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Blue Pill Example70% of Tinder Losers (users) have never met ANYONE in real life. (self.TheRedPill)

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According to new research from Lendedu only 30% of Tinder participants have ever actually met someone on the site and the other 70% are just wasting their time.

But it gets better.....

45% of Tinder users use the app for so-called "confidence boosting procrastination" aka an ego boost. And guess what Gender these users are?

On top of this, less than 5 percent are actually looking for a relationship. And if you add up the 45% and the 5% you get 50% - which I believe we can assume to be practically the entire female userbase.


[–][deleted] 484 points485 points  (45 children)

I don't even see real people on Tinder anymore. Every woman looks like a model and went to New York University or is a student at Student.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 102 points103 points  (17 children)

The ones who went to "New York University" I've often noticed are fake, as they have stolen pics of Ukrainian women (beautful, of course). I saw quite a few of those on there.

[–]askmrcia 34 points35 points  (2 children)

New York University is the main one, but there others like California University.

I'm just glad that I wasn't the only one experiencing this. The last two times I was on the app I swiped left on 98% of the profiles because they were fake.

Usually if they have a grainy picture, hi-res model picture, 3-4 pics only and from New York University or some odd university then its most likely going to be fake.

In any case, I stopped getting on the app unless I'm taking a dump.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I have browsed foreign introduction sites enough to instantly recognize Ukrainian women dating site pics.

Yeah, the pic quality is a dead giveaway also. I didn't see them the first time I used it but last time (recently) there were a huge number on there, and I got 1-2 bot matches also.

[–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"California University"--that's awesome. Isn't that where Brandon and the rest of the crew went to school in the original BEVERLY HILLS 90210?

[–]PM_ME_UR_RP_T_AWAY 44 points45 points  (11 children)

If they are from a large or ivy league university out of state, I automatically swipe left. If their pictures aren't mostly selfies, I swipe left. If they have a suspicious phrase like "not your average tourist" that keeps popping up all if a sudden (I call the POTM or Phrase of the Month) I swipe left.

Its gotten to the point where in my area there are so many bots I was swiping right on anyone that was real as long as they had a picture. Then I noticed all the fatties I accidentally swiped right on, and thought about how over a few months of tinder id only gotten like three dates.

I just deleted it. Not worth it around here, or at least not for me yet. I will say the hottest girl Ive banged was one I met on tinder. And it was fun with her too, she practically gamed herself.

[–]Hamster_S_Thompson 15 points16 points  (2 children)

I use Happn now. They all seem mostly real.

[–]DontEatTheFish25 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Do you live in a bigger-ish city? My home town's population is just over 100k and I found a single, solitary profile in just under a month of using that app. It was a real person, to be fair, but only one profile in almost a month? I guess it's not hurting to have it on my phone but I gave up checking it pretty quick.

[–]coolred8611 8 points9 points  (7 children)

What are the purpose of bots? I hate them.

[–]Tenth_10 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Making money out of gullible men, for the dude who set those bots up. Like, calling a supertaxed number or the like.

[–]Cookiest 12 points13 points  (1 child)

They direct lonely men to cam sites.

[–]Rhynovirus 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I don't get why Tinder has such a hard time cleaning up their house.

[–]says_harsh_things 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I suspect that because of 80/20, there are large sums of men that would very quickly give up if the reality of their situation became clear - that no one wanted them. By no one, i dont mean barely abyone, i mean 0 matches. Thats got to be pretty demoralizing.

From a buisness standpoint (i dont know too much about tinder specifically but i am guessing) those are probably the most profitable users- the ones that spend a lot of time on the site looking for matches and seeing ads.

By getting a bot-like every once in awhile, it keeps the dream alive. Ashley madison 2.0.

[–]CumForJesus 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That's what he is saying, unless I missed something.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, I was just adding to his comment. I thought it was interesting to see pics of slavic women used for it, but not really surprised.

[–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (13 children)

I don't even see real people on Tinder anymore. Every woman looks like a model and went to New York University or is a student at Student.

Lol! This or the new "Send me 5$ and see what happens" thing

[–]bittr_n_swt 13 points14 points  (11 children)

Lmao I've just seen this right now

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (5 children)

It's a weird new thing that's popped up. Like suddenly over a day. I think it's a new tactic for bots to collect money, rather than sending you to a weird website, they just ask for money straight up.

[–]LordThunderbolt 12 points13 points  (4 children)

No it's actual people. There's an article about it.

[–]taylepathy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

shit send me 5 dollas and see what happens.

[–]BassNet 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Yeah me too, what the fuck is that

[–]PainfullyGoodLooking 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Some girl posted on twitter that she had that as her bio. Desperate guys would Venmo/paypal her $5 thinking they would get something out of it, then she unmatched them instantly.

Girls everywhere saw the opportunity to take advantage of some pathetic losers and make some easy money.

[–]Masonjarteadrinker1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Lol I literally saw that yesterday and that bitch sent me her paypal, suckers actually send money I bet, poor bastards.

[–]BeijingTurkey 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yup. And they all tend to be the same distance away. For me it's 3 miles

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I love the ones that also read "google" or "USA Today" for the their job. haha

[–]disposable_pants 82 points83 points  (21 children)

Come on now, this isn't anything new. It's the principle of the 80/20 rule, and it's magnified because it's online. The best-looking guys do great on Tinder, and merely good-looking guys can do OK if they play their cards right.

That's not a knock on Tinder -- it's how dating works everywhere now.

[–]crimsonkodiak 28 points29 points  (11 children)

That and most guys don't bother to spend the 15 minutes it takes to figure out how to design their profile and then implement the necessary changes. They just see women throwing up bathroom selfies and assume that that's what will work for them.

[–]disposable_pants 15 points16 points  (10 children)

Easiest two changes to improve a Tinder profile for a guy -- make sure you have no bathroom selfies, and put something witty in the text box. Both stuff that men don't care about (a hot woman is a hot woman even if she posts a mugshot, and no guy lives and dies over what she says about herself) but women do.

