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Rant/VentingWear nice clothes whenever you leave the house. Period. (self.TheRedPill)

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[–]menial_optimist 81 points82 points  (3 children)

Dressing well is good. But don't mistake wearing better clothes as being the better man. Well dressed betas are a dime a dozen. Fashion is an accessory to your frame, not the frame itself.

[–]CQC3 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fashion is interesting, especially considering many guys think it's gay to be fashionable. I think they misunderstand and believe that being fashionable or dressing well means looking like a metrosexual.

The most important part of dressing well is understanding what is a suitable look for you.

[–]bigmfkr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a step. As good as many others.

[–][deleted] 102 points103 points  (13 children)

Who cites Gates, Zuckerberg etc as role-models for fashion? I have never once seen anyone say anything positive about what they wear, beyond "lol square suits rekt by The Zuck in a hoody!"

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    [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    They have more money than 95% of this sub combined will ever have. History will remember their names for millenia. They can do whatever the fuck they please.

    [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (8 children)

    It's easy to dress well in cool climates. Wool trousers don't work in the tropics

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      [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

      Shorts are the mark of a tourist or non professional in both India and Thailand - the best option is black slacks or dress trousers made from light cotton or breathing synthetic fabric.

      It's not impossible, just a pain. And one cannot layer with scarves, vests, or jackets. Guys in cooler places have so many more options :(

      Not to mention, the clothes need to be washed more often because of inevitable sweating,which puts the wear on them

      [–]Avedas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I still wore jeans almost every day in the summer when I was living in Japan. 35+ and 90% humidity. You're going to be hot no matter what you're wearing in that weather so you may as well look decent while you're at it. Light material goes a long way. Plus nobody else there was wearing shorts either.

      [–]GeneralUproar 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      Really? Shorts? What a child.

      [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      If you don't wear shorts here in Arizona you are a moron.

      [–]Rommel0502 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      This is a misconception. If you have to wear long pants (and you should for almost any business situation), wool pants of the correct weight and weave will be cooler than almost any other fabric you can wear, with the sole exception of linen. With that, linen wrinkles so readily you should not wear it for a business purpose.

      Regarding wool - try an open weave like fresco. Nothing cooler in the heat.

      [–]saibot83 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      Exactly. Guys with "FUUUCK YOU!!!" money don't have to give a shit about fashion. Bitches be hurling themselves at them anyhow.

      [–]Rommel0502 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Always better to look good than to look like shit no matter what your station. My opinion anyway.

      [–]kyledontcare 128 points129 points  (9 children)

      No offense but it is my only day off, and I did work out and the sweats and t-shirt are extremely comfy now. And frankly I don't give a crap how people perceive me right now or the rest of the weekend. It's very thereputic. There really does come a point where the opinions of others cease to matter. And in fact clothes are not so cheap, and can even be overrated.

      [–]analyticaltoafault 44 points45 points  (3 children)

      I think this whole main post butts heads with the t shirt test. Jeans and a good T should be fine, comfy and easy, and if one doesn't look good, then they can either get better looking by improving their physique simultaneously improving more aspects of life or taking the time to dress up every time they go. grocery shopping.

      I think the answer should be clear here.

      [–]Boovs4life 8 points9 points  (2 children)

      I remember there was a post on "The T-shirt test" here a couple of weeks ago but it got removed for some reason and i didn't get a chance to finish it. Anybody save it?

      [–]AwakeningLion 23 points24 points  (1 child)

      It basically boiled down to: do you look good in a plain t-shirt? If not then why the fuck not, keep lifting. If yes then awesome, you lifted your ass to swoledom to the point looking good in the plainest of clothes. That's pretty much all it said.

      [–]congratsdoglovers 6 points7 points  (3 children)

      Exactly, besides, sweats and t-shirt doesn't have to look ugly either.

      [–]Trooper_1868 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      Yes, considering you lift, have a decent physique and keep fit, you can pull of sweatpants and a hoodie. I prefer to pick and select tho.

      Wear a hoodie that fits very snug/slim fitting. Sweat pants that are slim at the bottom, and here'e the important bit, make sure your shoes have a mature tone to them. A shade of brown will do, with/without a white bottom and make sure they are well kept/clean. Also color coordination is key here.

