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Red Pill Example10 logical fallacies that block you from success, plus Beachbloke's Lazy Lay method (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by beachbloke

TRP is a toolkit that is designed to make men more successful as men. TBP is a group of well accepted ideas that are based on feelings not facts. As you embrace TRP, you will shatter many preconceived notions. Here are some that you can work on:

Fallacy 1) You are good enough for anyone - There is a big totem pole of SMV and you fit into it somewhere. You aren't at the top. You can improve your SMV, but you will never be hot enough for every woman.

Fallacy 2) You aren't enough - No matter your SMV, you have some value that women want. It might be very few women, but there is a woman out there who will get hot over you in the right situation. Likewise, there are very attractive women who like you in particular for some reason.

Fallacy 3) Women don't care about looks - Women care about looks a lot. However women will say "He's a great smart, loving guy" when they actually mean "He has big pecs and huge meaty legs". Any hot guy who hasn't always been hot will tell you how many compliments they get now on things that have nothing to do with their looks, but the only thing that changed is their looks.

Fallacy 4) Women will fuck me if I treat them well - Its impossible to earn good sex with favors. The best sex is when a girl thinks you're hot. Its really better just to use your hand than to spend tons of effort on a girl for dry vag starfish sex.

Fallacy 5) Vaginas have value - If you're not trying to make a baby, vaginas have very little value. Masturbating really isn't that bad compared to sex. Women don't have anything you really need, so don't get worked up about them.

Fallacy 6) The more I work the more reward I will receive - Results don't equal input in anything. Stop trying so hard and use your brain to figure out where to put effort. Don't be lazy now, but don't do retarded shit like work out 7 days a week for 2 weeks and then never touch a bar bell again. Likewise, next a girl if she comes up with excuses for your date suggestions.

Fallacy 7) I am worth more than what I'm getting - Incel faggot? Angry because you're "better than that"? Well, here's news for you faggot. People were lying to you about your attractiveness. You're getting exactly what your value is. Increase your value and lower your standards.

Fallacy 8) Huge muscles are unattractive/cliche - Let me put it this way: Wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. The number of women who will be DTF goes up and up with muscles. Roided competition muscles are extremely difficult to get, you will never get them, and they are not the same as the stronk muscles you can get with 3 workouts a week.

Fallacy 9) I need to chat with a woman to make her like me - The women I fuck I send maybe 4 texts to over a few days, talk to for like 30 min, and then fuck. Every time. Women who are in your league will be DTF right away. Maybe 1 or 2 shit tests, some light LMR, and then bang. You shouldn't be talking to girls who waste your time. There are girls out there who won't. Maybe you need to start looking down market?

Fallacy 10) Women don't like sex - lol. Maybe not with you. However, once a month during ovulation, EVERY woman craves from the bottom of her soul to be filled with a hot muscly man's cum. If they meet a man who is in their hot threshold, their logic centers turn completely off, and that man can literally take her to the nearest private place and bone the shit out of her without even talking to her first if he has the balls to. Every woman is like this. During the rest of the month, women are able to use their brains, but all* women still love and crave sex, but only with a man they admire. *all straight/not fucked up women


Now here are some conclusions taking into consideration reality:

Conclusion 1) Get hotter - Getting into more women's hot threshold makes life so much easier. Lift and do whatever it takes.

Conclusion 2) Talk to the right girls - Talk to all the girls you can of all types until you find the level which responds easily. Many incels have too high standards for what they can get. Better to be a shitty alpha than an incel. Go downmarket if you must.

Conclusion 3) Move fast - The girls that will go on a date with you already know it when they have looked at you. Fortune favors the bold. Move faster than she is used to with everything you do. Talk to her the way you want. Touch her the way you want. If she likes you she will let you. If she doesn't like you, you can tell its time to move on.


Beachbloke's Lazy Lay method - Since some of you will inevitably ask, I've worked out a way to order tacos online that is doing well for me. Here's my technique:

Intro message: Hey, plz don't wear that <item of clothing in her pics> on our date. I have the same one I'm going to wear and it would be weird. thx

Her: Lol, we haven't even talked about a date

Me: Guess we have to fix that, grab a coffee with me tomorrow at 7?

