Red Pill TheoryStill Teetering on the Red Pill Fence? Check Out This Girl's FB Post (self.TheRedPill)

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My first contribution to TRP.

I met this girl recently and went on her timeline to get a sense of who she is. To my amazement, I discovered this gem. This was originally posted when the girl was 18. She reblogged it on FB in 2016 when she was 22 and I couldn't help but laugh as I was reading it while simultaneously being amazed at her self-awareness at a young age. Enjoy reading the inner thinking of women when it deals with mate selections...

"So I have been thinking about why girls are not attracted to the “nice” guys. It has come to my attention that those “bad” guys as we call them are in fact cooler and more outgoing than the nice guys. They know just the thing to say to make a girl feel happy and to make her smile. Yes, their words might be fake and their intentions might not be the most ideal, but at least they know the tricks needed to succeed in life.

Darwin’s theory of survival has taught us survival of the fittest. To all the nice guys out there: it’s not that we don’t like you and friendzoned you because you are so nice, it is because you are shy, insecure, and somewhat conceited. You think you are so “nice”, the best person a girl could ask for if we gave you guys a chance. How can we give you a chance if you are hiding behind that “I am nice” persona. Just be yourself.

It is true that girls are attracted to coolness and maturity. Those things takes time to develop you can’t be cool right away. Nevertheless, have no fear, there’s hope. In time, as the marriage age comes around, us girls will stop looking for the cool guys who would set our heart rate racing.

No, our ideal person would change. [We] no longer need someone to give us a roller coaster of emotions, we will look for a person who is caring, successful, and sweet. Someone we could call our best friend.

Hey nice guys out there, for now you are the shoulder to cry on, the person we come to when our problems are too heavy for us to carry. You will [be] the first thought on our mind when we feel ugly, insecure, and terrible because we know you won’t judge us and because we know you are won’t hurt us. We won’t run to our boyfriends and complain and act dramatic.

There is a certain level of closeness when we become afraid of [the boyfriend] judging us; we hand picked our words to make sure everything would be “perfect”. But to the “nice” guys we speak our mind, pour our tears, and spill our hearts.

YOU guys still have hope. Just because you might not be perfect for us now doesn’t that that would persist. The world is changing by the second and the nice guys would also change. So that someday, just someday you guys might become more than just a guy friend to a girl.

To all the nice guys out there: one day we might free you from the the friendzone and call you not someone who is a more than a friend, but a soul mate, the best friend a girl could ever call hers forever."


  1. Alphas give me a roller coaster of emotions. I know they lie, but it feels so good.

  2. Darwin's survival of the fittest primes males. Man the fuck up and own who you are.

  3. I will settle down for a beta when thinking about marriage. Go ahead and line up for me once I'm done with the "bad" guys. I will evaluate your successes and make a decision between my betas.

The writing gets worse as you read and harder to understand with grammatical errors, but you get the general idea. Of course subconsciously or consciously, she forgets to mention a crucial aspect. She will still get tingles from Chad while the "newly wed un-friendzoned beta" provides the "boring stuff."

Uh Oh.

[–][deleted] 207 points208 points  (92 children)

Female websites are full of these sort of "essays". She probably read a similar post on Jezebel or Askwomen and then parroted it all over Facebook, no doubt to many likes from women and manginas alike. Even though she speaks in what appears to be red pill truths, the depths of her self delusion are still evident. The solipsism is as repulsive as ever. The last paragraph pretty much sums it up:

  • "To all the nice guys out there: one day we might free you from the the friendzone and call you not someone who is a more than a friend, but a soul mate, the best friend a girl could ever call hers forever."

One day in this little princess' imaginary world she will hand over the last vestiges of her Chad ravaged, post wall, soul destroyed self to her beta "soul mate". She thinks that she will be the same little snowflake she sees in the mirror at age 22. She thinks she will still be a prize and some "lucky" beta gets to spend the rest of his life (and money) with her bucket vagina, turned out mentality and botoxed face.

She thinks she will "love" him and stay with him "forever" (vomits in mouth), even though her mind is no longer capable of pair bonding. More like she will latch onto him, give him starfish sex, mentally castrate him, then divorce rape him. They will both be unhappy for a decade and they will have two kids who go on to repeat the cycle. Thanks feminism!!

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 70 points71 points  (73 children)

Female websites are full of these sort of "essays". She probably read a similar post on Jezebel or Askwomen and then parroted it all over Facebook, no doubt to many likes from women and manginas alike.

Yeah these public calls at appeasing the betas into accepting the modern woman flaws appear all so common & predictable after taking the red pill. An aquaintance of mine just posted a link to an article titled "what it means to love a girl who is used to be on her own" which predictably lists a long series of red flags and deal breakers that men are supposed to accept and forgive.

[–][deleted] 58 points59 points  (59 children)

Rollo identified this disturbing trend first. Unbridled hypergamy, first they expect society to accept it, next they will expect people to celebrate it. It is like a brainwashed mass mind hamster. Guys are supposed to accept the fact their new wife is experienced and "got it out of her system" so now she can truly accept his "nice guy" persona and "settle down". Apparently society needs to bend around what is optimum for a woman and stop all the slut shaming.

[–]Returnofthemack3 52 points53 points  (56 children)

it's really sad that people truly think that being a 'slut' has no lasting, negative repercussions. The idea of 'cant make a ho into a housewife' used to be common knowledge, now it's heavily disputed and considered misogyny. I dunno, just blows my mind how well the feminists have won the cultural war

[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 30 points31 points  (52 children)

They won the battle... and they had to, women outnumber men at the polls and the laws were adjusted to favor them... but they will lose the war.

There's only two end states to this game: either they corrupt from within as more and more men withdraw from the system until it collapses or they are eventually invaded and out-breed by a fundamentalist society.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 37 points38 points  (17 children)

The war is over, we lost it a generation ago.

Enjoy the decline, in whatever manner you deem appropriate

[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 12 points13 points  (2 children)

The war is over, we lost it a generation ago.

Our society has lost the war, yes.

But women will lose the war as well. This will not have a happy ending.

Enjoy the decline, in whatever manner you deem appropriate

Enjoy the decline; prepare for the bottom.

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 8 points9 points  (1 child)

When a tribe dies the women join the stronger tribe.

Look at the swedish top ministers walking into a meeting wearing hijabs last week.

Theyve henpecked their men into pulp, want them to die out, and have found stronger men to import and obey.

[–]J_AsapGem 4 points5 points  (0 children)

holyyy this is so true wth, i never thought i would witness what you said in today society, take a look at the runaway models aswell they are modeling in hijabs. it's crazy man. enjoy the decline anything you see fit i guess.

[–]ArkAngelEV 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Agreed. The only thing that would change the current state of affairs would be for a total and complete social upheavel. Enjoy the decline, don't fall for the dead cat bounce.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Some guys think vasigel is the one. I'm not sure it is. It would imply we are equal, and have the same uphevals...

For men, something more like a famine, or mass male extinction is all I could see, and doubting that would happen

[–]ArkAngelEV 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Yes. Or a rapid change of demographics

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I would argue both sides lost the war a generation ago, it's just that one side (men) started feeling the effects before that of the other side (women).

