Red Pill ExampleThundercock Frame Control (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK

a.k.a. The last 3 COLD openers that got me laid; and the NEW, BEST way to think about initiating conversation with girls you don't yet know.


  • Introduction
  • Eye fucking
  • “I fucked your mother"
  • “There has been a complaint"
  • Conclusions


(Dont judge me for posting on a Friday night; I fucked up my leg)

At the end of this post I will teach you why this works and how I approach chatting up girls at night/evening (different to day game). You will see that much of it is about creating opportunities for women to shit test you by baiting them. Then you demonstrate total frame control and build attraction.

This is a natural application and continuation of the top post of all time on theredpill - "37 warlord tips for frame control". I reread that post about a dozen times after I saw it come out as it DEEPLY resonated with me. I thought about all the times I was given an unbelievable amount of shit by a girl, remained stoic, and then she was instantly DTF. It AMAZED me when that happened, but I never figured it out - sure maybe she should have seen me as stronger emotionally or whatever, sure, but why did it make her panties so wet that I could take her into a bedroom and fuck her within 10 seconds!? At 2pm with a girl I had never even kissed before?!. NONE of that had been explained properly before in PUA and redpill. I thought shittests just were like fitness tests, or DHVing about your life experiences and job and network. But THAT post hit me like a sledgehammer: beating frame-tests builds actual sexual attraction in that moment!

I ALREADY knew that a girl giving you Shit-tests was a GREAT thing. As it lets you to show off. But how can I effortlessly force or bait a woman I dont know to shit-test me, when I am in control of the conversation (because I am opening or alpha)? For some GODDAMN reason nobody here, or any other place has been PROPERLY talking about this.

Before we go on note that: SHIT TESTS are just a SUBSET of the greater realm of FRAME TESTS.

I had already learnt subconsciously that telling boldfaced lies to women and maintaining frame enabled me to hookup with attractive women at parties, bars and clubs. At university I mostly used social circle game as I was popular, but all of the successful ONS and impromptu hookups were nights when I felt I was 'on fire'. After much self-analysis I realised that I was often bullshitting the girls and playing games, making up stories that they couldnt quite tell were true or false. I realised that this was delicious bait for them to shittest me. And by staying 'in character' I was showing them a lot of frame control. They loved my frame and so did their friends. They love trying to figure out why I was doing what I was doing and what was true and what wasnt.

"Finally an interesting guy here to talk to" they will think. Even better, they can tell their friends about whatever ridiculous interaction they just had. So even if you are a cunt they get to go up to their friends and tell them what a cunt you just were, and they get attention from their friends. Its exciting for them.

Before we go on note that I am 6'0 tall, white, decent face, nice hair, wear a leather jacket and smart trousers, and was kind of skinny up until a year ago and now I am average but growing, in my 20s, about 70 notches now. Thats all they ever know as I dont talk about my job or work with them.

Eye fucking

This is only partially to do with frame control but its how I often start things. These days I eye-fuck girls all the time. They sometimes look up, sometimes down, sometimes to the side and sometimes they maintain a constant stare. I always make sure that any cute girl sees me looking at her. I’m decent looking so its never creepy. Sorry uglets.

When they give a constant stare, and don’t turn away, they are basically DTF, I just have to game them a little and qualify them.

I like these stare-downs as they let me scope out a whole bar, get a feel for the place, who might be available, and how shy/outgoing/bitchy they will be. Its also great as you dont need to leave your group of friends.

I did it two weekends ago to a girl on the other side of a busy bar. 8/10 blonde. We stared for about 6 seconds. I then winked and pouted. She then turned to her friend and pointed to me while smiling. I then did a ‘come hither’ hand signal. She raised her eyebrows as if to say ‘no you come here’. I then made a kiss face and tapped me neck, telling her to come over and kiss me on the cheek/neck. I also did a watch-tapping motion showing she had a timeline to do it in. I continued to talking to my friends who didn’t see any of this, and she came over and kissed me intimately on the neck. They were all taken back. We chatted and I get push/pulling her and making her jump through jumps and qualifying. Got her number because it was only 6pm and I had to go to a birthday dinner. Slept with her the next day.

