Blue Pill ExampleMan works himself to death for his family, still treated like a shit. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Klldarkness


This is the type of treatment men can expect in society these days. This man worked 16hrs a day, 7 days a week, to provide for his family. Instead of being appreciated, he was relegated to the COUCH.

His wife felt he was working too hard. Never home! So one day he comes home, not to a hot meal, or a loving family, but a bitch wife that gives him even more stress.

Feels before reals in action!

She even stated in the interview that he worked this hard just to take them to Disneyland every year.

The article isn't about the man at all, in the end. It's all about how the wife feels about the argument they had before she went to bed, how horrible she feels that her last words to him were in anger.

Instead of talking about the dangers of over working, or how men are constantly stressed, it's all about her.

It's actually disgusting. Even in death, it'll all be about "her".

Let this be your wake up call, if you haven't swallowed the pill just yet.

You will never earn 'her' appreciation. Work for yourself, and your future! Every dollar you spend, is time spent. Don't waste your time, or money, on others. Be the best version of you that you can be, and make sure that you're the one profiting from it.

Thanks to /u/RedPilledGodEmperor for sourcing this:

This chick is now FUCKING the dead husband's brother. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3995094/woman-ashley-murrell-husband-mikey-died-sofa-night-after-row-now-with-brother/

Complete outrage. It's kinda obvious that some type of fuckery was involved.

[–]Docbear64 302 points303 points  (62 children)

This is the guy gents this is the man so many men claim to want to be . Provider ,caregiver , committed husband , father, hard worker who provides his family not just with the basics of life but the luxuries as well and what does Mikey get ? Overworked to the point of exhaustion a wife who berates him for his attempted sacrifice ( shall we take bets if she would have been understanding if he did actually take her advice and work less?) , and death at 36 fucking years old .

By any classical standard you can argue this was a " good man " . It seems like some guys have a really hard time embracing the idea of being focused on yourself first. I get it there is such a thing as being too egotistical , everything in moderation . If the people I love are in pain naturally for most of us it's going to cause us some pain too but this is the opposite extreme .

I bet poor Mikey was a nice guy living the script he was taught and this is how his very brief life ends .... on the couch . R.I.P.

[–]crobertson89 157 points158 points  (35 children)

Nope. If he worked less and they had a little less money he'd be a pathetic excuse for a man and an inadequate provider and a worthless man. There's no winning.

[–]WhorehouseVet 45 points46 points  (22 children)

Mikey has the ball, if he doesn't like the game being played by other children (women), he can just take his ball away and go home.

Ball being the metaphor for his time/money/commitment. But you know MSM, when something that serves the interest of men but not women, it's evil.

[–]harsha_hs 23 points24 points  (21 children)

what ball he has? if he takes his ball(time/money/investment) he will be slapped with restraining order for domestic abuse. there is no winning.

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[–]harsha_hs 7 points8 points  (3 children)

many of those idiots have never married.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Or they're new to it and think she is special, they're different, and it wont happen to them.

[–]X-Trem0 5 points6 points  (6 children)

Well, in some of the countries here, not being married counts for shit... if she can prove that she depends on you and that you were providing for her for so many years bla bla bla

you're fucked up anyway

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[–]X-Trem0 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I'm not even in the place of getting to live together but when i do i will take good care of that... when the time comes maybe i'll post a small guide.

One of the tricks I've heard tho is to pay EVERYTHING 50/50

[–]lopsidedlucky 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Wrong. There is winning. He would be alive, on TRP learning to bang bitches 10 times hotter than his ex-wife. Would it suck loosing his kids and some cash? Sure, but which do you take. Some suck situation for a few years or death.

This bluepill bullshit is literally fucking killing men. This is not okay. Don't be that guy.

[–]fromthecrypt8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That may or may not happen because NAWALT. But yeah it is not unlikely at all. Although it is more probable that she will "only" try to get sole custody of the kids, take half your shit and bad mouth you to her friends and your common friends. Even that is better than staying though.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 18 points19 points  (1 child)

She will bitch if you don't work enough according to her. She will bitch if you work to much according to her.

