Notice that in female dominated subs, no one is talking strategy about how to attract a high SMV man. Not only do they have no idea how to do it, they’re scared to shed light onto the situation. (self.TheRedPill)

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[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 52 points53 points  (4 children)

in female dominated subs, no one is talking .. about how to attract a high SMV man

Actually this is ALL they are talking about. They're just using different language.

When they talk about a "guy they really like", they're talking about a high SMV man. When they're talking about "true love" and "settling down with a great guy", they're talking about a high SMV man.

Women's magazines and articles are FULL of discussion on how to do this: be yourself, don't try too hard, how to flirt, how to look pretty, do their makeup, what to wear (don't be too tarty, but do show off your assets, girl!), etc. Tips on how to dance, how to make him jealous, how to satisfy him in bed.

Once you realise that netting a high SMV man is ALL they care about pre-30 and that netting a high SMV man and his money is all they care about post-30, you'll see they talk about little else.

They're just misguided and socially awkward about it.

[–]xddm2653 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Hey man, do you have any advice on how to become a higher SMV man? Hardest part I'm having on RP atm. Btw this post is extremely eye opening and it's kinda depressing how every woman has access to sexual strategy

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 22 points23 points  (2 children)

Read all the sidebar if you haven't already.

Getting girls is a combination of SMV, game, and access to girls. You should work on all three at once, because they all help each other.

SMV is a slippery concept... because male attractiveness is very contextual. Social credit is very very powerful, so don't neglect getting/using this.

There's lots of aspects to SMV. Stuff you can do to improve it:

  • Learn to care less about women (get more opportunities)
  • Get your bodyfat down to 10%
  • More muscle and strength (lift, motherfucker!)
  • Learn to talk lower, slower, more commanding, don't ask questions
  • Sharp haircut, groomed, good clothes is fast and obvious and effective but most don't do it
  • Get your finances in order. Don't use money as an attractor itself, but cultivate an air of "money isn't a problem" and spend it on you for you.

Hope this helps, now get to it.

[–]xddm2653 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I definitely understand the theory behind it. Some things just seem out of my control. I am not a master at social situations, although 1 on 1 I do alright. I wish I was taller than 5'8. I can get a girl in bed but I lose most of my frame after that. In fact, I never know what to do after getting with a new girl - whether I ignore her the next day or hit her up, it always seems to fuck off after once or twice of hooking up. Maybe I need to go down on girls more, or make them cum before I do. There was a girl last month who constantly bugged me to go out with her, was really into me and after weeks of blowing her off I finally went for it and closed - really great sex but after that she went back to her ex and ironically it upset me

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Some things just seem out of my control. I am not a master at social situations, although 1 on 1 I do alrigh

Practice, observe, repeat. You can't do it in isolation, you have to live it.

I wish I was taller than 5'8.

Get lifter shoes, work out to look your best.

I can get a girl in bed but I lose most of my frame after that.

That's 90% of the work done.

In fact, I never know what to do after getting with a new girl - whether I ignore her the next day or hit her up, it always seems to fuck off after once or twice of hooking up.

Done right it shouldn't matter. Most important: girl is SECOND in your life, after your mission. Hit her up the next day with "great to see you, busy with work for a few days".

Maybe I need to go down on girls more, or make them cum before I do.

This is not the answer, don't be too eager to please. it's about you, most of all.

There was a girl last month who constantly bugged me to go out with her, was really into me and after weeks of blowing her off I finally went for it and closed - really great sex but after that she went back to her ex and ironically it upset me

This happens... you eventually accept them as part of your validation structure, and then they remove it and you're worse than when you started.

Your validation should be internal. Much easier said than done! Do you try and see more than one girl at once, for at least the first 2-3 months? This works wonders.

Do you have fun with the girl? I don't mean entertaining her, I mean living and loving your own life with her in it. Girls can be awesome company but it can't be trying to entertain her. It's more about conveying your passion and her enjoying YOU. Girls are happiest when it's all about you, and they are second to your mission. They derive a lot of satisfaction from pleasing a high value man.

Don't undermine this by trying too hard to please them. You don't need to ignore them, you don't need to order them around, but you should please yourself first. You go to the restaurant YOU want to go to. If she doesn't like it... "No problem, you can wait outside till i am finished".

And yes, I did once say that to a girl. Ten minutes later she said "you know I really like it in here". Didn't fuck her, so take from this what you will.

Hope this helps.

[–]FreeRadical5 176 points177 points  (5 children)

You don't see discussion about strategies to give money away either. Difficulty level: 0.

[–]lekman 24 points25 points  (2 children)

Not necessarily true, there is discussion about "effective altruism" in certain circles.

But otherwise agree on the broader point

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I get your point but Charity isn't necessarily "giving money away" in the same sense that wandering the street handing out £20.00 notes is, the altruistic dollar gets fed back into society, one way or the other.

[–]alexclarkbarry 2 points3 points  (0 children)

this is gold, great analogy

[–]jackandjill22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If a girl hasn't opened for you, then you're not attractive enough.

