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Over on ASKtrp, there are a lot of guys—well-meaning, potentially decent guys, but guys who don't have a clue—who keep saying things like, “My gf was helping me with my depression”, or “She knows I have social anxiety issues which is why I can't deal with X”, or “My ADHD keeps me from my full potential, my friends all know it's what's holding me back”; stuff like that.

All mental health issues are weaknesses. And no woman wants to hear about them. No woman can ever respect a man with mental health issues. No woman can respect a man who's a victim—she can only respect a victimizer. (Hence why women fantasize about Nazis in SS-officer uniforms raping them.) If she can't respect him, why would she want to fuck him?

This goes for social interactions with men, too. No man can respect a little bitch-boy who complains about his anxiety or depression or other “mental health issues”. No man can trust such a whiner—and won't. So if he can't trust such a whining little bitch-boy, why would he include him in his social circle?

All mental health issues are weaknesses. There are three solutions to weaknesses: Solve them yourself; get professional help to solve them; or else hide them so well—and act counter to them at every opportunity so completely—that they eventually disappear.

Revealing your weaknesses, especially depression/anxiety issues, as per the current fashion of over-sharing “muh feelz”, diminishes a man's SMV faster than anything I can think of, short of chopping off his own balls-and-cock with a dull rusty spoon while taking it up the ass by Hilton Perez (or whatever that poofter's name is).

You have anxiety? You have depression? Go to a fucking doctor, get a pill, and stfu about it.

Be a man, not a victim.

/end-rant

Edit: If anyone wants to see what I look like, and watch me rant some more, go to my YouTube channel, “Coach Red Pill”.


[–]1OneRedYear138 points139 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

This is the truth. Heed these words or suffer. Older guy here, I have anxiety and depression stemming from my childhood. I never tell anyone anymore. A. Nobody cares. B. Anyone who cares only cares because it makes you look weak and they enjoy it. C. Family will only care so long before they will just tell you to get over it. (my mother for instance). Just keep it to yourself. It's better to go ghost on a bitch, deal with your depression and then come back like nothing ever happened and tell her you were busy. Let her hamster wheel run and keep your problems to yourself and your therapist. Also never tell them you have therapist. You have gym, a doctors appointment, a meeting to go to. Fuck being honest with people.

[–][deleted] 46 points47 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I sit next to this dude at work who does nothing my complain every time he opens his mouth. He's 34 and single (not by choice), just moved out of his parents' for the first time, and is the office psycho. He's angry as fuck. Tells everyone about his anxiety problems. Every problem is someone else's fault. Every little issue is a giant problem worthy of a keyboard slam, an enormous sigh, etc. He is beta as fuck. Bitches about Trump. Bitches about everything in the world. Smokes weed like twice a day. Paces around.

I can tell you I can't stand this fucker. He is a good enough person, but I have nothing but contempt for him. He creates a shitty work environment, makes everything awkward a hell, and so on. So yeah, in summary, if you're a grown man, do not fucking whine. Unless it is absolutely justified.

P.S. - NoFap will cure (and if not, definitely help 10x) your anxiety.

[–]aanarchist4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

sounds like someone who gets a lot of pussy tbh

[–]vimann12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is absolute gold and should be taken into account by anyone. In my lifetime I only opened up to 2 girlfriends about my issues with depression and anxiety. They were oh-so-supportive-and-understanding until they weren't. They lost respect for me the second I had shown my weaknesses, but I was too bluepilled to see it. Never lose frame. Fix yourself as much as possible, chances are your mental issues are affecting you in other areas in your life, not just with women.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm honest about some things, personal shit not so much except for on here. Even then I obscure things and blend them together with other times, because fuck sjw trolls. They don't need to know what I've got going on.

[–]youkickmyd0g4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Right? I'm kind of a TRP addict recently because so much shit is going on personally+professional that's so far outside what anyone in my life can comprehend, much less give a fuck about. Not that anyone here personally gives a fuck, but it's nice getting little nuggets of insight in replies and feels good to offer the same... esp. when they come back a month+ later and say thanks again. "Holy shit, I'm visible!"