It seems logical that the decline for men will eventually plateau but the steep drop for women in culture and society hasn't been yet realized. It will be a rude awakening when it finally cracks them across the head like an apple falling from the Empire State Building.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]raging_buddha 1 point2 points  (5 children)

The war has been won, but we can still do something about it. TRP is the kind of platform where we can inform each other and turn around mainstream mentalities. We just have to do this right and keep going instead of throwing to towel and waiting to hit rock bottom. We can all exercise power over the situation by behaving as redpillers with our women. Eventually, when the time is right and we're ready, we'll have to step in publicly and turn things around. We need to be there for more red pills to be swallowed and see our ranks fatten up until it becomes mainstream. Every conflict in history has seen it's winners lose and declince at some point and vice versa. Nothing lasts forever...

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Corey Worthington. The alpha male is nihilism essentially.

Enjoy the decline. Swap notes with your fellow man, leave behind childish grandiose visions

[–]raging_buddha 0 points1 point  (3 children)

leave behind childish grandiose visions

Strong men are alpha males, and alpha males take responsibility. Nihilism is weak and socially irresponsible. If one enjoys the decline, he turns into a parasite. Feminism happened because some angry women fought for it and the following generations didnt stop when they finally attained equality. The second are just angry, spoiled brats but they're still fighting, whatever theyre insane or not. What we lost is the BS test that is feminism and passive men who don't do anything about it need to grow a backbone.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Take responsibility for your tribe. a tribe of 1 is still a tribe. Anger and entitlement are childrens emotions. A masculine man lets them go, and plows his own path. Right now, your best option involves taking care of #1, and if others add to that, you can allow them into your tribe, at which point you can take their responsability. You'll have to navigate a legal landscape that is designed to punish you for this, so it's not an easy thing to do.

It's more than feminism. I refuse to give whiney college women the pleasure of causing the crisis of masculinity. If you wanted to 'man up' how exactly would you do that? Be a better plow horse? Have a family, work harder, raise more kids?

Right now, men don't even have themselves as the center point of their lives. Grow a backbone, man up? Those aren't aspirational terms, they are shaming words, used to have men better serve womens interests.

TLDR; Fuck you.

[–]andhakanoon 7 points8 points  (33 children)

or they are eventually invaded and out-bred by a fundamentalist society

You have just explained why feminists love the staunch patriarchal and misogynistic (actually misogynistic) philosophy that is Islam.

[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 25 points26 points  (32 children)

You have just explained why feminists love the staunch patriarchal and misogynistic (actually misogynistic) philosophy that is Islam.

Oh, that's even simpler:

Feminism is not a movement, it's a shit test to see if men have a backbone.

Islamic men have a backbone.

[–]andhakanoon 9 points10 points  (17 children)

I'd say they take it to the other extreme. I want men to have a backbone but I don't want women to undergo genital mutilation and be treated as second class citizens either.

But that's a whole different debate.

[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 2 points3 points  (15 children)

Men and women are not equal. If you try to make men and women equal, you end up where we are now. If you afford women the same legal rights you afford men, you end up where we are now.

But I agree with you on the whole female circumcision bit. Not a fan of that, nor is it required to sustain society.

[–]andhakanoon 12 points13 points  (11 children)

If you afford women the same legal rights you afford men, you end up where we are now.

This is not true. The fucked up situation we are at today is here because law favours women over men, instead of treating them as equal. This is at the core of most of the red pill philosophy posts I see here: always be careful what you do because legally the odds are stacked against you. It IS possible for men and women to be treated equally before the law and a healthy, sustainable society to exist at the same time. As long as we guarantee equality before the law, but recognise the distinctions in other cases, a proper system can be devised.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Meh if majority of american females are ok with male circumcision(all mammals have a foreskin.The analogue of the male penile foreskin is the female clitoral hood), then I'm kinda "meh, no fucks given" when the increasing muslim demographic will try to normalize female circumcision.

Identity politics has passed the tipping point in the angloshpere.

[–]Charrington84 6 points7 points  (12 children)

Ahh and this is the little white elephant in the room here that no one really wants to discuss.

What if Islam,and the society it promotes, is really the most conducive instrument towards a healthy, productive society? One that doesn't kill its babies, tell women that they are biologically the same as men and can act as such, and advocate the dissolution of the nuclear family- the foundation of civilization?

What if we in the West are on the losing side of this war, and not just the losing side but the wrong side?

Food for thought! ;)

[–]raging_buddha 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Thinking about this pretty often when I hear talks about the flood of refugees in the west on the radio. It almost seems like the powers that are willingly trying to fuck up society. It's a VERY sensible subject indeed, can't really talk about this openly with just anyone and I'm surprised you didnt get downvoted to hell for saying that.

Bringing religion back into societies decision making process would definitely be a change for the worse but nobody informed enough can argue that the family unit has been disintegrating for a while now as the tension between sexes caused by feminism are getting stronger, and it doesn't look like it's going to get better soon. I'm Canadian and we are outclassed by immigrant growth rates, but their total population barely represent a fraction of the caucasian population, so we're not going to be outbred tomorrow. The demographic growth statistics by ethnic origin for my province tell us what most people already know: some cultures have family on the top of their list. From 2006 to 2011: Caucasians - 1%, Afriacans: 29.5%; Arabic - a whopping 52.5%; Latin - 30%

You'll also notice these are cultures were men play the dominant role. IMO, the old school family model does that, men work hard while women stay at home raising children. It may be rigid and unfair if you're a woman who's not into brats and want a career, but it works as far has families and demographic growth are concerned. Family units are the basic building blocks of society. When they crumble, their associated culture, equilibrium, identity and economy crumbles too. Theses numbers are roughly the same all around North America, at least with the low caucasian growth rate... What do tey tell us? That the classic 20th north american culture is clearly in decline, like the multiethnic free Roman civilization. The fact that history repeats itself, appears more clearly when you know that ancient Romans also had their feminists. Objectively, all sexism and racism put aside, we can say that these phenomenons are directly responsible for the chaos, disorganization and the climate of hate we live in today.

[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I don't want religion to come back into our decision making process as a society

I have come to the conclusion that religion is necessary for a long term successful society.

Successful societies have a surplus of survival resources. This causes stupidity to not be as harshly punished and allows beliefs which don't work well to rise: namely the beliefs in liberalism and equality (we're all equal, what we do doesn't matter!).

Secularism changes peoples decision makings from religious to individual. People become less concerned with the whole and more concerned with themselves. Not only does religion change the decision affect timeline from ones life to include one's afterlife, religion also works as "natural law for dummies" and keeps the masses behaving in ways which benefit society.

A secular struggling society won't have the excess resources to allow stupidity to not be punished. A religious successful society will stay in order and strong due to the influences of religion on the society. but when you get a secular successful society, stupidity is no longer punished and religion is not there to keep the masses in line advancing society: this leads to what we have today.

One thing's for sure is that we are definitely getting outbred by islamic immigrants. I have 3 of thoses families in my block with an average of 4 children each.

Democracy + Multiculturalism leads to 5th generation warfare (warfare by wombs). Womb warfare is why Palestine is on the map. It's why Germany will be majority Muslim by 2050.

[–]Charrington84 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Exactly. I'm not at all arguing that Islam is the one true religion etc.

