Blue Pill ExampleNoFapper Picks Up Hottest Chick, Cock-Blocks Himself, then Celebrates (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by CamTalbot

NoFap has a lot of benefits, but it doesn't fix the beta mentality.

On a different subreddit, a NoFapper who picks up the hottest chick at a bar shares his story. He has an amazing time with her and the sexual tension escalates. Two hours in, the chick wants this guy's dick, so he asks her to go to his place for a drink.

Once at his place, it's gets pretty heated. The girl is on top of him, kissing him and acting like a complete slut. However, the NoFapper notices that she began to slow down so he asked her if something is bothering her.

She told me she'd been on the bad side of hook ups recently and only wanted to go further if this was going to be the real deal. Right then and there, It would have been so easy for me to lie, say I wanted the real thing too, and proceed to get her naked.

Here, his 'White Knight' beta mentality kicks in.

But because of NoFap I saw her in a new light. She wasn't just an object to be lusted over. She was a real girl who had experienced real pain. She was trusting me to make a decision and I could not let myself hurt her. So I told her the truth. I told her I just got out of a 6 year relationship a few months ago and was not ready for anything but a hook up. I told her I could have manipulated her to get in her pants but she, being an amazing girl, deserved better. And I told her she should go home before I hurt her more.

This NoFapper had a hot chick ready to fuck him, but decided to be the 'good guy' because he 'felt bad' for her. He later on goes on and says:

I could not be prouder of myself. I'm a new man. A rare breed.

A new man? Sure. Maybe you got rid of your degenerate porn addiction, but you're still a beta cuck. She was at the bar because she specifically wanted to fuck. She will be riding Chad's dick the next night and have no memory of you.

Tl;dr: NoFapper has a chance to fuck a hot babe but his beta white-knight mentality kicks in and he cock blocks himself. He later on justifies that what he did makes him a better man.

[–][deleted] 384 points385 points  (41 children)

Lol she likes to fuck, must be something wrong with her. I can fix that!


[–][deleted] 140 points141 points  (18 children)

.#saveher #shedefinitelywantstobesaved

[–]momomotorboat 40 points41 points  (8 children)

Upvoted for putting that period before the hashtag.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (5 children)

If I didn't it would look like this

saveher #shedefinitelywantstobesaved

[–]bcassalino 16 points17 points  (3 children)

You could have pressed space before the hashtag and it would look even better

#saveher #shedefinitelywantstobesaved

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (2 children)

#saveher #shedefinitelywantstobesaved

fuck u right

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

escape the # with a

#check this out

[–]landon042 17 points18 points  (4 children)

I like this, I wonder how many times this will be relevant in trp



"She was a real girl who had experienced real pain"

Da pain of Dis DICKK

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (3 children)

The Original that he's referencing, even more red pill

[–]waking-life 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Nah, this one from 1996 is the original.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah definitely the first song with the same theme but I meant the literal exact words in the J cole song come from the Project Pat song, not Captain Save a Ho

[–]alexclarkbarry 3 points4 points  (0 children)


[–]CQC3 13 points14 points  (7 children)

What a concise summary, shit.

Maybe if he continues to not fap even more eventually his dick will learn to relay to his brain the right response to that scenario.

Primal instincts my ass.

His "degenerate porn brain" would've told him to fuck her on the spot to reenact some of those scenes.

[–]radiationdude 10 points11 points  (6 children)

There's some truth to this stuff. Go a few days without jerking off. You'll find yourself making more eye contact, noticing girls you'd normally be too busy to notice because you're on your phone or rushing back to the office. Your conversation is more direct and sincere. Of course, go dry long enough, what are you going to do? No loving? It's best for everyone to let that valve loose unless you're a Muslim in a free rape zone.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Hungry people hunt better

[–]TheGreatPompey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well as we saw during WW2, hungry people eat Whale.

[–]ArkAngelEV 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you go too long, your brain start swiming in semen and you start behaving in really odd, stupid ways. As illustrated above

[–]PraiseBasedDonut 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What the hell your talking about Muslims?

[–]CQC3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There isn't much truth to nofap as a concept beyond common sense. It's such a ridiculous point of discussion now, but I'll say it quickly:

I stopped fapping to porn long before nofap took traction, and I didn't need the internet to tell me to do it. It just made sense, one day I thought about how I was jerking off to other people having sex and it felt awkward after that to ALWAYS do that.

I experimented from anywhere from a few days to not fapping for a month. Stop watching porn (and if you can handle it, once or twice every month or two is okay). Jerk off as much as you want, but with no porn. Done.

Personally I think it's best to limit to once a week or once every two weeks. Much of nofap is simply placebo beyond those initial periods. The only reason people experience effects is because of expectation bias and placebo effect, ALONG with the fact that they have been jerking off well beyond the point of NATURAL inclination. Meaning they do it because they are bored or it has become a compulsion/habit. Much like eating when you aren't hungry at all. Naturally they feel drained. I will agree here, watching porn for extended periods of time and edging for long periods of time WILL fuck you up, but the majority of people don't do that.

Masturbation is the release on a pressure valve, and it's beneficial to keep some pressure pent up. If all you do is release pressure, you can't be surprised you've got no steam. The issue with nofappers is that they take their obsession with jerking off, make it into a huge deal in their mind and make all sorts of mental associations about masturbation. They think busting a nut is bad, and so when they bust a nut...they feel bad. So what do they do? They then start to obsess with NOT jerking off, same compulsion. Same ups and downs, same obsession over masturbation, just the other way. They still spend a disproportionate amount of time thinking about it.

Porn is nothing serious, too much of anything is bad. The reality about nofap is that it's just a bunch of broscience selectively borrowing from certain aspects of neuroscience. Avid fappers want something to blame for their problems, they don't want to say it's them so they blame porn, they blame fapping. They find some gimmick or novelty to latch onto and then when they adhere to it they feel born anew. The real issue is boredom, of lack of purpose, of isolation maybe.

I won't deny it does people good, and so I don't mind, but it's not NoFap, it's transplanting the responsibility for the catalyst of change to be on not fapping instead of putting it on yourself. People can have confidence in a magic pill or idea, but they won't have it in themselves.