Her: Hahah, ok where?

Me: <Wafflehouse address> see you then

Her: Ok :)

Me (15 min before): On my way see you in a few

Worth noting, I don't get her number. I talk only in the dating app until the date unless she gives me her number without my asking.

Wafflehouse is a great place for a coffee for a few reasons: 1) Your date can see you from outside. 2) Its usually empty. 3) The people working at wafflehouse are usually easy and fun to talk to. 4) Its not a place women typically get dates. 5) Old-style diners are a classic date spot from the 40s and 50s that women appreciate. 6) All the windows make her feel safe.

1st Date: I try to get there 5 minutes early so I can get to know the server and cook. They are like the bartender at a bar and having some rapport with them puts me in a good mood and helps during the date. I always sit at the bar so I can kino, and I put my jacket on her chair to claim it, and also so she is entering my territory when she sits down. When she gets there I try to be in the middle of a conversation with the server or cook so she sees preselection. When she walks in I don't get up, but I tell her I'm happy to see her and point her to her chair. I try to keep the conversation to 30 min. My usual kino stack is like this: right after saying hi and shaking her hand, I'll ask her how her day went. She'll tell me and maybe ask how mine is. After that then I'll make fun of her about something on her profile. She'll usually laugh and get googly eyed, I'll laugh back and push her shoulder. After that I'll ask her a mundane question, but grab her hand and hold it and lock eyes while I ask it. She'll usually have difficulty answering, which is great. I'll try to make fun of her about something in her job or her past and as though she is cute, brush the hair off her neck. If she lets me touch her neck, a kiss is in the bag later. At that point its been 15-20 min and I ask for the check as we continue to talk. I'll pay for both coffees because it doesn't matter and I just want it to be quick at this point. Then I'll tell her I have to go do something specific (:( and now I have to go bring my dog to the vet), I'll hold her hand to walk her to her car right outside. I'll say "you know there's a weekend coming up we should do something." Then I tell her I'll text her while I brush her hair off her ear and peck her on the lips. I'll hover an inch away afterwards. She'll usually be horny af by now so I'll french kiss after hovering. While french kissing, I make a point to grab her boob and butt with my hands. That's important because it lets her know she will get dicked if she shows up next time. I'll tell her I really have to go but to text me when she gets home so I know she is safe.

2nd Date: If the boob and butt touch go well while kissing, she's DTF for sure. The next day I'll send her a message like "I'm free at 9PM on sat, watch a movie with me?" She'll almost always say yes at this point, I'll send her my address and "see you then". No contact until she sends me a message or shows up at my door. When she shows up I ask her how her day has been, then grab her by the hand and guide her up to my bedroom. I'll have my tablet up there with a funny movie picked out. I just turn it on and let her get comfortable, have my arm around her, and then like 30 seconds in say "hey". As we lock eyes I'll sweep her hair and kiss. At this point its down hill to sex -- super easy. I'll touch her boob and butt while kissing, then push her away by the forehead after 20 seconds. Then after a second or two, I'll pull her strongly back to kiss while getting her on top of me. Once she's on top its done. We're already in bed so there is nothing to it except linking the kino. Grind her pussy, get a boob out to suck, get her hand down my pants, finger her, get her to start sucking, take her pants off, fuck the shit out of her. Easy

After the lay: I'll usually finish the movie with her while cuddling naked. If I like her I'll ask her if she's hungry and we'll drive somewhere to grab fast food, asian, a diner, or whatever really. I've got a front bench seat truck, so I'll get her to sit in the middle so I can have my arm around her. At this point its whatever. I'll enjoy whatever I'm getting out of this woman and put little effort in.

What I wear: I've experimented a bunch, and my favorite date costume right now is a $10 flannel shirt I wear with 3 buttons undone, $10 light colored jeans, and $10 white sneakers that I use for mowing and home improvement. I bought it all at Walmart. I also have a couple $2000 suits and a few pairs of $500 shoes in my closet, but I've found the cheap shit works the best for me to turn women on. I think it says "I am who I am". I have a sleeve tattoo on my left arm (highly recommend). I wear a gold and leather watch and a gold/carnelian signet ring.