Like Demonspawn says, religion, or some sort of organization that seeks to reign in human behavior for that greater good, is necessary for civilization.

Sure this idea isn't popular here because most guys want to be the badass flipping off the man and riding his bike off into the sunset, but the reality is that if every man had that mentality, there would be no civilization.

Demonspawn does a good job detailing the consequences of shirking responsibility and societal decadence, I'll try to sum it up here:

Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times.

And perhaps current times are creating strong men right now, do you think they're coming from the west?

The fate of empires.

[–]FcknSafe 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Islamic society has been pretty much stagnant for the past 800 years, Christian Europe gave rise to the enlightenment and many of the basic freedoms we have today. Up until around 60 years ago western society was still fairly religious and and on an individual societal scale fairly harmonious relative to now. So one could easily argue that Christianity is the most conducive instrument to society.

[–]Charrington84 2 points3 points  (0 children)

See above.

The point is that an organization, a religion that attempts to curb (wo)man's baser nature, is conducive to healthy society. At this current point in time it could be Islam

I absolutely agree that Christianity has been instrumental in human advances.

[–]Donuteater780 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If that were true, Islam would have produced something of note before they had oil money.

[–]verify_account points points [recovered]

Religion is just another form of the blue pill made to control people and their natural urges. You make not like how evolution formed us, but that doesn't make it any less true.

I would say it can be argued that what's best for our species (survival of the fittest isn't always what's best for society)

[–]1by1is3 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There is no civilization without control.

I would say it can be argued that what's best for our species (survival of the fittest) isn't always what's best for society.

Humans were in 'survival of the fittest' mode for hundreds of thousands of years before civilization, yet the human specie could not rise above anything other than hunting or gathering berries and roots, barely surviving and the lowest subsistence level. Was that any better than civilization? Obvious answer is no.

[–]Compeliminator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

muslim based societys have been stagnant in technical innovation and progress since its wide scale implementation. a traditional society based on Christianity or jewish ideals has worked far better

[–]RedPillHanSolo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Feminism is not a movement, it's a shit test to see if men have a backbone.

Funny how it's so simple, isn't it? It's male-female relationship on a macro level. And western men got shamed into being betas.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It was a Pyrrhic victory, because now women can no longer see The Wall as they accelerate towards it.

[–]Seoul_Brother 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Diminishing returns of pair bonding, increased risk of HPV (cervical cancer in women, simple carrier status in men), future child bearing complications, etc, etc, etc.

And you wonder why slut shaming has been a thing forever...

TBH society before the current, rapid rate of societal decline had been looking out for their best interests lol.

[–]curiously_crazy 11 points12 points  (7 children)

"what it means to love a girl who is used to be on her own" which predictably lists a long series of red flags

I could be barking up the wrong tree and totally misinterpreted your comment but I think there's a middle ground to this. My last LTR had been single for ages and was independent, earned twice the amount of money as me, bought me shit I wanted and paid for most of the work I wanted to do to the Jeep. Sex was great and she was in no way clingy.. she did mention she wanted to move in with me several times, and each time I said no there was no dramas she'd basically just throw it off as an 'oh well maybe next time' type thing. The only reason I broke it off was because I got transfered interstate for work and long distance relationships are shit, and I'll admit it, it was actually harder to do than I thought. We're still great friends and chat on the phone regularly.

My personal experience is that it's the women who have been in and out of heaps of relationships that are the crazies.

Just my two cents.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Ok confusion here because of my choice of words. My bad.

I didn't mean to say that girls "who used to be on her own" are bad prospects because of that specific feature. I only meant that an article that says "what it means to love a girl who X" is a predictable essay on all the common flaws of girls (whether they did X or not) but that somehow must be forgiven by men in the name of "love" (for example "She’s strong, maybe even too strong for you at first. But don't let this intimidate you.", which the redpill aware will correctly understand as "She's going to be an insufferable bitch to you. But you gotta forgive her.". See for yourself: http://archive.is/6HSxg

[–]atomsk413 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Remember, Not needing anyone wasn't her will but it was the only choice she had in her past experiences."

Still manages to finish with an air of unaccountability and plausible deniability. Red flags are supposed to be taken off their masts and tied into bows apparently...

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 6 points7 points  (0 children)

define how long the L is in TR?

Because if this is a timepsan of less than the honeymoon phase...

[–]Ambiguousdude 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I'm going to segway into something I can't understand. I'd appreciate your opinion.

From a male side concerning LTRs. I find some guys are content/ at peace to be alone while others enter an almost depressed state. I have 2 male friends like this that long to be in a LTR when alone again but are not otherwise unstable or crazy people.

I know you were discussing the female side but seriously wtf this that about?^

[–]1theoctopuss 8 points9 points  (2 children)

It's evolution. It's survival.

Before the 1970's, hell even before the 50's, human relationship dynamics were what they are supposed to be. Man is head of house, etc. The basic nuclear family. It's how society was for thousands of years. Man want wives to reproduce, it's programmed into ur DNA. Find woman, have children, ensure survival for said children.

Unfortunately, this is now almost impossible due to feminism. Men around the world used to have unbreakable frame, but two world wars and the rise of modern liberalism has caused us to slip. As it is repeated around this sub, feminism is one giant shot test that men have collectively failed.

The women begged for what they thought they wanted. The men felt that things were getting better since the war, so they gave it to them. Little did those men know, women have no idea what the fuck they want. They push feminism because they think it will set them free and give them power, but they end up sad and unfulfilled and they don't know why. They just do what they've always done and blame men for everything, hoping we will fix it.

That's where Chad comes in. An alpha male can properly bring out the feminine side of women and leave them feeling fulfilled and happy. It's the natural way if things, so when a man doesn't get to brandish his masculinity he becomes confused and depressed.

[–]czatara 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You are mostly right, but I do not agree with your conclusion. Chad eventually becomes Al Bundy, and this is something no man should strive for. This is where self-development comes in: by all means develop your body and game in order to reach Chad-level, but also pay attention to your mind and spirit. Otherwise, you will end up trapped and miserable like Al.

[–]1theoctopuss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just to be clear, I don't condone marriage in its modern interpretation. I was just pointing out the fact that humans evolved to (mostly) be in monogamous relationships. Up until recently, it was either that or death for women.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (4 children)

I can't help but notice since I swallowed the red pill that on Facebook women are constantly pushing feminist propaganda and programming - essentially demanding that all men treat them like the perfect princess they believe themselves to be, without offering anything in return to make their significant other just as happy. Like it should be freely given just because they are a woman. What garbage, truly delusional. Women truly believe it's a one-way street and that they should be pampered and spoiled merely for having a vagina that they then use to weaponize sex.

[–]Docbear64 4 points5 points  (3 children)

It's the " Every woman is a queen" mentality that is pushed everywhere just being regurgitated by more women . We live in a society where Every woman wants their own Christian Grey but they all want to be able to be as tactless and graceless as Amy Schumer to keep him .

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

In reality most women I see posting like this have nothing of value to offer but their inherent bitchiness due to social programming, and then they wonder why men or "fuckboys" only use them for sex like its some grand mystery.

