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Red Pill TheoryHaving sex with the slutty "good girl" and confirming red pill logic. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by stokeoner

  • Ill start by saying i recently got out of an LTR about a month ago, so obviously i was down in the dumps for a little bit, when i first started dating this girl i was the definition of alpha, but as the relationship went on i became comfortable and slipped into beta ways, when we had our masive break up fight she even said " you used to be this cool mysterious confident guy, but youre just not that anymore" ( AKA you used to be an attractive alpha now you're a beta wimp) now I will state ive never really had a problem getting girls, im a tattoo artist and a sponsored skateboarder so for the most part if i was interested in a girl i would end up fucking them.

  • After a solid talk with my cousin/ best friend he turned me onto the red pill, this completely changed my view on pretty much everything, started working out, eating right, cut porn/social media, cut down on gaming, started meditating, read no more mr nice guy(game changer if you haven't read it) and really started putting the practices into play.

  • Cut to this girl i was interested in for a wile, I was in the LTR and didn't peruse because of that, every time i talked to this girl she was this nice, sweet, innocent nerdy girl, shes a total smoke show, if she had bigger boobs and ass she would be a perfect 10 for sure, But now im out of my LTR and free to pursue, I shoot her a follow on instagram, sure enough within 20 minutes she follows me back, i shoot her just a simple hey trouble opener in her dm's play it very cool dont answer too quickly, really living by the talk to her like youve already fucked, sure enough within 5 messages she asks if im still with my gf, and when i say no she goes "oh good" im talking to her as if she has the biggest crush on me, tease her and flirt a bit, within 20 minutes she says we need to fuck.

  • So we hang out last night, I go over to her house and hang with her and her sister for a bit, Here im playing it suuuper cool, barley talking, only really saying things that are necessary, not talking about myself to much and mostly asking questions, her sister goes to bed and we go to her room, where we all know what happens, when we finish she starts praising me for the way i was acting, how i took control of most situations, she loved the way i escalated everything and even specifically said " I like how you only say what you have to, it makes you so mysterious" and this girl fucked like a pornstar, just wanted to be thrown the fuck around and straight manhandled.

  • Moral of the story

    • Always escalate
    • Dont say more than you need to
    • Treat girls like theyre already in love with you
    • Talk to them like youve already fucked
    • That good girl you know is probably a closet slut

[–][deleted] 337 points338 points  (20 children)

Always escalate
Dont say more than you need to
Treat girls like theyre already in love with you
Talk to them like youve already fucked
That good girl you know is probably a closet slut

TRP in a Bento box.

Op, you rock!

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I like it, minimalist and gets a message through. Wouldn't say it embodies all of TRP though.

[–]Alphadestrious 34 points35 points  (1 child)

The red the pill testament; put that shit up as a poster fam

[–]cashmoney_x 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Strikeout the probably and you're golden.

[–]ayylma088 2 points3 points  (8 children)

Someone explain to me how you treat them as if they were in love with me and as if weve already fucked

[–]El_Shakiel 10 points11 points  (7 children)

Here's an exemple from this weekend:

  • me and my bud go out at the local posh bar
  • get a beer, get on the terrace, friend opens set. One (arguably) 7 and one undiscuted 8.
  • 7 hits on me but I'm only mildly interested (I'm in an LTR so it takes a 9+ to actually cheat)
  • I (always) assume attraction (obviously)
  • whenever she tries to validate herself, I give positives. Whenever she tries negging, I dismiss, A&A or pressure flip.
  • whenever she goes physical (they usuall do) I tell them playful stupid shit like "hey, hands off the marchandise!" Or "hey, hands off, you could get me a drink first at least" or whatever
  • when hitting the club, eventually, I always escalate untill I'm undoubtedly rejected, or smash.
  • when time to leave, never not throw a hail marry like you dont care, because you obviously dont

[–]Eclectiqque 3 points4 points  (2 children)

never not throw a hail marry like you dont care, because you obviously dont

what do you mean by that? you mean not saying goodbye to girls you've talked to?

[–]El_Shakiel 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Not really. More like, if shit is going nowhere, and you're about to hit home alone, just throw in a last ditch effort like "soo... your place or mine ?" with a smirk.

10% of the time it works every time.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

whenever she tries to validate herself, I give positives. Whenever she tries negging, I dismiss, A&A or pressure flip.

Can you elaborate on all these techniques?

