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Red Pill TheoryTips for Alphas on Frame and Game (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Fizzdar

A pure, natural alpha doesn't need tips and tricks for maintaining frame, but I am anything but a natural alpha and these are some simple techniques I've employed to "fake it till I make it" with respect to communicating with women, including in a LTR.

Never discuss your feelings or emotions. Just don't. Holding her hand in silence or hugging her warmly is all she needs. Do not betray your inner emotional life to a woman's fickle ears.

Do not talk about yourself. Don't psychoanalyze yourself out loud to her. Talk about the things you love and enjoy. Don't talk about yourself. She is not worthy of that. That is for a close male friend if at all.

Occasionally be unexpectedly thoughtful. Give her a cupcake with your names on it. Pick her a flower. Tiny expressions like this, devoid of any verbal affection and followed immediately by a return to the relatively aloof and stoic frame, can pierce a woman's heart with an emotional snag that sparks a deeper kind of attraction and love.

Be in charge of goodbyes. Initiate departures most of the time. If she says she should probably get going, immediately comply with a smile. Always appear comfortable leaving.

Touch her. You are entitled to her body. It's your toy for you to play with and enjoy. Assume this right as early as possible, beginning with benign physical contact and quickly escalating. It's her responsibility to protect herself from unwanted physical affection, not yours to guess how much affection she is comfortable with. Her restricting your access is funny, always. Acting butt-hurt about being rejected is tremendously unattractive.

Regularly temporarily withdraw from initiating any physical affection. Find that you're touching her first a lot? Withdraw for 15 minutes to an hour. Don't refuse her touch, just abstain from initiating it. She may not notice this consciously but subconsciously it can trigger a slightly oxytocin deficiency that will clue her into how much she needs you.

Sex should consist of her acting in submission to you. In bed, she is a rag doll, a slave. Exercise complete dominion over your woman in bed. The only limits to your alpha expression in bed should be legal ones. Don't be an English farmer, be a Viking pillager.

Obligatory: Lift 3x week, keep a top-tier haircut, wear good clothes (if you have no idea where to start, just go to H&M and Urban Outfitters).

Ditch all processed foods. Eat as clean as possible. This will improve every aspect of your life immediately. If you need to ween off processed foods, start with clean breakfasts, then add clean lunches, etc. No added sugar, no corn syrup. Buy natural ingredients and learn to enjoy simple home-cooked meals.

Meditate. Just do it. Meditate every day. If you don't know where to start, sit down somewhere, close your eyes, and count your breaths to 100. Tame your mind.

Cut out all porn. It's time to put that away. Fantasizing is for teenagers.

Experiment with abstaining from masturbation. Shoot for one week and observe the cognitive and hormonal effects. Everyone is different but many people find that abstaining dramatically increases social confidence and energy. This has been my experience. YMMV.

Usually wait at least 10 minutes before responding to a text. If you're hanging out waiting to receive a text on your phone, at least pretend you're not.

Don't use smiley faces, exclamation marks, or laughing ("haha," "lol).

Send less words to her than she is to you. Count them. Additionally, a text should be less than 8 words. At least 75% of texts sent to her should be unserious, witty, flirtatious, teasing. Texting is for entertainment, not meaningful relationship-building.

Before sending a text, ask yourself this question regarding the text: "Could an idiot have written this text?" Don't say things like "How are you?" Don't ask her about her day. Tie in a previous bit of information in a witty way. Stimulate your woman's mind in a way that other people can't.

Never discuss feelings or emotions via text. Your sincere thoughts are probably too meaningful and sacred to even be communicated verbally to your woman, let alone put into a cheap text.

Text less. Regularly fail completely to respond or acknowledge her texts, including questions that seem important to her. You love her, but you love yourself more and you have a life to attend to. Furthermore, occasionally ignore her for periods of time ranging from 12 to 48 hours. Two days of radio silence, unexplained, will increase attraction from a woman who is already has feelings for you. For a long-term relationship, 24 hours may be sufficient. I promise you that causing your girlfriend emotional pain by occasionally ignoring her for an uncomfortable 24 hours will directly result in more attraction, not less.

If you are a hopelessly beta, bottom of the barrel male, I recommend shocking your system by committing yourself to a couple of days of solitude in the wilderness. Buy some gear and go into the wilderness for a couple of days with food and water. Avoid trails, climb mountains, get lost, take some risks. If this seems unnecessary or dangerous, you are still psychologically a child.


[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 130 points131 points  (9 children)

Good tips!

Usually wait at least 10 minutes before responding to a text

No. Respond RANDOMLY to texts. Sometimes you're busy and don't respond for hours or even the same day. Other times you respond instantly.

Being unpredictable is better than delaying all your responses by 10 minutes, which she'll learn to expect and work around.

Text less. Regularly fail completely to respond or acknowledge her texts,

Right.

Your life (mission, fitness, friends, social life) is your priority. Women are second. Individual woman comes third.

I promise you that causing your girlfriend emotional pain

Her emotional pain directly translates into your sexual pleasure, with no intermediate steps.

It's not even painful for her. Just mildly emotionally alerting. It's not like she's crying because you didn't answer her text straight away. And if she is, she's got mental problems. It's just not boring.

[–]refusewool 34 points35 points  (1 child)

Agree with replying at random intervals. As Dante Nero said in TBP, you must be consistently inconsistent.

[–]sd4c 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Upvoted for The Black Phillip Show

RIP Patrice, we miss you, brother

[–]Motor-boat 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Right. Giving advice on how to text is tricky. It's just one man's anecdotes. I could tell you that I've texted love poems. I get laid. What's the connection, is there a connection? Better just understand what she wants and when. And how to give it while maintaining frame--that part goes without saying. Lol sorry, new to this sub. I hope I'm getting it.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Did you write the poems yourself or were they cutesy things ya found online?

[–]Motor-boat 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I wrote them myself. They are mostly humor.

[–]aDrunkenWhaler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can confirm with the love poems. Albeit, mine had some bdsm sex content.