[–]PranksterLad1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I suffer from depression, badly, I have been on anti-depressants and finally come off them. But it hurts man, it sucks, its a real fucking thing, but I suffer from it and now I realize people just tell me to get over it. I swear, the girl that brought me to the red pill used it to her advantage. To be honest, some days I don't want to live, this world is sick. I have a therapist, but I feel like it solved nothing. Absolutely nothing.

[–]hoesdrinktea points points [recovered] | Copy Link

do you know what man? most of us have been there. Life is worth living, pick yourself up, sort your diet out, lift, read, groom and dress well. Ignore the bitches for a minute and sort yourself out (unless you're getting ass easily, which i doubt as depression almost has a smell)

Get yourself a new therapist too.

[–]1OneRedYear0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Welcome to the club. You have three choices with every problem in life. Kill yourself, learn to live with it, fix it. Sometimes you can't fix it so you have two choices. The main thing is, no matter what you choose nobody wants to hear about it in the real world. It's really for you and up to you. If you are trying to fix it and it's not working, double down, change tactics or learn to live with it. 30+ years. I've learned to live with the black dog. It's just a part of my life. I'll kill myself when I start to get old and frail.

[–]1lonewolf10 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah man my cousin has had similar problems to that so have I and like you said it's difficult to talk to people about it as you just feel like they will use it against you, I've spoken to my cousin about it when I was drunk but the next day u just feel so weak and worry about what you said he is a good guy but it's like no one really understands it and talking to people might give yourself some relief but that it only temporary if anyone has any advice for social anxiety low self esteem depression and paranoid personality disorder please give some tips to overcome or control these problems

[–]1OneRedYear1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Find someone you can talk to. A therapist or a good friend who lives outside of your social bubble. I still struggle with my own issues, but as I've gotten older I've cared a lot less about anyone else's opinions. I also have so much to do I don't have time to be depressed or have social anxiety.

As usual, exercise, clean up your diet, surround yourself with positive people, cut back on vices, and do those nagging things you been putting off. Go over your goals and your progress and spend time with people you enjoy. All of those will give you a quick boost.

And remember you really only have two options. Fix it, or accept it. Fixing it might take time, but what else do you have to do?

[–]reecewagner94 points95 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

Pretty sure this is why there's a higher suicide rate amongst men - we're already shutting the fuck up about it.

[–]slay_it_forward14 points15 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Women have the luxury of talking about things. Men will still want to fuck them if they have nice jugs. As OP stated, men don't have the same luxury. Illness is weakness regardless of whether it's mental or physical and weakness equals no sperm in egg for you.

Talking about it with people you know accomplishes nothing anyway. I've had bouts of manic depression but I've solved the problem on my own. Basically you just deal with it until your state changes. This too shall pass, as the saying goes.

[–]reecewagner7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've had bouts of manic depression but I've solved the problem on my own. Basically you just deal with it until your state changes. This too shall pass, as the saying goes.

I do tend to agree - people should look within first before turning to a diagnosis or a medication to fix it for them, and this sub has honestly provided a lot of direction in that regard for me - get tough on yourself and observe the changes. But there are legitimate chemical imbalances in people's brains as well, and in all cases, seeking proper treatment is more important than having a woman's approval.

[–]Menchstick7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Depression>not talking about it>suicide because of bottled feelings

Depression>talking about it>no girl will ever think of you sexually because of it

Of course I'm talking bout serious cases, I've struggled with depression for 3 years myself, never told anyone anything about it and it eventually went away.

[–]DeathToTheZog3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Lifting helps me a lot. If you are comfortable in your own skin, a lot of these anxiety issues melt away. I was really bad with social anxiety. Still am, but I have this new aura about myself. It counters anxiety a lot. Like a give no fucks attitude.