[–]Magnum007 6 points7 points  (0 children)

#lieutenantloser #promoted #captaindontsaveahoe

[–]harsha_hs 6 points7 points  (7 children)

WTF human females are not supposed to like to fuck. Something seriously wrong with her. When every douche human male wants to fuck too, but let me not be that guy. Let me be GOD. You know what GOD does, he does what average human douchebag doesn't do. God don't eats no food, he don't have no sex.

[–]muh_posts 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Yet he still gets a virgin preggers, which is more than can be said for this guy

[–]backtothebeginning11 144 points145 points  (29 children)

It's gotten so bad I can't even go there anymore.

They make the mistake of conflating pornography addiction with normal male lust for women. Go too far and desexualize themselves completely. Largely caused by Gary Wilson, the Jesus of the Your Brain on Porn movement, who after reading his book, I can say is deeply, deeply blue pill. Shame because he is a nice guy, he just needs to stick to the neurochemistry.

Ironic considering the pornography addiction itself is just a manifestation of the completely normal male sexualisation of women based on looks, but I digress. I remember leaving a comment on the subreddit in response to a particularly self-flagellating and beta post along the lines of "the point of NoFap is to take women off the pedestal and give yourself the confidence and potential to explore your options with women" to which I got downvoted into oblivion. Sad!

Beta roots run deep, and men will do anything to convince themselves they are above the average and somehow better than other men.

[–]DwightWolftail 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Man I am thankful for the bastards . They were the ones who showed me the trp door . I once wrote a comment about a slut in there . Got shamed to death and got told togo back to TRP from whence I came . Luckily , once I got to the sidebar , there was no way back .

[–]Slut_Slayer9000 24 points25 points  (0 children)

IMO No fap should be about breaking the addiction of masturbating to porn because it DOES have negative effects, not about this other new age rah rah super power bullshit that people on that subreddit talk about. A. if you can't go a day or a few days of your life without busting a nut, that lack of willpower can creep into other aspects of your life (which I've dealt with first hand), and you need to nip that shit in the bud asap. B. its unhealthy as a fucking man to not be able to control a bodily urge, its a weakness, your life shouldn't be dictated by self imposed orgasm. C. It feeds the male hamster that its totally OK to not approach/seek out women. There are a lot of guys who literally can't control their urges so they either have to FAP or prevent themselves from fapping (depending on which end of the spectrum they are on) right before or leading up to seeing a women, that is fucking ridiculous. On top the fact guys use porn as a crutch to not self improve because they can just jack off to a girl much hotter then they could ever even imaging being with IRL. Now in saying all this, is this the case for everyone that uses porn and masturbates? Nope, but for a large part of men this is defintely the case or at least some what. Its completely fucking healthy to masturbate, if you are doing it right, but its not healthy to jack off once or more a day to porn. I use to think porn is ok, but now that I'm getting deeper into the Red pill and self improvement I think it has negative underlying psychological effects, and I'm weaning myself off, because I've personally used it as a crutch far too long.

[–]CamTalbot[S] 60 points61 points  (11 children)

Young guy goes on NoFap, gets his brain pumped with massive beta threads, doesn't feel good about taking advantage of women -- CUCK! Many such cases!

[–]jimmybda3 33 points34 points  (3 children)

I find the redpill => nofap => redpill order of reading is good. I think nofap is good for those who only read the redpill, but don't execute. Nofap forces you to execute.

[–]mflbatman 9 points10 points  (2 children)

This is the path I found myself on and I agree. Red pill theory is great, it'll pull you out of oneitis or simply make you more aware. NoFap forces your hand. There are extremes on both subs though. Insecure posers here like to belittle others or focus on hating/discrediting different ways of thinking. NoFap does have its share of guys that turn soft or "nice guy" to the extreme though. I try to draw from the positive self improvement and empowerment aspects of both. Not everything applies to everyone. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–]27Rench27 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I like you, I think I might do this as well. Seems like something I could get behind.

[–]mflbatman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like you too man. I believe in you, good luck!

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 24 points25 points  (1 child)

"Taking advantage of women" is such a ridiculous sentence. The emotive connontations that are attached to it can only come from a beta/blue pill mindset.

[–]27Rench27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The girl said she was willing if he could promise it wasn't just a hookup. He only wanted a hookup and he didn't want to "take advantage of her" like that by lying and then leaving.

OP conveniently forgot to add about half of the story.

[–]livem0re 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I love the trump tweet style

[–]RiPing points points [recovered]

The sub sucks but the idea is pretty good. But I guess /r/pornfree is better. Dont masturbate too often and do it without porn and all is fine.

I guess since the majority of men in the world are beta, so is the majority of people on /r/nofap. But at least they're trying to improve which is good.

[–]cellphon 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Can you please provide the cliff notes of his book?

I think NoFap has a ton of merit if you just buy into the physical ideas without any moralizing.

[–]mflbatman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Look into semen retention. That's a good place to start. Also the most noticeable change in your chemical biology.

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (1 child)

"the point of NoFap is to take women off the pedestal and give yourself the confidence and potential to explore your options with women" to which I got downvoted into oblivion. Sad!

A tweet worthy of the Donald himself!!

[–]HonestyOverCivility 10 points11 points  (1 child)

On top of all that the place is practically a cult...one which believes not jerking it will give you super powers...hyperbole obviously, but I've seen some ridiculous claims made about the benefits of not strokin'' it.

[–]Kalidane 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is a comment I should copy pasta for future use.

Rewiring fuckups to be different fuckups.

[–]deville05 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Desire to watch naked women fuck on screen is because visual stimulation arouses us. Being addicted, by which I mean procrasturbation, not healthy. It consumes your brain.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It does but ehat about it dropping your productivity harder than the beat drops in centipide?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But I agree every redpill post I tried has been downvoted to the 9th circle of hell so fast dante would be jelly

[–]absolucion 11 points12 points  (2 children)

"The Real Deal" is such a nebulous term. They can hang out, get to know each other, and fuck and she'd most likely leave that situation feeling good about things even if they didn't get married. This guy shot himself in the foot to prove he was a "nice guy."

A rare breed? Same contents in a newer package.

[–]tallwheel 4 points5 points  (1 child)

This. No one can promise someone their future together in an instant anyway. Just saying "I'd like to see where this takes us" would have been fine, and probably not even a lie. If she really was such an "amazing girl" like he said, then why not give her a chance? She can start off as a plate.

[–]g0dfather93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Sure, I'd like to take this seriously and see how things go."

