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Red Pill ExampleAWALT, even the person you think breaks that law (self.TheRedPill)

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So I met a girl about a year-and-a-half ago and we had been dating since in an LTR. Having just turned 18, that is a significant portion of my life and the longest relationship I've been in by far.

Although I was always naturally red-pilled, and even frequented this subreddit during the relationship, I thought this specific girl broke the laws of TRP. She was my unicorn. She was, to me, the only pure soul in a world filled with attention-seeking, dick chasing sluts.

Although I told my friends AWALT and advised them to not trust these hoes, I didn't apply those lessons in my own life.

Guess what?.. A week ago I find out she's hanging out with a guy at a coffee shop from a friend. She didn't tell me this. God knows what they were up to. I confront her the next day and she almost immediately breaks down in tears apologizing. She then tries to pin the blame on me, saying 'you don't give me enough attention' 'its not what you think'.. Pretty much anything to try and get her out of the situation she's in. I block her and tell her 'this isn't working anymore' and have ghosted her since.

I shit you not, she made 14 fake accounts on facebook trying to get me to speak to her, and a day hasn't gone by without paragraphs in my inbox.

In the end, AWALT. I am not mad, sad or hurt, because that would be like being mad sad or hurt that the sky is blue and grass is green. Even the girls that at once seem like they're completely different than the rest and make you doubt red pill teachings all end with the same fate. There is no such thing as a unicorn and no girl is immune to the teachings of TRP. Don't be like me and convince yourself otherwise.

NEVER EVER EVER EVER CONVINCE YOURSELF THAT SHE'S DIFFERENT. SHE'S NOT.

EDIT: should've been clearer. They were cuddling up against a corner in the coffee shop. Clear crossing of boundaries.


[–]Rommel0502 356 points357 points  (57 children)

I think a problem some have with accepting AWALT is looking at it as a moral rather than a scientific fact. Getting pissed at a woman for acting on her evolutionary drives is no different than getting pissed at a peacock for mating with the male with the brightest feathers.

Women select mates in the way they do because natural selection has dictated that this is the best way to promote the species. Nothing more, nothing less. This is why sexual strategy is amoral. Its about survival of the fittest, not survival of the best feelings. Looking at it another way, if she didn't behave in this manner, that would actually imply something was wrong with her from a psychological perspective by going against her core drives.

No matter how sweet she seems, no matter what she says, she is still a product of thousands of years of evolution that determines at her core how she will act. The sooner you accept this, the happier you will be.

[–]mrj0ker 65 points66 points  (1 child)

Accept as quick as possible, and terminate just as quickly. I could not accept a girl who is not 100% truthful, there are no second chances and pining "what if" thoughts are a waste of headspace. Either you didn't do enough or it was bound to happen eventually.

Edit: I think a challenge for all men is to carve out your will into yourself -and to some degree a potential mate, despite the thousands of years of evolution.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (4 children)

Looking at it another way, if she didn't behave in this manner, that would actually imply something was wrong with her from a psychological perspective by going against her core drives.

Whoa now let's separate behavior from impulses. While it's good strategy to assume everyone is capable of cheating, this is a strategy. Cheating is not a behavioral inevitably.

[–]CQC3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is important.

AWALT is about the potential to cheat, AWALT. It means it could happen to anyone. The problem with the state of open hypergamy as is that it is legally enforced and culturally encouraged.

[–]Rommel0502 1 point2 points  (2 children)

True, but nothing I have stating in my original post implies that a woman must cheat. In fact, its my contention that if you stay the highest SMV male a woman has access to she will be loyal to you indefinitely.

Not necessarily directed at you, but I really dont know why so many are having trouble with this. Its scary how many don't understand simple market forces, and I really believe this is a core, and perhaps THE core problem, of society.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

True, but nothing I have stating in my original post implies that a woman must cheat. In fact, its my contention that if you stay the highest SMV male a woman has access to she will be loyal to you indefinitely.

This is the foundation of the purple pill, and it's false.

True, but nothing I have stating in my original post implies that a woman must cheat. In fact, its my contention that if you stay the highest SMV male a woman has access to she might be loyal to you indefinitely.

FTFW. And BTW, this also holds SMV as some highly definable constant that isn't under flux, variable etc. Even if you have your act together, something new, different, something they thought they couldn't have, can always challenge that. The biggest mistake on this forum is not realizing that RMV does not correlate with SMV at all. What you propose is impossible because SMV changes with the wind.

It could be your profession, your physique or social standing, it could be your charm or charisma. You don't actually know, she doesn't even know. She could be fetishizing part of you that changes.

Your post is the basis of the purple pill delusion.

[–]Rommel0502 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, my post is based on market based realities.

Generally speaking, people will make decisions that maximize their utility. Ergo, it makes no sense for a woman to risk losing a higher value man by offering herself to a lower value one. Of course, like any market there are likely localized inefficiencies, so we are talking general tendencies here rather than global certainties.

I do agree that SMV, and any value add for that matter, is not monolithic and unchangeable over time. What I do not agree with is that "it changes with the wind." In my experience, the same guys getting laid today are going to be the same guys getting laid six months from now. Ten years from now? Who knows, but SMV is far from the random variable that you are suggesting.

And for the record, the biggest mistake on this forum (and in society in general) is not RMV/SMV correlation, its failure to understand the realities of market forces as it applies to, and from, human behavior.

[–]Hitleresque 47 points48 points  (7 children)

She is still a product of thousands of years of evolution that determines at her core how she will act.

Try hundreds of millions. Sexual selection has been shaping dimorphisms and behaviors since the dawn of sexual reproduction. At this point it's a core tenant of life, and no amount of variation in those traits can undo it.

[–]TheRedStoic 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yup.

Limbic brain screams, dopamine, now!

But as humans we can go, wait wait... And with discipline even override it regularly.

[–]Appleseed12333 29 points30 points  (5 children)

One of the things that makes us human is our ability to suppress our instincts (albeit temporarily) in order to achieve our goals. Expecting other people to merely act as they are an animal and not think logically is having incredibly low standards.

A girl might have the instinct to flirt with other men, but she consciously tries to hide that act and lie about it if confronted.

[–]Cozc 17 points18 points  (1 child)

this. I really hate the "its her nature and evolution" excuse constantly given to women in trp, of all places.

You never hear "Oh that guy was conquering his neighbors land and taking their wives and daughters? Thats alright its just his millions of years of evolution."

If my half trained wiener dog can suppress his instincts for any amount of time it shouldn't be so hard for a human to do so.

