MGTOWDecline of marriage hitting Vegas hard (self.TheRedPill)

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Decline of Marriage Hitting Vegas Hard'

Nevada’s marriage rate has plummeted in recent decades...recent research suggests America’s marriage gap is cementing disadvantage.

Why do women and Leftists ALWAYS have trouble telling cause and effect? "Cementing disadvantage" is social science code talk for...this is bad because it helps rich white people but it is nothing of the sort. They are claiming the poor baby mommas on welfare don't marry and that is why they stay poor? Not because they are on welfare, refuse to work, and use their uterus like a bank- just put in something hard and out pops a vaginal turd that can be turned into money? No! The baby momma with 18 kids by 29 different putative fathers can't get married and that is "cementing inequality." LMFAO. No self awareness. No personal responsibility.

America’s working and middle classes are faring badly, and the research points to unraveling families as one cause.

Now who could be responsible for "unravelling families?" Who oh who might it be? Is it:

a. The 15% of men who initiate divorce and unravel families


b. The 85% of women who initiate divorce and unravel families?

Never mind. The quoted paragraph is over and we shall not revisit this issue again. Of course not. An analysis into what is REALLY going on might make some ladies feeeeeelllll bad.

Durham, a 39-year-old from Montesano, Washington, has a 7-year-old daughter and an 11-year-old son from a prior marriage, and she’s seen a cut to her child support now that she’s in a dual-income family.

Cue the story of the long suffering woman who does NOT want to get married and is forced into this tired old useless tradition by her "partner" because who wouldn't want to raise another man's 7 and 11 year old kids! The frequency of this happening where the man wants to cuck himself is 1 in 50. The frequency of the opposite story where the woman is poking and pressuring to sign the contract is about 90% or 45 in 50 (the other 4 are men who want a premade family and are probably sterile).

Yet they present these stories in distorted forms to avoid "enhancing cultural stereotypes." We need to start recognizing this tactic and fighting back.

--Then they give us a survey of why people don't get married which shows the total futility of "Social Science."

They use the age ranges 18-25; 24-35; and 35+ which totally ignores the SMV during a woman's life. Want to bet there is a sharp difference is pre and post wall women? Just saying. The questions are equally worthless and do not even tell us the male/female differences in the questions.

They decide on 3 reasons:

--not ready to settle down

--not financially prepared

--haven't found what I am looking for...

but these are vacuous and could mean anything. It says 35% in the 18-24 range are "not ready to settle down" but "not ready to settle down" is ridiculously vague. Does it mean: I AM NOT DONE RIDING THE COCK CAROUSEL- I WILL FIND YOU AND PRETEND TO LIKE YOU AFTER BEING FUCKED WITH MORE COCK THAN A FOOTBALL TEAM. Or does it mean that she isn't done sorting her holy cards and need additional years to complete her sacred obligations washing the feet of the poor and assisting the saints?

Another 25% "Are not financially prepared" so they would consider a marriage if the guy had enough money? And how is that answer different than "haven't found what I am looking for?"

Social Science is a fraud.

In U.S. regions where fracking sharply increased in recent years, wages for working-class men shot up, as did births. Marriage didn’t.

Can you hear me now?

Apparently not since all this author can talk about are economic reasons! Obviously women cannot bear any responsibility. Obviously marriage is GREAT! It is right there in the short article- several paragraphs on the advantages of marriage so it must be true.

I guess they can't hear us yet.

Don't worry ladies, there is a silver lining. Fewer weddings mean fewer divorces.

Do these people have any connection to reality whatsoever?

Lessons Learned:

  1. Our opponents really believe the marriage deficit is a plot of rich white men to perpetuate inequality.

  2. Social science based on blue pill assumptions (aka 99.995% of it) is worthless.

  3. Journalism is toxic, femcentric, and deceitful.

  4. In other news, water is wet.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 311 points312 points  (97 children)

As soon as something stops serving women's interests suddenly it's a "problem". What's going on here is that men have realized that marriage doesn't serve their interests, even to the point where this overcomes the Bluepill Delusion, and they are voting with their feet - feet which are no longer walking down aisles.

And why should they? I'm a deal guy and I can tell you that marriage is a shit deal. You are wagering your financial well-being that your wife isn't going to...wait for it...change her mind. So you're counting on the same woman who can't figure out what she wants for dinner to love you for the rest of your life. PLONK!

When it comes to SMV, there is nothing (on average) more valuable than a young woman and nothing less valuable (again, on average) than a young man. Thus young women, when they have the advantage, are perversely incented to whore it up - fuck getting married and having babies because that would mean the Fun Train would come to a screeching halt and they'd have actual RESPONSIBILITY and who the fuck wants that when there are margaritas to drink and get White Girl Wasted? But the trouble is, while they start out higher, they on an escalator going DOWN and men, unless they do something to take themselves out of the game (drugs, alcoholism, etc.), are on an escalator going UP, and when the escalators cross around 30 or 32, the men wave "buh-BYE!" to the women, which is also about the time that women start complaining that "There are no good men left!" which means that there are no men that they can get who meet their "requirements" given their increased expectations and decreased attractiveness.

"Gather ye rosebuds while ye may..."

Suddenly, that shit is a PROBLEM for women because they are hitting the "Epiphany Phase" and are just about to hear the Conductor yell, "WALL STATION! EVERYONE OFF!" The WallSPLAT! is real, the WallSPLAT! is inevitable, the WallSPLAT! does not compromise.

But for an unattached man who hasn't fucked himself up in some way, life is getting good. 20-25 year old women - and new ones are made every year - don't present the same set of problems or demands ("I want a baby! I want nice stuff!") as 30 year old women do, and 20-25 year old women, on average, will be more sexually desirable, anyway.

Men no longer need to marry to have ready access to sex - indeed, if a man plays it right, he can have sex with younger, more sexually attractive women, and isn't limited to one (officially anyway). Put another way, there's are some reasons I, 49M, can bang 21 year olds, and one of those reasons is that I don't have a 49 year old wife telling me I can't, and threatening to leave with the kids, half my worldly goods and 40% of my gross.