[–][deleted] 119 points120 points  (21 children)

Women don't date like men do. Why on earth would they spend hours online analyzing how to get a dude? They have sexual options, and their urges aren't the same such that it's a pressing need to find a partner in the same way it is for men.

This whole post unravels when you realize that game to get high smv dates is a thing that only men do.

[–]a_chill_bro 14 points15 points  (10 children)

Then they approach the dreaded wall and lose their minds if they didn't play it smart when they did have all those sexual options.

I've seen it happen with some of my plates. They start losing friends and begin blaming other people for not finding a man.

The smart women settle down with the right high value man at the right time.

[–]Johnnyvile 19 points20 points  (9 children)

I always find this wall very funny. Yes there is a metaphorical wall of responsibility that will slap them in the face around 30 that they didn't have in their 20s. If they didn't focus on themselves they may just end up losers.They attractiveness will go down some what too, but not all of them. Don't let this fool you into thinking they won't still end up in a great position in life.

It seems too many guys hold on to this wall that they want certain women to run into one day so they can win in their minds. Honestly though even a moderately attractive woman in her 30s that's single and working at a Hooters will likely still find a good looking guy that's in shape and has his shit together without being a total beta.

There are just too many people out there and some 40 year old dude will want to settle down. When he does he will be happy to settle down with a woman in their 30s rather than a young dumb girl in their 20s. A moderately attractive woman in her 30s-40s, especially if she has no kids, will still be highly sought after by men....just not dudes in their 20s.

[–]1nzgs 7 points8 points  (3 children)

No one is disputing that women can settle down whenever they want. The point is that the genetic elite successful men they all value so highly are not the same guys as the lonely 40 year old execs who they end up settling with. If you were right and all these post-wall women were so happily settled then the majority of them wouldn't be getting divorced. They look at their friends who played the game right and feel burning envy and bitterness even if they don't outwardly show it on social media.

It's stuff like this that's making this place irrelevant and pushing people to TRP-R sub instead. This place is blue pill as hell.

[–]alexclarkbarry 0 points1 point  (1 child)

"It's stuff like this that's making this place irrelevant and pushing people to TRP-R sub instead. This place is blue pill as hell" Then post good things that are worth reading. Its ironic because you claim that this Reddit is too BP for you, yet passively complaining about something without trying to change it is BP... stop filling the Reddit with BP comments and it might be more to your liking.

[–]MindBalance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He posted a good and factual thing that was worth Reading, this place indeed seems to be getting Blue pilled. You are the one trying to make It seem that high smv Young Men are the same as lonely 40-50 year olds in the eyes of woman. They are not

[–]theONE843663 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah people are​ getting softer in here. 40 year old man can def fuck with 20 year olds. 40 year old Alphas don't marry post wall pussies. 40 yr old TRP aware men do not marry at all.

[–]MustNotFfff 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Can't agree more. It's getting so old hearing TRP folks hanging on the The Wall as some sort of revenge fantasy. Women have life on easy mode. The more attractive she is, the easier her life is. Yes, it gets harder for her with age, but it's still easy mode for a long time.

[–]Johnnyvile 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's my point. It seems many guys are holding onto this as some sort of vengeful victory in the future. Usually applied to some girl that was never interested in them.

Another guy made a lengthy post on this a little while back which made a lot of sense.

[–]harsha_hs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure women have their life on easy mode for getting men's attention and being approached for sex. But it won't get easier for her to get a man who checks all her boxes and willing to offer a life long commitment. Do you have a sister or some girl whom you know better?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wall also means the point at when their looks will begin to deteriorate and they will no longer be classed as 'young' by society. Some 34 years olds look better than some 20 year olds - don't get me wrong.

But it's interesting to note how differently women project their age as a huge factor in how others see them.

[–]a_chill_bro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think anyone here is fooled into thinking all women hit The Wall at the same time and in the same way. Or that life won't be easier for some women.

The Wall as a reproductive impetus however is very real for all women. All women have a shorter reproductive lifespan than men and as such will be driven to have kids and a provider for those kids.

This drive to reproduce makes them all behave in very similar ways. Nobody here wants them to run into this situation for personal reasons. It's a reality.

[–]FatalTypingAccident points points [recovered]

I agree, they have completely different strategies. IMO the OP was looking for a sub like the redpill but for women, instead all he had to do was buy a cosmo magazine.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (5 children)

There's actually subreddits specifically for female game, they're just super small.

OP was dumb comparing a women's general interest sub to TRP.

[–]happy_fart 4 points5 points  (4 children)

What are the names of these subreddits? I think some of us would find this interesting.

[–]redpillthrowaway112 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Google search "red pill women" and you should see the sub.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsqerl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are seminars called "Get the Guy" and "Sugar Daddy School" too.

[–]aanarchist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

not everyone is fine with just taking whatever scraps are given to them, there are some women who have the balls to actually seek what they want instead of settling for some dipshit that they know they'll be unhappy with.