      I wore this yesterday. Maroon sweatpants, light grey fitted hoodie and these brown Fred Perry shoes. I say Fred Perry, because you could google what I mean, if you want. Although this was only to pop down to the local restaurant for a quick bite. No chance of seeing anyone I know, but you have look coordinated. Something I did not do in university sadly. Would never wear this to the Mall tho, because we know people and its not the best image. Right now I am not just me, but an extension of my father, so I dress as such.

      [–]synkangura 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      This actually sounds like a very ugly outfit

      [–]Trooper_1868 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Everything is ugly if your a fat slob. I am not.

      Its also color coordinated if you took more than a second to actually think about it.

      Good day.

      [–]asotranq 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      This is for unfit people that refuse to fix their horrific body, if you're lean and muscular you'll look good in almost anything, don't worry about it

      [–]Rommel0502 105 points106 points  (17 children)

      A lot of guys here lament the days of their grandfathers - when men were men.

      The first thing you can do is start dressing like him. Guy probably never left the house without looking like a million bucks.

      Edit - if I can add one more thing. When I was an young analyst on the Street, a good looking admin gave me some of the best advice a woman has ever given me. We somehow stumbled onto the topic of suits, and she said to me "Suits are our lingerie. Purchase accordingly." I was a bit surprised thinking at the time they were just uniforms for white collar business. She continued - "No woman ever looks longingly at a guy and says - "Wow - he sure looks comfortable in those sweatshirt and jeans." No matter what a woman says, the fact is we ALL love men in nice suits. Its the modern day armor. Today, almost all important decisions are made by a man with a tie around his neck."

      I was in my early 20s at the time, and she was about 30. I never forgot her advice, and now at 48 I found it some of the best and truest I've ever received.

      I recall some months ago another member asking me to do a post on suits - purchasing, fit, style, etc. Alas, I haven't followed up on that yet, but given this thread perhaps I should get on the stick ...

      [–]trpadvice 15 points16 points  (0 children)

      EDIT : Guy probably never left the house without looking like a million bucks

      For anybody who might misread your advice, /u/Rommel0502

      [–]1StoicCrane 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Went to visit my granfather today at his house. In his pajamas the man matched a royal blue robe with a light charcoal fleece silveresqe sweatshirt and sleek black slippers to boot. Dressed like a King! Your post is truer than you know.

      [–]thetraveler7478 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      You've decided to be a bum, Jules. A bum.

      [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (6 children)

      It was socially unacceptable to look like a slob.

      Now when I go to get a haircut or run errands sure I'm wearing a t shirt and jeans or shorts and sandals or some shit.

      But when I go out I throw on a jacket and well fitting jeans or an Oxford and shorts or something.

      It really isn't that hard.

      (BTW I'm in az right now so I'm going out in a bit in a blue shirt and shorts and sandals because it's like 85 degrees)

      [–]nbom 0 points1 point  (5 children)

      85 degrees is sauna man :P

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      85 in dry heat is perfect. It's like 72 on the east coast.

      [–]HobbesTheBrave -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

      If you're counting in celsius, it's still a warm room. Sauna begins at 90 degrees celsius.

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      Water boils at 100 Celsius and freezes at 0 Celsius and body temperature is 36.6 Celsius you uneducated bellend.

      [–]DF-RP -1 points0 points  (1 child)

      No, you are missing the joke, dear uneducated bellend. He is saying that at 85 degrees celcius, it's not hot enough to be called a real sauna. Which is true. For example, the world sauna championship used starting temperature of 110 celsius.

      [–]1OneRedYear 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      I hate wearing ties. Feels like a fucking noose.

      [–]Rommel0502 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Don't wear them so tight, and make sure your collar fits correctly. Most often these days, guys wear collars that are too tight for them and therein lies the problem. Give it a try my friend and you may be surprised.

      On a related note, never forget a tie is an arrow to your cock ...

      [–]1RXRob 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Most of my elder male customers never come in without a shirt and tie on. I sell petrol

      [–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (6 children)

      For sure this makes sense. Not a one size fits all. I'm working on getting out of a large debt and can spare a few years of looking good in terms of clothes.

      [–]PatsFever 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Half of fashion is physique anyway. When I'm in great shape I can pull off the casual sweats look, when I'm out of shape the same clothes can scream bum.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      can confirm: I typically wear a fleece, khakis, and a camoflauge hat - and I actually do notice sometimes that many homeless people have the exact same fashion sense - but when I'm fit (which I currently am) women seem to judge me as "ruggedly handsome". I've had no problem running day game when I'm out running errands in the evenings and weekends since I've been back in the gym.