The question is not why so comparatively few men marry, it's why any man marries.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 69 points70 points  (53 children)

Bravo and very well written. I'm only 26 years old and all of what you written makes perfect sense. I find it funny when I look on Facebook and see chicks I knew who are complete sluts, somehow getting married. It's like "Do these guys not realize their wife has been riding so many dicks in college and high school?"

No way in hell I'm ever getting married. Even the unassuming "innocent looking" women can end up being huge sluts. So much drama that's not worth it. You don't have as much freedom in a girlfriend/boyfriend relationship, let alone marriage. That doesn't even account for how much the average wedding costs.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 84 points85 points  (43 children)

Thx. And bear in mind that I'm not a "marriage hater" particularly. My folks were married for more than 60 years and were really in love with each other. And yes, life is difficult, and it's nice to have a teammate to help - although really this is more important for women.

But now we treat relationships, including marriage, like consumer goods. Don't like what you got from Amazon? Send it back. Don't like your 'starter husband'? Divorce him for cash and prizes.

The value proposition just isn't there anymore.

And don't expect women to take any responsibility in this. If you saw the article in the Telegraph (also noted on the BBC) that was discussed here the other day, we find that all of these "wonderful" educated, accomplished women have to freeze their eggs now because no man meets their standards. No mention of hypergamy of course, or that maybe they should expand their pool of eligible partners to high character guys in blue collar fields. Again, it was the fault of MEN for not living up to the standards women set for them, and not deferring to the women's "schedules" for pair-bonding and family. Why should they? In the World of Men, what MEN want matters, too. But we're somehow supposed to serve as an accessory, like Malibu Ken, hit our mark, say our lines and stay out of Bridezilla Barbie's way. Fuck that noise.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (31 children)

"The PatriarchyTM" has been a viable way for a civilization to rise.

Any bets on exactly how long it will take for the west to stop looking like anything like the west we think of?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 37 points38 points  (28 children)

"The PatriarchyTM" has been a viable way to a civilization to rise.

You know who LURVES themselves some Patriarchy? Women. The Patriarchy could not exist without the complicity of women. That said, we have transitioned from real Patriarchy to a hollowed out version. Feminism is a Giant Shit Test, and we're failing it.

Any bets on exactly how long it will take for the west to stop looking like anything like the west we think of?

Probably sooner than we'd like. The election of Trump has helped stave things off in America. I think that has bought us ten years. Western Europe is lost. The battle is on in the East, I'm afraid.

Anyway, I am reminded that the only two times you don't need more ammunition is when you are either (a) swimming or (b) on fire. I act accordingly and recommend that others do the same.

[–]bigk12345 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Jordan Peterson backs your point that women are responsible for the Evil patriarchy.

Women are the one that perpetuate patriarchy because it is in their genes to look for the highest , 20 % high value male.

Guess what? That means that women's word she picks a winner. She could really care less about some losers


[–]asianincel -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

golden zealot fucked jordan peterson but he couldn't appreciate his girth

[–]Golden_Zealot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Only cause u fuk me too often

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (21 children)

not sure what kind of ammo you are packing.

The bottom line, is yes they drool over patriarchy of the true variety. Too bad their equal rights are going to give it to them in a way they never intended.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 20 points21 points  (16 children)


The kind you shoot MFers with. I have a prepper buddy who always asks if I need anything before he heads off to "Ammo-Mart" - I have an open invite to join him in the bunker if when the world ends.

their equal rights.

I am not particularly a fan of Paul Elam but he had a great line abt how the most brutal thing you can do to women who demand "Equality!" is to give it to them.

[–]2awalt_cupcake 4 points5 points  (5 children)

I recently got into hand guns since TRP. I'm still very new to the scene. Any tips on resources for us noobs getting started? FWIW I'm the first man in my family to shoot a gun let alone want one since before my grandparents. My grandpappy was a soft boy.

[–]snorlax51 10 points11 points  (0 children)

What kind of resources? I've been around guns since birth so I'm not sure where to start. Is there a specific question or topic you had in mind?

The biggest thing is safety. Always treat a gun as if it's loaded. Cause the one time you think it isn't and pull the trigger... Just respect the gun for what it is and is capable of.

Calibers is probably a good starting point. The type of gun like a glock or Smith and Wesson is purely dependent on personal choice. People will argue one is better than the other but as long as it doesn't have a bad reputation for killing the user and has good accuracy it really only matters to you.

Each caliber behaves differently than another. For instance a .40 S&W caliber bullet will go a a lot faster with more force than a .45. That's because the .45 bullet bigger and has more drag: also has to do with the charge of the powder but that's not important right now.

For handguns, it also depends what you want to do with it. You wouldn't want a desert eagle for an everyday concealed carry, but you wouldn't want a .22 cal pea shooter either (or maybe you would but most reasonable people don't lol). If its just for hunting then a long barrel pistol is the way to go. If you're looking for just a general range/home defense gun, than size and shape of the gun isn't that much of a factor.

Going back to caliber, try to stay with the 'generic brands'. This is your 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 cal. Typically these and smaller calibers are used in revolvers as well, but will usually have a "magnum" designation after it. Just means it's a longer bullet than the usual non-magnum bullet in that caliber. By staying with well known and used calibers, it will keep the cost per bullet down and be easier to find, especially at wally world.

Another big safety point is sometimes when you pull the trigger it won't fire. That's ok and the gun isn't broke, the bullet is. When this happens, count to 10 Mississippi and eject it carefully. Sometimes the primer (part that iginites the gunpowder) is faulty or delayed. It can sometimes go off after a few seconds. That's why it's good to count to 10 or more before ejecting it. Don't want it going off in your hand pulling it from the gun. Also dont look down the barrel to see if the bullet got stuck. Saw a YouTube video of a guy that did exactly that and luckily pulled the gun away at the last second so it only took his forehead and not head off.