[–]Returnofthemack3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah it's important to realize they could do more but they refuse to. The idea that they are unable to is kind of ridiculous seeing as how guys override their basic instincts literally on the daily

[–]Hitleresque 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Of course, I wasn't implying we're creatures of pure instinct, just that those instincts are there and we need to be aware of them so we can act accordingly.

[–]numandina points points [recovered]

Exactly. Some people expect us to act like barnyard animals operating purely on instinct. Civilization was build by those who controlled their desires and rose above them.

[–]clonegreen 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Great point.

That's why maintaining SMV and frame is so vital to a man's success in the dating market.

Maximizing your physical and mental are critical not just for better selection of partners but for your existence as an individual.

[–]MrAnderzon 17 points18 points  (5 children)

That "She's not yours it's just your turn speaks volumes"

[–]ass_boy 15 points16 points  (4 children)

I'm not really a fan of this term. I like to think of it as her turn

[–]MrAnderzon 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I can see why because it makes it sound like your in control, not them

[–]ass_boy 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Yep that's because women aren't in control of me. Sorry if they're in control of you

[–]1sailorJery 3 points4 points  (0 children)

instead it's said because women are the gatekeepers of sex

[–]Philletto 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Downvoted for that on TRP. Hilarious!

[–]aanarchist 27 points28 points  (0 children)

as human beings who are conscious and intelligent we have the power to override natural selection. as we know nature is indiscriminate, it gives no fucks, kind of like a woman. man has the ability to shape his genetic legacy, that means holding himself and his women to a new standard of conduct. you can either choose to be just another dog in the pound, or you can choose to break free of the cage and become something more. you can accept that this is how most people operate, and you can decide to move in a different, better direction. there is something wrong with her from a psychological perspective, in that she's not thinking, she's simply following her programming, which makes her little more than a wild animal. unless you're into bestiality, you shouldn't be fucking around with animals, not until you've trained them into something presentable at least.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Women select mates in the way they do because natural selection has dictated that this is the best way to promote the species

This is false. Evolution by natural selection is very nuanced, and doesn't care about promoting the species. A gene either becomes more or less common in subsequent generations. It comes back to the survival of the gene.

[–]Philletto 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Have to agree, people misintrepret evolution as some intelligent design or warm hugging gaia. Its survival of the fittest. That means that all unsuccessful behaviours have already died out. Evolution is more about not caring about species than it is about protecting them. Women don't select men because it is the best way to promote species, its that women who didn't behave that way also didn't succesully promote the species. Their line died out.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I wish the term evolution was not used because it is conflated with the other meaning (improvement). Evolution by natural selection simply means change in gene frequency over time by natural selection.

Yeah, sorta like how people think men cheating is a fitness indicator, when it is probably largely that a set of genes that promotes infidelity will be widely cast because a guy that tries to fuck everything is more likely to knock multiple women up and pass that cheating gene(s) on.

So, it will become more common over time.

It has nothing necessarily to do with making the human species anything.

For a sub that discusses evolution a lot, most here haven't crack a book on the subject.

[–]Philletto 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did Giraffes grow long necks to eat the leaves on trees? No, but the tall ones got food which the short ones couldn't reach. However popular TV shows pretending to be science will all say the necks grew.

Darwin has been abused by all political and religious sides to support their ideology. I don't claim to know what his original thoughts were. But pop science shows have a heavy design slant.

[–]Psychocist 3 points4 points  (2 children)

something was wrong with her from a psychological perspective by going against her core drives.

I agree with the sentiment of the rest of the post, but I don't see how exerting control over your core desires means there is something psychologically wrong with you.

[–]Rommel0502 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ok. Exert some control over your core desires and dont eat, drink, or have sex for the next month and let me know how that works out for you.

[–]Psychocist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately there is just no way to argue your way out of that statement. It's wrong, at least in the way I read it. Not sure how you went from "exerting control" to complete abstinence. Perhaps I read it wrong completely. There are obviously degrees of control.

[–]plutosheen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Now this comment is what makes trp shine, not like the other alpha brah PUA bullshit we see nowadays.

[–]Merwebb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And thats why we work on ourselves. To be the brightest feathered peacock.

[–]ForgingFakes 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I've said this before:

Being mad at a woman for being a woman is like getting pissed at the tide for coming in and destroying your sandcastle.

[–]segagaga 1 point2 points  (1 child)

But we expect men to restrict or ignore their natural instincts for the good of civilized society, so it is only fair to ask women to do the same too.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Agreed, but it's still rational to have an issue with a culture that condones and encourages that behavior.

[–]Rommel0502 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. IMO, whenever humans start to think they are smarter than evolution/market forces is when we get ourselves into trouble, and that goes for any market. The sad part of this case is that its probably the case that feminism has damaged women far more than men.

[–]ChristianRedpill points points [recovered]

Redpill has much truth, but evolution is pure bunk.

[–]Rommel0502 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Not sure if you realize it, but you just uttered a contradictory statement.

Im a theist as well, but to listen to church dogma without opening your eyes to evidence that is all around you is pure foolishness. (Hint: evolution is not contradictory in any way to theism.)

[–]ChristianRedpill points points [recovered]

Not to be overly blunt, but anyone who believes in evolution is simply an utter moron.

[–]Rommel0502 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, the beauty about the truth is that it doesn't need you to believe it for it to be true. The propensity of some people to be so influenced by the dogma of others to ignore simple data in front of them has never ceased to amaze me. Once you understand the existence of that sheep-minded mentality, you can then see how the Heaven's Gate and suicide bombers of the world actually exist.

I mean - really. You don't believe that the strongest survive and reproduce the most? Really? I almost cannot conceive of a mind weak enough to deny that.

That said, if that is truly your contention, than trust me you are on the wrong site because almost every core tenet here is based on an evolutionary premise. Truly, it would be like being on a street racer site with the claim that you hate fossil fuels.

[–]Rainy_Eyed 4 points5 points  (6 children)

I like how you talk as if women have no reason or intelligence and that they are subject to their primal drives.

I also appreciate how you think men are special in the way that we are the only gender that can stave off our impulses and retain logic.

Neither of these mindsets seems to correlate with reality, there is a middle ground where both men and women give in to sexual desire in times where they perhaps should not give in. Both genders have logic and for the most part keep their reason above primal desires.