[–]NoFapColdShower 4 points5 points  (1 child)

dismiss = ignore completely and redirect the conversation in a different direction or act like you didn't hear and that your attention is somewhere else. You could also act like the idea of her insulting you is so futile that its cute. (this really only works (well) if you're somewhat physically imposing.

Pressure flip = her: "you look like a tryhard douchebag" you: "haha are you just saying that because you don't want me to notice how hard you tried on your makeup?" thats just one example and its probably not even a very good one.

A&A = Agree and Amplify her: "you act like a player." you: "oh yeah, I literally go home with [insert absurd number] women every night"

[–]HaramDingo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do the dismiss thing slightly different. Just laugh like it has no effect on you, as if you know she is making a joke. Total ignoring of the neg as if it could only ever be a joke, essentially.

Watch the negs fall faster than their g-bangers.

[–]RememberingAlpha 97 points98 points  (13 children)

I struggle finding a balance between not saying more than I need to and being Charismatic/ funny.

I love public speaking, I'm damn good at it- being the loud, well spoken, charismatic guy is my "brand of Alpha" as I've heard it put. Thats my masculine identity, I own that shit. It works for me.

That said though, I feel like employing the Don Draper style of quiet, omnipotent power is just not ever going to mesh with my personality- it seems inauthentic or consciously reserved. I try to never be the class clown, but I am definitely the funny guy.

[–]stokeoner[S] 74 points75 points  (5 children)

Honestly, less is more, and i cant stress that enough, as a former "charismatic/ funny" guy, I will tell you that this mindset is very easy to get friend zoned, seeing you as a funny guy doesn't make a girl wet haha, im still a funny guy, my cousin is a stand up comic so all we do is sit around and joke around, but like with anything, theres a time and place for everything, when youre in a crowd of people, be that guy, it will make everyone gravitate towards you, when its just a 1 on 1 type scenario less is definitely more!

[–]RememberingAlpha 15 points16 points  (2 children)

I understand.

That dynamic I do play, and I have had plates say they felt special when they could tell I switched into my quieter more interpersonal animus when we were 1 on 1. I assume they felt they were being let in on "the man behind the curtain" so to speak.

[–]stokeoner[S] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I think on the surface they see it as you letting them into the man behind the curtain, but subconsciously they're so enthralled with how mysterious and selective you're being it makes it seem like everything you are actually saying is just that much more important if that makes any sense?

[–]RememberingAlpha 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Right. Of course when it comes nexting time she tells all her friends how in authentic and in consistent you are, and that you adapt to the setting and population of the room.....

Oh no! I can thrive in all sorts of bars/sales meetings.

That was shameless venting.

[–]MasterOfLulz points points [recovered]

That may be the case for you. But for me i flip between funny and sexy. You become closer and more naturally connected with a random chick through humor, which they love, and then your sprinkle in "mysterious" and "alpha (lol)" as you continue. It works

[–]stokeoner[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I usually save humor for after weve already fucked, thats not to say i never make jokes, I just make organic jokes that pertain to the moment, i dont go out of my way to make jokes i let them come naturally, makes it seem a lot less forced

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I would definately say go with your gut instinct here. If youre charismatic use it in your favor. Some people flourish with quiet and cool.

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 12 points13 points  (2 children)

The charismatic star of the show is often secretly disliked for unconsciously making it all about themselves too conspicuously (i.e emotionally leeching), people recognize it - especially women, since they do this professionally. Yet the same exact person is loved by near everybody when they channel that loud charisma to facilitate, bring others out of the shell and give them all some of that sunshine, not hoarding it for themselves. It looks like the same exact funny-guy behaviour from the outside, but everyone responds very differently when funnyguy succeeds to make it about them, not him.

Something to think about.

[–]gg_s 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You can be the jester or you can be the king.

[–]RememberingAlpha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very valid and I'm acutely aware. I studied leadership/management in school and the distinction between employing emotional intelligence versus emotionally dumping on people is a very hotly discussed topic these days. I reigster very high on the emotional intelligence scale. Something about gifts and curses and all that.

[–]1Metalageddon 9 points10 points  (2 children)

They're not exclusive bro.

A well dropped joke is contextual, the setup happens around you. (Unless you're on stage making the setup)

You just wait and when that moment hits, take it. It feels natural. It just flows.

I recognize that I write verbosely, but in person I'm a man of incredibly few words, to the same effect as OP. If I find it funny I laugh, if I see something funny, I do it, but my internal monologue is my own. You have to earn that kinda info.

You can do it too, but you should only do it if that's what makes you happy.

If you're a talker, own it and improve it. If you're not, pull mysterious stoic. No biggie either way.