Remember that the person to look away first is always the loser. And if you ever give a look like “wtf are you looking at” what I do is some silly shoulder jiggle and a head flick (non-gay looking) with a deadpan face - it always gets some sort of laugh, but if it didn’t then she would just be stuck-up and boring anyway. And your frame is just that you are 'fucking with her'.

I fucked your mother

On a cruise ship 3 weeks ago I was in a nightclub/bar. Didn’t know anyone and danced with lots of people. At one point I took some princess crown a girl was wearing and eventually she got it back. I talked to her later and asked “Who are you here with?” and she said her mother and grandmother.

I said “wait what is your mothers name?!” and she said “XXXX” then I said “yeah, yeah I know her” . She said “what?! how?” and I said “We were hanging out earlier at XXX; she has shorter hair than you right?” (thats a cold reading trick btw). Girls says “what?” and is puzzled and I say “Yeah then, you know, one thing just lead to another I guess”. Girl says “what?” and is still puzzled but laughs. Then I say she needs to pick up her necklace she left in my room.

I’ve used this before lots and lots of times. It works really well especially on younger women for some reason. It allows you total frame control, very very easily. So many options and ways to hit her. “You are acting just like your mother right now”, “actually she provides my emotional needs and I provide her sexual needs”, “I do a lot of exercise but she leaves me out of breath”.

  • Its very easy to have sexual conversations as it has the pre-tense that you are only mocking the girl and not trying to make sex the subject.
  • Its very easy to get them to open up about their family. (After all you know one of them intimately!)
  • It gives you a solid frame very very easily. Make sure you never back down and say “I’m joking” or even change your story. If you do then its all over.
  • Advanced: She will actually subconsciously try to Frame Test your story and try to force you to make contradictions.
  • If she asks you specifics that will prove you are telling a lie then give a vague answer that can be true. e.g. “What does she look like?” “she looks like you but with a kinder heart”. “OK but what distinguishing features does she have?” “she has a mole next to her labia”. “OK but how tall is she?” “We are all the same height when we are lying down on a bed"
  • Its cocky/arrogant
  • It lets you display Fake Weaknesses - “she breaks my heart when she doesn’t let me stay over"
  • You can get the girl to think about her relationships and she will feel like its been a deep conversation, while it also has been light hearted.

I had sex with her that night and the next night. She was a 9/10 20 year old blonde bombshell and she was a stripper part-time to pay her way through college. So she knew some top tier shit-tests herself. “I fucked your mother" blew her out the water. She also had a boyfriend back home and had to try to explain to her mum (who thinks she is a virgin or something) where she was for 4 hours both nights. So we overcame a LOT of logistics including having to have sex in a hot tub because neither of us had a free room. That only happens if she is attracted!

I kept using that frame the entire two days too. Never surrender a good frame.

“There has been a complaint"

I eye-fucked a girl from across the pub on Saturday. We held contact for a while. She then give me this hand gesture and I laughed: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/AaJfuG0Rhq4/hqdefault.jpg

I go up to the bar and order a drink, hoping she will leave her friends and orbit near me. She doesn’t. I walk to her table of (3 girls and a guy in the corner) and put my drink down. Stay standing mostly. Place both palms face down on table and say in deep stern voice “I’m afraid there has been a complaint”. Pause, look each of them in the eye. Mostly ignore the eye-fuck girl though. They assume its a noise complaint because they were singing just before I came to them. But I’m not dressed like an employee either.

One of them says “Sorrrrrrry”. I say “its not so much the noise really its the lack of talent”. They laugh a little amongst each other. BTW all of this is deadpan, always. Only smile or laugh when the impress you with something funny or genuinely smart. Reward kindness a little but sparingly. I criticise them all individually. Each of them was a different barn yard animal. I ask the others “do she always sound like pig or is she trying to fit in with the rest of you?” and they join in a bit. The ones who join in most get praise for siding with me.

So that sounds no different to a classic PUA opener right? BIG MISTAKE. There are several key bits that PUAs do different. A PUA will try and be COCKY-FUNNY and tease and be smiling and laughing with the group. But this is WEAK FRAME as laughing with the jokes shows that you are not seriously testing them. My frame (I didn't realise it at the time) was I was basically Simon Cowell or some strict talent show judge. And I was ripping into them. I even told them that I wasn't laughing. I created a Frame that they will remember and be able to talk about with their housemates over breakfast. They tried to diffuse the Frame by laughing it off, but I force them back in. And they'll never make it in showbiz unless they shape-up and get serious, I told them.