It makes no scientifical sense for women to simply not have reason. Intelligence and logical thought process is not sex-linked. This means that the y chromosome does not have alleles that make us intelligence. No, intelligence comes from the chromosomes that both men and women share. The y chromosome is actually the smallest out of all of them, which is why men are more prone to genetic disease and other things such as baldness etc. To think that reason is located on the y chromosome is simply... unreasonable.

[–]StirlingG points points [recovered]

Everyone has the ability to reason. The Red Pill is learning that the ability to reason takes second place to emotion in the vast majority of women. Tingles happen, people cheat. With a slightly larger Amygdala and slightly smaller pre-frontal cortex on average than men, women are more predisposed to this. Tack on the fact that Western Culture creates an environment conducive to positive rewards for bad behavior, and you have the rule of AWALT. (example: Girl cheats, boyfriend dumps, girl's friends take her out for ice cream and 20 betas all try to make her feel better rather than making it clear that she done messed up.)

[–]Rainy_Eyed -1 points0 points  (1 child)

If you always push women into this category of shame then you are never going to suprise yourself.

Humans are not as simple as you think they are. Trying to form a concise understanding of ALL women's brain chemistry is simply out of your leaugue.

I find that if you create extremely stubborn preconceptions about anything in life, you will only ever reinforce these preconceptions.

For example: If a horrible person who happens to be a female treats you in a bad way you will most likely think: "oh classic women" instead of thinking "what a terrible person" as a result this will strenghen your negative emotions and only reinforce your beliefs that ultimately make you an unnattractive person to be around.

[–]Rommel0502 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Take away power, food, or water for just three days and talk to me about how people "reason," and dont act on their "primal drives."

Reproduction may be the most primal drive we have, and like it or not that is going to be governed by our evolution.

[–]Rainy_Eyed -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Right but you are talking about a hypothetical...

Are you really saying that women's normal behavior is equatable to a man's after he has been starved for days?

If you believe that then you are deluded, if that is not the point you are trying to make then you have no expressed yourself clearly

We live in a society where our primal drives are for the most part receded, including the drive of lust/reproduction. we wear clothes, we fuck in private, we are different from monkeys because we have reason... to say that women have uncontrollable urges is very much so comparing them to monkeys, which is evidently illogical.

[–]Rommel0502 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have show a bright light on the problem you hare having. You believe, like most feminists, that 50 years of feminism or perhaps even 2000 years of civilization trumps 10,000+ years of evolution.

Its nice to think that, but it doesn't, and that in fact, is the core of RP thinking. We do a nice civilization dance because it has certain benefits for us, but at our core, we always revert back to our evolutionary drives, especially when it comes to something as primal as reproduction.

As far as your second sentence, I said nothing even remotely implying that so I have no idea how your brain could even reach such a silly implication.

[–]circlhat 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Getting pissed at a woman for acting on her evolutionary drives

You realize this is the pedestal, oh that woman cheated on her man, don't get mad though it's just her evolution.

[–]Rommel0502 0 points1 point  (3 children)

No its not. But being pissed at a woman for acting on them does mean you are still in the anger phase.

Again, this is a metaphysical argument, not a moral one.

[–]circlhat 1 point2 points  (2 children)

If my wife cheated I would be pissed and angry, emotions are part of evolution too, you are really contradicting yourself, you are suppose to have emotions and let them guide you.

I don't even believe in the anger phase as it's misleading , if someone treats you like crap, get angry, stand up for yourself, this is the easy way to gain respect by not letting others walk all over you.

Remember being stoic doesn't mean you don't have emotion

[–]Rommel0502 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

No, you don't "believe" in the anger phase because you are mired in the middle of it.

Get the fuck out of it. I don't have a lot of patience for it as I believe it is the single biggest detractor of what otherwise is a great site.

[–]circlhat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Baseless accusation blue pill , if men have emotions it's angry , oh I cheated on my wife she must be in the anger phase, she shouldn't get mad at my evolution

[–]LEGALIZEMEDICALMETH 0 points1 point  (1 child)

natural selection has dictated that this is the best way to promote the species

This is a myth. Organisms never act for the benefit of the overall species, which is why altruistic behavior in animals is so rare.

[–]Rommel0502 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The truth of your statement depends how far back you pull the lens on a species ...

[–]xx69bootyhunter69xx -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And therefore one's chances of finding a unicorn is essentially of the order of magnitude equal to the chances of finding a human with a pair of wings. You're essentially looking for a girl with so many mutations in her genes you might as well start building your own sex robot.

[–]ctrl_alt_el1te 103 points104 points  (4 children)

Side note: AWALT does not mean that all women are always going to be like 'that' at every moment. It means that all women have 'that' in them and it can come out at any moment.

Much more often than not it's the guy's fault for not holding it down as an alpha, but it can happen for any reason. So expect this and plan accordingly. NEVER lose your edge because as quickly as you may start to think she's the exception, she will find a way to teach you this fundamental truth. And you can't even get mad at her for it because it's all part of the game - all you can do is work on being a better player.

[–]30fretibanezguy 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Can't blame them really; the way they've managed to castrate society there's often no reason AWSNBLT

[–]PSR_J1748-2446ad points points [recovered]

You can all downvote this guy but he's not wrong. If you're angry at women for being women you're only hurting yourself.

A beekeeper doesn't hate and get angry with bees for stinging him when he tries to get to their honey. Instead he recognizes their nature, protects himself accordingly, and learns to appreciate them and what they bring to him from this new position of power.

[–]juliusstreicher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, but, if a bee, somehow, gets inside of his protective cover, and stings him, he will have no qualms about smashing it. There are jillions more!

[–]NeoreactionSafe 30 points31 points  (3 children)

 

Guess what?.. A week ago I find out she's hanging out with a guy at a coffee shop from a friend. She didn't tell me this. God knows what they were up to. I confront her the next day and she almost immediately breaks down in tears apologizing.

 

It's important not to assume anything actually happened beyond them being at a coffee shop.

AWALT means a woman will always have temptation.

AWALT does NOT mean she will always act on temptation.

Circumstances matter a lot. When fear of getting caught is very high she will be more interested in avoiding risk.

She took the risk of flirting and now she paid the price when she was caught.

It's justice I guess...

 

[–]elebrio 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Let's be honest, she probably fucked the dude. People don't respond like that over having coffee w someone of opposite sex. That being said, who cares? She's just another girl. Why would you even want just one? I guess I just don't get this subreddit. I think ya'll should just get the word "cheat" out of your vocabulary. It just perpetuates judeo-christian bullshit. Get enough game that your girl would rather be fucking you (if you're gonna be in a relationship that isn't open).