One sentence and he'd not only have banged a 9-er, he'd also have had an actual shot at dating her and maybe something actually good if it worked out. Yes he was looking for a hookup, but is it seriously that big of a leap to have repeated hookups with her and see if his mind changes? She just didn't want to be a pump and dump prop, and this guy definitely seems thoughtful enough to not treat her as such. What a waste man!

[–][deleted] 60 points61 points  (6 children)

I make no moral judgments, if the dude did not want to fuck her, that is fine. There are lessons to be learned from the interaction. For example he says:

  • "But because of NoFap I saw her in a new light. She wasn't just an object to be lusted over."

Thing is she WANTED to be an object to be lusted over, she wanted him to convince her it was OK to fuck and fuck her rough. What we have here is a wasted opportunity for sex because of blue pill programming.

Feminists keep telling women it is OK to fuck around yet white knights still want to "protect her chastity". Feminists and manginas want an each way bet. On one hand she is encouraged by the sisterhood to explore her sexuality, on the other hand her feelings need to be protected and she is not just "an object".

Women like to fuck as much as we do, but there is cognitive dissonance. TRP encourages us to enjoy the fall, whilst simultaneously condemning the lack of good women and lamenting the reality of the CC. Feminism is inherently unnatural so the paradox is subconsciously apparent to both red pill aware people and blue pill betas.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Will for the win, as usual.

It's all ok for OP to want to white knight if he wishes to. If resisting his instinctive masculine programming to fuck (and instead submitting to a beta schema he learned from his blue pill indoctrination) feels better to him than busting a nut in a HB10, then good for him (and for the next man who'll get her easier because of her sexual frustration).

But the important part in all of this is that the guy genuinely believes she meant what she said and that he did what she truly desired. Blindsided by his blue pill education, he was completely unaware that she really wanted to bang and just needed him to shoulder the responsibility for it.

I hope for the OP that he doesn't stumble on that girl all over another man in the same bar the next weekend. Because if so, while she'll be hoping that hopefully this time this man will get it and give her the plausible deniability she so desires, OP's smug new self esteem as a Rare Breed will deflate real fast.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 3 points4 points  (2 children)

not really. Women take rejection much harder than men do, if she runs into him again, I gaurantee she will be openly hostile.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Perhaps but i would retort that:

  1. In OPs story, she wasn't exactly rejected since he gave her exactly what she said she wanted. Her hindbrain might not take it as a rejection. I agree I'm nitpicking here.

  2. Women may take rejection harder but they also move on much faster. At the same second a male with higher SMV enters her field of view and expresses interest in her, OP won't register on her mind anymore. As per war brides principle.

  3. Women's hostility may take the form of completely ignoring OP. I personally experienced women who I rejected just acting like I never existed, out of spite or in an effort to move on.

  4. Assuming you're very right and she reacts personally and with hostility, this doesn't necessarily invalidate my comment that his ego will deflate real fast when she sees him flirting with another man (out of hostility to him, aka make him jealous, or not)

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

she definitely moved on much faster. She didn't even put her clothes on before she was setting up the branch swing, according to OP

[–]failingtheturingtest 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But he definitely saved her.

He told her she deserves better. And thanks to him, she's going to go out and find a guy that will not use his own self-induced shame of sex to prevent her getting laid.


[–]ArkAngelEV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"But because I am an idiot and am unable to take opportunities served on a silver platter in front of me, like an autitst I listened to her words and not her actions and talked myself out of what wouldve been a mutally beneficial sex marathon with a hot girl. I listened to her hangups; hangups that are a direct consequence of her actions but because I think I am some sort of medieval knight, I passed up the chance of amazing sex.

Little did I know, once she left, she went home and called 2 of the guys that she had "bad side of hookups" with and came over and double penetrated her. I guess I forgot that she is her own person too, capable of making her own decisions and havng her own desires. Whoops

[–]Infinitezen points points [recovered]

Why the fuck do you even care? Is it a threat to your masculinity when some guy decides he doesn't care to pump and dump some random girl? I'm far more embarrassed for your sake than his.

[–]Jc968 118 points119 points  (5 children)

Agreed, this bullshit is so cringeworthy it makes men sound like a bunch of gossiping butthurts. Grow the fuck up and worry about your own life op.

[–]1jb_trp 62 points63 points  (2 children)

"Hey, did you hear about the guy who chose not to have sex? Big gulps, huh?"

[–]ichivictus 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I always thought the point of showing blue pill examples wasn't to necessarily make fun of the blue pill mentality but to reinforce that there is a clear distinction between red and blue school of thought. I don't think this example is the best but nobody is making fun of a specific person. It's just an example. But I'm also biased because the examples posted here are what initially red pilled me years ago.

[–]TeflonDon3000 27 points28 points  (11 children)

Fuck I'm so happy someone said this shit.

Why is there this weird trend of judging in minute detail what is beta and what is alpha. Shit like that makes TRP seem like some dogmatic religion.

Saying something is beta, makes you beta you stupid fuck. Care about your own life, decide what is alpha to you, on your terms, then let everyone else judge you.

[–]purduered 15 points16 points  (1 child)

There has been a huge influx of what you could call "wanna be alphas." They essentially try to assert themselves as dominant through the belittlement of others. In reality it is based on the desire to be superior over others and trying to display this to whomever their audience is. In my opinion this is what I would call beta alpha behavior. It is acting in a way that you think will signal being alpha to others and the desire is to appease the target group. This in itself is beta because you are basing your actions on what others will think rather than autonomously making decisions for yourself without external influence. One of the key traits of a real alpha is that your actions are not dictated or influenced by the views of others. In doing so you would be living in a way that is for the approval by others, rather than for the gratification of the self.

[–]One_friendship_plz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Reason why I only check on this subreddit maybe 3-5 times at most a year now.

I only needed this subreddit to confirm I'm not just imagining the way sexual relationships work and whether or not I should get over the idea of having an ideal woman in my life.

Couldn't give a shit if people view me as alpha or not. It's all about getting what I want when I want.

[–]27Rench27 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Stuff like this post is why I've always thought Red Pillers are a bunch of testosterone-fueled fuckboys (though obviously based on the upvotes of the second comment, this isn't all true).