Always glad to see a new gun owner as long as you're responsible and use common sense. JUST NEVER POINT ONE AT A PERSON UNLESS YOU INTEND TO KILL THAT PERSON. THESE AREN'T FUCKING TOYS! I don't care how bad you want to act out dirty Harry with your friends, get a squirt gun!

Edit: mobile is hard.

[–]2soccerbum312 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now that you do own a firearm I suggest these basics:

  • hunters safety course credentials
  • Safe to store gun in a dry place
  • proper cleaning supplies
  • soft or hard case for transportation
  • 3-4 magazines (always keep you in your safe fully loaded)
  • proper eye protection
  • ear protection (I have a custom set of ear buds that work great)
  • when you're buying ammo, I also suggest checking out fun shows where men sell well made reloads for cheaper than you could get in store

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yes, ABSOLUTELY go get proper training. You can start here.

Keep your guns and ammo properly secured and maintained at all times. Also, treat the gun as loaded 100% of the time.

[–]2awalt_cupcake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great resource there. I'll be reading this tonight. Maybe "noob" wasn't the right word to use. I've gone shooting at ranges a few times and I know the basics.

Where I'm lost at is the fact there's so many weapons out there. You can build your own. Customize. Different brands of ammo that specialize in different things. What I think would do me well is events. What type of gun events do you recommend to meet others or see cool shit? Like new guns on the block.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Seems more that the West will crumble over decades than instantly collapse. Still need the gun of course. Thanks for your posts here, on point stuff.

[–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Collapse generally proceeds logarithmically, which means "very slowly, and then all at once". The West obliterated itself metaphysically and culturally in the World Wars, which left itself open to the follow on infections of feminism and cultural marxism. These have been steadily raising social and in many cases financial costs for more than half a century now, and the curve is in some ways accelerating since there no longer exists a mechanism to restore what was lost and thus began the decline initially.

[–]crimsonkodiak 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Collapse generally proceeds logarithmically, which means "very slowly, and then all at once".

Unfortunately, it seems like there's a human tendency to double down on stupid when the collapse starts happening. Just look at Latin America - despite the fact countries like Argentina and Venezuela have been crippled by years of poor policies, large segments of the population continue to want to stay the course.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm ok with my 9 and a bull pop

[–]beachbbqlover 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I know there's a good 1% of women who can outshoot 95% of men, ride bike hard, rock climb, and will yell at a hockey player for being a pussy because her collar bone didn't take that long to heal. I'm not saying they're the ones to go for, but let's just call them an exception to that rule.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev -1 points0 points  (1 child)

let's just call them an exception to that rule.

The existence of outliers does not negate the underlying principle.

[–]beachbbqlover 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It certainly doesn't. Why did I visually see someone making that answer when I hit "save"?

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[–]Golden_Zealot -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Then i vomit is back into his asshole

[–]fastnail 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Scurvemuch - Feminists don't want equality they want "privelege without responsibility"

[–]fastnail 1 point2 points  (0 children)

VasiliyZaitzev - Brexit has given the UK 10 years as well.

[–]asianincel -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

i luv myself golden zealots 19 inch cock rammed either down my throat or up my tight asian asshole

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[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Exactly. My parents have a great marriage and I know family friends whose kids are around my age or same grade in high school, that have great marriages. The problem is, times are different.

Marriage has completely changed from when my parents got married. Also, it isn't a shock that men can't meet those women's standards, when they have absolutely ridiculous expectations.

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[–]Jkrew 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Holy shit I love that consumer goods analogy. That's the type of powerful modern day language that can red pill men in one casual conversation.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Regrettably, it's also true.

[–]I_Need_More_Space_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude, you are Red as fuck. Cheers.

[–]ECoast_Man 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Starter husband

Ha! What a great way of putting it. Couldn't agree more with your post by the way. I'm at the stage now as the young 30s lawyer (conflict guy, not deal guy) and it is startling how the broads my age, who I'm friends with, have morphed into "what have you done for me lately?" -types. Girl, you're on Tinder constantly and your returns are diminishing hard.

None of it is new at this point, but it's when a man hits this age bracket when you really notice this.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 1 point2 points  (0 children)

is startling how the broads my age, who I'm friends with, have morphed into "what have you done for me lately?" -types. Girl, you're on Tinder constantly and your returns are diminishing hard.

Yeah, it's one of those things where value goes down but price goes up....or so they seem to think. Meanwhile, younger, more attractive, more fertile women don't come with the same set of problems....

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[–]Phoenixtorment 12 points13 points  (3 children)

"Do these guys not realize their wife has been riding so many dicks in college and high school?"

They do know this to an extend, the problem is that it is socially accepted and EXPECTED to just have 'fun' in your twenties. And then around 30, settle down. It is normal in the bluepill world.

And there is some logic behind it. Get your degree first, find a steady job, create a network of friends. By that time you are around 26 minimum. Usually around 28 here what with ppl doing multiple studies and jobhopping.

Coincidentally it is the Wall age for women.

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[–]asianincel 1 point2 points  (2 children)

golden zealot this dude is going to die alone isn't he

[–]ehboobooo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How would the guy know? When you are young you say stupid ass shit and later in life realize it could easily happen to you...

[–]fastnail 0 points1 point  (0 children)

RedPilledGodEmperor - The thing is your not only marrying the girl your marrying the government.

Subscribe to "MGTOW is freedom" on Youtube, you'll learn a lot.



[–]TheReformist94 26 points27 points  (4 children)

Jesus Christ when will this sub get that women do not give a fuck about marriage and comittment.they blow up marriages because they are serial monogamous and get sick of the same cock after about a month. Stop marrying these sluts

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Oh, they care going in, so they can have the Bridezilla Barbie wedding, and lock down a meal ticket. It's the dissolution part that's the problem.

[–]yomo86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep, it's called her day for a reason. It was her last day as a desirable carefree woman - it had to be splendid and awesome, which is fair enough. Why, you might ask? Because it happened once in a lifetime, the last no holds barred party with fucking in the end, not every 7.3 years, when hubby became a provider and even the kids did not bring enough thrill to a woman's life, anymore.