[–]shubhidoobi 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I had a bathroom selfie(gym bathroom, showing 6 pack) which worked for me. I had a match once tell me I look hot in there and I must hear that a lot(she was drunk when she typed it). PS: I'm from India so its not very common here.

[–]disposable_pants 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Shirtless selfies​ work well if you have a great body, but most guys don't. For your typical guy they're going to do more harm than good. Attractive people get away with stuff that makes average people look douchy.

[–]shubhidoobi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You maybe right, you need otter body to click shirtless pics.

[–]redditaccountyep 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Idk man, no disrespect but I gotta say this is not true. 2/3 of my pics are bathroom selfies (one shirtless) and for about a 2 month period I was slaying 7's left and right. I don't really use it now because it really is a number game and it takes some time.

[–]disposable_pants 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Shirtless selfies​ work well if you have a great body, but most guys don't. For your typical guy they're going to do more harm than good. Attractive people get away with stuff that makes average people look douchy.

[–]2jz240sx 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Are closet selfies ok? Mine seems to be working :)

[–]The_Gentleman_Thief 22 points23 points  (1 child)

If you're in the closet, you should be on Grindr, bub

[–]2jz240sx 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Haha.. it's literally in my closet .. a full body mirror.

[–]Mail_Order_Lutefisk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, you've got to understand hypergamy and how to demonstrate your superiority to the betas on there. Most guys don't get that, so even if they try hard, it is some half-assed attempt at peacocking by posting a pic of themselves with a tiger or something lame.

[–]twatbutters 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's the price you pay for not being in the top 10-20% of men, aesthetically. You're either that fat/scrawny loser who needs to marry or LTR a post-wall hag, or you're the Chad who goes through at least 10 women a year because it's that easy.

[–]reptile420 13 points14 points  (4 children)

I agree! I still kill tinder and bumble; I pick up a new plate once a month at least. It's pretty minimal effort as well.

[–]cxj 9 points10 points  (2 children)

My friends younger brother is a 23 year old part time male model and he let me swipe through his tinder. It was like 90% matches and the girls messaged him first lol. Granted this was in SF where women are realllllly uninhibited but still it was crazy to see. He was annoyed with me for swiping right on so many sub par girls but after a minute I just wanted to see if he would even have any non matches, which he laughed at

[–]SgtBuchanon74 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Was that before or after he creampied your asshole?

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 130 points131 points  (38 children)

And if you add up the 45% and the 5% you get 50% - which I believe we can assume to be practically the entire female userbase.

With you up to this point. I very much doubt females make up 50% of Tinder.

[–]DoYouEvenBrewBro 33 points34 points  (0 children)

10% actual female bulldogs, 40% tinder owned cam bots, 50% real dudes.

[–]Aesthetikal 73 points74 points  (29 children)

Actually, every study shows that women make up OVER 50% of tinder. Look it up

It's just that they are 10x more selective on their swipes so it appears they are the minority when in reality they aren't

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Tinder 50/50 apparently, by number of signups:

https://www.bustle.com/articles/154205-heres-how-many-women-vs-men-use-tinder

However men sign up to Tinder to meet women and get laid. Women sign up to Tinder to get validation and free drinks.

Men don't sign up to these things to get validated because it doesn't work - women do not validate men in the same was as the reverse. Women are passive, there's little free validation out there for men.

[–]Gawernator 5 points6 points  (0 children)

there are a huge number of female spam accounts, so even if it is 50/50, maybe half of that 50% is not a real woman.

[–]bullseyed723 88 points89 points  (25 children)

Bots and gay dudes posting as women to collect dick pics aren't women.

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[–]bullseyed723 28 points29 points  (3 children)

First, I laughed at how ridiculous this sounds.

Then I realised that this might actually be a real thing.

Dude. Dude. DUDE.

Yes, it is a real thing. Ever cybered some hot looking chick who was reaaaally into anal and wanted you to talk in detail about it?

You were most likely cybering with a dude.

They can get tons of selfies from chicks anywhere online, send you pictures claiming it is them. If they're not verified and/or you haven't Skyped with them enough to be sure... no way to tell.

That is (or maybe was) the main reason people crap on internet dating. Even outside of catfishing, traps are a thing too.

[–]KingCobra4 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A lot of is probably just trolling. If I'm a sophomore in high school, what's stopping me from making a fake account with pics of supermodels and leading on 30 year old losers for fun?

[–]PM_ME_UR_RP_T_AWAY 23 points24 points  (14 children)

Yea, its a real thing. Gay dudes exist, some are desperate and creepy, and a lot have a fetish for straight guys.

To let you know how creepy most of them are, my brother (who is gay and not creepy) told me he regularly gets messages on grindr asking for sexual favors in exchange for money. Usually from guys 30 years older than him who he says explicitly he isn't interested and to stop messaging him in his profile.

But they do anyway.

[–]MagicGainbow 9 points10 points  (5 children)

Word, every once in a while I put up an ad on craigslist, but even when I explicitly say im straight and thus not interested in gay guys they message anyway.

[–]LordThunderbolt 1 point2 points  (3 children)

You ever banged anyone off CL?

[–]MagicGainbow 2 points3 points  (2 children)

A few times, its somehow more entitled than the rest of online dating.

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They want the ego boost of "converting" you. I'm so desirable that straight men want me too.

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[–]slay_it_forward 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It is. I fell for it....once.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That reminds me of the second time I realized I was fucking a tranny!

[–]BusterVadge 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sadly yes it is, all over the internet. When I was dating I would always run an image through tineye or google images to see if they were using a stolen pic.

[–]HomeHeatingTips 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'm guessing most of the fake profiles are women as well. So while 50% of profiles are women, I doubt the active userbase of women is anywhere near that of men.

[–]skoobled 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The validation machine makes it highly likely the app doesn't have the usual heavily male tilted dating service profile

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[–]MazMazda3 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Dude... That's so uncool! But I guess if they're stupid enough to fall for it, they deserve it. They're learning a priceless lesson for a mere $5.