[–]MindBalance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then explain why women literally ask to be fucked because they don't know what else to do, and why they get mad when It obviously doesnt work - _ -

[–]WolfAlphaDad points points [recovered]

While there is a shitload of hamstering going on in redpillwomen, there is a decent amount of talk about not only finding high SMV males but keeping them as well. It can be hard to find in all the hamster posts but it's there. The problem is that while our strategy tends to require sex upfront, many of them are concerned about keeping their n count low and won't just put out for a while. Even though we are both versions of TRP it seems that sometimes their philosophies are at odds with ours.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (4 children)

The different strategies are to be expected from two different genders. I don't believe that this sub expects sex up front per se, but the guys don't want to be gamed. A guy isn't going to want to wait for a women that probably has a string of ONS and FWBs.

I can tell when I'm getting laid because I passed shit tests left and right and when I'm just banging a slut. The former may be LTR material, while the later never will be anything other than a plate.

[–]Bear-With-Bit 2 points3 points  (2 children)

The better the LTR material, the stronger the shit tests? And the sluttier the girl, the weaker the shit tests?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

And the sluttier the girl, the weaker the shit tests?

this is true, but I would not simply rely on the presence of shit tests to find an ltr. You don't want to wind up with a rape-me girl; these hoes are real, I've met several

[–]Bear-With-Bit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point. Will be keeping an eye out for your comments/posts.

[–]RedPimpin 6 points7 points  (2 children)

they do a very good job at keeping the hamstering to a minimum, you're giving them a bad rep

[–]Blemper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can be taken too seriously.

[–]xddm2653 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Dude I noticed the exact same thing. The advice they're giving out there are the exact kind of women I try to avoid.

[–]WolfAlphaDad points points [recovered]

If you're open to a LTR you could do way worse than that group. They work to keep their SMV high and their n count low. They consciously want to be in a captain/xo relationship. They get educations and focus on being good home makers, wives, and mothers. I have respect for what they're doing, especially when society is against them and their "traditional" ideas.

[–]xddm2653 0 points1 point  (4 children)

But it means less sex on the market.

[–]t12totalxyzb00 points points [recovered]

.. I would take a good wife/mum in exchange for a hoe.

[–]xddm2653 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I understand where you're coming from but there seems to be an incongruency on RP. I was taught a girl is never yours, it's only your turn. This means not worrying about who she's banged before, or who she's gonna bang after. Obviously you want a girl with a low n-count, but if she successfully lies about it and you believe it, would there be any difference?

[–]t12totalxyzb00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The difference is, that in your version we are dealing with new age women, and in mine with the classical family unit women.

[–]CptFizz 46 points47 points  (10 children)

There are hundreds of books on Amazon how to get and marry a rich and successful man. Some titles:

  • Ho Tactics: How to MindF**k A Man into Spending, Spoiling, and Sponsoring
  • A GOAL Digger's Guide: How to get what you want without giving it up
  • Living inside his mind and his wallet: Financial Domination Guide
  • HOW TO MEET THE RICH for Business, Friendship, or Romance
  • Marry a Millionaire - The Best Places To Find Rich Men
  • How to Marry Rich: A Woman's Guide on How to Get What You Want and Marry a Millionaire
  • How To Marry Mr. Rich: "How To Find A Single Man Who Is Making $150,000.00+Plus A Year"
  • Date Rich, Marry Well: A Practical Guide for Manifesting Relationships with Wealthy Men (How to be a Female Player Book 2)

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Do you notice that every single one of those books is about how to secure a wealthy man, not how to secure a handsome man. It is a total confirmation of what Esther Vilar says in The Manipulated Man. Women are after resources and a slave. They do not really care about sex and they use it as a lure and manipulation device. TRP say that AF:BB and that is true as it relates to modern pick up/ tinder culture. Girls have been convinced to act like men and ride the CC , so jacked guys on tinder fuck a lotta women: AF. Then they hit the wall and return to their default desires: BB. All of the above books deal with the BB part of female hypergamy.

[–]justcallmetarzan 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Esther Vilar says in The Manipulated Man

Six bucks on Kindle. Wait, what?!?! $150 in paperback?!?! $200 in hardcover?!?!

Do the print versions come with the Kindle?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think that particular book is in the sidebar mate.

Pinch of salt when reading it though eh.

[–]justcallmetarzan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it is - I just have a distaste for reading books on screens.

[–]sir_wankalot_here 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Exactly, OP is clueless. Years ago, entire Cosmo was full of articles of how to hook a rich man. One article was how to hook a dentist, dentists make a fair amount of money.

[–]AlphaTransition 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Exactly, OP is clueless. Years ago, entire Cosmo was full of articles of how to hook a rich man. One article was how to hook a dentist, dentists make a fair amount of money.

I think you completely missed the point. Landing BB has been discussed to death. What do any of those Amazon titles have to do with high SMV men?

[–]sir_wankalot_here 4 points5 points  (0 children)

High SMV for women equals power. The core of all women's sites etc is how to entrap a man. Different types of women are attracted to different types of power.

Ayn Rand's panties got into a knot over a murderer, she was obsessed with him. This is revealing, since she was well educated and intelligent.

I guess a guy like Doc Holiday would have been her fantasy come true, Dentist, intelligent and psychopath. He had poor skills as a gunfighter but he made up for it in incredible frame.