There is no sweet spot, only bitching, blaming, ungratefulness, and complaining.

Your only hope is to ignore it and be strong enough to drag her out of the modern woman's perpetual bitch fest- except that is even more exhausting than working 18 hours a day.

[–]metalhead4 24 points25 points  (2 children)

I'm a 26 year old man child. I got money. I got toys. I got options. I'm a strong independent man who don't need no woman.

[–]Windryder 6 points7 points  (1 child)

heh. You've got a point, but the fact is that the law and women's attitudes DO fuck men over.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then don't fall for it like our betabux sucker here

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[–]crobertson89 8 points9 points  (4 children)

One option. There are ways around this situation. Maybe I'm just a dreamer but my wife doesn't pull this shit. She knows that if she wants to keep the lifestyle she lives then sacrifices must be made by both of us. I come home to dinner ready and a clean house. I get my rocks off pretty much whenever and however I want. I don't worry about all my money getting spent and an consulted on any purchases over 50$

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 10 points11 points  (3 children)

These are known as "boundaries." Try it guys. They actually work and most women will fall in line with reasonable boundaries. The rest can buy a rabbit and fuck themselves.

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[–]rocknrollchuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look up "How To Build Boundaries During Your Transition" by strategos_autokrator

[–]Yashugan00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The degree to which he will be shamed and belittled depends on how much her sister's husband makes

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (21 children)

i say we epitomize this man as "The Provider", we should all learn from him and at least give him that respect

[–]zeeohsixer 14 points15 points  (5 children)

I agree. From henceforth he shall be known as "The Provider". He doesn't have to die in vain.

[–]1337EMP 17 points18 points  (4 children)

His name was Mikey Murrell

[–]Dragon_Garoo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This. So. Much. THIS.


[–]lopsidedlucky 18 points19 points  (13 children)

There is no respect for being "The provider" and each fuck who upvoted you needs to be banned. You are endorsing the disney narrative and you don't even see what you are doing. You are literally spreading the bluepill narrative while trying to read about the dangers of the bluepill narrative.

Yes we can feel sorry for him, yes we can pity him, yes we can feel his pain and know it's depth but no, asking everyone to respect him because he propagated the blue pill narrative is absurd. That's like asking us to respect a gazelle that got eaten by lion because it was a dinner.

This is the red pill. It is not meant to be pretty, it is not meant to help your fragile snowflake sensibilities, it is not meant to be blue, it is not meant for white knights. It's truth and at times that is ugly.

[–]Moneyley 13 points14 points  (0 children)

In essence, he paid the ultimate price for being married. I disagree with you but only on the premise that each upvote needs to be banned and that he shouldnt be respected. None of us can deny that he paid the ultimate sacrifice for his snowflake. Did Mikey do anything ethically wrong? Morally wrong? He didnt. How can anybody say that a man taking care of his family is wrong? There are redpill men who are married and may have been lucky enough to save their marriage and or just have a good old fashioned reliable and devoted wife. Those men also bust their asses off to provide. If I was you, instead of seeing it as putting "The Provider" on a pinnacle, see it as "this could happen to you if you are oblivious to the truth". Ive been here for a few years and have seen several provider stories and how men have got cucked, none that's resonated like his.

What happened to him is in our DNA... providing goes back to ancient times; however, we've only recently come to terms to mitigate some of the providing we do and reverting more to self preservation as taught on TRP. This is why women claim "there are no more real men out there" because most of us woke up and not paid for first dates anymore. We are effectively mirroring a feminine ideology and asking "whats in it for me?" Girls dont like that. Yet, as other's have posted. Mikey WAS that REAL MAN that they are seeking and this is what happened to him. Both Mikey and his solipsistic bitch ex wife should be idolized here and this story needs to be put on the side bar.

His name was Mikey Murrell

[–]fedja 12 points13 points  (1 child)

We don't really know the story. If he was killing himself to provide a premium lifestyle to a ditzy instagram attentionwhore of a wife who doesn't pull her weight, he's an idiot. If he struggled to provide a respectable living for his family, as in his kids, he's a tragic hero.

