MetaWhy I Made True Freedom My Goal In Life (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Coach-Red-Pill

You’ve probably noticed that a lot of young men want to be alpha at all costs—without asking themselves why they want to be so alpha.

They want to get every girl, be admired by every man. They want to earn all the money, have all the toys. They want to dominate every room they enter, be the top dog in every show.

But these guys rarely ask themselves why they want to be at the top of every heap. Why is it that they want to win every contest. Why do they want to bang every girl. Why do they want every man to admire them.

Because aspiring to something without a reason is foolish. You have to have a sense of what sort of life you want to live. If you don’t, then you won’t know what’s important—which battles to fight—and what is unimportant—which battles to ignore or walk away from. You’ll fight all your battles with equal intensity—and likely wind up losing them all.

You have to decide what you want.

In my own case, when I was around 24 or so, I consciously decided that what I wanted was true freedom.

By “true freedom”, I mean to be independent of government, of my peers, of any societal norm. I didn’t want to be rich—I wanted to not be beholden to anyone or any thing. I wanted to be able to do what I wanted, without anything holding me back, without anyone telling me what I could or could not do. I wanted to be able to say whatever I wanted, without being worried about how my words might affect my position. I wanted to be able to think whatever I wanted, without being worried that a simple thought might hurt me or set me back.

True freedom. And I remember the moment when I decided that this was what I wanted above all else.

It was 1992. I was working at a law firm in D.C., a fairly prestigious one, as a project assistant. This was nothing more than being a glorified clerk—but it gave me a lot of insights into what the reality of being a white-shoe lawyer would be like. I was thinking of taking the LSAT and going into law. So I was basically assaying a possible life—which was why I paid attention to the goings on inside the firm.

There was a partner at the firm, whose name I have forgotten. He was the lead attorney for a fairly large insurance company—so of course, this partner did very well. The rumor was he pulled in several million a year—and this was back in 1992.

He was also a powerful man within the firm. Early on, it was made clear to me that if this partner called, I’d better jump. I saw associate attorneys—as well as junior partners, or partners with less seniority—jump sky-high whenever this partner glanced their way.

I got the picture. Whenever he turned my way, I jumped.

That summer, this partner was supposed to travel to Europe on vacation with his family. It was his first family vacation in over ten years—his wife and kids put a lot of planning into the trip.

As I keep saying, this was 1992. There was no consistent cell phone network in Europe, yet. So for the four weeks of his vacation, he had a list of every single place he was going to be at, plus the phone number. I saw this document: Neatly typed, each page was a day, and there was a list of every restaurant, every hotel, and every tourist spot he was going to visit with his family. At no time was he more than 10 minutes away from a phone. And this was the summer, when the judicial system goes to sleep and everything slows down.

But the big client, the insurance company . . . it had a big case that was active, even though there was nothing pressing. Still, the Big Client got nervous, what with their big bad law firm partner away on vacation in faraway Europe.

So . . .

So they told the partner that they didn’t feel “comfortable” with him being away for so long.

So the partner canceled the vacation.

That’s when I realized that the partner was a slave. He drove a fancy BMW, he had a big house in Maryland, he had a beach house in South Carolina, he wore $1,000 suits and $2,000 shoes, he could have me and 100 other people at the firm jumping up and down on one leg, if he wanted, but . . . he was a slave, as beholden to his client as if he’d been wearing an iron collar and chains.

When I heard that he had actually canceled on the vacation, I realized what I did not want to be—no matter what.

I realized that I’d prefer to be dirt poor and begging for food money, than to be a slave like that.

Since that moment, everything I’ve tried to do or accomplish has been in service of being truly free. I don’t have any Big Client whose ass I have to suck, I do whatever I want whenever I want it, I sleep with whomever I want, and live wherever I want. Say whatever I want, and think whatever I want. I am truly free.

By knowing exactly what I want out of life, I've also saved myself a lot of energy, and saved myself from needless aggravation: I’ve only ever been “alpha” when I needed to be alpha. I’ve known which battles to fight, which ones to safely ignore, and which ones to walk away from.

I think it’s necessary to develop yourself, lift weights, read books that matter, eat right, maintain your appearance—all of it. But once you’ve gotten to that state, I think it’s crucial to know what do you want from life: What kind of life do you want to lead. You have to know what you’re applying your red pill insights in order to achieve.

Everything is a tool, and red pill wisdom is no exception: It is a tool, but it can’t determine what kind of life you lead. Only you can.

TL;DR: It’s necessary to apply red pill insights to your life, but you need to consciously decide what kind of life you want to lead, so that you don’t wind up fighting battles you don’t need to.

Coach Red Pill

[–][deleted] 150 points151 points  (33 children)

A piece of good advice for you my friend - because I think you have a nice writing style and post good insights into certain topics - there used to be a Guy who posted on here all the time called 'Captain Cringeworthy' and he had a second account called 'RPTruthe' - now he posted good stuff too - but he posted mostly things that were considered derivative to the Subreddit's main-stays and too abstract for the new-comers.

It got to a point where the Mods had to ban him because people complained - he's not been back since - though he was a total faker, I know you're not.

Point being; don't let a good thing turn bad by over-exposing your brand, I see you posting on here a fair bit and it will sour people to you if you post multiple times in a day or several times a week.