[–]103342 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Do you think it is more or less than 50%?

From what I observe from my acquaintances, men use it for a couple of months then give up. Women use it for much longer because it is much more dynamic for them.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I think me intending to hook up on Tinder is way more than women looking to hook up on Tinder.

Women use it for much longer because it is much more dynamic for them.

Dating is a net benefit to women (financially and emotionally). Dating is a net cost to men (financially and emotionally).

[–]spencerc25 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Dating is a net benefit to women (financially and emotionally). Dating is a net cost to men (financially and emotionally).

I loved the way you worded this. Wow never thought about it like this before, but so true.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 59 points60 points  (33 children)

Not exactly surprised. I learned the hard way that it's basically:

  • Fully of single older women wanting "something real"
  • Girls who collect matches, and don't want to meet
  • Girls who have old pics are a chunksters in real life
  • Fat 4/10 girls looking for a sugar daddy - which is ridiculous
  • SJW types who look like they've been beaten with a silly stick
  • The "my friend said I should try this" time waster type

That being said I did meet a few, although the women you meet are as expected: often entitled, overweight, and just not that cool. Some are ok.

I hooked up with a skinny Asian girl who does cocaine and weed on there, was interesting to say the least.

You have to asses if they're for real early on or you can end up wasting a week of your time for a woman who ends up flaking like all the others. One even told me "Don't worry, I''m not a flake like the other girls" and proceeded to flake on me.

I'm always on the look out for real tips and strategy - going to redo my approach next time.

Also, I use a throw-away email so I can delete/restart my Tinder-only Fcebook account if I want to start over with a new profile/restart my matches again.

[–]disposable_pants 35 points36 points  (1 child)

you can end up wasting a week of your time for a woman who ends up flaking like all the others

If you've spent a week chatting with a woman before meeting, you're wasting time even if you actually end up going out somewhere eventually. The end of your first Tinder conversation should be "let's grab a drink/go to the park/do something in person." If you've built a bit of a rapport and she turns you down then, she'll have turned you down a week later, too.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I didn't come across as needy but damn I wanted that tight young thing so much I shouldn't have but I did waste a week, on and off.

Lesson learned!

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (18 children)

I work with a chick who is a legit hb1. Literally hideous and repulsive. I would vomit if I smelt her pussy. I came across her on tinDer this weekend and she managed to edit herself up to probably a 3-4. After that, Im done. If she can jump 2 or 3 spots, any girl can.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (1 child)

I met this girl in one of my classes. Tall, overweight, short overdyed hair. She had the curves that would be comparable to the shape of Spongebob. Saw her on Tinder and was a legit 6. Went from like a 3 to what could be misconstrued as a 6 just from deceiving camera angles, use of makeup, and good lighting. Blew my mind because I had never really seen it to that effect.

[–]coolred8611 9 points10 points  (6 children)

Damn, an HB1...that's rare as hell.

[–]partysandwich 12 points13 points  (4 children)

does it even deserves the HB prefix at that point?

[–]Wraithwain 16 points17 points  (1 child)

We should make a new standard for HB.

  • Hideous Bod 1-3
  • Humdrum Bod 4-6
  • Hot Bod 7-10

[–]killking72 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I just prefer the Patrice system. 1-10 is ugly bitches, 11-20 is aight bitches, and 21-30 are beautiful bitches. And break that down to 1, 11, and 21 being ugly, and 10, 20, and 30 being beautiful. So a 21 is an UGLY beautiful bitch.

Friends and I add on the standard school grading scale(A,B,C,D,F) for personality.

[–]coolred8611 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LMAO, pretty much no. But it calls for uniformity. Even in my everyday life, I've never seen anything lower than a HB4, unless it's an internet picture of someone deformed. Hahaha.

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[–]asylum1968 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Its really easy:

1) Are all her pic's close-ups of her made-up face?

2) Does she have visible collar bones ?

3) Does she have ANY full body pic. There is precisely a 0% rate of hot chicks who dont have at least one full body shot on their profile.

[–]Gawernator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, and are the pics natural lighting or filtered etc? Angled? Just going off of full body pics alone pretty much weeds out fatties. Sometimes they'll even post full body pics and save your time.

[–]spencerc25 2 points3 points  (0 children)

you can plug in phone numbers into facebook too if you want to go private investigator mode. not guaranteed they have their # attached to their account, but I'd say it's been about a 60-70% success rate for me (of finding their profile just by phone #).

[–]Alphadestrious 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This.... This is the smoking gun bros. Fuck that shit, yeck

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Ugh, that's rough. :(

Yes I've learned you have to get a Snapchat pic or something, but even then the images can be "softened" to hide many of their flaws. I've been burned several times.

They looked ugly in real life. Very demoralizing, I tell you.

[–]rook785 11 points12 points  (8 children)

Tinder works well if you're good looking and have a lot of recent, action shots of you doing things. Girls are selective on it. I'd get a lot of matches and quite a few of them led to meetings. Fun times. I met my current girlfriend on Tinder.

[–]The_Gentleman_Thief 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Bumble is much better for better-looking men.

No homo.

[–]rook785 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm out of the market for now (spinning plates is a lot of work) and in a nice relationship, but I will keep that in mind for when I'm back on the market. Thanks man!

[–]says_harsh_things 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Out of curiosity - why is that?

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is interesting about the "action" shots idea.

Definitely I've learned my photos weren't optimal. I plan to fix that.

[–]CrazedHyperion 2 points3 points  (1 child)

She was right, she was a different kind of flake.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 2 points3 points  (0 children)

~ Exactly! ~

I expect very, very little from women today. They can't seem to up hold the smallest expectations, typically.