Men of low SMW are invisible to women. I didn't understand this till I started reading TRP despite experiencing it first hand.Certain types of power attract certain types of women. At the time, I was a college instructor. I met a chick outside school at different social events, I said hi to her several times. She ignored me.

Flash forward a couple of months, she was talking to a friend who said I was a college instructor. She then immediately wanted to talk to me etc. When I asked before if she rememenered talking to me before, she said no. Literally I was invisible to her before I had SMV.

Muscles, being in a band, artist, fighter, drug dealer, teacher etc all different types of power. You can hamster about it all day long, this is what attracts women.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsqerl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are seminars called "Get the Guy" and "Sugar Daddy School" too.

[–]akatsukirp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've met the most sugar daddy searching hos at charity events. They dress in little baby doll dresses and can be seen talking to the ugliest of dudes as long as they are wearing an expensive outfit.

[–]xddm2653 0 points1 point  (0 children)

can you summarize some of the strategies used in there? lol

[–]TheOneTrueMagnet points points [recovered]

Female SMV is simpler than male. This makes it easier for them, but means they have less ability to change it as well. It is

  1. Be young.
  2. Have the appropriate bust/waist/hip ratio.
  3. Have the appropriate body fat percentage.
  4. Facial symmetry, skin maintenance, and other beauty (read health) markers.

Beyond that, girl sexual game is pretty simple.

  1. Have him notice you. Be attractive. Don't be unattractive.
  2. Open conversation. Instead of demonstrating value like men do, women can lay on the compliments that make men feel like they are valuable. It is the same dynamic approached from the other side. Most women are incapable of gathering the courage to start the conversation, let alone smart enough to come in as an equal and then build the man up.
  3. Instigate kino. This is difficult for most women, but it is what separates most women from the seductresses.
  4. Give him the green light. They have to let the man close, but they need to be aggressive about letting him know they are open for the close.

I have known several girls that were HB7 at best, and they would regularly pull down guys that were 8s and 9s. They all did exactly as above. They did the best they could with what they had, and they used game to nail down guys way above their levels on a predictable basis. They would even get these guys to date them afterwards.

The issue with all this is that it is difficult for these girls to keep these guys. Eventually she will try to turn him into a beta and if he is attractive enough, he will bounce. There are some guys that settle though as she just plays the waiting game, uses emotional blackmail, and gets pregnant.

[–]quickeddie points points [recovered]

It is exactly this regular pulling of guys that indicates this woman is failing in her sexual strategy. If you perceive it as success it is only because the mirror result for a man actually would be success. It's not at all hard for a woman to "pull" a man who is a 9 or 10. She can do this even if she is a 5 or 6 and makes it super convenient for him. A woman's success is in holding the high value man, which requires more than what you outlined.

[–]TheOneTrueMagnet points points [recovered]

It is easy for a woman to pull a 9 or 10 once in a while when the guy is just looking for something quick and convenient. It is another thing to be able to consistently pull them and quickly get one locked down into a relationship. That takes girl game. It exists.

[–]skylive2 points points [recovered]

Guy game is getting sex. Girl game is getting commitment.

[–]Toastlove 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some girl game is just getting sex too. I know of girls who aren't even bad looking who go though dry spells because they aren't interested in whats available to them. They are in the awkward spot of not being hot or forward enough to attract the 'chads' but nice enough looking that the awkward guys approach them to get shot down.

For them just getting sex off a guy they think is at their standard but they are also attracted to is a victory.

[–]TheStationer 193 points194 points  (17 children)

Didn't finish reading, but I disagree. There are plenty of women who know how to flirt and attract men, they just aren't talking about it on Reddit.

[–]xddm2653 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yup. Women are competitive, and most subconsciously dislike other women. I often wonder why Red Pill exists, if only you knew about it would you tell everybody in the world? But guys are different.

However a lot of women do know how to be high SMV. Feminine qualities, not being an annoying feminist, and some attractive features is all a lady needs

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (3 children)

totally agree. women know exactly what to do and also know not to overtly speak about these matters because that isnt attractive

[–]TRP Legal ExpertColdIceZero 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So you're saying women just.. know. But we see that men don't always know. We see this because TRP wouldn't exist as a resource if men already knew. So why do women know but not all men know? Legit trying to understand your line of reasoning.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Men and women are different. They communicate differently and asking me WHY that is and WHY they just know these matters about sexual strategy isn't knowable nor is it productive to circle jerk and theorize.

What is knowable is that we can observe what we see and take action without needing to understand the reasons

[–]CaptainCringeworthy points points [recovered]

9 million users on that sub and not a single mention of female sexual strategy? That's suspicious.

[–]murdermonkey 39 points40 points  (3 children)

It's because they don't have to, women can always attract up. You are also assuming their goals on online forums are the same as yours. You are in a sub dedicated to the war of the sexes, you assume twox is for the same purpose.

[–]Acquin 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Don't be fat, show half your tits, wear something tight lower to showcase some ass, make your make up look as natural as possible and... I think that's about all they have to do?

[–]Blemper -1 points0 points  (0 children)

nothing more than they do a power clean, incorporated in my interactions with new girls.