[–]ASeatOnTheCarousel4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Seconded, lifting helps me a lot with social anxiety. Particularly the hours following a good workout, I find myself a lot less passive and having less negative thoughts, to the point where I try to ensure I lift before seeing a plate.

Even though I don't lift heavy (yet), there's something very satisfactory about picking up and putting down a heavier weight than you ever have before.

[–]Patriarchysaurus points points [recovered] | Copy Link

Get a shrink, at least that way the transaction is right there on the table. They're getting paid to listen and counsel you, and they have more experience than any woman who "knows you" or "actually cares on a personal level".

[–]yessum4472 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Talking about it doesn't help you recover. As someone who has dealt with depression, it's an exclusively personal problem. No one else can solve it except yourself. Talking about it only hurts you.

[–]blurtard0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Here here. The key to depression is to fucking forget about it. Never let that shit into your head again. Fill your brain with other shit and don't ever take a moment to ruminate.

[–]throw1745354 points55 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

The mental health issue is interesting.

There is a significant aspect of dealing and overcoming mental health issues which comes from being able to vocalise it. Talk it over, understand it, rationalise and process it - in order to then get the fuck over it.

Also in terms of shame from mental health - the two can often go hand in hand - and overcoming that will often require being capable of talking about it - with zero shame or insecurity. Face the judgement of others, and in so doing realise their view is unimportant - a lot of it is in your mind.

To deal with mental health issues you should be talking about them with at least someone. Just do so with people whom it is safe to do so.

So for example:

Close personal friend, who you know has your back and understands you, and is trustworthy? Perhaps ok to speak to

Therapist who is professionally obligated to keep your confidence, and in assisting? Perhaps ok to speak to

Girl you're interested in fucking?

God no...

Coworker who's judgement could impact your working life.

God no...

Mental health is not something you should completely STFU about and deal with in isolation. People who try that can spend years dealing with it, and it makes it worse. The key is know when and with whom it is beneficial and safe to do so.

I've spoken about mental health here from a personal perspective, and it hasn't been an issue at all. There is a power that comes from anonymity and not caring what impression internet strangers have of you though. Real life you should be more discerning.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with this--there is a need to have a balanced perspective. The reason why a person should always seek to do what is within his power to improve his life is because no one is capable of living your life for you. What some random woman thinks is entirely secondary to that. Even if you have people in your life who care about your well being, they cannot live your life for you, and before seeking out assistance from other people it is only fair for you commit to do whatever is in your power to help yourself. Otherwise people that try to help you may feel exploited.

I'm very against telling people to be ashamed of their "weaknesses" though--if those weakness cropped up spontaneously. If you are going to live any kind of life worth living you had better get used to the fact that you are not perfect, and will have vulnerabilities, even if you aim for total self sufficiency. Weakness, particularly in the sexual marketplace, can be relative: as a man you will never be (all at once) the strongest, fastest, most intelligent, most charismatic, highest networth, etc. etc. Even if you are doing well in some of those areas, for sure there are men who top you in some of these categories, and with age you start to slip as well.

So you better maintain a good grasp of reality. You have to have enough strength of character that on the one hand you aim to always improve (in the areas that you rationally determine are worth improving), while also having the self respect to say fuck you to the world, and any woman, if that does not satisfy them. That includes being unashamed of talking about your problems, with the right people, if that's what you need to do to help you deal with things.

[–]beginner_3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Mental health is not something you should completely STFU about and deal with in isolation. People who try that can spend years dealing with it, and it makes it worse. The key is know when and with whom it is beneficial and safe to do so.

Yeah agree. You should not hide it completely or it will destroy you. In fact shame about it and in general bottling up all kinds of shit will on generate anxiety. The issue is that very few people nowadays actually have close friends they can or should talk about such issues. Get a therapist. It helps to get stuff of your chest and no it helps more than a dairy.

