortable sitting on this chair".

She thinks you're a nice guy, but repulsive. Think about it, she couldn't even sit next to you as you expressed feelings for her. Oh, and this was also her trying as hard as she could to answer you without you having to ask the question. She just underestimated your desperation.

I am REALLY not a kind of person whose main goal in life is to have sex with a lot of women.

This is why she can't see herself having sex with you. I'm guessing you've been shamed into thinking having a sex drive makes you a bad person. You need to get in touch with that portion of yourself. Women don't want a monk.

some of them wanted sex in return for weed and that's the point they went to some place...I was just standing there and watching them go away, she turned back to me and looked at me, I looked back at her in a sad way, got my hand up, waved, put my head down and turned my back and I fled away.

OH COME ON. There's no way this is real, this is all too pathetic.

[–]bluedrygrass 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Sucking dick for weed, or sluttier things, aren't uncommon at all between millennials

Females and males

[–]GoodKingWenceslaus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's so sad that we've all been given a gospel of hedonism to the point that we don't recognize the great value that the human body has.

[–]CallMeHaseo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If and when he goes red pill he'll be on another level we all start somewhere

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Most likely a troll.

Although 18 year old girls trading sex for drugs is really common.

[–]2dogsandpizza 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Let's not sugar coat it, there are lots if girls younger than 18 trading sex for drugs.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hahaha true

RP for 16 year olds: Become a drug dealer

[–]Sdom1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

New TRP thread: "Guys, just have some drugs on you..."

[–]Jordnewton86 points points [recovered]

I was just thinkinf this "I fled away" not even the most pathetic beta would act like this.

Sounds like a trolling attempt. Either that or this guy is the biggest pussy on the planet.

[–]smokecheck1976 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I can believe it. This guy is young and naive and making mistakes. Probably grew up in a fairly stable household with a mom and a dad that met in high school themselves, bought into the whole "love conquers all" schtick that media likes to sell. I have seen dudes just this pathetic.

[–]kinpsychosis 14 points15 points  (6 children)

I hope you understand that she isn't in the wrong here, you just had faulty expectations.

Conflict is an opportunity for evolution, you will appreciate this in the years to come.

[–]sweetleef 30 points31 points  (5 children)

she isn't in the wrong here, you just had faulty expectations.

That depends on your definition of "in the wrong" -

Whoring herself for drugs might be considered a bit unbecoming, and deliberately doing it in front of a weak beta that just professed his love for her, her getting off on making him suffer, is certainly sadistic and cruel.

Just because he wrongly expected her not to be a meanspirited whore doesn't justify her being a meanspirited whore.

[–]kinpsychosis 5 points6 points  (4 children)

We are both just speculating here but I would have guessed despite her wanting to do it she may have felt guilty, which is my guess for why she looked back.

Regardless, this is life, her having sex for drugs is irrelevant to the topic at hand, OP had false expectations of the girl he loved and life which is what hurt him.

When I was younger I was very beta as well, I've come to learn that life is on you no matter the outcome, just learn from it and move on.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It wasn't love. Just infatuation. Op needs to learn to distinguish those emotions.

[–]eclectro 4 points5 points  (5 children)

I have a different view from some of the responses in this thread. Part of the problem is that when you are in the "crush zone" and you are far, far, too much "in your head." And I think some of the responses here may encourage that a bit too much.

You don't need to necessarily cut off all contact with your crush (send her a Christmas card maybe, be polite and say hello if you cross paths), but at the same time she can no longer be your crush because then you're back in the whimpery crush zone.

What do I mean by this exactly? When you are captivated by someone all logic of what it is to be a man just flies out the window and hence your crush does not see you as a man but as something else - maybe a "time ho."

So the number one rule imho is don't be a time ho.. "You can't friendship your way into pussy" that may actually be true (I have heard of friends finding love, but it could be an exception than the rule).

You need to stop thinking about her, go and develop yourself as a person and a man and use your time for that, which the redpill is about right?? But don't be someone's time ho.

[–]jeanadhoc 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Nope. Been in this situation before when I was in college. You do need to cut off contact. Act like she never existed. If you get into the mindset of "send her a card for birthday or christmas or whatever, or maybe i'll see her in a couple weeks walking around, we'll say hi", all you're going to do is get your mind spinning and it just doesn't work. You have to cut off everything because if you don't, it's never going to go away.

[–]eclectro 1 point2 points  (3 children)

And I knew there would be an exact response like yours lol. Looking back at my life now I see and understand things differently. I actually followed your advice (in my past) more than once and I do not think I was any better for it in the end.

I understand exactly what you are saying about the mind spinning like you're drugged, and how you can't think of anything else. And OP does need to move on (which can be really hard to do). But I think I would have been better off with the friendships even if they were just that. I try not to close the door on anything anymore. It could just be reckless sentimentality mixed in with wistfulness. I give you that.