Modern women won't clean, won't cook, won't do the laundry - they expect their men to take care of all the traditional females roles, or at least expect him to "share the burden" with her while offering nothing to help share his own burden.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The way I see it is not so much women pushing some political agenda, but just women being women, aka asking for stuff because they feel the need for it (a man's love, a man's time, men's consideration, etc). Obviously they don't feel any need to express what they should do for others, and in all fairness nobody does.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was thinking more in terms of a cultural agenda rather than a political agenda. Just my opinion after scrolling through Facebook these days and really trying to understand the underlying message behind the Strong Independent Woman (TM) posts.

It's a one-sided argument, women are demanding men treat them like queens without bragging about how they treat their man like a king. Meanwhile, men are usually posting about how they treat their women like a queen without demanding anything in return. That's essentially the dichotomy I've observed.

I see your point though, women are driven largely by their emotions, which are inherently selfish just by their very nature. In that regard it can be easily explained by the need to feel those things or express their desire to help others.

[–]melb22 19 points20 points  (3 children)

And after the divorce rape, the ex wife will hamster herself into the belief that "we are still a family, nothing has changed" whilst shacking up with a damaged/bad boy type on her ex-husband's dime. She still wants to think she can have both things.

[–]neveragoodtime 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I wonder if she's self aware enough to know "be with you forever" really means lifetime alimony, child support, and genetically tied to your kids while screwing other guys. Sounds great for the nice guy, doesn't it?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You are absolutely spot on with this comment. She will also feel she was "entitled" to be happy and gaslight the beta when she leaves.

[–]crimsonkodiak 12 points13 points  (4 children)

One day in this little princess' imaginary world she will hand over the last vestiges of her Chad ravaged, post wall, soul destroyed self to her beta "soul mate". She thinks that she will be the same little snowflake she sees in the mirror at age 22. She thinks she will still be a prize and some "lucky" beta gets to spend the rest of his life (and money) with her bucket vagina, turned out mentality and botoxed face.

Agreed, though the more likely scenario is that she waits until she's mid-30s to start trying to find a beta to lock down and by that point her looks have passed her by, so she becomes another one of these late 30s/early 40s women cruising on bumble and talking to their dog at night about how there just aren't any good men out there.

[–]Docbear64 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The older I get the less sense these women make . I'm about to be 27 an while I'm nowhere close to getting married I have had to begin making a few serious considerations about how I picture my next 10 years or so . Still not ready to say know what I want but I have a better idea of what i'm looking for each passing day and year .

How does a Woman get to 35 and 40 without having given serious consideration to her future ?

[–]crimsonkodiak 8 points9 points  (1 child)

How does a Woman get to 35 and 40 without having given serious consideration to her future ?

You're assuming they're capable of doing so. I was out on Sunday with someone who was texting with her pregnant 39 year old friend. Said 39 year old friend had been working tinder for a couple years looking for a husband without success. She decided the way to up her SMV was to get in vitro and have a kid on her own. I sh** you not.

[–]Docbear64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

...well that puts the nail in that coffin I'd say ....

[–]LiteSoul 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know why or how, but they don't really think (seriously) about their future, even when reaching or after the wall (that's been my experience)

[–]Frenetic_Zetetic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this analysis. While I'm sure a woman did write the post, it's contrived as hell and reeks of "LOL, you're nearing the wall, darling; sit down" for me.

The information is accurate but it's delivered in a way that makes me slightly skeptical that this wasn't solely for likes/social media approval as you said,

[–]Derrun 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you /u/88Will88 for highlighting this last paragraph and so eloquently putting into words what I couldn't express myself.

[–]Bury_She points points [recovered]

"Even though her mind is no longer capable of pair bonding"

I wonder if there's any data to support this, that younger marriages are rated with higher quality and longevity? Wouldn't be surprised.

[–]Dragon_Garoo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not sure about the longevity, but the more partners a woman has, the less likely a marriage will last/succeed. 1 partner is optimal, with the numbers aroud 80% success. 2 partners is the worst, probably because they are hamstering about 'the one that got away' and want to try 'more to see what's out there'. 40% of those fail. Then it gets even worse, for a woman with 16-20 partners the marriage has only about a 20% success rate. I think it's simply because they're in hypergamy mode: they will always be thinking "I can do better" because the ability to bed lots of men makes them think their SMV is higher than it is. Lots of guys will 'screw lower' but the 'good ones' aren't going to marry a huge slut. It's instinctual. You just know there's a possibility that your genetic rights and contribution won't be respected. https://family-studies.org/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-sex-and-marital-stability/

[–]RedDeadCred 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, on mobile so not gonna link but there's a big one thrown about that shows virgins have an 80% chance of still being married and reporting a happy marriage after 5 or 10 years, and women with partner counts increases up to a count of 16, whereally the chance of being divorced or reporting an unhappy marriage is 80+%

[–]Walkebe 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I wouldn't hold out any hope that in all or probably most cases, that there will be some cosmic justice meted out on woman such as this. Many of them will successfully ride the CC even into their thirties and, "when the time is right" settle down and be provided for by a provider type, have children, and have a wonderful, happy life. I have seen just as many such women succeed at the hypergamy game, then I have the pharmed out, spinster, post wall, cat lady type.

[–]czatara 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are right if you just look at the snapshot, but if you stay around you will see that the successful story never ends well. Damaged women lose their ability to pair bond and will eventually fuck up, often bringing down her beta husband and children. Common fuck ups include cheating, alcoholism, drug abuse, getting extremely fat, extreme nagging, etc.

[–]Returnofthemack3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah it's beyond sad. My only hope is that men are truly waking up in serious numbers, but I won't hold my breath. It would appear things ARE changing, but it remains to be seen just how much.

[–]ArkAngelEV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if could trick her mind to pair bond, her body will recoil, this is instinctual. Her body has been ravaged by dicks and time and would NEVER bond with a beta. EVER

[–]imurhckleberry 275 points276 points  (41 children)

If this is truly written by a female then she is one in a million. I have never met a woman this self aware.

[–]3whatsthisgarg 106 points107 points  (24 children)

Sounds like she ripped it off from older women, like Sheryl Sandberg or Tracy Clark-Flory. They have published this exact advice. The difference was theirs was coming from a bitter older woman and it had more than a touch of revenge in it. Ironic, isn't it? The need for revenge against the alphas who wouldn't commit. Just fucking cruel.

[–]potentialz[S] 46 points47 points  (16 children)

Of course I won't know for sure, but I'm positive this is her own opinion. I've studied with her in the past and she's a smart kid going to Medical School this year.

I read some TRP material a whileeee back, but can't remember the source. The basic idea is that every girl understands TRP sexual strategies are true and are part of the "unspoken club". No one can talk about the "unspoken club." However, only a select guys can join this club and once you're in it, everyone in the club knows you're part of it.

I really wish I could remember the source. I might've read it on Rollo Tomassi's blog or on 4chan...

[–]3whatsthisgarg 46 points47 points  (11 children)

A lot of guys on here say "all girls are red pill" meaning they OPERATE under red pill concepts, but I'm sure they don't know it consciously.

The ENTIRE WORLD was red pilled before about 50 years ago. The blue pill indoctrination since really only worked on males, and on females only on a conscious level. Which is why we say don't listen to what they say, but watch what they do.

In the last 3 years, I have elicited just about every single red pill truth out of my wife through the most gentle prodding. She is unaware of it, but it guides her actions.