[–]bears451 -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

Being unpredictable is better than delaying all your responses by 10 minutes, which she'll learn to expect and work around.

He said wait at LEAST 10 minutes.... Or did you fail to understand that part...

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 6 points7 points  (1 child)

and I am saying sometimes LESS than 10 minutes.

[–]RPmatrix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No. Respond RANDOMLY to texts. Sometimes you're busy and don't respond for hours or even the same day.

Other times you respond instantly

Agreed, it's called "being spontaneous" and following some "wait 10mins" rule isn't being spontaneous. If I get a txt and I'm in the middle of writing an email, I might read the text but if it's a personal txt I'll wait until I'm finished doing whatever I'm doing until I respond.

But aside from that one small point a few people have chosen to uselessly pick out to harp upon at least you matty spoke your mind, FTR!

I liked the OP, overall it was 98% solid advice and instructions on "how to be confident enough to be yourself and not fuck it up at the same time",

Nothing there is a uniquely "alpha" behavior but it did cover many BP behaviors many guys don't even realize they are doing, esp the classic BP shit that kills attraction quicker than she can get her panties back on!

Doing the DisneyBP things many BP guys will do following their BP programming via the Batchelor/ette et al, is truly cringeworthy and saddening to see.

As are the entitled attitudes of "today's woman" who is Equal in every way, right? Who take pleasure in fucking with guys heads just becoz they can and it 'makes them feel powerful'. If you can get an honest answer from a HB about how much they use their 'Pussy Power' you'd be surprised!

Most girls are acutely aware of the guys behavior towards them, and by 13yo any natural HB is getting LOTS of attention from men of all ages! Can you imagine what it's like to know every male between 13 and 30 is/has been looking at you?

Then by the time she's 18, guys hit on her every time she goes out i public, school, streeet, whatever, she knows All the guys want a piece of her cunt! We've all seen this power weilded by women in many self serving ways and they will tell you it's intoxicating to have all these men almost fight over you, it's very primal and exciting for some! Our sexual behavior was never meant to be intellectualized! lol

TV Shows like these so called "reality" shows, along with shit like The Bold and the Beautiful which teach many a BP man (and if his mum was single, who taught him what she learned from such shit she then taught her kid/s)

The things pretty much All the things which wiil make a fun time go from fucking awesome to wtf? and the worst part is, the mindfuck as they've got No idea 'what just happened?' They did all the things they see 'work' on TV, so wtf?????

And many BP behaviors are instant plate smashers i.e. anything that even suggests that 'you need her on any level!

She want's "her man" to be the leader, she'll be happy to follow a guy who is happy with himself, which will show from their natural confidence, as IME very few people 'reject a truly happy person'

And until those men work out the basic stuff, most of the things the OP laid out are areas to be aware of how much potential you have to fuck up with with a few 'wrong words' you thought were 'bon mots' or good things to say, but

in 2017 women want to feel like they're doing the choosing, which is 'normal' and they're emotionally wired to feel and respond to situations where 'she can choose her mate.

Remember women are always naturally hypergamous and are "always on the lookout for her ideal mate"

AWALT, and never forget, Briffault's Law ... she can and will change her mind/beliefs in an instant should doing so 'suit her better'. Things like this change in LTR's but thats another story altogether

Also never forget that, just becoz she'll fuck you, even on a regular basis, this does not mean she sees you as anything more than a fuck.

She decided soon after first seeing you as to whether she would ever consider you the appropriate genetic material to be the "father of her child" But you might be fine as a One or three night stand ...

Alas, these BP guys haven't yet learned that women can be extremely ruthless beings who will use them up and throw them out (by cop if necessary) once they've got their way!

And everything changes when they finally notice that girls shit does stink, (depending on what they feed their heads) and the shit they can come up with can truly stink!

I think many of the guys who come to TRP in 'anger mode' are angry they could let her shit slide, and once a guy gets a good whiff of her shit, it can put him off women for a while!

Many men have unresolved shit from previous 'relationships' and the smell is still hanging around as they ust don't know how to understand it so they can accept it.

This is where TRP is priceless. It explains all this and much more. So by 'taking TRP' and 'swallowing it's bitter truth' is the knowledge which finally releases men from the devious machinations women are capable of!

In the 51yrs I've been alive, The Red Pill manosphere has been one of The Most useful and enlightening places for men I've ever come across! The whole philosophy of TRP is useful and effective in one way or another for every man.

Until about 2000, when the PUA scene got started in the US and not long after The Game was published, the development and growth of TRP community has been amazing!

Until this time, there had been little information of this type to be found other than anecdotally from another man,, with "treat 'em mean to keep em keen" being the most RP thing I'd heard until The Red Pill movement happened.

I was in my 20's in the 80's and it was basically the same Game with the same 'rules' BUT the sources of information back then, about about the things we regularly discuss here were non existant.

And the men in my social scene, still BP AF, thought it was "vulgar to kiss and tell" and so rarely, if ever, sat down to discuss and analyze female behavior as has been done now by TRP community.

Back then, you has to figure it out for yourself, trial and error, sink or swim!

You younger guys here have no idea how fortunate you are to have this place and the people in it!

Most of the guys I knew back then could've badly used TRP's knowledge. Most still need it!

All of them are now either divorced or separated from the mother of their kids, with some on wife number 2 or 3!

None are "happy" with their situations, a few have become workaholics, some have become alcoholics, some both! ALL are in fucked up situations they basically stay in "becoz of the kids"! (which is the worst excuse to stay IMO as everyone suffers "as a family" ffs!)

And many of these guys married (first mistake) to stunning women had been 'entitled smokeshows' and never changed! so eventually these guys evolved into beta providers becoz they knew no other ways! It's quite sad really!

Don't be those guys! Don't get married, even if you want to have kids, fine, just don't get married. Just don't.

edit: addded some stuff and fixed a few errors

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (10 children)

Why so much hate on emojis 😭😭😭

[–]textualintercourse 39 points40 points  (6 children)

My text game is exactly opposite OP's and my life up to and including LTR has been a complete killing field.