But the lesson here for the OP and anyone else is that you need to guard your heart better and don't go giving the entirety of it wholesale to others that will "crush" it either intentionally or not.

[–]iFrozy_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can relate that gut pain , this girl I confessed to , used to tell me about a guy in her class who also had confessed to her but was being rude after she didn't reply. Now I thought If kept my saintly-Nice guy character that she'll see all the goodness in me but sadly females don't think like that.

Long story short , I felt this guy was completely asshole but guess what few months into it , she's in a relationship with him and I am like " What the fuck , you didn't like that guy and now you are getting intimate with him... Are you even thinking straight?" And then I found TRP and stopped all contact .

[–]mardonian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been there before too man. That shit hurts we know it. The truth is answers are out there for you, just don't be afraid to look for them. It's tempting to steer away from the pain and ignore it, but if you steer into it you can learn a lot about yourself. What makes her so special if she doesn't want to fuck you?

[–]PhucCheet points points [recovered]

can you sit by my side, I have to tell you something. She was like, "no, you can tell me from here, I feel comfortable sitting on this chair". I was like, "what the fuck, can you just come please", and she was "nah, nah, let's just be a little creative and do it over messaging app".

Yeah, she wasn't going to sit next to you because your crush was already obvious. She knew. She was trying to avoid dealing with a Stage 5 Clinger IRL, or you trying to kiss her.

And I wrote her the message "Hey, I am in love with you" and she was like "I know",

Ha, I hadn't even read this far when I wrote the above comment. No surprise though.

The most intimidating thing that made me cringe was the last sentence that she wrote me "I don't see myself having sex with you".

Why did only this make you cringe? She had been rejecting you for ages already.

It would all be alright if she wasn't the one who was saying that she hates sex and doesn't like that stuff

Wait, what? So there's some Shariah law that women you aren't dating and have no history with are only allowed to not crave you sexually if they are pure virgins who have sex with no one? Women aren't allowed to be attracted to other guys but not you? All sexually active women MUST crave you?

This is some fucked up self-esteem shit right here.

Had a crush on a girl who was explicitly saying that she hates sex

No, she never said that once in your story. She said she didn't want sex with YOU. The only logical conclusion is she must want sex with no one else?

I'm surprised you didn't go Honor-Kill her ass.

[–]murt98 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel you man, sometimes there's these people that bring all the beta back, I think you should overcome this personal demon

[–]lizerpetty 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Please tell me you shook your head when she looked back at you and gave her a look of disgust. This girl is toxic, you should figure out why you are attracted to toxic women.

[–]Macheako 15 points16 points  (46 children)

Ghosting is child's play man. You wanna really blow her fucking mind, invite her ass to dinner, say you wanna apologize or some shit for bein a cuck the other day. Make it somewhere fancy too and tell her not to bring any money cause it's your treat, you wanna show her that being friends really is important to you or some dumb chick shit.

Have her meet you there but don't actually go yourself. Then when she messages you, tell your stuck in traffic and literally 5 minutes down the block. Ask her to go ahead and order drinks, and name off a few, expensive appetizers too to start so they'll be delivered right around the time you get there.

Then proceed to get baked n play video games and when she's messages you again like "omg where tha hell r u?!?!" Just kindly tell her she can go fuck herself for being a piece of human trash and never to talk to your ass again.

Bye Felicia ;)

[–]logicalthinker1 13 points14 points  (3 children)

certified teen answer right there.

[–]MilleniumForce 24 points25 points  (20 children)

God damn, he can learn from his experience without fucking with people. That's some toxic shit

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (12 children)

I mean, the girl fucked some stranger for weed right in front of the guy after he expressed his feelings, she deserves no sympathy

[–]MilleniumForce 22 points23 points  (11 children)

She does not deserve sympathy. She also does not deserve another minute of the his time, planning and executing revenge. Learn, move on. She will get what she deserves in time, she'll make sure of it.

[–]Fus_Roh_Potato 5 points6 points  (4 children)

If she doesn't deserve sympathy then stop giving it to her.

[–]Macheako 2 points3 points  (5 children)

You ever stop and think....juuuuust maybe, by getting a "win" over this bitch....it might actually HELP his self-esteem and show him that he actually IS better than these basic fuckin bitches?

And homie, dafuq is this?

She also does not deserve another minute of the his time, planning and executing revenge.

I literally just laid out the whole fucking plan for him...pro bono...and I don't even know the mother fucker lol. No offense man, but your replies sound a little too "book worm" for my own tastes. Gotta give yourself some freedom to open up and imagine/think man.