There's few things I won't do to offer my kids a prosperous start to life. I also sometimes work ungodly hours to give them a leg up on their peers. That's what a provider does.

Killing yourself so you bitchy wife gets to go on an expensive Disneyland trip every year cause the fucking princess won't settle for a modestly priced holiday isn't being a provider.

Theres a good and bad lesson to be learned here, depending on how you interpret the story.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, was there an autopsy? Those pupils are looking mighty blown up in every picture. Just sayin'

[–]X-Trem0 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Well, like a black widow, once she got everything she wanted from him the best thing to do was for him to get out of the way... the thing with his brother... well, I'm pretty sure something was happening long before he died... I mean, he was never home, how can i go on always by myself and all that bullshit we are tired of hear.

The only hope is that she crosses path with some other guy who treats her like she treated her now dead husband...

[–]Trooper_1868 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nothing more admirable than working your ass off to provide for your kids so they have more opportunities than you did. They dont seem to mention that in the article. IF you can't see that, then maybe you shouldn't be on here.

[–]TangoZulu 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I'm going to guess that you're rather young because your post reeks of immaturity. Mikey is certainly a tragic lesson when viewed through a red-pill lens, but that doesn't mean that as men we shouldn't at least respect him for giving everything he had to provide for his family under the "rules" of our society. By all accounts he was a hard-working man and a good father. He was simply mislead by society and lacked the insight of the red pill that we benefit from. Why should that be looked down upon? We were all in his spot once, after all.

Claiming that "he propagated the blue pill narrative" is about as absurd as claiming that the Jews propagated the holocaust. Feminism, the government and the media propagate the blue-pill. And they enforce it's rules upon us all. As men, we need to stick together. Feminism and the blue pill took root because they were effective in dividing men and then conquering us.

We surely don't want to be the gazelle, but that doesn't mean the gazelle doesn't deserve respect for contributing itself to the circle of life. Native Americans had great respect for the animals they hunted and killed; they didn't look down upon the fallen bison, they revered it. Mikey may have been a gazelle, but perhaps that was because no one taught him that he could be the lion. Yet just as the bison provides food and clothing to the Native Americans, Mikey provided us with a valuable lesson to learn from. And I for one respect him for it.

[–]superjoshuavalentin 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think you misunderstood what he meant.

[–]circlhat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is why I hate it when people say nice guys aren't genuine, women love nice guys, TO USE

[–]RedPill115 108 points109 points  (23 children)

This really sounded like a red pill story.

  • Guy marries a hot looking wife has kids
  • Starts to buy into the idea that he'll get more points for more beta behavior - works more, longer hours, all in the service of someone else - his boss, his kids, his family. His life becomes completely dominated by beta behavior and he loses all alpha status.
  • His wife predictably loses respect and attraction to him. She's actually an ok wife, getting mad at the things that are causing the loss of attraction. Like a typical beta idiot, he doubles down on beta behavior, thinking taking his family to disney is going to make up for it.
  • This is never going to work, but he also gets unlucky and dies as a result of the stress and trying to sleep on the lumpy couch his wife kicked him out onto.

Red Pill Lesson: Some beta behavior is necessary in a long term relationship, but when your beta is more than your alpha your wife will lose attraction for you. When you see yourself heading that way at all, figure out how to avoid it. Change jobs, etc. If you double down on even more beta behavior, not only will you lose your wife but your job might work you to death.

Alternative Theory: A crazy woman rode the cock carousel but eventually hit the wall. So she marries a delta/gamma guy, thinking this will settle things down for her. As time goes on she gets more and more crazy being trapped with such a pushover. He works more and more hours to get away from her craziness. One night he comes home from exhausted and collapsed in their bed. She loses her shit, and smothers him to death with a pillow. She drags his body out onto the couch while still warm to "discover" the next morning and make it look like an accident. She creates a sympathetic story about how he was a good guy who was going to take the family to disney world to divert attention away from herself.