I read, "Text for logistics only."

In other words, "I'm too fucking stupid to carry on an interesting conversation all the while learning her hot buttons and breaking down her mentally and getting to her mentally to the point that the minute I show up, I'm getting into her business."

Words are a woman's porn. Leading her to action is mine.

[–]Proto_Sigma 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Text game mirrors real game, but in some ways can be more difficult. A lot of guys who come on the sub are hardcore betas who use text messages to shower women with unwanted attention, needless whining, and overall beta nonsense that is ultimately counter productive.

Is there a middle ground, where texts, like all forms of communication, can be used to stimulate interest and build rapport? Yes. You do you. But a lot of people need to wean off it entirely because they can't do it properly, so the 'text only for logistics' saves them from making an ass of them selves and has the next effect of improved sexual success.

Also, emojis are an open display of emotion, and while that's fine in certain circumstances, many of us are going for the more mysterious, stoic persona, which runs completely counter to emojis.

[–]textualintercourse 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Now, I do understand where you are coming from, and I do agree with you to a degree with what you are saying.

But what people need to understand, and you know this, but there is no way that in the beginning of 'getting to know' a woman that she is texting you only. So one better have a very solid connection if one thinks that 'stoic' / 'mystery' is going to keep her interested when her boobs are flashing all over snapchat.

I do stand by this that 50 Shades of Grey went huge, but it had nothing to do with the movie, a woman's porn is reading, and if used correctly, texts are solid gold to get her in the mood.

There are studies showing, that if you are able to get in her head via text, if you follow up correctly, the rapport built is as if you've already been on two dates. So for the typical slut that will bang on the first date, you are well past guaranteed. If you happen to, by some shock of the imagination, be able to run into a more 'pure' girl, you've already been past the 2nd date as well and a bang is very real as well.

But at the end of the day, it does all depend on what the goal is. Mine is the pave the way to get in her pants the quickest way possible, but that's just me.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i agree bro! keep killin it

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 0 points1 point  (2 children)

The more one relies on non verbal. Communication, the larger problem texting becomes.

[–]textualintercourse 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If textings a problem, it's been the greatest problem for me to have then.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some are. Regardless, most do it because they fear irl. Interaction

[–]wasabichilifireworks 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've found emojis to be kind of helpful at building rapport, actually. They just need to be used properly. Text her eggplant water donut and stuff when you feel like messing around. They love it.

[–]sd4c 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because MACHETE DON'T TEXT

Seriously though, can you imagine Conan, or for that matter Genghis Khan, curled up with a phone trading smileys with a FWB crush?

[–][deleted] 66 points67 points  (4 children)

Half of this shit is needy as fuck. Sorry, but to think about when to respond to a girls text is not alpha at all. What about actually being so busy with your life that you simply do not have time responding to her? What about having so much abundance in your life that you don't have to masturbate? What about being so confident and OK with yourself that you're not afraid of talking about your emotions?

Sorry, but half of this stuff is not alpha at all. Sooner or later a girl will smell your beta frame you're coming from.

[–]elbeum 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Not everyone can be alpha from the get go, like you... This post in my mind is a fake it till you make it.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

How about being so confident and ok with myself that I do rub one off sometimes

Checkmate

[–]lemming1607 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Fake it til you make it. This sub isnt for natural alphas

[–]sd4c 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We're all natural alphas. Feminism has neutered us, this is re-learning how to be 10 years old and ZFG again.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (3 children)

"It's her responsibility to protect herself from unwanted physical affection, not yours to guess how much affection she is comfortable with. Her restricting your access is funny, always. Acting butt-hurt about being rejected is tremendously unattractive."

Push the envelope. I forget this a lot. I find myself waiting for "cues" that she's open to advances. Fuck her cues. Make her shut you down. If she's into you, she won't. If she's not into you, why are you wasting you time?

"Regularly temporarily withdraw from initiating any physical affection. Find that you're touching her first a lot? Withdraw for 15 minutes to an hour. Don't refuse her touch, just abstain from initiating it. She may not notice this consciously but subconsciously it can trigger a slightly oxytocin deficiency that will clue her into how much she needs you."

This is a surefire way to figure out if another guy is on the scene. She won't associate that deficiency with you if she's getting it from somewhere else and she will actively seek it out. This is when she starts to make less time for you or, if you live together, starts finding excuses to go out and stay out more and more. I know that's not the context OP was applying it to, but watch how a girl behaves when she starts to drift away if you slack a bit (or she finds a bigger fish in the pond, it can happen no matter how on point you are).

I disagree heavily with OP's last point. Don't buy a $20 backpack, throw some slim jim's in it and take of into a national park. If you want to go hiking or camping develop an interest and make it a hobby. You'll get yourself hurt or killed if you do this shit haphazardly, so do it right. You don't have to spend much, a tarp, an ALICE pack and frame, rope and some basic tools won't run you more than a couple hundred bucks, but you should invest some serious hours into fire-starting (and fire-stopping, assholes), camp cooking and knot-tying before you set out to do your thing. That doesn't make you a child, it makes you a man who plans before he acts.

[–]Gainznsuch 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Upvote for fire-stopping. Not cuz it's funny, cuz it's important.

[–]sd4c 2 points3 points  (0 children)

1) Make sure someone knows where you're going and when you're expected back

2) A knife is the king of tools because it can make other tools

3) Make sure someone knows where you're going and when you're expected back

[–]animationphilosopher 152 points153 points  (43 children)

I'm sure others will get value from these tips but I really don't understand the concept of alpha that so many people have here. It seems like lots of people think being really attractive to girls means your an alpha, regardless of whether your actions are genuine expressions of your own independent desire or just fakery designed to make women wet.

If you don't want to discuss your emotions or watch porn, then great. Don't do it. But if you're restricting your activities simply because it will make you more appealing to women, then you're just a beta in alpha clothing.

If you fake it then you will never make it. The best you can hope for is to fake it till you fool her. But you will never fool yourself. The inner beta always knows.