[–]xXx420VTECxXx 6 points7 points  (0 children)

But that's not what happened here. If she JUST had coffee why did she break down in tears and then started to blame OP?

[–]NeoreactionSafe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well I was specifically getting into that paranoid mindset.

My point was that you should stick to the evidence and not assume anything because you might just be inventing nightmares which need not be invented. (they might actually not be true)

Typically a beta male will first assume a girl is 100% good... then he will begin to suspect and switch to assuming she is 100% bad.

The better way is to assume AWALT which means a woman always has the potential to break her fidelity (and has powerful urges towards doing so) but will only do it when she thinks it will not have consequences.

In our present day with "political correctness" women have no laws to restrict them and men are forced to "cuck out" to woman's bad behavior.

 

[–]brinkleybuzz 21 points22 points  (1 child)

You learned a valuable lesson about abundance mentality. I learned the same thing about 20 years ago when I was your age.

Young, attractive women naturally have an abundance mentality because they are constantly approached by guys. This gives them lots of options, which they constantly explore and evaluate. Know that when you're in a relationship, your girl is likely being pursued by other guys and she isn't shutting them all down because she thrives on the attention and validation. I've been with a number of women and this was the case for every one. Sure, there are levels to this, but AWALT.

In other words, women are the ultimate "players" in the relationship game, always working the angles, never revealing their hand and maximizing their advantages to get what they want, a relationship with the best possible man. 99 out of 100 women couldn't tell you how or why they do this because it's instinct, built into the female hard wiring which drives them to seek the best possible mate. AWALT is a feature not a bug.

The reason men get played in LTRs is because we get complacent. We get soft and stop improving ourselves and our SMV. We get oneitis and stop approaching and flirting with other women. Our girl has lots of other options but we don't have any. This results in the woman getting the balance of power in the relationship, which never ends well.

My advice to you is to spin plates before you get into another long term relationship. Read Rollo's post Plate Theory on the Rational Male blog to understand why this is so important to developing an abundance mentality and learning how to manage women in relationships.

The only way not to get played in the relationship game is to learn how to become a player.

[–]Dragon_Garoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Upvote this. Couldn't agree more. After my last few relationships, I've realized just how cunning and deceptive they all are. AWALT. It's insane... but that's the nature of RP. Enjoy the downfall.

[–]Medical_Faggot 48 points49 points  (3 children)

Seriously man good job. I don't know if I had the willpower right now to immediately ghost someone like that instantly. Any Tips? Are you in abundance mentality? Keeping chicks on the side? Meditate? Or do you just break it down to your personality which allowed you to do that

[–]mrj0ker 41 points42 points  (0 children)

In her mind he was a piece of shit she thought she could manipulate. He should regard her just the same, no obligation in putting her on any pedestual or even recognition if she has relegated him to the gutter

[–]TylersOwn 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Want a best friend and life partner? Get a dog. Abundance mentality without fucking other girls? Go out with your friends, get rejected at bars... scrap that, HAVE FUN getting rejected, treat it as their loss. Meditation without knowing where to start? Eat healthy, lift more and hone an unbreakable frame. Personality? You're Christ incarnate my friend, any spicy mamacita who says or thinks otherwise is either testing that rock-solid frame of yours or can gladly hop on the next bus to Fuckyousville.

Recently went through the same routine with an ex myself, throughout all 172 missed calls (and don't think for a second that it stops once you block her out completely, she'll find a way to contact you, just keep doing as you were and don't let it affect you, they're all crazy in exactly the same way once you ghost - that hamster goes all kinds of ape shit) my mantra remained "you don't owe her shit".

We can talk evolution and grand scheme, but when some poor, newly-initiated schlub is struggling with cutting ties or staying sane during the tie-cutting, it serves to simplify. Just know that once she has you and you've sworn your love and commitment to her as many times as that sneaky little comfort test of hers allows, she'll find herself cozy, comfortable and immediately bored with you because your hers now, and above all else, women are children in that they want what they can't have and neglect, forget and despise what they do have. Out with the old, in with the new. Onto the next cock she goes.

So: have fun, lift more, never aim to be tied down (LTR's are as soul sucking as your dead bedroom buddy warns you) and keep that frame impenetrable.

[–]MelodyMyst 9 points10 points  (0 children)

staying sane during the tie-cutting

This is where your frame is truly tested.

[–]greatslyfer 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I shit you not some guys will read this and still think they found the special unicorn that's different from every other girl.

[–]Goddamnpanda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Let's keep in mind that this is still an 18 year old girl and not a grown women. Not a good example honestly.

[–]sickofallofyou 8 points9 points  (10 children)

My ex: A nice church girl that wanted to settle down and have 6 kids hoped on a coke dealer's dick first time I let her out of my sight, rode it to mexico, did coke with him (i couldn't get her to smoke a joint, and could afford all the coke she wanted), dumped him, his dealers showed up and stole her truck because he spent his drug money, then she hopped on her new landlord's dick to pay rent, bareback, got pregnant, then he locked her on a farm for a bit, abused her and she went crazy. She tried to get back with me after 7 years, from half way across the country. Blew my phone up for 6 months before I accidentally responded. Had to rip her heart out to get rid of her. She probably started cutting after that.

[–]Dragon_Garoo 2 points3 points  (3 children)

That's a movie in the making right there. Red Pill: Revenge of the enlightened. lol.

[–]sickofallofyou 0 points1 point  (2 children)

No kidding. I found redpill the week before I talked to her again. Probably would have beta bitched out had I not. I shudder to think of it.

[–]Dragon_Garoo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's hard to not give in to the feelz. Men are accused of being non-emotional but we are more prone to romanticising and seeing past problematic behaviours than most think. RP is hard to swallow, the lessons harder to implement. One day at a time bro.

[–]XZTALVENARNZEGOMSAYT 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What the fuck. How'd you come to find out about all her escapades?

[–]sickofallofyou 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She told me everything before i ripped her heart out.

[–]iamanenemy 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Whoa. What did you say to her?

[–]sickofallofyou 0 points1 point  (1 child)

"You're the worst thing that ever happened to me."

I could feel her heart break.

[–]iamanenemy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm new and all, but I've read some TRP content (sidebar and posts). Isn't shit like that violation of indifference? I read somewhere that it's better to ghost than to aggro next because in the latter situation, you're showing that she had enough power over you to put you in a negative state. I'm sure this relates to that 'frame' thing I keep seeing pop up.

Your thoughts?