I then invite the group over to meet my 12 friends and they do. Then I isolate the eye-fuck girl to another corner of the bar and do lots of touchy and push-pull stuff. Eventually they come to a party and I sleep with eye-fuck girl. Its very easy as I have total social proof from her friends. The whole thing lasted maybe an hour. And she is hotter than anyone I could get on Tinder. And this was way more fun - its a skill and muscle you develop.

Conclusions and Notes

  • Tell blatant lies that you both know are not true, let the girl try and catch you out, but always defeat her. I think there is some Dark Triad element to this. Its also social savvy / creativity / intelligence fitness test.
  • Play some kind of character. Like a salesperson or a coach.
  • Always flip the script when she says something reasonable. Always be attacking back and pointing out how she is being ridiculous (she isnt).
  • literally attack women verbally (hot women, not low self-esteem women)
  • Once you have rapport try to categorise women. Figure out new ways of modelling their friendships and personalities.
  • Have a small arsenal of strong frames prepared, in case you have nothing original. “I fucked your mum”. “Im actually a chiropractor” is one i use a lot. I check their back by massaging spine and then tell them there are all sorts of problems, they don’t have long left to live. A good frame allows an excuse for touching. I talk about my career as a "sugar baby" and a "garbageman".
  • Another frame is “Wow you are all over me” after I was very forward, pulled her in, kissed her cheek and hugged her - then I push her away while saying it. This sets the frame that she was the forward one and not me. Then she can argue with me but I just will keep denying. If she gives up then YOU win the frame. You can always 'steal touches' with a good frame.
  • If you think some of this is too harsh or forward then just remember: she always has the option to walk (or run, if you are a real creep) away. Or to genuinely tell you off if you do cross a boundary (happened once to me) and then you can instantly turn genuine,look square in the eye, apologise, express what your intent was and how you got it wrong, then walk away.
  • A good frame makes her think 'you cant just do that!' or 'thats unfair!' or 'you are ridiculous!'.
  • Setting up these Fake Frames makes you ANTIFRAGILE. If you are a honest and boring then your woman wants to shittest you or start an argument then she will attack something that actually matters. By having bait set up she will attack your honeytraps. She will get to feel your masculine stoicness. And she will not turn into a bitch, because she was being reasonable - you were the asshole. And you will have a feminine female partner and a masculine asshole male partner.
  • Public places will become seriously fun.
  • YOU can be one of the 3% of people who actually approach strangers, and YOU can be one of the top 10% within that group who actually are exciting.

[–]Modredpillschool[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (1 child)

My only warning is that if you do the pig line in a group with a dude, you risk a white knight taking a swing scenario. YMMV

[–]ProfoundSavage 58 points59 points  (5 children)

I can definitely confirm this post, the whole thing. Especially the bit about "acting." Women love fantasy and more importantly when you can pull them into your fantasy. They love to be messed with, teased, etc. it's more about the sub-communications than anything else. Women are out to have fun, not necessarily to be interviewed and logic'd(I just made that word up)

Solid post!

...Oh and the mother thing, fun! Especially if the mother is there. I recommend slightly gaming the mom too. Mommy wants some grandkids eventually!

[–]theONE843663 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Mommy wants to be assfucked with her face down! Trust me this is from experience. She was 55 if you were wondering.

[–]kenpachitz points points [recovered]

This is me reading this:

Mommy wants to be assfucked with her face down!

Yeah yeah yeah. AWALT.

She was 55 if you were wondering.


[–]theONE843663 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I tried really hard for a mother & daughter session but it wasn't meant to be. Oh well... maybe one day.

[–]wiseprogressivethink 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The acting part, playing a role, definitely. But you need to have strong social skills and large balls to pull it off on a cold-call type situation like that. Not everyone possesses that. Like I said in another comment, this is sort of advanced level stuff.

Still, good post

[–]Mouthpiece 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not everyone possesses that.

Not everyone fucks HB 8 strangers on the first night.