TL:DR - Do the shit you want to do. Stop thinking about how a girl will perceive it. That's Alpha

[–]morexel 68 points69 points  (7 children)

Cutting out watching porn and discussing your emotions with women is solid advice that everyone knows. Half of us have lost a girl by getting too deep.

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    [–]oZeplikeo 4 points5 points  (4 children)

    Women are not attracted to weakness. If you talk about your emotions it shows a sign that you are not stoic enough. She is looking for a rock to lean on, naturally.

    [–]pisspoordecisions 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    You can discuss feelings and be real with a girl without revealing insecurities. I get complements on my confidence from them all the time. I don't follow a lot of these texting rules either - it's a load of crap that requires you to think too much. If you want to respond, respond. Sometimes being prompt can work to your advantage...maybe she's bored. Whip out that snapchat son, get some nudes sent your way.

    Granted, I fucking hate texting as it is. Don't use cringey emojis, don't overuse lol and hahah, don't always immediately respond, don't be constantly sending novels, is probably a better way of putting it. These rules don't need to be followed to a T. You can break them (except the emoji thing. There's only about 8-10 that are acceptable in any way. The cringey ones make you look weird.)

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      [–]adam_varg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Of course you, i mean if she is any good to have around.

      But you cant vomit your insecurites, doubts and negative thoughts of yours on her. That shit is gonna make her pussy to sahara.

      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      TL:DR - Do the shit you want to do. Stop thinking about how a girl will perceive it. That's Alpha

      Thats mostly true. He made a point when he brought up the fat guy.

      [–]godfatherchimp 20 points21 points  (2 children)

      Telling guys "just be yourself" is not helpful advice at all. It's worthless bluepill advice. If the shit you want to do is beta, then it most certainly is not alpha. If you're going to attempt to redefine "alpha", at least have a logically consistent definition.

      [–]animationphilosopher -1 points0 points  (1 child)

      Telling guys "just be yourself" is not helpful advice at all

      Agreed. But no one here gave that advice. You're arguing against a ghost

      [–]godfatherchimp 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      "Do the shit you want to do" and "just be yourself" are only superficially different.

      [–]underdestruction 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      On a lot of levels, you're right, unfortunately some of these guys are complete wastes of space and need to figure out who they want to be, become that person and then they can follow your advice.

      Mostly though, OP sounds like he's a try hard loser who is still figuring his shit out, no emojis... alright grandpa. No laughing via text? That's stupid too. No jerking off? Holy crap, the fucking loons over at nofap think you get superpowers if you dont jerk off. You don't, I tried it, its stupid as fuck. You want to be a stoic badass in a leather jacket and get girls you better look like the movie star you're trying to emulate because real hot chicks don't fuck that guy.

      [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 6 points7 points  (4 children)

      Let me explain to you the concept of Alpha. After years of watching Simulacra masculinity: James Bond, Hulk Hogan the Sopranos, Breaking Bad and any other assertive male on television, those tropes coalesced into a disjointed exaggeration of masculinity, in the minds of our man boys.

      Our man boys also watch a lot of porn, so porn sluts became an odd aspirational prize for them, that allegedly can be obtained via Alpha.

      In conclusion you are going to find a lot of miscalibrated bullshit here as well as hoards of boys too stupid to understand why imitating the Virtual Hulk Hogan is the definition of Blue Pill.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Sopranos

      This guy is still thinking about the post I made oh lordy

      LOL

      ->inb4 dont flatter yourself

      [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil -1 points0 points  (1 child)

      I'm confident you got nothing from the discussion.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      my new role model is gaylubeoil, because he is real, therefore making it all better

      bluepill fantasies

      [–]G_Petronius points points [recovered]

      but I really don't understand the concept of alpha that so many people have here

      Then lurk more. We have a convenient sidebar.

      regardless of whether your actions are genuine expressions of your own independent desire

      What most people depict as "their independent desire" is just the weak and effeminate nature of their hindbrain pushing them to complacency.

      If you don't want to discuss your emotions or watch porn, then great. Don't do it. But if you're restricting your activities simply because it will make you more appealing to women, then you're just a beta in alpha clothing.

      Hurr durr improving yourself means you're beta, when have we ever heard that before. If you took an obese man you'd certain find that his 'independent desire' is to eat another double burger and wash it down with a liter of soda, and certainly not to get his fat ass on a treadmill. If you forced him against his pleas and protestations to ditch the junk food and work out 5x a week, at the end of the process he'd thank you on his knees with tears in his eyes, despite you having dragged him kicking and screaming all the way.

      Humans are not born ready for freedom. Ancient societies didn't give men true responsibility until they were past thirty, and all the while mentored and observed them to make sure they turned out fine.

      [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Ancient societies didn't give men true responsibility until they were past thirty, and all the while mentored and observed them to make sure they turned out fine.

      This should be emphasized in a post of it's own. If everyone's lifespan ended at 30 for the most part, you can imagine most people did crazy shit until that age. If you're a leader privileged to live with the society's best foods and medicine men, living past the average lifespan, and charged with keeping the shit show together - I would definitely do exactly as they did. I would not let your crazy ass take reigns of the society's most precious resources (land, agriculture, fertile women, weapons, slaves) unless I knew you wouldn't burn it all to the fucking ground for fun.

      [–]animationphilosopher 0 points1 point  (13 children)

      How fucking condescending. Don't tell me to lurk more or try to make yourself sound clever by purposely misinterpreting what I wrote. If I wanted to advise men to give in to the weak and effeminate nature of their hindbrain pushing them to complacency, then I would have written that.

      You're just trolling shit with comments like 'Hurr Durr' and using my words as a strawman to boost your own ego. Easier to argue when you don't make an effort to understand.

      Going from the denial of 'my computer games love me, i don't need girls' to the sincerity of 'ok, i do need girls, so i'm change myself so they like me more' is an improvement but only slight. There is less denial, more acknowledgement of where you are. But that is just a stage along the journey to alpha. It's not the destination.

