Red Pill TheoryMadonna's Confession about Having Sex with a Fat Man (self.TheRedPill)

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"I had sex with someone who wasn't grossly obese but he was pretty overweight. It was the first and last time. I really liked this guy a lot. He was handsome but he was overweight. I wanted to be unbiased because I really liked him, but the only way I could fuck him was on top because he crushed me. I had to sit on him because his stomach was in the way. That must be what it's like to fuck a pregnant woman. They always say that women aren't into appearance as much as men are, but it's not true. I think women are just as moved by appearance, but they are willing to accept a situation where the man is less attractive because of the who earns the bread situation. There are so many women with the ugliest guys. I swear to God if they didn't have money, forget it. Two hundred fifty pounds, five seven, bald, disgusting misogynist pigs. Deep down inside these women know, but they ain't gonna tell nobody." - Madonna, "Sex" (1992)

[–]yaardi 283 points284 points  (20 children)

Yeah, the difference between "my puffy teddy-bear" and "disgusting fat pig" is the size of the wallet.

[–]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG 353 points354 points  (19 children)

Years ago I watched a porn scene where the director interviewed the girl before the shoot.

So he introduces the girl to the camera, asks her to stand up to show the goods, and it becomes apparent that she's much taller than him.

The director notes 'you're pretty tall, for a girl', and she responds with 'well, you're pretty short for a guy'.

To which he retorts in a dismissive tone: 'I'm much taller when I stand on my wallet'

That quote has stuck with me ever since, and I love the double meaning behind it.

[–]rockinhard130 81 points82 points  (1 child)

This is like one of the best quotes I've ever read lol

[–]WhySoRuff 23 points24 points  (2 children)

"that'll change once your on your knees" wouldve been a good one too....

[–]chaapu 4 points5 points  (4 children)

What's the other meaning here?

[–]PMYourShirtNoBraPics 24 points25 points  (0 children)

He's saying two things:

  1. "I'm loaded," as in he has enough money that he could actually stand on it and be taller.

  2. "Money matters most," as in it doesn't matter that he's short because he's loaded. You're as tall as girls need you to be when you're loaded.

[–]RobertCarraway 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He's much taller when he stands on his wallet

[–]ahoy25 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's simple.

  • taller
  • much taller

/u/UrsusG right?

/u/RobertCarraway same idea, right?

[–]MrTyler_Durden 1 point2 points  (5 children)

I'm so glad I saw this. I'm 5'7 so I get shit tested for my height occasion. I also got money in the bank so this is the perfect line.

[–]EsteraMC points points [recovered]

But it isn't the perfect line. You actually confirm that you are short, that it is a problem and that only way to fix it is by spending money. You are basically saying "Yes, I'm short, I'm less worth and therefore I need to pay for sex". It is awful, don't use it.

[–]MrTyler_Durden 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I actually used it on thirsty Thursday. Worked perfectly.

lol there's no denying I'm short it's right there in front of them. So when they say you're short for a guy what am I supposed to say... "Um actually I'm 6'3" there's no reason for me not to confirm that I'm short because it's right there in front of them lol

[–]EsteraMC points points [recovered]

It worked perfectly? Did you fuck her?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 507 points508 points  (67 children)

This is the chapter that describes how Madonna was able to succeed in the very competitive music industry. (By fat fucking her way to the top).

[–]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG 392 points393 points  (48 children)

She's also inconsistent from one sentence to the next.

The 'overweight' guy:

wasn't grossly obese


the only way I could fuck him was on top because he crushed me


I had to sit on him because his stomach was in the way

That's not 'overweight', that's exactly 'grossly obese'.

So yeah, she was fucking some obese

Two hundred fifty pounds, five seven, bald, disgusting misogynist pig

music label executive, but 'she liked him a lot' because 'he was handsome'.

Hamster Olympics 2017.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 201 points202 points  (14 children)

I really liked him

disgusting misogynist pig

Behold, the monolith erected to honor the Red Pill.

[–]rathyAro 65 points66 points  (3 children)

Based on the flow of the paragraph I don't think she's calling the guy she banged misogynist. I think she's speaking generally about guy who women settled for.

[–]OneMoreBadger 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Shhhhhh don't disrupt the agenda

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, she just randomly added a comment about other fat guys. Not him at all. He was special. That's why she was ranting. wtf?

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

yeah, good job disregarding context. whatever fits the narrative, i guess?? just like a feminist.

haha hey that actually rhymes kinda

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ah context. The engine that drives the hamster. Did you have an actual point to make or just slinging shit? She was talking about a fat guy. He lumped him in with other fat guys. Then she delivered that money shot.