Absolutely he shouldn't waste time on her. You totally on point with that, but here's what I mean by you're being "book worm" with it, is that you gotta take this idea, and integrate in ya, not just "verbatim". I mean that it's easy to not bother thinking and just go "Any time spent on woman is time wasted on woman", like, again, no offense, but that idea requires zero fucking effort.

It's far more valuable/useful instead to look at exactly what IS and what ISNT a waste of time concerning this broad. If she hit his ass up tonight to fuck, you think that'd be wastin? Or how about if she called to apologize? We STILL human fucking beings man, don't take that part outta the equation.

So the ONLY reason I even suggested what I did was cause

  1. I was just messing around mostly
  2. Ghosting is weaksauce
  3. True Discipline comes from self-control, not running away

I personally think people grow more by facing their problems head the fuck on instead of running away. Now he doesn't HAVE to do exactly what I suggested, but str8 up ghosting is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fucking pussy, and no, it's not negotiable lol.

You wanna be a Man? Then face your mother fucking problems LIKE a goddamn Man!!! Yes, sometimes that requires you walk away. But in most cases of life, walking away should come AFTER you've stood up directly to the problem. Tell the bitch off, call her cunt, say to her mother fuckin face how much of a piece a shit she is and until she gets her act together, you don't even wanna hear her name uttered, take ya fuckin pick. But goddamn, do something man, don't just run off like a fucking bitch.

Hell, even just texting her and saying "Look, straight up you've been an awful friend, and until you learn how to be a decent person to others, please don't call me" and THEN ghosting would still be infinitely a bajillion magillion times fuckin better. When you just str8 up ghost like that, it makes it look like YOU are too fearful, afraid, scared, worried to Tell it like it is. And that's why I suggested he get the balls to be square with this bitch, rather than some kinda curvy lookin queer ass response from ya'll "book worms" :P Just playin bud. But really, don't be such a nerd all the time lol Live a little!

[–]MilleniumForce 1 point2 points  (4 children)

You basically made me read another book with that post! Lol but you actually make a good point, and my online persona is often a bit subdued. I agree that facing your problems is better than ghosting much of the time, and I was painting the 'waste of time' brush too wide. But it is definitely a bit childish for him to go playing pranks on people he doesn't like, and from what he said, I doubt she would show up lol. By all means, if he sees her in person tell her to fuck off.

[–]Sensei_Hensei 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Lol I only thumbs up because I thought it was funny...never do this in real life people...too much effort

[–]logicalthinker1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Seriously. pettiness requires you to care and obsess. I don't have fucking time for that bullshit. Leave the pettiness to teenage girls.

[–]abc69 3 points4 points  (13 children)

That's some butthurt betta faggotry right there

[–]88Will88 points points [recovered]

STFU, dude put it up there as a blue pill example, he is already hurting, he does not need apprentices kicking him in the guts when he just spilled them. If you want to go aggro on brothers head over to blue pill or relationships, we are here to help each other, not rub salt in the wounds. Grow the funk up bitch

[–]darkmoon09 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That's some passive aggressive bitch made shit. Him putting that elaborate plan together shows just how much she actually got to him. Gotta have better frame than that. He just needs to ghost her and leave it at that.

[–]Terra_the_terrible 3 points4 points  (5 children)

New here, what does ghost mean?

[–]MEANMUTHAFUKA 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Going completely no contact - read the sidebar

[–]depressed-salmon 174 points175 points  (11 children)

It's always gunna be cringy telling your crush you love them if it's a desperate need to. But tbh, someone who has sex for drugs, maaaaaybe isn't the best person to have a relationship with.

Also, real shitty of her to do that infront of you. She's just not a particularly considerate person/friend. Up until I'd have thought it'd still be worth being friends.

[–]StarRange 56 points57 points  (3 children)

Sex for weed especially.

At that point you just gotta admit something to yourself.

[–]IllPanYourMeltIn points points [recovered]

Yeah I mean if I can understand someone sucking dick for heroin but fucking someone for weed means it's clearly about more than the drugs.

[–]Cesare_MA 11 points12 points  (0 children)

And she probably got like 2 grams tops. That's $20, cheaper than an escort.

[–]plenty_of_eesh 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah I thought the convo post-OP's-revelation went not badly. Seemed kinda like what you'd hope your crush would say if they were uninterested.

But... the follow-up at the fest. Urrrrgh.

[–]mattstanton 3 points4 points  (2 children)

The more I read these stories the more I believe AWALT. I had a lengthy conversation with my friend yesterday, though, and he was adamantly opposed to the ideas on this subreddit. He said that women can selflessly love men, sex is better with someone you have an emotional connection with, people can be happier overcoming their primal urges, not all women feel that their purpose is rearing children, and women can have the same types of ambitions as men (scientific, political, financial, whatever). He doesn't believe that women have a secret urge to be at the center of an all-alpha male orgy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not considerate? No, she did it deliberately to torment him. She enjoyed his pain and her power to cause it.

