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"FBI translator married Isis recruiter she was meant to be investigating" (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by meninistMD

She was sent to supposedly investigate an ISIS recruiter, instead she married him, what can I say, it just can't go more deeper than this.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/02/fbi-translator-syria-rapper-isis-islamic-state?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


[–]a1004186 points187 points  (34 children) | Copy Link

She "made a mistake" and later (back in the US once she didn't like the marriage) was sentenced to just two years in a Federal prison.

Nothing surprising. Nothing inspiring.

[–]Reastruth151 points152 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yep. 2 years (as opposed to a minimum 8-10 years for a crime that's even remotely close) and now she's walking around free, and media blurs out her face. Hmmm pussy pass much.

[–]Ganaria_Gente84 points85 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yet another pussy pass example

Lovely.

[–]GoRedBad points points [recovered] | Copy Link

Look at it this way - TRP says (and I agree) that men and women are different, and furthermore AWALT. So how will tougher sentences for women deter them?

[–]antariusz5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't. It just makes them hide their actions better.

[–]zezosk-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

So it basically does nothing for the greater good? TRP is not emotionless, just overly analytic.

[–]antariusz2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Didn't say that at all.

Women are great in middle management because they love enforcing rules on other women (social constraints) as a means of establishing social hierarchy as well as a means of controlling beta males for their benefit . Beta males also tend to be sticklers for "following the rules". They've based/invested their entire life and the lives of their potential children upon "social order"

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

She deserves to hang. Civilians should not be fighting ISIS and there should be no dialogue, only killing.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just rehashes the fact that most women lack a sense of honor or respect for their tribe that men are more likely to have. They're governed by emotions, not logic or reason. This case illustrates it perfectly.

[–]aanarchist2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

she could have given up government secrets to a fucking terrorist, and all she gets is 2 years. a man would have been put to death at firing squad.

[–]tolerantman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The only "mistake" here is the fact her mother didn't have an abortion.

[–]1edwardhwhite89 points90 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

A translator does not investigate

[–]merryhexmas21 points22 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

eh, what's your point? They didn't give her the official title of spy or a corporate-speak title like Specialist of Language Undermining Trust?

[–]ASN5 points points [recovered] | Copy Link

I think the point is "they don't send a translator to do investigations". The headline is suspect from the start.

[–]anon35202 points points [recovered] | Copy Link

We won't get the real story on this until all the documents are unclassified some 20 years later. One way this might shake out is she goes to "jail" for a few years to pay for her crimes, the books say she served her time, but really she was just hiding out in a protection/triple agent preparation program, then she comes out as a triple agent to flee back to the middle east, scooped up and saved by ISIS where she can give her true allegiance to Islamic State, in a few 5 or 10 years she can penetrate more deeply into the the Royal house around Mecca and get inside information on Saudi Royal Family.

Or maybe it's something more sinister, where Islamic State said they would kill her whole family if she didn't defect against the FBI and America. These Muslims aren't playing around, they have over 2 billion members, in every society, many of them are very rich and can cut fat checks.

We can't pass any judgment until we have the facts. One of the most difficult things in the world is to infiltrate ISIS with spies. Their Muslim follower vetting program is second to none.

[–]redrummilf-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah if she goes back she will be "penetrated" alright. By ALL the boyz this time. They will run a train on her until she is no more.

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

she can penetrate more deeply into the the Royal house around Mecca and get inside information on Saudi Royal Family.

We can do that right the fuck now with normal prostitution, familam.

Come on dude, more than 1 way to skin a cat.

[–]Kingern1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He was a recruiter, probably working online, so I doubt she was "sent to Syria" per se, and that doesn't come up in the article. She was probably participating in the investigation of his activity, they'd need an investigator who could translate I'm sure.

[–]quickeddie points points [recovered] | Copy Link

I saw this too. Way post wall, probably alpha widow big time trying to recapture something she failed to lock down years ago. God damn though, Red Pill theory provides insight on this but this is not an example AWALT. Most women aren't like this chick.

[–]uishax65 points66 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

Still, this along with the high rate of sexual advances made by female prison guards to male criminals makes one understand that some women are far more cuckoo and addicted to alphas than others.