[–]Docbear64 17 points18 points  (10 children)

It's particularly funny because women in general just don't seem to see it . from my in-laws to married friends I don't know one married man who will tell you getting married is worth it . Don't get me wrong they love their wives, they adore their kids, but Marriage itself? the institution ? the shackles? yeah that shit is not worth it . Of course that's not a big deal when things are going good, but if they go bad you're now trapped and essentially held hostage financially and to a degree socially. You lose your marriage then you probably will lose money , a lot of time with your family ( primarily children) , hell if she's really cold she might take the dog too .

Mean while I see an increasingly large number of spinsters and cat - ladies in my family , in exes , in former friends . the closer to the wall or more post-wall they are the more blind they seem to be to the disadvantages for men in marriage and WHY they aren't married or some of them even in an LTR .

Like you said Uncle V the question is WHY would nay man choose to be married right now ? I'll jump off a cliff the next time I hear someone weakly mumble " She deserves it " under his breath .

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 33 points34 points  (6 children)

It's particularly funny because women in general just don't seem to see it.

Indeed. There is a 40ish y.o. married woman that I know who is a cool chick. But she gets mad at me for, well, living my life the way I want to, boning younger women and basically having a good time. I got an (attempted) talking to1 the other day in the course of her discussing the egg freezing thing (which she brought up), and I say, "Hey, hold your horses. Have you tried reading that with a 'man's eyes'? Those broads probably turned down a dozen perfectly suitable men because they wanted to keep being cock jockeys for another season. Now they're 35 and can't find anyone who meets their elevated expectations. Boo-hoo-hoo."

She was too surprised that men might view things differently that she she forgot to be angry. In fairness to her, she's actually a pretty cool chick, but sometimes she gets hung up on what "Team Girl" thinks is best.2

1 "It's because of you and men like you..." Oy, vey.

2 She also jokes with me that she has to "suspend her feminism" around me. I LOL'd.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (5 children)

she she forgot to be angry

did she give you the "o" face... kind of like the slack jaw look?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 14 points15 points  (2 children)

More the second, like she had to stop and re-evaluate shit. More like a "holy fuck I never thought of that!"

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That is the look I was describing.

Also, she must have given up on trying to get you to fuck her. Her brain is working.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 14 points15 points  (0 children)

She's married, so I have a "hands off" policy. I am friends (through her) with her husband also, so another good reason.

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[–]beachbbqlover 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty much man.

I have been with the same woman for 8 years. She puts up with my shit, I put up with hers, and on the whole it's been easier than most things. She does not deserve 'cash and prizes' for checking out on me, which is essentially the entire contract. Every time I considered it, I gave my head a shake.

[–]asianincel -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

golden zealot tells me to call him daddy under my breath when he fucks my leg

[–]CrazedHyperion 6 points7 points  (4 children)

It is mostly correct. A young man may marry hoping that he may find a young woman with potential to help earn income, as it is easier to manage a household with two incomes. However, the fallacy is that women change their plans midstream, and may desire to become "stay at home mommies" relatively quickly. At that point, the marriage contract should become null and void. Another reason might be that the man desires sex on a regular basis, and we all know how quickly it goes south after marriage. If sex was not good before marriage, it will be much worse after marriage. And you have the issue of marital rape to contend with. You have the Damocles' Sword hanging over your head constantly, what if she goes crazy and turns you in to the police for rape? Then what? You're fucked.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 6 points7 points  (3 children)

A young man may marry hoping that he may find a young woman with potential to help earn income, as it is easier to manage a household with two incomes.

Actually, socio-economic status has basically zero effect on the ability of women to find a mate, whereas it has a large impact on men. Why? Because men love with their eyes. We can build everything we need to live ourselves as a gender, but to have children we need women. They can also be useful for blowjobs and light housework, and maybe cooking and mending if you're lucky. This isn't to say that they aren't capable of other things, but we don't need them for other things.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 6 points7 points  (2 children)

It's actually negatively correlated.

As in, the higher the socio-economic status a woman has, the lower her chances of finding a mate.

This is essentially an observation of self determined hypergamy. A woman who forgoes the effort of education and professional life above and beyond the mean has a much larger dating pool. Without an education and strong income, her dating pool is basically nearly all men who are tall and fit enough.

Education chops her dating pool by 75%. Graduate degree by another 15% and then professionaldoctorate another 5%. Again that doesn't even factor anything else like height.

So women who get graduate degrees are fighting over the top literal 1% of men if they are tall and educated and fit (only 30% of men are fit, even less highly fit).

Basically you want your daughter to be roughly nurse, not a director of nursing, or doctor. It is statistically negatively correlated with her longterm success.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point  (1 child)

As in, the higher the socio-economic status a woman has, the lower her chances of finding a mate.

That's self-inflicted, though. Any attractive woman can, at any time, think, "Hey, maybe I miscalculated by waiting for Prince William and perhaps I should broaden the pool of potential suitors..." It's just a matter of her realizing, which too often does't occur until the epiphany phase and doesn't stick.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're missing the point of what I'm saying.

We can agree it's perfectly reasonable for a woman to wait till the age of 24 before she decides to settle down and get married. In that time she could hold for instance a DDS.

Her suitor pool, if she wants him to be over 6' tall and fit is something like 1% of the population. That isn't because she "waited." It's because she's raised her internal bar.

And honestly, I don't think anyone really thinks about the impact of that, so you can't fault a woman for achieving, really. It's a shitty reality to digest.

To know that your daughter would be better off as a nurse than a director of nurses.

[–]fastnail 1 point2 points  (0 children)

VasiliyZaitzev...A great post and spot on (-:

[–]RobotAntidote 1 point2 points  (13 children)

Honest question. Don't you at any point feel that women are forced to play into the wall-game? It's not like they choose this approach, they're very much forced into it and if you as a male of 40-45 want a kid, you're going to look for a woman in her "before 30's". Tell me you don't hope that all this is a cruel fucking game orchestrated from the dawn of time where we fight eachother. I'm honestly exhausted with this stupid incredulity. Why can't we be friends...