And co-worker is never a friend. Never. Work is the place you never say something. We had this guy once that completely lost it at one point. He wrote an email to the board and CEO about how some other employees suck as hell, they should be shoot and stuff like that. Supposedly it was pretty bad but I never saw it. Anyway for some reason he kept contacting some people at work including me. It's years ago. A lot of the others he contacted were indirectly making fun of him. "Still a psycho" "Still a weirdo" "Still something wrong up there" and they had a point. Still I don't even think he is mental ill by the definition. Just a frustrated omega loser that blew up once and does not have a whole lot of self-awareness. Point is never mention this at work. People misunderstand it, have no clue what it means or how to react it and treat you in the future. This leads to shaming, making fun and in general stigma.

Mental illnesses are are all on a fluid scale it's not 0 or 1. It's mostly you defining it as an illness. that's why a narcissist would never go for treatment or thinks he is mentally ill. That's also why acceptance is part of the solution. Accepting you are not perfect because nobody is.

EDIT: And there is also a important difference between telling it to someone once in a factual manner or constantly whine about it.

[–]Shakydrummer3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Was gonna type this but you explained it beautifully. Having a place to vent your shit is healthy, but it's time and place related and A LOT of people don't get that.

[–]circlhat17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

100% true, no one cares about your problems, but I find it interesting that women will use it as a dis qualifier, but not for them.

When I started dating I use to relate to women, and share stories and experiences. Turns out any negative experience as a turn off not all my experiences were negative.

I notice that when I had success stories, I would do better, but if something bad happen to me and I shared it, it would turn her off.

Example:

Girl: I Can't find a good man

Me: I can't find a good woman either, it's hard out here

After that she stop talking to me, so I changed it up

Girl: I Can't find a good man

Me: That's why you need a real man and not a boy

Girl: I know!!!

[–]loofy_goofy8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Any mental health problems is extremely stigmatized by most of the population. So keeping them to yourself is rational advice.

Some people are pretty ok and are ready to change something for someone close with mental health problems, some are not.

However if you have mental health problems and cohabitate then it probably would be impossible to hide them away.

Also psychiatric drugs choice is extremely long and painful process.

[–]PreOrgasmGroanLness0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Also psychiatric drugs choice is extremely long and painful process.

Could not fix the root cause. I had no problems with libido despite really low testosterone for 3 years (245ng/dL at age 22) so no meds helped me

[–]number12335625 points26 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

So True.

Full Disclosure:

Got married, was depressed. Wife stays at my side. After 1 and a half year of depression my SMV is rock bottom like -10.

Discover TRP and MTRP. Read the sidebar. Start Lifting. Get off medication. Depression is gone. SMV is still so low my wife fucking fucks me only when she is ovulating.

This stuff sticks. I were talking with my wife before about this stuff and she told me: "It is like taking care of a child. And this doesn't make me wanna have sex with you."

Conclusion

You don't want to be seen as a weak pathetic version of a man. There is no compassion by women for man. Just for children. If a woman has to care for you that's when your smv turns negative.

[–]Dat_Chad17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

"in sickness and in health, till death do you part"

riiiiight

[–]1GroundhogLiberator7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In her sickness, and your health.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I hear you, and I wish you best in improving your life in all areas, particularly your SMV. To be honest, though, it's not like as men we don't have some equivalent issues with women.

For most men, it doesn't matter how wonderful a person a given woman is--if she gets very fat, or starts PMSing big time, the desire to sleep with and relate to such a person--at least as a sexual partner, drops considerably. On a pure emotional level, I have ZERO feelings of compassion for women who are PMSing--because PMS is totally out of my realm of experience. They just look to me like people who are acting like bitches for no reason whatsoever. Of course I try to decide rationally what seems like a reasonable compromise between basic human decency and the need to place limits on obnoxious behavior that may result, but that's motivated more by ethics, and basic loyalty (to my wife at least). As a matter of fact I usually do a pretty good job, but it doesn't change the fact that their SMV, or at least relationship market value, temporarily drops in my eyes at that point in time.