[–]blackedoutfast 21 points22 points  (3 children)

yeah they understand all of this stuff, but they avoid talking about it in most situations. they don't like to talk about it around other girls because it goes against the socially acceptable SJW/bluepill/feminist party line and therefore could be used against them as part of the competition that is a constant part of female-female social relationships. they also don't like to talk about it around bluepilled betas and guys stuck in the friendzone because it could lead to an accidental redpilling.

but if they see you as a non-judgmental genuine alpha male they will definitely acknowledge the truth of most of the concepts found on the TRP sidebar. they might not use the same terminology but they will all understand exactly what you mean if you start talking about the differences between sexy fun alpha fucks or nice guy beta bucks. this same situation is when they will freely admit all the dirty details of their sexual history. most of the time it's a relief being able to talk about that kind of stuff without worrying about the repurcussions.

another good example of this was when the trump pussy grabbing tape got leaked last year. the people who were making the biggest deal and acting so shocked and outraged were the bluepill beta white knights wanting to score brownie points and the typical fat blue haired sjw females. but the vast majority of normal, attractive girls didn't make a big deal about it because they know it's true.

[–]Ambiguousdude 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Any girl that's coloured their hair I imagine is displaying a warning sign like spots on a lady bug or brightly coloured frogs. Why do the unhinged ones color their hair?

[–]NibblyPig 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feminine markers. When you look like a bin bag full of mayo you can only look cute and girly by exaggerating feminine markers, pink hair, dresses, makeup, flowers in the hair, going 'tee hee' a lot etc.

[–]ArkAngelEV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They don't talk about it because there isn't anything to talk about... they know. It is OBVIOUS and it's been obvious for many, many years for them. It's like trying to talk about offsides with a football fan of 30 years... it's just so simple, you don't even want to waste a word talking about it because it's been understood ad nauseam.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 10 points11 points  (0 children)

A lot of guys on here say "all girls are red pill" meaning they OPERATE under red pill concepts, but I'm sure they don't know it consciously.

Then they aren't "red pill".

The reason for the red pill metaphor is that it describes the thing that wakes you up to the truth. The truth being that of natural sexual dynamics (women's dual sexual strategy, hypergamy, solipsism, feelz over realz, men's variety over quality, etc.) which are built in our biology and eternal (at least until we evolve into something else than homo sapiens). Everybody "operate" under these truths. Men & women. Alphas and betas. Teenagers and adults. Now it's a matter of whether you realize it or not. And more specifically, if you didn't know it previously and then found something that made you realize it, i.e. the manosphere, aka "the red pill".

[–]RedDeadCred 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Women definitely got hit with the bluepill, that's why they work for careers and don't know how to make a high value man commit.

[–]LiteSoul 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting theory, got me thinking

[–]chelseafc18 points points [recovered]

what exactly changed 50 years ago?

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Hormonal birth control and the social upheavals surrounding it.

[–]Dragon_Garoo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Look at this chart: Correlation is not always causation, but man, this is telling.. https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/05/29/the-pill-and-divorce-the-real-connection/

[–]asktrpthrow123 17 points18 points  (1 child)

It's from sosuave. Search 'Secret Society Sosuave' on google and you should find it. Tyler Durden said it.

[–]EatmyShorts59 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I knew I read that before. Couldn't find it.

Thanks for posting this !!

[–]hawkeaglejesus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The basic idea is that every girl understands TRP sexual strategies are true and are part of the "unspoken club". No one can talk about the "unspoken club." However, only a select guys can join this club and once you're in it, everyone in the club knows you're part of it.

RSD Secret Society

[–]RPthrowaway_007 points points [recovered]

Link to the Sandberg quote?

[–]3whatsthisgarg 16 points17 points  (5 children)

We just had this conversation last week.

Anyway, just google Sheryl Sandberg fuck the bad boys

Rollo has a blog entry about it as well.

Tracy Clark-Flory actually did this very thing: had a lot of "bad sex" (bad for her because maybe she didn't know what she was doing) then got old and married a beta, then wrote about it (Salon or something). And she did have interactions with "red pillers."

At this point in my life, I can laugh about it, but for you young guys, I am sad. THIS CURRENT YOUNGER GENERATION IS FUCKED, and not in a good way.

[–]alexclarkbarry 8 points9 points  (0 children)

11% of male CHILDREN will lose the game of ADHD roulette this year...

[–]RPthrowaway_007 points points [recovered]

Sorry bro, I don't see every single post on here. Mainly because there are so many shitposts lately.

[–]3whatsthisgarg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I'm saying it's remarkable that this came up again, from a totally different source. Check it out, it might make you laugh, it might make you angry.

[–]BigGreezy270 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Talk about some RP truth straight from the horse's mouth.

[–]3whatsthisgarg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And LOL at all the guys in this thread saying this wasn't written by a female. Maybe it's time to make a new post about her article.

What a complete cunt she is.

[–]1Shyrk 29 points30 points  (2 children)

If this is truly written by a female then she is one in a million. I have never met a woman this self aware.

Really? Women are this honest with me all the time.

Create a non-judgemental frame, make sure they know they have nothing to lose, and these truths just come pouring out.

[–]Sderts23 0 points1 point  (1 child)

what do you mean by nothing to lose?

[–]1Shyrk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you make it obvious that you're not going to judge women for being transparent about subjects most men would cringe at, it makes it much easier for them to open up to you. The RP truths come pouring out.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

She might be one in a million in terms of self awareness... But she's still just like every other girl out there. She said it herself.

[–]harsha_hs 9 points10 points  (2 children)

All women are this self aware. But this very lady has the guts to make it public, and she has the guts because the 'nice' guys are so much nice that, even after she posts this shit on facebook and has 5 chad's cum on her face, these 'nice' guys line up to marry her.

[–]failatsomething 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See: women's march. Not all women are this self aware.

[–]cuntrolbot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Given the visceral response of all but the hardest OG red pillers to this kind of "revelation" I suspect not a single nice guy is cheering this kind of thing. Things are bad but they aren't that bad.

[–]cuntrolbot 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Young girls ride the CC hoping that Chad will commit to them. They give away sex in hopes of commitment, like the betas give away commitment in hopes for sex. I smell a troll. No girl is daydreaming about settling for some BB after using up her cooter on the CC.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

There's no way it was written by an 18 year old girl. The tone/structure is incredibly masculine and reads very much the same as OPs replies ITT.

The amount of anger phase fiction on here is getting out of hand. It's like a form of porn for anger phase guys, it's pathetic.

[–]trilliam_clinton 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Idk every one of my female friends is this self aware around me.

One of them just started dating a "nice guy" and said herself that she only sees it lasting a month before she's back to dating "fuck boys".

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First women spit RP truths all the time. Ironically these are voiced subconsciously so to the untrained ear, they're easy to miss. Nearly all women are self-aware.

Second, this isn't self-awareness. It's delusion wrapped up in self-awareness. Take a little time to scrutinize it, and it'll become evident.

Everything this girl has said has come from a place of fantasy. Unfortunately for her, we can read between the lines.