Notice the correlation.

[–]blackedoutfast 54 points55 points  (1 child)

Thundercock Frame Control is such a dope band name

[–]Suffercure 7 points8 points  (0 children)

theredpill needs to start a band.

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (2 children)

Fucking priceless essay. I will def use There has been a complaint

At the end of the day, it isnt any particular thing OP does or says. Its the cocky Jerkboy attitude that surprisingly cannot be overdone. Oh, Ive worried I went toooo far with it......impossible! Women lap up male bravado like kittens eat cream

Mods...please endorse this shitlord. pretty pretty please.

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Oh, Ive worried I went toooo far with it......impossible!

Its so valuable to always remember that no matter how much you bullshit her you are providing value to her. You are giving her social status amongst her friends as she can go back to them and say how nasty (codeword for: forward and full of intent) that jerkboy asshole (codeword for: alpha) guy just was to her.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

All true bro but I have another theory why ultra cockiness works so good:

It triggers her submissive behavior. Womens purpose is to submit to a powerful man

[–]UberWagen 98 points99 points  (6 children)

Not sure if I'd recommend the mother thing.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo 58 points59 points  (1 child)

For any of these, you need to be emotionally intelligent and read the situation. I wouldn't do the mother thing, but I like the way this guy thinks.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAFPJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For any of these, you need to be emotionally intelligent

This is the real "how to be good with chicks" in a nutshell.

[–]420KUSHBUSH 20 points21 points  (1 child)

High risk high reward. I'd try it out once or twice and see how it goes.

[–]Peter_B_Long 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It sounds pretty fun to me. But note that he asked who she was with and she said her mother and grandma. It seemed like a great opportunity to me.

[–]sickofallofyou 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In the right situation, like on a cruise, i think it'd be fun.

[–]AlanAmpersand1 points points [recovered]

Great fucking post. Clearly shows how game is fun as hell and makes life just way more interesting.

[–]GetHimSomeMilk 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Fucking genius. I had to read fast because I'm getting ready to go out but this is perfect

"Finally an interesting person to talk to"

That's all it takes

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 31 points32 points  (6 children)

An excellent field report that has nothing to do with paternity fraud and AWALT (major beta hate bait), yet less than 100 votes. Losers have saturated the sub.

/u/redpillschool, this deserves a sticky next to your wonderful dating site.

[–]leftenant_t 14 points15 points  (4 children)

Once in a time this sub was about sexual strategy and getting laid. Nowdays it's all about bitching about feminism and beta hate disposal.

[–]Modredpillschool[M] 17 points18 points  (3 children)

We've always had both. That's why the flairs exist.

[–]larryjack 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Why don't compartmentalize the hate in a related sub instead of a flair?

All feminism, rape marriage, paternity fraud, western culture fall, etc. goes there.

Yes, unfortunately it would be another burden to moderate.

Sometime, all this negativity is too much and somehow annoying, and perhaps not that healthy for the mind on the long term.

Yes, these things exist, and men must be aware of them, but apart complaining and being aware, there's so much a post on a web forum can do.

[–]Modredpillschool[M] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

"Why don't compartmentalize the hate "

Sounds to me like you're concern trolling.

All of these things are relevant interests in a man's life and sexual strategy. If they make you uncomfortable, don't read them.

[–]larryjack 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You guard is high because of a lot of trolling here I guess.

My fault of using that term and not explaining correctly.

Not at all. Just a suggestion.

Absolutely, already avoid what I don't need to be repeatedly exposed to.

Take my comment for what it is, just my opinion.

[–]DarkRenaissance 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This post is good, I have only one thing to add: even hot girls have self-esteem issues. In that case, still tease her and attack her verbally. No matter how low her esteem, she will still have hundreds of betas liking her photos and hitting on her all the time. Its necessary, I've seen results from it myself. Her hypergamy will still reward you. The hotter the woman, the more verbal/mental beatdowns are needed.

[–]RP15 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is absolutely genius. You're basically saying that you're creating opportunities for her to shit test so you can beat them and get her wet. You have weaponised their own bullshit against them you sly sly dog

[–]Peter_B_Long 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I had like a double shot of jealousy and a hit of 'he's bullshitting' when i read that the blonde went up to you and kissed your neck and you closed with her, but i finished reading and all of a sudden like a rewiring in my brain, i felt extrovertly more playful and flirtaciously silly. I've saved this post for the next time i go out, and if it had a little bit more red pill quality, i would vote for it to be in the sidebar. Loved this.