[–]ytfromsnwcrsh 128 points129 points  (54 children)

The amount of ugly chicks that swiped me left when by every standard should be crawling at a guy like me is uncanny. I got laid from tinder, but it was a post wall HB6, 41 years old, who still think she was 25 and hot. Also, she claimed "not after hookups" on her profile, yet the first day, she had me at her house, my dick in her mouth.

[–]MagicGainbow 105 points106 points  (7 children)

"not after hookups"

Is generally code for, ''ill fuck you but you better convince me''.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Pretty much anything in a woman's profile is just a shit-test to screen out betas. Chads are free to game normally, no matter what she says there.

[–]coolred8611 13 points14 points  (5 children)

Pure gold. Before I was married, do you know how many times I saw this on different profiles? But because of my BP self, I was like, eh, fuck it. I'll pass.

[–]cop_porn_belly_jeans 15 points16 points  (4 children)

Yup. Never listen to what she says, watch what she does.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 19 points20 points  (3 children)

"Not after hookups, guys!"

*has profile pic of her bending over

[–]cop_porn_belly_jeans 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I can't tell you how many times I've seen this on dating apps.

You can tell they're actually trying if they put effort into their profile, they are usually very long and drawn out.

Even then, for the right guy, she'll bang ya on the first date. I always trust women to be women.

[–]rathyAro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The point of that line is because thirsty mother fuckers actually start with "i wanna fuk u so bad bb" or some dumbshit like that. All they want is to build some attraction before jumping in bed, often during a date.

[–]Plankity 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Bahaha it's like they regretted their last two tinder hookups and are like ALRIGHT IM DRAWING THE LINE by putting not after hookups in their profiles....Only to be drawn back in by that sweet, Stallion D.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (7 children)

that's the problem with women nowadays. when women faced the social stigma of slut-shaming, they'd only give up the milk when a guy committed... no milk for free. this meant that the top 20% of available guys was always dynamic and changing, eventually making marriage and sex obtainable for men farther downranked in the SMP. if you start with a group of 1000 men and 1000 women, and match up the guys ranked 850-950 to women, now the pool is 900 to 900, and the top 20% of guys now includes new guys who weren't previously in the top 20%. repeat over and over again, and eventually 80% of guys and gals match up, including the fatties, bigfoots, and wookies.

but now alphas get the milk for free. instead of providing an incentive to commit, the government has provided a staggering disincentive to do so... the revolving door of sex stops and now you're staring down divorce rape. who the fuck wants that deal? but in the SMP, this causes serious problems for any guy not in the top 20%. with alphas never leaving the SMP, women never readjust their "top 20% of available guys" because the alphas still have that illusion of being available. in the previous scenario, the wookies and fatties would still "hold out" until they get who they deem is in the top 20% of available guys (even if he's just equal to her SMV). but with the top 20% of men not leaving the SMP, the wookies never make it down the SMP ranks. in fact, women don't move down at all. women across the board stay on the market, either intentionally riding the carousel, or chasing after guys who are never going to commit to them, until they crash into the wall. baby rabies starts to set in but they begin to realize post-wall women are losers. some go cat-lady spinster, while others look to lock down a beta, and both groups are popping antidepressants like skittles. even betas are starting to wise up and go mgtow, which is why the generational cohort marriage rate is in freefall. prior generations were at 80% marriage rate before female sexual liberation and no-fault divorce. 80s babies have already leveled off at 60% married, and 90s babies have leveled off at 20% married (prior generations were comparably 70-80% by this time). meanwhile, birth replacement rate for a stable population needs to be ~2.2. BUT millennials, some of whom are now in their mid-late 30s (aka post-fertility for women), are sitting at a dismal 0.8, the lowest in american history.

every successful tribe of humans in modern society has had slut-shaming and monogamy (or at least male-centric polygamy) as a pivotal part of its history. the ones that didnt went extinct. this is why western countries which adopted feminism (especially female sexual liberation) are suddenly so pro-immigration. the natural born citizens aren't marrying or having babies, so these need to bring in immigrants or these populations of these countries will go extinct.

[–]Hjalmbere 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Immigration is not the solution. Feminism is a dying movement. Populations have fluctuated before and trying to save functioning societies by mass importing illiterate goat herders from Africa and The Middle East is a sure recipe for disaster as we can see in Sweden and France.

[–]slay_it_forward 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Which is why western society is fucked. It's just going to keep getting replaced by third world immigrants until eventually it turns into the thirld world. Just like genders, not all races are equal either. Go to any major city and you'll see it segregated by race, and the shittiest parts are not occupied by whites.

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eh it's not so much about the racist shit... it's that feminism, literally in every society that's ever existed, makes that society go extinct. in 200k years of homosapien, there have only been a handful of matriarchal societies that lasted long enough to leave a historical record of their existence, and every single one is long extinct.

[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I thought global warming is real? If so a shrinking population is a godsend. Then why "must" we import third world aliens?

These are all rhetorical questions for the autistic.

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a shrinking population is a godsend

sure, for environmentalism.

the problem is that socialist models rely on mortgaging the future for entitlements of the present. the math is the same as a ponzi scheme. if the population of taxpayers doesn't grow to accommodate the entitlements, the entitlements system collapses. but because the entitlements systems are literally wealth redistribution (instead of systems which actually create real growth), they always face collapse on a long enough timeline -- they'll say "$1 invested in this program now creates $1.10 in the future!" or something like that, but that future period comes up later and the $1.10 was never actually created. this growth-arbitrage engine is always based on lies and propaganda. that's why medicare is already collapsing and social security is mathematically guaranteed to collapse, and we've already seen collapses across greece, italy, and spain. when people stop breeding fast enough, the only way to add more taxpayers to support this stuff is to bring them in through immigration. that's why japan will have serious problems over the next decade.

[–]IndustrialEngineer 21 points22 points  (3 children)

post wall HB6, 41 years old

Hey man, one of my plates right now is a 38 y/o HB6...beast in bed. They make the world go 'round.