      Also, if you dress well, women will expect you to always dress well, and be fashionable - and it can turn into a money hole. Also, I find that dressing well lures in gold digging types. I think there is a kind of "beta" style that says "I am stable and have my life together" that is attractive to women. Particularly true if you cultivate masculine virtues. The only downside is that Asians, if you're into them, are not into guys that are low key in terms of style. When I decided that I was spending too much on clothes and that I should tone things down, and started toning up the "redneck" aspects of my life - I noticed that attention from Asian women pretty much ended overnight, and attention from non-Asians ramped up. Interesting how that worked out. I think there are differences in the mating strategies between the races, but I'm not expert on that.

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        [–]Enlightened_Chimp 16 points17 points  (1 child)

        Wearing Yeezys and Armani to a movie is what you think dressing well is?

        [–]Canedude08 6 points7 points  (3 children)

        There's a difference between running errands in a nice pair of shorts, a nice tee and sneakers, and being a try hard that thinks that going to Home Depot requires you to dress like its casual day at work. Then again, the RPers that feel the need to lecture other grown men about how to manage their lives are mostly pseudo-alphas that don't know diddly squat about anything. Dress for comfort, always be clean and well groomed, and dress appropriately for what you are doing. If you are going to a dive bar, don't be the dumbass in a three piece suit, unless you just showed up from work. If you are going to a nice steakhouse, don't be the idiot that wears flip-flops. Context. It's important.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        Exactly. Many times, a polo shirt or an untucked casual button down with well fitting jeans or other pants will make you look good and can be worn in many different types of places.

        Polo shirts are very versatile and can be worn casual or tuck it in with chinos or dress pants for a slightly more formal setting.

        [–]RedWinter88 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        White polo, khaki pants, sperry boat shoes - the ultimate do anything summer related outfit

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I absolutely LOVE boat shoes. Can be worn anytime of year, except winter. Can be worn with shorts, pants, casual, going out, and many other times.

        Definitely agree on the polo, khaki pants and boat shoes. Very versatile and can be worn to so many places and you won't look out of place. Whether hanging out with friends, going to some dive bar, a more formal club or an outdoor event.

        Just make sure that you are using foot powder when wearing boat shoes.

        [–]aanarchist 66 points67 points  (6 children)

        alpha is as alpha does, betas follow the rules of others. the only person you have to impress is yourself. you're still stuck in a beta supplication mindset. not saying you should be a slob like i dress well too when i want to, but the idea that you're not allowed to wear your choice of clothes because you have to impress others is some bitch shit.

        [–]lancer000 7 points8 points  (1 child)

        I mean, isn't that what women do all the time? Spend hours just putting on a bloody dress?

        [–]aanarchist 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Lol I didn't think of that but yes you are correct. Wait til some idiot advocates makeup to raise your face smv. Some people trade in the blue pill for a red candy coated red pill, and stay beta slaves.

        [–]Rommel0502 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Like it or not, your dress frames how others perceive you. Go ahead and show up to a Wall St dog and pony show with a t-shirt on and see how that goes. I don't care how much money you have, how built you are, or how alpha you think you are, there is not a single person in the room who will take you seriously or think you are not a jackass.

        Not caring about how your clothes effect others perception of you is absolutely no different than not caring how your physique effects others perception of you. Both are visual ques of how you take care of yourself and your attention to how you present yourself.

        I find a lot of guys here confuse the use of the "I don't give a fuck attitude." That attitude is correctly applied regarding abundance relative to women and avoiding oneitis. It is most definitely not applicable in regards to how you present and take care of yourself. If that was the case, then men could take an "IDGAF" attitude to everything - just think how IDGAF you'd look being 350 lbs and playing video games all day. Alas, those guys don't get very many women ...

        [–]bigmfkr 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        That's how heroin junkies think while lying in a gutter. You can impress yourself all you want. Thing is, you live in a society, and unless you have all the money and power in the world, your life is very influenced by what people think of you. By what impressions you make.

        [–]thewrecker8 12 points13 points  (3 children)

        Billionaires can dress how they want BECAUSE they're billionaires. They can dress like a slouch and still be wearing a watch that costs more than most people's cars. And most billionaires are known because of their status either through media or just their social circle. So yeah they can be wearing a pair a jeans and a white undershirt. But they can also have a wardrobe of custom made suits that cost thousands of dollars. They don't NEED to dress to impress if they don't feel like it. Because they can put most flashy dressers and people trying to show their status in their pocket.