[–]Troll_Name61 points62 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

female prison guards for male inmates

This job only exists thanks to bluepill thinking. ANY breach of discipline (read: talking to people, failing to catch them fast enough, letting your guard down for even a moment) can lead to deaths and escapes. This job should be reserved for veterans who need work; they'll do exactly what they need to do and they will take no shit.

Ugly angry muscular dangerous vermin. One gender falls in love with this.

[–]ramaga44 points45 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

I'll go further and say there shouldn't be female cops or firefighters. Life and death situations are the wrong place for society to pretend men and women are equally capable of the same things.

[–]Mail_Order_Lutefisk36 points37 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

One of my buddy's sister's is a fire fighter. She and some other women sued over patronage and got the chance to join. This lady is a serious weightlifter who played college hoops and passed the same tests as the men because she is a badass, but of course only a small percentage of the women who sued could actually qualify. Women who can pass the same tests on equal terms absolutely deserve an equal shot.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Meanwhile the two women at my male dominated job are total fuckups with more job security than anyone in the department and one just got promoted

[–]Cgn3821 points22 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Get out, they clean out good workplaces. Soon they will run it and it will fall apart.

Seen it several times.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

One already married into leadership. The other is on light duty and hopefully she'll quit. I am looking to leave soon, but my new organization that I want to join recently got infected coincidentally upon receiving a ton of federal funding under Obama. The resumes of those hired are secret service agents, swat guys, special forces, veterans, and cross fitter. I'll let you guess which one is the woman. I didn't get hired this round despite having a good resume as well as 2 degrees.

[–]Cgn381 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I honestly feel for you man. Carpe diem.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

A strong woman is an average man at best. I want a man saving me from a fire. One who would never get a pussy pass for ditching me or fucking up.

[–]JefferyDahmmer14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Seriously. If I'm half dead from smoke inhalation, I want to see sweaty muscular forearms and a barrel chest, not bouncing tits. Plus this supposed buff woman still doesn't have the bone or muscular density of even an out of shape man.

[–]NolanHarlow4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She's an extreme outlier. And even as one, she'll likely be injured and unable to perform her duties at a younger age than her equivalently fit male counterparts.

[–]DeadShot9124 points25 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Can't agree more. Real life is not the fucking Hunger Games. A 150lb female with elite combat training is still no match for a pissed off 200lb male hand to hand.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sending the uterus-holder capable of such things is genetic waste and foolish. Not to mention is a sign of mental illness for a woman to desire to engage in violence as a profession.

[–]sickofallofyou5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When i was in jail there was this hottie jail guard with tats always chatting it up with my celly. Dude had a lot of tats too.

[–]AussiePhil8216 points17 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

You'd be surprised how common this is. There was a recent case here in Australia that they were stupid enough to let a female psychologist into a prison and she ended up hooking up with a convicted cop killer then married him when he was released.

[–]NofearNohatred4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why would they release a convicted cop-killer to begin with?

[–]AussiePhil8212 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because this is Australia. Soft justice is the norm here and pretty much all criminals get released regardless of how serious their crimes were, especially if they were young when they were convicted.

I'm this case he stabbed two cops. One died and the other was seriously injured (spent weeks in hospital and almost died) and I think the guy got 15 years.

Hooked up with the slut in prison and now is married with his own kid while the cop's kids are growing up without a dad.

[–]m11_9 points points [recovered] | Copy Link

If not alpha-widow before, imagine her now. She will never get off again in any normal way.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

All women are like that. No on ever said they are all like that to the same degree.

[–]Troll_Name3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

More gone further gone, as the pitfalls of marriage become obvious to an ever-increasing number of young men.

We're already just a few clicks away from having welfare for women come DIRECTLY out of men's paychecks. All she has to do is accuse you and she's got it permanently; the only thing the government has to do is automate the process.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger319 points320 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

This isn't a Red Pill thing. This is an actually crazy woman.

[–]LordThunderbolt95 points96 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Crazy how? I dont even know how many psych eval tests conducted by highly trained proffesionals that she had to go through to rank up to such a high level of clearance in the FBI. Shes not crazy, shes just a woman. She fell in love for the bad boy and gladly betrayed everything she stood for for him. This is AWALT at its finest. French women did it when the Nazis invaded as well.