[–][deleted] 129 points130 points  (4 children)

I hope that it was honestly very painful for you. That kind of pain is the absolute best ingredient for the path of becoming a way better version of yourself. Embrace it and forge a real man out of you. Good luck bro.

[–]aanarchist 42 points43 points  (1 child)

i don't wish such a pain on anyone, but at the same time we've all been that guy and that pain made us stronger.

[–]Duchenne4089 25 points26 points  (0 children)

The pain makes sure you don't forget.

[–]VicariousHp 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It was sure as hell painful for me to read it. It's like the second or third post of this kind in a row.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I couldn't even finish reading the story of the beta guy having a MMF threesome with his girlfriend who could never cum, then proceeded to cum in 2 minutes getting fucked by the second guy. It literally made me sick to my stomach to the point of having to stop reading it.

[–]BreathOfDick 169 points170 points  (9 children)

Welcome to the red pill my friend. You are shaming yourself way too much over this dude. That's not "Ultimate beta", that's "dude that got the full friend zone experience." It's only one woman and believe me there are MANY MANY others that do not want to have sex with you. It's fine! Don't be so hard on yourself over it. Happens to all of us. Now soak up the sidebar and be the best version of yourself!

[–]nexus974 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Agreed. This is not ultimate beta. It will however be ultimate beta if you don't cut her out of your life completely.

[–]theONE843663 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Yo I always wondered why lot of men think that exclaiming love like that without even having a Netflix n' chill session is somehow a good idea. That's "totes creepy AF" from girls' perspective.

And lmao dat username tho... 😂😂😂

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

The golden rule is don't tell a girl you love her until she says it first.

[–]yomo86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see it the same way. The man did everything 'ok' as far as he tells it, there was not big emotional outburst - dude just told the bitch, who turns out to have the equivalent of a quarter ounce of weed, how he feels. This is not beta - it's the 101 in 'love things' according to the news, media, and movies - even couple's therapy.

[–]jd2fresh 82 points83 points  (13 children)

So this chick really fucked for weed? I could understand coke or maybe some pills but weed? You dodged a bullet man, that's some strange shit.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 21 points22 points  (5 children)

Chicks will indeed fuck for coke (it's the story behind my username), but I wouldn't see a chick directly trade weed for sex, just "come over to smoke and chill". This one's a ho

[–]Novembercriminal 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Did you tell the story somewhere?

[–]juliusstreicher 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I think she wanted to fuck the guy irrespective of the weed. The weed was an add on, or an excuse to get away from op.

[–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Potentially, but remember that possessions can be SMV-boosters, especially situationally. Why do you think women fuck with rich guys even if they won't be betabux? They just want use of their stuff, and the bottle service, and the attention of being seen in a Ferrari or something.

Yeah, sure, weed isn't a Ferrari, but if guy has weed in a closed market and she wants weed, the sexual marketplace and other economics collide. He has drugs, she has pussy, they make the transaction.

[–]sweetleef 29 points30 points  (3 children)

really fucked for weed? I could understand coke or maybe some pills

Yeah that would make it better, LOL.

[–]psychyness 37 points38 points  (1 child)

Only in the sense that coke and pills can be harder to get, and people can be more desperate to get them. Plus they're more expensive.

One screams drug addict, the other screams whore. They're both bad, pick your poison.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nope. Pick no poison and GTFO. That bitch is the past now.

[–]jd2fresh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying it would make it better, but it's definitely more common.

[–]hamsterbator 12 points13 points  (1 child)

the weed was just an excuse. this was a guy who was hot or knew how to spit game and used the weed as a hook.

he probably offered weed for sex half jokingly but did it in a dominant fashion that got her tingles going.

[–]jd2fresh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Indeed, you bring up a good point. The weed was the catalyst that got her tingles going just like you said. Now come to think of it, I have had situations like that happen before. But for OP's sake if I was ever hanging out with some chicks and they went to go fuck some guys for some weed, I would be outta there so quick, removing that chicks contacts, and hitting up tinder to find some other strange.

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 34 points35 points  (4 children)

Your "brokenness" gives her special tingles.

Fuck that bitch.

[–]Cesare_MA 6 points7 points  (3 children)

There is a sort of satisfaction women get crushing a low value guy's soul. I've seen it and experienced it. Hurts like a bitch and really makes you wonder.

[–]Torncano 26 points27 points  (0 children)

It's only a mistake if you don't learn from it

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (3 children)

You know why confessing your feelings is always a weak move? Because you put the ball in her court and give her all the power in the prospective relationship. She is in control. By extension, she is also in control of how you feel.

You know what women hate and is a major turn-off for them? Making big decisions--and having full power over a potential romantic partner. Know what else they hate? You not having your feelings within your own control.