[–]superman127 32 points33 points  (2 children)

Foul play was my first thought, especially since she's with his brother now.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 41 points42 points  (1 child)

You can bet if a young woman died after a fight with her husband so severe that she slept on the couch and then the husband started fucking her younger sister days later that he would be charged with murder. EVERY SINGLE WOMAN ON THE JURY would vote to convict him even without any evidence.

[–]Daddie0 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was thinking the same thing, imagine if the roles were reversed? There would have been a lynch mob after the guy until he was convicted of murder, and sentenced to death, even if he was innocent.

[–]1015814_13 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Couple more facts to add to your red pill story: 1. He didn't just 'marries hot looking wife has kids' - she already had a daughter from a previous relationship. He adopted the daughter when they married. Then the couple had twins. 2. He used to lift. Then got an injury (lifting weights) and was diagnosed with spinal arthritis.

[–]UnKnownSurviving 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Perfect explanation. I couldn't have said it better. Really good point of view. Too many guys get fucked to death, and there's no or not even one appreciation.

[–]X-Trem0 9 points10 points  (0 children)

sadly we are talking about figuratively being fucked to death...

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[–]JackieBronassis 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Dude. If one mistake is all it takes to ruin your relationship, then good riddance. Marriage can be cool, if you work hard on yourself first.

[–]yomo86 4 points5 points  (1 child)

His opinion is stark but considering how many mistakes go unnoticed by a man every /first/ can be the last. Some women like my aunt lose attraction when hubby buys dolls for his daughter, some when the man cooks. It's not an objective point system - only fringe behaviour like this guy is blatantly noticable to us.

[–]Wilreadit 17 points18 points  (0 children)

RP lesson. NEVER get married. Not with Diana, nor Cleopatra nor Shanequa. NEVER

[–]aanarchist 6 points7 points  (4 children)

she's like a 6 tops. i can understand dudes simping themselves for 10s and 9s but this is a dude who's easy on the eyes and he killed himself working for a vacation for a woman who is neither attractive nor pleasant to be around. that's fucking sad. the sex can't have been good either so like, what the fuck. he just threw his life away into nothing.

[–]CrazedHyperion 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Just because a woman is pretty doesn't mean that she is a good fuck partner. At least that's my opinion. Feel free to shoot it down.

[–]aanarchist 4 points5 points  (1 child)

no you're exactly right. not sure where you got the idea that i thought otherwise.

[–]CrazedHyperion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone posted that she was very good looking, I believe, and equated that with being a good lay. I mean, beauty is subjective, right, however, I wouldn't get a BJ from Quasimodo, the hunchback of Notre Dame, even if he was reputed to be the best thing since sliced bread.

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 6 points7 points  (2 children)

He didnt have kids. He adopted those two. And he posted about raising $3k towards IVF with her (and needed another $3k) a couple months before his death

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[–]Daddie0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

His kids were probably his brother's already. Daddy finally came home!

[–]CrazedHyperion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They really should investigate if there was some life insurance policy on the guy. Actually, as a matter of fact, I think it's a bad idea to take life insurance on yourself with the wife as beneficiary. Because she might get ideas.

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[–]Tie5o11 96 points97 points  (4 children)

They were probably fucking when he was still alive, as well.

[–]UnKnownSurviving 56 points57 points  (2 children)

Damn. I feel for that dead guy. Total lack of respect.


Holy shit. She's a mother. She doesn't even change! AWALTs. And she probably murdered him.

[–]X-Trem0 6 points7 points  (0 children)

bwahahaha yeah!!! black widow!!!

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[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 17 points18 points  (7 children)

Yeah. It's freaking disgusting. I saw the link to the story in the comments of the original article. I have a brother who is getting married (fingers crossed that they don't get divorced) and if they broke up or he died, I could NEVER consider banging his fiancé. That's some fucked up shit right there.

[–]CrazedHyperion 6 points7 points  (6 children)

In the old (biblical) days, you were required to marry your brother's widow if he passed away.

[–]UnKnownSurviving 14 points15 points  (5 children)

Also, in those days, you were required to STONE the bitch for adultery.

I see why it was required. They're AWALTs.