        [–]Burrows94 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Humans can dress how they want BECAUSE they're humans.

        [–]giantsrocker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Also wealthy people wearing expensive stuff won't be remembered altho if they dress like hobos, thats something for the peasants chatter.

        [–]1dongpal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        they dont need to impress because they already impressed the people by success

        [–]1Your_Coke_Dealer 11 points12 points  (2 children)

        Dress like you're about to meet the guy offering you your next job. Or like you're about to strike up a conversation with a supermodel today while you're out buying coffee. Get the picture?

        Now you don't need to spend a lot to look good. Don't worry about what's the newest look, it's about looking clean. Guys have plenty of timeless and simple looks, so you can leave streetwear alone. Shop clearance, or hell, shop at Goodwill. Also, see the t-shirt test: of course don't always wear just a plain t-shirt, but the principle of keeping it simple and wearing clothes to fit your body applies

        [–]1StoicCrane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        A well fitted wardrobe of V-necks, solid colored crews, polos, and henleys can go a long way.

        [–]orangatang_blanket 10 points11 points  (5 children)

        I disagree. I used to dress all preppy all the time like khakis and nice shirts, boat shoes etc. But now I tend to give less of a shit and wear things like shorts rosche runs and a t shirt on my personal time cause why do I need to impress anyone when I'm going to the grocery store or the mall? it's more comfortable and tbh I found it makes me more approachable because I don't seem like a stuck up douche who's trying to impress people all the time. As long as you're not ugly as a brick I see nothing wrong with sporting some athletic clothes in warm weather when you're just running errands...

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          [–]orangatang_blanket 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          I buy the majority of my clothes at tj maxx and marshalls. occasionally i'll shop at salvation army for some skiing sweatshirts as they're extremely cheap. I mainly wear nike and reebok shorts (reebok usually dont have logo's on them and come in slim sizes). T shirts basically just nike, polo, tommy H pretty basic shit for me I don't wear stuff with too much design besides a small logo/emblem.

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            [–]orangatang_blanket 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            vineyardvines, tommy H, polo, etc.

            [–]XZTALVENARNZEGOMSAYT 4 points5 points  (3 children)

            What kind of clothes gave you guys the most compliments from girls? I know they check out shoes a whole lot.

            [–]lancer000 1 point2 points  (2 children)

            What kind of clothes gave you guys the most compliments from girls?

            Black shirt folded sleeves, brown trousers, sleek black formal shoes & a Rolex watch (Oyster Perpetual) is what made women crowd me and keep pestering me about the time.

            [–]XZTALVENARNZEGOMSAYT 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Bro they fucking love black.

            [–]lancer000 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            That's not the only Black thing on me :)

            [–]1scissor_me_timbers00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Gates and zuckerberg sport aspbergers chic

            [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            Never once have I heard anyone, in real life or on the internet, hold up any business figure as a fashion role model - most of the ones you're holding up as examples are practically old men!

            This reads like an opinion piece from MensFitness or somewhere

            [–]jeff_vii 8 points9 points  (2 children)

            I keep seeing the whole 'alpha doesn't need validation can wear what he wants' bullshit. Shut the fuck up. You gain confidence from looking good. Your interactions with people and respect levels are higher. Would you respect or admire someone who doesn't respect how they look?

            Alpha or not your environment and how you shape it affects your mindset. The very same for the principle of surrounding yourself with those who you want to be like. Irrespective of how you direct your own mindset, these factors all have an affect. It's dependent on the person to what extent that effect is.

            [–]1OneRedYear -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

            Bitch I look good in what ever I wear. I'm fucking awesome. Ugly fucks like you gotta gear up to step out.

            [–]Rommel0502 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I truly hope you're kidding because if you're not you sound insecure (and uneducated) as shit.

            [–]Shukakun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I'm currently t-shirt & jeans (black ones at least, but still) & sneakers scum, looking to change that at least somewhat, probably gradually, I imagine a good look is expensive. Are there any forums, faqs, guides, infographics and so on on how to develop a good sense of style as a man?

            [–]BobbyPeru 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            This is some beta BS. Well fitting, fresh clothes that show off your best features is what gets tingles.

            [–]notadaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            this. nothing looks better than just being fit and have a great posture. you can wear sweatpants and a white t-shirt and look good.