[–]szoze3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Could you expand on the french women nazis thing?

[–]jupc3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

From 1940-1944 Germany occupied France.

The French women adapted quickly.

In 1942 there were 200,000 Franco-German births, 30% illegitimate.

See the book 1940 - 1945: Erotic Years by historian Patrick Buisson.

[–]caP1taL1sm52 points53 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha you're probably right, but it's funny nonetheless

[–]lets_move_to_voat20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Come on dude, terrorists are hot. Haven't you read 50 Shades of Islam

[–]ntvirtue42 points43 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

No this is the kind of behavior you see in any person when they are not held accountable for their actions......Its just that in the west we don't hold women accountable for hardly anything.

[–]dingman586 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

So is this when you try to recruit us?

[–]GeorgeWHaydukeIV points points [recovered] | Copy Link

How exactly are you being recruited?

[–]Menchstick-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

But the real question is recruited in what.

[–]Kingern3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, the FBI are known for giving out top-secret security clearance to the literally crazy, and there's no historical precedent of western women spreading their legs for invaders.

[–]MuscleMaturity-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yes there is, read some books or something man

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

No, it illustrates the fact that women have less of an inclination to their tribe and put their feelz ahead of everything else. Even their own safety and common sense.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The number of women leaving stable government jobs to marry unstable criminals and live in third world countries is not large enough to state "women have X" as some kind of generality.

If anything, when you look at women as a whole rather than just this one crazy woman and trying to extrapolate from her, it makes more sense to conclude that women are extremely risk-adverse and have a strong inclination to pursue things like low-risk, stable, easy government jobs.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, I agree. Generally, her actions don't align with the average women. The point I was trying to make, was that men have very little understanding of the lengths women will go for alpha cock. Things like loyalty, stability, security and even safety fly out the window the moment the feelz get ramped up.

[–]BargainBinBoyfriend23 points24 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

She got the bad boy tingles.

[–]ktchong9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

She was 35 or 36 when she got the tingles, and you would think the tingle is a young woman thing.

[–]1empatheticapathetic6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lacking quality abundance makes the individual tingle factor more powerful.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Unfortunately her feminized society isn't producing real men anymore, so she has to go find cavemen to satisfy those tingles.

[–]winndixiedirty points points [recovered] | Copy Link

He peobably had a good smile and was confident.

[–]Brennus39017 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Topkek

Reminds me of those 3 female prison guards who got pregnant by the thug they were supposed to control, and ended up being drug mules in and out of the prison

Or how William the Conqueror punched his future wife off her horse and made her hot for him

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is a common issue in prisons. Female prison guards will end up falling for and sleeping with prisoners at much higher rates than male guards sleep with female prisoners. The male guards are also charged with rape a lot of the time when that happens because they hold a "position of power".

[–]Koryphae_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So the system works - you need REAL men guarding prisons.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil25 points26 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

She was translating his Gamete Sperm DNA into Somatic Zygote DNA with her Vagina.

Really don't understand what the problem is here fellas. She is a translator and she translated.

[–]NeoreactionSafe49 points50 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

 

I knew this would show up here soon enough. I read the story yesterday.

 

When a woman is confronted with raw masculine energy her mind just sort of freezes up and all they can think is:

 

  • "I'm turned on and have Tingles, I can't think only feel, I feel I crave the man who is masculine and am unable to resist submitting to him."

 

They say the word "Islam" translates to something like "Submit" (pretty sure, not positive) so the religion forces everyone to submit in some way.

Women desire submission unconsciously.

This is why the empowered female is such a joke... she craves the opposite of what she says she wants and actually is.

The mistake the West has made is in accepting the mythology that women want equality and empowerment.

Islam makes it clear "they understand women".

But here on the Red Pill we get it too, so no endorsement of Islam is being made by me.

 

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Remember when young white women (I'm using this because that's what most guys regardless of race want at least in the usa) went out and dated a thug black guy , or a biker or a gang member bad boy to break social norms? But then in their late 20s and early 30s married mostly Bata whites or asains or black guys with good jobs that are complete pussies?