[–]joh2141 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yup and be sure not to become some bitter, boorish loser who's resentful at everything because of it either. It's just natural. Like when you see a fine piece of ass walking by. Honestly who gives a shit right? There's no harm done in looking and women look at guy's asses all the time as well? If you were to live life based on these questions and your mood reflected on that, you WOULD turn bitter.

So take stock and don't fool yourself no matter how infatuated you get with a woman; if she gets joy out of attention (and all women do; it's a "law" my MOTHER told me that if you don't show woman attention, they will die... kind of a sad admission) then chances are she's the same cock hungry slut who chases the tingles. Just like we are the same pigs who can't stop thinking about what we can stick our dicks in. It's just biological. If you WANT to be MORE than just "monkey see monkey do" about this nature, just don't compromise what makes you masculine... because you will forget what it means to be human.

[–]Mr-Ed209 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes AWALT but dude grow up...

Learn from this. It's not popular opinion around these parts but you fucked up. You're also 18 for fucks sakes, getting tied down at that age is stupid for 2 reasons;

  • You miss out on a lot of potential options, not just women but career wise.
  • She's an 18 year old girl, if she's hot every man from your age to 70 wants a go. And people 10 years older than you have more game and money than you can ever have at your age - unless your a pro athlete in which case plow on.

'She was my unicorn. She was, to me, the only pure soul in a world filled with attention-seeking, dick chasing sluts.'

Fucking hell, I get it... AWALT - if you behave weak she will lose interest and go find somebody else. Women are non confrontational by nature and will do it on the sly, rarely leaving until the next option comes along. Have a long hard look at yourself and asses where/when you were weak and alter it for next time.

I say this because i've been there (many times). I know it sucks and it's a difficult hit your ego. But the benefits of 'doing it right' are tenfold. Your behaviour and attitude is the most important factor, you can't let it slip.

[–]Kryptic_Knight 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The real sad thing is that these stories will continue, even if these self proclaimed "red pills" think they've found a unicorn...they never do of course, what made it even worse is that OP frequented TRP, showing that people just peruse without actually implementing any of it.

TRP is a mantra, a bible, a lifestyle, not just cute little gems you can parrot to your friends.

[–]ProfoundSavage 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Solid post.

AWALT is a pure, objective, FACT that all of us need to accept at some point, and then accepting it isn't even enough. we need to continuously stoke this awareness by consistently reading posts just like this to remind us that there ARE NO UNICORNS.

[–]argcisman 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Just remember, only blaming AWALT when a girl cheats on you is just rationalizing that you did nothing wrong on your part. Sure, some girls cheat for the thrill and there is nothing you could've done about it. But more often that not it's the man's fault that she cheated. Maybe you went too much alpha and didn't show her enough comfort which is necessary to some extent for a healthy LTR. Or maybe you went too beta and go too clingy. It's up to each individual to self-reflect over what went wrong in the relationship. I just find it so lazy to just blame AWALT and not analyze what you might have done wrong.

[–]345plates 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point, there's two sides to the coin here. I can imagine a guy doing everything wrong in a relationship, then comes here to TRP after she cheats on him and says "hey guys look, AWALT!"

[–]HS_Did_Nothing_Wrong 14 points15 points  (7 children)

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[–]Trainzkid 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I think maybe the point that made it seem suspicious was that she never said anything about it, and then when he questioned it, it confirmed his suspicion because she acted sorry and was obviously freaking out and trying to get out of the situation

[–]boxing_with_shadows 32 points33 points  (1 child)

If she broke down crying and has sent 14 paragraphs to him I think it's safe to assume she was doing something that OP wouldn't have approved of.

[–]HS_Did_Nothing_Wrong 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

She immediately cried and said she was not getting enough attention. And she did not mention this friend or this meet up. It stinks like shit, stop giving her the benefit of the doubt.

[–]CAPSLOCK44 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It wasn't that situation that was the problem so much as the way she reacted to him asking her about that situation.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Whether he was a "friend" or more, this obviously counts as a date with another guy. Huge sign of disrespect and announcing major issues in the future. Whether you prefer to ghost her on the spot or downgrade her significantly, you have to punish hard. Had OP let that one slide, it would have been the beginning of a very painful end.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

She was fine until caught and then upset and then blamed you. Of course, if you mentioned this she'd say she was conflicted and sad about it all along but then....blah....blah....blah

Typical. Shit's sad. Imagine being a typical woman.

This is why I will never LTR again.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (8 children)

If you were "naturally red pilled" you'd plate the girl and see other women. i also had my fair share of premature nexting earlier on, to which several members of the community pointed out potential fault. It's an ego thing, you have to remove your sense if ego and pride from the equation. Why should they affect it anyway? Hoes gonna hoe.

[–]Flynn-Lives 25 points26 points  (5 children)

Fuck that man. Pussy isn't worth sacrificing my self-respect

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

why is your self respect at stake. that's the question i am asking. on some level the pussy is still on the pedestal.

[–]Flynn-Lives 23 points24 points  (1 child)

It's not just women. If anyone violated my trust so egregiously I would cut them off. I'm not desperate enough for pussy to keep someone like that around. At least for me, keeping her around would amount to breaking frame. I can see how it might be different for others but it's not congruent with my values.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

hamster hamster hamster. AWALT dude. she's not yours, it's just your turn.

so egregiously

AWALT

someone like that

AWALT

keeping her around would amount to breaking frame

problem

[–]TheGatesOfValhalla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed, your self respect is only being sacrificed if you allow it to be on the line. These younguns have no sense of frame control, even the "naturally" red pilled ones

[–]therpgrad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nexting a woman, over the situation that the original poster mentioned, is a natural and valid response. She's more trouble than she's worth if she's hiding something major, like an affair, during a relationship. Who knows what else she's hiding that could damage your life. It's not worth the risk, in my view, to keep screwing someone either if I have reasons for concern or if that person severely violated my trust.

Attempting to plate a troublesome woman with whom you had a relationship could also introduce an unwanted dynamic. It may additionally introduce a lot of unnecessary headaches. Why should I bother? It's just pussy; there's plenty to be had out there that won't make life difficult.

It's arguably much better to just focus on yourself and plate other women who offer something exciting. After all, why should you go back for the same pussy that you've had several times already? If it's attached to someone who is either going to cause trouble, make me constantly confront an event like cheating, or make my life difficult in potentially unforeseen ways, it's not worth it. It's more rewarding, in my view, to find new women who allow me to have inhibited fun, don't have any associated emotional baggage, and bring an even deeper level of carnal excitement to my life.