            [–]blackedoutfast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            extremely rich/successful/famous guys can dress like slobs because it's countersignalling. simplify it and pretend there are only three wealth status categories: homeless, average, and rich as fuck.

            dressing well is a signifier for having a decent amount of money and dressing like a slob is a signifier for not having much money. a guy who is truly in the average category needs to dress well so people will know he is in the average category. if he dresses like a homeless bum, people will assume he actually is a homeless bum.

            BUT guys like bill gates are known for being extremely wealthy. those guys can distinguish themselves from average guys by countersignalling. if there's some event with a lot of mid-level executive type guys wearing suits and then bill gates walks on stage wearing a stained, ripped hoody, but no one is going to think he's dressed like crap because he can't afford decent clothes. super rich super poweful guys can use countersignalling to distinguish themselves from all the average guys and lower level managers wearing suits.

            it's the same reason that super alpha Chad type guys can get away with a lot of stereotypical nerdy or very lame omega type behaviors and activities. for example: terry crews is apparently really into playing video games. but he is a super jacked former nfl player and a famous actor. he can nerd out about video games but no one is going to think he is a lame incel omega loser. but if a more average guy starts talking about videya games and the new gaming pc he just built, everyone will just assume he is a nerd.

            [–]RoteTablette 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Went to a casual venue the other day and was in a hurry coming from work so showed up with suit - totally overdressed for the event.

            Without any effort got to know 2 attractive women and got lots of IOIs from others as well.

            I wasn't up for something and maybe this boosted my confidence / killed any signs of neediness. But I can't deny how important it is to dress well.

            I think that this just activates mechanics of hypergamy and you should not fool yourself by showering in validation.

            It just works - use it or leave it.

            [–]helgisson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I had a girl I was fucking straight up tell me I "always have the best clothes." Most of the guys in our overlapping social circles were lazy when it came to fashion, so by putting in a basic amount of effort I already stood out. It's absolutely one of the easiest ways to increase your SMV and self-esteem.

            [–]Jf5ve 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            There is a stark contrast between dressing well to impress others and dressing well to impress yourself.

            To me the difference is that when you dress to impress others you are not being true to yourself and shows a lack of confidence and this shows through to women. When you dress to impress yourself, you show a different side of you. The confidence you have when you dress how you want shows.

            The top things I have noticed in the way I dress that changes how others perceive me is that when I'm comfortable I walk better, I have better posture, I smile more though very subtly. And shoes, wear ones you like but those dress shoes that are beat to shit or skate shoes that are discoloured and worn out, get a new pair already. They are great if you need to throw something on to paint or do some home renovations ( though get a pair of work boots for that) but when going out to meet a girl, wear nice clean comfortable shoes.

            My style is terrible. I love a pair of camo pants or shorts and a tight t (usually too tight as I love under armour compression shirts) and a pair of all black DC shoes. Every fucking time I'm wearing a shirt like that some girl always has to come up and say about how my shirt is too tight. Every fucking time and I love it. Used to have long hair in my early 20's, down past my shoulders when straight but it's quite curly. I always had girls come up and run their fingers through my hair. I looked like a bump, seriously, think black t camo cargos a big beard long curly hair and I'm not tall but I loved the way I looked. Felt amazing and the look on faces when you walk in a room and throw your head back in an over exaggerated head banging motion to clear the hair from my face. Yes I stood out, I bet I looked funny as shit to some but I felt great and that was all the difference in how I held myself.

            I'm rambling here and probably off on a tangent but my point is make yourself feel great. Do it for yourself. We are not the approval seeking women. Do you honestly care what someone thinks of how you look when you feel great? Yes? You're not ready yet.

            [–]5t3fan0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            FIT MATTERS, MAKE FRIEND WITH A TAILOR

            [–]JohnnySkidmarx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I'm a beach bum from SoCal, decent looking, good shape. I prefer shorts and flip flops to a suit. A lot of guys I know dress real casual as well. I will tell you that I get 10x the looks from women when I wear a suit. A suit shows them power/success, even if you aren't successful.

            [–]Katavasis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I am wondering why Bill Gates does not wear brand suits or brand shirts...

            Can you guess?

            [–]MrAcceleration 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            This sounds like you just pretend to have money. For that matter I could dress MODERATELY nice...like twenty or thirty dollars for a nice pair of cackies and casual Friday shirt at walmart nice.

            Then just stuff 20s in my wallet and because it's a swoll as wallet it tricks the brain into thinking "that fucker has a lot of carry around money."