[–]sj2k 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Man, this was a great post and really captures the mindset you need before a night out to have fun and attract women. I'm going to re-read this before I go out tonight. Well done

[–]Mckallidon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Only from Thundercock Systems Inc. Are you ready to fuck the world?

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A well-written post.

Women are toys. They are here for your amusement and pleasure. Adopt this mindset and you will never go awry in your carnal pursuits.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Interesting as FR but falls into the same trap as most reports masquerading as theory: the frame cometh before the the lay.

Number one problem with this RP-style advice is the large constituency that treats FR, advice, and tactics as magic spells. "Recite these words, my friends, and your formative (and probably many more) years of barely carrying a conversation with strangers will work on strange women and get you laid." I know this was not your intention, but you must remember what you report and what your audience craves in your writing are immensely different.

Direct criticism aside this is a good post in the sense that it was fun to read and told a good story from a solid narrator. But at the end of the day, it is a donut. It was nice, didn't last too long, and will be palatable to the masses. The problem is that people who spend too much time reading and internalizing shit like this (eating donuts) are fat and useless.

Hope to see a refinement of the style. It will benefit you and your audience. That said, good post.

[–]empress_cixi 10 points11 points  (1 child)

(Dont judge me for posting on a Friday night; I fucked up my leg)

So you're a fiction writer imagining these PUA scenarios on a Friday night while playing online video games. OK. :D

[–]lurkerCPA 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Walk up to a group of girls at a table and say "Hi ladies, I'm bored entertain me"

You will get shit tested instantly

[–]no_face 11 points12 points  (7 children)

6'0 tall, white, decent face, nice hair, wear a leather jacket and smart trousers

You could probably just say Hi and it would work, esp if alcohol was involved.

I don't think your "recommendations" would be effective for the 5'8" programmer living in mom's basement majority we have here.

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Many of my friends have those some stats (or better) and get no action. And they have social skills. But they dont shit-test women at all, they dont make them jump through hoops and they talk to the girls like any other guy. The only emotion they attempt to make a woman feel is a small amount of happiness (rather than anger, confusion, anxiety, arousal, euphoria etc).

And walking up to an 8 or a 9 with my face and body could get me lucky rarely on nights out when all the bitch-shields are up. (During Day Game its different; sure, I can just use a situational opener).

But if you have OK face/body/fashion and want to smash those bitch-shields and hookup with girls within an hour or so at clubs and pubs and bars then my advice works.

5'8" programmer living in mom's basement

The ONLY problem there is the height. I work in software myself. I never tell girls this - see my main post again. And in none of the above did I take the girl back to my place - they were at parties (friends house), holiday rooms and her place.

W.r.t. your height: if you can get just 2 more inches you will be average. Fixing your posture can gain you an inch: do deadlifts and squats and also look into posture videos on youtube. Hold your chin higher too. Look into shoes that can add height like what Robert Downey Jnr wears. Thats an extra inch. You will have to make up the rest in Frame and Status. Get status by building a network or doing some DJing or something.

[–]codingbuffnerd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very informative OP and this is too well written advice. thumbs up

[–]theONE843663 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Comment matches username! 6'3" Brown brogrammer checking in life is on easy mode rn.

[–]saladon points points [recovered]

We need you to take care of all the "I'm indian and what do" posts here.

[–]theONE843663 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I'm not Indian but Nepali. For some reason Indians are always depressed i dunno why.

[–]DeLaNoochie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that's like where 99% of his success comes from, I bet. Let some manlet with a sub par face try that and he'll get dirty looks or worse.

[–]All-DayErrDay -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hope you enjoy becoming a DJ per his advice. Also he basically admits you're screwed if you're under 5'8. The fact that people gloss over height like him is such bs.

[–]OnlyCuriosity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

as others have said, great post. very inspiring and funny at times

[–]wiseprogressivethink 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like good advice, but sort of advanced level. Not sure I buy all of OP's stories...