[–]SgtDowns 7 points8 points  (3 children)

You should take a basic course in statistics. Then maybe you'd learn something about biased sampling.

[–]FlexGunship 56 points57 points  (2 children)

This is a Beta way to disagree. Don't be passive aggressive. Point out the error and how it changes the conclusion.

Engage in high-quality communication.

[–]SgtDowns 25 points26 points  (1 child)

The first comment already said it. I was clarifying for OP since he was still insisting he was right.

[–]TRP Legal ExpertColdIceZero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The first comment merely posts an unsupported conclusion. He didn't support his statement with evidence. He just asserts that women know and don't need to discuss it with other women. Says who? Why is that conclusion valid? It's not an argument; it's a baseless statement.

[–]suloco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1) to women it's much more intuitive. They either know how to flirt/attract or they don't. 2) in this field there is much much less incentive for them to improve on this. 3) women are much less cooperative in this field. They want to attract the best possible male, why should they lower their chances by sharing experience and tips etc. 4) on the other hand, look at mummy's forums. There are shitloads of (usually meaningless) tips and strategies about child-care (at least here in east EU). Women don't compete to be the winner of the Mother of the Year award. They are competing to lock down the best genes around.

This stuff is no surprise and it seems OP projects male POV on women too much.

[–][deleted] 61 points62 points  (2 children)


female dominated subs

What kind of women do you think youre talking about

[–]JackGetsIt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Underrated comment right here. Women that write on reddit are not the average female at all.

[–]yleGerm points points [recovered]

I disagree, but mostly in a strategic sense.

Cleopatra and Monroe were high status women.

The problem for women like this is hypergamy. Women have absolutely no idea what to do with power and often turn tyrannical in order to keep it. Their sexuality turns lesbianic or dominating, like aggressively butch dykes and men with any semblance of masculinity run the fuck away.

For the average woman, she can't admit that most men are attracted to vulnerability because to do so would undermine the preposition that we are equal, even if affecting a lie runs counter to her success in the mating market.

What often happens is, for the woman with high status, she will adopt a sexual role which is sexy but completely ignores the more maternally feminine psyche necessary to compel protectional male bondage. The traditional male role has been abolished.

Unless a man is willing to put a lot of time and effort into restructuring her, the only thing a man can do within that relationship is to either have fun turning her into a resentful cum dumpster, or become her beta.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Because its a logical paradox. If you explain to a woman what she would need to do to attract a high SMVRMV (this is female sexual strategy remember) then she would have to either reject the notion of what makes her important (sex & maternal value), or reject that advice and adopt a different narrative(leftist ideological alternative).

So instead, they make their own narrative, subscribe to a victimization schema and then fate takes the wheel.

Be submissive, attractive and a great mother conflicts with strong, unique and independent. So they max out the left narrative, and have their pick of at most, high betas and getting pumped and dumped by chad.

[–]1OneRedYear 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Gold diggers actively learn what to do to get high smv men. They just don't discuss it on open forums. TRP is probably an outlier in dark arts as we talk in a public forum about it. Which explains why it's so hated. Imagine a gold digger forum with tips tricks and field reports about suckers and cash prizes. Or a forum on how to be a better club slut or whore? Come on..the sisterhood would curtail that action immediately. Hot girls real talk to each other in person...not to strangers online. That's more of a male thing.

[–]IckyStickyPoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Imagine a gold digger forum with tips tricks and field reports about suckers and cash prizes.

There is. Lots of them. TRP is late to the party.

[–]Blemper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And being alpha enough doesnt explain Rick okasik and David Crosby.

[–]OprahIsHungry 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Don't know if the app bumble has been mentioned on here. It's like tinder but if matched, the girl has 24 hours to start a convo. In most cases they absolutely suck. A simple "hi" is all they bother with. One girl actually started off with asking about my favorite fruit. If I did that I'd get laughed at.

[–]evilmmm 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I dated a woman very briefly from Bumble. She said she wasn't going to even message me but saw me in public and recognized me from the app. What a coincidence.

Women aren't really looking for mates or even flings on dating apps. It's ego stroking 101.

[–]Blemper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Her reality is dictated by your choices, and your choices are shaped by how you perceive the world around you.

[–]spencerc25 11 points12 points  (3 children)

“have you ever gone home with/slept with a guy who bought you a >drink at the bar?” It always takes them a moment to process it, but >inevitably they concede that they have not.

I always get annoyed when girls talk about how they give such great advice to men on how to pickup women. When I ask them "have you ever gone home with a dude you just met from a bar?" When they answer no, then I always tell them "How would you teach something you have no experience with?"

Of course, I then get some emotion filled response on why she knows what she's talking about.

[–]Oz70NYC 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Never accept advice on attracting a female from one, ESPECIALLY when she's single herself.

[–]spencerc25 0 points1 point  (1 child)

the most ironic thing was that she was trying to explain to me why monogamy works. and she's 29 and already divorced after her monogamous relationship ended in 7 years.

[–]Oz70NYC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now that's fuckin' comical.

[–]Dirkz 41 points42 points  (13 children)

You trying to attract some high smv men?