IMO , rich white girls willrun out and date a "bad boys" guy, for several reasons.

To piss off daddy

They are generally masculine and wont put up with her shit.

They generally had a better drug connection. And princess needs her weed hook-up.

They generally had the whole bad boy complex ingrained into them from their culture

Now enter Muslim men

masculine

treats women like property

takes from women what he wants sexually

Takes complete ownership and control of the relationship

And it pisses her parents and family off

she has a look who I'm dating to shove in her friends faces.

All things women like and she can still get her weed and Cocaine on the side from her friends

I know ~ 15 to 20 chicks that are "good Catholic girls" (i went to a Catholic highschool and I keep a few of them on FB for the sake of looking normal with a decent sized FB friends list) that are dating a Muslim guy or have.

And will in a few short years want to marry a guy that has his shit together and doesn't want to beat her and treat her like complete property, and will "make her parents happy"

When we know it's about making sure she is comfortable. And taken care of for the rest of her life.

Edit: formatting

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There seems to be this red pill fantasy about Muslim men being hyper masculine sex appeal machines. That is not true at all - which is why Islam forces women to submit - because in the ancient times White man and Black Chad were pulling their little sexy hoes.

Therefore they forced them into submission via Islam. Its like mate guarding - its a beta trait. Islam mate guards x1000.

Another thing is, Middle Easterners are basically as attractive as Asians are on the SMV chain. Middle Easterners arent attractive and are lumped in with the Indians. Obviously there are some European looking Middle Eastern guys, but there are also good looking Asian Chads too. Every race has chads but Middle Easterners/Asians/Indians have the least amount in proportion to their race.

I have actually seen more asian Chads than Middle Eastern ones here in America through college and what not. Most Middle Easterners I have seen with hot women were absolutely stacked because their dad bought them a white 2016 BMW and owns 4 gas stations in town (seriously, i have met multiple middle easterners who fall into this exact stereotype - its absurd). The good looking ones just end up looking like those Latino playboys - who from my experience - do well with Latinas but not whites

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can confirm, am Muslim, dated a cute white 18 year old teen from a nice Protestant household in the country.

She wanted me to fuck her in the ass and piss on her.

[–]NeoreactionSafe1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

 

It's all part of the Globalist Tyranny destroying Western Civilization so that they can get the universalist globohomo equalist beta slave world they want.

 

  • If Western Men can regain their freedom then globalism cannot win.

 

...frankly we need to see this "beast" (globalist) government collapse or things will decline to multiracial shit.

 

[–]rigbed20 points21 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Globalists either want us to be wiped out by muslims or convert to Islam. If everyone is islamic you get violent inter fighting among young men while the rich hoard harems of women. Perfect scenario for the elite

[–]NeoreactionSafe19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The Muslims are just there to cause conflict.

It's Colonialism all over again only we call it "Globalism" now.

Divide and Rule.

Create Multiculturalism in order to magnify chaos.

It's the same shit the Founding Fathers were fighting against.

 

You ever heard of Ireland?

The Scottish were imported by the English (as slaves on the plantations) and used to fight the Irish.

Divide and Rule.

 

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The Global Elite are playing around with fire like they can't get burned.

[–]Ganaria_Gente-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol the elite don't need Islam to get their harem

[–]diomedes7778 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They don't want a harem of women, they want limitless access to displaced children that constant conflict and war creates

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Their entire religion is fucking bonkers.

[–]ktchong10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Dr. Jordan Peterson on the "five categories of most desirable male entities used most broadly in female pornography" - i.e., vampire, werewolf, billionaire, surgeon, and pirate.

Soon, terrorist will be added to the categories.

[–]greatslyfer2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I wonder why they love those 5 categories.

Maybe danger and status?

[–]seanymartin26 points27 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

If the Arabs do anything right it's not let women influence how they behave. Or should I say not let women control what's going on socially.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, at least out in public. Behind closed doors theres still a party culture similar to the west.

You'd be surprised by how many women in countries like Saudi Arabia and the UAE have club attire under their burka's.

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

B-but .. they don't have burkas there.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Niqab, Hijab, Chador, take your pick lad

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Niqab.

