"What do you have to offer aside from what's between your legs?" (self.TheRedPill)

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[–][deleted] 119 points120 points  (4 children)

There's a Patrice O'Neal bit where he asks the women in the audience what they would do if they had a car wreck and their vagina was like just no longer there for the rest of their lives. How would they keep their man?

The women obviously yell out blowjobs and anal.

Then he points out how they just broke themselves down as a series of holes.

[–]This1989 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This. Hilarious bit! He also had a great perspective on women too. Check out the Black Phillip Show

[–]Canarlottle 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Mind you if you share that one bit? I find it hilarious.

[–]Mackland 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Here's the clip that /u/PIeight was talking about:


[–]tylertgbh 150 points151 points  (85 children)

Want to tell us what they actually said they think they offer men? I'm curious to know they're answers.

[–]Oz70NYC 117 points118 points  (82 children)

The short, generalized version: "Affection, a good heart, honesty, loyalty, a sense of humor". The atypical stuff you'd find splattered all over a dating profile.

[–]nocioniisgod 382 points383 points  (36 children)

Those were part of your answers as well though...

[–]RojoEscarlata 31 points32 points  (6 children)

True, but financial stability would be top priority for most people in the current times.

And in certain way it hasn't changed ever really, the man who has the most meat, salt, copper, gold, etc.. is the one with more "value" and has a better and bigger pool of women to choose from.

All that emotional stability crap "love", and feelings are just psychological abstractions of evolutionary desires. Which ironically I've seen been brought up more, in this sub who is based on evolutionary psychology.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (5 children)

Someone plays Age of Empires, haha.

[–]Wolveryn points points [recovered]

Quick upgrade to Imperial age!

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

She only dates Cataphracts.

[–]Lazysaurus 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Now THAT'S verbal BJJ. Brutal choke out, bro. We have a winner.

[–]CallMeHaseo 71 points72 points  (0 children)

But they lied though awalt 😆

[–]Need2LickMuff 10 points11 points  (2 children)

OP's point is he prob doesn't give a shit if they're funny (or even finds them funny), doesn't care about her 'good heart' because AWALT and myopia, prob doesn't find their 'affection' valuable or even affectionate the way he wants, honesty and loyalty LOL.

Basically she assumed that she is fulfilling her role, she assumed that she's giving him all that he wants, but isn't actually hitting the mark at all. For example: A woman could grow a garden and produce fresh vegetables all day and night, but if the guy always comes home with veg on his way back from work.. what really is she doing that benefits him?

[–]razormachine 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Basically she assumed that she is fulfilling her role, she assumed that she's giving him all that he wants, but isn't actually hitting the mark at all

I really gave a thought about what you said. They really do assume what I need and present themselves as provider of those things, and... I'm pretty self-sufficient, they are not leaving the mark at all.

The only words that would leave the mark would be "sane" and "drama-free".

[–]Newreddawn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Men and women shouldn't be looking for the exact same traits, although some are mutually essential. My LTR offers me honesty, loyalty, affection, personal assistance (cleaning, errands, cooking, etc) and social status (hot and young).

I think that's perfect. There are some similarities to what I offer her, but the majority of the differences are masculine/feminine predispositions.

[–]SmilingWatermelon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

His answers were not ment to be genuine. He only wanted to see how they would respond.

[–]Z33ger 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You can say the same shit to a woman that she just said to you and it will hit her harder because of her hormonal shit. That's why they are so easily mesmerized by what men do even when it's a commonplace thing like bragging about dick size

[–]derek0660 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Three of four actually, if you count the sex part

[–]wanderer779 26 points27 points  (5 children)

The key is whether they are lying. The main thing a lot of women are missing is a pleasant disposition.

[–]Oz70NYC 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Especially women in the Northeast...specifically the Tri-State area. About the only one of the women I'm fucking right now who didn't initially give me a borderline hostile reaction when I first approached them is the Korean teacher...and that's only because she was my oldest nephew's 3rd grade teacher when I 1st met her. All the other gave me the atypical New York/New Jersey girl snarkiness upon approach. And obviously I had to whittle down the defenses to get to the point I'm at with each.

[–]RedPillRobin 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Bro I'm in PA right across the bridge from Jersey I literally will not have a plate that lives in NY or Jersey. Everyone of them has a shitty ass attitude. My last plate from there got pissed because I wouldn't LTR her ass goes on Facebook hunts down my exwife and makes up a bunch of lies causing me more custody issues than I already have. And I could go on and on.

[–]Oz70NYC 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yup, sounds about accurate.

[–]Run_Che 10 points11 points  (12 children)

Just wondering, what do you think would be a good answer on their part?

[–]greyhunter4 45 points46 points  (4 children)

Cook, clean, supportive, or her own financial stability. If they can't be a house wife they need to bring home their own bacon.

[–]Run_Che 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yes, not being a financial burden is a pretty big plus. Being suportive is expected from LTR, so that really should't be said as a 'bonus'.

[–]czatara 1 point2 points  (2 children)

For LTRs, add low count. You can't turn a hoe into a housewife.

[–]greyhunter4 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Is there a good way to get their number out of them? Being around them long enough they usually out themselves as a hoe eventually but if they were considering you for LTR I imagine they'd hide it.

[–]czatara 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is the 1 million dollar question.