[–]Exactly_what_I_think 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Shouldn't we all look for high SMV friends?

[–]CaptainCringeworthy points points [recovered]

How'd you know? Too bad you're not in that category.

[–]KazarakOfKar 4 points5 points  (0 children)

At the end of the day women know deep down there are literally 80 or more women trying to attract one top tier alpha. Even settling for a lesser Alpha you are still talking about 10+ women statistically after that one man. Women hate competition, that is why they sabotage careers, especially the careers of other women. With that in mind WHY would any woman give another woman tips on getting a high SMV Alpha when she herself may needs to attract that same Alpha if hers next's her.

[–]Wolfeaze 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Most guys give up the D easily. On any given night in every city, there are thousands of men hopping from club to club offering free rides on the bologna pony. Assuming a woman isn't unattractive and doesn't have issues with social anxiety or low confidence, it isn't hard to get offers of sex from attractive men. The most important thing for a functional and attractive woman to know is where to go to get these offers.

The only woman I knew that couldn't get laid was extremely awkward and just couldn't work up the confidence to go out or function socially once they were there. I'm not sure how big of a sexually frustrated awkward lady community there is, but I agree they could benefit from organizing and studying how to become competent at dating and sex. I'd say mainstream female culture already strongly promotes being attractive and not fat though, just take a look at 90% of the content in women's magazines. It's already so socially unacceptable to be an unkempt or unattractive woman that the female equivalent of a total neckbeard is a pretty rare sight (well, it is where I'm from.)

TBH a lot of lesbians use strategies similar to men because it is only applicable to women.

I'm kind of curious what kind of advice men would have for women.

[–]DarkRenaissance 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Women do not NEED to have an idea of how to get a high SMV man. All they have to do is make some eye contact and giggle. They just have to open their legs. Sooner or later some high SMV man will come along.

Last week I was talking to a 5/10, I told her she has a flat ass. Response - "I don't need a bubble butt I have 3 backup options already". Showed me pictures, 2/3 were decent looking, one 6'2. She's 5 feet tall.

Women do not need to discuss sexual strategy. Eggs are precious, sperm is cheap. Nature has placed us in different categories - you're making the mistake of thinking women and men go about their sexual strategies the same way.

[–]flashbang123 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Women just plain don't know what they want. You need to tell them.

[–]schizoBrother points points [recovered]

That applies to after you have her. When they're out trolling they generally have the base idea that they'll hold out for either prince charming or chad. Then they get drunk and sloot.

[–]flashbang123 7 points8 points  (1 child)

That apples to all women, they don't know what they want. Why do you think women are so indecisive and change their mind every 15 minutes? They fly by the seat of their emotions.

[–]PowerVitamin[🍰] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If they are interested, they should make eye contact, hold it, and be like calm water: accommodating, respecting, and marvel at our form and mend our wounds within them.

Then she should ask questions that don't involve red flags. EX: Where you are from? What do you read? What sports do you play? What fights have you been in? Tell me a story.

She doesn't even have to talk or ask questions really, but it would be advantageous to early relationships, or the first time she meets her interest.

[–]PowerVitamin[🍰] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And by questions that involve red flags, I mean, money. We, at theRedPill, will redflag any girl who makes a comment about money.

[–]usku 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, catching a high value male requires very little on womens behalf. Spread legs, get man. Want to keep him...forget a pill or two.

You'll distinctly notice that I said high value man, not an alpha high value man. The distinction is succinct.

I know plenty of betas who make good money, yet lack confidence, looks or social skills and will gladly take a near or post wall woman who happens to know how to get them off in a manner they find acceptable. Once they are owned, they are owned.

Hopefully, by this point, the readers here know better then to trust a hoe. Bag it up gentlemen, regardless of where you fit on the scale.

[–]Ganaria_Gente 5 points6 points  (2 children)

No offense op but you have been posting a crap ton of threads. Mostly complaining threads

Have you ever thought of leaving aside the internet for a while?

[–]CaptainCringeworthy points points [recovered]

I have. And you're absolutely right, if I find myself complaining then it's time to take a break and cool off. The difficulty comes when I get a spark of inspiration and begin to write. I think, research, write, and edit. It's become a passion of mine, and it's hard to just go cold turkey on something you love. But I do plan to take a break and get back to my responsibilities. Writing for TRP doesn't pay the bills.

[–]Frosty1990 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OP I see where you are coming from, and I wouldn't listen to what half of these jokes are saying, this is a very interesting topic that should be discussed, instead of ignored or downplayed, all the comments on here are on point and some do t really matter, but continue posting man, you know what your talking about

[–]Toolman890 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Women are not problem solvers, only men are. You're expecting something from the female brain that is barely possible for them.