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 10 points11 points  (12 children)

Honest question. Don't you at any point feel that women are forced to play into the wall-game?

You mean when they get to the "Epiphany Phase"?

It's not like they choose this approach

Of course they do. Women in the flower of their youthful SMV peak from 18-24 (or whatever) could certainly find and lock down a suitable man. In fact, they did this in previous generations. Now they're told to slut it up with every Outlaw Biker, Escaped Mental Patient and Convicted Felon that they can, avoiding marriage because that's not "fun", and to work in some boring cubicle job - and why is a woman "free" when she serves a corporation in a meaningless job and a "slave" when she serves a husband and family?

Women chose this approach because extending adolescence if "fun", and babies poop and cry a lot.

if you as a male of 40-45 want a kid, you're going to look for a woman in her "before 30's".

Totally. Even if they aren't looking to become a father necessarily, men are still attracted to young, fertile women because: genes. It's our biological imperative. I haven's fucked a girl over 25 in four or five years. Why should I, when I have access to regular sex with young, attractive women?

Tell me you don't hope that all this is a cruel fucking game orchestrated from the dawn of time where we fight eachother. I'm honestly exhausted with this stupid incredulity. Why can't we be friends...

You mean why can't women be unicorns and why isn't there a more equitable distribution of pussy? Personally, I'm quite happy that there are market inefficiencies to be exploited because as a result, I have access to young, willing women.

Human beings were not intended to live in cities and produce skyscrapers and Derrida. Biologically, we are designed to reproduced in our late teens and 20s and then die in our 40s or 50s. Delaying childbirth is a bug not a feature.

Beyond that, you're last line seems to indicate that you want to utilize Red Pill tools to pursue your Blue Pill Goals, i.e. some sort of "Disney for Guys" you are going to find that's a difficult game to play.

[–]RobotAntidote -2 points-1 points  (11 children)

Epiphany phase is a result not a cause, otherwise i'm not sure what you were going for there. "Cause" is still, them hitting the wall, whether it's imaginary or not (read the article) is up for debate (didn't find anything to indicate it's made up). So they live it up (as we are, as anyone should really, it should not be frowned upon - sounds pretty egalitarian on my end) and then they "hit the wall" and they panic. We don't because we do not have a wall or it's so far ahead our lives it doesn't even matter. Truth is both sexes are programed to reproduce, one of them however at an individual level is going to lose the chance if they don't do it "NOW" and that has to be stressful man and we just take it for granted and blame them for it as if it had anything to do with "promiscuity". I don't feel that way, sex is fun, let's fuck each other, reproducing is a whole 'nother ball game. Reproducing subject has to be approached with an open mind because they "need" to find the best possible seed (egoistic traits are not sexist) whilst we can just screw multiple chicks and have as many kids as we want - i know this is talking in ideal terms - but it affects your way of thinking, different for each sex. Due to the roles we each fill, we have evolved differently. I guess the question in my head is, are women inherently ill-intended once you account for egoistical traits, which again, are present in any individual. Correct me if i'm wrong but I for one will always be put above anyone around me - but i fully expect everyone to do the same with them.

About last line(on phone so have to speak from memory) i don't want women to be unicorns aka creatures that mold their needs after mine nor do i care about equal distribution of pussy. Up until i'm convinced we're all good ppl, i have no intention of blue pilling, but i do want us all to fight each other equally and i don't think men and women should be two different factions.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Epiphany phase is a result not a cause, otherwise i'm not sure what you were going for there.

It's a time marker, as I used it, above.

We don't because we do not have a wall or it's so far ahead our lives it doesn't even matter.

I like to say that, for men, the Wall is coterminous with death, but that is not strictly true.

Truth is both sexes are programed to reproduce

Yeah, but for women it's their primary purpose, from a genetic perspective.

if they don't do it "NOW" and that has to be stressful man and we just take it for granted and blame them for it as if it had anything to do with "promiscuity".

This has a "white knight-y" feel to it....

I guess the question in my head is, are women inherently ill-intended once you account for egoistical traits, which again, are present in any individual.

They are what they are. Is the scorpion in the story of the Frog & The Scorpion evil?

About last line(on phone so have to speak from memory) i don't want women to be unicorns aka creatures that mold their needs after mine nor do i care about equal distribution of pussy.

You so seem to have a bit of a Utopian vision.

i do want us all to fight each other equally

Why? I exploit market inefficiencies and I am happy they exist. It's why I get to nail 19-25 year olds.

[–]RobotAntidote 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Haven't read the story but let's stress it's a story - regardless i would assume it did what it had to survive, we can't really equate humans with scorpions when discussing at this level. If you want to extrapolate i guess we can discuss murderers but we're going down another rabbit hole and based on your last paragraph i guess we will just have to agree to disagree. I have nothing against humans, i see us as brothers that are pit against eachother.

Regarding reproducing, again I think they're made to think more about this, because of "the wall". When was the last time you had to think, "hmm do i want kids? Because it's about time or my balls will start shriveling up" or some stupid shit. No, if you want kids, then that's enough, your balls are ready for action. This is an argument, nothing to do with white knight unless, again you're not into the egalitarian thinking, which is perfectly fine but my whole line of thought was based on this. But let me say this though, you should be ok with others exploiting weaknesses if you do it, otherwise that's just mean man :(. Asshole and let asshole as they say.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Haven't read the story but let's stress it's a story - regardless i would assume it did what it had to survive

Quite the opposite. You have to read the story.

you're not into the egalitarian thinking, which is perfectly fine but my whole line of thought was based on this.

I know. I've lived in the world a long time. After a while you come to understand how things are: Natur, red, in tooth and claw.

