Blue Pill ExampleNew to TRP? Read this before consuming any information. If you are here to seek help on how to win over one woman, instead of improving yourself to win over many women, you have the wrong mindset and will not be able to properly consume the information you will learn here. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by RedditAdminsSuck_88

TLDR: Before consuming any material here on The Red Pill you need to understand that the principles here are NOT ABOUT HELPING YOU WITH ONE GIRL but instead helping you improve yourself so you can cast a wide net with many women.

It seems like every post on AskTRP these days consists of this:

Hey AskTRP, wow I stumbled onto TRP 12 hours ago and have read up on the stuff and wow its mindblowing, I feel like a changed man already. ANYWAY, there is this girl who I have been trying to get with, before I came here I was beta with her, but now after learning about TRP if I just do this, that, and this and that I will be able to win her over right?

It makes me cringe every time.

You are completely missing the point of TRP.

If you are using TRP to help you with ONE GIRL, instead of help YOURSELF, you are doing it wrong.

Approaching TRP with the wrong mindset will give you a warped understanding of it all because you are looking at everything with a lens of tunnel vision and confirmation bias. Everything you read about, every video you watch, every blog you go to, you will consume the information with the mindset of "How can I use this to help me with that one girl". WRONG APPROACH.

Too many of you come here with that mindset. You are pedestalizing one piece of pussy and are trying to find some kind of cheat code, shortcut, quick fix to help you with ONE GIRL. That is your focus, and your mission. So what if you do end up having success with that ONE GIRL? Then what? Will you revert to your old ways? Stop coming here? Stop reading? Stop learning? TRP is not about helping you with ONE girl. It's about improving yourself so you can cast your net wide with MANY girls. If you can not understand that fact you will not be able to truly comprehend what you learn here. You will have a warped, perverted understanding of it all.

I will use a video game analogy. TRP isn't a powerup to help you in an already existing game. TRP is starting a new game, a new save file. Once you swallow the red pill you pretty much hit the reset button in all areas of your life. That includes any kind of relationship you have with women.

New to TRP? Forget about any women you have tried to game in the past. You have already poisoned that well with your beta behavior, and those women will never respect you. Use the material you learn here to cultivate relationships with NEW women, to where you can use what you learned here on TRP from the get go. Relationships with women are like a cup of clean water. Once you contaminate the cup of water with shit(beta behavior), there is no way to make it pure again, no matter how many filters you run it through, you have to pour the whole thing out and fill it up with new clean water.

Conclusion: New here? Good. Consume all the material you read here with the mindset of "How can I use this to improve myself and have success with many women?" not "How can I use this to help my failing LTR or failing attempt to get with this one girl?"

[–]Rudeyyyy 137 points138 points  (26 children)

Just wanna add something for all the people that are new here



[–]RedditAdminsSuck_88[S] 31 points32 points  (6 children)

The underlying problem with telling newbies to read the sidebar is that they are going to read the sidebar with the mindset of "How can I use this sidebar material with my oneitis" not "How can I use this sidebar material to help me become a better man"

[–]Rudeyyyy 13 points14 points  (0 children)

haha not gonna lie when I first joined red pill that was my exact thought. How can I use this to win over ____. Now that i've been here a while and have been lurking I go by the second sentence. I revamped myself so to speak. But yes You are right in every way when it comes to that statement.

[–]Modredpillschool 1 point2 points  (1 child)

"How can I use this sidebar material with my oneitis"

Everybody starts somewhere. By the time they finish the sidebar, they should know why getting "the one" isn't the path.

[–]RedditAdminsSuck_88[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree but at the same time I think some people are not quite getting it.

Pretty much every post I make here on the main sub is a general response to a disturbing trend i see where I spend most of my time which is AskTRP. The recent trend has been a bunch of the same kinds of posts of new users who read some of the sidebar then ask how to apply it to their oneitis. Hence why I believe they are reading it with tunnel vision instead of an open mind.

[–]iliterallydgaf22 points points [recovered]

Nope. I'm actually reading the sidebar to help me completely avoid d bags over the next decade while your kind completely dwindles out ... you "better men" with your wide nets. What a crock of shite

You set the entire human race about 50 years back.

