Blue Pill ExampleOnce you take the Pill, the Lens will never leave you (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by mnemos_1

First post, not much to say, merely wish to share a relevant observation.

Here I sit in a local coffee shop, finishing off some work due for later. One table across from me, an HB7(roughly - you could probably paint a small portrait with the amount of makeup she has on) is gushing about her love-life to her dutiful Beta orbiter.

It's clear as day that this guy wants to fuck her - his body-language is practically yelling his wish to phase through the table and into her vagina. Equally clear is how aware of this she is, and how she's deliberately exploiting it to use him as her emotional tampon. Her entire demeanor proclaims "Validate me well enough, and I might deign to favour you with my affections."

I'd taken a break from the forum recently, fallen into an LTR and watched in mild horror as Billy Blue-Me slowly made his reappearance. This bitch and her emotional fluffer have certainly served as a wake-up call - the Narrative you're sold by TBP crumbles the moment you're faced by the hard reality of RP truths playing out before your very eyes.

Truly, there is no going back.

Edit: Added flair

[–]lopsidedlucky 137 points138 points  (20 children)

You've got some great things to look forward to the further you internalize the red pill. You'll then see it everywhere as you get more tuned to the subtler parts of how women work. It can be hard the deeper down the rabbit hole you go.

The good part is that once you have even part of the "red pill lens" it will serve to regularly remind you of how the world really is whenever you start to slip. Soon you internalize it so well that you catch your blue pill creeping up within minutes and you won't even be angry. You'll smile and be proud that you noticed it, you'll be okay with it, tell your blue tendency to take a nap and go on about your day.

[–]asotranq 56 points57 points  (18 children)

Be aware of the presence of confirmation biases though, humans are incredibly susceptible to them and any divisive ideology such as trp can make them more likely to occur. Not saying trp isn't great, it is and it's really helped me the past year but don't turn into a nut job from it!

[–]rook785 39 points40 points  (5 children)

This x1000. There is definitely a dark side to TRP. Make sure you stay away from the more bitter viewpoints and try to stick with the ones that are soundly based in science and evolutionary biology.

[–]BigMunyBigWmnBigFun 196 points197 points  (0 children)

Learn to accept the parts of the pill that are both bitter and true. Pick and choose the parts that work, not the parts you like.

[–]theONE843663 34 points35 points  (1 child)

Too late man I'm already an incel and believe that all women should be made reproductive slaves while only men should run the society in an efficient manner.

[–]sigma272 37 points38 points  (0 children)

The highest form of The Red Pill is watching anime while wearing a fedora (and nothing else). Get on my level.

[–]facelessbastard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As always, take everything with a grain of salt and use moderation. And, be aware of common biases!

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 21 points22 points  (11 children)

This is absolutely true. This place is an echo chamber sadly... you never see "girl stood by me while I had cancer" type stories, even though it must have happened.

And that's the problem... we can't do scientific research into what we say. All we can do is present the alternative to the BP world.

However... what I would say is this: if women are so lovely and perfect and victimised as the BP world says is the case... where is the evidence for that? I don't need to prove TRP. The BP world needs to prove its side of things. And that's going to be tough, because there is a mountain of evidence that suggests it is completely bogus but designed that way by ... and for ... women.

Of the competing theories of gender relations in the world.... feminism at one end... the BP media world fairly close to it.... and TRP at the other end.... which is the best explanation of what is happening?

Who is telling the truth? Who is loyal? Who is doing their best to exploit and destroy their partner after a breakup? Who is putting the most in? Who is getting the most out? Who has reason to lie? Whose behaviour doesn't match up with their words?

What women say about themselves just does not stand up under scrutiny. It was clear to me twenty years ago that women were lying .... and most especially about sex - just from the evidence of the contradictions one woman had to what she said the previous week. The defence "all women are different therefore you can't compare between them" doesn't stand up either. Any man who has dated more than a couple of women can see that they're all playing the same game in slightly different ways. And lying about it..... ohhhh the endless lies to cover their AF/BB strategy.

TL;DR TRP doesn't need to prove we're right, the BP world needs to prove it's right.

[–]--____notfunny____-- 6 points7 points  (2 children)

you never see "girl stood by me while I had cancer" type stories, even though it must have happened.