[–]RobotAntidote 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think everyone goes through that at some point when they decide enough is enough but that's the thing it comes as a change not the standard. Maybe i'm wrong, but everyone has been hurt at some point and is just hurting back. Then again, as you said, i am a dreamer. Thanks for the convo!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Holy hell, you need to read the story it applies

[–]RobotAntidote 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have read it, i really have to stress that it's a story and you have to understand that the "moral" of the story is what the story was constructed around. The moral came first and then the story. It's akin to saying "it's in my nature" but using a lot more words and a fictious story that the author IMAGINED. But again, more to the point, we're not scorpions or frogs, that's reducing it to the point of no inherent meaning or application. I can accept the story as a means to illustrate Zaitzev's point but not as unquestionable truth. Then again, maybe that is so, this is a matter of "blue pill" vs "red pill" and i know on which side i am with this and same as the both of you i have no proper absolute truth other than my conviction. Cheers

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The point of the story was to effectively illustrate the meaning without losing the attention of the reader. You managed to over-analyze something that was designed so that even a moron could understand.

Yes the moral came first and then the story, but that's not the point of the story. The Scorpion will sting you, The Hornet will sting you, the spider will bite you, the woman will fuck you over.

There are exceptions, but don't bet your health and happiness on it.

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[–]RobotAntidote 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Haven't thought about this perspective. Sex at 12 though, is just dick in pussy and might actually lead to trauma. Or maybe not, this is highly theoretical for me at least.

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[–]RobotAntidote 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, I wasn't implying anything man :)).

[–]qball43 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What would you reccomend for a guy like me, been here for years but last year became a Christian and now identify strongly with that, so going out banging everything just isnt my go-to anymore. I know marraige is still a no go.. but whats next?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Well, the greater likelihood is that you are practicing "Churchianity" not "Christianity" but don't get me started. If you go over to the link for "Dalrock" in the sidebar, he's a "Red Pill" Christian so start there.

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[–]yummyluckycharms 35 points36 points  (4 children)

The simplest way to debunk the people are poor because they arent married myth is to simply say....if marriage is so beneficial, them why are poor people running away from it when they previously embraced it (and were still poor).

After the mental gymnastics, the answer the pro marriage people will come up with is that poor people are either ignorant or dumb....which is incredibly wrong and ignorant itself

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 4 points5 points  (3 children)

The answer is something no one is even talking about. Marriage has become an institution of affluence.

As much as guys around here want to pretend that every high SMV guy will reject it, the truth is the opposite.

Marriage will be reserved for high SMV men in the future.

Just look to Japan for our future. Small number of men with small numbers of women. Equal numbers of MGTOWs and cat hoarders.

Japan was the answer to whether or not women would lower their standards or ride the hypergamy train into the sunset.

We know the answer to that now.

[–]yummyluckycharms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Marriage is used by the elite to unite families and to protect dynastic inheritances....still doesnt mean that women arent willing to share an alpha....esp if its discrete

think medieval ages.....hypergamy wasnt frowned upon and often families schemed to get their attractive relatives noticed on purpose

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought part of the issue in Japan was that women know when they enter marriage they will effectively become "slaves" to their husbands (as is tradition in Japan) which is why many, if not most, of the girls opt out of marriage. Not sure it's about hypergamy there as their culture is more strict than Westerner when it comes to wives fulfilling traditional roles in marriage?

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (8 children)

Marriage is raw deal for men today. First, you have to give up all other pussy forever. In return, you get saddled with one bitch whose looks decay annually and on a whim she can take half your net worth, the house, and kids as part of her divorce sweepstakes.

I'm woke too late, but if possible, I'd go back and tell the younger DentyneWhite that he could easily play the field forever with muscles, charisma, and attitude

[–]satanicpriest13 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Marriage today is no incentive. You have to ask,"what's in it for me?"

I'm young but I still get asked m what my plans are. I always ask these nosey gossip mongers why I should do it. What the upside is for me.

Their answer is always along the lines of "you just do it. It's the responsible thing to do. You'll see" You got intellect, muscles, and even moderate cash, you can acquire a different bang maid each week.

[–]30fretibanezguy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But marriage is the best environment to raise children!!!!!!!!!!

(Children who will also fall for the marriage trap)

[–]polakfury 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Would one even say relationships are a liability and it best to keep spinning plates?

[–]satanicpriest13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In recent times, I've even taken that little attention off of plates and focused even more on making money, muscles and intellect. You will be surprised how many birds you can get just by focusing on yourself. You can always get women chasing money, not the other way round. Sure relationships are a liability. You do not want to deal with drama and fake pregnancy bollocks while learning and advancing your career. I have not taken the blackpill, I am just being realistic about the abundance of immoral and low quality women.

[–]yomo86 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Forever is a far stretch but yes, until your sex thrives comes to a semi-stall around 60, you can easily fuck girls half your age, given you look the part.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Bah, I know a 70 year old widower drowning in 50 year old divorced pussy. he never lifted and has barely any game.

[–]yomo86 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I dispute the ability of a 50yo woman to create a flow at all.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I guess when one is 70 than 50 is hawt. Who am I to judge what I dont know?

[–]wiseprogressivethink 28 points29 points  (2 children)


I know of a guy who is in his 40s. Career military, joined shortly after high school. Worked his way up the military hierarchy to the point where he is now making nearly $100,000/year (plus all the benefits and retirement, etc.). He married young, had a couple of kids while still young. Good-looking wife roughly his age.

Unfortunately for him, his choice of career meant long deployments in dangerous hellholes like Afghanistan. Which means wifey was alone a lot. And a cute military wife left alone...is a wife who won't be left "alone" for long.

So. While he was literally on the other side of the planet, risking his life killing Islamist terrorists in service to his country, she was getting her cunt filled with cock from some guy nearly ten years younger than her.

So, she got knocked up. (It happens, what with all the sweaty extramarital fucking.) And she filed for divorce not long after she realized her periods weren't happening anymore (while he was still overseas, don't you know).

Result: Child support for the two kids that are (presumably) actually his - well over $1,000/month. Alimony (because his wife has no real education and few useful skills in the workforce since she's been a housewife almost her entire adult life) was several thousand dollars per month. Basically half his paycheck goes to this slut while he's still stuck overseas risking life and limb in defense of his nation.

Meanwhile, she lives (unmarried) with the baby daddy of her recent bastard, works part-time somewhere for minimum wage, but still lives better than most of us do ... while also receiving assorted welfare benefits as the head of household of a "working poor" family.