Even if you're a bona fide alpha it's still a bad move. (There is one possible exception to this rule, but it's never found in situations like OP's post).

[–]THE_CARDINAL 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I cannot agree more. If I could go back and teach my younger self one lesson, it would be "Don't put girls in a position where they have to make a serious/big decision."

OP, think about it, if some ogre of a woman that you were friendly with cornered you somewhere and confessed her love for you, how would you feel right then, and how would you feel about seeing them after that? It would be terribly uncomfortable.

Keep your emotions in check, hold your frame, and use subtle hints to show interest and let them reciprocate. Its a game you have to learn, and this girl is literally a prostitute OP move on and you'll be better off.

[–]skipennsylvania 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have been cornered by actual woman-ogre before, can confirm.

[–]Five_Decades 22 points23 points  (1 child)

I know it is of no consolation, but you dodged a bullet. This girl has a lot of red flags.

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (10 children)

God damn, bro. That shit hurt me and I wasn't even there. We all have to be beta at some point to be able to overcome it.

[–]smokecheck1976 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Okay, you communicated that you had feelings for her, you know what, good for you. I mean us humans do use various forms of language, verbal, physical, and otherwise to communicate our wants, needs, ideas, and desires.

On the other hand, here are some things you did wrong. First, you should have just went in for a kiss, rather than trying to beg her to come to you. She knew how you felt. If she dodged, well, then you have a reason to walk away free and clear.

Second, you didn't know this chick as well as you think. Quality women, ones worth more than a quick pump and dump, aren't running off with strangers to score some weed.

Third, after laying your heart out, and being rejected you went to the festival anyway. If you decided it was worth your time, you should have just dumped them once you were through the gate, not your responsibility after all.

What to do now? Ghost. Don't call her. Don't respond to her. Spend some time lifting weights.

[–]1Sir_Distic 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Many of us have been there. Confessed "love" to a crush only to be shot down with the friendzone. You were in lust not love.

But that's ok. Simply hold your head up high and decide "I'm better than this. I deserve better than this." Time to walk away. If she messages you, and don't message her ever again, then simply say: "This isn't the type of friendship or relationship I want. You take care." I guarantee you'll never hear from her again. Showing you how little you mean to her.

She fucked/blew guys for weed right after you told her you loved her. She even looked back to see if you were watching. (She may have told herself it was to see if you were ok.)

This part will sting a bit. She doesn't fucking care about you. AT. ALL. Not as a friend, not as a romantic interest. Nothing. She never will. All she cares about is having fun in that moment and herself.

Always be willing to walk. Always.

Back in the day I would have done the exact same thing. Now I would have told her much sooner I wanted to fuck her. If she said no I simply would have said "Ok. Take care." and left. Even if I had to walk home.

Be the prize. Not the sap. Always be willing to walk. Self-respect is something no one can take from you. It's something you give away.

[–]IronManAlan 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This story made me cringe a little, because it reminded me of myself. Ghost her and never look back. Best thing you can do right now, is read the side bar, lift and work on increasing your SMV.

[–]animationphilosopher 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Sorry dude. Hope you learned from your mistakes here. Feel deeply into your pain, it's what will ensure you don't do this again. Use the pain to motivate positive change

[–]AnjaJutta 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Have that memory in your head when you are lifting iron.

[–]TheCello 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I Cringed. Horror story Bro. Celebrate this day because today You woke up

[–]igor_pavlov 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Its hardly conceivable that a well adjusted human being would take cock in their holes at a rock festival so they could smoke weed. Like that other guy said, you dodged a bullet. That kind of behavior is indicative of a deeper problem.

[–]WillyWonka321 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I am terribly sorry but I am laughing. Not at you and the situation you found yourself in but just at the fact that you "FLED".You could have just walked away.Fled is a word used to describe the action of sprinting. Please no offence intended.Anyway lessons learnt from your story and my own experiences.

  1. Never tell a girl you want to sleep with that you love her. Formalizing the whole thing is just the kiss of death.Women believe in the natural progression of a relationship not the bureaucratic signing of documentation bargaining your way in.

  2. Your mistake wasn't the confession.In some cases girls would actually want guys to tell them they love them. Your hidden mistake was your behavior. How can we tell.When you said "I love you she said "I know" meaning your mannerisms around her said more than you can imagine. Unfortunately your body language was that of an AFC.

Anyway NEXT her.NEVER SEE HER AGAIN.learn from your mistake and move on.I dont think you will ever recover from when she looked at you walking toward the sex. It would be better time spent developing yourself rather than orbiting around her a defeated cuck.

[–]RedditAdminsSuck_88 38 points39 points  (12 children)

You dug your hole long before expressing your feelings. Expressing your feelings just gave her the green light to verbally friend zone you.