Total d bag bs. When you've got loose skin and old balls you won't have a friend left in the world with your "mindset".

It will be a long gone, stale blip in the evolution of man ... hopefully, you'll be an invalid stuck alone in a room filled with cats and no one to change the Sex and the City marathons off late at night.

Or you could just be alone. For years and years like a Russian space station astronaut. You should start now before anymore of your garbage pollutes the world.

Ya douche

[–]tropzumuch 20 points21 points  (5 children)

Yea I'm new on Reddit, am only on mobile. Is the sidebar the 'sub Reddit info'? Thanks

[–]oidiotadoano 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Yes, It's the "Community Info"

[–]Radithor 12 points13 points  (1 child)

It's your bible for the next few months when coming to this subject..

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Most of us are only on mobile so don't worry the display of the text, if you're reading these you can scroll it or spin it or hit the side of your mobile device like a typewriter... who isn't "mobile" these days, or better yet, who will still be explaining how to read a a dinosaur's sidebar in 5 years ???

Historians won't touch this crap. Forget it completely and go find something really stimulating and rewarding to do with your brain. Like watch porn or create a new way for others to watch porn.

Not mobile. Or Android. Or iPhone. That's right kids... a new "mindset".

[–]Judirek points points [recovered]

To us whose:

  • First language is not English or not Americans

  • Who can't keep up immediately with the jargon, reading a sentence in a the Rational Male thrice

  • Who's only starting out to have reading be a part of our lives

I think most people start to lose interest on The Misandry Bubble part since it isn't like the Reformed Incel and Michael's Story where it's about one guy's experience you can picture out and relate immediately. The mindset where action is not viewed as a chore is hard to cultivate.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The mindset where action is not viewed as a chore is hard to cultivate.

I've been seeing tremendous success in real life by recommending "The Book Of Pook". Granted, its only three cases, but its still a 100% success rate so far (not counting myself). Start there for those who really just want to know what we mean by a red pill mindset to game.

[–]-INFOWARS- 2 points3 points  (6 children)

I'm new here (like just found out TRP yesterday) but I have read a lot of the sidebar, it's pretty good. I think sticking Sun Tzu's book would be useful too. There's a lot of parallels between the 48 laws and Sun Tzu's The Art of War.

[–]Rudeyyyy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No More Mr Nice Guy is good as well as The Manipulated Man

[–]IIlllIllIIIllIl 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The sidebar has plenty more than enough reading to be sufficient in its current state.

[–]-INFOWARS- 2 points3 points  (2 children)

No, you can never read enough.

[–]IIlllIllIIIllIl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right, and the sidebar serves as the sufficient jumping off point for TRP.

[–]ispeaknot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

a man never stops learning, or reading

[–]reecewagner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True statement, although I'll say as someone who's still relatively new, the sidebar is a fucking Encylopedia set. You can't just sit down and read it, unless there is something more concise that I'm missing.

[–]russbussdp points points [recovered]

Also read 50 shades of red. Lots of super good stuff in there.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 18 points19 points  (2 children)

[–]Endorsed ContributorMentORPHEUS 5 points6 points  (1 child)

There's a reason that's one of the FIRST articles in the AskTRP sidebar!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most people don't read the side bar or at least half don't

20% of people here are trolling if not more

Another 10% think they know better then everyone else and are here to point at their unicorn. And how special she is. And think they don't have to follow TRP rules.

Another 50% are brand new and don't even know where to start self improving, most of this 50% will get a gym membership and go a few times and slip back into the blue pill, and post how alpha they are and how much puss they get or do posts about how awesome they are, or just give up.

That leaves us with 20% of the readers and contributors. Of these 1% are mods and 4% are senior contributors with another 5% self actualized full red pill men, with around 10% plus the left overs of that 50% on the road to becoming better men.

So at most TRP helps around 20% of its users. And 5% of them are essentially mods. Correlate this to special forces training around 80% of people wash out.


