Red Pill TheoryBuying presents for a bitch is like buying chocolate cake for a fat kid (self.TheRedPill)

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Really the title says it all but I will break it down a bit further. Here is a list of good reasons why you do not buy presents for bitches:

  1. she doesn't deserve it
  2. you cannot negotiate attraction
  3. It identifies you as a beta provider
  4. she doesn't deserve it
  5. It sets up expectations of future gifts
  6. It plays to the blue pill narrative
  7. It is gynocentric
  8. she does not deserve it
  9. you are better off spending on you
  10. it inflates her already huge ego
  11. she doesn't need it
  12. you are trading cash for sex
  13. she loses some respect for you
  14. she does not deserve it

I could go on, but I am sure that you get the idea. Women are inherently lazy, selfish creatures who will take advantage of you and manipulate you whenever they get the chance. Esther Vilar in her wonderful book "The Manipulated Man" makes it clear that women use gifts and shopping as a form of manipulation. Indulging women in their love of pointless trinkets like Louis Vuitton bags is just feeding the corporate beast which enslaves you and it is worse than giving cake to a fat kid. Giving gifts to a woman is like throwing logs onto a fire, it just makes her voracious and bottomless appetite for attention worse.

So stop propagating a culture of consumption which is inherently gynoc

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[–][deleted] 88 points89 points  (14 children)

Like you said, you bought that for you, not her. I also think dildos, lube and massage oil are acceptable gifts. Slutty clothes, haha, have an upvote

[–]Burlaczech 22 points23 points  (11 children)

eh, dildo for myself? Me, Myself & Irene flashbacks

[–]TRPTosser 16 points17 points  (8 children)

I bought a girl a leash once. Went over well.

[–][deleted] 51 points52 points  (4 children)

my friend told me a story about a leash and collar he bought as gift for a girl once. He intended it to be for her large dog. He was surprised when she put it on herself.

[–]TRPTosser 40 points41 points  (1 child)

Bitches love going for walks.

[–]Burlaczech 6 points7 points  (0 children)

you two made me spit water on my keyboard. co-worker didnt like that view apparently

[–]aDrunkenWhaler 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I got one from a pet store, along with a rubber bone. I literraly threw it for her to crawl on 4 legs and bring it back. Used it as a dildo as well but wasn't that great. Nevertheless, the cheapest sex toys I ever bought. I still use the leash and collar.

[–]Burlaczech 10 points11 points  (0 children)

not the knowledge I came for, but the knowledge I appreciate

[–]NibblyPig 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The dildo's for her. The lube is for you.


[–]mikazee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's getting pegged now? I mean if that's what he wants I won't judge.

[–]-uftw- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dildos are "trendy" gifts right now but they are not acceptable gifts. They make pussies loose and render women insensitive to sex. If she wants release she should be seeking you out, not a fucking vibrator.

[–]DarkRenaissance 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Beautiful title, worth remembering.

[–]I_AM_CALAMITY 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Greatest title I've seen probably

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (40 children)

Women buy me presents, I ask them to do it and they are so pleased. Even if they dont actually buy anything they respect that I asked

Same look on their face as when my daughter draws me a picture and asks me to bring it to work

[–]TheRedStoic 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I've noticed that too. Most of my girls give gifts and pride themselves in "knowing what I want". I think my mother is probably the only girl I've ever given actual gifts meant for her, then again my family doesn't do the gift thing often.

They're good girls.

Edit: wait not exactly true, I have paid for a girls gym membership before. But she paid me back. Is that a gift? Probably just a loan.

[–]Pepe_Prime 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nice. Reminds me of something I read once about persuasion, in which asking someone to do a small favor for you will often make them like you more than if you had done a favor for them.

And on the topic of gift-giving...brought a handmade gift to a girl I was seeing on Valentine's Day, she then broke up with me that night.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (22 children)

I have not managed to flip the script that much myself. I have told girls that for our first date I would come to her place and she could cook me dinner.

[–]twatbutters 35 points36 points  (19 children)

she could cook me dinner.

That would be a miracle nowadays. Most bimbos don't even know how to cook anything beyond the simplest, blandest shit.

[–]1OneRedSock 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Most bimbos don't even know how to cook


I had a hookup back in December who couldn't properly cook mac n cheese from a box. She then laughed about how she was "playing such a good housewife" -- bitch, you can't even follow 4 simple steps. Her dream job: being the editor of a feminist magazine.