[–]AlwaysFlank 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We really should create a structure for this statement. Like a Stonehenge for trp. Anyone know 3d modeling?

[–]tk421awol points points [recovered]

Read it again. She talked about liking the fat guy she fucked, but then talks about other women shagging "two hundred fifty pounds, five seven, bald, disgusting misogynist pigs" because the fugly guys have money.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Yes, because the problem is OTHER women fucked fat masses, not her? Dude, stop fluffing the hamster.

[–]tk421awol points points [recovered]

"*I had sex with someone who wasn't grossly obese but he was pretty >overweight. It was the first and last time. I really liked this guy a lot. He was >handsome but he was overweight. I wanted to be unbiased because I really >liked him, They always say that women aren't into appearance as >much as men are, but it's not true. I think women are just as moved by >appearance, but they are willing to accept a situation where the man is less >attractive because of the who earns the bread situation. There are so >many women with the ugliest guys. I swear to God if they didn't have >money, forget it. Two hundred fifty pounds, five seven, bald, disgusting >misogynist pigs. Deep down inside these women know, but they ain't >gonna tell nobody."

Reading comprehension 101, dude.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Captain Pedant to the rescue? What color is your cape? I love how you assign such precision to the words from a female. I'll give you a clue before you head by back the sidebar. He was grossly obese; her hamster needed to make her right with it.

[–]tk421awol points points [recovered]

Better Captain Pedant than Miss Information. You were wrong. Now you're just making an ass of yourself. There's no use pulling imagery from solid sources if you have no idea how or when to apply it. No, this is not Captain Saveaho. This is basic freaking English and reading comprehension.

I'll give you a clue (before I block and ignore you): She fucked a fat guy that had an acceptable personality and significant power/money. Then she lamented other women being with "even worse" kinds of men --misogynist etc-- because those men have money or power. Two different sentences, two different but related ideas.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Oh, now we move to personal attacks. Splendid. And you, sir, smell of her underwear after the Grammys.

before I block and ignore you

Awwww... Taking your toys and going home? So sad.

You are adding meaning that is not there, Ye of Great Hamster. Yes, she lamented other women, because SHE would never do anything like that. She is officially absolved of all sins. The problem is, she did.

[–]ArkAngelEV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look on my works ye mighty and despair! All the truth in the universe was beside the monolith. Of that colossal structure, bountiful and true . Countless treasure like the stars, innumerable, spread across the limitless sky

[–][deleted] 59 points60 points  (5 children)

lol didn't even realize she was talking about the same guy

Figured she wouldn't "like him a lot" if he was a "disgusting misogynist pig"

[–]zephyrprime 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I don't think she's talking about the same guy. She started talking about other women with their other men. Also she writes "pigs" not "pig" singular. It could be she's just deflecting by talking about other guys in order to make things sound vague but it's ambiguous.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 62 points63 points  (2 children)

He has power over her therefore he is a misogynist pig. Hollywood has a history of sexualy exploiting women and children.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well.. most of hollywoods are also men with big ugly noses.. just don't forget it...

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 52 points53 points  (9 children)

Women need the hamster to allow them to raise and love the child of their rapist. Historically this was a very very common situation for women (just read the Bible). So they adapted psychologicaly to it.

[–]UniversalFapture 3 points4 points  (7 children)

The bible is the shit tho . When its bot cherry pickeded

[–]dark_dragoon10 25 points26 points  (6 children)

[–]evoblade 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Hey, I'm currently picking the bot cherries from my bible. I don't know what you are talking about.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Fucking right, I enjoy bot cherries and I'm atheist.

[–]Lo-G 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'm a transgender pansexual who self-defines as a transcendent multidimentional non-being and the fact that you enjoy ANYTHING from the bible triggers me beyond belief.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

To be fair, most people think "obese" means circus freak levels of fat. In reality, most guys with "just a beer gut" fall into the obese range.

[–]goldnhorde 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes on this. As people have just gotten to cartoonish levels of fatness .... these adjectives keep shifting and shifting.

to the point now that "normal" is fat. fat is obese. and obese is that person you see at McDonalds that you actually cancel your order and end up not eating until the next meal.

[–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

> Hamster Olympics 2017.

Hamster Gold 1992!