There's no sure way of doing it, but the general idea is to fake openness and acceptance while looking for inconsistencies and moments when she lets her guard down. E.g., if she tells you she's a virgin and likes you to pound hard her ass while having a big dildo in her pussy. Realize that you have the same instinctual mechanism to detect hoes as she has to detect betas: in ancient times, it could literally mean the difference between life and death for both.

I have nothing against high N-count women, but would never LTR one. Everyone faces the consequences of their actions.

[–]Oz70NYC 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Something...anything...that's indicative of their individual personality.

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    [–]PepeLePill 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    The problem here is that most women want the same thing. That's why they give those answers, because that's what they think we want to hear.

    [–]dapowa 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    downvotes are cause this article is on reddits mainpage.

    [–]Oz70NYC 15 points16 points  (0 children)

    Well son of a bitch, it is.

    [–]RedditAdminsSuck_88 17 points18 points  (4 children)



    "Free Spirited"

    [–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 58 points59 points  (1 child)

    Translation: I like guys who are fun, outgoing, and who don't openly judge my poor sexual decisions.

    [–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    "Syphilis" "HPV" "Herpes"

    Alternate spellings.

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      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      Emotional and financial stability is not vague provided he can back it up. Money is real.

      [–]adaman360 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Generic platitudes a large percentage of the male population can offer

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      You mean the 85% who earn average or minimum wage? They can barely pay their rent and bills. No I meant real financial security

      [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

      If you ask a female CEO that question who's been single and financially independent it changes things

      [–]mnemos_1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      A woman who has put in the effort to become useful in the business world has done so as a result of the perceived failure of the men around her to provide for her. The drive to be financially provided for is the same, the manifestation is different. Also why she's likely to be single - she'd assume at the beginning of each new inter-gender interaction that the other party would be a disappointment, ending up as a self-fulfilling prophecy.

      [–]morexel 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      If a woman actually provided those things I'd be game.

      [–]LaMaverice 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      So... What do you want? Genuinely curious.

      [–]Prime_Tyme 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      There's only one right answer to this question : Ass and Tits

      [–]1mojo_juju 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      "Affection, a good heart, honesty, loyalty, a sense of humor"

      Funny. You'd only find one of these (affection), and it would be conditional.

      A "good heart" is arguable-- sometimes some women actually make me think they have one.

      The other traits though... I'd never have an expectation of a woman offering them (honesty, loyalty, a sense of humor) because they're not traits women are capable of understanding.

      [–]razormachine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I'm curious to know they're answers.

      Usual lies that present her as perfect woman for you. However there is a good source of information within that.

      If she just want's to bang you, she will present herself as great lover.

      If she want's your commitment she will present herself as perfect wife.

      If she want's a beta orbiter she will present herself as a great friend with wink wink possibility of banging her.

      [–][deleted] 74 points75 points  (14 children)

      This is a natural consequence of legions of thirsty betas. Most people, not just women, will rise only as far as they must. Women are given an insane amount of validation just because vagina and it shows with how little most of them have to offer besides their pussy.

      I personally believe this is a large reason why accomplished women are stereotypically fugly. They do not receive that validation like the fuckable ones do.

      As a corollary, I also believe this is why an accomplished hottie is really fucking good at what she does. I haven't met many pretty women who have obviously earned their way (as opposed to getting by because female and hot) but those I have are outstanding at what they do because they're actually passionate about it.

      [–]ramaga 41 points42 points  (6 children)

      As a corollary, I also believe this is why an accomplished hottie is really fucking good at what she does. I haven't met many pretty women who have obviously earned their way (as opposed to getting by because female and hot) but those I have are outstanding at what they do because they're actually passionate about it.

      You're 100 percent right about this. I'm a lawyer, and have met literally hundreds of other lawyers over the years. I can think of exactly two female lawyers I'd consider hot. They were also two of the best lawyers I've ever dealt with. My theory is that when you are at a certain level of hotness as a woman, you have to work harder to be taken seriously in an intellect-based profession.

      [–]insoucianc 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      This true. I'm black and work twice as hard so that I can be considered an equal but because of it I landed a high paying job as a TA while an undergrad, became President of my University's Student Government, and my GPA and involvement has me on track to attend Grad School for free.

      [–]redpill-account 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Feel that.

      It's great because our parents generation was work twice as hard for half as much.

      Now I'm working twice as much and getting 10x (shout out grant cardone-google him if you haven't already )

      When more black people stop focusing on racism (it's there and an issue but can't really control how those people think), and just go HAM in school and business we can close the wealth gap in one generation

      [–]1ozaku7 16 points17 points  (1 child)

      Beta men put pussy on such a pedastal, that the pussy is worth as much as the financial, emotional support, loyalty, honesty and big dick as OP describes. It seems that in some cases you can devalue their pussy just by asking such a simple question, whether she has more to offer than her crotch, because apparently you look for someting more and she might desire that validation from you.

      [–]ctoth666 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      This. Women get validation just for having a vagina, when they aren't even attractive otherwise or have anything to offer. desperate beta men have created this problem.

      [–]Oz70NYC 8 points9 points  (2 children)

      Agreed. My "friend" who is a photographer...Puerto Rican, easy HB8...9 when dolled up, is phenomenal at what she does. She could easily be on the other side of the camera...if it weren't for the fact that she's "curvy".

      [–]realwo 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      Is that "friend" a fake friend or a fwb? What do the quotation marks mean?