Would be good to see these stories and put them through analysis, it could actually improve the theory and give new elements to it. So... what do you think about making a flair and "promoting" these kinds of stories ? (please take in mind that I'm a newbie/not so experienced)

[–]Warren_Bates 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you. Unfortunately, I don't believe this really happens outside of fiction or older couples from a few generations ago.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Get some experience around here for a while first

[–]theONE843663 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The BP world needs to stfu and go hit the damn gym

[–]Returnofthemack3 1 point2 points  (5 children)

there are some great women out there, and I can think of a few, but it becomes a lot rarer as you go up in attractiveness. Honestly, I think a lot of trpers would be fine if they wanted 4-6/10s at best. A lot of the most egregious examples of cuntish behavior are found in women 7 and above. It's just a fact. I'm not saying it's always the case, but it's just too easy to be a fucking cunt and get away with it as an attractive women. I've even seen attractive women degenerate over time, because they realize they don't have to be interesting, thougthful or caring ot succeed. IT's sad

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 2 points3 points  (3 children)

ah... but if they were genuinely good women.... then being attractive wouldn't corrupt that.... and therefore there would be good attractive women too.

But they're not genuinely good, they're just being nice because they have to be.

[–]Returnofthemack3 1 point2 points  (1 child)

that's fair, i think that applies to both men adn women tbh

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't understand.

This sub is about sexual strategy and therefore the nature of women and how to get the best of that for ourselves.

"Buh buh buh men are also imperfect creatures" has no place here. I have zero interest in claims of equality or intergender sameness.

[–]Hakametal -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Men, since the dawn of time, have allowed that to happen though... and it's not just because of feminism. There are women out there who are self-aware, and it's usually the ones that have been just as burned as Red Pilled guys.

This sub is indeed turning into an echo-chamber and it's sad. If there is one thing that is 100% real is the Anger Phase, and I believe we've been going through and epidemic for the past year here.

[–]facelessbastard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This.... I couldn't agree more out of personal experience. Thumbs up!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair, all women SAY they will stand by their newly diagnosed men.....

[–]mnemos_1[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks, good sir; I'm certainly looking forward to that day.

[–]brinkleybuzz 34 points35 points  (4 children)

I liken the moment I swallowed the pill to the day I found out as a young boy that Santa Claus didn't exist. Before that day, I assumed that kids automatically got free shit on Christmas just because they weren't horrible people. After that day, the fantasy was over and I realized that my dad had to bust his ass to earn the money to buy those gifts for his kids.

Like kids who believe in Santa Claus, blue pillers live in a fantasy world where women love men and reward us with sex and respect because we're decent people. Red pillers know otherwise, that a woman's attention, affection and access to her pussy are earned through attractiveness, dominance and performance and has very little if anything to do with our goodness.

[–]mnemos_1[S] 14 points15 points  (2 children)

a woman's attention, affection and access to her pussy are earned through attractiveness, dominance and performance and has very little if anything to do with our goodness.

Despite their repeated, strenuous insistence that the contrary is true. Every clickbait listicle-blogger outside the Manosphere always includes "kindness", "generosity" and "thoughtfulness". Trust them to sell the BB side of the deal the hardest.

Edit: formatting

[–]systemshock869 points points [recovered]

Feels>reals is the new ultimate truth. Look at 90% of the shit going on in both sides of the election. It's a shit show and almost everyone eats it up, from the most basic Fox news idiot to the most pompous prick professor at a high brow University.

"I feel like I'm taking crazy pills"


[–]Ganaria_Gente 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This past election cemented just how fucking retarded almost every side of the socio political sphere is.

[–]littleday 52 points53 points  (27 children)

I just got out of a LTR, she was smoking hot. Which made it harder to quit. After her child drowned she turned into a completely different person. Super long story and understandable she became someone else. I did everything i could but there was nothing more I could do. I'm looking forward to getting out there again with RP knowledge and having some fun. I got 2-3 months of travel booked up starting Friday. Gonna be great!

[–]obama_loves_nsa 26 points27 points  (17 children)

Wow that sucks for the kid. Yeh the mothers life is over. Probably best you move on ASAP. RUN don't walk. But in this case I'd give her some positive reenforcement as I ghosted her. She might need it. Drowning is horrible.

But after that DONT RETURN. Glad you've got a nice travel schedule in place

[–]littleday 26 points27 points  (16 children)

Yeh man, we were all over the news and everything(without sharing to much personal details) it was horrible. It's a pity. As much as this subreddit will kill me for saying this, she was an incredible, amazing woman who really looked after me and was an amazing partner and mother. But since then she's gone down hill and it was taking me with her. We've come to an agreement on breaking up, as she had to move back to her home country if we broke up.

So now we cannot physically see each other and her visa is canceled so there is no physical way to get back together.

[–]ShaboiDoubleA 3 points4 points  (14 children)

Im going to kill you for saying that.