[–]Eosei 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He was handsome but he was overweight. I wanted to be unbiased because I really liked him, but the only way I could fuck him was on top because he crushed me. I had to sit on him because his stomach was in the way. That must be what it's like to fuck a pregnant woman.

She's talking about a man with a huge beer belly getting in the way when she's on top and crushing her if he's on top, not someone fat in obese style and soft all-over.

[–]1------6EQUJ5-11--1- points points [recovered]

It's not obese by American standards, I think that's what she meant.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

5'7" and 250 lbs is most definitely obese unless they're some sort of linebacker.

[–]Troll_Name 9 points10 points  (1 child)

25 years ago it sure as hell was. That was right around the time kids stopped playing outside and started sitting down all their lives. People got fatter and fatter from that point forward.

[–]InMooseWeTrust 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nothing good ever came from helicopter parenting

[–]godfatherchimp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So yeah, she was fucking some obese

Her hamster still hasn't come to terms with herself

[–]harsha_hs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if he has the power, she fucks him the same night she said this!

[–]40_SixandTwo 14 points15 points  (9 children)

That's how a lot of the make it in the music industry. At least back in the day, that is.

[–]rathyAro -2 points-1 points  (8 children)

I'm no expert on this but it kinda doesn't make sense to me. How would being willing to have sex give any kind of edge? I don't imagine it's hard to find people willing to have sex for much less. Also from the perspective of the guy, why even bother? You could get a hanful of people famous and have sex with them or you can find people who will sell well and make you rich and buy infinite prostitutes who are just as hot.

[–]40_SixandTwo 11 points12 points  (4 children)

That's how the music industry works, my man. You either know someone or blow someone. Its a tight network.

[–]rathyAro 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm just trying to think from the music exec's perspective. Ok this scenario I could see making sense: guy who can get new talent to the music execs requires every aspiring star to bang him to be listened to and then from that group he can decide which he thinks are actually good and help them start their career. Still at that point sex would just be an entry fee, talent/appeal is really carrying them to fame.

[–]harsha_hs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

what talent man, every girl is curvy and can sing

[–]PragmaticRedTruth points points [recovered]

[–]RPmatrix 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I see you've not heard of the "casting couch"?

women have traded sex for 'favors' for .. forever!

[–]rathyAro 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Nah I have. I think the part that seems weird is the "she only became famous because she sucked dick" when lots of ppl can and will suck dick but do not become famous. If I think of it as a barrier of entry and then she becomes famous off her own merit then that makes sense.

[–]RPmatrix 5 points6 points  (0 children)

IMO she was 'made famous' after some people decided to market her, and tbh at the time she was pretty out there. It's hard to believe how prudish the US is and how well 'sex sells' as a result but Madonna is a perfect example

and there's no doubt she made 'connections' in the industry byy fucking her way there ,, but what's new about that? lol

[–]GoodKingWenceslaus 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Her music is so bad. Total shit.

[–]godfatherchimp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True but irrelevant. When MTV came around, popular music slowly started becoming primarily about the artist's image and the ability to entertain, rather than the actual quality of the music. If your artists have video associated with them, they don't have to focus on the audio as much and can still turn solid profit. It's the path of least resistance for both the artists and record companies.

[–]Ragnarrrrr points points [recovered]

Is this book worth reading?

[–]tio1w 0 points1 point  (0 children)


(Source: found a scanned copy online some 10 years ago. It's crap.)

[–]Yankee_Fever -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

Is this actually a chapter in the book!? Or are you just talking shit

[–]jadzia_daxxx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was a joke. Why would she have a chapter on such a subject? Besides, she clearly says it was the first and last time she would sleep with a fat guy.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 56 points57 points  (2 children)

I think women are just as moved by appearance, but they are willing to accept a situation where the man is less attractive because of the who earns the bread situation

Exactly. I'd care less about looks too if she was paying for everything and I don't have to fuck her.

[–]verify_account points points [recovered]

Exactly. I'd care less about looks too if she was paying for everything and I don't have to fuck her.

You know, I'd be okay with that too. That's how women feel about beta bucks. They provide money and resources and they give them pity sex or none at all. Fuck me.

[–]harsha_hs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lift lift lift. your life depends on it.

[–]Lsegundo 179 points180 points  (6 children)

I hate her politics and personality. I really liked a lot of her early music.

In the past I have fucked some really fat women during a slump. You can't fuck them properly. You're battling her ass or gut with every thrust. There is nothing great about big tits when they are floppy.

This is my IDGAF post of the week.