[–]slothsenpai 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Exactly, older women may not look as hot as their younger counter parts but fuck are they good in bed

[–]ytfromsnwcrsh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, the sex was good, she knew what to do and still is on my phone book, so I will see her again. She is not ugly or fat, but has this delusion shes still fresh and hot like when she was 25. At dinner she claimed all kinds of values, but when I said I could go to her place for a last drink, she said yes and we had sex that very night. When shes attracted and you dont fall for her shit tests, her morals go out the window

[–]asylum1968 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They do make the world go 'round....just not in the way their pretty little delusional minds may imagine. I call them "slump busters".

Everyone needs one or two that can be called on literally AT ANY TIME to break out of a dry-spell.

[–]theONE843663 36 points37 points  (25 children)

It's cuz.on tinder, there's no real conversation. There's no shame for her to 🍒 pick. She can do that with all comfort. You know it's actually guy's fault this whole situation. Now if only men weren't so thirsty and stopped giving it up for any bitch <= his SMV and only fucked up, women wouldn't have any power cuz they need dick aswell.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 38 points39 points  (6 children)

As much as I despise 4/10s being arrogant and picky, yes definitely it's because they can get away with it.

Women's behavior is "market driven" - if they were getting negative attention they wouldn't be doing this silliiness.

[–]theONE843663 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Imma write a book titled "Claim Your Dick!"

[–]Stopbeingfuckingbeta 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Sounds great is it about a gay man overcumming adversity?

[–]Stopbeingfuckingbeta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds great is it about a gay man overcumming adversity?

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Plus there isn't any worries about getting rejected. I kid you not there was some chick snapchatting #tindermatch lol :) and spy pictures of some ripped dude in underwear. She was maybe a 5 on a good day, this guy had the body i'm after. Just reinforces the market we hear about here and the sidebar.

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[–]TryDoingSomethingNew 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I met a 41 year old who was pretty shapely. Kind of turned off by older women but I wish I had given it a shot. Good chance she would have been a good lay.

So what led to you getting it on the same day?

[–]ytfromsnwcrsh 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I went for that date (dinner) just to see how it goes (that was good state of mind of I dont give a fuck, I have other options) I didnt fall for her bullshit and kept frame, ignoring her words but responding to her body language. If we could have a transcript of that night it would seem like a failure, all the time she was telling me she does not fuck in the first date and me ignoring this remarks and escalating, talking about sex, touching her any chance I had. Kissed her on the table, on the way to the garage we were holding hands, and at her car I said, lets go for a last drink at your place. She said follow me, I have wine...

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 35 points36 points  (11 children)

So much hate on tinder.. im 5'8 only lifted for a year n a half and live in fat chick central in the Midwest.. yet ive met up and first night f closed 7 good looking girls in 6 months.

all that with just a douchey shirtless pic and a bio that makes it obvious im dtf

tinder has been nothing but a blessing lol. low effort lays. what's not to like?

[–]twatbutters 26 points27 points  (0 children)

what's not to like?

The general skinnyfat male population hates the fact that guys like you are getting easy lays while they have to jump through the hoops to maybe get starfish sex after months of dating.

[–]metalhead4 1 point2 points  (3 children)

What do you normally say to start a conversation? I've had success with just saying hey what's goin on or something about how they look. I mean it's hard to stand out with a stupid opener when every guy is trying multiple things all the time anyways. Basically comes down to how you look in your picture doesn't even really matter what you say.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 4 points5 points  (2 children)

my go to lines are (in order of success) :

come cuddle with me im told im really good at it

ur like my pinky toe.. small cute and im probably gonna bang u on my coffee table later tonight

u look like trouble ;)

[–]metalhead4 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Must live in a big city but I feel like around here that's just gonna make you look like a weird try hard or something.

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[–]popmusicc 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Lmao please define what a 7 is in your books 😂

[–]Man_Of_Many 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder in other words people will justify a 4 as a 7 just because they got laid

[–]slay_it_forward 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Most guys aren't fucking good looking girls from Tinder. So it's a waste of time.

[–]yummyluckycharms 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Have to disagree with you on this point, and I would urge caution whenever there is a study that deals with self reporting from an already biased group of respondents. In many ways, its like asking respondents if they smoke - many will say no, but later on at the confirmation question near the end - have you consumed any tobacco products and which ones, many of the people that had said no earlier - selected cigarettes.

I would say that lots of people are using tinder for successful hookups - myself included - just that many women aren't going to come out and say that they are on it for booty calls. Many women do indeed use tinder for entertainment with their girls - hell - you can see it in the bars when their boyfriends are up playing billiards and the girls are just chatting back at the tables.

[–]DesignerTom 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, it's called social desirability bias. It is more prone to happen when people report their own behaviour, and women are more likely to be influenced by this then men. I know because I had for research this for a university project recently.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (4 children)

Tinder is amazing, you just have to live in a big city and know what the fuck you're doing. Right swipe on all except the pure uggo fatties, ask for a drink same night you match and get convo going, and Bob's your uncle.

[–]LuvBeer 1 point2 points  (2 children)

This. London runs on Tinder still.

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[–]askmrcia 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I got a funny story to tell you.

Last Friday I went to a whisky tasting event. Met these two chicks there (HB7, HB6). Started chatting them up about the whiskey they were drinking, body language light way cold despite them being drunk. HB6 was doing most of the talking.

Anyways, I felt the conversation not going anywhere so I left telling them that I was going to get some more whiskey. Ten mins later I see these two chicks with guys they matched up with from Tinder.

How did I know they were from Tinder? Briefly overheard their conversation asking simple questions like "where you work, how you like it here, and its good to meet you finally." I'm guessing it was that Tinder group hangout feature.

I sat there to myself and though hmmmmmm "I did the approaching yet these two girls already had guys there that were meeting them from Tinder."

Anyways eventually left that place and went to a bar on the major strip. I just happened to run into both these girls again without those two guys they were with previously. Chatted them up and did get their numbers. I wish I could tell you guys I took them home that night. Ha nope. They never even messaged back.