[–]littleday 25 points26 points  (13 children)

Can't believe it took me 4-5 years on reddit to get my first death threat. Nice.

[–]Roaring40sUK 10 points11 points  (8 children)

You lucky bastard. What I wouldn't give to get My First Death Threat..

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

"What are you going to do, stab me?" -stabbing victim

[–]SovereignSoul76 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bloody favoritism! He must really think the sun shines out of littleday's ass...

[–]Buchloe 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Consider yourself murdered. Watch your back, brah.

The way you capitalized the phrase, it reminds me of a band name. Move over, My Chemical Romance. .. My First Death Threat is in town.

[–]Roaring40sUK 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah, I go the idea from My Little Pony..

[–]thechaosz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I got my 1st in /r GalaxyNote7

[–]Some1son -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Can you post it for us to see?

[–]Gains100 points points [recovered]

I got 2-3 months of travel booked up starting Friday.

What do you do for a living that allows this lifestyle? Please reply in a pm message

[–]littleday 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm an extreme sports film maker.

[–]lancer000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd treat her more like a mother........ Women always seem to take care of me & buy me stuff...... I like that, since my own mother was a nutjob for 18 years who abused me everyday :(

[–]Fnaut3187 68 points69 points  (12 children)

Not sure if this sounds weird. But, post red pill my biggest achievement is to see right through the bull shit my mom says. I used to get angry and argue/fight with her all the time. Now, I stay calm and tell her directly when she is being unreasonable. Now she knows that she cannot control me and cannot influence my decisions by emotional manipulations.

Truly, there is no going back.


[–]mnemos_1[S] 44 points45 points  (3 children)

I'd have to agree on that count man - for me it was a sign that I'd made proper progress the day I identified something my mother said to my father as a shit-test.

Blew my mind so hard I had to sit down.

[–]1984Survivor 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Totally relatable. The most shocking discovery is that TRP doesn't dissect certain females' behaviour... your mother comes with the package.

I didn't even think to recognize and ignore shit tests (mainly emotional manipulations and guilting) from her until I actually witnessed one.

[–]hawkeaglejesus 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Every woman is a whore, except my mother. But let us not forget that she is a woman too.

[–]Kiltraki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For sure. I knew I had at least swallowed part of the red pill when I started identifying the ways my mum had my dad on a leash and barked orders at him like a dog.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 14 points15 points  (1 child)

The change with my mother is like night and day. I'd over time stopped taking her as seriously as I naturally mature but it was like fast forwarding 20 years once I read TRP.

Interestingly enough my beta brother who is nearly 20 years older than me can't see anything she does, despite my (and sometimes her) clear English language breakdown of what she's doing.

[–]Arroway2357 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

staying calm when facing people who overreact is a very good thing to do not only with women/mom, but more generally with 99% of the population who seems to be completely overrun by their estrogens levels.

[–]hawkeaglejesus 8 points9 points  (0 children)

A boy becomes a man when he learns how to stand up to and set boundaries for his mother.

[–]Buchloe 12 points13 points  (1 child)

For me, I grew up with a single mom. It's been very hard realizing that my mom poisoned me with beta behaviors my whole life. Intentional single moms, out of pride, inadvertently handicap to their children. And the fact that my dad relinquished his power and took a victim mentality in regards to his marriage and kids has been quite the pondrous meditation for me.

[–]ilikemychickenfried 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Dude, I can totally relate to this! I took trp a few weeks ago and I'm finally realizing how much my growth has been stunted from being raised almost only by mother. Kids need a male influence.

[–]jazerac 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Dude, I see the bullshit from my mother, aunt, sister and grandmother. Its almost kind of depressing. Now that I am fairly aloof about it, its amazing seeing their positive demeanor towards me though.

[–]ProfoundSavage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is where it's at! When the anger dissipates. When the blue pill is detoxed from the system, withdrawal comes then goes forever, then we get comfortable with what the truth is without being angry at what is.

[–]The_M0rning_Star 19 points20 points  (0 children)

"phase through the table and into her vagina" hahaha ahh I'm stealing that one.

[–]Daddie0 32 points33 points  (2 children)

I know what you mean. Just a few days ago I saw a post from a divorced women with 4 kids I know on FB. She is traveling and saw shoes in two different colors and just couldn't decide. I thought to myself if only she had a beta sucker to buy her both pair.

This morning I get up and check my phone, first post I see and there is a picture of both pairs of shoes, and another picture of the male companion (beta) she is traveling with. The beta sucker bought her both pair of shoes since she couldn't decide. I laughed out loud.