There's a lot that could be said about this situation. About marriage, in The Current Year. About joining the military, and the kinds of women such a career choice will likely attract. Even about the nightmare of family law in general.

But I want to leave you instead with a simple mental image: The man, who has busted (and risked) his ass for a quarter century in service to all of us, living for many months at a time in fucking tents in violent cesspools on the other side of the world surrounded by the constant threat of death, gets rewarded in his middle age by being cucked and getting nearly half his income confiscated from him; and the woman, who is a now post-wall and almost unemployable, taking daily cock from a much younger Chad while working a mindless part-time job, living off the income of the man she betrayed, and all the while receiving your tax dollars to further supplement her easy, laid-back lifestyle.

Oh, and all while raising his kids (including a daughter), and being the example they see everyday. Yeah, that too.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile "Cuck" will be denied access to his children and the wife will allege that he is a "trained killer" in order to keep him away from them and the courts will agree.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was good mates with an British Army captain for a while and he told me he gave every new young recruit the same lecture when they arrived "There are hundreds of young girls who live around this base who know full well if they get pregnant by you, you will be forced to give up 1/2 your Army salary for life and that they will get free housing from the council." He said, depressingly, many of the young lads still fell into the trap. Then he'd pull them in for a shorter 2nd chat: "I warned you dipshit."

[–]Zchavago 19 points20 points  (1 child)

The bad thing is that fewer divorces means women are going to get less money, therefore they'll start bitching more about the imaginary "wage gap". Or maybe that's why they're already bitching.

[–]harsha_hs 20 points21 points  (0 children)

dude these woman gonna bitch regardless of shit happening.

[–]francisco_DANKonia 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I thought they don't need no man. How could declining marriage hurt them then? They should be rejoicing, since it is what they wanted all along.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 22 points23 points  (5 children)


Now who could be responsible for "unravelling families?"


The Globalist Tyranny.


...but that's a long bit of sidetracking we need not get into.


Back to the decline of marriage...

The root cause is that Natural Laws were violated the moment they invented the Family Court system. Child Support means marriage is redundant. And if you do get married that's like a female version of getting Bonus Credits where they can extract all kinds of added prizes in a Divorce Rape.

The decline of marriage is because of bad laws.

Dismantle the bad laws and marriage will recover quickly because a man will have no more nightmares about Divorce Rape.


[–]Mail_Order_Lutefisk 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Marriage itself runs counter to nature. Men are programmed to be polygamous, women to be hypergamous. Marriage in the West was initially a religious covenant to pair off men and women to tame the man's polygamous tendencies and to tame the woman's hypergamous tendencies as a means to create a civil society fit for rearing children. Female chastity was an expected condition precedent to entering into the aforementioned religious covenant. I think there is some truth to what you are saying, but I think the decline of religion is a far bigger driver of the falling marriage rate in the West than divorce laws.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 12 points13 points  (0 children)


Marriage was once a man's promise of fidelity.

Women were expected to be faithful too but the laws were such that in a divorce the man got everything.


Old Maid




The objective of the game is to continue to take cards, discarding pairs, until no more pairs can be made. The player with the card that has no match is "stuck with the old maid" and loses. When playing with more than two players, the game is somewhat unusual in having one distinct loser rather than one distinct winner.


That gives a window into the thinking of the 1800's.

My neighborhood kids when I was growing up played this game a lot.

You wanted to avoid "the old black lady" (Old Maid) and the best play was to get just one wife... to take just one trick (fuck) to prevent someone from "Shooting the Moon"


What does "Shoot the Moon" mean?

That's Chad Thundercock.

If you score all the tricks (fucks) including the Old Maid then you are said to "Shoot the Moon" and rather than those cards being negative they turn positive.


So in the Old Maid cardgame if you went MGTOW and had no fucks (tricks) then another player could be Chad and "Shoot the Moon" and win.

Monogamy then was the optimal strategy for being certain no one could do that.


We played where all standard 52 cards were used.

The Queen of Spades ("the old black lady") was the Old Maid.

It was entirely based on the old slave days when the maids were usually black women.

Too politically incorrect for today.


[–]justcallmetarzan 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Totally an aside, but excellent use of putative. An undercelebrated word, IMHO.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This is a common legal term in family law. I once had a case where THREE putative father's showed up (the judge granted my motion for a DNA test).

[–]justcallmetarzan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I'm well aware - I practice family law as well.

[–]beachbbqlover 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Learn a new one every once in a while around here.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove 54 points55 points  (7 children)

Where I live, recently a 7 year old boy was killed while eating dinner by a stray bullet. The news interviewed the mom of the boy killed and she was distraught and sad. Not because her 7 year old son was killed, but because it meant she would be receiving less government money due to not having as may children anymore.

[–]19yoManChild 65 points66 points  (6 children)

I don't want to believe this, source?

[–]whyUsayDat 26 points27 points  (2 children)

I doubt you'll get a source. If that story were true it would have hit the frontpage in a heartbeat.

[–]afkb39sdfb 1 point2 points  (1 child)

[–]whyUsayDat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. It's not like anyone doubted shooting but a link helps.

[–]Keith_Valentine 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I personally dated a welfare queen who had one of her babies die, god bless him. And she lamented to me that she only got $500 a month in ebt now that one was dead, for her a toddler and a baby. I suggested that was plenty of money and I could maybe help her shop and stretch it further. She accused me of saying she was a bad mom.

I got some white hairs back then. I'm 31

[–]satanicpriest13 3 points4 points  (1 child)

One of the reasons crime is rampant today is because for the past 30 years the welfare state has thrown money at useless whores to have kids and not raise them properly. These kids grow up with narcissistic mothers and no male influence and turn to a life of no good. Single mothers are the root of all evil today.

[–]79rustyk10 2 points3 points  (0 children)

fully agreed. single moms are trash, nine times out of ten.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Classic lack of appreciation for the modern quality of life.

Jesus, this current crop don't spend enough time chatting with their grand parents.