A post calling somebody a cuck/beta/white knight for not fucking every girl possible gets hundreds of upvotes on this sub. That says something to the rest of reddit.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, when there's a subreddit that thousands of men subscribe to that proliferates this shitty anti-male sexuality agenda, and fellow men are Gif Aziz being brainwashed by this, then someone needs to post a warning somewhere to bring these "fapstronauts" back to reality

Coming from someone whom the nofap propaganda really fucked up, shit like this really angers me...

[–]dankvibez 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'd like to expand on this actually. The reason that feminism is a problem is because it is rewarding males with sex who are not good for western civilization. It doesn't matter how much you produce, whether you are an engineer, doctor, etc. Sex is now more and more becoming based upon traits that would have benefited us long before civilization came into existence. These traits include the dark triad, narcissism, psychopathy and machiavellianism. I understand that you have this new "red pill mindset". But remember it's more than just getting laid. Realize that you are essentially being forced to adopt a crappy personality, not be nice to people, act like you don't care about women etc. because our current environment rewards these things with sex. This wouldn't be the case as much if we were living in the 1950's. You wouldn't have a range of hotties on tinder to get wet with your "bad boy" game. You also wouldn't have to deal with all this red pill bullshit to keep your marriage together. Your wife wouldn't be dreaming about other cocks constantly (she wouldn't have fucked 100 men previously) and if she was, she wouldn't dare act on it for fear of being shamed in that society. Just keep in mind at the end of the day you are here because of a reaction to feminism. Don't let them decide your morals at the end of the day.

[–]SmilingWatermelon 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I'm a nofapper myself. So the title insinuates we're all betas. When in reality that was just a beta that does nofap. This guy turned down the girl, he threw his fish back into the water. Why the aren't you happy OP? That means more fish. Grab your pole and go outside.

[–]analyticaltoafault 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Is it nofap if I'm not grabbing my pole indoors or what?

[–]WolfofAnarchy 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Nofap is mostly not masturbating or watching porn for 90 days, and then comparing how you feel and how confident you are to day 0, and then ask yourself if you're continuing.

[–]NibblyPig 30 points31 points  (8 children)

Why do you care? It is an observation of rp vs bp mentality. This sub has many posts to that effect. They are good for reassurance and reminding that you're on the right track.

[–]V4PINDT1992 13 points14 points  (7 children)

This is a poor example of bp. If he wants to not treat a woman as a piece of ass then whatever.

[–]purduered 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Correct. Blue pill is a certain sexual strategy that is a lie in reality. This guy consciously made a decision not to act on a certain desire he had. That is not necessarily blue pill. Honestly it's a guy that has control over his sexuality and decides if he wants to fuck a girl or not. This isn't a story of him thinking he did the right things and didn't get the result he wanted. It's an instance of him deciding he didn't want to hit it given further interaction with the woman.

[–]kellykebab 5 points6 points  (5 children)

He clearly didn't do the deed because of a "blue pill" mentality, though. The girl put up incredibly weak LMR and his white knight response kicked into overdrive. He didn't not have sex because he wasn't feeling it, he failed to close because he imagined this elaborate psychodrama that probably wasn't even real. If there is any validity to RP theory, that guy's behavior is textbook BP.

[–]V4PINDT1992 0 points1 point  (4 children)

A part of red pill is improving ones self. In order to achieve happiness. If he would have been unhappy if he lied, and hit it and quit it, then isnt that against red pill philosophy? Last time i checked red pill is more than just hooking up with girls.

[–]Ganaria_Gente -1 points0 points  (2 children)

And you clicked on this thread...

[–]V4PINDT1992 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Honestly i agree with him. Its not necessarily beta to have morals, or look at women as people.

Mind you im avid red pill.

[–]27Rench27 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you read the entire post, that guy said the girl wanted him if he could promise he wanted something more than just a hookup. He decided not to lie to her for the ass, and they didn't bang. I don't know why that's beta or even related to the pills, it's just having a semblance of decency.

[–]verify_account points points [recovered]

Nobody cares if he wants to not pump a random girl but if he does it because of BroSciene it's good to point it out so other people here don't fall for that trap.

It's bunk.

[–]Infinitezen 17 points18 points  (0 children)

To me, it's all a matter of how of how authentic your moral feelings are. If you yourself act in a way that you genuinely approve of then you will be a much happier person overall. If you don't do what you really want to do because of other peoples version of "morality" then yeah, you are probably not on a genuine path to happiness or success.

Some guys want casual sex, others want meaningful relationships, still others seek to be happy totally by themselves or without Women. I really don't see anything wrong with wanting any of these things as long as you are genuine and self critical about your desires.

[–]dankvibez 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think that if this guy's moral code he has developed tell him that he shouldn't have sex with her, then its OK if he doesn't. I think the idea of having any morals = pussy is a bad route to go down for society.

[–]JoDoStaffShow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God I was glad to see this was the top comment.

[–]circlhat 0 points1 point  (1 child)

  • He has a unhealthy attitude and responsibility about sex (Check(
  • Does "Favors" without asking
  • White knights without asking
  • Assuming her emotional state and making decisions

when some guy decides he doesn't care to pump and dump some random girl?

His attitude and reasoning are a issue and very unhealthy

Is it a threat to your masculinity

Typical feminist shaming

I told her I could have manipulated her to get in her pants

You don't need to manipulate women to get in their pants, he sees Alpha's as manipulators who hurt women, and women as princesses in distress

[–]mi1a 93 points94 points  (23 children)

Don't think he's a "cuck" because he has morals. She definitely wanted to fuck, and this was just LMR, but he didn't pick op on that, and thought she was really only looking to have sex if they could be serious, and he decided to do the right thing and not be dishonest with her. Not completely sure how I would have handled this, but definitely would treat it as LMR. Any ideas of a good response? If the only way for us to have sex would be for me to lie to her, we wouldn't be having sex. Not only is it a shitty thing to do, it's just asking for a delayed rape accusation.

TRP is amoral. That doesn't mean you need to be immoral.

[–]qitjch 50 points51 points  (6 children)

I completely agree with you on the morality aspect. I would've also treated this as LMR, since she was clearly DTF. Remember, "listen to her actions not her words."

She told me she'd been on the bad side of hook ups recently and only wanted to go further if this was going to be the real deal. Right then and there, It would have been so easy for me to lie, say I wanted the real thing too, and proceed to get her naked.