      Keep growing, keep learning. Don't stop when you're getting laid. Improve until you reach that inner satisfaction of intrinsic motivation. Do not settle for women being satisfied with your personality. Keep improving until you are satisfied.

      None of the stuff OP mentioned is a bad idea. In fact it's useful to experiment with different behaviours to see what gels. If it makes you uncomfortable, ask yourself why and scrutinise your deepest beliefs until you free yourself from your beta conditioning. But, faked behaviour cannot be alpha. You may have come far but you still have far to come.

      [–]TrueFacets 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Dude, G_Petronius is right, it is how it works, talking about your emotions will have negative effects on her attraction towards you. I don't like it either, its just how it is, you are her leader, she is NOT your mother!

      And porn will negatively affect you sooner or later. Either through messed up dopamine levels or sexual performance.

      Watching porn with a plate while fucking can be fun, I guess. But still, if there are men in the clip, you show her other men fucking women which will not benefit you in any way. Especially if the guy in the vid is ripped and hung.

      Women, in theory, want the single best men on the planet (best genes for reproduction). Since "best man on planet" is a theoretical thing, a man needs to convey to a women that he is the best option for her at the time. If you start to pussy out, she will lose respect for you.

      [–]G_Petronius points points [recovered]

      How fucking condescending. Don't tell me to lurk more

      You admit to not understanding how an elementary concept is used around here, then you follow it up with bad advice, and act offended when you are corrected and pointed to instructional resources. I'd say you're more interested in protecting your ego than learning; which is your prerogative, but doesn't shield you from having your mistakes publicly corrected before they can mislead readers.

      But that is just a stage along the journey to alpha. It's not the destination.

      No shit, that's the premise of this entire post, OP says as much in the very first sentence.

      Do not settle for women being satisfied with your personality.

      Pleasing women is not the goal at any stage of the process, that's your misunderstanding. The goal is having the sex life one wants, the intermediate goal to achieve that is attraction, and the tools are the ones we present here, which include the old adage of "fake it 'till you make it".

      [–]TrueFacets 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      You are so right! I can't understand why that guy is being upvoted so much...

      [–]jackmack786 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      You know this sub has gone to shit when this man has negative comment score and that other moany bitch is upvoted.

      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      But if you're restricting your activities simply because it will make you more appealing to women, then you're just a beta in alpha clothing.

      Did your balls just drop? Everything you do is biologically geared to procreate, because your biology doesn't give a shit what lies you tell yourself.

      [–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

      alot of the endorsed fags do that strawman shit. we need new guys in the leadership positions

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      So I can read you calling people fags? No thanks.

      [–]PM_ME_UR_TECHNO_GRRL -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

      You say not being yourself is not alpha, then you say that getting to alpha is a journey, but you don't understand people's fascination with alpha. What is the point of your comments?

      [–]decadentwesternperv 8 points9 points  (3 children)

      So, "be yourself." GTFO with that

      [–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      no that actually works great if you're not a clingy bitch haha

      [–]jackmack786 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      See that's the thing. A lot of the people who need this sub (myself included) were raised to be clingy betas.

      So being yourself is to accept you're learned beta behaviours. Yes that is very self confident to not care what others think, but your results will be shit due to the wrong behaviours we were taught.

      [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      my dad is a textbook sigma / lambda and my mom is a textbook alpha so I have picked up a mixture of both of those I think (more sigma)

      [–]beta_no_mo 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Exactly.

      The "don't say haha or lol or use emojis" advice I keep seeing here is nonsense. You're not a robot. HAVE FUN! These women want to have fun too.

      Stop taking yourselves so seriously. Jesus.

      [–]Hammerhead9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      i agree, the dude who wrote this definitely needed to explain this one if he was going to put it

      [–]Poofysmoof 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      When do our actions become us? Who says you are who you are? This question has been answered multiple times. The rational male speaks clearly about this. It is one of the cornerstones of TRP, it took 12 years of research. Use it if you want to understand.

      [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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      [–]sd4c 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yep, because you're implicitly telling yourself you can't get anything better than your hand today/tonight. Becomes self-fulfilling prophecy

      [–]TunedtoPerfection 5 points6 points  (3 children)

      Some of this won't work for an LTR past 3 months. Great advice if you are just looking for some plates, ONS, and 1-2 month relationships. When in doubt, be unpredictable, do the complete opposite of whatever your mind is telling you to do.

      Remember past 3 months your gonna start getting more pressure then it's usually worth about being "exclusive". Obviously being exclusive is a very bad idea after just 3 months. But you should have some sort of "inner circle" of women that you are vetting even harder if you are interested in an exclusive relationship down the line. If not just so they feel a bit more special than the cute 19yr blondie down the street with the nice rack.

      I've always found LTR game to more shit testing her. You do this by giving her just enough rope to hang herself with and see what she does. This is where your are going to force out the red flags she is trying to hide from you.

      [–]RPStone 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      I've always found LTR game to more shit testing her. You do this by giving her just enough rope to hang herself with and see what she does. This is where your are going to force out the red flags she is trying to hide from you.

      Can you elaborate on this more? I'm just passing the 3 month mark.

      [–]TunedtoPerfection 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      How about a recent example from a week ago.

      A little background, I use to drink heavily, blackout drunk status. So a major red flag and deal breaker for me is a woman who drinks heavily. I find most women who drink heavy use it as an excuse to basically shit test the world by justifying acting like a complete bitch. I don't have time to deal with that nor do I want to so first sign of that shit and it's next-o-rama!

      Now I always lead in this aspect when on a date. I never make the situation or experience about the alcohol. It's just a fun time with maybe a drink or 2. Well when a plate gets to the point of asking for a more exclusive relationship I will plan a night where I don't lead. I sort pretend to drink more then normal, usually I attend a party with the plate in question.