[–]rockinhard130 35 points36 points  (2 children)

Ugh ain't this the truth. Jesus! Thirty lbs no big deal. 80+ shudder. You need the jaws of life to get the fupa outta the way

[–]NightGod 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ugh, thanks for the flashback to that grenade I jumped on to help a buddy out one time. NEVER again!

[–]Buchloe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lost my virginity to an obnoxious fat chick that was just hounding me for my nuts. Bitch got on top of me and started doing this hip rocking shit, thought she was gonna snap off my dick.

[–]GOATmar 109 points110 points  (6 children)

If you think your woman wont cuck you for a muscular VTaper'd physique Chad, youre sadly mistaken.

Max out your genetic potential by lifting and eating well. It's not on option. It is mandatory.

[–]Andramoiennepe 50 points51 points  (3 children)

If you think your woman won't cuck you for a fat, bald, rich dude, you're sadly mistaken.

[–]GOATmar 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Those types of men have a significantly less chance of getting laid than your average lower class athletic Chad.

Dont get me wrong. Status & Influence arouses women no doubt. But Strong Jawline, golden male body ratio and good posture arouses women more than status does.

Poor Chad with tight game scores far more quality poon than ugly fat slob CEO with tight game millions in his bank account.

[–]3ncryption 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Also, the girls actually like banging chad. They endure the experience with fat wallet guy.

[–]bdralph 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. It may even cost about $150,000 in net worth to compensate for every 5-10 lbs you are overweight compared to Chad. Beyond 50 lbs overweight, that rate doubles. Beyond 100 lbs, it triples.

[–]lord_of_some_stuff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thank my father and mother all the time for slightly better than average genetics, showing me the importance of exercise and teaching me how to cook healthy meals

[–][deleted] 89 points90 points  (24 children)

[fat,] bald, disgusting misogynist pigs

Chick reasoning: he's unattractive, therefore hates women

[–]1swaglordobama 17 points18 points  (18 children)

It's probably more so that he's unattractive but uses his status and power to get laid. His appearance has nothing to do with it. Have you seen rsd luke? Lmfao. You want to tell me that guys lays the hottest girls in the world, and their friends, because he's rich or hot? No, it's because he's fucking smart. He knows that the hottest girls are in exclusive social circles and rarely go to out in public because they literally have the highest status fuckboys trying to lay them with money. His game is entirely based around social circle.

Ultimately the only thing you need to fuck a woman is your mind. You are fooling yourself if you think attraction gets you anything other than attention. You still need game.

Being physically attractive is negligible. Thinking looks matter is blue pill shitwad thinking. You're plugged in. Look around you. A lot of rich men have ugly fucking wives. A lot of beautiful women are dating average or ugly guys. It's the validation seeking warpigs who latch onto hot guys, similarly how low status men put high status women on pedestals and swoon over them. You attract what you deserve, nothing more.

[–]5xtheflava 8 points9 points  (8 children)

Thinking looks matter is blue pill shitwad thinking.

I'm guessing you're one of those "game guys" who's lacking in looks? I've noticed there's a division on this forum between the "looks guys" and the "game guys".

[–]jim234234red points points [recovered]

Yep. Looks vs money and status is just a summation. If you have a lot of one, you don't necessarily need as much as the other.

But the more you got of both, the easier time you'll have.

Money and status carry more weight the older a man gets, while looks is far more important when under 30 or so.

But both are important.

[–]1swaglordobama 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You didn't mention fun.

Put a great looking man, an obscenely rich man, and a fun guy who doesn't give a fuck in a room full of women. Low self esteem girls who want validation will cling to the looks guy, gold diggers will cling to the money guy, every other girl will be with the fun guy.

Why? Because he is the fucking party and they don't have an agenda; people, especially women, just want to have a good time.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My thing is women only care about how they feel. You can absolutely make women feel a certain way without looks.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like they're taking their own pills.

[–]1swaglordobama 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Haha no, i've been told i'm good looking but I also have my shortcomings. A girl cares more about how secure and comfortable you are with yourself as opposed to your appearance. Women have no physical standards.

Evolutionarily there is also no reason for men's looks to matter. Again, looks give you attraction, but you can get attraction through a lot of things like tattoos, how you dress, your voice, your social proof (if she sees you roll up with other girls, for example), how at ease you are in the environment, etc.

At the primal level women are scanning for alpha traits. Your appearance has nothing to do with whether you are an alpha or beta male.

It's not to say don't try to look good; it definitely doesn't hurt you to be physically attractive, groom, dress well, etc. However, don't blame your lack of results on your looks, either. There are so many fugly men fucking beautiful women.