      [–]BarackTheObama 41 points42 points  (0 children)

      Year 2000 +17 Men ShitTesting I love you guys

      [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

      Women having pussy to offer and men having resources, frame and game to offer is the smp. The neck snapping realization is when us, as guys actually realize this for the first time. This feminized culture has guys looking at things through the blue lens which obscures the reality of the smp. When you actually realize you're trading years of hard work, perseverance, experience and growth for a warm hole she was born with, it shifts your value perception just slightly. Granted, some women are beautiful people, I agree. But, that's a pretty fucking small percentage given our current state of things.

      [–]Oz70NYC 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Agreed. And my experiment is a means to thin the herd, so that my prospects are far more prosperous.

      [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 40 points41 points  (2 children)

      Women were only ever made for lovin', touchin', and squeezin'. They are for sex, arm candy, something good smelling and soft to snuggle against, and babies. You're chasing a dream. This notion of family based on 'love' is very recent. It was always about pragmatism.

      Don't expect her to be anything more. She just needs to put out, respect you, take care of the kids, and listen. To try otherwise is futile. You will irritate her and leave her confused. You're asking her to provide something she doesn't possess. Women are not made for that. Fulfill the rest yourself or with other dudes.

      [–]Forcetobereckonedwit 14 points15 points  (1 child)

      Sad but true. Their function is to bake babies, nurture and nurse babies, raise babies, and take care of "their" man. Everything they are and do stems from this biological trait.

      There's nothing wrong with that. In fact it is essential to the human species. Men have entirely different roles. None of this is rocket science.

      [–]brinkleybuzz 38 points39 points  (3 children)

      If any women are reading this thread, here's the correct answer to this question: "whatever you want" or "whatever your heart desires" if you want to get fancy with it.

      Bonus points if you end the answer by addressing us by our proper title: "my king", "muh lord", "master", something like that.

      [–]Oz70NYC 28 points29 points  (1 child)

      A woman clever enough to give that kind of response is a prime candidate. That's passing the shit test with flying colors.

      [–]realwo 6 points7 points  (3 children)

      Not trying to be a grammar nazi but want to understand what you mean exactly when you say not intangible.

      So to wrap this up, when asked what they have to offer to a man, most women are inclined to pretty much list all of the bullshit that society and centuries of social programming have told them they should offer a man...not intangible, individual things that make them stand out from other women.

      The short, generalized version: "Affection, a good heart, honesty, loyalty, a sense of humor". The atypical stuff you'd find splattered all over a dating profile.

      Do you mean that their bullshit answer has a lot of intangible things or a lot of tangible things?

      Your subsequent reply mentions that women say they offer things like "affection, a good heart, honesty, loyalty, a sense of humor" which are intangible.

      The meaning of intangible is "unable to be touched; not having physical presence" while the meaning of tangible is "perceptible by touch" so I'm trying to understand what you meant by not intangible.

      /u/tylertgbh What did you understand from the post of Oz70NYC?

      [–]Oz70NYC 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      Short version, women rattle of intangible qualities because only a VERY select few have tangible nuances they can list as valued assets need to secure a man...aside from her vagina.

      [–]realwo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      I see, so you meant to say "tangible, individual things that make them stand out from other women" rather than the original "intangible, individual things" in your post.

      [–]Oz70NYC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Typo I guess. I'll go back and correct it.

      [–]1ozaku7 37 points38 points  (65 children)

      The first post I actually saved for later reference. I was contemplating the same thing, but then in the construct of human relationships, such as defining what an acquintance, friend, friend with benefits and partner is. It all comes down that a girlfriend is noone else but a friend which you fuck, exclusively. Nothing else. What are friends? Two people that like to hang out because they share the same interests and can have fun together. You know, to dope yourself up on dopamine together and get a meaning out of life.

      You become friends who you find interesting, funny, and a friendship is estabilished if you can offer something to them aswell. It's a trade of demand and offer which complement each other and form a friendship. Throw in sex and exclusivity, and you have a partner.

      Ask them this question next, what a friendship is, and what a relationship is. It's really nothing else but a friendship with exclusivity and fucking. You can find friendships anywhere else, exclusivity is optional, and if you can fuck anyone you want, you already have what you need in life.

      [–]Oz70NYC 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      That's actually pretty damn poignant. Didn't even cross my mind to think of that before reading your response. Thanks for the insight.

      [–]pfffft_comeon 2 points3 points  (63 children)

      girlfriend is noone else but a friend which you fuck,

      your gf or wife or whatever is not your friend. blue pill.

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        [–]pfffft_comeon 6 points7 points  (34 children)

        wrong I have had and continue to have enjoyable relationships

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          [–]midgetpooooo 11 points12 points  (8 children)

          Friends are there for each other and can talk about anything. Try talking to your gf/wife like one of your friends and see how cringe it is. Or see when she leaves you one day how much of a friend to you she really is.

          [–]RPBulletDodger 16 points17 points  (12 children)

          as a friend or equal...

          There it is. That is your weakness bro, not ours.

          My plates are not my friends, and certainly nowhere near approaching my equal.

          [–]firestell 2 points3 points  (7 children)

          If being friends with your gf worked than the "friendzone" wouldn't be a thing.

