Rant/VentingMen climb the mountain, women sit where they are and declare it to be the mountaintop. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by eccentricrealist

If you've been browsing the Internet for a while, you've probably seen pictures comparing the attitudes of men and women in certain topics, such as women saying that Barbies are unrealistic (Despite the fact that many women sport such a body) and men seeing Arnold or a He-Man and saying, cool, I wanna be that strong someday, or simply ignoring the "unrealistic" standards of beauty that are totally a social construct and not a reflection of hard work and dedication. Men get jealous, but most men tend to do something to change their situation or simply stay content where they are if it's not worth the trouble.

I live in northern Mexico, and though we've always had women that were feisty in the sense of "breaking glass ceilings" and other things that frankly, other women have always done without needing a loudspeaker to do it, now they're increasingly acting like those leftists you see protesting the most mundane shit, which is exactly what I want to talk about right now.

In my college, traditionally, there has been a beauty pageant for almost half a century, and what used to be just about beauty is now about electing a coordinator for student groups and all that sort of college shit. There is, of course, a college newspaper and in this newspaper are either the nerdy types who like writing about science, economics, politics, and other subjects, and you have the subgroup that writes opinion pieces, and you might guess what sort of opinions this newspaper brings, the more "liberal", left leaning, borderline Marxist kids.

So the elections for a new queen are around the corner, but the student committee was pressured by an LGBT group to shut it down for "sexism". Not only them, but a lot of women began with their shit about how the queen is a sexist concept, beauty is denigrating for a woman, what have you. The committee decided to put a king in as well, which I thought was a nice move, but they're saying that it's still sexist and denigrating. So, naturally, I investigate.

Who else was complaining, of course, but the ugly women, or the antisocial girls who apparently are too far out to even know how to apply. There's this strong attitude of "If I can't be queen, nobody can." I think it's a very strong combination of jealousy and indoctrination by bitter women (Many teachers in Mexico are women and very bitter ones at that).

Tl;dr: Women are jealous if another one is being treated better and they'll fight to change your perception of the world so she looks better in it.

P. S.

Small observation to add, I see a lot of betas defending the feminists and "radical" girls like it's going to get them laid. Little do they know how it really works, huh?

[–]chaosmech 270 points271 points  (26 children)

Feminism is a system that helps ugly chicks feel important and valued.

Personal experience: walked into the gym the other day, saw a car with your typical leftist hippie bullshit (Coexist sticker, rainbow bumper sticker, feminism etc) pull up. Before seeing anything, I made a bet to myself that the woman driving the car would be an enormously fat ugly woman. I definitely won that bet.

[–]cuck_killer 68 points69 points  (2 children)

Every.fucking. Time

I am glad they spray these stickers and bullshit everywhere now to clearly mark themselves

It let's me know exactly who to avoid, not trust, and never hire as an employee under any circumstance

[–]gemmagems 5 points6 points  (1 child)

The more feministic a womban is , the more attractive she is---NOT!

The more not misogynsitic a mang is, the less attractive he is--NOT!


[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

hot women dont need feminism. men already give them things

[–]RedPillWintergreen 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Society didn't reject her. She rejected society! That's the ticket!

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

All virtue signalling is nothing but a rainbow sticker on the bumper of some asshole's car.

It comes in a lot of different forms. Sometimes it's protesting without knowing what you're protesting about. Sometimes it's calling people racist. Sometimes it's even crazier things than this.

Europe just admitted millions of hostile, unemployed Islamist males. This is really just a really big, expensive, and dangerous rainbow bumper sticker on the ass of Europe.

[–]Gawernator 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It feels like a 95% chance. Almost every hot girl I know/meet is somewhere on the conservative to "middle" spectrum or doesn't care about politics

[–]mansmanifesto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feminism and other "weak" ideologies have always existed, along with the supporters of such beliefs. However, while back in the day, the only way people could voice themselves were mostly through parades and demonstrations, today, EVERYONE has a voice in form of Twitter, FB, Instagram etc. So, it's not that this waive of "losing" mentality has emerged out of nowhere, it's just that they can voice themselves. And needless to say, there are more lazy, weak people in the world than those who actually put in effort, and hence, it is very understandable why this "following" seem to get larger and larger.