Asked strangers for weed in exchange for sex during music festival.

You dodged a bullet. Huge red flags that your blue pill mindset couldn't see. And its not the weed for sex part. It's weed in general. Any woman who smokes weed shall never achieve a rank higher than plate.

[–]Ganaria_Gente 5 points6 points  (11 children)

Wut? Ain't nothing evil with weed, brah

[–]SMGPthrowaway 16 points17 points  (3 children)

A chick smoking weed like crazy at a music festival and fucking for weed at a music festival is not worthy of anything over plate material.

Women trade sex for provisions/attention from men. This girl values her body so low that she's willing to trade her vagina for ~$50. Sure maybe she got more weed valued at $150 or whatever but most likely she got less than $100. Doesn't matter, she whored herself out for the equivalent of a shift at her job, if she has one. If she's willing to do that, she's willing to do many other things and will likely end up being a terrible girlfriend.

You can still fuck her but you don't want to upgrade a girl like that to girlfriend status, because she's not good gf material. Therefore, she's only worthy of being a plate.

[–]Ganaria_Gente 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I was talking weed in general

A girl who trades sex for weed is literally a prostitute. Obviously someone to avoid, or plate if she's hot

[–]SMGPthrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair enough, I see your point. I did tangentialize a bit and turned your comment into something it wasn't.

Weed itself is not a bad thing. I wouldn't GF a girl who does it often, though. I don't do weed because my job and career are heavily against substance abuse and even if weed gets legalized in my state my employers will likely continue to screen me.

Personally, having a gf super into weed would put a massive discrepancy between us, so girls heavy into weed are plate status for me.

[–]RedditAdminsSuck_88 10 points11 points  (6 children)

A woman who smokes weed is not LTR material. Sorry but that's reality.

[–]progggrammerr99 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Degenerate chicks tend to gravitate to crowds that smoke weed but I've smoked out some girls that have never done it before, and it's not like it automatically makes them degenerate. Maybe if she started smoking on her own regularly but there's nothing better than sparking up a joint with a girl who you know is eager to fuck you. As I'm in high school, some girls that crush on me try it just cause they wanna be around me/want my approval

[–]SunTzuArtofWar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fucking for weed? Who the hell does that, weed is not that expensive.

[–]Mr-Ed209 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fuck the 'friend-zone' is such a head fuck. Even if the girl started out interested in you, acting as a friend just throws you down a path of confusion and misery at the end of it.

Never develop female friendships they're never worth it. The dynamic should always be Man > Woman, if she's to be attracted she always has to look at you as superior. The minute it steps to being friends and you become 'equal' the attraction dies. Be a leader in all your interactions with women, if they're not receptive of your leadership they ain't attracted to you.

That's the horrible thing, womens interest can flip on a dime depending on where she views you. If you turned up to that festival as a cocky shit with a bag of coke and pingers to share with her, chances are it would have been you getting a 3 way at the end of it. Never be the nice guy, it's just not what women want.

[–]Lsegundo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

HAHAHA WTF? OP I am laughing with you (future you at least) not at you.


  • Friendship ≠ attraction
  • Treating women "right" is often the most difficult, if not impossible, way to get in their pants.
  • There really is no reason to be friends first with women you want to fuck. They will fuck the men they are attracted to very quickly in many cases.
  • Women usually know that you like them, but are happy to drain your soul and absorb your validation while you orbit.

Head up OP you probably just dodged getting the HIV from a no good dirty sloot. AWALT but you can still do better than a ho that is sucking guys off for $40 of weed.

[–]asotranq 3 points4 points  (0 children)

so she presumably exchanged sex for weed? get away from this person, you really don't want morons like this around you

[–]GoodQuestion131 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Not to poke OP with a stick, I want to share what I got from her words because I saw a few users do this and I really like the concept.

"no, you can tell me from here, I feel comfortable sitting on this chair"

Translation: I like this chair more than you. (This chair means more to me than your respect for me).

"Can you think of me as a lesbian so you trick yourself into being fine with us not being together"

Translation: I think you're so sad that the only way you'll be fine being with me is by imagining me as a lesbian. Also you're so sad that you'd actually hang out with lesbians.

"thank you, it's good of you to say what you feel, I really appreciate it"."

Translation: Thanks for boosting my ego.

[–]karalejicSRB points points [recovered]

Yea, I knew what was going on from that moment, and that's the point I started moving on.

[–]THE_CARDINAL 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good, and keep moving forward! You are muuuuuch better than this girl OP, and she is obviously nothing but useless trouble. Learn from this lesson and learn how to keep your feelings under control.