Hashtag Spoiled was added to the FB Post. She should have added Hashtag Beta and Hashtag Sucker.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 14 points15 points  (0 children)

She can't even appreciate both pairs as much as she would have appreciated one pair and the satisfaction of choosing only one pair.

[–]reneofficial 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The amount of betas on Facebook available to these thirsty women is cringeworthy.

I saw a post the other day from this girl in town who claimed to be the "Queen of (town name)" and she works at Twin Peaks.... I think she thought she was the queen because of the amount of likes these betas give her.

[–]KriegerAleks 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Stare into the void and it shall stare back at you

[–]minorwhite 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I can tell you for sure that this is true. My ex wife spread a whole lot of very ugly rumors about me, and those rumors still affect me to this day. I no longer take anything a woman tells me at face value. The one thing I can truly thank her for.

[–]Roaring40sUK 4 points5 points  (0 children)

the hard reality of RP truths

Embrace it and it becomes a blessing, not a curse..

[–]grewapair 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The other thing you start seeing is what appears to be your smv going higher after 35. Suddenly 32 year old women who never glanced at you are asking for your number.

Then you realize the wall has started to sink in, and they're as disinterested in you as ever. Your wallet, not so much.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

The red pill isn't a thing, you don't take it, spit it back out, or any of the fellgoood euphemisms guys use.

The only difference between now and then, you stop listening to bullshit and get out of your own way.

The rest, just plain old fashioned work.

Also, scant on the details, full of a self-pep talk. you can do better than this

[–]mnemos_1[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

With respect sir, when bullshit is all a man has known, the truth is a tangible, foreign thing, and he makes sense of it as best he is able.

My humble thanks for the criticisms - I appreciate that you took the time to identify them.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Dude, you're here, you're contributing, you don't have to blow smoke up my ass, guys talk with a little passion, it's NBD.

You helped me articulate an observation, iron sharpens iron brother

[–]Borsao66 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"The mind, once expanded, never returns to its original dimensions." - Thomas Jefferson

[–]TRPmc117 3 points4 points  (2 children)

TRP truly changes your view on media forever as well. Last night I was watching Ocean's 11. The entire point of the movie is George Clooney trying to win back his oneitis. I never noticed this when I first saw that movie.

Once you swallow TRP there truly is no going back.

[–]mnemos_1[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'd say that it was media, and fiction most of all, that really started my awakening. In all of the more recent stuff you see how prevalent the feminization has become, and even in earlier stuff you see RP concepts plainly displayed. I think the most hilarious one was while watching Lord of the Rings, and I realized that Eowyn was wet for Aragorn because he was foreign, high SMV Alpha dick.

[–]TRPmc117 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I realized that Eowyn was wet for Aragorn because he was foreign, high SMV Alpha dick.


I watched Ocean's 11 last night and it was painful. George Clooney, one of the highest SMV males on the planet, jeopardizes millions of dollars in an attempt to win back his oneitis who left him. Truly painful to watch and sort of ruined a movie that I once really liked.

[–]555553211 points points [recovered]

Why are you looking at it like it's some "lens" or "philosophy"? Try to see things for how they are instead of walking out of one Plato's cave directly into another.

[–]mnemos_1[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm going to go out on a limb and ask, are we ever truly free of the cave? Or do we merely choose to see a different set of shadows as reality? We see by the shapes the light throws on the world around us, whether that light be from the sun or a campfire.

[–]ArkAngelEV 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Once you go down the path of truth, forever will it dominate your destiny

[–]worktillyouburk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

for me its the shit tests, i see them right away now. stop that shit right away and call her out on it.

[–]arcanezippo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Eh, I'll still notice things like social dynamics between the sexes but I grew up a bit after first reading this stuff and a lot of it is chaff. It's a good start but you can't substitute real life experience with fourm posts. Do what works for you is all I'm really getting at.

[–]holzpuppet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Feel you 100% man it's like you got that cheat sheet on bitches, you go in idle mode and bitches start floating.

(To get to the hottest ones who don't happen to ovulate you need to get out of that idle mode though which is the hardest part)

The most valuable lesson I learned is "Don't Stick your dick in crazy" and "attraction can't be negotiated"

Saved me quite some nerve and also my male dignity.

I just wished someone had showed me this like ten years ago I can't imagine what kinda savage motherfucker I would have become. Woulda shoulda coulda.

Thanks to all of you guys! Seriously

[–]ecosci 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Having options and being a confident dominant man really helps when dealing with female nature those 3 things keep you from falling back into beta hell.