[–]Mr-Ed209 49 points50 points  (12 children)

Fallacy 9) I need to chat with a woman to make her like me - The women I fuck I send maybe 4 texts to over a few days, talk to for like 30 min, and then fuck. Every time. Women who are in your league will be DTF right away. Maybe 1 or 2 shit tests, some light LMR, and then bang. You shouldn't be talking to girls who waste your time. There are girls out there who won't. Maybe you need to start looking down market?

-This. The amount of chances i've missed because i thought it to be 'too soon'. Once interest is established move in, women know subconsciously when you are 'stalling' and nothing turns them off faster. Theres a fine line between being a challenge and her realising you like her but not doing anything about it.

[–]oZeplikeo 7 points8 points  (7 children)

I got rejected last night (LMR outside her apartment complex) and I literally just met her 2 hours before. We made out and I escalated all night but at the end when she turned me away I tried to just ignore her and keep going for it. She didn't like that, and I think my chances w her now are fucked. Was I too aggressive? Is there a middle ground I need to aim for?

[–]beachbloke[S] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Yeah you are done with that one. There are a million more. Forget her and move on.

[–]ThirstyBetaMale points points [recovered]

Never make out unless its the end of a date and you are the one who ended it. I remember watching some PUA's vid on this very subject and it has stuck with me ever since. Whenever you make out with a girl, she feels like a slut basically. Goes double if it was in a public place. She is much less likely to do anything with you ever. I ruined a girl like this my first year in university. Instead jsut do a shit ton of kino and do what Beach talked about, having doing light kino and then escalating at the end before pulling away for a second date. Works 20x better.

[–]newls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh, good advice, thanks for that.

[–]PaperbackParrot 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Next her and find another one.

[–]ArkAngelEV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This a thousand times. All the voices from your past that told you " i need to get to know you better, than sex is more fulfilling/means something more/will be better" is a LIE. Don't fall for it. They are DTF all the time, just not with you

[–]Docbear64 50 points51 points  (1 child)

Fallacy 6) The more I work the more reward I will receive

This a thousand times no one has ever gotten paid or rewarded for their effort . You get paid or rewarded for your skills , for your appeal , for your value but no one in the world cares how hard you try .

I've met too many men who misattribute their success to the investment of time and energy they made and not HOW they applied their time and energy in those times.

Work smarter not harder, success is about navigating the best path and taking the opportunities when they cross your path and yet still appreciating that even then picking the wrong opportunity can fail you .

I have so many people in my life I'd love to blast this information too but they are happier burning themselves out for a promise of a reward they'll never see or won't see until they have far out - performed their value relative to that reward.

[–]1337Mcburnie 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If you want to know someone who works hard, it's my familys gardener. Hardest working guy I know. You should never aspire to work like that. You should aspire to be a guy who owns 20 lawn mowing companies. Work smart not hard.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Great post man, thanks. Makes me realise that the main issue is the "what if"'s, "oh shit she", "fuck i just" anxieties in my head that simply do nothing but retract boldness and limit intention due to fear, but there is technically nothing to fear.

It's probably just a scarcity mindset and lack of confidence. If i tried to follow this as a guide every step i would just be shitting it.

[–]Papahoff25 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just go for it one night, watch the excitement in her eyes as you give her the tingles. That's the best way to get over those little fears. Little by little

[–]morexel 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This is actually two pretty good posts in one. I think the strongest advice is to end the first date early and have the second one at home. I don't know that going for tits on the first kiss is going to actually help your chances. Date 2 escalation is trivial even without a kiss on date 1.

It's also somewhat sad that everything has become these stupid online apps turning into the same dates over and over again. We've really fallen as a society. But at least men can enjoy this decline for the next decade or so.

[–]smirk_addict 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Great strategy. It seems to have a higher success rate. So many guys try to have sex within the first hour of meeting a girl. That's not doable without proper logistics and even if you succeed there's a lot of Buyer's Remorse. Genuinely, if I find the girl attractive enough to sleep with the first time I like to keep sleeping with her. You make sure the encounter is very sexual, you create build up by working the girl up and calming her down. Then you ease off. She wants you because you are bold but not desperate and overly aggressive. She feels like seeing you again is her decision but she's in your frame the entire time. Then you scale back communication so she builds up the whole thing in her head. You are very good man.