Plenty of women, particularly in their 50s and above, simply can't pass the boner test with men, regardless of their personal value as human beings. They may hope that they will find a man to love them, perhaps some succeed, but the reality is that these men are not their fathers--they won't love them simply for existing. There usually has to be a reason, including loyalty carried over from years of marriage.

I don't know how good of a person your wife is (she seems pretty decent), but there definitely comes a time, especially in marriage, when basic loyalty is called for, and it looks like so far she is keeping up her end of the bargain, in spite of your perceived drop in SMV. You definitely want to keep up the self improvement--it can only be good for you overall on a mental and physical level, and will probably have a positive impact on the marriage.

[–]slay_it_forward7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Bluepill post of the day.

To sum what you said- "men are bad too!". No, men don't leave their wives when they're menstrating. Men are naturally much more loyal. The worst men genrally do is cheat when a sexual opportunity presents itself, but that indiscretion rarely impacts the quality of the relationship.

Conversely, when a woman cheats it was already over three months ago. Men don't leave their women in sickness, women routinely leave their ill men.

You're trying to draw a comparison where really there is none.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No fucking way man, that's a shitty summary of what I said. I gave myself as an example, and I don't believe I'm bad for having little sympathy for fatties or women on their periods. That's just the way it is. I'm just pointing out the reality, and as far as I can tell I'm not a dark triad male, just a normal person.

Listen drawing comparisons is not stating that two situations are equal. But people tend to make exaggerated claims on TRP about how good women have it compared to men--as if women hold all the cards, and men don't. I understand that they hold most, but exaggerating things can needlessly fuel the anger phase of swallowing the pill. Statements like this: "There is no compassion by women for man," make it sound like a man in a committed relationship is going to "be compassionate" when his wife starts hitting the wall, or that fatties in the sexual marketplace have more control over the dynamics in the sexual marketplace then they do. That's not true--he's not going to care about the fact that her self esteem or self worth is dropping, he's going to want her to stop hitting the wall. He may stay with her, but that's a different story: likely he'll grit and bear it, maybe get some side action. Is that "compassion," or a calculated attempt to maximize pleasure while avoiding divorce rape/estrangement from the kids?

[–]number123356-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My wife is really keeping up on her end.

At some point she couldn't take bare it anymore and had sleepovers by friends. Dude I never questioned it. I guess she was faithful.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Recently, I got to observe the life and death of a relationship an older female acquaintance of mine had.

Basically she met a man a few years older than her, that had a good job, and that she thought was handsome. At first she was really happy whenever he gave her any attention, and felt like she had quite the catch. She would brag about how great he was to her friends and there were even talks about "love" feelings.

Then one night at a nice dinner he was paying for, he told her he didn't feel comfortable going to a social party she wanted him to attend, because the people there were different than he was used to having to deal with, and he was struggling with some depression, and didn't want to put himself through the stress. Dumped.

The woman complained to me "It's frustrating that he hid that he had a depression problem from me, I wasted so much time! He was such a great guy, it's too bad that his head wasn't together, I don't need to deal with that sort of shit right now".

It was good for me to have this to re-enforce my AWALT knowledge. The woman who did this seemed to be a really generally good person, so I was a little surprised that she reacted that way.

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The woman who did this seemed to be a really generally good person, so I was a little surprised that she reacted that way.

It has nothing to do with being nice, and everything to do with self-preservation.

Let me put it this way: Would you date a girl who had had cancer before, and had 50-50 odds of getting it again? Of course not. No one wants to tie a stone around their necks, and see if they drown or not.

[–]Returnofthemack38 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sad but true. Nothing chases a woman off faster than mental illness. Even if you've dealt with their issues and they should 'understand' or have empathy, don't expect anything but negative results if you choose to express these things. Furthermore, learn to not deal with a woman's problems. I've learned that you should never help a woman get through her mental issues because quite frankly, she would never do the same for you (usually, saints exist but im not gonna account for that).