I think in OP's mind, he automatically assumes if he has sex with her that he's committing to some insane LTR situation right out the gate and anything he says that doesn't 100% align with that stance is being 'manipulative.' Personally, I would've said something along the lines of, "I won't make any promises, but I'm willing to find out where this takes us." You're being honest about the chance that you may hurt her but at the same time providing the possibility for commitment if she earns it. I don't see this as being manipulative or deceitful in anyway unless you 100% already know that you are only going for the ONS.

[–]NiceKicksGabe 8 points9 points  (3 children)

That last sentence is what I'm struggling with. I honestly have no idea whether I believe the shit I say at this point. Half of the time, I don't even remember what the hell I say to these women.

[–]eccentricrealist 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It depends on the person. I have an insane memory for these things to the point where I can remember exactly what I say and what she says, and it's good for catching inconsistencies, but I can imagine that some people just aren't good at it or don't care enough.

[–]NiceKicksGabe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess I'm just not into the chicks im seeing lately. I want to say I just don't care enough to care.

[–]muh_posts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its like computer programming... give the right input and you get the output you want.

When you're good with coding, you don't even remember why you do what you do anymore. Unconscious Competence.

[–]kellykebab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great answer. Sometimes when girls say they've had a few bad hookups, nice guys will thinks it's because the last guy didn't call her quick enough the next day, when really she had two guys in a row fuck her dry and insult her or some crazy shit. Or maybe she's just having a bad day and she really fell for the last guy. You just don't know. As long as you act fun, halfway reasonable and you don't explicitly promise shit you will never deliver, these girls will get over it.

Sadly, most of them are unhappy because they have no idea what they're fucking doing in life. If that's a turnoff, by all means avoid. But it's not dick #34's problem.

[–]1OneRedSock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely LMR. Your response is spot on.

I'm confused why we're even analyzing this as moral dilemma. Her actions are all that matter; after all, no one expects a healthy LTR from a random ONS bar hookup. That's no basis for a "real" relationship.

This is ASD -- she wants to know that this time it's going to be special; it's going to mean something. An alternative response: "I don't go home with just any girl I see; lets see where this goes". You're still not making promises and you're also signaling that you chose her out of all the options you had. This makes her think: "oh wow, this must be special if he chose me of all people".

You don't have to lie, but you also don't dump on them the fact that you just got over a 6 month relationship and other past relationship garbage. That'll dry her up quicker than reheating a chicken breast in the microwave.

Also, note the verbal contract she's expecting: sex in exchange for "the real deal" -- a relationship. Historically, there's been a word for this: marriage. This is the duplicitous nature of the blue pill world: they want their cake and to eat it, too. Of course she would want him to confirm that this will be the real deal, that is until she gets bored and moves on. Women want to have sex, but want it to also feel special. Make them believe it is that special, and you can do this without having to lie.

[–]francisco_DANKonia 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I think the best response is probably to stop and say you can't promise anything, but imply you could try. That way it passes both shit tests and comfort tests. And is it really that difficult to "try"? If you can't stand her for 2 seconds, you probably shouldn't be desperate enough to sleep with her.

[–]Lsegundo 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Down voted the original post. "NoFapper" picked up a hot chick. He can do it again pretty easily. abundance mentality

She told me she'd been on the bad side of hook ups recently and only wanted to go further if this was going to be the real deal.

Does the "real deal" mean LTR or just not a p&d? I am looking for FWBs. I would have explained that to her and let her decide. She probably would have given it up. TRP has taught me women say things, but will often change their mind if you stay strong.

A recent hookup up told me I had to stop sleeping with anyone else before I had sex with her. I declined. A week later(the next time we spoke) she gave in and gave it up.

[–]moontripper1246 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Keep escalating/pumping buying temp instead of asking the question "Is there something wrong???". If there IS something wrong, you don't need to know the details, because solving shit logically won't get you laid. You need to get her mind off it and escalate.

Another option. DON'T LIE TO HER. She said she's been on the bad end of hookups lately. Reframe this whole experience as being a GOOD hookup. Wax and wane abut how special she is (This isn't lying for me because you can always find something good/unique in every girl I'm about to fuck.) and how you just don't do relationships because of nature needing us to explore and follow impulses (obviously all the while physically escalating a little bit) bam, start making out again and it ought to be on from there.

If you can't spit out enough true flowery bullshit to bust through this kind of LMR (as in she's obviously down but needs just a little comfort/moral justification), then you need to go out and specifically work on it, because its not that hard and its really fun loll

You should never need to lie to get laid. If you do, you need to work on your game.

But it does make things easier loll

And whether lying is amoral or not is always up to the individual.....

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's a cuck because he has performance anxiety and nerves because he's a sexually inexperienced nofapper, and he was almost happy to have some easy out where he could not risk embarassing himself and salvage his pride. He rationalized that as morals, but let's be real, he's not deciding this out of morals, he's deciding it out of anxiety and self-consciousness and lack of confidence. He's so in his head that he can't just go with his and her natural programming.

[–]throwa999 points points [recovered]

A simple "we don't need to have sex yet" would have been fine. He went into chatty mode about his past relationships, effectively turning her off completely.

He should have taken one step backward and waited to take two steps forward.

[–]kellykebab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't lie, you just diffuse the situation. No normal girl is going to be expecting a relationship contract while making out, she just wants to test your character. If you play off the comment and act like you're just trying to have fun in the moment, she'll likely mellow out and go along for the ride. If she truly isn't interested in hooking up, she'll have the good sense to not make out with you at your place or she'll press you for a clear answer about your relationship goals. If you blowing off her comment about bad hookups doesn't cause her to actually slow down in the moment, it clearly wasn't a serious concern and she was shit testing or had a 2 second mood. Obviously, if the girl just isn't getting into it physically, you gotta stop and it's not going to be hot anyway.

Most of these situations are about body language over words.

[–]Hadoukenz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Glad you made a post about nofap, thought I was alone thinking this about that post

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Why is concern trolling not allowed on TRP but moralizing and shaming men into having sex ok?

This provides absolutely zero value towards sexual strategy.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Reason I left nofap to many betas

[–]WeightsNCheatDates 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Yeahhh, I saw this too. I'm all for the benefits of nofap, and if anything it frees up time for me to be more productive, but this shit over there is getting out of hand.