          [–]Andramoiennepe 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          But what you don't understand is that men and women are not equals. If we were, there would be a 100m race in the Olympics. But, no, there is a men's race and a women's race run separately, because we are not equals. Seeing as we are not equals--especially when it comes to sex (as a man, for example, I cannot give birth, and therefore have a fundamentally different outlook and relationship to sex and reproduction)--we are after fundamentally different things in a partner. I don't want or need a woman to financially provide for me or to protect me when I am walking down a dark street. Your woman WANTS and NEEDS, if not the former, definitely the latter. She will expect it of you. She will also want you to have some social clout (or you will be more attractive to her if you do). You probably don't care much about that in her. But you do care if she shows qualities of being a good nurturer (kind, empathetic, selfless, a good cook, interested and capable at cleaning/managing a house and schedule), if she is physically attractive (i.e. fit to carry and bear your offspring), etc., etc. So, no, you are not looking for an equal.

          She wants you a certain way and you want her a certain way. And therein lies the basis of attraction. If it's good, there's a certain intimacy that develops, and if it's really good, YOU set goals and divide up the work in terms of whomever is best at each task (as any successful team or business works ... and you, as the more rational and far-sighted member should largely set that agenda), which, yeah, you could call a friendship. But one that is a lot different than a buddy relationship. A woman doesn't want to fuck her buddy. She wants to fuck her king, a man better than all rivals, who leads her and protects her and provides for her.

          [–]MisfitMind00 5 points6 points  (24 children)

          Trump hater and women apologist. What else do you wanna share with us? Oh I know, we must be racist and mysoginist.

          [–]grewapair 13 points14 points  (2 children)

          This is why I never got married. Every guy these women have dated have trained them well: spread your legs, offer nothing, demand, demand, and demand some more (time, money, etc.) and you can get guys by the truckload.

          When I start demanding that they actually contribute to my life instead of just bleeding me dry, either they're just physically and psychologically incapable of it, and won't do it, or they dump me and find another guy who won't ask for anything but duty sex once a week, while providing them endless amounts of time and money.

          Geez, just buy a Fleshlight. So much cheaper in the long run. Your time and money are forever yours.

          [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          women offer reproduction and sexual satisfaction

          if yoi expext more, you will be disappointed

          look for women who give you the above and treat you right

          [–]theredpill22 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          As an incredibly cynical person, I enjoy women's spontaneous nature and their generally over-emotional, dramatic way of going about life. I find it entertaining and it makes it easy to forget about the harsh realities of life. I can enjoy being "in the moment" with them, instead of constantly thinking about money, my career or my progress in the gym.

          Obviously they're also nice to look at and to have sex with.

          I've accepted their true nature and this makes it easier to enjoy their company. I no longer expect loyalty out of women. I can be in their company and have great sex, but also be ok with the fact that it will probably pass and that all good things come to an end. Everything in this world is impermanent.

          Your only hope of unconditional love is from your parents, if you didn't get it from them then you never will. Now that is a fucking hard thing to accept.

          [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

          Tommy is under appreciated. Mans redpilled as fuck, gets a lot of hate for it too

          [–]Oz70NYC 6 points7 points  (1 child)

          I've followed him for over 6 years now. The truth the man speaks is legendary. His philosophy on black women and black America as a whole is spot on. But that's a discussion I don't think TRP is ready for.

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Sure it is, just the older crowd

          [–]RedPillWintergreen 4 points5 points  (1 child)

          Interesting social experiment but what do you expect them to say. What does a woman have to offer a man? A nurturing personality that would be good with kids, a pleasant appearance that would make it enjoyable to make them. What does a man have to offer a woman? Provision and protection for her and the children, plus favorable genetics. All attraction derives from that. Everything else is window dressing and bullshit (Honesty, Sense of humor, We both like the same movies, etc.).

          [–]DigitallyDisrupt 7 points8 points  (0 children)

          The problem is, the decline of civilisation, as life is made too easy.

          If everything "electrical" ended today, in two days, society would be in chaos, with those "nurturing" women at the head of the pack, begging for someone to help them. Men to help them.

          Any real man, does not need a woman to survive in non-civilization, a woman couldn't last a year without support when society fails.

          That is the entire point.

          [–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 5 points6 points  (2 children)

          well, if you keep seeing bartenders and "free spirits" and wild childs, what exactly do you expect them to offer? so you dropped the question to 4 broads that are not even LTR material in any decent man's book, and you say "most women".. ok, whatever i guess. i think you might want to step up in class of women a bit if you want to settle down before 40 bro.

          [–]Oz70NYC 3 points4 points  (1 child)

          I'll say the same thing I said to another poster who made a similar comment. You assume the examples I listed are all of my options, whereas I state clearly and multiple times that they are the ones I initially ran the experiment on. Not all. I deal with women of all walks of life. High status, middle class and so on. Try reading the whole post before making opinionated and misinformed replies, eh? Give it a shot...see how it works for you in the future.

          [–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 5 points6 points  (0 children)

          i did read your post in its entirety. maybe if you make an experiment that involves a broad range of women that you date and report the results, my response might be different.

          [–]ChickenBalotelli 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Big ups for having the balls to ask that question. I can actually imagine how it would have a positive effect on her behavior after putting her on her toes versus being too comfortable with you.

          [–]Monsterzz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          I've found a few women with true passion. They are able to offer something tangible and not sex. Some have been experience with situations, general knowledge which can be quickly applied and others have been true motivation towards something like being successful or earning money. These are the type of women that I strive towards being around more. Not girls who want companionship for the sake of drowning out their loneliness. Those kind of girls generally do not have anything they can offer since they have never worked for anything.