Yeah, she was hot. No, I don't play with that kind of fire anymore. Those kinds of feminists are dangerous territory, since they're so keen on spotting men as rapists.

[–]theONE843663 21 points22 points  (15 children)

It's crazy man. I can cook way better than these hoes. But still somehow my mother does it better lol. Gotta hand it​ old school women for giving a fuck.

[–]twatbutters 12 points13 points  (13 children)

That's the natural order of things. Women are the primary cooks of the house. Sure it's good to know how to cook as a guy to be independent and to help out every now and then, but oldschool women new their place in the kitchen.

No wonder so much of the modern male population is fat. They eat out often because their women can't cook.

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[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

150 years ago women did physical work. They carried water and firewood, cooking over an open hearth that had to be tended all day. They physically scrubbed clothes.

Now we have indoor plumbing, central heat, stoves and washing machines. Household chores are nothing

[–]1OneRedYear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah...see it's men's fault. We put them out of a job by inventing all of these things to make their jobs easier. It got so easy they got bored and became feminist and went after our jobs. It's always the man's fault. /s

[–]twatbutters 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's another bargaining chip in securing a relationship that women have lost due to their stupidity and laziness.

It doesn't matter that they've lost it. Men are more sexually desperate than ever given the profundity of beta males willing to give up their left nut to be with a used up slut.

[–]theONE843663 -3 points-2 points  (8 children)

Exactly man. Chores are so simple and yet bitches suck at that too. Even most top chefs are men. The only thing that men can't do that a woman can is give birth. Even manipulation men can do better if they learn how to. Women just suck they're parasites. Useless beings other than giving birth and getting fucked.

It's a shame that straight men have to fuck them. I'm bisexual lol so I can manage with a cross dressing faggot... But not all guys have this ability to fuck ass to get rid of pent up sexual energy man I feel for my 100% str8 brethren their lives are such difficulty.

[–]twatbutters 4 points5 points  (7 children)

Sorry to say it, but you sound foolish. Men aren't better than women-- that's just a stupid thing to imply. People vary; sure, AWALT, but there are genuinely talented women out there.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I agree with your general premise that men are not "better" than women but then you said "there are genuinely talented women out there". Sure there is but they cannot compete with talented men. All of the worlds greatest: inventors, philosophers, scientists, intellectuals and artists are men. Women invent nothing, have no philosophy and simply imitate men. Having said that they are more nurturing, they give birth, they are less likely to be thugs, paedophiles, murderers or warmongers. So yes, men are not "better" than women, but we are extremely different. It's apples and oranges.

[–]theONE843663 3 points4 points  (4 children)

And there are also genuinely talented men. Anything women are good at, another man is better than them at that thing. Men are better than women that's fact. More men are better than women at more things than women are better than men. That's a fact aswell. Don't debate facts.

Anything a woman can do (save for childbirth), a man can do better. Both physically and intellectually.

[–]twatbutters 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Anything a woman can do (save for childbirth), a man can do better. Both physically and intellectually.

You sound like a ten year old when you say this.

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[–]assured_destruction 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My wife regularly says, "it has to be done, the timer went off" Dumb as fuck, but even lazier. Even her kids say so.

[–]Hviterev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah no. I do the cooking. Haven't met more than two girls who knew how to cook decently.

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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (7 children)

Women arent evil, they just need a mans guidance and today has few strong men up for the job.

It took me some time but it isnt women who wronged me but society which foisted inaccurate expectations of what women ACTUALLY are.

My daughter is incredible and raising her right is a big part of my mission

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

interesting rant

i dont want my daughter to end up with a good guy. i want her to end up with a strong guy with paternal instincts.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I came here with the same problems after my oneitis. I was being too slow so she went and lost her V elsewhere. She still wanted me but disgusted I cut contact. Point is I came here and realised I was in the wrong for having incorrect expectations. No one had told me and I'd never had the chance to learn myself by my age like most people due to social seclusion.

You just have to get over that shit and make the most of your opportunities. I can't imagine ever taking an 8 home; I bet you'll regret not taking opportunities right in front of you once you've been forced to fully swallow the pill. You're lucky to be here and be aware of the truth with some big players. Don't fight what's going on but instead 'enjoy the decline'.