            I buy an energy drink and 3DS game with my assloads of cash, a woman falls for it thinking I'm a beta bucks, I tell her to keep a secret that I'm a drug dealer, fuck her that night cause now I'm a Chad. Tada!

            I took your plan.

            I perfected it.

            And still cannot find the algorithm where women are worth a shit and why I'm doing any of this.

            [–]1RXRob 3 points4 points  (1 child)

            Every time you leave the house you risk meeting the love of your life. Dress like it

            [–]TheEagleAndTheSnake 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            That golden retriever will already have an owner. Focus on yourself.

            [–]ohyeawellyousuck 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            Dude. If I'm running to the corner store for a rock star, I'm wearing fucking sweat pants. I don't give a fuck what people are thinking when they see me. Fuck them. I'm comfortable. It's Saturday.

            Fuck you

            [–]DouglasPR 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I'm from south america, where nice clothes are expensive. Still I manage to follow OP suggestion to dress well always. When I visit the US I was appauled by the ragged way most guys dressed, sweatpants, baggy jeans, old decaying tennis shoes, the kind you can get a brand new one in walmart for $15.

            [–]exxxcited 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I cant believe all the negative responses, if all the slobs below me tried to put on a dress shirt with a formal black jacket theyll see how the world changes, dressing really slick screams power/ambition/money/confidence etc, dont be a tryhard but the fact that you feel "comfy" with cargo pants doesnt mean you dont miss out on so much by doing so.

            [–]chambertlo 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            My mom has been telling me this for years. A man is judged mostly by his appearance, and looking bummie and unkempt is the first sign that you don't have your shit together. Invest in a decent wardrobe and even if you are just going to the gym, make sure you are dressed to impress.

            I make sure to always look my best when I leave the house, so much so that the dude at the front desk of my gym said, "You are one of he only dudes I see coming in here that always looks fresh." People notice decent clothes, and the attitudes around you will change dramatically when people realize that you care about your appearance. Too many men walk around looking like they live under a bridge and it has got to stop. Have respect for yourself and pay attention to what you wear and how you wear it.

            [–]Canedude08 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            People that take the gym somewhat seriously treat it as WORKING, and dress like they are going to do damage, not a fashion show. I'm going to play basketball for 3+ hours, I'm probably going to have my shirt ripped somewhat, why would I wear expensive stuff, knowing full well things happen? The only nice thing I wear to the gym is my sneakers, because protecting my feet and knees are important. This entire thread is an exercise in try hards jerking themselves off.

            [–]DarkRenaissance 0 points1 point  (4 children)

            Extremely important, good tip. I noticed this back in college myself.

            Also, If you wear spectacles, buy lenses or get laser surgery done. Wearing specs devalues you by showing your weakness to the world. That's why when girls wear them, they're cute(because for girls vulnerability is a virtue, not for guys). No matter how good they look, they also obscure your face.

            [–]fudluck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            My view is that they add symmetry to someone's face. I personally don't see them as a sign of weakness.

            [–]DouglasPR 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            I took care of the glasses issue having them rimless, very discreet and fancy. I get compliments on it, its like an accessory. There is a way for everything, we just must apply harder

            [–]DarkRenaissance 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Could be. For me the difference was like night and day.

            [–]DouglasPR 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            In my case surgery would not eliminate glasses, so, I deal with it. Most chicks dont mind my glasses

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            [–]Rommel0502 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            And homophobic comments are typically made by closet homosexuals ...

            [–]ajbrooks192 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            In regards to the face and shoes, can anyone recommend what the fuck kind of shoes you are supposed to wear as a 23 year old? I feel like things like addidas/Nike sneakers are too childish but formal shoes too formal/wanky!

            [–]8last 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Probably Sperry or Toms if you're out and about. Take that with a grain of salt because I'll wear flip flops on a dinner date and my girl hates it.

            [–]tonylokred 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I don't know what is your style like, I'm a fit 24 yrs old and i wear these sneakers and these boots on my daily basis, with black jeans, a simple grey t-shirt and this watch as accessory

            [–]vorverk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            One note. Pick a style that suits you and fits what you're doing. You don't need a black tie dress when going to wallmart. Overdressing can raise eyebrows.

            Casual can look good and is many times harder to make it look you just "threw something on yourself" and look good. Make sure your clothes fit, they're clean, you're groomed and that you're dressed for the occasion.