In other words, there is a bigger urge to complain about everything that is 'wrong' with the world and why 'big is beautiful' etc., since there is seemingly someone that actually listens and provides supportive comments such as 'you go girl', 'how brave of you' and other false sense of support.

Just my two cents.

[–]KingMarshmalo 2 points3 points  (11 children)

It's always the atheist liberals with "coexist" stickers

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Usually. We middle of the road atheists don't put stickers on our cars. Bumper stickers on vintage muscle is tacky.

[–]RickMantina -1 points0 points  (9 children)

I don't think you know what an atheist is.

[–]KingMarshmalo 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I don't think you know that a coexist sticker does not inherently mean you have a religion.

[–]RickMantina -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

I think I do know that. Just pointing out that most atheists don't want any religions to exist. That's pretty different from wanting them all to get along.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Most of us don't give a fuck as long as the religious don't try to force is to live by their rules or laws. Don't discriminate against us or shove bullshit down or throats and you can believe that Xenu is the galactic emperor, god is 6' tall living on the planet kolob, or that a Jewish lich somehow saved you from something someone centuries ago supposedly did.

I'm anti theist simply because of how religion retards society, divides over arbitrary bullshit, and causes more harm than it ever did good. Doesn't mean I want to write laws saying you can't believe whatever lunacy or fairytale you want, because then I'd be like the theists trying to make non belief a death sentence. The only time I rant about it is when someone mixes religion with what we do here, religion is its own thing. It might coincide, but it sure as fuck isn't the same as trp.

[–]RickMantina 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In theory I don't care what people believe so long as they don't try to force it upon others, but that's never how it works, especially in a democracy. I'm not saying I want to outlaw religion or discriminate against religious folks, just that I think society would function better if religion wasn't such a big part of how they observe and analyze the world around them.

[–]Ivabighairy1 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

I never met an atheist that doesn't believe in God.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Then you haven't met many of us. I'd say none of us have crossed your path in person. Not surprising, the first one I met was a science teacher. Nearly everyone else was a believer where I grew up.

Obviously I'm not a feminism loving liberal. I'm not even liberal. Have no use for the god hypothesis.

[–]Ivabighairy1 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

You must live a very sheltered life to think that I haven't met many God believing "atheists". I know you want to believe you're that one of a kind special butterfly but you're not.

[–]RickMantina 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think you know what an atheist is.

[–]Scymnus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You must be very arrogant to think you can decide whether or not someone believes in the same fantasy characters you do.

[–]TheReformist94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While your statement may be true feminism has benefitted women greatly. Women sit at the top whilst we climb,but supply and demand allows them to.

[–]Shaman6624 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feminism was a female rights movement with some good points and a just cause.

Feminism is being used by lesser women who indeed want to feel better about themselves and shift the blame on society instead of doing something productive. It's an attempt of frame control on a societal scale to make it socially acceptable to be a useless layabout.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feminism is a system that helps ugly chicks feel important and valued.

this is roundaboutly the WHOLE POINT of feminism as a whole

[–]MrBellsprout123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ugly and fat women are the worst human beings that have ever walked this earth. Men can be jealous and bitter too, but not even close to the caliber of women.

[–][deleted] 73 points74 points  (7 children)

It's a human nature to blame the system when you are on the short end of it (society says I'm fat, it's their fault), rather than taking personal responsibility (maybe I should lose weight).

TRP is about understanding how things really work and building yourself up with hard work and this new knowledge.

[–]eccentricrealist[S] 55 points56 points  (2 children)

Verily, we tend to take the path of least resistance.

[–]_the_shape_ 23 points24 points  (1 child)

It's proper decorum to upvote any comment beginning with "verily".

That aside, I agree with both your post and your point.

[–][deleted] 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Verily poopa doop de doodle plplplplplpl 🤺🤺🤺

[–]MuhTriggersGuise 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It is human nature, but that removes gender differences. While plenty of men are like that, I think women are moreso. I've known exceptions, but 9 out of 10 times, a person who truly puts forth significant effort into improving themself, it will be a man.

[–]Llamada 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always think it's a biological thing, even though we're "modern" we are still have our basic animal behaviour. I mean humans used to be nomads, and when we didn't like a place, we just moved, it went bad, blame the current place and move. But nowadays almost everywhere it's the same, and these people have never been teached any responsibilty, so they will blame their current place, never ever ever themselves.