Only 20% of the user base on TRP wants to learn and has the wear with all to follow through.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (2 children)

I guess I'm lucky....I came to TRP because of one girl, but not to get her back. In short, I married back in '95, divorced in '04, married again in '06, divorced in '11.....huge drama each time. During the end game with wife 2, I met a unicorn in college (riding out the Great Recession). Wicked smart, great family, really good looking, took her virginity, had a great 4.5 year run, remain close friends.

So.....I'm like WTF just happened? How did I go from a crazy bitch to a smokeshow half my age? And how do I get more of them? I'll be very clear: my unicorn said my DGAF attitude and awareness of "she's not yours, it's just your turn" were key (not in those words, of course). Reading the sidebar in light of my experiences was eye opening, to say the least.

Once you contaminate the cup of water with shit(beta behavior), there is no way to make it pure again, no matter how many filters you run it through, you have to pour the whole thing out and fill it up with new clean water.

I couldn't agree more. There were points with my unicorn that I got pretty beta, and I watched the attraction wither away. Part of the reason I don't really want her back is because of this.

Absent TRP & the manosphere in general, I probably would have shacked up again by now. Instead, I work my 40 in 6 days, to give time to take care of myself. Hardcore self improvement in various facets of my life. I'm not slaying yet but I think I needed this year of monk mode to develop my own identity and habits.....I've been in LTR's most of my life. The freedom I now enjoy is wonderful and jealously guarded.

Lift like your life depends on it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

There were points with my unicorn that I got pretty beta, and I watched the attraction wither away. Part of the reason I don't really want her back is because of this.

You can look back and see it with 20/20 vision, literally every conflict was prolonged and escalated by losing frame and failing the subsequent onslaught of shit tests. I was in lots of LTRs myself, but after the first few I was half blue pill, half never intending on ending up with the women I was long term dating (but still was full beta). I was just going through the motions because I thought that's just what you're supposed to do and that's how you get laid consistently. I could've so easily been one of those guys who got married out of obligation/culture/nothing else better to do, knowing it's a bad idea, and of course have it all go to shit. TRP is the light!

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Guys suffering from "that one" should read Mark Manson's "Models", honestly.

As he wrote, there will be women who like you (laugh from your lousy jokes all the time, want to be alone with you, give you their number w/o hesitation) - there will be women who are neutral (you use "game mad skillz" to make them positive) - and there will be women who don't like you.

And as Manson writes, over few years when he was preparing material for the book (by dumping his genetic material everywhere, lol), he could not actually find enough good examples of turning a "negative" woman to "positive".

This is just NOT WORTH IT, because it is NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE. Get off your fucking ego trains, guys. You don't matter, you aren't special and she has all the right to ignore you. Or openly dislike you.

Just don't. Go anywhere else. And I mean, anywhere. [insert obligatory Jordan YT meme here... the one with "Staph. Get some help"]

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Another issue is that it can be surprisingly difficult to turn "positives" to "negatives" unless you fuck up pretty badly. Yeah, there are flaky bitches, but if one really likes you, you can fuck up a surprising amount and still pull her....in my experience, anyway. Agreed entirely on your point, if they aren't into you, attraction is not negotiable and they aren't worth any effort at all.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 4 points5 points  (1 child)

they aren't worth any effort at all

I'd go even further. I would not discuss that in terms of "worth" or "not worth". This is just... something incompatible with life. You see, you can make me buy your car, you can make me pay for it, you can make me think about it and consider buying it, and you can make me buy it... but you can't make me really like it.

This is just the way the things are.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent example. I drive a Honda CR-Z hybrid. Sporty two seater hatchback. I love it and it meets my needs fine. But so few people liked it that it was discontinued (works for me, got a pretty good deal).

[–]TRP_MushaShugyo 11 points12 points  (0 children)

**Don't improve yourself to win over women at all. Improve yourself to be the best version of yourself possible. Women will come naturally.

[–]trp_ocd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sticky/sidebar please. Too many noobz eating shit, and making the water murky.