I guess my point is, even women you meet in real life are on tinder. Its best to find one in real life that never used it. But most times I'm out at bars or even parties, it seems like a nice chunk of them are on it. I can literally go to any bar and hear them talking about their matches and shit. Or I kid you not, I went to this whine bar last week. There were 4 groups of tinder matches there. You can just tell by the conversations they were having. But then again, I did say I'm going to bars a lot. So that most likely has something to do with it as well.

[–]whodeannny 20 points21 points  (3 children)

Tinder/Bumble are excellent additions to running normally game. Use it for an hour or two a week and it's incredibly easy to grab numbers and meet up. Just look good and don't be a drooling thirsty idiot.

Anyone that complains or disparages a free app just needs to improve themselves.

[–]301niko 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Yeah. I use tinder to collect numbers. Just say something stupid that has an answer. You need to make a hoe want to reply back.

For example she's got a septum. Ask her if it's aluminium and after she answers you just ask her "what's the code?" Shell most likely say what code. Which you just reply: I'll put that code in my phone and then I can call you and text you

Once you get her number wait a day or few and message her: It's Frédéric, we should grab a coffee some time.

TIP: always use a fake name. Preferably some foreign name that will make them think you're some Chad from overseas lol

[–]TryhardPantiesON 18 points19 points  (5 children)

Most women on Tinder know what this app is for, and when you ask them they will telly you "i am here to make friends, not looking for sex", yeah right. They all want sex, but they just don't want to be perceived as sluts, you can't have it all ladies.

Also from all Tinder matches i have ever got * 1 or 2 women texted first * Around 80% of matches never text back, just collect matches * 95% Doesn't want to meet in person, they are just lurking

[–]ECoast_Man 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Most women on Tinder know what this app is for, and when you ask them they will telly you "i am here to make friends, not looking for sex", yeah right. They all want sex, but they just don't want to be perceived as sluts, you can't have it all ladies.

This is really the point here. They actually don't "know" what they're doing. Many say they go on Tinder "just to see" or "make friends", but in reality they're just getting pumped and dumped for the most part. They should know this, but they just don't bother to assess the situation because that would require admitting this fact.

In my experience, which is fairly extensive, most women don't even want to be known as having met a dude on Tinder even if something longer than a ONS comes of it. Pretty much any plate I've had from Tinder wants us to tell others that we met at a bar or something.

[–]metalhead4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol so true. Just goes to show how daft everyone is. A lot more people are on tinder than not I'd say.

[–]NihilistMonkey 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I'm just here for friends is code for "I'm in a relationship but looking for a branch/dick to swing on, and am creating plausible deniability in case he finds me on here"

[–]penis_butter_n_jelly 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Even 'sex positive' girls I know that brag about being sluts say that Tinder is just a pick-me-up ego boost. They have no intention of meeting anyone, its just low effort validation.

[–]Conceited-Monkey 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It is pretty well known that online dating follows the 80/20 rule. If you are a pretty attractive guy it can work well for you, but if not you might as well be invisible.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I was on Tinder for like 3 days before realizing that it was a waste of time.

[–]twatbutters 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're fat or scrawny it is a waste of time. Work on your physique and you'll see how easy it is to get laid with the app.

[–]PDFileKyle 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Well shit, I feel like a mac daddy with the 6 girls I have gone out with, one of which cried when I kissed her pussy.

[–]301niko 3 points4 points  (0 children)

HAHAHA tell me how the hell that happened

[–]Endorsed Contributorsqerl 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Tinder has a secret success rate. There was an article about it on Business Insider.

Highlights from the article:

female photos had an average success rate of 52%
homosexual men have an average success rate of 35%
heterosexual men had an average success rate of 16%

Quote from the article:

There's a big gap between the average success rates of women and men
Analysis by Rentify engineers showed an average success rate for different types of profiles. Heterosexual female photos had an average success rate of 52%, meaning that just over half of the men swiping through Tinder chose to right-swipe and like their profile.

Heterosexual men, however, have a far lower average success rate. Rentify found that heterosexual men had an average of 16%, meaning that less than a fifth of women chose to like their profiles.

And homosexual men were in between the two averages, with an average success rate of 35%.

Rentify only examined around 100 accounts, each with a handful of photos, but the analysis does suggest that heterosexual men have a significantly lower success rate than women.

There's a Tinder Select for only the top 1% too.

Previous studies on OKCupid also showed the 80/20 rule in effect. Another test showed the same profile for 10 accounts, the only difference was the photo.

Millward did find there were huge differences in the attention each profile received. He noticed the two women who were at the top of his attractiveness scale received 581 percent more messages than the other three women combined.

He also found that the most-frequently contacted woman, whom he and the judges had ranked second highest in attractiveness, had nearly 17 times more messages within a week than the most contacted man. The group of five females were also more-frequently contacted than the males, with three men receiving no messages at all over the experiment’s seven day period.

“When it comes to receiving unsolicited messages based on gender and photos alone, women wipe the floor with men, and very attractive women sandblast the floor with the fellas.

The more you know...

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I experimented a lot with my profile over the years and may have fallen into something that works for me. I get about 1 number a week and am 3 months into a semi LTR with a girl from the site. About half the numbers pick up the phone and talk when I call. Here are my unconfirmed theories.

The 80/20 rule applies on Tinder, there is some small section of men that clean up on the app due mainly to looks/wealth/effective pictures. Much has been written about maximizing your pictures, I tried most of it with little difference in results. If you aren't top looks then you have to target differently, narrow down to types, go after those that like to read the profiles.

Drawing girls into reading your details and sending comments is a different style than standard advice on attractiveness and good pictures. Standard advice is all good stuff and you should max out your looks, but most of us aren't top guys.