[–]VanityKings 51 points52 points  (8 children)

A reminder why you must lift and lift hard gents.
Millions of years of evolution had to happen to bring you here and now into this world, don't disgrace your genetics by letting some worthless whores use you for their purposes

[–]slay_it_forward 23 points24 points  (7 children)

Being a jacked loser isn't much different from an average build loser.

[–]imn0tg00d 33 points34 points  (0 children)

You know, you're almost right.

[–]VanityKings 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Getting jacked requires patience, time, and discipline.
All of these tenets are essential for men, particularly so when you're dealing with today's women.
Lifting can be life changing and to pretend otherwise is lazy pessimism

[–]slay_it_forward 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'm offering a different perspective. It's easy on trp to get sucked into the dogma and stop thinking outside this bubble. Lift bro! Being healthy is important. Being super jacked really isn't. Most of the best guys I've known with women never lifted, but I know lots of gym rats that never get laid.

[–]theONE843663 9 points10 points  (3 children)

If you are jacked, you can't be a loser unless you've got mental disabilities like Jason Genova. Or you're a hobo that lives in the gym.

[–]slay_it_forward 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not true. Thats what good looking loser's website was all about.

[–]Docbear64 39 points40 points  (3 children)

My favorite part is that it starts off condemning nice guys for not being cool and developing like the " bad boys" and being conceited in the pridefulness towards being " nice" . Then slowly turns into a " BUT WAIT FAIR HERO YOUR DAY WILL COME!" statement that rewards the mentality she just shat on .

" You guys are unattractive losers right now , however over the years as you wipe my tears away , make me feel special , and give me all the comfort and attention a girl could want ( while I give my sexual and intimate attention to a man who thinks about me a tenth as much as you do ) one day I will come to be wiser, more mature, and finally understand that you were the hero I needed all along and we'll make each other happy forever and ever ( until Steven starts answering my calls again)" .

[–]theONE843663 15 points16 points  (2 children)

What I don't get is why betas ignore this. They must know on an intrinsic level that this is messed up. I mean shit... I discovered red pill by myself when I was 17 cuz all this modern slut culture and nice guy shit didn't make sense to me at all. But then again, I come from a patriarchal background.

[–]Docbear64 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That's such a strong foundation to have in your life you may not even know . I grew up without my dad and this sub helped me reconnect with him and be man - to - man with him about his absence in my life . We were at the store just the other day and he was telling me how an ex-wife was abusive and manipulative and how as I get older and gain experience I will begin to understand when a woman is using me .

This advice is a few years too late thanks to this sub and some life experience but growing in a household full of women that preached " Women are wonderful" when I was younger it would have been AMAZING to hear and definitely changed my perception of a lot of things.

I remember at our first " honest" dinner he dropped a lot of redpill knowledge and it blew my mind . This 50 + year old man was saying exactly what I've read on this sub over a year .

So in short the betas just don't even know a games being played . They do what they're " supposed to " and then hope to get what they're told to hope for a dried up , less pretty , "experienced " woman who will never love or lust over him the way she did for her exes.

edit : Changed to "exes" from "ex" because she's slobbered over and been infatuated with more than one mans cock before her betabux I'm sure.

[–]theONE843663 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol maybe the betas don't know that they can bag 20 year olds at 40 and still be married to a good looking 32 year old woman? Sigh... wonder wtf went wrong with men.

[–]razgrim 73 points74 points  (2 children)

Cool, thanks for that gem, doesn't she know its every nice guys dream to sit back and masturbate for a decade until they can marry a dried out used up wrinkling bitch

[–]Derrun 33 points34 points  (1 child)

Hahaha its so unbelievably condescending: "Just be patient and wait your turn like a good beta and when no chad wants us anymore we'll begrudgingly settle for you... (and then quickly tire of you and resent you)"

I'm so happy that I've dispelled the notion of fairytale endings, marriage and female loyality. I can't imagine going through life with the same mindset I had a year ago.

[–]askmrcia 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yup my single mom pounded that into my head. Just wait and a nice girl will come for you. I'm so glad I woke up. Had I continued listening to her I'm sure I'd be a Virgin still and most likely committed suicide by now.

I see guys who grew up in a church with their single mom's. Huge betas and have no idea how much damage is being caused to them.

[–]Utterberetacht 20 points21 points  (1 child)

someday you guys might become more than just a guy friend to a girl.

I.e. when her looks start taking a nosedive, the tingle-inducing jerks no longer want her, so she goes for Plan B: the betabucks Nice GuyTM.

[–]1skittles_man 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Don't worry, nice guys. I know she friend zoned you now, but in about 10 years you can marry her and live happily ever after. That is until you find the video of her getting a train run on her by the division 3 college football team.

[–]askmrcia 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lmfao!!! Division three football team?? Lol

I laughed so hard at this comment because it's so true. I went to school for football and there were three girls that I knew of that was getting banged by both the football team and basketball team. Yes both.

There obviously more that slept around, but the three girls I knew had trains ran on them. One girl from the volleyball team got kicked out of school for it because it spread all over twitter.

All three of those girls are married. Well two is I think. The other has a kid. I don't think people realize how true your comment is.

But a lot of girls that slept around got married to guys who look completely different than the type they slept with.

One more example. A girl I worked at in a grocery store was a known slut. I was going to go talk to her but my buddy told me about all the nasty shit she did and told me she isn't even worth a ons because of all the diseases she has. Other people in the store knew about it too. Two years later she married a cop. The guy looked completely clueless. Bought her flowers and took her on vacation.

[–]unpluggedoasis 32 points33 points  (1 child)

i read that and just lol I know I made the right choice when I went red-pill.

[–]logicalthinker1 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Once you know truth, it's not really a choice anymore.

[–]circlhat 7 points8 points  (1 child)

, it is because you are shy, insecure, and somewhat conceited. You think you are so “nice”, the best person a girl could ask for if we gave you guys a chance. How can we give you a chance if you are hiding behind that “I am nice” persona. Just be yourself.

Except there are two things missing from this statement, Nice guys get girls, and they get used and abused, Sadly they don't stop being Nice in a relationship and it ends horribly.

But don't expect women to ever take responsibility, but rather define who you are based on their best interests.

Nice guys are too passive, and this is because they been taught,

[–]Ganaria_Gente 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"But don't expect women to ever take responsibility, but rather define who you are based on their best interests."

Yep which is why all these fake rape claims are in vogue

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The amount of delusion (and possibly denial) is incredible.

There are sprinkles of RP truth in here, but it is buried under what seems to be a genuine earnestness to get a beta after she is done with the "bad boys," as she puts it.

She thinks that someone will actually want her after she hits the wall and her time with the Chads are done. I'm sure there will be beta bucks somewhere who will take her, but no one that gives her the tingles will come anywhere near her.

This is the first step towards self-destruction and it's fantastic that it's recorded down.

[–]TehJimmyy 7 points8 points  (0 children)

one day we might free you from the the friendzone and call you not someone who is a more than a friend, but a soul mate, the best friend a girl could ever call hers forever."

like i give a fuck what she thinks of me

Oh wait

[–]johnyann 7 points8 points  (7 children)

It's remarkable how little women want to actually ever emotionally connect with men.

Every women I've ever slept with did so before knowing anything substantial about me. They experienced my behavior in the present, and that was enough for them. Hell, they barely tell me anything about themselves as well.