[–]5xtheflava 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Evolutionarily there is also no reason for men's looks to matter.

At the primal level women are scanning for alpha traits. Your appearance has nothing to do with whether you are an alpha or beta male.

This is just horrible advice.

[–]1swaglordobama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Horrible advice is telling people to be insecure about their appearance because you think women feel attraction and arousal the same way that men do.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (7 children)

Have you seen rsd luke?

OMG this guy is a wizard. Fat fuck, but seems to "get it". I think we (well, I) could learn a lot from him.


[–]John_E_Vegas 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Hmmmm. Maybe I need to see a few more videos. Anyone can flirt with hotties but getting them into the sack is a different story.

[–]whuttupfoo 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I dunno I seen the guy eating ass on Snapchat. That Shit was crazy.

[–]silver-gun 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I watched the video. What to learn from him besides being a good conversationalist?

[–]rossiFan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You can't learn having a 10 inch penis and how to give a girl a uteran orgasm with it.

[–]1swaglordobama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yes, just pull out your 10 inch penis in a public square and every girl will get on her knees and beg for your cum. If only my dick was 10 inches long, man! Thats how u get da chix, you just show them ur big dikkk hhehe ughhh iguess us under 10 guys will have to just use money and looks I guess haha haha its so simple its just about da dik siiize why didn't I see that hhehe its cool just show them ur dikkkk hheh cuz girls experience arousal the same way men do lil hhehe plates hamsters plates hmasters show them da dikkkkkkk

[–]Conceited-Monkey -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The hamster is strong in that one.

[–]jadzia_daxxx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or he doesn't care enough about women to take care of himself in order to look good for them...

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But she "liked him" until he sex sucked.

[–]paperlion60 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She has to have a good reason to hate them, and the easiest way is to throw in the lovely one-word pejorative . Hamster master

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That was my initial reaction, too. But OTOH, the entertainment industry is filled with people who take advantage of others.

[–]Nodeal_reddit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think a guy in this position has very little respect for women because he knows exactly why they are sleeping with him.

[–]NotNormal2 29 points30 points  (2 children)

it's okay for a fit good looking guy to be asshole, but not so a fat unattractive guy.

[–]JihadDerp 20 points21 points  (1 child)

I once heard a girl describe a good looking guy as "douche bag hot." I.e. he's so hot he can be a douche and get away with it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 63 points64 points  (4 children)

Funny how they become "misogynist pigs" because they are fat. Or are they misogynist pigs because they are getting what they want by fucking the (at the time) hot new thing. If the man in question that was fucking her had six-pack abs you can be it wouldn't be misogyny on the tip of her tongue. The packaging (exterior) is the content (interior). Shitty package = shitty content. Excellent package = excellent content. Women are shallow. They can only see what is in front of them. An ugly man must be a bigot or misogynist or republican. A hot guy is good mate material so no point in using a condom.

[–]cashmoney_x 19 points20 points  (3 children)

That's people in general. Google the halo effect and also think about how evil female villains were portrayed back in the way (ugly as shit with warts and huge noses).

[–]Jigsus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I can think of a few fairytales with very beautiful female villains

[–]pilljourney 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ever heard of a siren, though?

[–]tio1w 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This comes from the time of the Greeks.

Beauty on the outside mirrors beauty on the inside (personality, morality)

[–]Platos_slow_brother 47 points48 points  (4 children)

Male strippers are not selected based on income.

Enough said, I believe, on what women really find sexually desirable.

[–]SaraSmell 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Unless women hire male strippers for different reasons than men.

[–]GoodKingWenceslaus 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Lol I'm 5"8 so clearly I must humble myself before this great goddess of virtue and great deeds.

Though yes, this again is why there are people who think of women as an inferior group: saying on the one hand that they are deep and don't care about looks, on the other, being insanely vapid and stupid.

[–]John_E_Vegas 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Well Tom Cruise is 5'7" and alpha as fuck so don't worry about it.

[–]marplaneit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"alpha" but is a Scientology slave...

[–]LordThunderbolt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He's "alpha" in movies. Do u know him in real life?

[–]Frontfart 23 points24 points  (7 children)

I'm gay and I notice the opposite. I see dudes that are blue collar and stunning hotties with the most horrendous slugs of women. I don't get it.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Scarcity mentality. They don't think they can do better.