[–]Unbansawsage 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Its good seeing this confirmed. I stopped trying to be funny every chance I got and started dropping remarks when they worked. I probably only make a few jokes a week but it only takes a single good one to be forever known as the funny guy. Especially sarcastic remarks, ive made remarks that have gotten the entire classroom laughing and got me branded as funny, smart, and charismatic by everyone in the room from one event. Sure I could always do this but when you try to act smart every chance you get, people will think you're a little bitch who cries out for attention wich I a perception I never want to have again.

[–]1Metalageddon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely. I probably verbalize less in a week than most do in two days. To be fair, I probably write more in a day than most do in a month.

You got this. Remember the 80/20. Only 20% of what is done really creates change, so make most of your life about that.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 50 points51 points  (0 children)

That good girl you know is probably a closet slut

All women are sluts. We should love them for it for I know I do.

Within a different social order, like the one we just left behind, bluepill behavior was highly rewarded and being a slut was punished. Now that those days are behind us, slut it up ladies. Have fun. I mean, don't be surprised when shit falls apart around you, but there is no going back. You might as well taste as much Chad cock as you can.

[–]Bohemiannn 14 points15 points  (1 child)

quite the article. Thank you. I'm working on a "good girl" right now. I too just got out of LTR. Met her a week ago, kept it really casual because of focus issues. We hung out once, and she jumped my bones harder than anything ever. She uttered the line, "i'm usually a good girl". boom.

Ive never seen Pupils as dilated as hers before.

Also, you can be a talker, and still be hella mysterious, be complicated in your talking and intentions. Women love a good puzzle.

[–]Dragon_Garoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"i'm usually a good girl."

hahahahahhaha

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Another case of most straight women being total freaks in the bedroom. It really just takes a certain type of guy who's confident and comfortable with his sexuality to bring it out in her. It's all about the lead.

[–]MrAnderzon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where's the post on how to lead

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 31 points32 points  (12 children)

Was she hot enough to sniff her asshole? Only really hot girls are sniff-worthy.

[–]dabigmon 20 points21 points  (10 children)

sniff? What about eat, sir.

[–]Terdmuffin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sometimes you just gotta pinch your nose.

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 9 points10 points  (8 children)

A hot woman's asshole is like a fine wine, you need to savor it with all of your senses.

[–]gg_s 21 points22 points  (7 children)

No, you don't. This is a good time to pause and figure out why your disgust reflex is malfunctioning.

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 10 points11 points  (6 children)

I'm just interested in women's assholes. I like to think of myself as the Hannibal Lecter of ass, I can sniff a woman's shitbox, savor the flavor, and learn her whole life story from the taste of her turdbox.

[–]gg_s 17 points18 points  (4 children)

How much porn have you consumed?

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 11 points12 points  (3 children)

I am working on an avant-garde post modernist collage of women's assholes where I use photoshop to color them various colors, so probably a fair amount, but only to snip out the butthole and add it to my collection.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Did that with a friend of mine once. Just collected photo's of (female) buttholes and saved them on his phone. reams of them.

his gf found them and was like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Suggest he should've photoshopped them and she would've been less judgmental.

[–]b3yourself 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ayy my man. I also have an anal fixation. I dated two trans girls in fact. Call me gay idgaf I did it for the shitbox.

[–]slay_it_forward -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's ideal to bend her over, sniff the dark star, then proceed to bury your tongue in her beaver and lick all the way from the clit to the asshole.

[–]Need2LickMuff 18 points19 points  (16 children)

Dont say more than you need to

A buddy of mine who gets laid way more than I do (then again, monks do too) has a tendency to never shut up, and it works in his favour. He's always saying funny ass shit and women always seem to be proper engaged in what he has to say. Then there's me, the guy who is quiet and reserved, speaking only when I have summat to say. I don't see women as attracted to me when I speak as they are with him, even when I'm not giving off beta vibes.

I don't know if they are just trying to figure me out so their attraction isn't as upfront, or if my buddy ends up pulling some magical shit with a girl afterwards since I've seen everyone on here talking about the strong, silent type being the archetype to be and that a Chatty Cathy just emulates a woman's best gayguy friend, however, in my experiences it's the opposite.