          [–]Somemistakesweremade 33 points34 points  (82 children)

          Maybe you should pay more attention on quality women, that offer something besides pussy and not domican bartenders?

          [–]Oz70NYC 97 points98 points  (73 children)

          For clarification: * Dominican bartender * Korean school teacher * Kenyan nurse * Irish interior designer * Puerto Rican photographer (The "free spirited" one)

          If you're flavor is white colored chicks, that's your business. I'm around them 5 days a week at my work, why the hell would I want to date one? Furthermore, your idea that a bartender is "low quality" speaks volumes about your own character. But again...that's your business.

          [–]PastLifeGypsy 20 points21 points  (5 children)

          Furthermore, your idea that a bartender is "low quality" speaks volumes about your own character.

          This woman happens to work in an environment where alcohol and other drugs are consumed on a regular basis. She gets male attention all the time. Heck, she probably even slept with her boss once. But that's all good. After all, she's your business.

          [–]good_guy_submitter 7 points8 points  (2 children)

          Depends on the bar. If it's an upscale restaurant bar then you are very wrong. If it's a dive bar or something club then you are spot on.

          [–]Oz70NYC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Kola House in SoHo. The website is all you need to see to determine what kind of establishment it is.

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            [–]PastLifeGypsy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Mr. Cuck (OP) knows better, though.

            [–]basedmattnigga7 39 points40 points  (17 children)

            You're doing it right man. I'm white, and I do my best to stay away from white chicks. They're all very similar in my opinion.

            My most hassle free relationship was with an Asian chick. She opened my eyes to how drama free relationships can be. She was just available, didn't text me every fucking hour/day, and didn't expect ANYTHING from me, like a white chick would.

            I also like your answer to the reverse question... the four things. I'm stealing that shit cuz it's true and will definitely resonate/hit hard.

            [–]Oz70NYC 45 points46 points  (13 children)

            I do date black women...just not African American ones. If they're from Africa, or Europe (United Kingdom, Amsterdam, etc.) then yes. One of the gals I'm seeing is from Kenya. NOTHING like the typical American black woman. But I'm not even gonna go into that...I'd be here typing for hours.

            [–]ramaga 10 points11 points  (0 children)

            Like you, I'm black. Also like you, I refuse to date African American women. I gave up on them as hopeless years ago. There are some good ones out there, but I got sick of sifting through the ghetto dross (and the non-ghetto dross who still had a ghetto mentality) to find the handful of gems. I will date black women, though, just not black women raised in the U.S.

            [–]Ivan_The_RP 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            Eddie. What have you done for me lately?

            [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 10 points11 points  (7 children)

            I've found the same, currently have a Mexican - Apache girl I'm fucking, she actually has something more than moist holes, and all her holes are always available to me. I've had decent experiences with girls from India, Kenya, Togo, Ivory Coast, and all over Europe. Usually the white girls are quick fucks with nothing more to it. Most aren't that great at fucking either. Russian, Ukraine, Moldova, Poland, Finland, and used to be German girls were my preferred white girls, but I'm no longer in Europe.

            I'm white, but prefer dark skin and hair. Where I live there aren't many that aren't white, so I end up traveling to get them. Apache girl is 7 hours away. The tech University is 2.5 hours drive and they have lots of Asian girls, India and China etc. With the engineering type guys being utterly gameless, it's easy to get those girls naked. Everywhere I go there the guys hate me, the girls want my cock. It's amusing. Asian girls have always been easy for me.

            Most American girls are shit, nothing more than a warm moist hole in which to jack off.

            [–]Questionnaire7 16 points17 points  (4 children)

            Engineering guy with no game checking in here. You pegged it right

            [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 11 points12 points  (3 children)

            I'm helping an Indian engineering student with his game, haven't brought him here yet, but dude has seen what I can do.

            [–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            What is an Indian doing in Alabama?

            [–]DigitallyDisrupt 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            Probably looking over his shoulder most of the time.

            [–]Oz70NYC 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrretty much. Ones worth spending time on are few and far between.

            [–]V4PINDT1992 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Hispanic women are fucking awesome. Try out freshly immigrated or at least the daughter of one.

            [–]Appleseed12333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            That's actually a good topic for a new thread.

            [–]gazzaa2 17 points18 points  (1 child)

            White women are far too spoilt.

            [–]yomo86 12 points13 points  (0 children)

            I would not even go that far. Those poor chicks have been told for ages that they can have it all. Marriage, kids, competing with men for jobs, getting validation from what you are (woman/mother) and what you can (job/skills).

            Men also have been lied to in this perspective. You can have a caring, sex-crazed strong wife, awesome kids and the house in the 'burbs if you slave away your life in a meaningless job.

            [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            I'm white and I've never been with a white girl. If they're a 8-10 they've been spoiled by beta dudes most likely and they play hard to get. I find latinas to be way more outgoing and black chicks are a lot more fun. Maybe my game just sucks

            [–]Bsomin 7 points8 points  (27 children)

            You said they were conquests, and this whole post is about how they don't have anything to offer you besides those bodies right now. Their occupations do not define them, your dick does not define you. If the person you are dating doesnt make you happier better person then that's on you.