Every women I've gone into detail about my past history with, the attraction leaves instantly. And my history isn't bad or weird in any way.

It's a strange phenomenon. And it sucks because I feel like I've been conditioned my entire life to want that kind of emotional closeness to go with the physical. Can it even exist? Even after reading a bunch of stuff here, it's still something I want.

[–]NibblyPig 1 point2 points  (3 children)

How do you have a date without talking about personal stuff?

[–]shango130 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You have to treat a date like a job interview only share relevant information.

[–]NibblyPig 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Don't you just come across as boring? You're gonna be fielding questions like what are your hobbies, do you have brothers and sisters, what do you do in your spare time, what do you do at work, where do you want to go on holiday etc. You don't want to come off as boring surely?

[–]shango130 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its only boring if you make it boring. In essence going on a date is a business transaction and its a buyers market, get her excited about being on a date with you without revealing too much. They don't really care about you( even when they say they do) they only care about how you make THEM feel.

[–]doncucker89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here. Once I get into my past and attempt to share some of my experiences, it seems to kill the attraction.

[–]shango130 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They just don't care or even know how to care, you're just a character in their life drama. And don't let them bait you into sharing your feelings either its all shit testes to gauge your emotional strength. If you're in a funk and need to connect do that with your mom or some other males in your support system.

[–]Stythe 6 points7 points  (1 child)

She's not self-aware really. This is the same shit men have been spoofed for ages. Shes just repeating the lines. Maybe her beta was getting jealous and needed reassurance that he wasn't being used or something do she figured a Facebook post was a safe, simple way to reassure him while not actually putting any real effort in. He'll, it probably made her feel better about her shitty choices.

It's funny that when you're a young man with no experience with women, the idea that women will "mature" and see how good you are sounds great. It tells you you don't have to change or improve or do anything other than exist to get a woman... down the road. Without any added thought of your own applied to the logic, its a good deal. But then when you apply some thought to that mindset you get a list of issues a mile long. -Shes had so much dick she could be an undiscovered pornstar -She's more experienced sexually so you might not register -She's closer to being useless for bearing children -She's got a job that takes her focus away from family - Shes developed a bitter, arrogant streak due to being used - Relationships are simply a hobby - She had all this fun while you had to work - She used you until she decided you were the best (this is the one that gets me every time. It's so obviously cognitive dissonance.)

The list goes on an extends forever. There's no shortage of ways to apply these thoughts and come up with how you're getting a bad deal. But again, that's not the point. The point is to reassure you that "Dont worry, your time will come."

Which can be true, as long as you make it happen and not just sit and wait.

[–]Trooper_1868 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was that nice guy. I literally said those words "I will probably get married when I'm 27 when a girl is looking to settle down" I feel like slapping my younger self every day.

[–]Superspathi 25 points26 points  (9 children)

Seems very true, and it really brings out the misogyny in me. I mean, what a shallow worthless cunt. Why would I want to act all alpha in order to "score" with one of these shallow bitches? I guess some men enjoy the conquest of fucking worthless shallow and disloyal whores, but I find that not appealing in the slightest.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

You're becoming (not acting) "alpha" for your own sake and not because it's what women are attracted to. If you feel like you hate women or that you need to "act" a certain way to get women, you aren't grasping the real message of TRP.

Granted, many men who successfully apply TRP in their lives eventually reach a point where they do have some degree of animosity towards women but also towards the way the entire world works, generally. If you come to realize everything you have been told as a child was a lie and that in reality the world actually operates completely differently, and if you learn that sex and love and relationships are all far less complex and fascinating than you thought they were when you were a child, it's understandable that you may start to view the world in contempt. But this is why TRP pushes Stoicism; you will need to be able to not take the world so seriously if you want to remain happy and content and avoid depression and anger.

[–]Swallowed_the_pill 15 points16 points  (3 children)

If you think about it we are just as shallow. You would rather fuck a young woman with nice tits, a hot body and a pretty face who works at McDonald's than an older one with a Ph.D who is average looking.

Stop hating women for what is their true nature. It's like hating water for being wet because you originally thought water was dry.

[–]cheeseburgerhandy points points [recovered]

The ph.d so she can buy me stuff tbh

[–]Swallowed_the_pill 4 points5 points  (1 child)

So just like women use nice guys to get them services, be emotional tampoons or buy them gifts.

[–]Senior ContributorDemonspawn 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You don't act alpha because you want to score with women.

You become alpha because you have a life and want to live it in a direction you choose and will do so unapologetically.

Once you do so, women are attracted to that. But you don't do it for the women; you do it for you. Because if you do it for the women, you'll stop living unapologetically once you have one.

[–]Ganaria_Gente 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're not being misogynist. You're seeing the misandrist, gynocentric world for the first time.

[–]WhorehouseVet 12 points13 points  (0 children)

OP, who else liked this girl's FB post? I can bet it's mostly hot chicks who understand how the real world works a d is riding the CC. Fat uggos and White Knights are probably missing from that list.

[–]atraw 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Tingles in her pussy. That's how it should be called.

[–]ecosci 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Whats going to happen is that society will fish out all betas outta the pond with divorce laws child support scam plus vaginamony men will figure its not worth it anymore if you make 40k-75k a yr you can live well without these cunts dragging your life away plus it will have a negative impact on society because men dont spend much money on bs and just get by with whatever causing the the economy to sink i applaud feminism and the uncovering of female nature it brings so much awareness and warnings so let women show thier hands beta bux wont be around to save em let big daddy pay for the princess fuck ups.

[–]SkoomaIsaHellOfaDrug 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I have autism and 94% of that doesn't apply to me.

[–]bpg609 points points [recovered]

Of course subconsciously or consciously, she forgets to mention a crucial aspect. She will still get tingles from Chad while the "newly wed un-friendzoned beta" provides the "boring stuff."

I was reading Anthony Bourdain's autobiography and early on there's a scene where a wedding party comes to their restaurant, and the bride sneaks into the kitchen and fucks one of the tattooed, drug-dealing chefs, completely unbeknownst to her new husband and the rest of the party.

[–]shango130 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Did she have history with cook?

[–]bpg609 points points [recovered]

Nope. Cook was just a player.

[–]itsawomensworld 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Tldr don't be nice to women

[–]Swallowed_the_pill 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Being nice and being a nice guy is not the same. Being nice as some form of currency to expect sex or feelings in return is being a nice guy. Being nice because why not is something completely different. You can be an "asshole" and nice at the same time without being a nice guy.

[–]francisco_DANKonia 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's not about not being nice. It's about proving you are a valuable man. A valuable man is not nice all the time. He also isn't a dick all of the time.

Also, the woman wants to be valued by the valuable man. You have to be nice sometimes to make that work.