[–]GrabHerByThePEPE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same with crime and the racist police.

[–]Zemataitais points points [recovered]

I heard another analogy that seemed apt:

Men run a race competing to be first. Women stand at the finish line waiting to fuck the winner. They don't care who it is as long as he is a champion.

You can either bitch about the inherent unfairness in gender dynamics, or strive to be the fucking champion.

[–]HeinousFu_kery 34 points35 points  (4 children)

Or...you can realize that it's just another sales game and you should never enter a sales negotiation you can't walk away from.

So...you're the champion and the women standing there. The real winner is the person who realizes they can take or leave any of them or all of them.

Be the champion by all means, but choose your own prize, otherwise you're just competing for affection and thus pandering to Blue Pill subservience.

[–]Zemataitais points points [recovered]

Obviously its just a metaphor. The point being women don't care who they fuck as long as it's a winner. It also relates to loyalty since they want the end-product but most will not be there with you through the journey to becoming a high SMV man and may branch swing if you lose value. From a man's perspective he should strive to be the best man he can; getting poon at the end is a nice bonus but not the motivating factor.

[–]HeinousFu_kery -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Of course, but one should never lose sight of the concept that women may only see those around them as competition, while a good negotiator/high SMV man will know that they're competing against a whole planet of women and thus defines his own horizons.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Obviously its just a metaphor.

you still framed the metaphor as though men have to jump through hoops for the sake of the women waiting at the end

[–]iSnORtcHuNkz69 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure any girl will drop down on their knees before any man in that race. Let alone all the rest of the females who don't go breeding, left all alone. (that's minimum 4 pussies to one dick.)

[–]flashbang123 38 points39 points  (7 children)

"If I can't be queen, nobody can."

Sounds like AWALT. Well said. Most women don't strive for anything these days, it's sad too as there are a lot of girls out there that would look good, even hot, if they just got off their asses and hit the gym every now and then. If you have time for social media or TV you have time for the gym. Women are self destructing....well, looks like most men are too nowadays....must be a western thing.

[–]eccentricrealist[S] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I think it happens when you grow up being told you're special for any reason, realizing you have to work to earn such a claim is maddening for many.

[–]iceblasta14 12 points13 points  (1 child)

My guess women don't strive for things these days is because most saw their mothers being a stay at home home that got what they wanted because dad was either busting his ass working multiple jobs to support his family or busting his ass working one, well paying, job. The problem is that most women don't see the latter, they just see their mother going out and buying the things that she (the mother) and the kids want with the father's hard earned cash.

I realize this claim is pretty specific to the middle class and up, but when you look at SJWs, who are they made up of?

[–]I_Need_More_Space_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Good observation

The middle class and up are the ones who let feminism happen in the first place.

[–]Acquin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Duuuude so many times I see borderline land whales with at least half decent faces and it pains me seeing their fat rolls below their faces. I know one who is quite fat but for some reason her face is an 8. If only she lost weight... Shame she's a typical self proclaimed victim.

[–]Frenetic_Zetetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"If I can't have/do/be X, nobody can have/do/be X!" should be a goddamn sidebar axiom.

[–]roberthenri 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's because women were never meant to "strive" the way men are wired to. Feminism told them that they need to be out in the work force earning the same as men, instead of striving to become good mothers and play the nurturing, supportive role at home. The fat single feminist epidemic is a direct result of their own ideology destroying the nuclear family ideal, or very thing that would make them happy.

[–]MuhTriggersGuise 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Crabs in a bucket man. One of the most powerful things you can do for yourself is to learn when (and exactly how often) people of low value try to keep anyone else from exceeding (crawling out of the bucket).

I'm not a huge fan of beauty contests etc., but I do know the skills women develop to compete competitively in them are extremely valuable. Crabs trying to deny them the opportunity or benefit in developing these skills literally just want to deny them the ability to excel. The only ability they want individuals to have is not talent, it is the ability to bitch and moan until people give in to shut them up. If that's the only thing allowed, they will excel over all others.