Read the comment from /u/DippedInFireAnts

[–]LidlKwark 7 points8 points  (0 children)

it has been said multiple times:

  1. 100% Ghost
  2. Lift
  3. Focus on passion and carreer
  4. Never initiate contact
  5. Girls will come

Your story fucking hurts man. Do NOT, I repeat do NOT become her orbiter.

[–]thechariot83 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've been in positions similar to this back in my teens. One tenet you need to stay true to is having the balls to bounce at a moments notice. Those things that were rubbing you the wrong way...at each one of those moments you could have nexted the fuck out.

You confessed your love for her and she said, "I know. I can't see myself having sex with you." That right there should have been your sign. Don't put yourself in that position where you're letting them lead you here and there and you are only there half-heartedly anyways. Get out of there. Your time is precious. Don't spend it in that shitty stupor. My problem back in the day was I just didn't have the balls. I cared too much about people's thoughts of me. Fuck that noise man. Care, but to an extent. Don't let it dictate your future.

Be good, man.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Several months ago I went to see my crush friend and to go on a rock festival with her.

I stopped reading after this. Too much cringe already.

[–]jakeecio 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It was a good thing to happen. You have dodged the bullet. Why with your right mind would you have sex with a woman who would sleep with strangers just for a weed ? Clear away from her...she is not worth your time and effort...

[–]br_21 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also, she said "thank you, it's good of you to say what you feel, I really appreciate it".

Fake empathy. Seems that sentence or some variation always gets said right before attempting to move on from the conversation, or is closely followed by conversation/action that indicates it barely registered. Here it's only 'appreciated' in that the unsaid has been spoken and now any guilt from getting benefits from your attraction has been lifted. You confessed, she acknowledged and declined, so anything you do thereafter is for the 'friendship'.

[–]scarletspider3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You live and you learn man. Don't beat yourself up over this, just do better the next time.

[–]DotishGuy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Swallowing the pill is hard, but you did it. Congrats man.

Get angry. Now use that rage to get the ball rolling towards being alpha. Then once the rage subsides, keep the ball rolling.

[–]Manwith1name 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro that's brutal, consider it your baptism into reality. You have just run into the difference between women's wants and women's desires. Want is a higher brain function, women want a nice guy to be kind and loyal to them, they just want it later, always later. Women desire a strong confident man who makes them feel weak I'm the knees. Desire beats want every single time. Don't expect to be wanted, mould yourself into something that is desired.

[–]Arnoux 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"I don't see myself having sex with you"

When you mention love, she immediately thinks and talks about sex. That is some next level sluttiness. Also fucking on a concert? Why do you love such a whore?

There are some more normal girls out there.

[–]Karacmore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It happens, but you're here now right? Read ths sidebar and fallow up bro.

[–]CarmeloManning 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The first step is realization. Now, find your path to becoming a better, more actualized MAN and do whatever it takes to get there

[–]prodigy2throw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everyone starts somewhere. The important thing is you know what you gotta do. Up to you if you choose actually to do it or if you decide to just sit around this sub circle jerking about how women are fucked up. Sadly, lots of people here fuck up and choose the latter. Don't be them.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like a cunt. Just learn from this experience and as long as you take something away from it, then you're good.

[–]HWLCyth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"I don't see myself having sex with you". <<< "Being blindfolded has that effect on people."

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

deleted What is this?

[–]TominatorXX 1 point2 points  (2 children)

So did she have sex with a stranger for weed?

[–]karalejicSRB points points [recovered]

I left the place after they started going somewhere, neither can I confirm or deny that.

[–]1theoctopuss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your red pill awakening has begun. What you should have done is ditch that slut and find some other girl at the festival to suck you off behind the port-a-potties. When they inevitably try and find you after everything is said and done, act like you don't know who they are.

[–]throwlaja 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My experience is similar.

I told my crush that I liked her. I knew she didn't liked me back and has a boyfriend. She told me the same "cant you see me as a men" talk. So I basically stop giving her attention.

Two weeks later of no attention she went crazy, SHE blocked me in all social networks except whatsapp (so we can still talk). I managed to ask her for a coffe date.

In this coffe date I kinoed her a lot, even kissed her hair, cheeks, several times. She loved it, apparently. But she is still with his boyfriend.

It's very hard to cut a relationship with your crush, from both sides.

[–]a_nus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You sound like me three years ago. I am a completely different person now, in a better way. Welcome and enjoy the journey.

[–]sm0kemonster815 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry man. I feel you.

Try reading Way of the Superior Man / other books & topics on Masculine Polarization

[–]NMF_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea I went through a bad phase a couple years ago where I did something similar. It was probably a good thing though because it really helped me get my head out of my ass and red pill

[–]maxresdefault10 points points [recovered]

M8 she is a LITERAL prostitute. You dodged a bullet. Don't be sad, be glad you found out shes a ho before you wasted anymore energy trying to LTR her

[–]Actanonverba11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Girls love sex. Just not with Betas. Sex is for the Chads. Duty sex is for when they decide to settle down with a BB. You dodged a bullet. Next her. Immediately.