It's cold but that's the stance I take these days. I tell any girl with mental issues that she has to keep them to herself and/or get help, or she's nexted. No ifs or buts. Do not be a fucking sucker

[–]1empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great. That's simple give and take. If she's not giving you a good time by being depressed then that's her issue to deal with. And I've had some heavy depression. You can show them the way but you can't take them there.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Newcomers might think you're harsh but you're pretty much pointing out how everybody thinks but they will never ever blurt out because you'll just call them out.

Letting others know that you had depression or even suicidal tendencies raises all sorts of red flags. Share it only with your closest family members and maybe a childhood friend. End of fucking story.

[–]slay_it_forward3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not even close family members.

[–]Hail_Odins_Beard0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah this is hard to because then the family members take it as a thing THEY did wrong, and now you have to deal with your problems and the problems your family decideds to take from what you told them.

"Well it's my fault you want to kill yourself"

Well maybe, but you making me feel like I'm making you feel like garbage for it won't help at all

[–]TheHustlingWizard21 points22 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Nope. I held in my emotions due to past traumatic experiences for 15 years. It was OK for a decade but these last 5 years were brutal and I had a breakdown in February. I'm doing better now but mainly because I talk about what I'm going through.

I could give a fuck of people think I'm soft. It helps me and that's all that matters.

[–]number1233562 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

All mental health issues are weaknesses. There are three solutions to weaknesses: Solve them yourself; get professional help to solve them; or else hide them so well—and act counter to them at every opportunity so completely—that they eventually disappear.

You identified and executed. You solved the problem.

[–]Need2LickMuff12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You identified and executed. You solved the problem.

By talking to others about it.

[–]TheHustlingWizard0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Therapy, meditation and yes talking to those close to me about it.

[–]Need2LickMuff4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmfao some bitch ass actually downvoted you for contradicting the post content with your own experiences. Some people just REALLY want to believe that the only way for a man to act is like Conan the Barbarian.

It's fascinating how many people that post on TRP have a seemingly homoerotic fantasy about the ideal male.

[–]downregulated3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not sure how I ended here but I will comment. I've suffered from pychosis and that is fucked up. It might be a weakness but once the madness hits you there is no way out. No matter how strong you are. Yes pills can calm you down but there is no way person in such circumstances should be making kids or have best females. It's impossible. Mostly guys who have serious mental issues can never be alpha. And yes in the area where you live people will know and disrespect you and you can never have fruitful life. Mental problems are common and if you hide it you still have mental issue. Everyone no matter how strong can be broken under brutal life circumstances.I agree men should STFU about it and fix themselves. The problem still persists.

[–]Need2LickMuff2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My buddies all know I suffer from anxiety and they still trust me and hang out with me. Maybe don't tell everyone right away that you're suffering, but if they catch you slippin' and ask about it, and you feel up to sharing, there's nothing wrong with giving a brief statement about it. Worst case you'll get advice from your friends, though I'd agree not to share it with women (they won't say anything helpful anyway).

Another alfa male romance fantasy from another autist on TRP.

[–]Franklinstain2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great post. This is 100% truth.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Excellent post! Keep your mouth shut about it because no one gives a shit and will use it against you.

[–]billmurri5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Get the fuck over yourself dude.

[–]1z1z2x2x3c3c4v4v1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Question for OP:

What advice do you offer to the "self acknowledged" Autistic guys, who post on this and other Subs I follow? They clearly have social issues that, if bad enough, will indeed prevent them from ever having a meaning connection with girls, no matter how good the advice?

Some of these guys are desperate to meet girls.

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The best I can offer is, “Life isn't fair.”

That's a shitty response, but unfortunately, it's the truth.

Autistic guys will just have to work harder than non-autistic guys in order to get what they want out of life.

We all have issues affecting our fortunes, we all have different hands we have to play. Some guys are born with a straight flush, other guys are born with nothing and just have to bluff their way.

Autistics have to bluff their way.

Sorry I can't be more helpful, but bottom line, for serious problems, there's no magic cure or silver bullet.