[–]Willow-girl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd love it if some guy would use that "I fucked your mother" line on me. It would be so funny to reply, "So, you're a necrophiliac?"

[–]Subtletorious 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So we overcame a LOT of logistics including having to have sex in a hot tub

This is why I don't use communal bodies of water like pools and hot tubs. Communal bath water is insane especially when you then put your face in that stuff..... for fun!

[–]rich-mahogany_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Shoulder jiggle + head flick. That's about the gayest combination of actions you could do

[–]failingtheturingtest 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Especially when it results in touching girls. YUCK!

[–]BrutalBuccaneer points points [recovered]

Hey OP what advice can you give for social circle game in uni? This is what I already do

Go 5 mins early and sit besides a person and chat him up then add him on FB, if he has no lecture after this one could tinue Convo outside

Joined gym recently but I'll get to know the regulars since I too am regular at it

Joined rockclimbing club so I can develop a good hobby and meet fit motivated people.

What else can I do?Also how do I get to know more girls? Is cold approaching a valid strategy considering I have to think about my reputation at uni (btw we don't have frats here in Australia)

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I was an officer of the student union. Also I did an Entertainment role which meant that I DJed every week. DJing is extremely easy and gives you huge status for no reason. You basically frame control the whole room and women recognise that.

I had a big lunch hall and always talked to different people over lunch. All the quiet scientists, all the sports people, all the different people from different subjects.

I tried to be a Ferris Bueller. I read How To Win Friends and Influence People and just worked hard to make everyone else talk about what they were up to. And I tried to create value for people by connecting people and making introductions.

I was partly able to do all of this because of the way our uni was structured. But just by being one of the 20% trying to be social and creating value for people you can get 80% of the attention people allocate.

I made a subreddit called Mansformation back when I was figuring all this stuff out. Check out the posts there.

with respect to what you wrote:

Go 5 mins early and sit besides a person and chat him up then add him on FB, if he has no lecture after this one could tinue Convo outside

What you talk about is important. You should be thinking about how to provide value to them. Maybe you know more about your subject. Maybe you know more about fitness. Or you are better at pulling girls. Think of how you can provide value to him. Maybe you know a few other people with similar interests, and you can get them all to join up and go on a night out together? Or a road trip or something.

Just be being one of the 10% of people who organise and do stuff you can be put into leadership roles. Just tell cool people "A few of us are going rockclimbing on Saturday. 3 guys 2 guys. Want to join?"

My uni had so many random activities going on all the time that it used to be very easy to drop in and chat to people. Idk what yours is like.

Also how do I get to know more girls?

Its hard to answer this. You have to play your strengths. I got "popular" and made a lot of good friends about a year before I started pulling girls.

How tall are you and what is your body like atm? What clothes do you wear typically (most students dress terribly)? Is your face average or below/above average?

Is cold approaching a valid strategy considering I have to think about my reputation at uni (btw we don't have frats here in Australia)

At uni its super easy to cold approach other students. Everyone wants to make new friends especially the first years. I am from UK and we dont have frats here either. During my Masters I had a house with 3 other party animals and we threw some of the biggest parties in the whole uni. Parties are great for pulling women, huge status gains. And you can invite people you think are cool but dont know well. And tell them to bring one of two of their friends. But always get them to bring girls to keep your ratio up

And last of all: eye contact, open body language, talk calm and not too fast, use as few words as possible to communicate the same message, eye contact, eye contact

[–]BrutalBuccaneer points points [recovered]

Wow great answer thanks but I got more questions. Wrote each line in reply to your lines

I will try to do the same in our student Union or make it in the big engineering club that we have.

Even we have big lunch halls but idk how to talk to the people when they're on their phones. I try to talk to everyone when I get a chance though

I'll try to get people to talk about themselves. I like talking to people and discovering them and seeing if they're quality and make friends.

Even our uni forces us to be really social so I dont think I have a problem there.

Will certainly check out mansformations.

I'll try give value when I talk next time. I do know a lot about the subjects but I don't wanna give off a nerd vibe(I'm Indian) and I can't just start talking about weightlifting routines now can i. I know it looks like I'm making excuses but I really wanna know how to get into the flow of it.