[–]TwelvePac 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Abundance Mentality. Why deal with the trouble of plating an LTR, when there are millions of girls around me waiting to be fucked? She's not the last girl on this planet.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You're right that you can do what you want. That said, downgrading a girl from level 3 (GF) to level 2 (FWB) after an unintentional offense (if you decide OP's offense was unintentional) as per /u/HumanSockPuppet's Guide to Managing your Bitches is a move that gives you a faithful FWB working hard to please you for some times.

But yeah again you're right. If it's less trouble for you to get a new girl, then by all means do that.

Still, pay attention to his comment about ego. Are you sure you took that decision out of wanting to follow the least trouble, or did you hard next her out of a bruised ego that she was not faithful to you?

[–]thechaosz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What do you think you did wrong to revert away from the red pill? I was a beta till 30, found this sub and it's infinite knowledge, books, sites etc and never looked back. Though I acknowledge it's all life Long struggle and I'm still sheddin beta friends

They last 7 years have been amazing

[–]2comment 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yup. Humans are gonna human.

We're just DNA machines. All there is are rule benders. Genetic/cultural/environmental/peer group/individual variation sets a different point women will act out their programming but it will never eliminate it. Same with men.

We're at a point in history where the culture works against men [men are automatically assumed the enemy, men actively work against each other for female validation, etc], her peer group is more times than not shitty, tech works against men [tinder and men became even more disposable than ever in general], environment works against men [here I mean modern food consumption triggering early puberty in females and other such variables], that an average dude can only hope that a) she's genetically and b) individually predisposed to be better than the rest. These are all-around shitty odds. And this unlikely angel will still likely cheat and branchswing 100x more than her identical self 300 years back.

Just think of it this way. You're in a tribe that just won a pyrrhic victory but lost a bunch of warriors, and thanks to the surviving widows the male to female ratio was now 1m to 3f. Plus, your gang killed the elderly, lame, annihilated or enslaved all the other men of the other side and now there are around 4 fertile female slaves for every man -- you'd think many men of the tribe would be monogamous or abstain?

And that's what modern women have every day, a couple dozen dicks waved at them in every direction with no real consequences of grabbing the ones she just feels like. So she cheats? She comes out neutral or ahead financially in divorce and same in the social group. And why would she give a shit anyway. The next cock listening to her sob story is around the next corner.

But instead of being dead like the male-favoring alternative, the lower men are just invisible. We know this was the typical history from genetic analysis, around 80% of women had kids, only 40% guys. So it's almost always been this way on some level, just now amplified. The table is tilted, game is rigged. You play on female terms, you lose. The only way out is to be a top 20% guy, also less invested in any relationship than they are and maintaining options. And they'll love you for it, too.

[–]BargainBinBoyfriend 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You got strength, kid. The great majority of guys would have broken down after a week of that.

[–]nsquared5 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Recently, I went to a distant family member's funeral with my aunt, who is twice my age. I am in my late 20s.

Before we reached the funeral, she was pretty normal and was conversing as usual. As soon as she reached there and met any relative, she would cry like babies for 10 20 seconds and then would go back to normal. Thanks to redpill, i could scratch beyond the surface and see the real value of those tears, and the power they would have had in her relationship. She is married to a guy who was pretty alpha before marriage and slowly turned into a complete beta. I can connect the dots now.

I really thought she was an amazing women, which i think she still is, but then AWALT. They cannot overcome their programming to manipulate the shit out of anybody and would continue doing so till it solves their agenda.

[–]beginner_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

AWALT yes.

Still, if you are going to freak out so easily, best not to LTR at all and only do plates. You know it will happen and what you will do so why be exclusive at all if it bothers you so much?

[–]JamesStarkIE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ehh, the formatting came out as a wall of text on my Necro comment, I hope you guys aren't TL/DR obsessed, the lyrics and song are well worth the read and listen!

[–]noct3rn4l 1 point2 points  (0 children)

u/twelvepac Ah, to be young again haha. Ghosting is a solid option but definately not the best for your penis. Hear these wise words of wisdom, downgrade her to a regular plate, make her work for your affections, but keep it moving and keep seeing other girls. Pussy loves a feeding frenzy, and if a chick is that crazy to create 14 fake fb accounts, the frenzy is strong in that one. This isn't the safest course of action, but crazy is fun as hell and you're only 18, enjoy it and bring her out to public locations and be a social butterfly and let her unwittingly be your secret weapon to disarm and declothe as much talent as you can handle.

[–]Spoopsnloops 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I block her

and have ghosted her since

I am not mad, sad or hurt

That's red pill. AWALT is AWALT, but maybe what some people can't get is that it's how you handle it and yourself. You can fall too deeply/obsessively in love and let your heart and soul be crushed, or you can be emotionally stable about it.

[–]LordThunderbolt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't understand what's so hard about the term unicorn. They're called unicorns because they don't fucking exist. That's precisely why we call them that. If she's too good to be true, then guess what Motherfucker? She is too good to be true. You find a unicorn? Good Now slap some sense into yourself and see her for what she really is.

[–]redpect 2 points3 points  (4 children)

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[–]BargainBinBoyfriend 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Not so good when 3 points below you is Jabba The Cunt. Working on improving that, though...

[–]Dragon_Garoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uhhh have you seen the pig girl meme? Seriously, it doesn't matter, there's always another dick willing to stick it in her, no matter how fat, how unnattractive, how abusive, how manipulative. 3 points lower or not, she'll find a reason to branch swing. They always do. They always see other options. Just gotta be the best one.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Not always the case, I've fucked and continue to get dirty messages off a 'happily married'. (Her words) woman (40)

Shes a 6, tops........the husbands pretty Alpha, tall....built.

So the problem with 'locking down' a woman with low self esteem or knows she's lower value......is

She's easy to get, but easy for anyone else to get too.

[–]redpect 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–]JamesStarkIE 2 points3 points  (0 children)

this is my first comment on TRP(have been Lurking a while and am a 40 year old long term AMOG who has been a Self Defense Instructor for 15 years and many more in the Security Game so maintaining AMOG is often a matter of keeping your teeth in,and in some cases of Life and Death) so I hope I understood the rules properly as I am basically quoting the Lyrics from a Necro track here as I

  1. Believe it to be on point(and from 2001 so is in my Era of favourite music and shows that Pussy has always been AWALT and Certain Men have Always been AMOG's)

and 2. That you all including(especially!) the OP could do with listening to the track in question(Long term TRP'ers will get a good laugh out of it, and new heads will get some pointers)

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11. The 12 king pimp commandments!