[–]maniclurker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lesson learned. Move on. You ghost her, and leave it at that.

Now work on making yourself into a better man.

[–]meh613 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I got 5 letters for you -- A.W.A.L.T. -- internalise it and, not only will you learn that this is natural, you'll be more comfortable with it.

[–]GoodKingWenceslaus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry man! Unreciprocated love is one thing, but when you can see the purity of the girl you're into being completely destroyed must be the worst! It's one thing that they'd not be into you, but that they'd just live a completely degenerate life is awful.

[–]traveldeedee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nothing good will wind up with a rock'n roll pothead girl. Trust me, these people fuck themselves up. If you're indulged in that kinda culture, I strongly suggest you to get it together. You just can't find quality girls in that social setting unless you're merely looking for a piece meat. And even for a piece of meat, sorry to tell you, the present you can't attract them.

[–]enkae7317 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn bro. This aint even me and I still felt it.

Beta to the max. Betamax. But the good thing here is you recognized the problem. Also never confess to the girl you like..that's like one of the most basic rules of the game.

[–]suicidal_warboy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bro envisioning my crush doing what she did to you to me.... omg I would die inside. Watching her walk away from you to literally go sell her body for weed... something you were unworthy for but these guys get to pay for easy as grabbing a pack of smokes from a gas station.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On the bright side, that moment when she went off to fuck a stranger for weed after rejecting you should have been enough to red pill you for life.

[–]BluntMFer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How cringe. Sorry mate, go monk mode and get ready to bang a bunch of girls.

[–]Merwebb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gotta apreciate her cold ass straight truthfulness and be smart enough as to learn from it. Take the hit in full and let your body learn from the shock

[–]Breidurhundur 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You didn't just dodge a bullet, you dodged an ICBM. You paid the price of being humiliated for one day but at least now you're not in a relationship with a skank that sells her body to strangers for an hour of high.

[–]tolerantman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man, if you are going to have a crush on a prostitute, at least pick an expensive one.

[–]atradervish 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wow what did that guy looked like, for her to just fuck a guy for some weed is crazy lmaooo he must have looked good atleast, methinks

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be honest, I don't think she did anything wrong, minus the fucking people for weed (but let's be real, she prob would have had sex with that person even if they didn't have weed and getting free weed was just a bonus)

You were a friend to her. Never be friends with people you're attracted to. You can be an acquaintance but IMO men and women are never capable of being 'true' friends. One party usually wants something more. From the get go you have to outline your intentions. Mentioning you're attracted to them after a friendship just comes across as creepy. Otherwise, your just being a sneaky beaver.

I don't mean to come across harshly but I think it's just something that needed to be said. You seem to have learnt a lot anyway and that's all that matters. As others have said, there's no point going back to friends with this girl. Let's be honest, you don't want to be her friend and she doesn't want to be your lover, so keeping things at an acquaintance level(or even no contact) is best for all concerned.

[–]Mohow 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What would have been a better way to handle this?

[–]TheCello 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Leave when she friendzoned him ( or already when she wont Leave a fkin chair)

[–]RedBikerMouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You think that last sentence she wrote was bad, I had a "I hope you get over it soon".

[–]Steve_Wiener 0 points1 point  (0 children)

doing drugs regularly and/or go to music festivals is a huge red flag

[–]kaoussi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you have to know the difference between " I am in love with you" and " Hey, I like you".

[–]iplayhearts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey Man,

So I like TRP and use it everyday. It's my foundation and I have been going hard for 3 years now. When tricky situations come up it's always helpful. When you are feeling emo about a girl, check out Coach Corey Wayne's videos. They're RP material in a way that's super accessible. Sometimes you end up catching feels for a girl. TRP puts you back in the seat of power (IDGAF, Abundance, self-focused mentality)

[–]PissedPajamas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lift OP. Doesn't matter what scene you're in, what's your style or who you hang with, always lift. I'm a singer/guitarist in an emo shoe gaze band and I stand out cause all you see is lanky dorks out there. Women will always like you when you're fit even if it's not common in the scene

Also, forget her. She sounds like an ex I had, they'll come back when you're ripped and getting attention and you'll be passed it anyways

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm really beginning to realize what a beta I've been for the past years, after reading this RedPill stuff more and more.

Stay strong OP, this kind of experience makes you strong in ways you'll never imagine.

[–]Returnofthemack3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol wtf, these girls willingly had sex for just weed at the fest? damn dude, like, I get what you're feeling, it sucks, but these are LOW value women lol. If you want to be able to fuck this type of girl, I have good news for you : It's really easy. Just follow the basic shit here and you're good to go.

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