[–]samenrofringslikeLBJ points points [recovered]

Masturbation is allways an option to bad sex, bad women. The NoFap cult has shamed men into thinking masturbation is bad, better than the Catholic Church ever did. But you cant make a girl pregnant if u jerk it, u cant catch an STD, you cant get a false rape charge, you cant attract a potential psycho/stalker, if you just say "thanks, but no thanks" to bad women and sex. Overall great list OP.

[–]no_face 85 points86 points  (0 children)

This comment is so great, I masturbated while reading it

[–]livem0re 28 points29 points  (6 children)

it's the addiction that is demonized, because it's disastrous for many men.

[–]TB3o3 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Then why don't they preach self-control instead of complete abstinence and ridiculously long dry-spells?

[–]Frenetic_Zetetic 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Because self-control involves discernment and discipline. They'd rather look more disciplined by throwing the baby out with the bathwater, hence BP.

[–]livem0re 3 points4 points  (0 children)

once you realize how harmful it is, abstinence is the best option. porn is this generation's smoking. Why not one cigarette a week? That would be self-control.

[–]Psychoptic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm guessing they don't have a TB-303 to play with all day so they go for the yogurt slinger in its place

[–]newls 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The root problem is with porn addiction, not ejaculation addiction.

But don't jump to criticise NoFap too quickly. NoFap is still at its core a positive movement that has had a profoundly positive impact on my life. For every guy slating it there are 50 others whose lives have improved because of it.

[–]ThatKassiusGuy 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Well I don't know about the rest of you but I benefitted greatly from taking the 90 day challenge they preach.

After a grueling 70 days of it I discovered myself to be a new man so to speak. It cured me of my PMO addiction for starters. I also found myself filling up all my new free time with working out, learning new skills and gaming girls when I went out, or girls at work which I later regretted.

All in all, an enlightening experience. I'm not going to say it is completely devoid of bullshit but it can set people on the right track by boosting there much needed willpower, and pushing them to do new things to improve themselves.

Maybe it's changed after all this time but back when I was on it 5 years ago it was a pretty solid subreddit. Thank god I left it when I found TRP because looking at the state of it just now, complete fuckassery.

[–]ImamMahdi 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Actually you are right and if you talk with religious scholars, some will say that masturbation is permissible, if you know you're going to do something worse than it.

So if i know i'm getting the 'oneitis' or whatever it's called, or if i'm getting horny for some girl i'm not attracted to, but just fiending for the pussy, i'll put on some porn and see if i can jerk it instead.

After i come to my 'senses'...i'm like ...wow i can't believe i was going to do 'this and this and this and this' for this girl.........or i can't believe 'i was going to drive 2 hrs to bang this girl' or 'i can't believe i was about to spend $150 on some expensive dinner and -----'

basically, masturbation can help induce that 'abundance' mentality someone talked about on this subreddit.........and then you feel calm and not desperate

tl;dr; masturbation is still bad and you should avoid it as much as possible, but if u find yourself in a situation where you are getting desperate or about to go reallly out of your way to meet/bang a girl, just jerk it off instead so you come to your 'senses'

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Exactly, Theology is very interesting actually because someone will say something ridiculous but then over time the theological debate will reign in the excesses. The same will happen to NoFap. In a couple of years, NoFap will not be about "dont ever jerk off or you will die", but more like others have posted here, a more sane "don't jerk twice a day 365".

You bring up fantastic examples, unless we are talking about Alicia Vikander level women, it is NEVER worth it to drive 2 hours for sex, or an expensive dinner. (Also remember AWALT, if she is offering you, then she is offering a lot of other guys as well).

[–]KampalaReal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I found the red pill theory (not just the sub) via NoFap.

[–]Dropit123456 1 point2 points  (0 children)

THIS. Lost my main plate due too waking up horny as hell texting some thirsty ass shit. Jerking is a tool to be used in times like those. Now I opened a can of worms. Jeopardized my rep. Mindfulness is key.