[–]stokeoner[S] 25 points26 points  (4 children)

this more relates to confidence, if you just ooze confidence people pick up on it very quick and will be drawn to that confidence, theres a show called "Nathan for you" and one experiment he tries to land a job without saying a single word, or by using words of someone trying to sabotage him, and it goes a lot better than you would expect, everyone reacts to his confidence. your words have to be meaningful and convey power, if youre sitting there quietly and giving short or one word answers, this isnt the same as selectivity picking your words and structuring them in a way that makes those words seem important, you need to convey that you are intelligent and mysterious, not quite and awkward

[–]PhishPhan700 7 points8 points  (0 children)

^ Basically this. It's about how you carry yourself and the conversation. If you're reserved and quiet yet awkward/nervous/tense seeming then women will pick up on it.

[–]alefmale 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Wow didn't expect a Nathan For You reference on RP. Not exactly the prototype alpha, and yet...

[–]stokeoner[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

right?!?! haha the dude is the definition of awkwardness but boy does his confidence get people to do some stupid things lol

[–]Frietjeman 21 points22 points  (9 children)

Most of it is a case of

  1. Be attractive.

  2. Don't be unattractive.

Women will rationalize it how they want. An attractive, silent guy is mysterious. An unattractive silent guy is a creep. An attractive talkative guy is fun to be around/confident. An unattractive talkative guy is annoying/attention seeking.

[–]Need2LickMuff 2 points3 points  (7 children)

IDK, man.

I'm attractive, and I've never really experienced anything like that. I know the joke about a hot insecure guy = 'sensitive' whereas an ugly insecure guy is a loser, but in my experiences I've always been treated as a loser. Not in an outright nasty way like I'm sure lots of guys get it, but I'm not pulling ass like a Mexican tour guide.

[–]Frietjeman 7 points8 points  (3 children)

If you're being treated like a loser and you, like you said, get laid less than monks, I'm having a hard time believing you on your word you're attractive. Attractiveness isn't only looks either, if you sperg out at the sight of a girl she's obviously gonna treat you like a loser.

All I know is TRP is filled with people claiming being the silent type is the way to go, and other people taking the charismatic, more talkative route. Seems to me both methods work as long as you're confident in your choice.

It almost sounds like you expect some magic formula. "Go in and do this, say that, don't say that, and you'll get laid". That ain't TRP man.

[–]Need2LickMuff 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I get IOI's all the time; I've been vocal about how I lose attraction when they expect me to talk to them, though most hold on as long as they can for me to take initiative. So, fair enough at that point about attraction not boiling down to face.

TRP convinces me more and more how not cut out for this I am.

[–]NotMyBestEffort 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You are cut out for this. You just don't know it yet. My guess is you were raised by a single mom -like me. I could have used a good solid male role model. Hard Mode for sure, but fixable.

[–]Need2LickMuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was raised by a single father, but he was weak and would drunk rage and insult me a lot.

Going to boo-hoo a little: If I were cut out for it, I'd not have pissed away 15 years of my life becoming a recluse and rejecting everyone who tried to get to know me.

[–]chadeusmaximus 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Mexican tour guide? Never heard that term before. Care to explain?

[–]stokeoner[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

mexican tour guides usually have donkeys to help them carry things, another name for a donkey is an ass,

[–]Need2LickMuff -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You know those tour guides that let you ride on the back of a mule or whatever in the Grand Canyon?

[–]1Sir_Distic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's a difference between being silent and saying as little as necessary.

[–]wasabichilifireworks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly I have read a lot around here about being "stoic" and only saying what needs to be said... but honestly I don't think that's true.

What matters is the quality of the words that come out of your mouth, not quantity. Too little can be bad. Too much can be bad. You have to find the amount that best suits you... just stay within the boundaries of "medium".

Other things that are important are being socially comfortable, confident, body language*, and generally know what you're talking about and take charge, in her best interest.

  • because it's extremely important

[–]Steve_Wiener 7 points8 points  (4 children)

within 20 minutes she says we need to fuck.

did she say literally "we need to fuck?"

[–]stokeoner[S] 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Her - Trust me im the best. And you will know this soon

Her - Lol okay im not that cocky at all but were flirting sooo

Me - Haha Fake it till you make it right?

Her - But if youre good enough i wont have to fake it oooohhhhh

Me - pff give me an actual challenge?

Her - Wow we need to fuck.

[–]bunny_throwaway 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Sounds made up or this dude looks like adonis or something

[–]stokeoner[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Definitely look nothing close to adonis lol unless by adonis you mean super skinny short guy then yep thats me lol. But also not fake either

[–]sup1337hax 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Just 360 flip over to the next one lol

[–]tuyguy 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Extremely hot guy bangs hot girl.

Red pill lessons learned guys, read closely.