There's no way to swing that to shed a positive light on it. The dude bitched out.

[–]francisco_DANKonia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm working on my theory, that men are driven by the desire to be a hero and women are driven by the desire to be worshipped/loved. This story fits it perfectly. The guy genuinely feels like a hero because he saved a ho. The girl only stopped because if she just gives it up, she won't be worshipped/respected/loved. She wanted him to want it even more and ravage her and then keep her around in the morning. Instead, he didn't give her what she wanted, he gave her what he thought she needed.

EDIT: I think I have come up with better terms for my thoughts. Men want to be needed for what they do, women wanted to be needed emotionally.

EDIT2: Even better- men want to be a hero, women want to be adored (by a hero)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I read this today and cringed hard because that used to be me.

[–]JFMX1996 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lmfao. A lot of other NoFap dudes who would've slayed that shit without a doubt. Fuck, imagine busting a load on a bitches face after months of not ejaculating. Hahaha.

NoFap in combination with TRP (only ejaculating when you actually have sex) is good.

All that shit like degenerate pornography and frequent masturbation is a nuisance. When you stop glorifying girls by jacking off to them in your head and lending them the power of your fantasies, they become more like your equals (or less) as opposed to this pedestalized sex-god you have them imagined as. Way easier to pick up.

[–]AudioRebellion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm happy for the guy for going to a club and picking up a girl instead of fapping because many guys would rather stay at home. To get to that point takes a lot of work. (I've been there myself)

I think the reason why the dude was so proud of himself was because he was able to break old thought patterns and behavior that controlled his life previously.

So what if he didn't fuck a hot girl he met at a club? Maybe it wasn't his goal that night to fuck a club slut. Not everyone has the same value system as everyone else. Maybe he was the type of guy who would fuck anything at the club and that lead him down the path of porn addiction. There are a lot of variables at play here we don't have the information on.

[–]Superspathi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He feels good about himself. Isn't that valuable?

[–]batterup22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't fault a man for being honest.

[–]PedroIsWatching 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I've noticed a lot of overlap in the NoFap and MGTOW communities on Reddit - in that both groups are comprised of weak-willed bitches that try and pretend their biological urges don't exist. There's nothing noble about mentally castrating yourself, just like there's nothing noble in willfully checking out of the game.

[–]verify_account points points [recovered]

NoFap is literally a chirstcuck meme. It's nothing but broscience.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

It seems to work for me. Since I stopped I've picked up a few chicks, haven't fucked any yet due to the situation I'm currently in (long story). A few more days and I'll be able to safely and comfortably escalate and close with at least one. I think it only makes a difference if you beat off so much you don't get horny throughout the day. It's harder to pick up girls when your dick is tired and dead, when it isn't you're more likely to drop sexual innuendos mid conversation, which is good for escalating.

[–]WerewolfofWS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed - I feel some cognitive benefits and decreased anxiety/increased confidence.

[–]drivinward 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is it too difficult for people to fap and have sex in the same period of their life? Also because many girls love to masturbate... not only when they don't have sex for a period of time.

[–]smirk_addict 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't personally see the benefits of nofap. I tried it. It made me desperate and really bad at sex. I didn't have any stamina. I just stay away from porn.

[–]Kalidane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sitting here waiting for a train laughing like a maniac.

[–]hardly_incognito 1 point2 points  (0 children)

God the cringe is real. I remember back when I was super-beta and would hamster reasons for justifying why I pussed out to fuck a woman --- usually by implications of being "larger than life" and above "sex" with a woman due to some unknown virtue that my stupid ass idea was supposed to posses.

Reality is people like this are still insecure and afraid of rejection. They cling to the bull shit we hear, such as how wrong it is to sexually objectify women, and trumpet their "victory" to the beta masses in hopes of receiving a pat on the back for having been such a bitch.

[–]2cool4ufags 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah nofap is beta af usually, but I'm participating in nofap and can honestly say my confidence, productivity, and aggression in the gym is through the roof (I'm at two weeks rn)

[–]JimmyHustle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what a fucking faggot

[–]Raikkonen716 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Guys, just try to search for "sex" in nofap. You will see plenty of guys who are HAPPY not to have sex with girls. Virgins who have the chance, but willingly refuse to have sex. Demonising those who ask for help in getting a gf/having sex.


[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is why I always say men can hamster HARDER than women. We have the logical faculties to create these intricate system of webs and beliefs and axioms to support our inner pussy. It's like.. when a bitch hamsters, she'll say "I JUST FEEL THIS WAY" and stick her fingers in her ear and scream "LALALALALA". Whereas a man will hamster by sitting you down and having an intellectual debate about how indeed actually his seemingly weak result was due to his moral superiority - and he'll have an elaborate system of logical justifications to prove it.

I see it all the fucking time. Guys who have rationalized getting cuckolded on the regular as them being liberated great men who've transcended the jealousy and pride involved in "owning" their fierce, independent wives.

Guys who've rationalized getting fat and gross as acceptable due to their rise in social / financial status - they can prove that indeed it all balances out on some grand mathematical scale.

Guys who can explain in great gory detail why dating a slut with 50+ partners is better and why sex count shouldn't matter in a marriage partner and mother of their own fucking children.

And of course, guys like this who get into a cult / hobby in order to IMPROVE THEIR PENILE FUNCTION and GET OVER INSECURITIES ABOUT SEX.... and then get so afraid and anxious about their performance when the time comes for them to actually potentially have sex that they turn her down. (And then logically explain it like it's the most reasonable thing in the world that they saved her from having to experience sex).

Men hamster harder than women sometimes. The difference with women is their ability to tolerate their hamstering - women can tolerate all the hamstering in the world and not suffer any mental incongruence. She can cheat all day, she can branch swing, she can lie about n count, she can gold dig, she can break up her best friend's marriage to validate her ego, etc, and when she rationalizes it away, she legitimately won't even feel bad or have to mentally agonize over it ever again. As soon as she's mentally refactored her flaws into strengths, she's done.

The guy, unfortanately... he knows. Deep down, in his heart of hearts, this man knows he is a fucking loser and he wishes she didn't feel so nervous in the moment. He wished he seized life by the horns and just mauled this bitch. He wishes he lifted her up, slammed her down, and fucked her for the 3.5 seconds his plugged up balls would have permitted him.