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[–]1empatheticapathetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you think this whole forum is about? Do you think you're the only one unhappy? You adapt or die, and most guys here have more or less nearly or successfully adapted whether they were happy about it or not. I'm still working on it but I've internalised the reality of the SMP at least. You sound angry, I don't know how that will pay off for you.

[–]SovereignSoul76 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1) Nobody like's a whiner. 2) There's a lot of room between being milquetoast, and getting thrown into the back of a squad car for assault. 3) "Then what's the point of fucking living?" ...nobody here can answer that for you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Sounds like the same autistic shit I see SJWs say about men

[–]sumethreuaweiei points points [recovered]

Wanting a daughter who'll only grow up to get railed on the weekends is fucked. Unless you want to homeschool university or brainwash her into a nun

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (3 children)

I feel like the only guys who say this are people who don't get enough sex in their own lives and therefor probject their insecurities onto women who find sex easily. Women like sex. Women like to fuck guys. These facts should encourage you. Stop being a whiny pussy.

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We're talking about your daughter, not some club slut. They like to fuck around but it damages them in the process. It's like being okay with letting your son get a drug addiction because "drugs make them feel good" or tobacco addiction "tobacco calms him down." On a lower level, porn, because "urges are natural."

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Most women don't sleep around. That's a factual statement.

Even if women do sleep around, it isn't a guarantee they will be damaged, and in fact those who are damaged already tend to sleep around, hence where the stereotype comes from. It's correlation, not causation.

[–]SirByron 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Men sell...

Men invent, create, produce, farm, manufacture, design, market, sell.


[–]RichieFinn 40 points41 points  (9 children)

Meh, disagree, girl im seeing spent a lot of money on an expensive enough cologne set for my birthday having known me less than a month so she gets something nice in return on days that matter.

[–]Adam1394 47 points48 points  (2 children)

It's transaction then, not present.

[–]RichieFinn 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah his disclaimer coming after his 15 points of why you are a loser if you buy presents for bitches threw me off.

[–]p3n1x 11 points12 points  (0 children)

15 points of why you are a loser

No, you went there, not OP. Think about why you equated the post like that for a second.

OP did an amazing job of explaining how purchasing pussy usually ends up with the guy wrecked, low on resources and the chick indifferent.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I still resist feeding their materialism. Use those resources to take them on an adventure instead.

[–]asotranq 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is different to the point op made, op was referring to guys who give girls gifts just for being with them with nothing in return except their presence, which will be irreparable damage to a girls ego

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Did you read the exception? If she buys you stuff, you reciprocate

[–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (1 child)

girl im seeing spent a lot of money on an expensive enough cologne

Cologne you already use? Or something she picked out?

[–]akatsukirp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On the days that matter keep it really simple, it could be your time, a small gift, don't give her something really expensive or tons of gifts. keep it mysterious, keep it simple and make sure she earns it not just because she gave you someone expensive months ago.

[–]1SuperStalin 9 points10 points  (1 child)

absolutely true. Whenever I bought a gift for a girlfriend, I'd start to feel a shift in the balance against me.

Whenever I forget this rule, there are consequences.

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[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

An LTR is an exception I mentioned at the end. Just make sure it is roughly equal, she does not get a bigger birthday present than you do.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Just make the gifts horrible early and she'll stop expecting them. I bought my wife a burger press and keep joking I'll get her the burger caddy if she really wants another present. She jokes with all her friends how bad I am at gift giving. So I never have to buy any again unless I want to.

Edit: This year for her birthday I bought her a motorcycle helmet and jacket for the motorcycle I just bought. She was happy and I was going to get them for her anyway. haha

[–]p3n1x 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Doing something shitty intentionally to get out of doing it again or later is borderline BP mentality.

She jokes with all her friends how bad I am at gift giving.

They aren't "joking", they are talking massive shit about you.

If she didn't care about the gift situation, she wouldn't talk about it in the first place.

[–]JorixKienu 6 points7 points  (7 children)

In my past days, I was blue pill as huge as whole blue sky in a spring day.

But at least I did something right : I never liked to buy gift and I do not do it unless obligated or unless it is something sexy / kinky I like she wear.

[–]Mescuzzi 12 points13 points  (6 children)

You should NEVER feel obligated to buy her anything. When you buy her something, it should be because you are rewarding her good behavior.