Got an indoor toilet? Shut up. Got running water? Shut up. Got a fridge-freezer? Shut-up. Got access to cheap meat? Shut up. Got a car? Shut up. Got a smart-phone? Shut the FUCK up. God welfare payments even though you don't pay into the system? PISS THE HELL OFF WITH YOUR BULLSHIT.

Shit, I've come dangerously close to revealing that I'm sick of people claiming that things are "hard" at the moment when they've never been better by any qualitative metric.

[–]Mail_Order_Lutefisk 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The average proletariat in the West has a standard of living that was completely unimaginable for even kings 150 years ago.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know, try telling the average Prol that though.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're living in the Golden Age of Humanity. It's all downhill from here. The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse are saddling up and putting on their riding boots...

[–]30fretibanezguy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Can't link the article because it was some crap from facebook about a week ago, but I read a similar piece saying "Why are people so unable to find people to marry in recent decades??" These people don't even understand the concept of not wanting to get married.

[–]futureFizz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I haven't posted much in this sub as I'm just starting my journey here, but this was one of the BEST FUCKING THINGS I've ever read! A hat tip to you my good sir! 🎩

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Leave race out of it. If anything this trend is because of white women (blacks have long not married).

Race is a cope. It's all about power and money. Fuck race correlations, just talk about power and money. It's just an accident of history correlations for rich and powerful accrue to whites. People bitch about race and history far too much, the same goes for race and modernity.

[–]JackGetsIt 11 points12 points  (3 children)

(blacks have long not married)

If long is 30-50 years. You're right but if long is the last century you're wrong. Blacks use to divorce at lower rates then whites. From 1890 to 1950 a black child was more likely to grow up with married parents then a white child.

Larry Elder brings this up in a lot of his debates. He mentions it at the 1:26 mark in this video.


[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I mean 30-50 years. This isn't as new as the articles timeline. So relatively 30-50 is a ways back.

The article doesn't care about the 1980's

Edit: Still, race is the cause of fuck all, and an excuse for just as little.

[–]yomo86 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I personally think feminism in all its wrong forms hit black women the hardest. Suddenly, all personal and societal shortcoming could be attributed to the man. No man, much less the undomesticated black man, will put up with a screeching sista for the rest of his natural life.

[–]JackGetsIt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think if feminism and welfare disappeared tomorrow you'd see near zero screeching white or black women. Men would enjoy being around them more and women would re-connect and rediscover the value men provide. The core of a male female relationship is that men bring resources, safety, leadership, skills, and sharing of child raising responsibilities. Men shouldn't have to compete with government in these arenas and you mess up the flow of male and female relationship dynamics when women have a government husband to run too. Women would be a lot more inclined to keep men around if they weren't receiving handouts from the government.

Men would also be a lot more inclined to marry and stay around if they knew they weren't going to be financially raped and socially shamed for the rest of their lives if the women decides to eject from the partnership because of feelings.

Personally I think government should be out of marriage entirely. Married couples shouldn't get benefits over single people, or punished financially for being married.

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you realise that whining like a bitch about the downfall of TRP is contributing to the downfall of TRP (not that the downfall is actually happening but still)?

Provide some value yourself instead of telling us how this place has gone to shit.

You sound like one of those guys that say "man, I wish I could go back to the 50s. It was a much better time". Sure it was, bro. Sure it was.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

empowering males.

You empower a class of people by uplifting them or by attacking opponents of that class.

made up boogeymen

You would have a point except the boogeyman is real. You can ignore it. I choose to actively fight it.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You do sound like you noticed something, but you do not sound like someone who's starting to adapt.

[–]RageLionRising 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Journalism is toxic, femcentric, and deceitful.


Left wing journalism on media platforms that take funding from female-centric businesses is toxic and deceitful. We have a lot of right wing journalism, too. Let's not go overboard by attacking all journalism.

  1. Red Eye Radio
  2. Larry Elder
  3. Steven Crowder
  4. Computing Forever
  5. Tucker Carlson
  6. Styxhexenhammer666
  7. Karen Straughan
  8. Ben Shapiro
  9. Rush Limbaugh
  10. Sean Hannity
  11. Blonde in the Belly of the Beast
  12. Some Black Guy
  13. Lauren Southern
  14. Stefan Molyneux
  15. Michael Savage
  16. Mark Levin
  17. Milo Yiannopoulous
  18. Alex Jones
  19. AM radio in general.

And then we have moderate classical liberal types like Philip Defranco, Dave Rubin, Sargon of Akkad, and Tim Pool. Defranco alone with a following of five million+ is probably the most moderate, center, down to earth man in America right now.

Not all is lost.

[–]JohnIan101 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Nice list.

So how long before Milo returns?

[–]RageLionRising 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Oh, he's already back. Playing the public trickster as always. Check him out on Youtube.

[–]JohnIan101 0 points1 point  (0 children)


I haven't heard squat in some time.

[–]grandaddychimp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why do women and Leftists ALWAYS have trouble telling cause and effect?

Leftists don't understand the basic laws of supply and demand. That's why they support crazy things like minimum wage (price floor on the cost of labor) and price controls on drugs (price ceilings on the cost of drugs).

Price floors create a surplus and price ceilings create shortages. Econ 101.

Minimum wage is a price floor that creates a surplus of labor (unemployment) and price ceilings on drugs create a shortage of drugs like we see in Canada.

Cause: Central economic planning

Effect: Poverty, misery, tyranny, and death

Like women in their default programming, leftists think with their emotions and not with logic. If they thought logically, they would reject central economic planning in favor of the free market economy.

[–]fastnail 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I laugh to myself as I know that the biggest losers to Feminism are women...loneliness and end of a futile life with cats is their fate.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sometimes I wonder how many marriages Vegas has destroyed? How many millions of people fucked and cheated saying the phrase...'what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas"?

Can't wait to see that city turn into a meth zone.

[–]asianincel -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

yes golden zealot i took you here lets see how long you last lmao

[–]Golden_Zealot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This man said he is a feminist, check his comments.

[–]Golden_Zealot -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Idc bb, as long as ur heer