My pics at the moment are 1) feeding lettuce to a giraffe 2) standing next to dad's gf (I'm 6 ft 3 and shes tiny) 3) selfie in MAGA hat with VP Pence at a rally last year 4) cowboy hat and farmers tan at the beach 5) wearing my shirt and tie while working in the data center. I'm trying to convey 'big personality' and appear unapologetic about being a nerdy redneck conservative type. Before I did this I was trying to appeal to the broader set of girls and had generic pictures of me at parties, at the beach, random selfies. Now I've set myself into types that appeal less broadly but are stronger for certain subsections.

My profile says 'I dont have a silly list of demands and expectations, I just like playing this game and seeing what happens' and then 'Id rather chat with people that are actually interested in meeting, followed by a bullet point list of things I like and how I lean. The last line says "I voted Trump and I'm not sorry" and I think that was the hinge that started getting me responses. I am starting to believe that this is more about weeding out the lost causes and wastes of time than it is about casting a net and pulling them in.

During conversations I follow standard text game advice, cocky funny, short responses, keep it logistical and focused on meeting. The line 'what should we tell people when they ask us how we met' and similar remarks that presume success seem to be working.

I really hope that helps. I wouldnt invest seriously in Tinder, the only time I ever really use the app is when I'm taking a shit.

[–]Returnofthemack3 5 points6 points  (0 children)

this should come as a surprise to no one with a brain, tbh. I have relatively attractive friends that can't snag many dates from those apps, yet irl they can game and fuck attractive women with ease. It goes without saying that if you're not very attractive, you should get off tindr. Any quality other than your physical traits is not allowed to shine on that app, so your success is extremely dependent on superficial characteristics.

And look, people on here and elsewhere will give you tips on 'tindr game' and the kinds of pics you take and display, and while that advice may help you if you're attractive, it's not gonna do much for someone with nothing great going on in the body and/or face departments.

In order to succeed on tindr, you have to have something going for you in a physical sense or you're fucked. Don't listen to anyone that tells you otherwise.

[–]Zirtex 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I did a little test on Tinder where I used two accounts, both pictures of me. But when I was using the new account I was getting matched with locals way more than my old account which is odd.

But Jesus the amount of bots and liberals on Tinder is insane.

[–]sepelion 5 points6 points  (0 children)

An online dating site worth subscribing to would require users to upload a video every two weeks showing the date with women proven source. Too much catfish and fatfish.

[–]KumonRoguing 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I get about 30% of women I swipe right to match. About 80% of those don't reply. Then about half of those ghost after a day. It's good for ending dry streaks but not much else.

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[–]themodsarepricks 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Are you tall, white, and live in a big city? I think those are all hugely important on tinder sadly.

I'm not a big gym rat either (i'm a sigma...and have zero desire to be an alpha)...i'm just a confident, interesting LEADER who lives a life i love. That shit is contageous. Women love guys that love their life. Love your life.

What do you mean by sigma, and what type of things do you do that make you stand out, or that you love.

So, be interesting..and then be yourself. Live an interesting life. Find your thing.

Maybe you can point me in the right direction or give me some ideas on what/how to do that?

Thanks!

[–]Snazzy_Serval 4 points5 points  (24 children)

Yup, I've used Tinder for several months and was never able to get a girl to meetup.

[–]Mail_Order_Lutefisk 4 points5 points  (23 children)

Why do you think that is? Are you working on an oil rig in Alaska or in some other location that skews heavily male? Or are you just completely undesirable/lacking in game? If the latter, what are you doing to up your game?

[–]returnofthemackX 3 points4 points  (4 children)

This comment is important. Take responsibility for your own succes.

[–]kyletatum93 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Step 1 be attractive Step 2 don't be unattractive

[–]Snazzy_Serval 0 points1 point  (16 children)

Why do you think that is? Are you working on an oil rig in Alaska or in some other location that skews heavily male?

Southern California.

Or are you just completely undesirable/lacking in game? If the latter, what are you doing to up your game?

Simply put, I don't know how to make an attractive profile. I've gotten a total of five matches in about as many months.

Upping my game, working on my body and I'm definitely staring to see a change. Better hair style.

I still don't have any decent pictures though.

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[–]Mail_Order_Lutefisk 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Keep at it, man. Doesn't socal have a good ratio after you back out gay guys? Socal is weird, though, because you have to drive everywhere, so the time commitment for a date can be huge. But still, good to see you aren't making excuses. Work on that profile and self-improvement. Good luck!

[–]Snazzy_Serval 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Without going to much into which city I live in there is a lot more single men here than single women. I'm not sure how many men are guy but I doubt it makes a difference.

I actually live in one of the "hip" places of town and I'm within walking distance to many bars and a few night clubs. If I could actually get a girl to come out with me everything would be set.

But no, no excuses. I know what I have to improve.

[–]twatbutters 0 points1 point  (8 children)

I don't know what your physique is like, so it's hard to tell you how to pose.

Generally speaking for tinder profile pictures, you definitely want at least 1-2 photos showing off your low bodyfat (abs+ v line photos are what give me the most success). I have a "fun" photo where I'm holding my dog, then a few of me with different women/fuckbuddies.

If your physique is shit and you're not well dressed, then none of this will work for you. You need the goods before you can close the deal.

[–]Snazzy_Serval 1 point2 points  (7 children)

I'm 5'5, 143 lbs at around 25% body fat. I'm working on losing the fat but it's slow going. It's not easy losing fat and keeping the muscle.

Thanks for the tips. I should be able to put them to use in a few months.

[–]Mail_Order_Lutefisk 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You can have the fat gone in 3 months. Lift heavy. Do a few days of cardio a week. Make sure you have a steady calorie deficit to keep the fat burning, but get a surplus once every 10 days or so. Absolutely positively no refined heavy carbs, refined sugars or booze. You do that and I guarantee you'll be under 12% body fat in 2-3 months.

[–]infiniteslinky 8 points9 points  (6 children)

I had a lot of success on Tinder, and pretty much any dating site I go on. You just have to be to identify real people. Of course the girl with the model pics didn't message you back, or was a bot.

Learn how to message & talk to people. Be interesting, & be attractive.