[–]1OneRedYear3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

by meaningful connection do you mean putting their penis inside girls? Because that's the only meaningful connection they should really worry about at step one in the game.

[–]crackedlookinglass5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've had the benefit of two fathers in my life.

One is completely crippled by his flaws. A chronic beta that has no desire to fix himself because he is "To old to get back in shape."

The other is one of the formost experts in computer and network technologies in the world.

He says that the "Mental Illnesses" he suffers from make him the genius he is today.

"I don't suffer from mental health issues.

I am not afflicted with ADD. I am blessed with multifocal thinking.

I don't suffer from bipolar disorder. I am both passionate and a deep thinker."

Own your flaws. It's the first step in making them your strengths.

[–]slothsenpai1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm autistic, having initially went to special-ed up to the age of 11, having a speech therapist, being called a spastic, retard and handicap etc. And not being included in most social circles and had a lot of trouble fitting in. But even so, I absolutely refused to let it get me down. Yes, it'll be fucking tough (even when you reach that breaking point of despair, clouded by frustration and not seeing a ray of hope) but eventually, you get your lucky break. I managed to get a decent notch count a good few plates who've cooked for me and everything. We're all gonna make it!

[–]akolyteofthecentury1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

When I was 10 or so, my parents sent me to see a psychologist, as reccommended by my (mostly female / beta type) teachers.

Said psychologsit measured an above average IQ and told my parents that, apart from being high strung, there's nothing wrong but that they shoudl engage me more thoroughly. Didn't happen, so I unconciously channeled that energy to read and study shit. Not related to school, but what I wanted to learn about.

Shit grades all the way until the end of school, don't give a fuck. Noone does. Later the majority of my Teachers told me:"If only you wanted, you could achieve ..."- referring to the material ofc, but that sentence stuck with me. Found this place some odd years later.

If people today ask me whether I have AD(H)D (or accuse me of "suffering" from it), I keep my cool, tell them that I'm high strung and sometimes thank them for their inquiring about my mental health if up for fuckery.

Figuring out what I want to do and learing to channel said energy is tough, but very rewarding.

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[–]trptw points points [recovered] | Copy Link

One morning in college my then gf was crying because she struggled from depression and was feeling it kind of hard at that point in time. I tried to comfort her and she told me there's no way I could understand.

I revealed to her I had struggled with depressive episodes in the past, and heavily considered suicide at one point.

Her immediate response: "Why does every guy I date have problems with depression"

I laughed remembering this. I wish you weren't right but you are, OP

[–]slothsenpai1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I dunno, I reckon some girls can just about forgive mental health issues and autism if you're of high enough SMV. It's just part of the halo effect where girls have the "fix them" mentality for the high SMV guys as if they're misunderstood (in a cute kinda way) whereas low SMV dudes with the same disorders are looked at as vermin.

[–]Scandinavianredpill1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No shit mental issues are weaknesses. And yeah weaklings are not suppose to lead so thankfully we are wired not to follow wierdos.

[–]Conceited-Monkey2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If you have one of these problems, whatever you do get professional help. Take the pills, do the treatment. But, I would recommend against sharing the news. Most people do not understand mental illness and view it as a character defect.

[–]slay_it_forward1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It is a defect. Your brain isn't working properly. Or your gut isn't working properly. 90% of your serotonin comes from your gut. If someone's heart isn't working it's defective. It's no different with mental illness except how the symptoms manifest.

And pills are not always the answer. They can help if things get really rough for a period of time but they aren't a long term solution.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Mostly true. Saw a "Godly" woman divorce her husband (even after writing all of these blog posts of how "I can't wait to see what God has in store for my hubby!") because of his mental illness.

Women, understandably, get tired of that stuff, fast.

[–]slay_it_forward7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Understandably? They will claim the opposite until they're blue in the face, but as always, watch what they do, not what they say.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, understandably. Women need men to protect them. When the shit hits the fan, it is men that step in to fix things or ward off an attacker.

Back in the day, being with a weak man could mean death in times of crisis.