            I married a woman who is my intellectual equal, she has her own great career and we want the same things in life - kids, fulfilling careers, volunteerism, and an early retirement.

            She brings more than half to the relationship, if you don't have that then I feel sorry for you.

            [–]I_Need_More_Space_ 3 points4 points  (22 children)

            Good for you, Buddy. You can definitely have all those things with an ugly wife that's past her prime. She won't leave you. Definitely.

            Now, get married with a good looking woman, have some kids with her, and she will soon branch swing (divorce you), and leave you high and dry (P.S. I first heard the term "Starter Marriage" on the West Coast).

            Just ask all the divorcees in the U.S. and the Westernized World (Are we at a 60% divorce rate yet?).

            I've never been married. I travel professionally and for leisure. I've been on a rock climbing and mostly skiing (Squaw/Alpine) sabbatical for the last 6 months. I'm 6'2". I've been told I'm a "Beautiful Man" by the current woman who has fallen in love with me. And I'm super happy.

            Married and divorced friends of mine tell me to keep doing what I'm doing. They don't bother trying to shame me into marriage, because really their bargaining points don't stand up to my own. Instead they support my choices and views as if I'm their mascot through which they live vicariously. Haha! They love me for it, although I do run into haters who can't stand to see a happy single man.

            So please don't feel sorry for me. Your supposed pity is based on your perception that you have accomplished something. There are many people who are unplugging from the delusion of marriage in the West.

            Save your pity. Save it for your deathbed. It is only then that you will clearly see your life in its truest form. And most people find regret on their deathbed, because they just followed what society mandated. So many people pass from this life having never truly lived. Save your pity for them. Save your pity for your future self. Cheers.

            [–]SilverWolfeBlade 1 point2 points  (3 children)

            But if he doesnt live with the risk of financial collapse from divorce rape... And he's happy.

            Why feel bad?

            [–]Bsomin 3 points4 points  (2 children)

            Please most people aren't in a position to worry about financial rape and if you are you can protect your assets, many ways to do so.

            Also I feel bad because he is giving up half of what makes life great.

            [–]SilverWolfeBlade 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            I wish I had your sunshine glasses and someone shit rainbows all day.

            Stay happy.

            [–]WhorehouseVet 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            I feel bad when people ride their motorcycles without a helmet because they're giving up half of what makes motorcycle rides great.

            [–]Toussant 1 point2 points  (10 children)

            What is your idea of quality and have you sought after it? You say low quality then bring up examples, which is why the post you replied to linked it to your example.

            [–]Oz70NYC 9 points10 points  (9 children)

            Low quality to me is a woman who's pretty much looking for a hand out. Looking for a man to support her every need, with no ambition to exist on her own. That's a low quality woman to me.

            [–]Toussant 2 points3 points  (8 children)

            Plenty of well-to-doers in NY. Going back to the original question/suggestion, why not go for those.

            [–]Oz70NYC 3 points4 points  (7 children)

            Cuz the ones I've met, and plated...turn out to be shallow and superficial lib-tards. I have to actually be able to stomach talking to a chick before I can fuck her. The "well-to-do" women I've been involved with in the last few years boarder that territory. I can think of one I actually keep contact with, and that's because while she's a class-A superficial cunt of a woman...she's a damn good lay. Not saying all are like that...just in my own experience...that's what I've come across.

            [–]DicklessAlpha 9 points10 points  (6 children)

            I have a question to TRP in general, why do you upvote uncouth aggressive assholes like this? I mean it can be talked out without taking a smug flippant tone and using pedestrian street words.

            But it's all 'Damn right I showed this bitch' attitude smeared all over his comments. This isn't a man at peace, whats worse he is 40 yrs old and comes off as an angsty teenager.

            And seriously ?Some woman thought 'financial stability and a big dick' was hot af? Jesus.

            If that is what's keeping her interested she'll find bigger dicks with richer wallets sooner than you think.

            [–]insoucianc 4 points5 points  (2 children)

            They upvote him because such attitudes can get you laid. Whether you agree with him or not, acting uncouth to enough women eventually sure gets you laid a hell of a lot faster than being a "gentleman". When women stop rewarding such behaviour then men will stop practicing it.

            Obviously such an attitude won't get women to stick around but if you're spinning plates you don't care anyway. Attitudes such as his can become the logical conclusion for those who truly internalise the tenets of sexual strategy that TRP advocates. Such rhetoric is a symptom of the cessation of this community's own narrative regarding women's real and perceived disposability, vapidity, and self-servitude.

            [–]CallMeHaseo 0 points1 point  (3 children)

            My man is stunting on em, dudes getting the Korean booty?! Awwww man!

            [–]Oz70NYC 2 points3 points  (2 children)

            Interesting story about her. She was my oldest nephew's 3rd grade teacher, and I casually flirted with her for most of the school year. I waited until he advanced to 4th grade to actually make my move, and she was DTF. She "says" I'm her 1st black guy...but I take that with a grain of salt.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            I like your portfolio. The Korean school teacher and Puerto Rican photographer sound especially fun.

            [–]Oz70NYC 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            I'm a man of varying tastes.

            [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (6 children)

            Let's hear it my man, what do these "quality women" offer?

            [–]Oz70NYC 1 point2 points  (5 children)

            To quantify it in the most simplest form, a quality woman to me is a woman who brings as much to the relationship as I do. 50/50 in all areas. She lacks on no points needed to keep me invested in staying with her. Unless you want me to go into specifics...you'd be reading for a while.