[–]Frenetic_Zetetic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh you lift heavy weights? Well, insert crab jab Oh, you eat well consistently? Well, insert crab jab Oh, you're getting attractive women easily? Well, insert crab jab

[–]RubyOrchid13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just made a ton of money on a car deal this morning. About $2,000 for a half hours work. I told the guy at the desk next to me. Can you guess if his response was positive or negative? Personally, I like to surround my self with successful people, because success breeds more success.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First sign is usually uncertainty towards any proposed action you may be undertaking. The crabs are usually the critics, not the creators. Ignore them.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

I don't see what's so hard with the Barbie aesthetic. How is it unrealistic ( aside from unchangeable things like breast size? Not being fat requires a very simple strategy: eat less. That's it.

[–]yaboimoneymitch 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I can see what alot of them mean; it is literally impossible to look exactly like barbie. The hyperbolic thought they use to justify not putting some effort in is hilarious however.

[–]eccentricrealist[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's simple enough, but if they can't have it, it's unrealistic apparently.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Your title is on the right track; your post is going in lots of fun directions but I get what you're saying. Women have been conditioned to believe everything they do is valuable, even when what they do sucks ass. This is because every effort gets a pat on the head, a gold star, etc.

This used to piss me off but I laugh it off and relish every chance I get to show some know-it-all chick up.

Still, if you put in Star Wars terms, Luke Skywalker had to train, train and train some more and still he got his ass kicked by his Dad the first time. Rey may have fought off scavengers for 20 some odd years, but still the pussypass gave her powers in about a week and the ability to defeat a trained warrior by closing her eyes for 5 seconds. Women never know the struggle. But they will never taste victory over it.

[–]whythecynic 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Men build the fucking mountain. Men after the first scale it, build on it, and proclaim themselves kings on high. Welcome to science.

My field (computer science) was built by women as well, in the days when women built things. Where did those women go?

[–]AwakeningLion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Three words: testosterone equals ambition.

[–]samvimestimes 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Jesus you're all delusional. Go meet people outside the internet and you'll realize there're awesome and lame people on all genders, there're competent and lazy people on all genders. Realize that your mountain of observable facts and rational arguments are nothing short of an extreme case of confirmation bias enabled by browsing solely on certain online chambers. Things like: "AWALT", "most feminist are fat ugly bitter girls", and so on and so forth are massive and blatant generalizations which are immediately called out by anyone with a sufficiently large and diverse social circle. And funnily enough, considering your self-proclaimed objectiveness and rationality, there's a glaring lack any REAL statistical evidence on any of those claims. What happened to the scientific method as the principle of objective study? Ban me if you like.

[–]Tamarin24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We make generalizations because they keep us safe. When we take these concpets, and apply them to the real world, we tend to revert back to our old way of thinking. Without discipline, it can be a struggle to maintain frame. Especially for newbies. It doesn't just apply to the fat girls. It applys to every aspect of life.

[–]dudeguymanthesecond 15 points16 points  (11 children)

Despite the fact that many women sport such a body

I can't tell if you're being serious but they were seriously anatomically impossible. Waists smaller than their heads, and like size 2 feet. There are women that do look more like Barbie (god bless them,) but seriously at least fact check the stuff you bothered to post that is actually objectively checkable and not just some theoretical opinion piece.

[–]eccentricrealist[S] 18 points19 points  (7 children)

You'll have to excuse me, unlike some, I'm not an expert in dolls.

[–]dudeguymanthesecond 26 points27 points  (5 children)

You should at least be knowledgeable about any affirmative claims you choose to make that are objectively falsifiable, considering that in your entire post you made exactly one such claim-and you fucked it up entirely.

Edit: some fragile egos in here

[–]TexasIz4reel 0 points1 point  (3 children)

trust me, men like wide hips, the dolls weren't made for men lol

[–]dudeguymanthesecond 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Men like wide hips in relation to the waist.

[–]TexasIz4reel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

We like things that are attractive. So what?

[–]Themeparkmaker -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's more of an analogy rather than something literal. People will call very achievable body sizes unattainable because they choose not to achieve it. This what OP is referring to and not knowing the exact barbie doll ratio is not something that changes the overall message.

[–]1by1is3 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ok firstly the heads of the barbie dolls are BIG compared to the frame. The figure is not unrealistic, it's the size of the head that's unrealistic. The figure is actually pretty realistic. My LTR has a better figure that Barbie.

[–]oblivioustoobvious 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Question: are there outliers for women that do not fit this mold or are all woman inherently alike by nature?