      Basically I put her in an environment where there are 1) lots of booze and drinking (have friends who like to take shots, etc.) 2) a "good" reason for me to kinda be floating around without her by my side constantly. 3) a "good" reason to get a little more tipsy then normal. Then just let the night unfold, have a good time maybe act a bit drunk, see what she does. If at the first hint of you not leading the situation she turns into Amy Winehouse she finding her own Uber home. Also if she doesn't get smashed, but tries to hide how drunk she is that's a flag to me. I always talk with my buddies to see how much she actually drank and how she was acting when taking the shots. The biggest thing is this can't be an obvious test

      You want to set her up in an environment where she has the ability to fuck up big time and the only thing stopping is her morality. Give her just enough freedom to make a bad choice. Make her believe she can get away with it and she if she tries to.

      [–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      8 years in, and the only difference is this becomes natural, and not rehearsed

      [–]Bigjohnthug 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Occasionally be unexpectedly thoughtful. Give her a cupcake with your names on it. Pick her a flower. Tiny expressions like this, devoid of any verbal affection and followed immediately by a return to the relatively aloof and stoic frame, can pierce a woman's heart with an emotional snag that sparks a deeper kind of attraction and love.

      This is gold is one of the best pieces of relationship advice I could give... pity you beat me to it.

      Be in charge of goodbyes. Initiate departures most of the time. If she says she should probably get going, immediately comply with a smile. Always appear comfortable leaving.

      This is also gold is as above, pity you beat me to it.

      Experiment with abstaining from masturbation. Shoot for one week and observe the cognitive and hormonal effects. Everyone is different but many people find that abstaining dramatically increases social confidence and energy. This has been my experience. YMMV.

      Yeah, this is one of the- if not the- most variable things in TRP. I become a monk with no sexual desire after a month of no-fap, which is actually a slight improvement over the first four weeks because at least I can focus on something without popping a boner because my jeans feel so good. For me busting a nut every 2-3 days is optimal because if I have a girl over for multiple days in a row I tend to binge and end up with a sore dick and a foggy brain. I think there is only so much ejaculation that can occur before you feel like a robot and/or become anxious, this amount seems to vary guy-to-guy.

      Don't use smiley faces, exclamation marks, or laughing ("haha," "lol).

      I am counter to this advice. I'm not the best at texting but I've definitely noticed better results peppering my messages with the occasional smiley and especially "lol" because otherwise I seem intimidating. At least that's my theory as to why I get better results doing this. I think it's the same as in real life: If you look very masculine, a smile will be your best default facial expression because otherwise you can look scary. If don't look very masculine, then a straight face is the best because you won't be assumed to be alpha just by existing.

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      With regard to frequency of ejaculation, it definitely varies guy to guy. The last girlfriend I had (over 3 years ago now) I had been doing kegels and was in a physical peak I'd been working up to since 2007 before I met her and she was at her physical and sexual peak as well, so between those factors she almost had to repeat a semester of grad school because we lost so much time in the sack and I still had to rub one out once or twice a day just as an act of mercy.

      Sidenote: Do kegels. Get off without ejaculating and ejaculate more than once during sex. You're welcome.

      [–]Nyrxmajor 20 points21 points  (20 children)

      This is bullshit advice for LTRs see what 24-48 hour radio silence does and you'll get the are you cheating on me talk. They can see through you faking it and this will not increase your attractiveness. Don't use smiley faces? lol this is akin to broscience in lifting just have a frame and pull her into it don't become a beta bucks

      [–]Bigjohnthug 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      This is bullshit advice for LTRs see what 24-48 hour radio silence does and you'll get the are you cheating on me talk.

      Not in my experience. I don't believe it's healthy to regularly do this, but sometimes if your life is busy you'll just not remember to reply for a day or three. Just explain that to her simply: "Sorry, I was really busy these last few days." Don't get defensive of justify it but if this causes an argument that's a real problem. It shouldn't in an understanding relationship.

      When you talk to her again if she's accusing you of cheating that's a possible sign of guilt on her part, I'd be worried about that.

      [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 14 points15 points  (11 children)

      This is bullshit advice for LTRs see what 24-48 hour radio silence does and you'll get the are you cheating on me talk.

      This is a talk that you don't have.

      You are talking like a man who is whipped.

      [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (9 children)

      happy wife, happy life right?

      [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 14 points15 points  (2 children)

      I can't believe people will buy that shit just because it rhymes.

      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Simcon Lancaster has talked about it in his book. Put things in 3s or makenthem. Rhyme, and people believe them

      [–]GoingTheHardWay 3 points4 points  (5 children)

      This thread has been an overwhelming example of how terrible and worthless the non contributor comments have been lately.

      There's been a large influx (which is great) of opinionated blue / purple pillers who feel entitled to share their opinions on things that they've been doing their whole life with no real success (which is not great).

      The people in this thread talking sense are being downvoted into the negatives, while people pushing the very thing you describe are being upvoted. I'm not sure how to combat the threads being so washed out, the amount of people who are "Switched on" are rapidly being outnumbered by newbies and people in LTR's looking to hear themselves speak - and have their own comforting biases reassured by others.

      [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Mods clear stuff reported, they don't have time to read EVERYTHING, so you bring it to their attention.

      Beyond that, best advice I can give to up the signal to noise ratio would be to start applying things, and adding some writing in here.

      Calling your shit 'not worthy' ain't gonna cut it. Learning to articulate lessons with the written word is a good skill, and most people need to work on it.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      A lot of that downvoting is likely still external traffic being driven here via the hit-piece put out a few days ago. Don't ask, it's not worth talking about, but it's brought a lot of participation in that has no desire or intent to engage in self-improvement or even understanding the community. You see stupid shit, downvote, report and move on.

      [–]Fizzdar[S] -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

      I've noticed this on most of my recent posts.

      I think TRP on reddit is going the way of the dodo.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      If it survived the "Subreddit-of-the-Month" mess, it'll survive this. The dipshits either improve or leave, TRP is incredibly efficient at self-selection. The culture and material filter out those who don't belong and any stragglers get weeded out by the mods, even if it takes a bit.