[–]Lsegundo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Looking forward to the updated method where you rail her in the bathroom at the awful waffle. It might be time for me to make an addition to my bucket list. I miss that place and might have gotten a little teared up just thinking about AW.

[–]purplecabbage 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Better to be a shitty alpha than an incel.

This is fucking gold. Funny AF and true!

[–]Conceited-Monkey 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Love the fallacy list. It belongs on the side bar.

[–]Henos 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think the genius of this is screening, any girl who agrees to a date at Waffle House is a guaranteed easy lay

[–]5xtheflava 11 points12 points  (2 children)

women will say "He's a great smart, loving guy" when they actually mean "He has big pecs and huge meaty legs"

Guys, srsly, I know a woman who adores Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson and when you ask her why she'll always say something like "he's a big teddy bear". When I push her and say "it's because he's a tall ripped guy, right?" she'll say "no, it's because he's a giant softie" or some such hamstering. When I say "you'd ignore him if he were short and fat, right?" No answer from her at all. (edit for typo)

Roided competition muscles are extremely difficult to get, you will never get them, and they are not the same as the stronk muscles you can get with 3 workouts a week.

Actually, roided muscles are not so hard to get, you just have to learn how to pin jooce. And slightly more reps, like 8-12, will give you more hypertrophy than "strong lifts" of just 5 reps per set.

[–]resolutions316 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Thinking this through - "big" teddy bear and "giant" softie - both seem to be deliberately contrasting his physical frame with the fact that he's widely thought to be approachable, friendly, nice, etc.

So it seems the contrast is the attraction point for this person. Subtract one element and it no longer works. (I'm sure subtracting the niceness has less of an effect than subtracting the body, however).

[–]Frenetic_Zetetic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Approx 75% of your 1RM @ 8-12 reps x 4-8 sets (depending on body part) = hypertrophy city.

[–]19yoManChild 11 points12 points  (3 children)

If you can avoid don't do food on the first date. Not fun makes and kino a little more challenging

[–]beachbloke[S] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

It doesn't really matter what you do or where you are IMO. The most important thing to seal a lay is that you are sitting next to each other and you can touch feet/legs. Touching a woman's waist, her neck, or the inside of her thigh is best prep for a good first kiss. Much easier when sitting next to each other.

[–]19yoManChild 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I don't mean to come off as argumentative but that was my point exactly.

In a bar or while playing mini golf or something you can easily be standing next to her and have a lot of natural chances to do Kino and escalate! However most restaurants are generally set up so that you are sitting across from her instead of NEXT to her. Of course this is an always the case but like I said food is cliché and generally never as fun as doing something else for the date.

However, you are completely correct. The venue means very little as long as you guys are both having fun and you escalate things!

[–]Flawless44 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Ive actually made it a point to check the google pictures a of restaurant to make sure they have side by side seating if i haven't been there before.

[–]ThirstyBetaMale points points [recovered]

So question, how does your getting the phone number and actual game work. You kind of skipped straight to online game and then the date. Like what method do you use to just talk to girls and get their numbers?

[–]beachbloke[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

I don't get their phone number online. I use the dating app. In person after the kiss close I'll ask for their number. Why bother?

[–]ThirstyBetaMale points points [recovered]

What I meant was how do you meet women, like what is your strategy method IN PERSON. Or do you do all of your stuff online? Only reason I'm interested is because me and you seem to have really similar styles/philosophies on everything. I tend to just go through the day, talking to everybody, and then the girls that give IOI's I open up on them and start deep diving.(read girlschase's deep diving article). The ones that bite, which is most, I get the numbers. From there on my game looks exactly like yours, from the text to the date and same mentality. Do you have a similar approach or are just more an online/app guy? I haven't had to much success with those personally.

[–]beachbloke[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

My daygame is zero effort also. I talk to everyone and sometimes theres a girl who I like and I'll grab their number. From then on its the same as online. Most of my lays are online cause its easy.

[–]ThirstyBetaMale points points [recovered]

Ah ok, same as me then. You must be photo model attractive. Thats the only way I've seen anybody succeed with online game as a male.