[–]JorixKienu 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I know that this is the only way and I'm still struggling with this.

It is like finding that instead of a "human" interaction ( whatever this can mean) you are forced by situation to tame and charme some kind of stupid animal, an animal that for some irrational reason everybody consider normal and "human". I feel that whole process disgusting.

I know, I know , I have some some more digestion of the red pill to elaborate. Still working.

[–]Mescuzzi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Obligation is blue pill thinking. Men on Valentine's Day feel obligated to buy things for women. I think you should do some more reading on the sidebar, various books recommended from the sidebar, external links, etc.

Re-frame your thinking You are her Captain, and she is your deckhand. You are steering the ship, making the decisions, and that comes at a price. You have to have an abundance mentality to effectively see this, but in order to have that mentality, you have to be striving to be the best. If you are striving to be the best, and it shows in your life, they will see it too, and will be doing everything possible to stay in your life... including gifts

[–]JorixKienu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm keeping reading on the side bar.

I know that Captain / First mate (or whatever) model, and it still doesn't feel solid to me.

I can figure myself as a Captain, no problem on this part, but why did I have to stick to this kind of shitty help on my journey? Still bother me. I feel like it will be way better to kick out and forget this inferior companion ( as she is for the most part dead weight) and seek another person to help me. Or do it alone and uncumbered.

As I say, still working on this part.

[–]justfloatingthrough3 -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

Rewarding her good behavior? What is she, a dog?

[–]juliusstreicher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Must be, because its impossible to reward a human for good behavior, isn't it!?

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[–]Putins_Orange_Cock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've never, not once, bought something for a girl that wasn't an off:

[–]EscortSportage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  1. 4. and 8. HAHA LOVE IT!!

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's actually fairly simple: anything you do for a woman has to come from a position of power. You are the king throwing coins and trinkets to the peasantry, not the peasant trying to curry the king's favor.

The easiest way to do this is to never act like it's a big deal, e.g don't ask her about the flowers you sent and when you see her struggling to open a jar, just quickly take it, open it, and give it back (with a little slap on the ass for good measure). You're not trying to buy her love nor are you showing off, you're just being your awesome self.

[–]Hkay21 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! I was waiting for someone to come through with the similar opinion that I hold. Ya, I think as the post suggests to "never buy shit for bitches" is massively short sighted and looking at things too simplistically.

[–]jay_jay_man 4 points5 points  (9 children)

How do I say 'no' to a plate who's birthday is coming up? She's my top plate for about 6 months now.

[–]Mukato 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Make her (and you) dinner, or buy her a bottle of wine for you to drink together, then fuck her extra hard afterwards.

[–]plenty_of_eesh 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I guess the downvotes are because more people think that maybe giving a small gift to top plate is okay after 6 mos. of fucking her??

I think you should be able to give a gift at this stage without it being "transactional"... Gifts to try to get something in return, are IMHO (like the OP's) a bad idea, but unlike him I think it's hard to say your top plate for 6 months doesn't deserve it.

I think you can chill out on the TRP hard-line and show a little humanity.

Just my opinion.

[–]p3n1x -1 points0 points  (0 children)

maybe giving a small gift to top plate is okay after 6 mos. of fucking her

You said that like her pussy is a gift.


This is the magic word of the post. How does anyone "deserve" anything? Deserve is a short breath from "entitled to".

They both share time together, how does the other person "deserve" anything from this?

You are kind of 'hamstering' the "transaction' away. It is what it is, there is no subjective line in the sand that says "at this point it is OK, it is different and she will think differently".

]If you feel you need to reward a woman for spending time with you, then cut out the middle bullshit and put a ring on her finger. Anything else is a transaction and IS trying to "get something"/"keep something" which you claim you are against.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my top plate asked me for a gift when I come back from a short trip to Europe. I said the gift would be me

I like the top answer to this post tho, make it sexual so that you can actually appreciate the gift.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I am assuming that she will buy you something for your birthday also, so with that in mind it fits into the exception

[–]jay_jay_man 0 points1 point  (3 children)

She didn't. When I brought it to her attention last year I told her to buy me a drink in a joking manner. She said she was in a bar and I asked her for the location, she was vague and next msg I got from her was that she was home and wished me a happy birthday... So yeah, I guess that means no treats for her come this month.