[–]justgotalpha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree it is difficult for women to land a high SMV man ,the thing is that women have so many options these days + too many betas that it is hard for them to actually see who is high smv and who is not,for example.. GUY#1: confident enough to approach them and seduce them into bed , this guy is average looking with a sense of fashion,he has a normal job but hits the bars on the weekend and approaches tons of women and through trial and error he has learned the game.GUY #2 is above average/good looking, has a normal job, doesn't approach women often and gets laid regularly 2-5 times in a year by 5-6s due to his looks, women see this guy and get attracted and since they want validation and a reflection of the men they are attracting they give it up to this guy but only short term(they think he is a player so they dont want to commit or atleast thats what they say)GUY#3 is good looking+fit+rich drives an expensive car and dresses like a playboy.this guy right here is the obvious image of a high smv man ,women dont know how to react to his presence because well he has it ALL (at least she thinks) she will not know how to keep things interesting,she thinks this man is unattainable so she auto rejects him before he even tries to approach her(but something inside of her makes her want to be with this guy)this guy has it WORST than guy #1 believe it or not because she wants his commitment but knows that she will be competing with other women and women HATE COMPETION,they hate the thought of a guy they are dating to leave them for a prettier girl so they will smell trouble and not want to do anything with it ,the second biggest thing a women protects after her reputation is her EGO,women have a crystal fragile ego. those are my 2 cents


[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, they aren't discussing it. So fucking what? If they don't want to get fit and smell nice while acting feminine, they don't deserve a high value man. It's not my problem simply because I'm not into fat chicks. Kinda have a fetish for the plain Janes that I scratch on occasion, but fat girls don't get me hard.

[–]logen9fingersinyamom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or they just don't care, and this sub is over thinking everything because the whole purpose of this sub is a contradiction. To pretend to not care about women in order to attract women. This whole sub is based of the need to gain approval of women, that's the whole reason its here.

How do you do this? Offence is best defense so you force yourself into believing you are better, and women are evil or stupid, so you feel better. A mere coping mechanism and distraction from the real problem, your not happy with yourself.

This whole sub is just projected insecurity.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Rule 0.this doesnt help me

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Waaay off and a long post which is much ado about nothing. Women do not discuss sexual strategy because they do not need it. If a woman wants to get laid, all she needs to do is get out of bed, brush her hair and leave the house. If they wanted they could just stay in bed and go online. This whole post is longwinded and pointless. The fact that it has 400+ upvotes just shows that there are 400+ teenage sunscribers who have not a clue about life, the sidebar or good posts.

[–]Bear-With-Bit 1 point2 points  (9 children)

This OP and u/RPtruthe and that one "Red Pill's resident marketing and psychology expert" are probably the same dude.

I wish ECs would post as often but they're probably too busying lifting, fucking and alphaing.

[–]RedditAdminsSuck_88 1 point2 points  (5 children)

He gas really lost his mind since I called him and RPTruthe out as the same accounts

[–]CaptainCringeworthy points points [recovered]

The day I lose my mind is the day you lose your virginity. I swear, if you took all that time you troll me and instead invested it into improving your sexual strategy, you'd be an endorsed contributor by now.

[–]RedditAdminsSuck_88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I could care less about being an EC. I can tell it's what you are shooting for though with all your posts. You have oneitis for being an EC.

[–]Bear-With-Bit 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Seen any good lube-bucket deals lately? I'm running low.

[–]CaptainCringeworthy points points [recovered]

ECs are also not on TRP so much that they recognize patterns in postings from different accounts. You read so much of TRP anonymous account's postings become familiar to you. Stop contradicting yourself: you're the one who needs to get off of TRP and busy yourself lifting, fucking, and alphaing.

[–]Bear-With-Bit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll admit I'm not lifting enough and I have a proud dad bod. What about you, Cap'n? Why don't you show the rest of us who need to learn from your wisdom and your experience how swole you are? Let's see some bulging pecs, brah!

[–]poppop_n_theattic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The body of your post primarily discusses the absence of discussion of how to flirt and "be the chaser." That's not necessarily the same as how to raise SMV or attract interest from a high SMV male. I'm curious, did you see anything like that (even if it was advice you disagreed with)?

[–]5960312 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Almost all of it was stories of how women were victims of either the system or of a man, some of it was politics, and the rest was anecdotes other women could relate too.

People may not talk about what they want but they talk about what they don't want. Take the via negativa. Deduce what they want from what they say they don't want. It's implied.

[–]HiDefFX 0 points1 point  (1 child)

SMV Men get women because they know what they want and what attracts them. So wouldn't that mean that there are many women who know how to attract smv men?

A smv man wouldn't want a women who doesn't know anything.

Edit: missing a word

[–]Blemper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm 30+ and I appreciated your comment and this post was about how involved they are biological things, if I'm happy my body is releasing cortisol and adrenaline, if I'm feeling close to

[–]augusto9990 points points [recovered]

This makes it easier for them, but continue posting man, which is to say a affluent chad.

[–]Blemper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not there yet but I think that's about all they care about people, but the truth and emerged to realize that it is about criticisms you perceive here, and advice on how

[–]billsmashole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It sounds like most women want to stay in the dark on the subject because being the aggressor is hard and is contrary to their nature.

[–]xXSoroxXx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, very interesting stuff. There's a girl at my gym who has been eyeing me for awhile. I think she is really nervous around me because if I'm in the area she's always snapping her head in my direction periodically checking to see if I'm looking. Sometimes I'll just stare at her until she starts biting her lips. It's almost as if they simply do not know how to even say "Hi" in the presence of someone they find attractive.