[–]silver-gun 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I know someone who is good looking but broke. He can do better with abundance mentality?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

He can do better by getting a job or getting a better job. Interviews are similar to dealing with a woman. If you go into work saying "Damn I'm so glad I have this job because I couldn't get another one. No one is hiring." (scarcity) vs "This place isn't treating me right, I think I'll take that offer from So and So Co." Or leverage a new job offer for better pay (abundance).

Of course it's one thing to have the mentality, actually being good enough to have that confidence is a whole other thing. Although that doesn't stop people from "faking it until they make it".

That said, your broke friend needs to know that he's got options. In women, jobs, and life. If he feels like he doesn't, he's got to make himself better and put himself into a position to have options. Or fake it until he does.

I hope that answers your question.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

They kinda have their own social circles. Most blue collar people started hanging out together in high school. The men work hard and build muscle, while their wives just get fat.

[–]JackGetsIt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the fact that their husbands are so in shape and active make them depressed and they try to eat their way out of depression. Women in general don't age well either and these couple are normally the same age because they married in highschool. So the guys going to naturally look better.

[–]Easih 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not gay and noticed this as well ; like they contend themselves with the absolute minimum.

[–]Conceited-Monkey 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Looks matter for both genders. For guys, it is the main criteria, whereas for women it can be partially mitigated by the man's status. Money also works but the women are not actually attracted to the guy, just his cash.

Not a huge fan of Madonna, but she is a marketing genius in that she has reinvented herself constantly. I doubt her continued success is solely due to banging music company execs.

[–]Rommel0502 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You mean people aren't sexually attracted to fat, out-of-shape, lazy fucks?

No way ...

[–]clint_bronson 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Come on, vogue, Let your body go with the flow

she sang as she rode the fatman's belly

[–]thrillated 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you're a fatso, just stop fucking eating as much. Not because you want to fuck Madonna, just for yourself.

[–]Alicia123GO 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Lost ALL Respect for her a long time ago!

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 4 points5 points  (0 children)

disgusting misogynist pigs..

just because they're ugly and fat makes them misogynist?

[–]GoodKingWenceslaus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

When did fat-shaming become ok among feminists?

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 4 points5 points  (5 children)

I wonder what Madonna's asshole looks like

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Probably looks like an asshole.

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Yeah, but I want to see a comparison from her 1980s era Asshole to her current cornhole. Is it permanently stretched out? Does it turn inside out sometimes? I theorize that her bunghole has been permanently stretched out beyond all natural limits.

[–]bdralph 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I knew it! I always suspected most women felt this way about sleeping with overweight men.

[–]jazzyjacck 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"I swear to God if they didn't have money, forget it.... bald, disgusting misogynist pigs. Deep down inside these women know, but they ain't gonna tell nobody." Reminds me of Trump and Melania.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Here's the funniest thing about this WHOLE thing though.

Women like men with resources because those resources can be used to take care of their offspring and themselves.

It's an evolutionary trait. She is attracted to the resources.

This is like men being attracted to women with big hips and big breasts. They like it to provide for safe births of big headed children and milk to feed them during their young years.

To look 'down' upon women for their 'liking' of resources with terms like 'gold digger'... is like a woman calling a man a 'pig' because he likes girls with big boobs.

The only unsymmetry here is this: Unattractive guys can get hot women by becoming wealthy. But unattractive girls can't do anything; Men are rarely attracted to wealth in the same way.

This whole 'gold-digger' shaming thing is likely a strategy from the feminists and women in general in order to try to 'shame' men from taking advantage of this OBVIOUS natural asymmetry between the sexes.

But in truth it's no difference, she is AS attracted to him because of his wallet... as he is attracted to her because of her big breasts and wide hips.

[–]needforhealing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that's so true...no matter how much feminism says we're equal.

How much education women get, at the end of the day, they want to be provided for for the most part

[–]5xtheflava 4 points5 points  (1 child)

They always say that women aren't into appearance as much as men are, but it's not true.

Woman are MORE into the appearance of the opposite gender than men. By far.

[–]shamanlunatic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why do people care what that slut writes?

[–]1KyfhoMyoba 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But yet, if the same fat guy had little or no money, but had a yu-u-u-u-uge ego and was outcome independent and dominant as fuck, well, you do the math.

[–]byom-fakemail-de 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At least she didn't got pregnant with a Little Boy.

[–]ecosci -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Let me tell you something weight and height dont really matter if you have mega confidence and options ive seen hot women go after borderline homeless dirt bags all because of his confidence,here we go again another guy listening to what a female writes and says istead of watching her actions.