[–][deleted] 82 points83 points  (2 children)

This reflects the decaying state of trp subreddit. Posts like this are soul food for those truly following the path of reality and self improvement. If this posts triggers new users cause they're literally too stupid or on a non-spiritual, 'bang all the women because I have no self worth' path, then fuck those guys. If the mods ban solid posters because faggets like that complain this sub is truly off trp path and should die. It would be the natural way, after all.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I think you've got me wrong.

I was trying to say, in a diplomatic way and with a solid example of a previous user (who was a faker - lied about everything, demonstrably), that the Mods and other users don't like prolific contributers and, because I like CRP, I wanted to warn him that he might like to cool it off a bit rather than risk getting banned.

He's had some pretty salty comments from some people on other threads already.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Oh I got ya. Yeah, makes sense I guess. Anonymity is the way to go round these parts.

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 49 points50 points  (18 children)

Good to know. Thanks for the advice.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 37 points38 points  (8 children)

I also remember giving you advice that would ensure the longevity of your stay at Red Pill. Here's a hint it rymes with:

Shtart Shmifting Shweights

[–]yallapapi 29 points30 points  (0 children)

9/10 posts on here:

  1. Start with an anecdotal story about a time some girl broke your heart
  2. End with tldr: AWALT and lift
  3. Enjoy circle jerk

Bonus points if you manage to use 2000 words

Nice to see more well written content

[–]pmmedenver 12 points13 points  (0 children)

No! Don't lift weights. It lowers my value by increasing supply in a market with a constant demand. Be a man who doesn't value strength because "whats the point", move to Denver (increasing real estate prices) and talk about how oppressed the modern female is. True love is out there lads you just have to beg hard enough. Really get down your knees and start licking boot.

[–]11bbpw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you give a link to your t-shirts? Thanks!

[–]I_AM_CALAMITY 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly. Somehow this guy gets hundreds of upvotes with a hamster that works out more than he does

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (8 children)

You are welcome. I honestly would not want to see you banned.

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 13 points14 points  (7 children)

How often do you think would be advisable to post on this subreddit.

[–]iamabrokenbanjo 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Plenty. I like your posts. They're insightful. Don't over advertise your stuff but the subtle hints at your YT channel are fine. I'd be pissed if they banned you from this sub because your posts are good primers for the day to day. But that's just me.

[–]_MysticFox 17 points18 points  (0 children)

[–]yallapapi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Post as much as you want as long as you have something to say that adds to the community. Some people will like your content but there will always be haters that try to take a shit on you for saying anything other than "awalt" and "lift"

I think your posts add a bit of perspective from an older guy who does trp. Haven't watched your videos but it seems like you know your shit. Decent writer as well.

Honestly I think that may intimidate some people here. Might consider talking about a time where you slipped up, or a mistake you made or something like that instead of trying to appear bulletproof. I understand the temptation to market yourself as a coach who has all the answers. But everyone makes mistakes and if you never mention them then people begin to dislike/distrust you.

[–]Party_Olive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd go for once a week and lower the frequency as your brand and rep grows. Your posts are high quality and insightful, unlike Captain Cringeworthy who was spamming the forum with dozens of regurgitative posts over a weekend.

The most notorious RP posters here (Gaylube, Rollo, etc,) rarely post threads, and I'm sure the majority of people on this subreddit click their articles when they've come up with something worth posting.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably not more than 3 times a week but it depends on how relevant you feel the thing you want to talk about is - I am not an authority obviously, feel free to ignore me if the comments are receptive enough and the Mods are OK with it.

It must seem like I'm concern trolling but really I just wanted to bring the possibility of banning to your attention - it does happen.

[–]Subbs 17 points18 points  (8 children)

You know not to suck your dick or anything but you seem masterful at giving constructive criticism without offending someone. Your message, which is completely right, could be said in so many ways that would immediately put someone on the defensive yet the way you said it it just couldn't.

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Agree. I bet /u/Throwawaytodaytfp could tell someone to fuck off—but in such a way that they walk away with a smile!

Cheers, /u/Throwawaytodaytfp, and thanks again for your pointers.


[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Thanks chief!

Were you familiar with the Captain at all?

[–]Subbs 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Not him in particular but I know the feeling. You make a post, it gets popular and the validation makes you want to put out more and more right up until you start reaching and posting vague shit that contributes nothing.

It's not even that when you start massively posting your content will inevitably get bad but going all "well guess I'm posting every thought I've ever had" is bound to produce at the very least some bad content that'll make people dismiss you entirely after a while.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

OK so go to the Search Bar and Type In "Do you read The Red Pill" and locate the one submitted by Captain Cringeworthy.

Dude was hilarious, used to basically read the side bar ad infinitum and post derivative shit off it several times a day using the CC and his alt account.

Couple of guys noticed something was up and rumbled him, which led to him doing it even more up until the point the mods had to ban him.

He was completely fake, an incel apparently, still lived with parents and yet wrote these lavish field reports about banging HB10's and shit.

[–]Subbs 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Holy shit that writing's painfully long to go through. Kinda sad though, if the guy has enough focus to dream up such an elaborate fantasy he could really do some good using it to work on himself.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The comments on that particular one are gold.