Uh It's pimp gator Peep the jewels

A king pimp's been here for years representin' There's rules to this shit I'll break down a lesson Step by step Like a booklet for you to sweat And try to apply To make yourself fly No. 1: must be strong in mind and spirit When idiots talk inferior shit Brush it off when you hear it Never fear it Don't put a knife to a broad Cause the penis is mightier than the sword Peep the metaphor You'll find more Cats invaded your crib with nickel-plated 38's imitatin' Satan you wouldn't be intimidated You must play past the devils trickery Prison, liquor and hits of E Nicotine and chicks with V.D

No. 2: must control seven or eight cunts at once A freak for each day of the week, the eight is a lottery stunt Must handle them with cleverness, kindness, shrewdness Intelligence but never with an iron-fist

No. 3: only fuck with a bitch when you're both clickin' Sparrows don't fly with eagle, peacocks can't strut with chickens

4: must withstand all criticism Cause a man whose wife is gettin' pimped doesn't understand her sippin' Jism It's a profitable business to rationalize into cynicism That it's wrong but it isn't

No. 5: never let a female be equal with you Equal right's a fantasy it will come back to normal soon Refuse to have oral-sex with your woman unless you choose Do not accept: if you do me, I'll do you She was put on earth to serve men She may enjoy a cuntlick, but deep down she'll loose respect for you then Only animals you see lickin' sex organs are dogs and cats Females know, during their period cunts are filthy like rats

6: you'll use violence in self-defense To protect yourself, friends, family, women and what you possess

No. 7: never strike a bitch with a pipe or a knife Only strike 'em to shock 'em back to reality's light Toss a bottle at her, hit her with a golf club Break a mirror over her head but never make her draw blood You can start flippin' Grippin' her like a victim But never start hittin' This is called the king pimp's whippin'

No. 8: since Cleanliness is next to godliness You must keep your hygiene clean regardless A shower a day'll do and keep your physical being In the best condition possible it could be in

No. 9: you're never stingy, greedy, drifty or cheap When it comes to you and your peeps You owe yourself the best treats

No. 10: never sweat when a bitch leaves you knowing The story of a man's life, a bitch coming and one going They come better the next time They only make room for a higher grade bitch, the next one is always a Better kind

*11: you're only expected to keep a woman a term of four years unless You're fortunate enough to get re-elected And if she leaves before her term is up, she faked it Cause she wasn't ready for a king pimp anyway, kid Let her fuck with the other 51 pimp-types, they're better for her Welfare pimp, blind pimp, dumb pimp etcetera 12: there's leaders and followers

A king pimp never follows a hollow-headed dick swallower Or a trick equipped with a wallet full of dollars Even a scholar Of Cabala doesn't get followed The only one that got it like that solid is god, kid Cause he's brolicy, understands every topic on how a pimp rocks shit Follow these rules, you'll have mad D-cups and A-cups Bitches runnin' around butt naked with pretty make-up The respect these bitches will have for you will be sacred Slut, pay up I'll put your fuckin' head in the toilet, wake up!

The 12 king pimp commandments No doubt Respect it It's pimp gator All you pimps all over the earth Rock with this" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2oJOJ7_V6k

[–]i_have_a_semicolon 6 points7 points  (10 children)

You know, a girl can suppress her AWALT just fine if she's getting what she needs from the guy she's with. Her fault for not communicating it to you prior, but she likely doesn't even understand her AWALT tendencies. It's fine for you to live your life however you want. But I believe that since she didn't violate any rules in relationships , you guys could have fixed this problem going forward. Oh well.

You can't ever get a unicorn. If you don't work on the relationships you're in, you'll never have a successful one. But since you're so young you should have a few fuck ups under your belt so you know what's what.

It's never one person's fault when relationships split up.

[–]Lsegundo 25 points26 points  (9 children)

But I believe that since she didn't violate any rules in relationships , you guys could have fixed this problem going forward.

Going on a coffee shop date with some other dude in secret is ABSOLUTELY a violation. Have you learned nothing here at TRP? These events lead to her saying shit like "I dont know how his dick ended up down my throat it just happened" She was testing a potential branch swing.

Modern dating is so fucked up. Not only do women in a relationship not know how to act, but some men don't even know what is acceptable and what isn't. Your grandfather knew his gf shouldn't be going on dates with other men.

[–]yes_we_can_t -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

It's a violation, but not a terminal one. In any LTR you have to accept that someone will fall in love with someone else. It can happen to the man and the woman. You have to guard your own feelings against it, and you have to mate guard your woman against it.

AWALT, so read her messages, her social media, email, everything on the regular. You should know if she's regularly talking with someone. If you find out something like this, that's not yet physical in any way, it's ultimatum time. She needs to cut that person out of her life immediately, or she's out of your life. If it's physical she's out of your life immediately.

Most women don't actually go through with cheating, even if they all have it in them. You can also reduce the chances if you're vigilant.

I'm still going to DNA test my kids though, if I have any.

[–]MelodyMyst 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I do not want to have to "be vigilant"

I want to know that even though, my grandma on the prairie had, at least, one other option.... she chose not to exercise that option.

I want to have at least a 50% chance of coming home after riding in a horse-drawn wagon all day, taking care of my household and its future.. that my wife didn't FUCK the barn guy...

If I can't trust you to beat back your own internal nature to not fuck the barn boy... how can you trust me to not fuck the saloon girl?

[–]yes_we_can_t 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I also want to live in a blue-pilled world. Too bad reality isn't like that.

I trust my girlfriend, but I still verify.

[–]MelodyMyst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There has to be a point where you both are evolved enough to recognize.

[–]Lsegundo 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Their forum is becoming a mess. Can some of the endorsed members either back me up or correct me if I am wrong in this comment?

In any LTR you have to accept that someone will fall in love with someone else

Maybe you mean be attracted? If your woman is falling "in love" with someone else he is giving her more tingles and your turn is over whether you know it or not.

you have to mate guard your woman against it.

I thought mate guarding was the ultimate cringe beta shit?

so read her messages, her social media, email, everything on the regular. You should know if she's regularly talking with someone.

more beta creeping? There is no need to read her shit. Trust your gut. I know it isn't easy and I have checked up on a gf, but NOT "on the regular". I shouldn't have even done that. My gut told me everything I needed to know.

If you find out something like this, that's not yet physical in any way, it's ultimatum time.

ultimatums... even more beta shit. Just next her. If she is testing a branch swing you already lost.