[–]RubyOrchid13 3 points4 points  (3 children)

So much this. Huge influx of people coming over here and wanting the magic bullet to fix their already failed relationship/oneitis. They want to use the red pill, for things it wasn't intended to fix. It is to fix yourself, not your relationship. So many posts about, my SO talked to Chad, what do? Nothing, she's already fucked him, and six other Chad's in that time period. The biggest mistake I see, is people coming and not lifting. They want the easy stuff out of the red pill, but aren't willing to do the hard work, that actually makes it successful.

Basically, people are trying to take away the shit that doesn't take any work and not realizing it won't work unless you really put in effort. Personally, I think we should stop calling all of them beta, and bring back calling them what they are, AFCs. Or, average frustrated chumps. They aren't even beta, because they lack the understanding of what a beta even is. They are average frustrated chumps, who don't even deserve the title of beta. At least a beta male knows his worth, value, and place.

[–]BigmuscleChad points points [recovered]

so muscle is very valuable youd say? what do you think of pro bbers, jay cutler and etc. would you say they are very alpha? also what is it about the muscle and lifting that makes it so valuable in your opinion? I do think its great as well just curious if its for the same reasons others on trp suggest it so often

[–]RubyOrchid13 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I don't know if they are. You have to stop externalizing, and internalize. You should lift to be healthy, and to be the best version of yourself. Instead of worrying about what Jay Cutler is doing, looking, or behaving like. Focus on yourself. Set your own goals.

[–]Marduhhh_y 2 points3 points  (0 children)

THIS! Ive been reading TRP for years and yes i had that oneitis !I told myself ... im doing this for me .Only me. My oneitis broke me but made me reset everything .Eventually I turned her away manipulating me and thinking ill do the same years later. i Fucked newer girls and learned lessons the hard way. My mission is still my mission . Took years to realize that. reading the sidebar in less than a day wont make you great all of a sudden. Fucking your oneitis wont make you any better or any worse . Eventually you grow out of it and realize life is different than JUST her . Great post! P.s. it took 3 years for my oneitis to fuck me and for her to realize I was better. I almost fell in the cracks but shes not my mission . I am !

[–]BurnYourFlag 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have been here a while but decided to read this, because only a fool believes he is wise.

[–]Mckallidon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please Sticky This. So many helpless lost souls flooding in here lately. They don't realize that if the blue pill is still permanently installed in their ass, the red pill cannot help you no matter how hard you want it to. They are mutually exclusive in nature, although contending in one arena.

These are axioms and precepts to embody for personal transformation. This isn't a sociology course to find a new plateau to humblebrag about. You have to swallow the pill and let it reveal self evident truth. The blue pill is predicated on blind faith and complacency. TRP is rooted in believing nothing besides faith in your experiences and to improve because of them towards the strongest version of yourself. If you're male, that happens to mean being physically and mentally strong which reaps many benefits reserved for the best men in society, which includes money and pussy among many others.

People look to the prize but ignore the race.

[–]TheTruthSetsUsFree points points [recovered]

A natural once told me, "they either are into you or they aren't"

You can never win over a girl whose not into you. No matter what you do.

[–]3whatsthisgarg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A natural once told me, "they either are into you or they aren't"

Make a post with this as the message. It's something that needs to be said repeatedly.

You're going to have to flesh it out with some example or something, but try to come up with it. For example, this is better advice to the clown who sat and took what he called "brutal" shit tests from some chick at his college cafeteria. He should have cut that shit off at the start rather than give her all that fucking validation.

[–]Jakei34 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Big reason why i rarely get on asktrp anymore

[–]newName543456 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Having deja vu right now. Same issue has been prevalent on TAF almost a decade ago. Times change, issues not so much apparently.

[–]cruzbmx 0 points1 point  (3 children)

How do you suggest I meet more women as a highschooler? The socially confined environment has forced prudence with every conversation because my options feel limited. Though I go my own way a little more each day, I feel like I've hit a wall because I'm not getting any really solid practice at my game in a school environment. And, because I can't shake the BP paradigm I must walk around enforcing (to a greater or lesser extent), I'm subsequently not able to get any practice out of school either.

The true goal here is for me to stop putting these girls on pedestals and to enforce an abundance mentality while dealing with the same women on a regular basis.