He might have had mental health problems, maybe Autism or some other high-functioning disorder. Guy had laser-like focus when writing.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That "Do you read the Red Pill" post was the most deranged piece of fiction I have ever read. Then he made that idiotic post about day gaming a HB10 and asking for advice on his next move. I used to PM Captain Cringeworthy and try and get the guy to stop. It was an addiction for him. I am glad the mods banned him, it was for his own good. I am sure he is much happier now.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ironic - you are one of the 'couple of guys' I was thinking about, along with RedditAdminsSuck.

There was a certain child-like glee and boastfulness in how he wrote that particular post that made it seem like some weird blog entry rather than a real event, and as you say, he gave it away at the end by playing the master and then becoming the fool.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What the hell kind of policing is this?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, I'm already at the point where I see this dudes post and I automatically click out. Brand exposure is okay, but when overly branded it takes much away from the content.

[–]HeyN0ngMan 25 points26 points  (9 children)

Early 20s me would agree with you. Late 20s me kind of disagrees. I do very well at my job, I do have bosses, I guess i'm a slave. Granted I have a lot more freedom than the guy you described. Regardless, being poor fucking sucks. You can be a slave to money if you don't know how to make your money work for you. The freedom money has brought me is incredible. It's not everything, but it funds the things i love to do.

[–]smilemore_48 points points [recovered]

If you work 30-40 hours a week doing something you don't love than you are a slave. I'm a slave.

I will point out that the major difference between a rich person and a poor person is that the rich person can buy more expensive toys and rich people are typically slaves to materialism.

Truth be told the most intrinsically valuable things and skills in life are either cheap or free.

The happiest people also tend to be the poorest (monks, artists, and so on).

[–]HeyN0ngMan 4 points5 points  (5 children)

The majority of the world is poor. The majority of the world is unhappy. The majority of the world are not monks.

[–]smilemore_48 points points [recovered]

How do you know that most poor people are not happy? I've met happy poor people and miserable rich people and vice versa. The people with lot's of money have always come off as more miserable and rude to me as a whole though.

I've befriended monks and they are as poor as poor comes as they are not allowed to handle money and are devoid of most pleasures yet most are extremely content and happy.

[–]HeyN0ngMan 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I've also met a lot of happy poor people and I've met miserable rich people as well. Having money can relieve certain stresses in life which in turn makes you a happier person. I know it goes against a certain narrative ("rich people are all miserable assholes!") but it's just not the case. Here's just one example, I can provide more studies if you'd like. http://www.businessinsider.com/study-shows-money-can-buy-happiness-2015-1

Edit: also using monks as an example of happy poor people is a little ridiculous considering, once again, that most poor people are not monks.

[–]smilemore_48 points points [recovered]

I agree with you that having money can relieve certain stresses. I agree with your last statement as well, I was just pointing out that money is not necessary to be happy if your lifestyle (IE, being a monk) requires no money.

[–]HeyN0ngMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I completely agree with you.

[–]Roaring40sUK 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You are pretty much working your way through Maslows Hierachy... You arent poor, check. You have a standard of living, check. You feel belonging and able to do the things you want to, check.

But.. you might find that after a while, this isnt enough, and you get stuck at the next level and it will be at that point you start to think "Is this it?". You may then start to feel like a slave.

Its all levels..

[–]HeyN0ngMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get that that's how it sounds. I've learned to find joy in more than just material shit. If I lost my job and standard of living I'd still be okay. I'd do something else. I'd live a different way.

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (5 children)

Wasn't it Diogenes who said the free-est people in a society is the elites and the beggars, everybody else is a slave?

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Don't remember that, but it's pretty accurate, don't you think?

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

If i remember rightly, he considered hierarchy not to be a straight line up but a horse shoe and at either end, at the highest point was the richest and the poorest, everybody else beneath.

Kinda makes you feel sad for the middle class with that thought process

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I agree, which is why I think aiming to be an elite is the only practical option. Noone aims to be a beggar. At least if you reach for the top, even if you do not make it all the way there you have climber the ladder. It is a dangerous thing in here to preach that it is important to chase money for two reasons. Firstly, most people will fail so you have the crab bucket problem. Second, those who instinctively know they will fail (80+%) will scream "beta bucks", as though it is impossible to be alpha and rich (tell that to Putin, Trump, Mike Tyson and Duane Johnson).

[–]ChadThundercockII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Diogene was so badass that another badass man wanted to be like him.

[–]writewhereileftoff 54 points55 points  (6 children)

He was a slave because he had no engame like financial independance in mind. The man is just another consumer only the toys are bigger.

Lifestyle creep can do that to you.

[–]_TheRP 18 points19 points  (4 children)

This is exactly it. With a few million in the bank, you can be pretty damn free. Not free like OP is talking about - which I would argue isn't freedom at all - but financially secure to the point that you can take care of yourself in 99.9% of scenarios.

That's freedom.

Being broke isn't freedom, it's just self limiting. This would be like defining the world as your own home and never going outside because you've already seen the whole world.

[–]Gettingaware 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Ops point is to become self-sufficient and self-reliant, and not bound by social conventions.