[–]stokeoner[S] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Lol, wile I do appreciate the sentiment, I'm by no means an extremely hot guy, I was chubby all through high school and even now I'm 5,7 130 pounds soaking wet, I'm above avarage at best lol, I just stared focusing on things I could change, like getting a good haircut, buying nice clothes, tattoos definitely don't hurt that's for sure

[–]gg_s 6 points7 points  (2 children)

"Above average" means you're the hottest guy in the room most of the time.

[–]stokeoner[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

compared to most of my friends, not really, most of my friends are taller and better looking than me, its more about real confidence than it is about being the hottest guy ever, Ive know some very unattractive by most standards guys often go home with the girl they want purely by their confidence

[–]Mantas_Confid 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Sounds a bit unrealistic, with girls mentioning you being mysterious all the time, but even if this story isn't real, moral of the story is still worth reading.

[–]stokeoner[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the only reason i specifically brought up the word mysterious is because 2 separate girls said that exact word to me, one was directly referencing me and one was indirectly, the girl from this article said " I need to start saying less like you, it would make me seem more mysterious also"

[–]SisyphosOnTop 3 points4 points  (1 child)

While I like your story and your RP bullet points conclusio I don't get why came to this conclusion..? Like come on.

im a tattoo artist and a sponsored skateboarder so for the most part if i was interested in a girl i would end up fucking them.

You have a cool trade/hobby/art. Chicks dig this.

Cut to this girl i was interested in for a wile, I was in the LTR and didn't peruse because of that, every time i talked to this girl she was this nice, sweet, innocent nerdy girl

You were the forbidden fruit. Also, having a girlfriend means, this guy fucks..

Now stop right here. Status, social proof, not ugly, Tripple check. That chick was dripping wet right there. All you had to do was trying not to fuck it up, which was, a walk in the park. She straight up told you she was DTF.. You could have walked over there and just told her that your name is Buck.. Same Ending.

I don't want to hate but the moral of the story is

  • have high SMV

  • don't fuck it up

[–]stokeoner[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wile I appreciate where you're coming from, I know plenty of tattoo artists and skateboarders who couldn't get laid if they paid for it, and I wasnt always like this, the old me would have not even gotten close, i was a shy timid awkard skater with long hair, i literally repelled pussy, but like most people here i focused on what i could change, nice clothes, haircut, tattoos, working on my social interaction skills, and with the help of TRP figuring out what works, the old me would have gotten friend zoned faster than you can say what a beta

[–]Greg4581 11 points12 points  (7 children)

It seems like understanding how women work and getting them in bed with you is an art form for some people, and many have mastered it. I never really understood why some people revolve their life so much around that sort of thing, though I suppose everyone has some sort of goal they need to satisfy while young, or even into middle age and beyond. Personally though, I detest everything about slutty girls, other than the physical attractiveness they may have. They essentially don't have a real personality, and I can't help but view them as degenerates. I feel like I'd be degrading myself if I ever went for that type, yet the primitive part of my brain makes me want them solely for their physical attributes. It's a battle of the mind...

[–]Htowngetdown 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Sounds like anger phase. Sluts come in all shapes and sizes. Some are smarter than others, and some have more of a personality than others. Prude girls can be just as dumb and boring as you seem to think slutty ones are.

[–]stokeoner[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

can confirm ive fucked some dumb prudes, and really interesting sluts, i wouldn't say the 2 are exclusive

[–]Greg4581 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I suppose I should have worded that better, because it's not specifically slutty girls, just girls who are bland, tasteless, brainless, have no goals or ambitions... It's just that from my experience most slutty girls tend to fit in all those categories but I know I shouldn't generalize. And I especially hate the ones who say shit like "all men are pigs" or "there aren't any good guys" when those same girls often go to nightclubs dressed slutty and drink too much, and yet they wonder why they only get fuckboys... And of course they seldom give good guys a chance because they don't know what the hell they want until they're older and decide to finally settle down, only then it's too late because they whored themselves out so no guys want to settle down with them. I just wish more girls would get that through their heads, for both their sake and ours.

[–]Htowngetdown 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, we just gotta make the best of it. Take care

[–]redditigation points points [recovered]

eh, they're just honest about their human nature. They have personalities, very real ones. But when you need to fuck you need to fuck. The brain does the processing but the sex organ produces the hormone.