But he didn't and he has to live with it. The validation from other betas saying "yeah bro you did the right thing, go team no fap!!!" might feel good for now. The shitty memes might make him laugh and feel like he's part of some community that has his back. But then he goes back into school, he walks around campus watching all of the girls he wishes he could have, and he hates himself for being the man he is.

That's the problem with hamstering as a man. Women get a free pass, they get to do it to their heart's content and they experience no consequences until they become old and unattractive. Mentally they get to live with it without any regret or guilt or shame. Men don't.

[–]ExplodingSamsung 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A rare breed. I died. bahahahaha

[–]WhiskeyAndCondoms 1 point2 points  (0 children)

NoFap is a hoax.
Just because you don't touch yourself doesn't mean women are gonna want to mount you as soon as they meet you. It doesn't mean you're superior to other people and it definitely won't make you either the person you want to be or the best person you could become.
Actually working on yourself, going to the gym, getting education, getting the right job, going out does. NoFap has nothing to do with it.
The only benefit NoFap has is that it can help you get rid of a porn addiction but it's not necessary.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yea bro cause it's so fucked up when a guy has a hot chick wanting to fuck him but decides not to. You're right, we should live in a utopian society where by we fuck absolutely any good looking chick that throws themselves out way. We do not have a choice, we just do it, good one, that's a great idea.

I'm all for banging hot chicks using masculinity as the main weapon but fuck me, there's nothing wrong with turning down a girl. Sure, the reason the guy did it was teetering on the side of beta but in general, it's not blue pill to turn em down.

And look at you, this guy managed to get over an addiction frowned upon in this sub and here you are digging into him. It's fuck heads like you that give this sub such a bad name. Support the guy that is taking steps to change.

[–]fackdack 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Just wow...

This is maybe the most emasculated man I've heard off, perhaps more than a willing cuckold.

I don't get it, I tried nofap for 4 weeks, at the end of it I found myself hitting on a whale...I was that horny.

[–]greatslyfer 14 points15 points  (0 children)

You could have hit on someone else lol

[–]yuube 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Some guys are addicted to porn and need that horniness to help push them to talk to real women. Was essentially the idea.

[–]newmeforever 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What is the point of this post?

[–]Fredo100 1 point2 points  (1 child)

When will these whiteknights realise that sex does not = commitment.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It might be for them, though. It might be that they cannot have sex without developing limerence.

On the flip side, if they fucked a few more times, they wouldn't have that problem.

[–]Sighters 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those types of posts are why i unsubscribed a long time ago, that sub is only going downhill.

[–]Youngsweppy 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm not really seeing the issue here. The "nofap seeing in a different light" thing is kind of silly. But if the girl was genuinely being honest with him, and he chose not take advantage of the situation, why does that make him a "beta cuckhold"

The dude told her he just wanted a hookup, and dident pursue it because of this. That's auctually a pretty dope move, dude just wants to fuck, not deal with emotional baggage or do anything to further her emotional issues.

I for one personally prefur a girl who knows how it goes down instead of a girl wanting emotional involvement. I've turned down girls for similar reasons, and grabbed a down girl instead. I'm just not sure why everyones bombing on this dude, he could potentially bag more women then this whole thread combined. He auctually made a good guy move here.

[–]252life 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I agree with you. He made a decision and stands by it. Doesn't sound beta to me. Lying is more of a beta guy trait.

[–]clavabot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sounds bad when one fails at nofap hardcore beta, choosing porn over reality!

[–]suited_up_gorilla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Source? I sincerely doubt an habitual porn user could hop to a bar, pull the hottest chick and then push her off like that. It sounds made up. Nofap is notoriously easy to troll. Just post the weirdest shit about how not touching your dick makes you a better human and these fools will applaud and cheer.

[–]jeteraway2345 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't even need to be a NoFapper to empathize. After a long time off, I find other people gross lol. Often takes a girl making a move for me to ease back into it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I saw this one, after I read that I felt shame for himself.

[–]Zchavago 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem is that people think that Chad doesn't have to do the same thing. He has to make things go his way to get the ass, too. That includes saying "sure baby im in this for the long haul". Pussy just doesn't fall on his dick.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah i saw this and shook my head.

if she is down to fuck, let her fuck man!

[–]EagleChunks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree with the way that he handled that, I think it could have still gone well. I still don't think that this necessarily means that he is a beta, he just has different goals.

[–]trapaik 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for posting this!! This would be downvoted to hell on that circle jerk , no fap is GOOD but getting bitches is better I could fap tonight the next day and the one after and still be the same, their getting crazy now talking about girls loooking at them when they don't fap

[–]deville05 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So what would be a good response to that?

[–]harsha_hs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because of guys like these, we get to have sex with many ladies. Gentlemen, Never forget that!

[–]Idontlooklikeelvis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hoped someone would make a post about this

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 0 points1 point  (0 children)

she straight up shit tested him when her asd kicked in and he took the bait. she's most likely glad that it turned out the way it did and went on to find another guy who would fuck her seven ways from sunday

[–]streetkingz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea thats the dumbest logic I have ever heard of, she was already on top of him straddling , the deal was sealed and she wanted it, she let HIM talk her out of it. Cant really get any worse than that. That must be an instant turn off for a girl to have a guy become a sniveling beta like that in front of her eyes. Almost guaranteed she either walked out of there disappointed or confused about what had just happened. I highly doubt she walked out of there thinking what a great amazing guy he is. Girls want you to lie in that situation even if they wouldnt admit it. That doesnt mean they hope it wont become something more (sometimes it does) but in the heat of the moment they hope you want it enough to at least say it at the time.

[–]AshyBoneVR4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything before this point

I told her I could have manipulated her to get in her pants but she, being an amazing girl, deserved better. And I told her she should go home before I hurt her more.

was ok with me. that, and everything after just screamed bitch to me. I don't understand how the fuck this Nofap bull shit makes guys "open their eyes" "see the light" "be a new man' .... You're not touching your dick. Get over yourself.

[–]improvingme63 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Why would you think I want to have sex with you?" -> procede to smash

[–]silver-gun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How would TRP response when she said she wanted the real thing?

[–]NakedAndBehindYou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like she did some typical last minute resistance and he failed because he was beta as hell.