[–]Scriptopeia 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Rather offtopic but for some reason I need to get this of my chest now:

One of my best friends has the easiest time ever when it comes to getting laid since he's been hitting the gym. Just last week he slept with 4 different girl in one week. But I still don't understand how he does it.

He uses online dating apps to set up dates. We often exchange experiences and when it comes to girls he sounds like the most omega guy ever. I remember one time where he asked me whether I treated that one girl (that cheat on me) right and told her how much I loved her and if I showed her that I would fight for her and me. (I did almost vomit). One night he went 20 miles by bike at 4 am for a girl that he saw once and knew from Tinder because she didn't feel good (emo girl btw). I could go on with such examples forever.

I mean well, he is tall, but for his 2 years gym he looks pretty meh.. he has some muscles and looks relatively ripped on pictures after workout, but in reality he still looks so damn skinny. If I didn't know how he looked under his clothes I couldn't tell that he even worked out.

The worst part is that he even turns down obvious sex, because he told me that he is looking for "the one". He really likes girls with problems (Like that emo girl who he is trying to get as gf now lmao) I've told him multiple times that he is looking for the wrong thing and will never receive the same thing back from her that he gives.

edit: What I'm basically indirectly saying is that it baffles my mind how he has so much success when he apparently does the opposite of what's advocated by PUA and TRP.

[–]1mr_nate_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fallacy 5) Vaginas have value - If you're not trying to make a baby, vaginas have very little value. Masturbating really isn't that bad compared to sex. Women don't have anything you really need, so don't get worked up about them.

The only one I disagree with. You're right that pussy has little value, but I can't get my dose of feminine energy from a bro. This fallacy only holds up if you're looking for a ONS or less. Even when spinning plates, even while maintaining a healthy distance from oneitis, there IS something valuable about waking up tangled in one of your bitches arms, hair in your face, morning wood poking her ass.

Great post though, solid points. Hopefully it puts a fire under some lazy bloke's ass to go lift & approach. ♂

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hot damn. This guide is the shit.

See how it's practical and literal? None of this "be confident", "be funny", etc. There's "be fit", but that is easily solvable with the Google the Great and Powerful.

It's like a chess game. No game will be exactly alike to another (no pun intended), but if you squint a little, you will see that all games have a lot in common. This is a great guide, beachbloke. 10/10 would bang

[–]EnlightenedViking 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Fallacy 5) Vaginas have value - If you're not trying to make a baby, vaginas have very little value. Masturbating really isn't that bad compared to sex. Women don't have anything you really need, so don't get worked up about them.

Off go 10 guys renewing their pornhub account. I like the post except for this sentence. Good sex is nothing compared to beating off

[–]beachbloke[S] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

It really isn't though after you've had sex thousands and thousands of times. A lot of women are worthless to spend time with. A warm hole is sometimes not worth being in the company of the woman attached to it.

[–]EnlightenedViking 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Agree with a few of those points, including a lot(most) women worthless to spend time with.

But i'd take having sex with some babe I can tolerate that lets me get my rage fuck on any day.

Great post - maybe one day sex robots will be much better than the real thing

[–]Frenetic_Zetetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MOST times a woman's hole isn't worth putting up with BS/running TRP game for. Pick your battles. Even the best ones are rarely worth the time investment.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jesus. If I can get her alone and have her kiss me back, I don't bother with waiting for the second date. They get fucked that day.

once a month during ovulation, EVERY woman craves from the bottom of her soul to be filled with a hot muscly man's cum. If they meet a man who is in their hot threshold, their logic centers turn completely off, and that man can literally take her to the nearest private place and bone the shit out of her without even talking to her first if he has the balls to. Every woman is like this. During the rest of the month, women are able to use their brains, but all* women still love and crave sex, but only with a man they admire.

Now this shit right here I've experienced for the last 30 years I've been fucking. The week before she starts chumming for sharks is the best time to meet and fuck them. How do you know when that is? Learn to read girls, their expressions, ioi's, body language, notice she is putting herself in a position that allows you to engage with her. Don't know what that looks like? The fucking sidebar is over there. --------->

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sub becomed almost worthless.