[–]kellykebab 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are you trying to help an attractive woman that you "don't want to fuck" learn how to seduce other men?

[–]Praecipuus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I attempted to make a post on that sub describing how when women tell stories they speak in emotion and how men tell stories they speak in fact. (...) My post was immediately removed by the mods because they claimed I wasn’t allowed to make sweeping generalizations about men and women. I was in shock

So you were in shock that mods of a women's sub reacted emotionally to your post on how women act emotionally?

[–]aanarchist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there's already a lot of dudes cashing in selling women purple pill advice bro. most of it is about her deprogramming all the princess shit and how to treat a man like a human being, funny how well it works.

[–]romeo_heat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are women's group on facebook trying to figure out how to get men.

[–]icutrauma11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's because they are unable to discuss subjects and associate with one another with any other concern than themselves. They are in a constant state of seeking attention.

[–]stawek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's because they don't need it.

They can attract a higher smv man by simlpy bending over. Works every time. Their problem is in keeping the high smv man. Again, they don't need any advice on that, cause high smv men will not stay with any one woman anyway.

What women need advice on is how to look better cause that raises their smv. Most of female boards are about make up, fashion and diets. Other than that they can stop being bitches, but again, they aren't for a high smv men naturally and without any advice.

Lastly, men like low n count. Nothing a woman can do about her past and they can't act like a virgin either, as men have great instincts about it.

[–]PissedPajamas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My ex claimed that "she had game" if she pulled a guy like me. Her game was show up and talk to me, and even in my BP days I knew this was BS. Couldn't help but let out a chuckle and an "ok Casanova" comment

[–]1introvertp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

women don’t know anything except how to be passive receivers of men’s advances

Yes, always be leading the interaction.

[–]MrBellsprout123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was on a sub and there was a girl who was pretty lonely and was asking how to get attention from guys. She was venting how she was scared to message guys on OKcupid who were good looking. All the women on the sub were saying "Just message him, what's the worst that can happen."

I actually think this is terrible advice. Sure its true, but having been on OKcupid myself when a fatty mcfatty messages me I just ignore her. I told her "Lose weight, and you won't have to worry about how to message guys, because they'll be messaging you ;)).

I never got a response, I hope she listened to me.

[–]tolerantman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They won't talk about how to keep a high SMV man, but they sure will complain and whine if a high SMV dump their asses

[–]toothemoon8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you were in a support group for women and they were talking about... What they had been through... And were not interested in how often you lift at the gym... So sad. How dare rape victims not look at your biceps. My ex is in prison for almost beating me to death. But please tell me more about how you want me to bark like a trained redpill seal.

They didnt talk about it because they have many other things to worry about. Getting laid just isnt an all encompassing quest for them like it is for redpill men.

And do you really want a woman chasing after you??? Because yes we are different. We want babies. Do you want to have them chasing after you for child support? Because thats what i worry about and thats when i hit up the ex late night. Im like wheres my fucking money bitch! Mother fucker would just as soon let his kids starve to go get other pussy. I have kids to feed. I dont give a shit about your high value slut abs.

[–]Popular-Culture points points [recovered]

Women don't need a sexual strategy subreddit because they have it easy in the sexual marketplace.

People come to TRP because they can't get laid. Women can get laid easily. Stop equating male and female sexual strategy.

[–]CaptainCringeworthy points points [recovered]

Woman can get easily laid by a low smv man. But to seduce a high smv man they have to actually know what they are doing. And most of them do not.

[–]FreeRadical5 12 points13 points  (5 children)

"Seducing a high smv man" requires nothing other than not being fat, putting basic make up on and existing. They already know how to do all that.

Keeping a high SMV man on the other hand is a much more difficult task and there is no lack of discussions and complaining about "fuckbois", "players", "jerks" and "why do they always leave".

[–]schizoBrother points points [recovered]

No, most of them have no clue how to get a high smv man. All they know about it is being hotter than the next bimbo and pretending that they're not bimbos.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Getting laid by, and getting the commitment of a high SMV man are two different things. Most women don't want to charm a man with compliments and acts of service. That's what Women expect to receive and they've convinced themselves that doing it for a man is servitude.

The first step is the only step for a lot of women. 'let him have sex with me', and after that they expect to start extracting resources, and for betas that works. But if you have sex readily available, or just abundance mentality, then you're not giving away the resources for just sex.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Correct. Mods, award a point here.

[–]LLL3peat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Refer to getting a high SMV man as the same as any guy wanting a woman for dating How to get the popular guy from high school, how to bang the cheerleader. You are looking into it too much. It's the same for men and women really. Women want commitment, men want sex.

1) be attractive 2) be an interesting person and have hobbies 3) don't be needy 4) don't be broke but have enough money to have fun

That's all it takes to get in the door and get someone to stick around. What applies to men applies for women.

[–]Upoopinmybutt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How is this sub on the front page?

[–]landmonster400 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The girls who are worried about that aren't on reddit, they're on insta and twitter and cosmos website. They do this more and harder than trp does