If one can produce their own wealth, is capable of making wise decisions on their own behalf, doesnt need to take from others, nor slave to any relationships. then they can take care of themsleves in any scenario.

Dont get me wrong, i strive for both, freedom, and financial success. I work a shitty job, and more than anything, i would love to someday invent something great, or start my own business and become a multi millionare.

But in no way is material wealth the same as being emotionally or intellectually free.

How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World

for anyone who likes reading, this goes way more in depth than what OP talks about, but it is the same message, to unchain yourself from bad habits, reationships, thoughts, and things of the like that keep you from attaining true self reliance.

[–]_TheRP 3 points4 points  (1 child)

We are a social animal. There is no way to live entirely outside of social structures. In fact, you're best off learning how to live within social structures and abuse them for your own gain.

That's the entire point of The Red Pill.

[–]Gettingaware 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You are best learning how to live within social structures, and exploiting, depending on if thats what your goals call for. If not, then i really dont see the reason other than because you choose to follow social conventions, which isnt ever necessary .

I agree human beings are social animals, but tell me, how someone who maintains the two most important pillars of self esteem; self reliance, and self efficiency, would be anything other than capable of social human interactions. Besides that, it would be on their own terms, and they would be willing to walk away whenever they see fit, or plainly put, they would be controlling who and to what degree they allow others into their life, if thats not alpha, its at least a very practical trait.

Furthermore from the 48 laws of power, here are some i feel being truly independent fall under.











Some may be a stretch but i leave it to your interpetations.

Honestly i know im just talking theory right now so none of this really matters, but ive thought long and hard about this sorta thing,i know people arent suppose to be like this, but there are very few individuals who work for this sort of lifestyle, i want to be one of the few who are seen as an idealist, an independent, a sigma male.

[–]jewishsupremacist88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this. times 3406. pretty much sums up the director/managerial level class in corporate america and wall st. most of these people are just trying to keep up with the jones. alot of them are broke

[–]nasil_boyle_superim 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I understand on your point of view most of jobs are "being slave". So what job did you take after realizing that? You went to mountain and earn your life with chopping woods or sth?

[–]grewapair 33 points34 points  (5 children)

I disagree. That guy could retire at age 50 with over $20M in the bank and spend the next ten years traveling around the world, spending $1M per year. Then, when he returned, he'd have in remaining savings the equivalent of a $500,000 per year salary ($300K after taxes) for the next 30 years.

The whole trick is not to let your lifestyle creep up to your income. I can assure you, there's no woman on the planet who would ever allow this, so the trick is don't get married and you can be set for life.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

You see how you made the decision based on your own desire of outcome? That's freedom... Playing the game doesn't mean you're a slave, investing in the game with no awareness that your soul belongs to the game is what makes you a slave.

[–]tallwheel 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That will work out great for him as long as he doesn't get hit by a bus at 49.

[–]count_bratula 19 points20 points  (0 children)

As someone working in an top consulting firm, this story rings true for me as well! Partners, and even Sr Partners, despite all the money they make, have only as much freedom as their client allows.

[–]hardly_incognito 17 points18 points  (9 children)

The 23 year old me is going through what the 24 year old you went through.

I've groomed myself for med school, only to realize when graduating with my med-bio degree at the top of the class that I don't want to be a well-paid slave. Not knocking doctors, but it's not for me.

Now my mind is spinning with what to do, but I keep pushing forward. My foundation is strong: excellent body, diet is coming together, overall healthy habits. Fixing my style is my last hurdle. Then from there, what's left?

We spend so much time building ourselves, creating that foundation, getting that degree, or even that job title, but for what? I've been reading Antifragile, and I've got to say, it's shattering my concepts of how to live life.

Advocating chaos, no goals, not being enslaved to the modern system... of course I don't agree entirely, some foundational goals are key (lift regularly, eat regularly, consistent waking times, read often, practice your hobby often, etc.) , but falling into the pattern of living life the same, each and every damn day... Jesus Christ that's my biggest fear!

I'm a bit lost now in life, with many things, but I'm also happy because I choose happiness. This is my time to find my freedom, much as you found yours, and I won't squander it.

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 11 points12 points  (6 children)

You're at the perfect age to take a year off and travel. It did wonders for me, maybe it'll help you out. And a lost year in your early 20's means nothing in the overall scheme of your life. Don't jump into some job or degree program because you have to, but because you want to. And if you need a year to decide, take it, you'll be fine.

Just my 2¢.

[–]1dongpal 2 points3 points  (5 children)

what does a year travel even look like? do you just fly somewhere and pay a hotel every day ?

[–]reiduh 4 points5 points  (4 children)

No, you utilize all those connections from undergrad/grad school to stay with past acquaintances across the country/world, for relatively nothing (buy a nice dinner or bring over a decent bottle of wine).

Maybe the occasional splurge for a flight here/there, but otherwise relatively inexpensive.

My twin and his wife purchased a van and friggin' lived in it for over a year, bouncing from one climbing spot to the next.

YMMV. Keep it simple.

[–]1dongpal 1 point2 points  (3 children)

i still dont get it. what connection? foreign people? when they fly back you ask them if you can stay at their home if you travel there some day? if you say travel you mean between different countries so you see different cultures right? so from germany to france for few weeks, then to italy for few weeks and so on. since you talk about travel for a year this means you some how manage to pay for sleep and food somewhere. but how and isnt it expensive??