[–]yes_we_can_t 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see your points, but I don't think you see the context of LTRs. You're completely right when it comes to plates, of course.

However, in 5 year+ relationships, perhaps with kids, living together for years etc., you don't want to just next, next, next at the slightest problem.

You can't expect to keep up the initial in-love feelings constantly. It's impossible to have those hormones raging around for extended amounts of time. Eventually, there's always a risk that you're out of frame for whatever reason, you're sick, you lose your job, whatever, and suddenly she'll get those feelings for someone else. AWALT.

If you're a family man, should you throw away everything and just next her, even if she's a great woman in general? No, you need to take charge in that situation, set clear boundaries, show her you're still her man. If you believe that's beta, we'll have to disagree.

The relationship isn't automatically over, unless it's gone physical in any way. However, it will be, if you're not on the ball.

[–]yes_we_can_t 0 points1 point  (0 children)

more beta creeping? There is no need to read her shit. Trust your gut. I know it isn't easy and I have checked up on a gf, but NOT "on the regular". I shouldn't have even done that. My gut told me everything I needed to know.

Perhaps not, but I like to do it anyway. I take her phone when we're in bed and just read through her stuff in front of her.

[–]i_have_a_semicolon -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

From what I read in the OP, it sounded like she was just visiting a coffee shop on a frequent basis to get the opportunity to talk to a guy she met there. If it was a date, then yeah, that's a clear violation.

Women precisely don't know what's acceptable or not, or they don't have a strong enough grasp of it. They might doubt their choices in the moment but then wave it off since they can think of plenty of women doing the same thing and not getting slack for it. It's become normalized behavior.

Edit: getting downvoted for suggesting speaking to the opposite gender isn't a violation of relationship trust. Like red pill guys here don't advocate other guys to openly look, flirt, and talk to as many other attractive women as possible while in a relationship

[–]wn36 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She told you OVERTLY that you weren't being man enough. She cheated because of you. You're not red pill bro.

[–]Unstoppable316 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

You guys really think ALL women are like this? I'd say this isn't the case in super religious areas, or with a lot of the older married couples I know. I think you guys create a self-fulfilling prophecy by expecting this. I'd agree that all liberal feminist women like this, but if you come from a time or place where it's one man and one woman, and the family is valued highly, this doesn't happen nearly as much.

[–]MelodyMyst 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you really think you know what is going on in the mind of that older lady sitting next to you at that funeral?

You need one step more to graduate.

[–]XZTALVENARNZEGOMSAYT 2 points3 points  (2 children)

AWALT says every women may not act like this in every moment but they all have it in them to do so and leave, cheat, etc regardless of who they appear to be.

[–]paynehouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should use her for sex now. Nothing more, nothing less.

[–]redrummilf 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I've been all good with the AWALT for a long time. Every romantic relationship I've had with women has ended on my terms. I walked away from my true oneitus once upon a time after seeing her 5 years later on a train in a different city. Walked right away because she had too much power over me and I guessed how things might end up. I've questioned myself a few times over the years about whether I should have given the relationship a chance. Had fate brought us together again in a different city far from where we grew up because we were meant to be? Did I walk away from my soulmate? There is one thing that has finally put my mind completely at rest and has left no doubt that I did the right thing.

Brad Pitt.

The man of ALL men could not keep his woman in check. What chance do the rest of us mortals truly have of guaranteeing loyalty from our woman? Well let me tell you its alot fucking less than Brad. AWALT2

You red pilled married super duper alpha men keep telling yourself you have everything taken care of. You don't. None of us do. Never ever. Ever never.

[–]_Hank-Scorpio_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sorry for your situation, but by what criteria is Brad Pitt "the man of all men"? I know a few men just from recent history who would disagree with you there:

-George Patton -Jim Lovell -Jack Welch

Maybe just by virtue of choosing such a destructive partner Brad Pitt isn't the man you think he is. Perfect 10 wasn't so perfect was she?

[–]redrummilf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes these are great men from a different era. In this social media era we are now living in Brad Pitt might not be the top but as far as famous people he has to be close to the top. You also made my point for me. She screwed things up. Doesn't matter how perfect Brad or any other man is. Your 10 is AWALT no matter how alpha you are in this day and age.

[–]ranoutofthrowaways2 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What if she wasn't doing anything with the guy? I mean where I live, it's pretty normal for a girl to go hang with a guy, without needing permission from her boyfriend.

[–]Lsegundo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I confront her the next day and she almost immediately breaks down in tears apologizing.

His gf knew she was wrong. You need to stop drinking the Koolaid in beta-cucktown.

These are the kind of events women use to test a branch swing or get some side dick and then say "It just happened". In the past people knew how to respect an exclusive relationship, but that has been destroyed.

[–]StirlingG points points [recovered]

She will possibly learn a great lesson from your appropriate response the first time she fed on this instinct. The next man will be very lucky. It can never be you, though.

[–]paintboy71 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What if denying our instincts is one of our instincts?

[–]GOATmar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great post, and almost mirrors my first adult relationship.

Women are all stimulus junkies, and social media addiction/cock-hopping/hollywood/hookup culture has corrupted every single one of them. This cultural indoctrination is so powerful, you cannot blame them for succumbing to this immense pressure. So getting angry is futile.

Treat every woman with this in mind and you will never lose.

[–]beundertaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Relax you're 18 kid. you haven't experienced shit. you need to fall for a couple more unicorns.

[–]enkae7317 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I understand AWALT but damn bro. She was just out with another guy at a coffee shop it could just be a friend ya know. Don't you think you might've overreacted a little bit too hard?

[–]Lsegundo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...or she could be hoeing it up like modern women do. Stop polluting TRP with your BP garbage.

Women need to re-learn how to properly respect an exclusive relationship. Until then all you can do is next them when they fuck up. Your grandpa didn't have to tell grandma not to go on dates with other dudes. Enjoy the decline.

[–]politbur0 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

So I met a girl about a year-and-a-half ago and we had been dating since in an LTR. Having just turned 18

Edgy teenagers seem to have taken this sub over, eh.

[–]Lsegundo 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Young men have interactions with women too. I could have benefitted from TRP even more at that young age than I do now.

I am not sure why people around here get upset that young men are using the forum.

[–]politbur0 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

You see people getting upset? Well, we already know that the only thing they've been teaching ya'll in school nowadays is how to feel.

[–]Lsegundo 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I have seen comments complaining about teens in this forum recently. That is where the problems with women start for most of us so why discourage them from coming to TRP?