            There was a guy that wore a tie where I used to work, while everybody else was wearing hoodies. He looked weird.

            [–]wartorle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Internal confidence provided when you know you look good - is priceless.

            also I agree, with cheap ness. There are loads of non label clothes which look good. If you want a label buy last seasons brands - people will still think you are rich

            for me I dont go for brands, just clothes which look good on me

            [–]1whatsazipper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            However, dressing to impress also depends on who you want to impress and with what style. How I dress myself for leisure is intentionally designed to convey something of my character as well as fit nicely so as to also demonstrate that I take good care of my body.

            [–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            The subreddit malefashionadvice is a good jumping off point for guys that know nothing about fashion.

            [–]Rosace_89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Is there some ressources for basic fashion please? for ex. what different colors we can put and cannot put together?

            [–]prodigy2throw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            The only people who don't need to dress well when they leave is people who don't need to introduce themselves.

            [–]GOATmar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            If you have a fit body, anything you wear will be classified as Nice Clothes.

            Get ripped, throw on a T and and some sweatpants, and youll be lusted after.

            Few Know This

            [–]r6_rider 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I don't necessarily agree with this 100%, but it reminds me of an old saying I learned. "When you look good, you feel good. When you feel good, you do good. When you do good, you keep doing good. Over, and over, and over." (Don't mind the grammer, it's just a saying.)

            [–]chinawinsworlds 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Also, dress for your age, culture and so on. Sure, I could wear a suit every day, but I'd just feel like a jackass (and be looked at as one), because I am 18 in a Norwegian city. I never see people in suits here, so it'd just make me seem like a weirdo. So dress according to the situation you're in!

            [–]cashmoney_x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Sure, if you're still playing the monkey dance.

            [–]RedPillWintergreen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            All the rage amongst young people these days is "flash fashion". Does anyone have knowledge about that?

            [–]looptyparadise 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Don't forget that dressing doesn't mean the same as dressing up.

            [–]PurpleDrank88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Look good feel good. Feel good play good

            [–]JFMX1996 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I agree with everything you said.

            However I do want to say not to be ashamed of just going out, you don't want to be like a female who can't go out unless they've taken a shower, dressed up, done their hair, etc. every single time.

            There's been times when I've had to go to the bank after working outdoors all day because I wouldn't make it in time to go home and shower.

            Or I've also stopped by a store and gotten a girls number when I when I was helping a friend get parts from a pick-n-pull before.

            Carry yourself with self-respect by dressing decently and carrying yourself well but just don't be like a woman with it.

            [–]mesershmit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            This is something i can relate to for more than 15 years and i am 30 now. In my late teens i threw all my shit and used only pants,jeans,so-so stylish shirts,thin leather jackets and other stuff even to the grorcery which is 2 mins away.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            You definitely feel better/more confident when you are dressed well, also. Even if it's a simple t-shirt and jeans, you know when you look good, and so does everybody else.

            [–]Koryphae_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            First of all, if you lived in a big city I can kinda relate to the OP, for example when you are running errands whole day, you surely want to look nice. But when you literally run across the street to get X from grocery store, I do not see the actual point dressing yourself up for a 5 minute trip. It is not efficient.

            What I actually think is that this rule should not be followed so religiously, rather than following it with a slight additional clause which goes as follows: "when you expect a non-casual social interaction".

            [–]Mescuzzi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I wear a basic t-shirt 95% of the time when I'm not at work, black jeans, and a pair of black van's slip-ons. I can pull this off because I have the physique to back it up.

            Put some effort into that shit, impress others

            I don't frankly give a shit about impressing others. Do what's best for your own interest, even if that is "sweats and a stained shirt" ... rock the fuck outta that bitch

            [–]ThroatPoka -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

            There's a difference between dressing well and knowing how to throw an outfit together. I'd never wear sweats to an interview, but I would, and I have, worn them to clubs/bars. Pair of sweats, nice sneakers, tight t-shirt or hoodie, a baseball cap, and diamond studs in each ear gives off a very nice and relaxed vibe, and I personally look fresh as fuck when I rock this look. It's also about your swag too, it accentuates the look - nobody can teach you your swag.

            You can definitely dress down without sacrificing style, cuz I'll be damned if I'm gonna throw on my nice jeans, Italian boots, and leather jacket every time I need to run errands.

            Wear what you want and don't give a fuck about it, just understand that if you look like a complete bum, people will most likely avoid you.