[–]eccentricrealist[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think there's always a little of envy in everyone but you can tell which women actively work on improving themselves. Sure, AWALT, but that doesn't mean that women are identical, some like fitness and reading, others like to sit back and watch Netflix all day.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's an error of progressive thinking to evaluate women by the same criteria that we evaluate men.

I don't expect the same things from a girl that I expect from a man. I don't need a girl to be a high achiever.

[–]robochickenut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some women are brought up with far, far more discipline than others.

[–]yomo86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For change to happen it needs suffering or some other impulse. As a woman from the age of 15 - 35 you are pretty much the hot commodity. And 20 years of reinforced behavior will not lead you to a conclusion that something is wrong. Leading to miserable human being with the mental age and reflection capacity of a 15yo.

Albeit men on the other hand feel something is wrong because the reinforced behavior does not yield any result.

[–]simakwel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My mother's generation is the last generation of Filipina women to listen to their mother's and grandmother's advice about family, relationships, and education. Everyone after her has been so "modernized" I can often hear older men and women comparing my generation (90's kids) and millennials to their generation (usually with a tone of contempt implying I am one of those degenerates).

My mother grew up as a stoic person who values hard work over appearances, in fact I had been a pussy growing up and she had been calling me out for it.

The difference between my mom and people my age is a proof that feminism and progressivism in general is a sort of Midas touch, only it changes all cultures it touches into shit. I see these things everyday, Filipina women are no different from western women.

[–]dcivera 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Arriba el Norte!

Tec o UDEM?

[–]Vanqhuix[🍰] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Men get jealous

I'm not sure if this is entirely true. Even back when I was blue pill as fuck I didn't really get jealous. I've always just looked up to successful people and strived to be like them. It may just be a personal trait.

[–]Shaman6624 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You may be one of the people with an internal locus of control

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Why so much hate here?

Who gives a shit how or why women or act in the fashion they do.

Be the best human that you can be and stop wasting your time worrying about shit that is irrelevant.

You bring yourself down to the level that the said feminist are on!

And btw, I know plenty of feminist women that love a strong man. You may be surprised to know feminism does not equate to hate for men. They just want to feel empowered. Who doesn't?

[–]tall_bacon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"Empowered" is just feminist/SJW-speak for "privileged". Nice try.

[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why so much hate here?

Because this is a "hate-speech" sub reddit. /s

Who gives a shit how or why women or act in the fashion they do.

Because some of us give a shit about society.

And btw, I know plenty of feminist women that love a strong man.

Who cares? Let them retire to cat farms.

You may be surprised to know feminism does not equate to hate for men.

You did not get the memo. Go look up cultural marxism.

They just want to feel empowered.

Liberalism in a nutshell. And you suckers buy it hook, line and sinker.

[–]Shaman6624 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Well this is a sub about "sexual strategy" I think it's quite relevant to talk aboht why woman do what they do hahah

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Really? I thought this was a sub about being the strongest version of yourself so that others are naturally attracted to you.

[–]Shaman6624 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol well yeah really it's litterally the second sentence in the sidebar. And the two are not mutually exclusive. Being the best version of yourself is also a sexual strategy

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They have beauty pageants for men too, it's called bodybuilding competitions.

Both are voluntary.

If a person of either gender were forced (or even coerced) to participate, a case for sexism could be made.

[–]JFMX1996 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So much easier to blame the society or structure than to admit ones own shortcomings with it. That's what happens when you're ran by emotion rather than logic.

Instead of working hard to get to where one wants to be, the suffering person might resort to pointing fingers and blaming others for their situation.

One is doing shitty? Well, shit, way easier to point fingers at the society than have to take personal responsibility for not improving your standing in terms of wealth or status.

Ugly as fuck? Way easier to point fingers and blame societal standards than work on oneself through exercise, style, and behavior improvement.

Taking personal responsibility is one of the most painful things we have to go through, it sucks admitting one is in his own place because he decided to be. However, that is the moment of truth a man gets the most growth from. If more people did so, I believe we'd have a far more productive world.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally agree. Things really changed for me when I started owning up to my own shit. Was hard at first but like anything it becomes easier over time.

[–]tolerantman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Women are natural socilalists, they praise mediocrity and hate on people who climb to the top (and then they fuck the dudes at the top)