[–]reiduh 1 point2 points  (2 children)

all those connections from undergrad/grad school

This is presuming you had friends in school that you'd like to keep up with.
Helps to if you offer to host them when they're in your town (i.e. an actual friendship).

[–]1dongpal 0 points1 point  (1 child)

still no real answer for all the important questions i asked

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hostels are cheap, long term airbnb rentals are much cheaper than hotels, couchsurfing, house sitting. There's volunteering, teaching Englishm, programs where you can live with families in various countries. Many countries are peanuts to live in and flights are much cheaper when you on a different continent.

[–]General_Shou 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We spend so much time building ourselves, creating that foundation, getting that degree, or even that job title, but for what?

I'd say working towards financial independence is a worthwhile endeavor - building your assets up so that you have enough passive income and savings to not give a fuck about your job/boss/money/etc. How long it takes to do that is up to you. Typically, low risk/low stress route will take 30-50 years. High risk/high stress you could do it in 10-20, if not sooner.

[–]Mr-Ed209 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I recommend taking some time out.

Let me chime in from the 'other path' - I'm only 2 years older than you so please don't take this as a 'listen here my son' speech.

At 21 I was at a crossroads to study medicine post graduate after finishing a biomed undergrad. I hated the idea of life being planned out for the next 7+ years but it was also what I dreamt of doing since I was a teenager. I hadn't 'lived' and the idea of entering such a profession felt way too soon.

After graduation I ended up doing a ski season on a whim with some old high school friends (who just did that sort of thing by chance). 3 years later I've lived and worked in 4 countries and earned experience working and managing people. As well as sleeping with/ getting heartbroken by Australian and Canadian girls. I've stayed up 30hrs drinking and taking 'substances' just to get laid and have a good time Things I never would/could have experienced if I followed my nice STEM education route. It was great. I was 22 with the awareness to know that it is what I 'should' be experiencing.

Partying/travelling is great but it absolutely has an expiration. As an educated person I'm sure you will reach the same conclusion, but that's not to say it's a very fucking fun lesson to learn. I've lived for 3 years working average jobs but spending all my free time doing what I love. Snowboarding and 'socialising'. I've learned the benefits of being selfish at work to make the best of a situation and im now in a place where im 'chomping at the bit' to get into corporate medical sales and earn good money. Have a dope apartment in a cool city is my next goal. We'll see where that takes me.

[–]Lsegundo 12 points13 points  (1 child)

there was a list of every restaurant, every hotel, and every tourist spot he was going to visit with his family. At no time was he more than 10 minutes away from a phone.

How sad and pathetic that he couldn't just say "Ill get any messages when I get back to my hotel at night then call you in the morning."

Its even more pathetic that after so many years of making insane money he didn't have fuck you money in the bank.

You should have called this post "The million dollar loser"

[–]ThedragonCarnage 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And how to achieve true freedom?

[–]menial_optimist 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That's why the next time you see a guy step out of a BMW with $500 lizard shoes on, remember that you're not getting the full picture. That man could be a slave. Any time you are dependent on anyone or any system you are enslaved.

This is why independent contracting is so great. When two parties contract with one another they are equals. When you're on payroll, you're owned.

[–]Novembercriminal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So... how did you do it???? Good read now I wanna know

[–]Everybodypoopsalot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One of the better posts ive read on here. Best post ive read in a while. Would like to here what life you built, in a coherent way that followed that insight amd how.

[–]1OneRedSock 3 points4 points  (7 children)

I don't think this premise is entirely sound. Even with the knowledge you have of all the events, that still doesn't give you the whole picture. We have no idea of how much he enjoys work compared to a trip with his family, and I don't think a man like that would particularly hate work. People who reach that level usually put in the kind of effort that the majority of people can't even fathom. Most of those high power type of guys have a highly competitive, hard-ass attitude. They're striving to be the best not simply for the pay but to beat out the next son of a bitch. It's not simply a job for them, it's a life career.

Additionally, The other side to the fact that the client didn't want him to leave directly correlates to his worth to them. And that certainly has huge meaning. While people always talk about how hard it is to get some time off, that is actually a good sign for your worth to your company. I would be more worried if my company said I could take a day or two off whenever with little notice - that means I'm easily replaceable.

Being a high value man means they find it hard to operate without you around, because the value you bring to the company is easily apparent. If your company says "we really need you here" you can either think: "damn I'm a slave" or "I am recognized for my value to the company".

Now, some people would see that as validation seeking, but in my experience the value in life comes from the burdens you carry honorably through life. That means creating yourself as a high value man, and when you're high value you have to make tough decisions - like whether you can go on that vacation or not.

[–]Roaring40sUK 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Being a high value man means they find it hard to operate without you around, because the value you bring to the company is easily apparent.

Think of it this way, a plough horse was a very high value asset to a farmer.. was the plough horse free? Did he have the most fulfilled life? No, he was valued based on his economic value to the farmer.

Thinking you are high value and thinking you are free are not the same.