The one you're thinking of is always always niqab.

[–]goadsaid3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This. Sometimes you come to the right conclusions for the wrong reasons. Their woman's testimony is worth HALF that of a man's. (logical given their dubious relationship with the truth). They don't drive.(logical given their propensity to get distracted by phones, make-up etc.) They don't go out in public unless a male relative of the family is with them because they can't be trusted. (logical because awalt and they cheat).

[–]gistaminute1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why is this down voted? Is it inaccurate?

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a buy of a reach. I'll help.

1) half a mans testimony

True. Reason? None really given. Just because. It was taken as matter of fact back then so no one asked really. Perhaps Evolutionary Psychology

2) can't drive. That's only in Saudi. They can drive most anywhere else. But it's true they did it cuz they might fuck around.

3) go out in public. Well it's because if it's not safe outside they should be escorted. But it has the huuuge benefit that they can't fuck around either.

[–]ktchong11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She pleaded guilty to making false statements involving international terrorism and was sentenced to two years in prison.

i.e., Treason and being an accessory to Islamic terrorism.

According to analysis, the average sentence in Isis-related prosecutions in the US is 13.5 years.

Only two years for treason and being an accessory to terrorism. Got to keep her naturalized US citizenship as well.

[–]wiseprogressivethink11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Reminds me of the female prison guards at men's prisons who you frequently read about getting knocked up by some gang leader and end up doing special favors for him.

I know this makes me horribly retrograde in The Current Year, but women shouldn't be guards at men's prisons, and frankly they shouldn't be embedded in military units with men. You're just asking for trouble by putting women in those kinds of harsh environments where the sex ratio is 10:1 or whatever, and the men they are interacting with are just dripping with testosterone.

[–]badDayAtBerchdsgaden6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I know this makes me horribly retrograde in The Current Year, but women shouldn't be guards at men's prisons

Makes you wonder why they ever think an opposite sex guard at any prison is a good idea

[–]meninistMD[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She can't skip his skype again

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Bitch needs to have the Mozambique Drill run on her.

[–]throw174532 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That was a risky google - not what I was expecting.

Incidentally, that's the way special forces are trained to shoot, at least in my country.

[–]RPDrogan12 points13 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Honestly I'm impressed. His skype game was probably excellent.

[–]jewishsupremacist881 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

i think she was a jewess too.

[–]TheTruthSetsUsFree points points [recovered] | Copy Link

hope so. glad to see the jews receiving what they push on everyone else

[–]jewishsupremacist889 points10 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

trust me bro, as someone who is jewish and has jewdar, the amount of race mixing i see is disgusting. the men are just as bad as the women.

the future goldbergs of this country are going to be a bunch of half asian mutant freaks

[–]wiseprogressivethink7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

...the better to fit in while manipulating their next "project" - Superpower China.

[–]JT917337 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Lol is the 88 in your screen name for heil hitler?

[–]NofearNohatred4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah I thought that was pretty ironic also.

[–]BargainBinBoyfriend5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's got to be some kind of troll/parody account.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm going to go out and fuck a whole bunch of jewish girls just because you said that.

[–]gooblagoobla2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It can't go more deeper indeed.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Two years for what essentially amounts to treason, huh. I almost wish I had a pussy.

[–]NotNormal23 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Poor girl. Too bad the marriage didn't last.

[–]Phixer73 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Female genital mutilation should be her punishment

You lost all the pussy privilege for being a traitor

[–]yy89 points points [recovered] | Copy Link

What if ISIS are just ultimate redpillers and have ultimate frames.

Not saying or condoning what they do, just for discussion.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Considering he's a Islamic fanatic I'd say he had pretty good frame. His heart and soul belongs to his beliefs and that would give you strong as hell frame. Why do you think so many people get converted..

It's not red pill it's the complete opposite, they are about as brainwashed as you could possibly be. Red pill is seeing the world the way it really is.

[–]tolerantman1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Giving women freedom of choice is a mistake.

[–]LOST_TALE0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Should just liberate both sexes (especially men now) and let Darwin come make us nicer.

[–]trpnewguy6660 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The tingles were strong in this one. Disgusting...I thought about posting this when I read it today!

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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