[–]Nofaptbag 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Something to say, NoFap doesn't fix the beta mentality because the beta mentality is not solely a trait of a person who profusely jacks off to things he doesn't naturally like. NoFap does however reduce the betaness within a being. In this case, the person was always has a beta nature. But that doesn't mean nofap doesn't help reduce betaness in people. Most examples can be found on the subreddit itself.

[–]circlhat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And this is why I say time and time again nice guys aren't faking shit

I could not be prouder of myself. I'm a new man. A rare breed.

Nice guys are taught to go against their instinct and look out for someone else's best interests

[–]g0dfather93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know about him being a cuck or desexualized by NoFap, but I think there's a very important lesson about female psychology here.

Women like sex. They like no frills hook ups. Period. This woman might be saying the truth that she had bad experiences - bad relationships, creepy guys, or maybe one of the two got attached emotionally. The only reason she said what she did was to make her feel that her bad choice in men isn't the problem, the hooking up is. Hence, she wants to go for the "real deal", whatever that even means when you're rubbing your vag over a guy you met 2 hours ago. People take longer to buy a couch ffs.

I've seen this to be a very common thing among women across countries and cultures. They want to fuck, but they want to feel like it was part of something better. Very rarely you'll find a chick who's happy and comfortable calling a hookup exactly that, with no expectations and zero clinging. Whether it's your 16 year old virgin high school girl, or a 26 year old middle aged woman, if she's in a situation which can lead to sex, she wants to bang, man. Take the charge, and don't go all sentimental while she's unwrapping the rubber. Men aren't the only ones who want to shut off the brain and just enjoy the ride for a while.

Is it cheating or manipulation? No. Relationship will develop if it has to, and it won't if it's not going to. The sex is nearly independent of it. And if you think that you need to have a "serious goal" before banging someone you picked up at a bar over drinks, I think you're the one who needs to re-think your priorities for a relationship.

[–]0kool74 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Achievement unlocked......#CaptainSaveaHoe lol

[–]take1fortheteam 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I strongly disagree with your opinion.

I think it all depends on what your goals are.

For example:

Bob is simple. He wants a mustang because he LOVES MUSTANGS. He participates in a contest and wins a blimp. Bob doesn't want a blimp. Bob sells his blimp and buys a MUSTANG. Bob is happy. Joe doesn't like MUSTANGS. Joe thinks bob is stupid for not keeping the blimp. Bob and Joe are very different.

The point I'm trying to get across is simple. This "blue pill guy" you are talking about may have different goals than you. He may be at a different stage than you. I think he has an issue with porn and feels that he was looking at women as sex objects, walking fleshlights let's say.

He feels proud that he could finally resist his urge to just bang anything that walks and control himself. To him, this is an acheivement.

You, on the other hand, feel that he is an idiot and, in fact, I agree with you. I would have done things much differently, but that's why he is him and I am me.

[–]goldnhorde 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you know, there are things you can not un-say, un-hear, or un-see. and at times that permanence is a good thing.

sometimes it bites you in the ass. now the subject ASKED what the problem was. and in that was told something he could not un-hear.

now I have a problem with this suddenly confessional of the girl in question as she was suffering from the "I'm jumping into bed with all these guys .... why won't any of them respect me" syndrome. I don't know how stupid a woman has to be to take this approach ... and so many do. of course this could have been her "test in a can" she has been saving up for anytime a guy actually stops and asks her if she is ok after some obvious prompts during foreplay. it could all be a very elaborate scheme. I am inclined to say it is part of "her routine". yeah, she is going to jump into bed with everyone, but she goes ahead and throws the hooks out in case there is a taker.

so you have this guy who just had a girl say she wants a relationship, though she came back to his place with no expectations.

the guy folded tent. he wanted nothing to do with her after that. he wanted a one nighter and she was making it clear that she wanted more and that she didn't want to continue if it wasn't.

option 1 ... tell her it's not going any further and see what happens. option 2 .... lie. tell her that things are awesome and this must be love. and to be honest about the situation in my opinion, give her the deniability that she was looking for to have another one night stand and tell her friends again how much men suck and how they lie to just trick her out of her pants.

ok, first, if you have to lie to get into a girls pants .... I just don't see how you think it's funny, cool, manly, or alpha. this kind of douche behavior should not have any type of positive adjective attached to it. once again, there are too many options to stick on a bad one.

I still do not get it. improving yourself, building and maintaining confidence, understanding the mind set of the opposite sex, understanding the social and real world issues of male/female interaction, etc., etc. why do so many people reading this find lying in this situation acceptable. I do think she is looking for that deniability that is so common right before sex ... and he could have given her that without lying.

[–]Moneyley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I could not be prouder of myself. I'm a new man. A rare breed.

does he drive a bmw too? This Nofapper is such a supreme gentleman


[–]TheGreatPompey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know I will get downvotes for this, but I think NoFap can be unhelpful if it leads to guys going for sub-5 girls out of frustration

[–]eccentricrealist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude obviously you didn't read about his superpowers

[–]ChummyChad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So how would you respond in a situation like this?

I would just smile and spout nonsense like "it's about enjoying the moment we share together bla bla bla" proceed to escalate

[–]tolerantman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NoFap is castrating yourself to the point where the ugliest, fattest bitches in the world are good enough, and then claiming how much better you are now that you stick your dick inside a beast.

[–]RedPillRobin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just heard of this nofap thing? That can't be healthy. Shit if I don't fap I lust worse for women until pain.

[–]RedPillRobin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just heard of this nofap thing? That can't be healthy. Shit if I don't fap I lust worse for women until pain.

[–]Th3Dizzler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would have fucked her first, then be honest, Slot of shit can change within a few hours

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nofap is fileed with white knights bro like nofap is rare but nofapper conservative redpillers are like bloody unicorns xD

[–]SouloftheVoid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He probably would have just prematurely ejaculated anyway.

[–]1ozaku7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do I call an emotion of laughing at something, yet cringing so hard that I almost need to cry?

She told me she'd been on the bad side of hook ups recently and only wanted to go further if this was going to be the real deal.

No idea what she means with the real deal, I wasn't sitting in this closet and eavesdropping or something, but if she means relationships, she needs to look somewhere else than a bar and fuck him within a couple of hours, lol. Otherwise, if she wants to get fucked hard, I can imagine she wasn't really picky and feels like a slut for allowing so many betas inside of her. N-count is one thing, the quality she allows inside is another.

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