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              [–]Oz70NYC 1 point2 points  (3 children)

              Only as much as you are an idiot. Damn...guess that makes me a flamming faggot, doesn't it?

              [–]Hunnybunny6 19 points20 points  (30 children)

              You do realise that those things girls look for in guys generally aren't the things we get either. Most guys don't have big dicks, aren't sex Gods, aren't comedians, aren't very rich or very handsome. But the thing is, relationship aren't about finding a perfect person with the list you had in mind, there mostly about finding a person that makes you feel good with, that you mesh well with, that you want to be with. If you bunch all females as the same person and just think they are holes and nothing more you will never find something long term. You will always be disappointed because humans arent perfect, you never going to find the perfect list. But if you think males have more to offer, then stop wasting your time with women. You clearly don't see the value in women, so why force it.

              [–]Oz70NYC 24 points25 points  (6 children)

              Since it's clear parts of my post flew clear over your head like the Screaming Eagles on the 4th of July...let me give you some added context. The question is aimed to find out what is in THEIR heads. And my answer to the flip of the question is designed to be purposefully misogynistic. It's a shit test designed to see if the woman has designs on what she actually wants in a LTR, or if her ideals are manufactured by what society says she should want. And in each case I posed the question, the answer given by each gal was exactly that...cookie cutter, manufactured ideals of what "Mr. Right" should be.

              I know what I want in the woman I essentially whittle it down to. A woman I can be "me" with. Who can accept that I'm a cynical, sarcastic, neurotic, analytical asshole. A woman who challenges me mentally, and doesn't buckle or break when I do the same to her. A woman worthy of baring and raising my children. In no way, shape, for or fashion do I mention in any form that "males have more to offer". I don't even know where the hell you even came up with that idea.

              [–]UmphreysMcGee 19 points20 points  (4 children)

              I'm still confused as to why you think their answers were cookie cutter and yours aren't.

              A woman I can be "me" with. Who can accept that I'm a cynical, sarcastic, neurotic, analytical asshole.

              Uh, is this like the red pill version of this bullshit quote feminists love to throw around?

              "I'm selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best."

              Sure sounds like it. If you're a cynical, neurotic asshole then why aren't you working towards self improvement? Those aren't personality traits anyone should accept about themselves.

              [–]adaman360 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              ^ this 100%. He's claiming some moral high ground d while giving the same bullshit answer he's complaining about...all as some sort of test to see if women are worthy.

              Reality....he gets no pussy IRL

              [–]Oz70NYC 1 point2 points  (2 children)

              Believe whatever you want, dude.

              [–]UmphreysMcGee 1 point2 points  (1 child)

              You going to answer my question or dodge it like a chick would? What's next, hamstering?

              [–]Oz70NYC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              About the only aspect I actively look to work on is the neurosis and being an asshole part. The asshole part is more in jest then anything else. If you're an asshole to me, I reciprocate in kind. Now the neurosis, that stems from aspects that I'm not going to speak about publicly. Obviously it's a long term process to deal with...so naturally a woman capable of accepting it's existence in me, and help me along with actually dealing with it is a plus.

              [–]1Ronin11A 7 points8 points  (3 children)

              But the thing is, relationship aren't about finding a perfect person with the list you had in mind, there mostly about finding a person that makes you feel good with, that you mesh well with, that you want to be with. If you bunch all females as the same person and just think they are holes and nothing more you will never find something long term.

              How the fuck is this up-voted? Did TRP lose its goddamn ballsack?

              [–]SilverWolfeBlade 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              They pretended to swallow the pill.

              [–]UmphreysMcGee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Why shouldn't it be? The redpill was never about hating women friend. If you can find a woman who makes you happy there's nothing wrong with having a LTR.

              AWALT isn't meant to be taken completely literally. Obviously all women aren't really the exact same, they just tend to behave similarly in certain situations. Knowing how to handle these situations in a way that keeps men in the driver's seat is what this sub is supposed to be about.

              [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 14 points15 points  (11 children)

              Yeah... Fuck dat. They are all just a series of holes until they consistently deliver proof they are anything more. And all that not because I think so, but they actually do.

              Do what Patrice O'Neal did and ask any women what she would do to keep her man if, by some freakish accident, she suddenly lost her pussy - it's just gone.

              The answers are always the same: blowjobs and anal. They all don't see themselves as anything more than three holes with some meat around it. Now think what your answer would be as a man.

              Your bullshit blue pill mindset might maybe find you somebody, but it will just be somebody your brain and your chemicals chose for you because you believed on your feel good retardedness during NRE.

              Now go back to reading the sidebar instead of boring us with your NAWALT idiocy.

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                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                I believe he was talking to the OP of the reply, not to you.

                [–][deleted]  (6 children)


                  [–]SilverWolfeBlade 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                  Nothing good lasts forever.

                  I remember when hitting like 80k readers was a huge milestone.

                  Just like how there are people who came and fucked with the bible, editing it, removing parts that they didnt like and adding their own. The message of TRP is being misinterpreted to fit into the reality of some people who are too blue to fully swallow the pill.

                  And now we get these "quality" posts.

                  Holy shit I feel like a Grandfather looking into his grandchilds eyes with disgust at how much of an ignorant pussy he is and that my generation knew what was up.