[–]Greg4581 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've met several bimbos before who have no personality. It's like the only things they do in life are eat, sleep, fuck, and smoke weed. Their lack of intelligence also disturbs me. I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to do those things since it's their life and they aren't really hurting anyone, but I can still criticize their choices and lifestyle, can I not?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pursuing multiple women... the 6th step!!! ... Or would it be part of the acceptance phase?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I went to Colombia and speak spanish, but of course not 100% fluently. Not being able to communicate effectively when I was with a couple girls while there actually made my life easier. I just used body language, and said things only when asked, since I couldn't understand conversation amongst themselves. Of course it ended how expected. I think it would be great to just disconnect from a conversation like that in some ways in english as well.

[–]stokeoner[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this is partially why tourist/ foreigners seem so appealing, because they say less they seem more confident and mysterious but its really just due to a language barrier haha

[–]10211799107 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Colombia is on my list. Care to write a few suggestions for where to go, places to avoid etc? Learning Spanish as my 3rd language now, want to go to Colombia in the next year or two.

[–]username_1_1_1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Holy shit, people, every other reply is "he's only getting away with it because he's good looking." He's getting away with it because he's confident. If you're sitting there thinking that you can't act a certain way because you're not attractive enough then you've already lost. Stop focusing on how unattractive you think you are and start seducin women.

[–]stokeoner[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you.. Im by no means an extremely hot guy, I just act like i am, and make myself look good in areas I can actually change, I see so many guys be like Im confident! and im like yeah, but you dress like you get your clothes from fucking target... lol

[–]Notassexylol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You sound like me 5 years ago! I was that type of guy.. brought out the dirtiest stuff from the "good" girls and they sure where wild when you brought it out!

I used to be like you "mysterious" "confident" "talk and treat them like we already fucked"

Now in a LTR becoming and beta!!

[–]trovlet 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Can someone explain to me the don't talk more than needed? Isn't being silenced alot is a bit awkward And make you look as shy or socially retarded?

[–]stokeoner[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you dont have to sit in silence to not say more than necessary, if she asks you a question for instance, answer in a somewhat vague answer that does technically answer the question but also leaves her wondering what youre leaving out, it ends them holding onto your every word

[–]prodigy2throw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That summary is gold. You learn fast homie

[–]ayylma088 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Please elaborate further on the 3rd point. How exactly did you project that "talk to her as if she has the biggest crush on me" while chatting with her?

I just cant seem to understand how to get this mindset.

[–]stokeoner[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

when you know a girl has a crush on you, it makes it easier for you to tease and flirt and make sexual jokes with them, I do this for pretty much everyone now, regardless if i know they are into me or not, I think talk to her as if she has the biggest crush on you and talk to her like youve already fucked go hand in hand

[–]ayylma088 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I do get the concept... but how do you internalize that? Like for example you just met her half an hour ago. How do you convincingly act as if she was "yours" already?

[–]stokeoner[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

when you know a girl is really into you, it makes it really easy to flirt and tease her and make sexual jokes towards her,go in with this same mind set whether you know she likes you or not, I find a lot of guys in the beginning are worried about doing these things in fears of scaring them away, but girls love it, obviously keep it light in the beginning, but always escalate and you will find she will escalate as well

[–]ayylma088 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright. Thanks for the advice. Appreciated

[–]yerkinit 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Very well said. I personally am starying to work on talking less. And yes yes yes, No More Mr Nice Guy is an absolute game changer - one of the most profound books i have ever read.

[–]stokeoner[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Ive honestly never connected with a book like i did with no more mr nice guy, its like example after example of me going holy shit... thats me.... did they write this whole book about me? lol, Ive made so many positive changes in my life purely because of that book

[–]yerkinit 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yes, i thought the exact same thing while reading through it. The book read me. I went down an absolute rabit hole of reading about masculinity and red pill. The rational male was also huge. Honest shit. I still have progress to make but i cannot thank these authors enough for what they have taught me.

[–]stokeoner[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have not read the rational male, glad you brought it up tho, I will definitely ad it to the top of the list

[–]yerkinit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. Read asap. Both of these books should be read by every man

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

But how do you "Always escalate" and "[not] say more than you need to?"

[–]stokeoner[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

escalating is feeding off of what SHE is saying, therefore you are just responding to her in a way that escalates the situation, not saying more than you need to is more dont sit there and ramble on and on about yourself

[–]shahido2017 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I’ve tried to do the whole “talking only when I need to” thing and it just created awkward silences between us. How do you avoid those awkward moments while keeping talking to a minimum?

[–]stokeoner[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it shouldn't be silent, you should be saying things that will evoke her talking more, ask questions, try not to talk about yourself get her to talk about herself, she should be the one talking 90% of the time, it shouldn't be silent