      [–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      na, it's just it's grown by 30-40k members in the past year or so, causing the signal to noise ratio go up

      And the message again becomes "Read the fucking sidebar" has to be said often to the noobs, who after being Told, at least then parrot on something worthwhile, when they tell another noob to 'read the sidebar duh!' lol

      Good post OP, solid basic information quite well presented,

      But I don't I agree that these are 'alpha' traits as much as they describe what is "non BluePill behavior" or non BP traits which are basic RP traits, that imo can be summed up as the behavior of a genuinely self confident person.

      While self confidence is a trait of alpha males, not all 'self confident' males are (or wish to be) 'alpha males'

      IMHO striving to "be alpha" is a silly mission, instead you should be striving to lead a quality life that strengthens one's self esteem via hard work and just doing it! (RP ideology)

      [–]Nyrxmajor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      I am talking about an LTR buddy not a plate where she can get nexted at a moment's notice. Shit is not necessary what exactly are you trying to accomplish there's other ways to dread your girl without becoming single real quick. Flirt with other women in her presence and such

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      If you're in a relationship where you split bills, then yeah.. you get the talk. You shouldn't be splitting the fucking bills.

      [–]Fizzdar[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

      Proper LTR game is keeping your partner on their toes as being too comfortable leads to complacency.

      Dread game is necessary.

      When the cheating accusations come, you don't deny or accept them; that is playing by her rules. The only logical answer is to hold frame and not let your LTR stir drama in your relationship or life. 9 times out of 10 she'll hamster a way to diffuse the situation in her mind, otherwise it's time to rank up a plate.

      [–]Nyrxmajor 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      It may be necessary if you feel it slipping away and you have reason to maintain it. I agree an LTR should be drama free but don't stir the pot yourself unnecessarily this can backfire and push them away or give them a reason to do the same to you.

      [–]Fizzdar[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      A woman's attraction to her partner is constantly degrading in any relationship. Women always look for someone more alpha, more masculine, more strong to carry their offspring.

      The minute you allow her to become comfortable in her relationship with you, she becomes complacent and wants to ride the CC

      [–]Nyrxmajor 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      It degrades if you are a fake pretending to be an alpha who then falls back into his old ways and are not the person she thought you to be but if you are someone of status and value then you will need to show some comfort or else it goes cold. Obviously this is not a sub for LTRs so let me not even waste time on this topic.

      [–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Dread game is necessary.

      I think dread is 'desperation game', best never used

      If you have to use 'dread game' to get her to respond, you're flogging a dead horse IMO it's time to move on

      abundance is the answer bro, never dread!

      [–]Nerdinater 34 points35 points  (8 children)

      Have.... have you ever been in a relationship before? Serious question.

      [–]choojack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I was thinking the same thing lol

      [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

      Are you saying success with women is defined by the number(s) of relationships a man has?

      [–]Fastjur 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      Not by the number of, but rather any at all

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Downvotes on this sub are hilarious. The majority of you came here because you're idiots with women. You think your opinions matter? Idiots.

      I've had relationships, and I've had flings. I saw no difference in the amount of stupid dumbass shit you put up with as a guy. It's why I can't understand the efficacy of the question. Most of you here are under the premise that how versed you are in sexual dynamics is how lost your testicles are in her purse. You fucking morons.

      [–]smartengineer93 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      I agree with most of this.
      1) Rag doll. I, personally, don't want her to be a rag doll in bed. Being sapiosexual I'm not a fan of ONS or the like but prefer her to crave me. Your comment about stop touching her is on point - I'll grab boob when I want but then I suddenly stop one day and we go to sleep without so much as feeling her leg I'm almost always getting a wake up BJ. If she isn't actively initiating sex but rather just bends over I lose interest.

      2) Just go to H&M or whatever. No. If you are squatting like a mofo your legs better not fit in H&M jeans. Go to Old Navy at minimum and buy their stretchy jeans. Comfortable, stylish, and shows definition like your favorite sweats. If you have the money go to an actual tailor.

      [–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Being sapiosexual

      wow! the time has come where defining one's sexuality is a defining feature of their reality!

      fark

      [–]XC_runner17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Is it just me, or has this post been recycled from a while back?

      [–]GoingTheHardWay 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Obligatory: Lift 3x week, keep a top-tier haircut, wear good clothes (if you have no idea where to start, just go to H&M and Urban Outfitters).

      Lifting 3 times a week was insufficient for me (SL5x5). I'm in my early 30's and had to bump it up to 5 times a week using a generic Reddit PPL program (I skip day 6 leg day in favor of hiking and other hobbies). My traps, chest and biceps got noticeably larger in the first 2 months and I actually fill out my shirts now.

      Exceptional results require exceptional effort. Wake up 1.5 hours earlier and hit the gym before work. You WILL NOT regret it.

      Getting a good haircut is the difference between looking clean, and feeling like a million dollars. Find a good barber. You want to look like a boy? Get your mom or some other woman to cut your hair. Want to look like a god damn man? Get a man to cut your hair.

      [–]SilverslawPOG 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Text message portion... OK boys river city for 2 weeks leggo!

      [–]suske127 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      These are all fantastic tips, most of which I had already known/figured out on my own, and I totally agree. I use most of these, most of the time, in my LTR, and she still treats me like a king after 3 years or so. Most gals just want somebody to follow.

      Thanks for posting, hopefully lots of guys take these tips to heart

      [–]The_Lightskin_Wonder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      If your going to be witty or anything but straightforward....use emojis.

      If you're going to read anything in TRP use common sense. Apply the techniques don't imitate it. EVERYONE should be able to get the general idea.

      Become familiar with your current SMV. Its a game of give and take. The objective is to take more than you give, and get away with it. You get away with it by acting like you deserve it, and you don't earn anything you only take. Give the guy a break its solid and simple advice that can easily change the game. And obviously this isn't for LTR's because most you men beta maxed your relationship prior to red pill. An RP. Male can still perform these tricks even in an LTR.

      [–]swordshab 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Is this really all worth it just for some pussy

      [–]ilovewesties 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      lol at H&M. I'd be an angry red piller too wanting to crack human souls if I had to wear H&M.