                  Point is, people aren't getting the message. It interferes with their feelz fantasy of finding the one.

                  I don't have anything to add, other than gratitude at what this sub has done for me these last 3 years.

                  [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  Notice the same, looks like a lot of blue-pilled guys, feminists, and women (of either sex) generally have decided to try to derail. This seems to happen periodically.

                  [–]pfffft_comeon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  a lot of that in this thread

                  [–]1Ronin11A 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  What the fuck is this bullshit? a 1-month account spouting NAWALT feel-good nonsense and getting upvoted?

                  Literally just wrote the same. Also, love that you're getting down-voted. What the actual fuck happened to this place?

                  [–]Orobek 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                  OP, can you give some examples of answers you would have been surprised and happy to hear from these girls?

                  [–]Oz70NYC 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                  Something as simple as "A nice rack and a home cooked meal." ANYTHING aside from bullet points from the "what I have to offer to a man' playbook.

                  [–]Orobek 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                  I know you said the answer you gave to them was purposefully bullshit (eg. Honesty, loyalty, Big dick), but what is your real answer?

                  [–]Oz70NYC 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  My real answer is 100% engagement and investment. To make her a better woman then when I met her, no matter what her social status is. Engage and challenge mind, body and spirit...so that the only man on her mind is me.

                  [–]Mildly_Sociopathic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Could someone explain wth happened in that third paragraph? It makes no sense.

                  It's like he cut the middle part out.

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  All I thought when I read this was... "Someone does BJJ!" I do it we well comrade 😀, thanks for the post.

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  OP, what if she says stuff like: I really love you, I like being with you, I want to take care of you, I am great with housework, I want children with you, I can cook. Do you think those traditionally feminine traits are worthwhile?

                  [–]Oz70NYC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  A response of that nature tells me that she's seriously invested in being part of my life. However while that is a passing response, I'd dig deeper to see if she's merely interested securing her own means.

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                  [–]Oz70NYC 11 points12 points  (4 children)

                  Almost as much as I cringe at these chest beating "me man, me no make joke" posts. Lighten the fuck up, fella.

                  [–]1GreenPiller 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                  You are getting so much hate right now lol. Good post OP, although the comments seem to be flooded with non-trp guys for some weird reason

                  [–]Oz70NYC 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                  Somehow my post made it to the frontpage of reddit, so it's attracting more BP attention then normal. All I can do is read and laugh at the childish attempts of these "men" to assassinate my character. Truly hilarious it is. Futility at it's finest.

                  [–]patrice_plz_come_bac 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  OP, understand that this post attracts all the non-trp members trying to unbalance the sub. Post is golden though

                  [–]1OneRedYear 2 points3 points  (10 children)

                  Have you ever had one? Is that why it bothers you so much?

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (17 children)

                  I am looking for a LTR

                  Mistake number 1, why commit yourself to one when you can spin multiple?

                  [–]Oz70NYC 5 points6 points  (16 children)

                  Spinning seven at the moment, dude.

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (11 children)

                  Exactly, so why drop all of them just for one?

                  [–]Oz70NYC 16 points17 points  (4 children)

                  I'm old. Well...getting there. I'll be 40 in 2 years. I want kids. I want a RP woman who "gets it". Even if she doesn't at 1st, if she has the capacity to swallow the pill herself...I'll give it to her. So right now, I'm feeling out who among them has that capacity. Could be none of them, then I just keep my search going, and have my fun along the way.

                  [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 5 points6 points  (5 children)

                  Logistics, time management, ease of use. Don't catch the feels for them and having one makes it convenient at times. When you can get them easily, it doesn't matter if you have 1 or 20.

                  [–]Goblingirl33 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                  Isn't that hard? I'd be completely worn out mentally.

                  [–]Oz70NYC 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  That's why I'm trying to whittle it down to 1. Maybe 3...at the most.

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  One would be a mistake. Maybe read BlackDragon's thoughts on the matter. LTR is fine, as long as it is an MLTR. Once you have fully committed yourself to one only the balance of control changes. Marriage pretty much kills dread completely, but if you are fully committed and obviously so (ie have oneitis) it is largely gone.

                  [–]Pingwinho 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                  So you laugh at them for stating the same shit "that society programmed them to think men want", but think you're the hot shit when you, well, say some shit that TRP programmed you to think women want? Heavy lulz.

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                  [–]SilverWolfeBlade 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                  Watch The Black Phillip Show. For fucks sake.

                  [–]Oz70NYC 5 points6 points  (3 children)

                  And people like you with no sense of humor give humanity a bad name. And trying to beta shame me because my choice of vernacular appease your exacting standards? The irony eludes you. Not even going to entertain further interaction with you. Blocked. Dismissed. Good day.

                  [–]akaNeon1 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                  Hey man I'm not beta shaming.

                  I don't now what that is do I don't think I'm doing it.

                  As to sense of humour, if you're actually joking about calling a girl you're in LTR with a main bitch then fine. But I doubt that.

                  And what is vernacular appease.

                  [–]patrice_plz_come_bac 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                  Isnt there a rule against moralising?

                  [–]1Sir_Distic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  Yes. Even a selection when you report someone.

                  [–]WhorehouseVet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Saving this as a constant reminder. I believe this this the underlying question we ask when we qualify women.

                  I do wonder if this can be used on women before any sex takes place.

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