Inexperience scream from each word of this post...

[–]rpxzz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Fallacy 1) You are good enough for anyone - There is a big totem pole of SMV and you fit into it somewhere. You aren't at the top. You can improve your SMV, but you will never be hot enough for every woman.

Why would you believe that you aren't good enough for a girl? If you are telling yourself this, how can you approach and have it go well? E.g. for hard case newbies here, who may a habit of negative self talk?

[–]beachbloke[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its a twofold issue. The usual AFC is thinking in his head that he is hot shit and he needs to just let a girl see that somehow but is intimidated by the girl. The AFC isn't the shit, but is probably ok dick for that girl on certain days. The thought process needs to be moderated on both sides.

[–]bigman1090[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Best post on trp in a long time IMO. SO MUCH to soak up.

However I don't agree with lower your standards bit that the OP mentioned. I mean people have a tough time coz they usually tend to go for women above their league. But if you put in the work, lean game, develop yourself, lift and increase your smv substantially, the women you were earlier falling for are now in your league, maybe they'd think you are out of their league. Why would you go down market? I don't take consolations bro. I'd rather not have sex than fuck a chub chub(even if it required little to no effort to get her in bed)

[–]Neverd0wn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So basically you have small talk about mundane things with her while escalating meanwhile right? And here I am worrying about what to say while I should be touching her which is more fun anyway :/

[–]oldschooltx 0 points1 point  (4 children)

One thing I'm not clear on is the time frame... are you meeting for coffee at 7am in the morning or the evening?

[–]beachbloke[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I'm meeting in the evening, but the most important thing is you are meeting when it is convenient for you.

[–]oldschooltx 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I've been working a few with the lazy lay method... shit is good for opening, but goddamn do they dodge and dip around the times. It's like you say though... next em. How do you feel about age gaps?

[–]beachbloke[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Doesn't matter how I feel. How do you feel about them?

[–]Thatguy374 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like how fallacy 1 & 2 contradict themselves in a beautiful way

[–]oldschooltx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey beachbloke I've been having some really great results with the lazy lay method. Good stuff, esp when I put my own spin on it. I met a really badass chick last night, want to try to commence. She's waaay higher than my usual spectrum as far as looks, but I don't give a fuck (well maybe a little... but I'm working on it. don't think I fucked up too much) I'm everything up to the day 2. I ended last night with just a kiss, no titties or ass (even though I think I coulda, I was just geeking off the coffee we ended up smashing two cups). Do you think it's a good idea to try and get her back to the house rather than like a night out for the Day 2? She's super smart, out of a relationship, and first time on a dating network. Also: What Since it's monday, should I hit up for a date friday night? And if yes, should I still be communicating with her between now and then with text messages?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Awesome post.

But if the comment below is true then why does TRP dedicate so much effort to helping guys get pussy?

"Masturbating really isn't that bad compared to sex. Women don't have anything you really need, so don't get worked up about them."

[–]beachbloke[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

You get to decide what's right for you

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Didn't address my question. Great post, though.

[–]ThouArtNaught 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because when you are good at something it's fun to help others and see your wisdom come life.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This sub becomed almost worthless.

Inexperience scream from each word of this post...

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Was hoping for success advuce not related to getting laid

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Another tip for guys who want to easily get into some panties, and have some good frame and decent game - go to a pub/club between 1am and closing. There are usually several women just hanging around the doors, looking for last minute opportunities so they don't have to go home alone. Lock eyes with one, if she smiles, beckon her over and eat some face.

If you look unconfident and desperate though, this won't really work. You need to be bringing that DGAF attitude hard.

Side story, earlier that night I held perfect frame with some girl trying to push my buttons. She was whining about the bar, and I called her out on it. She called me a dick, I called her a bitch (while smiling), and yet she wouldn't leave my side. Her friend even came over and wrapped her arms around my waist.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

😂😂😂 who thinks like this but a 12 year old? 😂😂😂

[–]Scriptopeia 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Back to facebook with you and your emojis.

[–]redlawnmower -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

These are not logical fallacies. Please don't miss use the term.