      [–]Radinax 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Great post! Its sad to see so many comments calling you misogynist when if you know about how women's mind work it makes perfect sense in theory and practice. As I say to everyone that comes here, take what you think works and throw away the rest, there is a lot of important tips in this post that I wish I've read 15 years ago that I had to learn the hard way.

      [–]purplecabbage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I'm currently trying to close on a millennial and all she wants to do is text. Since we are not proximate to each other, it seems like a logical way to communicate since calling is not in the cards due to her beta husband. I'm torn between trying to keep her interested and not communicating too much. I've been good at keeping things light, funny, and/or sexual but she keeps the texts coming. If I stop now and reduce my engagement to the levels in this post, she'd see it as a drastic personality shift. Oh well, guess I'll try the recommendations on the next one.....

      [–]19RomeoQuebec 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      This is all easily done with women who are engaging and uber slutty. They are FUN!!

      The boring ones, fuck my life, the boring ones.

      100% spot on, text less. great general advice.

      [–]BigMike203 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Thanks for the great tips! I really like the last statement you made, if you don't feel like doing something adventurous and fun... then maybe there is a problem. I'm getting really good at being comfortable being uncomfortableand and I'm telling you guys its good for ya and makes life worth living

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Interestingly, a better (more individualized) version of this will come on its own via meditation and exercise. We should be helping men come to a place where they can think for themselves.. using their own understanding and discernment for a given situation.

      On occasion, a smily face might be just fine, but if they're using you're list of alpha traits as a reference, they might miss an opportunity for playful sarcasm that they, as men, might enjoy. So lets be careful with any perceptions of authority.. Certainly one's wife has no authority for that matter.. But if a man is to be truly free, it is fair to say that no one should exist as his authority. Not even his mates on Red Pill.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      to add:

      cold showers. Your day is lost or made in the first hour. A cold shower, meditation, a little physical activity will keep you there.

      [–]laere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Cut out all porn

      People have been saying just to stop watching it. I did and it's a lot easier day after day. I definitely can say it does help with taking women off the pedestal.

      Also reading about how awful the porn industry can be also helps reinforce to never watch it again.

      [–]Newreddawn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      This is good advice, but it's easy for newcomers to mistake it for hard and fast rules. These are guidelines that you should wean yourself off of. Every dude runs game a little different, but you'll find what works for you with experience. When in doubt, follow the guidelines here.

      Nice post.

      [–]Scandinavianredpill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Good tips pal. I agree with it.

      If you want to be a "natural" alpha I suggest you start not giving a fuck about other opinions. Be considered towards others but not respectful, respect is earned. Be competent - alpha is also a function of how competent you are in the enviroment you operate in. If you tend to be a nice guy / introverted just realize that it's most likely a coping mechanism because you don't like potential for conflict. If someone is about to make a bad decision, call them out on it, call them out on their bullshit but in a fair manner.

      It's actually easier to BE in the long run, than to project. Being requires you to make some mental changes and work on your competence, acting requires you to constantly expend energy on a facade.

      [–]Hammerhead9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Don't understand this one "Don't use smiley faces, exclamation marks, or laughing ("haha," "lol)"

      [–]1sezamus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Well... for some girls when you don't use emoticons, you are a weirdo. My ex-gf told me that reading my "logistics only" resposnes was a bit creepy and she thought I might be some kind of a psycho.

      Sorry guys, but let's stay on the ground and don't fill me with bullshit advices of "one fits all" type.

      [–]mmmoreos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Solid except H&M and Urban Outfitters. You're supposed to get chicks not be one.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

      Cut out all porn. It's time to put that away. Fantasizing is for teenagers.

      Sorry, I love porn and it doesn't affect my life negatively in any way.

      [–]caP1taL1sm 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Just watched some porn with one of my plates haha. It absolutely turned us both on, and I got to coach her a bit on giving head.

      Like all dopamine wells, you abuse it and you got a problem, but as long as it's a reward after a long hard days work, and not something you're addicted to, it's NP.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I do too, and I consider myself quite the connoisseur, but I'm only on day 2 and am suddenly keenly aware of how much hold it really has on me because the only thing the back of my mind is concerned with any time I sit still for more than 6 seconds is how much I want to cum on or in something with nice tits. I'm pretty sure that's the desired effect but I'm used to being able to settle it at will and now it's not there anymore. I consider that negatively impacting my life if it's reducing my drive to such an extent.

      [–]Blueeyedtoke -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

      Wow, are you a robot? This post is sad. People actually behave this way to other human beings? You can't discuss your feelings with your woman? What's the point of being with a woman? Just date men. LOL

      [–]morphite65 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I think you're on the wrong sub

      [–]setsuna0 -2 points-1 points  (8 children)

      In a LTR the radio silence for 24 hours can backfire. It did for me. I didn't do it on purpose. But, it started the "you don't appreciate me" talks.

      [–]jokefree 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      Dude. 24 hours isn't really much time. It's just a day

      [–]tubarao312 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      In a day he could have travelled to Europe, fucked 4 latinas, 2 italians and a pornstar and still have time to come back, imagine the possibilities! /s

      [–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 12 points13 points  (1 child)

      But, it started the "you don't appreciate me" talks

      Shit test. Clearly you failed it.

      Next time never set the expectation that you will be in permanent contact.

      [–]setsuna0 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Right. I did. But, it's a lesson. Thank you sir

      [–]Fizzdar[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      It's a shit test. Did you hold frame or break down and try to appease your LTR?

      [–]bradystrong 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Just wondering if it was your situation, how would you hold frame on that? Looking for more tips to that.

      [–]setsuna0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I held frame because it was just a day. It wasn't intentional I was just busy.

      [–]GOATmar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      Title and lingo is cringeworthy and borderline incel ("alpha?" """frame?""" cmon son), but the content is solid.

      Everyone stupid enough to think this shit doens't work need not wonder why they struggle with life and browse this polluted sub regularly.