[–]JlmmyButler 0 points1 point  (1 child)

i love you more than you will ever know my friend

[–]1OneRedSock 0 points1 point  (1 child)

To clarify, I am not at all saying high value and freedom go hand in hand; I am definitely saying the opposite: that being high value will be dichotomous with the ability to freely leave at any moment without the company putting pressure on you. And that's a line we all walk: between our personal freedoms and our value to society (or in this case, the company).

And I think the analogy of the plough horse is not appropriate, as the horse does not have any choice in the matter. The man did have a choice, and he chose to stay; now, the extent of his ability to choose could have been restricted, but ultimately he made a choice. So that, in itself, says a lot; however, we have no idea about his internal dialogue and the exact reason why he chose to stay. Instead, we have a 3rd party account and we draw our own conclusions, which could be totally misguided. For all we know the lawyer's choice to stay could be more fulfilling to him than a vacation with his wife and kids. We simply don't know.

[–]Roaring40sUK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that's a line we all walk

Yes, that is totally true. I agrre with you. I think its about the choices and balance we make so that we feel as free as we can. Or at least are working towards that freedom.

I used the plough horse analogy because I think it is very fitting. If you think all men in the corporate arena have a choice, watch "Company Men" for a glimpse at how shackled you can feel with a big mortgage, kids, cars etc..

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

I disagree.

You are certainly right that the value of a man depends on the people who depend on him—family, employees, etc. All these relationships are freely undertaken by a man, so he is certainly responsible to them. But then, he chose those obligations. Which is different.

But to be enslaved by a client? No, that's slavery.

Just my viewpoint, just my 2¢.

[–]1OneRedSock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, and I certainly appreciate the ability to have a conversation about differing view points.

I am just concerned that the level of analysis is maybe not as deep as it could go. I mentioned in another response that freedom and value to society is a dichotomous relationship, and a line we all must walk individually.

And I certainly agree he chose some obligations, which I think makes it easy to infer that he perhaps enjoys those obligations. Not necessarily with a big smile all the time, but he derives some meaning from these obligations.

I certainly don't think your conclusion is inherently wrong, I am just offering an alternative concept to the story as we are all still just operating on a 3rd party viewpoint, and have no idea of the man's specific reasoning. We are only deriving our own conclusions from a certain frame of reference, which is not perhaps operating on the full truths of the situation.

[–]Praecipuus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good content, once again. Same for you youtube channel. You got yourself a new subscriber.

Keep going.

[–]bkk123 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Life is about compromises for most guys.

Only trustfund kids can enjoy riches with reckless abandon, while your average biz owner (including me) needs to be reachable for clients, albeit usually not in such extreme ways.

I don't mind though, as I live in South East Asia, am a top 10% income earner locally, no femnazis here, no young girls with nasty attitudes either or man hating middle aged women.

Having tons of responsibilities only becomes a problem when you're living somewhere where there's nothing in it for you in generating value for other people (the west these days for most guys) or if you're really working 24/7. I rarely take holidays (no need for such escapism here) and being reachable during the week during business hours is sufficient for my clients.

[–]b44rt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

True freedom comes at a financial cost, when you are poor you are very limited in your possibilities. Traveling costs money, eating costs money having a place costs money. I soley agree that truefreedom should be any man's endgame but to really go where you want whenever you want you need to get rich.

[–]reecewagner 2 points3 points  (15 children)

I'm trying to think of a tactful way to say this but there isn't one - I can't take much of what you say seriously since following the link to your YouTube profile. You clearly don't lift, you're a pleasantly articulate but shlubby and balding middle-aged man, and you're determined to shove your wealth of "knowledge" down the throats of everyone on this forum. You mentioned in one of your umpteen previous posts that you only date women under 25 - I'd seriously love to know what women under 25 are throwing themselves at you, because unless they're absolute stock wildebeests, I don't believe it for an instant.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Fundamentally he's only doing what the rest of us do, it's just that he's got a Youtube channel too so he's more visible.

It's a shame if he doesn't Lift and it's regrettable that he's not young with a vital appearance (I haven't seen the dude, just going off your description) but it doesn't mean he doesn't have good knowledge or can't share great advice.

There have been far worse commentators on here, homey-dude is alright.

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

homey-dude is alright.


Thanks! And drop by my YT channel whenever.


[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You mentioned in one of your umpteen previous posts that you only date women under 25 - I'd seriously love to know what women under 25 are throwing themselves at you, because unless they're absolute stock wildebeests, I don't believe it for an instant.

Ask /u/GayLubeOil if I'm lying. I spoke with him via Skype just a few days ago.

[–]reiduh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Coach carries himself well, dresses sharp, has a flat in London, and doesn't put up with bullshit.
I'd imagine he's crawling with a certain type of young twenty-something puss.
And good for him. I think all the "he's ugly" is just hate/jealousy.

Who cares if they're just fucking him for the FEELS or his MONEY — he clearly doesn't give a fuck.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 3 points4 points  (7 children)

I saw his lady via Skype and she was not a wildebeest. That being said the economy is pretty dicey so there could be a financial motive to hang out with intelligent articulate suit man.

[–]reecewagner 0 points1 point  (5 children)

In your opinion, is this a guy that walks the talk?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Obviously intellectualy there is a lot of potential. He has a lot of value to contribute.