[–]Hotdawg179 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How many girls are in your class? Year above/below count too? That's an insane amount of girls. Consider yourself lucky to have so many you see on a regular basis.

[–]cruzbmx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i guess i never considered its better than nothing :|

ill try to look at it this way more often, thanks

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The pussy on the pedestal thing though seriously do half of you know TC's movie character who uses this in his motivational speeches ?

Or is this in some ways one of those which came first ? The chicken or the egg thought processes that started decades ago ?

For all I know it's biblical, or it could be that his character is based off a founding father of this bs thought breeding.

Please do tell.

[–]redrummilf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are you improving yourself for the sake of women instead of yourself?

Someone still has a few bits of blue pill in the system.

[–]greatslyfer 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I just wanna fuck man.

I do approach a few times but when I do it just mumbles on for a few sentences here and there and then bleh.

I get demotivated when a new opportunity presents itself because I just keep thinking to myself "I'm not able to get past the opening point, it just fucking fizzles out"

I know I have to just closely look at what happened before in previous interactions and just move mentally that mindset of always improving myself and seeing what I can do better.
But for now it would be nice if I can progress.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

We all just wanna fuck, man.

[–]abbafishhead 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is why I always tell my friends who ask me for dating advice: "I can't help you get the girl. I can only help you get a girl."

[–]Aoedin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to scoff at "read the side bar" until I read it. ALL of it. It is REQUIRED reading to fully understand redpill.

[–]hypnotoad114 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Many of us found this place because of our unhealthy drive to get (the one). I think it's part of the process for us.

I used the information here to get (the one) and it blew up in my face luckily no life long lasting consequences.

But guess what it worked on the next one, and the next one, and her friends.

It was a crucial lesson to learn. They will either get (the one) and sooner than later lose her. Or fail and not. But either outcome they will have to face reality. There is no (one). And then they will either reject this place and blame everyone or understand that they failed see their mistakes and learn.

I think we should tell them to go get the (one) the experience will teach a important lesson in these young men's life's. Just make sure they wrap it up.

[–]SouloftheVoid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's kind of a tragic irony that for most men to fuck their oneitis they have to change themselves into someone who doesn't have a oneitis.

[–]charlie_boomdick -1 points0 points  (3 children)

I totally agree, but I will say as a counterpoint - applying red pill tactics and mindsets on that one girl can be extremely enlightening and a great learning experience (because usually it works).

A lot of what I know comes from doing just that.

[–]Peter_B_Long 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes but it's not worth it. You'll get hit with a TON of shit tests and probably still get nothing out of it.

Applying red pill tactics to girls who you are 'stuck' with (sisters, cousins, co-workers, etc.) should be the only time you should bother trying to filter out the dirty cup of water.

[–]bolupua 0 points1 point  (1 child)

(because usually it works).

In my case, it didn't worked.

Granted, the girl was completely in love (her own oneitis) with her boss, and I was trying to get her. Very, very difficult situation. At the end, they got together (her boss was married).

Nevertheless, I managed to bring her back to my room and kiss her but nothing more. That probably was because of TRP.

However she end up hating me because I'm a "player" and I didnt' want to become a beta orbiter or get into the friend zone.

So now we are nothing. In hindsight, I would have liked to still be friends. She was an interesting girl.

[–]aanarchist -3 points-2 points  (6 children)

even more importantly stop putting women on a pedestal and treat them like human beings, and focus on doing what makes you happy rather than chasing vagina like some beta faggot.

[–]Mckallidon 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Goddam man. You've lurked here for so long and are still funny lol.

[–]aanarchist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

a funny bone keeps the panties moist

[–]Mckallidon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Autism keeps those lips locked son.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shit. Thank you. Now I can get some sleep. My paranoia is that people are so worried about ONLY getting off or ONLY getting SOMETHING from another person that eventually the "cast a wide net" mentality will apply to every human interaction and exchange ...

Maybe you... you are the one for me?

Just fucking with ya. I'm a trannie so this shit gets confusing for me.

Either way, fuck this sidebar. I'm out