[–]hstabley 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Most importantly be direct. I usually prompt the girl to come over immediately after she matches with me.

Sometimes it's a matter of timing.

But if you pussyfoot she'll lose interest.

[–]slay_it_forward 3 points4 points  (3 children)

No, most important is being attractive physically and showing some kind of status if possible. Like a pic bartending. If you don't have status, at least show you have a cool social life.

[–]sepelion 2 points3 points  (1 child)

An online dating site worth subscribing to would require users to upload a video every two weeks showing the date with women proven source. Too much catfish and fatfish.

[–]1jb_trp 2 points3 points  (1 child)

People don't meet up from Tinder anymore? Really? While I don't think Tinder is as good as it used to be, I still meet up with 1-2 new Tinderellas every week, and I'm no "Chad."

[–]crimsonkodiak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course they do. This is just rationalization.

[–]DirtyProject0r 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can use this info to find out whether you are top 10%:

  • Have you had a date through Tinder? 30%.

  • Have you fucked someone through Tinder? Probably top 15%

  • You did this multiple times? Top 10%, easily.

[–]DntPnicIGotThis 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Just because you are unsuccessful on tinder or something similar doesn't make you blue pill. It has to do with your approach. There are a lot of bots and catfished on this app but plenty of attractive women who want to bang or settle down but it's all about YOUR APPROACH.

Protip: build a script. Every script should have 3 phases (the greeting, clever/charming/intriguing banter, the close aka get the number) with the goal of securing an actual phone number. Try different things to say in each phase, whichever​ gets you the best response in each phase will be the one that you use going forward.

Protip #2: A women's number is something very personal to them. You do not have to agree with this but it is the truth just accept it. Once you get it the window is open for a meet up but slowly closing constantly. This is where you convince her that you are not an axe murder and if you guys meet up it will not be a waste of her time. Keep the convo light but feel her motives out as she will be doing the same for you

Protip #3: once you got her out in the wild BE YOURSELF. Even if that self is somewhat awkward. And let your intentions be known. Be clear but don't be a douche about it. If you get this far and she is not on board, that's cool try again with someone else after tweaking your approach.

Be realistic. It can be done. I struggled heavily at first but now Im confident if I can get them to say hello I can get them to "come check out the view" from my apartment. It all takes practice.

Edit...It seems like I'm saying a lot but in actual practice the whole exchange on the app is 7 to 10 message exchanges before I get the number depending on if she's chatty or not.

[–]LuvBeer 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Great post bro. A/B testing, KISS ftw. I started out with a date which layed the ground work for a second date lay, then tightened it to a one-hour date with a same day lay and my current date takes about half an hour to where she needs to make a decision if she wants to fuck or not. I don't get my feelings hurt if she doesn't, I just saved hours of time and lots of money other guys are wasting to likely get the same result. And my close rate is pretty good.

[–]Aaronindhouse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In my eperience tinder has more flakes and fakes. OKcupid has served me better. I think its worth having several apps on your phone and see which seems to work better for your area.

[–]HootieMane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I fall into this category, but damn I can barely find anyone to even swipe on within 60 miles and I'm sure the female users are inundated with profiles to swipe on even with their settings at a 10 mile radius. When I visit larger cities I always get matches with women much more attractive than I expect to match with but I'm usually busy with family events. One more reason I want to move to a larger city once I finish school in May.

[–]Dead_Art 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never met anyone while Blue Pilled, it was only after I naturally came across red pill idea's that I even enjoyed the app. Until then I was too nervous to "bother" her.

Once I watched Eric Andre and Hannibul Buress trying to purposefully fuck up eachothers Tinder I just started saying shit like "gurl i wanna buy you a fish sandwhich, what's youre credit card number?"

[–]NakedAndBehindYou 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On top of this, less than 5 percent are actually looking for a relationship.

Tinder is a hookup app. If you are looking for a relationship on it, you are looking to enter a relationship with a proven slut.

[–]Noveno 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I only can disagree with you guys. For me works fucking good. The best girls of my life are from Tinder, I've been using for 4 years and it helped me in my starts in the rdp and helped me going from quantity to quality. I'm still using it only for +H9. Also if you are very picky with girls it works wonders. The only bad thing about Tinder is that it usually wont work if you don't follow rule 1 and 2.

[–]civilitarygaming 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I should build a tinder clone that solves this problem. If you don't meet up with people you matched then you would end up not being shown to people as much as people who actually met up with others. What do you guys think?

[–]Slut_Slayer9000 4 points5 points  (6 children)

I've probably met around 60 girls from tinder. And fucked around 40 or so of them (I don't keep exact count anymore), but I don't feel like I'm in the top 10% of guys on tinder. I would say I'm around the top 20% defintely top 30%. I'm tired of fucking 6-7's and want to up my game to 8,9, & 10's so I've since deleted all my dating apps and will remake once I get abs and my new apartment all set up how I want it (I still cold approach when I'm out with my friends but its not even close to my main objective when I'm going out). Then ill easy be in the top 5-10% of men on tinder. Yes I'm white, muscular, pretty face, but I'm just under 6ft (5'11") and I live in a major city.

[–]Verne89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pareto Distribution aaall the way along man https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_distribution

[–]skoobled 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty crazy. I wouldn't pretend to be some kind of champion, but have had quite a lot of results in the past, although rare nowadays. It's very region specific. Talked to another guy who said he'd NEVER got a single match. And I wouldn't call him particularly less attractive than me

Nowadays, Internet dating is pretty dry. It doesn’t hurt to keep a minor toe in the water, but I don't take it very seriously

[–]rossiFan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Buddy of mine gets plenty of dates from Tinder.

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I never get matches on tinder but lots of girls post their snapchat names in their bio so I add them. Most of them respond to me on snapchat.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you have the link to the study?

[–]Kruppstahlterminator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can confirm this. Tried some apps for a while and even had some chats. Turned out all of them were there, because they were "bored", some even were in relationships without being interested in hooking up.

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