Our generation of 20 year olds is rebelling against his generation of 50 year olds softer definition of masculinity with a hard-line reactionary masculinity. In order for him to stick around he is going to have to put himself through considerable physical and mental suffering in the gym and adopt our definition of masculinity. While unpleasant this process will be beneficial especially for someone who grew up in White collar land.

On the other hand the longer he procrastinates the longer the dick waving will continue in the comments. Dick waving has a tendency to inspire more dick waving which is why I would like to heavily encouraged him to get on it before our userbase's opinion crystalizes and the turd throwing begins.

[–]reecewagner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol the euphamisms.

I shouldn't hate, I'm not a contributor. There's just something about a guy setting up multiple cameras to film himself waxing poetic about his breadth of RP knowledge that seems needlessly masturbatory given the context.

[–]Blekpill points points [recovered]

Could you elaborate more on these 50 year olds' definition of masculinity? My father is in his mid 50s, businessman and this is a little eye-opening because he seems to be in some weird spot between alpha and beta and handles things differently than I see the redpill vets doing here.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Allright let me explain the generational difference between us and the dudes your dad's age. Keep in mind I'm speaking in generalities so your expectations may very.

The twenty something year olds and teens who make up the majority of the TRP population are experiencing the most open Hypergamy in human existance thanks to the internet. Remember those shady ass hooker adds in newspapers from the 90's? Well now every woman has one it's called an Instagram. Women are really whoring it harder than ever before. So on one hand the sexual competition is more intense on the other hand women are much more open about their Hypergamy. Which is why for the first time ever large groups of betas like MGTOWs are figuring out what going on.

Finally our generation of Feminists are generally more open about the whole kill all men thing, so generally speaking it's a lot easier to adopt the antifeminist position.

So in conclusion the 50 year olds are from a less crazy time so it's harder for them to adopt our hard-line position.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 2 points3 points  (3 children)

When we discuss abstract concept like freedom there is a lot of room to maneuver in discussing what freedom is. Since the concept is so nebulous it's really easy to impose your personal/cultural values on it before claiming moral authority.

The first freedom we should strive for is freedom from the demands of your body. Unless you beat the shit out of your body with heavy exercise your body will make you a tired anxious mess and all of your other goals will fly out the window. Fat people are anything but free. Out of shape people are slaves to their medical costs especially as they age. A man who lacks will isn't free because he lacks the ability to actually do what he wants.

The next question to ask is can an individual ever be free or is freedom only accomplished through a group . Now obviously all the individualistic Anglos here think that freedom is achievable as an individual.

But here's something to think about. All alone you are just a tiny stick that can be easily snapped and taken advantage of by a larger group. But together we tiny sticks can support each other so that no one can snap us.

I guess what I'm saying is do you want to be a little stick or a mighty faggot?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

can an individual ever be free or is freedom only accomplished through a group .

People tend to think that freedom means "doing whatever you want, whenever you want." However, this concept of freedom is ass backwards.

The freedom to do "whatever" - to be a individual standing apart from the rest of creation - leaves you unable to make any decisions. With all this "freedom" you have no necessity in your life and therefore no motivation to take action.

Guys don't want "individualistic freedom" as the West currently defines it. What they want is meaning, and this meaning comes from accepting limitation as a fact of existence.

Coming to understand your limitations (both imposed from society and by Natural Law) will teach you who you actually are. It will introduce necessity and purpose into your life, as you realize you don't have infinite time or a million different paths to explore.

I repeat: there is no such thing as "the individual freedom to do whatever makes you happy in the moment." All of society functions according to a natural hierarchy whereby the stronger will drives the weaker will. We are all connected and impacted by every one else around us.

Regarding groups, every one is part of what the Germans used to call a Volk. The volk is a community of likeminded people who share land and a common destiny. Contrary to later claims, the German concept of Volk was not race-specific. They accepted the races had mixed long ago and actually were OK with outsiders provided they fit into the Volkish spirit.

"Tribes" and groups are very important, but trying to identify them on a purely racial basis is too narrow. It's more like a combination of things (again: shared fate, land, beliefs, etc.) that determine who your true community will be.

The Red Pill, to my mind, is a tribe/group/Volk. It is composed of American middle-class men who grew up during the same time and have a similar spirit.

Our preoccupation with sexual strategy barely means any thing by itself, considering that sexual dynamics are at the heart of creation. This is why discussion of sexual strategy immediately branches into a myriad of other categories like finance, culture, science, and power (all are flairs, as you know).

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm familiar with your commenting style with the analogies and all. As soon as I read "tiny stick", I knew "faggot" was coming.

[–]sm-urf 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You have to consider that it might be him freely choosing to put his work above everything else in his life. He knows that he's got money, he has a family but still chooses to put the job first because that's what HE personally wants to do. Not taking a single vacation for 10 years is a pretty big show of where his values are at. Everyone is different and what's freedom for one could be slavery for the other.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah but a quite literal lack of freedom to go away and enjoy a planned holiday is not the same as it being a 'Meh, work or holiday, one is as good as the other' attitude.

I believe that if you want to be that kind of high flying exec though it's just part and parcel of the career, you don't get to change the system without working your way up it first.

[–]fischbrot 0 points1 point  (3 children)

whats your stand on abortion?