[–]Penguin327 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The entitlement is amazing

[–]Ricky469 points points [recovered]

Being older I only started looking reading reddit last year. I think I have a different perspective than some on here just because I think I am older than most on here, (50sM). I now know I'm pretty much a red pill, but obviously I cannot agree with everything TRP espouses. I am quite successful, I work hard, invested wisely, and earned multiple degrees. I own three houses, using two as investments. I have never been married but have had exclusive relationships. I never decided to get married because I did not want to give up the freedom to run my life as I see fit. I do love sex. I am not ashamed to have slept around for decades. I guess I have been the alpha fux, seeing former lovers get married and settle down, but actually I usually hope they are happy. I do not feel I missed anything. I do like kids and tend to spoil my friend's kids and grandkids and be the fun uncle who takes them to ball games buys presents etc. But I decided quite a while ago I do not want to be a father myself. I will say I do not see the war between the sexes as harshly as others here do, I have not really used women or felt used by them, of course I have had crazy and manipulative exes and I have done stupid things myself. But I also have exes I care about who are friends. I guess I am here to say being your own man and single is not pathetic, and I see myself as generally happy.

[–]TacoNinjaSkills 2 points3 points  (1 child)

How can we give you a chance if you are hiding behind that “I am nice” persona. Just be yourself.

Auuuuugh! Since by "being herself" guys throw themselves at her she automatically assumes that a guy is not being himself if women are not throwing themselves at him.

[–]Ignostic199 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know her, but I can see that that's absolutely not what she meant. Don't we all prefer people who are genuinely nicer than those who try to be nice simply in order to get laid?

[–]goldnhorde 2 points3 points  (0 children)

is it just me or is there something about the way "the nice guy" is approached that is implicit that "being nice" is all an act? that it is just some assumed role?

I guess that only speaks to the writers inability to calculate that people ... can be .. nice.

[–]GenghisKhanSpermShot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol, this sounds like a red piller trying to sound like an 18 year old female.

[–]segagaga 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The most ridiculius thing about this essay of hers, is she treats nice guys inconsistently.

On one hand she says nice guys are all pretending to be nice and are not being themselves, while on the other hand she says because you are nice she is not afraid of you, speaks her mind and bears her soul to the nice guy, while lying to her "cool" boyfriend.

So whats a man to do if he is genuinely nice then? Pretend to be nasty? Perhaps one should go around mugging a few people to appear "cool". Then she would be afraid of him, no? The logic fails most terribly.

This is all so ridiculous. Both pills can be wrong to a degree, especially if you take their extremes to the logical conclusion. If someone is being themselves and you are telling them "they should be themselves" a.k.a something they are not, that means you are the one who is in the wrong, no matter who is pretending to be what.

There is no functional difference between pretending to be nice and being nice, because in both cases courtesy is extended. By the same token, there is no difference between pretending to be nasty and being nasty, because harm is being done. Intent matters a lot, but action defines the moment.

It is your actions that count the most TRP, it doesn't matter what you or they say, it is your actions that count the most. Pay attention to the choices of people around you. Did they act nice? Then they are nice. Did they act abusive? Then they are abusive. Humans are complex and nuanced creatures, who can think both nice and nasty thoughts, and have the free-will to act on both at any time. Think of nice and nasty and cool as hashtags on a human, anyone can tag anyone as something, or as everything. It describes them but doesn't define them.

Turning your thoughts into deeds is half the battle won. Pretence of any kind, and the assumption of pretence, is not only failure of critical thought, but it extremely harmful on a mass social level.

[–]Lsegundo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

tldr; girl admits on facebook you can either be a bad boy and get the hot sex now or be a niceguy beta provider and get her used up mind/body in a decade when she is on a steep decline.

Are you going to choose to drive the sports car now or go for the rusting station wagon later on? Oh and the sports car now also costs less of your hard earned money.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It'll get better for guys soon. Generation Z is slated to be the most conservative generation since WWII. We've had several generations of women being raised by women like this and seeing the resulting batshit crazy, tatted, pierced, blue haired bitter, misandrist cat ladies. I know that my mother set a horrible example by refusing to be a wife and mother when she was with my very alpha father and partying and being a skank most of my childhood, and I managed to wake up in time to cut most ties to her and have a more healthy and positive relationship with my husband.

It's difficult for women who are redpilled because trying to talk about this stuff with other women causes a shitstorm of RRREEE and triggering and women can be absolutely vicious if you dare to criticize them or female influences in their lives.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TLDR: "I'm going to ride the CC like a whore until Chad won't fuck me anymore, then I'll settle down with the clueless idiot who's desperate for female attention."

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good story, Hansel. Very convincing that some actual existing woman wrote this. Except it has the exact same cadence, buzz words, and projection that's always seen here.

[–]Seoul_Brother 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is fucking gold. AF/BB written from a woman's perspective.

Summed up: "For all you thirsty betas out there, keep being beta and not realize how good it feels to fuck other women and live for yourself, and one day we'll come for your resources/provisions of comfort in exchange for dead bedrooms, more chores created by yours truly, and sexual frustration. Then, when I get tired of you or you catch me cheating, I'll attempt to legally screw you over by attempting to take everything youve built kthxbye."

[–]1ozaku7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like to think that the Alpha will keep aiming at the young range of women, between 18 and 25, and the beta providers will skim more in the older range of 25-35 where the women hit their wall, become uninteresting to Alphas. The aged woman has fewer choices and has to pick the best from the Betas.

To all the nice guys out there: one day we might free you from the the friendzone and call you not someone who is a more than a friend, but a soul mate, the best friend a girl could ever call hers forever."

You are desperate and already happy a woman has chosen you, betaboy. You will be hers forever not because you are so amazing, but because of the lack of anything better than you, which is all in the past and chasing alot younger pussy.

[–]godfatherchimp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This can't be real. It's too perfect.

She also forgot to mention that she will choose the nice guys after her pussy has been all used up by 15 chads

[–]GoodKingWenceslaus 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is why there are people in the world who hate women.

Personally I'm not too into the Red Pill for the sake of myself getting anywhere with the opposite sex, (not a MGTOW) but more because you guys have a pretty realistic understanding of human sex relations unlike the feminists in power. I generally try to be a "nice guy," not a beta, just not somebody too assertive about sex'n'shiet. It's always been so annoying to see "nice guys" get sidelined for people who are pricks and put "hoes before bros." I guess if I was a woman I'd think differently, but it seems young girls often pick more irresponsible, less deserving men on the objective level, then when they get older they want the judicious guys who never got anywhere to marry for money and stability. Of course this wouldn't be the case if sex relations were different.

[–]Trooper_1868 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started to make the distinction that you shouldn't be nice, you should be respectful where is needed.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So tldr. " I love the tingles, and don't worry-- for your patience you'll be rewarded with sloppy seconds. "

[–]CHeMo6242 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I met this girl recently and went on her timeline to get a sense of who she is.  

She reblogged it on FB in 2016

For the sake of being an asshole. Where is the screenshot or pic? You already did 80% of the work by typing and fixing some grammatical errors.

I would like to see a pic to see how worse the writing can get. And if the others says is true, that she got the idea from female websites, did she learn something from them? Or is the path already set, following the same road as the older females?

On a different matter, why is the word conceited so popular with girls?

[–]Tasteless_Gentleman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ha! this is a blue pill "essay" under the tag of red pill. Hilarious!!

[–]SunTzuArtofWar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And there are girls who do end up with alpha provider types. Granted these women are usually very young and the alpha's are a bit older.

Alphas win in the end, and always

[–]DarkMountain666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is perfect and a real quality post. Thank you.

[–]jugernot420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuck you cunt.. If I'm not good enough for you now you'll never be good enough for me

Wait for you? Suck my fat cock and choke to death on it bitccchhhh

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