[–]Dragon_Garoo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

She was getting railed by someone else.

[–]jay_jay_man 1 point2 points  (0 children)

probably, she didnt learn to suck dick so damn good at 18 by being an angel.

[–]Hjalmbere 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I like buying women crotchless panties and hooker boots because it turns me on. If that makes me the bluest of bluepill betas, then so be it.

[–]prodigy2throw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

[–]The_lost_Karma 9 points10 points  (6 children)

At least the fat kid will die by diabetes , bitch are a endless pit of void , their needyness had no limit.

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[–]modrizzy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is destructive thinking, no?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Ah, the good old reddit 'I don't know what I'm talking about and I'm new here but I'll give advice'...

[–]The_lost_Karma 2 points3 points  (1 child)

right...like i need a phd in gender studies from tumbler to post something obvious .

[–]fruitynoodles 5 points6 points  (13 children)

I spent 5 hours making a DVD with photos and videos of the last vacation my boyfriend and I went on together. It was a Valentine's Day gift.

He got me a pair of socks that matched his from Hungary.

Not all women are money hungry monsters. OP just sounds bitter af.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

That's fantastic that you enjoy putting that kind of effort in to show how dedicated you are to him and the relationship.

I think you're misinterpreting OP's point, though, which is to not buy gifts to try to win favor with a woman. The many results are negative from any angle. He's not saying that all women expect gifts, just that you should never cause them to begin expecting it unwarranted. The relationship should have as little material incentive as possible. Sounds like you may have gotten a lil defensive while reading the post and are responding to the attitude instead of the point - which is understandable from your perspective. Please clarify if I'm missing something there.

He does, however, resolve in his last paragraph that traditions, reciprocal gifts, or tokens of appreciation for respect and effort are usually good, which is what you and your boyfriend did. Again, props, that's very nice. Sounds like you two have a well-functioning dynamic. Curious, though, why spend your time commenting here instead of discussing the concept in RPWomen?

[–]askmrcia 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Not all women are money hungry monsters

Weird I didn't see anywhere in OP's post where he mentioned that. But ok

[–]fruitynoodles 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Really? Seems like the entire gist of his post/rant.

[–]askmrcia 8 points9 points  (1 child)

No, you just took it that way because you wanted something to be mad about. I'm guessing you wanted to try and start a flamewar on this thread for no reason.

In a nutshell he is telling men to stop buying women presents when they've done nothing to earn it.

If you done something special for your boyfriend then OBVIOUSLY OP is not talking about women like you.

[–]CallMeHaseo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

the female brain isnt something worth arguing with it doesnt understand rational

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you were my gal and you gave me such a thoughtful gift, I would reciprocate and treat you accordingly. My ex and I exchanged presents of equal value. My advice is aimed at betas and married guys who are basically paying for sex

[–]p3n1x 3 points4 points  (5 children)

I spent 5 hours making a DVD with photos and videos of the last vacation

You did that because it made YOU feel good. Believe me, he isn't going to his male friends bragging and sharing the video.

Not all women are money hungry monsters.

It isn't about the "cost" of the gift, it is about the entitlement to it.

It is about the women out there that "cut off sex" unless they get something. Or feel they deserve something.

[–]fruitynoodles -1 points0 points  (4 children)

The hell? I made it because it was special and he said it was the most thoughtful gift he's ever gotten.

I didn't make it with the hope he'd show all his friends. You guys will forever be single with this negative bitter mindset.

[–]p3n1x 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You guys will forever be single

Wrong again. Don't assume everyone (male&female) is looking for a long term relationship.

Hypergamy is real, and one cannot "spoil" pretty women with gifts and expect unquestioned loyalty in return.

People with a Strong Sexual Market Value will use it to their advantage, why wouldn't they? OP is not wrong when it comes to competing in that ring.

most thoughtful gift he's ever gotten.

You say the same thing about your new socks?

On a SMV scale of 1 to 10, where do you fall? Some of this material may not even pertain to you.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know a type of video you can make for him which he is guaranteed to show his friends...

[–]Phaeer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He acted like it was the most thoughtful gift ever. He really wanted a blowjob from you and your friend.

[–]sickofallofyou 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don't even buy my mom shit. Bitch don't cook. My poor dad...

[–]gemmagems 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Damn right, fuck that bitch for giving birth to you and raising you :) I hate all mothers--selfish.