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Against it, no exceptions barring an ectopic pregnancy.

[–]fischbrot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

whats your reasoning for that?

[–]The_M0rning_Star -1 points0 points  (0 children)

....that's an exception...

"Against it, the only exception being an ectopic pregnancy."

[–]Cunt_Robber 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I respectfully disagree with your perspective on this big partner being a slave. Maybe his business was more important to him than the vacation. Or, maybe he just realized in order to have a good life you have to sacrifice and compromise.

Freedom comes at a price too. The price is the unknown. Instability. Worry. Stress. Freedom with money is preferred to freedom without money, but ultimately freedom turns to boredom and to depression. I am saying all this from experience. Even the POTUS, who is supposedly the "leader of the free world," is a slave, according to your perspective. Who the fuck then is actually free? Maybe we are arguing definition here.

To achieve anything in life you need to sacrifice: time, energy, and/or money. Lifting, practicing game, reading the sidebar... All require some sacrifice. So does acquiring financial wealth and the skillset to excel in a career path. They all require sacrifices. You can frame it another way (maybe one less glamorous but more realistic): you either suffer the pain of discipline or regret. But, you have a choice - that is the freedom to which you refer.

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe we are arguing definition here.

I think we are.

There is a difference in my mind between indeclinable obligations freely entered into—such as fatherhood, for instance—and being enslaved by a client, as I described.

[–]Turband 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reminds me of Nietzsche 's Ubermensch

[–]BinaryResult 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Specifics on how you achieved freedom would be nice.

[–]ntvirtue 0 points1 point  (2 children)

If you make seven million dollars in one year you have fuck you money

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

If you make seven million dollars in one year you have fuck you money

If you make seven million—and spend ten—you don't have fuck you money. In fact you're on your way to bankruptcy.

Income only matters when compared and contrasted to expenditures.

[–]ntvirtue 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you make seven mil and spend 10 you are DUMB and deserve to leave the gene pool before you reproduce.

[–]pn_me_your_dick 0 points1 point  (1 child)

being alpha is a side effect of doing the right thing

[–]jskahuna points points [recovered]

You are just finding a way to justify your monetary and career inferiority.

[–]Coach-Red-Pill[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Whatever helps you jerk off at night.

[–]Arhamzubair -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Great post coach, could you do me a favour and take a look at the private message i sent you about a week ago please? Much appreciated.

[–]CrazedHyperion -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nice writing, but from a philosophical viewpoint, it doesn't stand. There is always a need, if only a physiological need. You need air to breathe, so you depend on it to live. You can't fly like a bird because you're not a bird. Freedom or lack of can also be temporal. As you get older, you may find yourself wheelchair bound (I hope not). Even society may dictate if you are free or not, through laws. You say that you can sleep with whoever you like (I assume you have sex and call it "sleep") but if that person is underage, you may be committing statutory rape (just an example). You may want to get away from civilization in search for freedom, but you'll find out that the heat and the cold, the lack of food or clean water, the onset of disease (malaria, snake bite), animal attacks, may curtail your freedom. You are chasing a phantom, an ideal. I suggest that instead of chasing absolute freedom you should try to maximize your existing freedoms at the least possible cost.

[–]vwzwv -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't know. I think your point is negated by the likeliness that he canceled because he takes so many vacations it didn't bother him. I'm not trying to totally scrap the point you are trying to make, just saying.

[–]arthurabyssal -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

Peace is a lie, there is only passion Through passion, I gain strength Through strength, I gain power Through power, I gain victory And through victory my chains are broken The Red shall set me free

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Sounds like something a Communist would say.

[–]DalekJay 4 points5 points  (0 children)

worst its a star wars quote, its the Sith code

[–]NeoreactionSafe -5 points-4 points  (2 children)


  • Lucifer's Freedom


Lucifer is taught Natural Law.

He's a brilliant student... really a "star" who understands Natural Law fully.

But Lucifer doesn't like the realization that comes over him. He thinks:


  • "If freedom means I can either choose to follow Natural Law or not then why obey Natural Law?"


So Lucifer decides he is smarter than others (true) and will teach others a false understanding of things. This will Dumb Down others while he retains his brilliant mind.


  • "Better to rule in hell than serve in heaven."


...and that we call "freedom".

It's the freedom to apply Game so as to put others in darkness. (a Dark Triad choice)


Jesus said:


  • "Oh hell no... I'm sticking to Natural Law... fuck Lucifer he made a bad choice."


Pick your path... think for yourself and choose for yourself.


[–]do_it_or_leave 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What you mean by Natural Law?

I understand you refer to Lucifer as someone who opposes the Trivium method.

[–]NeoreactionSafe -1 points0 points  (0 children)


The Trivium Method is:


  • Open minded on evidence.

  • Close minded on thinking.

  • Share your wisdom.


...so if Lucifer wants to Dumb Down a victim so that he rules over them putting them into the darkness of ignorant bliss you would do:


  • Close minded in evidence. (censorship)

  • Open minded on thinking. (peer pressure)

  • Spread propaganda. (political correctness)


Natural Law includes concepts like "cause and effect".

Nothing is random, but sometimes one can be ignorant and blissful and believe in randomness.

The Game manipulator knows the cause and creates the effect.