[–]elcarlosmiguel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

this is true dont know why youre being downvoted

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

PTSD can be utilized, still has drawbacks. I tell girls slut gagging it when I want to get rid of them. It's the scary one to them, shit now that I control it I don't get speeding tickets.

[–]AnonymousAndLovinIt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great post. Always opt to suffer in silence.

I would say that there is one exception, though, and that it is necessary. Your best friend(s). Those relationships where there is mutual trust and respect. They can help you when problems get too much. But keep in mind there is a limit, they can and very likely will slowly lose respect for you, so don't treat them like emotional tampons. Keep your troubles to yourself by default.

[–]FTFSM0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Keep it to yourself depending on the situation. I didn't have depression or anything serious, but went through some shit years ago and elected to talk to a counselor.

Last year a female co-worker revealed having some issues and revealed suicidal idealization. Didn't want to go to a therapist for fear of being judged. Told her about my experience and now she's seeking help and on meds.

Would I have talked about it with a girlfriend or girl I'm trying to date? No. But to someone I'm not interested in who I felt could help? Yes.

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Would I have talked about it with a girlfriend or girl I'm trying to date? No. But to someone I'm not interested in who I felt could help? Yes.

Absolute agree, and good that you spoke to your coworker.

[–]mrgoodcat19900 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is why suicide is the number one killer of males and why the military has such a high suicide rate. Our little bubble ay

[–]Hullucinate-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I really doubt anyone fantasizes about being raped by a nazi in a SS uniform

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You'd be surprised. Ever seen “Cabaret”?

[–]Patam2470 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy Link

What about talking about it when it's already in the past? For example:

her: Have you ever felt depressed? I did feel depressed one year ago, but I fixed it by doing x. It's no issue now, and it won't be in the future because of y

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 19 points20 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Her: Have you ever felt depressed.

You: Yes, once. When the Pirates didn't make the post-season in 2005.

That is the one and only response you can make to such a question.

A Russian girl once explained it to me perfectly: Women want men of stone.

Men of stone don't get depressed, period.

[–]pherislore points points [recovered] | Copy Link

Fuck these Russian wenches. They basically want a harder, tougher version of their fathers. I've dealt with this. Would rather take an average in-bred English girl here in London than try another Russian with uber-delusional entitlement. If it weren't for all these dumb fuck guys who keep feeding the monster perhaps these hoes would ease off on the entitlement.

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I live in London as well, and I love my Russian princesses! They demand I be a man—which I love. Because sometimes, you need someone around who expects you to be the best version of yourself.

Treat a Russian princess like a whore, act like a stone-cold alpha, she'll be your ride-or-die-bitch-4-life. I am currently experiencing such a wonderful relationship, so I believe I know whereof I speak.

[–]pherislore points points [recovered] | Copy Link

I know where you're coming from. Difference is that I'm not willing to put up with the expectations of Russian/Former Soviet women that I've been with. Being a man/stone-cold alpha is one thing. But some of the expectations they have is that of a father. I'm not and will never be their father.

But sounds like you got a good thing going, brah. All the best! Go savage.

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks! And btw, you're absolutely right that they all want a father-plus figure. But I don't mind, I find it makes them a lot more predictable.

[–]M1ster_X0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I never thought of it this way. I'm currently plating a Russian girl now...I'll have to keep this in mind.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

My god, you're such an autistic asshole

[–]slay_it_forward-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

How did I know you were going to being a computer coding, 1 plate bench pressing pussy LOL.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why admit? What possible benefit to answering her questions?

[–]1lonewolf10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Too be honest it is a weakness but it is something that cannot be helped I've suffered from depressed social anxiety and was diagnosed with paranoid personally disorder. I know most women will look down upon but if you could find one women who will support you and help you through it that would go a long way, I guess you got it look at it as any other medical problem it can't be helped and the people who choose to make you feel inferior about it are not worth the time.

[–]EastrnCowboy-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Needed to read this tough love post today. Pumped me the fuck up.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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