[–]Holyballs26 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Nothing screams desperation like buying a woman gifts. The pain you will experience when you discover she has been using you all this time will make you wish you were never born!

[–]plenty_of_eesh 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Why would it be "desperation" if you've been jamming your cock down her throat regularly for months and she's a very good woman to you?

Like everything TRP, it seems that people get off on standing their ground even when the situation is not the one where the behavior is appropriate.

[–]p3n1x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you've been jamming your cock down her throat regularly for months

As long as nothing changes, OK. But, that is not the common story.

You should never gift someone for sex, period. Transaction is a transaction, can't hamster it away.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Writes a neckbeard who posts in Magic the gathering boards. Do you feel a bit more alpha now that you snuck into the big boy's room and posted an insult from behind your keyboard

[–]swimngolf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about drinks / food? Thats about the only money I spend on woman.... Because I also benefit from it.

[–]SlyAM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reflecting on my past blue self, I was so wrong in this category. One girlfriend I had, hadn't even been together a month and I got her a little-stuffed animal, chocolates, and a card. No wonder she dumped me days later.

[–]slothsenpai 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What if you got caught cheating, she forgave you but you still wanna make it up to her?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah give the dog a bone. In this case it is more like compensation or blood money rather than a gift.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

she doesn't need it and she doesn't deserve and she does not deserve it

nuff said

[–]MasterPublishing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can vouch. I own a store and 80 - 85% of my buyers are women ( with 60% being 34 or older ) and I sell equal amounts of items for both men and women ( bags, watches, bracelets, etc. ).

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 0 points1 point  (0 children)

when I buy them something it's always something that will benefit me as well. like a wheelbarrow and a shovel so she can landscape my backyard

[–]owlsden 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with the general thrust of the OP. However, I like to travel, ski, go to shows, the theater, things like that. Sometimes I like to bring plates with me, and in many cases I'll pay for them.

First of all, I like younger girls. They usually don't have much disposable income. And to be clear, I only do this with plates I'm already fucking. I don't do this to try to ingratiate myself, and I don't expect anything special in return. I bring them along to do shit that I think is fun, where I think they'll be good company.

What do you all think about paying for experiences, rather than presents?

[–]Hkay21 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah man, buy your bitches nice shit sometimes. It's a power move and says "that's right, who's got the power to buy that shit you're wearing? Me, thas right."

There's a difference between buying shit as a beta hoping to nice-guy your way into some Pussy, and being a man who buys some shit for a girl as a way of flexing his power and providing with good intent -- don't get caught into the one dimensional thinking that buying shit for chicks always makes you look weak. Check your intent and you can use gifts to your advantage.

Also, as an added bonus, at least for me, it's really out of my character to randomly buy a chick some shit because I do believe that a majority of the time buying shit is wack since yes, a lot of the time gifts come off as beta, so when I do buy a girl something it demonstrates that I'm unpredictable, which builds mystique.

Just reminding you guys that following blatant rules like this is over simplistic, and it can hurt your game to look at things so black and white.

[–]MrB0gus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great post.

This is something old school men knew very well. The famous Bible verse talks about this:

"Do not give what is holy to dogs; nor cast pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and tear you in pieces"

That's some real shit. Never give something to someone who doesn't deserve it. They won't appreciate it and will start expecting more, and you'll become resentful and frustrated.

[–]TheRealMouseRat 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Do you want to world economy to collapse?

Because that's how you get the world economy to collapse.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mwaah huh huh, you have seen the truth to my evil plan....

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I agree women have an absolutely retarded attraction to useless trinkets.

My wife is obsessed with Tiffany jewelry. It makes zero sense. It's a huge waste of money.

To reward her for not blowing any of our money on that crap, I'm slowly saving up to buy her a small Tiffany necklace. After all, she buys me presents all the time. More than I buy for her.

But I guarantee she's gonna wear that necklace for about three days and then it'll lay forgotten in a drawer for all eternity.

[–]_real_rear_wheel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whenever I read some poorly constructed post like this I assume the poster did the exact opposite of what they are preaching and now are trying to remedy their "failure" by denouncing the practice.

Too much LARPing on this sub.

[–]justfloatingthrough3 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

All people are inherently lazy, selfish creatures. That is the nature of mankind. Pretty good post overall, though.