[–]Squillimy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"phase through the table and into her vagina"


[–]Mckallidon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Never. I can not lurk here for months and it's still growing and evolving in my head. Thanks bros. I love (no homo) you guys!

[–]OMG-ITS-LMG 2 points3 points  (10 children)

Wait until you get into race realism, HBD, and the JQ. You'll never enjoy anything again. Thats one lense that carries a heck of a burden.

[–]zacsolomon 3 points4 points  (8 children)

What are HBD and JQ? googled both, only came up with "Jewish question" for JQ.

[–]I_AM_CALAMITY 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it's human biodiversity and Jewish question. Probably an Alt-Righter.

[–]NibblyPig 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What are any of those things? I'm intrigued, already jaded as balls and depressed about the state of the world from mensrights sub as well as TRP, might as well finish me off

[–]OMG-ITS-LMG 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The JQ is jewish question. Its a little tinfoily hat, but it's anothersource of the anti male anti traditional and anti white conspiracy.

HBD is human biodiversity, it essentially boils down to all people are different and you can draw similarities within certain groups. With our society attempting to be ultra egalitarian and ensure eveyone has the same outcome regardless of their strengths and weaknesses, we see that those who can are degraded and brought down so everyone can be on an equal footing. I am soft balling this though, it is all Alt-right stuff, not really meant for this thread. Id recommend doing some research of your own elsewhere.

[–]systemshock869 points points [recovered]

I have read "alt-right" stuff for a while, and I agree with a lot of the practical aspects. Like what you just said about "HBD." (hint: the race obsessed left-wing is the most prominent group of racists in the public eye) I had encountered some racism and nationalism on certain blog sites but I brushed them off as nutjobs and moved on. For the most part my interpretation of 'alt-right' was basically republicans awakening to some progressive (not Progressive™) Libertarian concepts and practical approaches to sensitive topics like race balancing (my term) etc. Confirmation bias? Not totally sure.

It wasn't until the recent election hype that I truly saw "alt-right" as a term in the main stream media - the caricature straw man of ultra racist, nationalist, neo-nazis. This seems to have taken over as the de-facto public understanding. fuck the hive mind.

[–]OMG-ITS-LMG 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We definetly have some Neo-Nazis in our ranks, but they are a minority.

Its good to get into alt-right teachings IMO, you may not agree with their conclusions but it brings about a new perspective and they do voice legitimate grievances.

For laughs look up the YouTube channel murdoch murdoch. That stuff is extremely edgy though, so some may find it offensive.

It was the redpill that first turned me onto the Alt-right and race realism. Infact i think Roosh did a few articles on it (on ROK). They were pretty solid if I remember.

[–]OMG-ITS-LMG 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Theres a red pill reddit for this called theredpillright, should check that out.

[–]flowingechoes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

believing in pseudoscience is no burden

[–]Jimithen 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Been reading through this sub for a week now, how long would you say it would take for me to start seeing through the lens?

[–]rook785 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No amount of reading will make you see it. The reading just helps you identify and make sense of what you're seeing in the real world.

[–]Jimithen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting way of looking at it, thank you for the response!

[–]mnemos_1[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Honestly? For myself it was more a matter of how much of the material I consumed, and how well the concepts introduced linked up with my experiences. I will say that even if you read all of Rollo, Illimitable Man,and Chateau Heartiste in addition to the sidebar and top posts of all time as well as general lurking,you'd still need time to weld it all together and let it click. I'll make a wild stab and say 6 months. Don't quote me though.

[–]Aaronindhouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read the sidebar material. Just reading the forum is not enough. I would say though that what really shook my view initially was 'The Manipulated Man'. It presents lots of things you've experienced or seen others experience in a way you never thought about before.

[–]Child_downloader -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Depends on how susceptible you are to brainwashing and cultlike behaviour I guess.

[–]littleday 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wasn't my child. But she also mothered my child as well, allowing me to continue to work internationally and be able to do what I needed without the restrictions that I had the previous 6 years of being a single father. My daughter and her daughter got along like sisters.

Call it hamstering or what you will, I think there are some areas TRP gets wrong, it's not a black and white situation. You can be flexible with relationships, give up some things to gain others. Again this goes against the whole Red Pill mentality. But hey.

[–]AEsirTro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No it doesn't. Not all women function this way, true. I've met women with good jobs and educations and their average fun men, women who clearly didn't dream of alpha dick or money. There are no rules without exceptions. Doesn't mean it's not true for a majority of women though.

[–]plubb -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

So, will you give us a video or at least write down what these two actually said, so that we can judge ourselfs if what you believe to have witnessed is true or not? Otherwise this is just a really useless post.