Night out

I dont know about that since I'm new to the city and I don't drink so this is a problem for me. Also where do you go when you say night out? Just bars and clubs?

Lot of random activity at my uni too but how do you chat with the people randomly?

I'm average height 5'10 and body is also average (working on this, rejoined gym). Typically I wear a t-shirt and jeans with trainers(gonna buy good shoes soon- have my eyes on brown chukkas). Face is average but maybe being Indian puts people off idk

Where do you cold approach guys or girls and what do you say?

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

big engineering club

Dont think you will meet women or 'cool kids' there. But go along to a meeting and see for yourself.

Even we have big lunch halls but idk how to talk to the people when they're on their phones. I try to talk to everyone when I get a chance though

Im glad I started uni when smartphones were not quite yet popular. But this shouldnt really stop you. When you put your tray near someone just say "alright mate" and head nod. Then have some question or observation about something funny nearby. See if they bite. You just have to not care about rejection at all. Its hardly a rejection if they dont continue the conversation anyway. Most of the time they will be glad to have someone to talk to, unless they are very introverted.

I'll try to get people to talk about themselves. I like talking to people and discovering them and seeing if they're quality and make friends.

Have a motive for asking them about themselves. Like if you are asking about their gym routine its because you've been reading up XYZ routine.

I'll try give value when I talk next time. I do know a lot about the subjects but I don't wanna give off a nerd vibe(I'm Indian) and I can't just start talking about weightlifting routines now can i. I know it looks like I'm making excuses but I really wanna know how to get into the flow of it.

It takes practice. You gain momentum. Its a muscle you build. Talk to them about news or your subject or something.

I dont know about that since I'm new to the city and I don't drink so this is a problem for me. Also where do you go when you say night out? Just bars and clubs?


I'm average height 5'10 and body is also average (working on this, rejoined gym). Typically I wear a t-shirt and jeans with trainers(gonna buy good shoes soon- have my eyes on brown chukkas).

Perfectly fine stats. Those clothes are bad/average though. Everyone else is wearing them. trainers and jeans are bad.

Try to find a way to dress like this without spending too much money. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/50/4d/92/504d929f26651a55789ae2543ac15c27.jpg

maybe being Indian puts people off idk

real-talk I've heard it can be a slight turn off for girls, but its nothing drastic. And I think it gets less and less each year. And I think a fashionable indian might be more attractive than a poorly dressed white guy of similar face/build. Reading up on fashion (not too much) could have a high ROI for you

[–]heartbroken_nerd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All these field reports from OP look like something RSDJeffy would pull off. You have described a lot of his game. :D

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (3 children)

At first I wasn't sure what to make of this post's reality, I couldn't picture this 'murican guy ... and then I read OP's British and it all made sense! lol, top patter!

Personally I find the 'cocky funny' gig taxing, like I'm performing a show I don't really want to, but that's just me, here the OP's a natural and good at it as he's been working on his Game for many years. Good on him, he deserves the results he gets.

[–]Vitamin_Red 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Same, I feel like a fucking clown putting on a perfomance. What's your game instead?

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just be dynamic ... you know the rules ,, Game ideas abound here, just do some searches for Field Reports

I have a large serve of DGAF and tend to just be myself ... which is a tad crazy, make em smile/laugh

Sorry I can't give you a more complete answer ,, it varies depending on where I am and who I'm hitting on ... horses for courses and all that!

[–]Benj1105 points points [recovered]

Do you have a link to "37 warlord tips for frame control"?

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hint: It's the highest voted post in TRP history.

[–]1randomperson123321 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Ehm... why isn't the OP pointed yet?

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah, /u/redpillschool, OP talked about inventing scenarios (lying) to induce a shit test/frame test as early as possible to show off and generate tingles. It's not about the truth, she only cares that you pass those tests. Definitely insightful and point worthy.

[–]Modredpillschool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All set

[–]Gainznsuch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Posts like these are why I follow TRP

[–]RedsideoftheMoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yo Deadpan Dan, what advice do you have for those of us with a Jimmy Fallon complex? Giggling uncontrollably/breaking character constantly.

[–]ecosci -1 points0 points  (0 children)

All this posting for female validation it wont work against female nature just have options and be confident who cares what women want and think be a selfish bastard they love it.