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hahaha its horrific to most people, but IMO without removing capitalism entirely, the only real moral solution is to start stoning bitches again. they are all the same and will do/say anything to weasel out of that truth and continue seeking self-gratifying behavior.

either that, or at least get rid of any notion of child support and if the bitch cheats, only give enough food stamps for the kid. make her get her own provider then, when shes SOL and its a dealbreaker for anyone new and start granting custody to dads, maybe even a paternal support program lol

or end capitalism and remove the motive for wealth and any idea of class based dominance/control and leave that entirely to independently willed third party individuals. then the family unit is obsolete, all children are supported by an outside entity (workers alliance/semblance of gov't) and people can just fuck whomever anytime and walk away with zero socioeconomic consequence

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (3 children)

the only real moral solution is to start stoning bitches again.

We should just try letting husbands spank them again when they get out of line before we split open skulls.

[–]Lost_My_Keys 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You can probably bet the brother has fallen into the same trap. This girl is a praying mantis

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I wonder what the mother/father of the guys think about this.

[–]wendysNO1wcheese 6 points7 points  (9 children)

I really hope karma hits this bitch x50.

[–]Windryder 17 points18 points  (7 children)

There is clearly no such thing as karma. Evidence; way too many shitty people in the world doing shitty selfish things hurting other people and getting away with it all the time, and often being praised for it. The only consequences for people are those devised by other people.

Edit: bunch of ouija board enthusiasts posting after me here. Make sure to "knock on wood" or you'll "curse the team" ding dongs. Belief in things like karma, or crediting success or failure to luck is mental weakness.

[–]wendysNO1wcheese 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh there isn’t? I never knew that. Wow, groundbreaking. Sticky this mods.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Karma for her AND the brother.

[–]Shakydrummer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Deplorable...but also not surprised.

[–]yomo86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

'muh sides.

That is RP porn come to life - in uHD.

[–]Shariabluew 43 points44 points  (1 child)

Didn't she hook up with his brother after? Wasn't the cause of death choking for an unknown reason in his sleep? Bitch totally murdered his ass.

[–]blu02 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Two months later she's dating his brother. They're happy together now. But wait, that doesn't mean she feels any different about her husband. Getting all the attention is probably bringing good cash. http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/wife-whose-husband-died-after-fight-finds-love-with-his-brother-just-two-months-later/news-story/fc86529ace12fa994bf3ef85d1f90c17

[–]Radioactivebuny 81 points82 points  (13 children)

I'm at work and archive.is is blocked but you're saying this dude literally fucking DIED and it's all about the wife bitching?

Fuck me... You know as much as the loneliness stings, I have my dignity as a silent but lifelong companion so I guess it could be worse.

[–]Klldarkness[S] 43 points44 points  (6 children)

That's exactly what I'm saying.

He worked himself to DEATH, and it's all about his wife and family.

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 17 points18 points  (1 child)

They had a "heated argument" and she made him sleep on the sofa, then he "choked to death" in his sleep according to the coroner, but it was "inconclusive" on how exactly he choked.

Really gets the ol' noggin' joggin'

[–]Windryder 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Let's not forget that one of "his" kids was "adopted". She definitely had CC experience.

[–]CrazedHyperion 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Since he wanted to take his kids to Disney every year, I guess Disnaey is to blame for the tragedy.

[–]AussiePhil82 24 points25 points  (4 children)

Also, his wife waited a while two months after he died before spreading her legs for her brother in law.

[–]X-Trem0 19 points20 points  (0 children)

BWAHAHAHAHA do you really believe that? I don't for even one fucking second

[–]UnKnownSurviving 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Yeah, right. Don't believe that for a second. We're still waiting for that autopsy. I'm fairly certain she pre-planned it, and just choked the hell out of his tired neck. Nah, I don't believe anything these bitches say nowadays.

Word of advice: Watch what they do, and not what they say.

A man will say what he means, and means it.

A woman won't. She'll flat out lie to your face. And think of nothing wrong.

[–]CrazedHyperion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, before marriage. I'll bet she spread the same day.

[–]RedPill_Swinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're not that naïve, are you? She's been fucking his brother all along and she had to come out two months later because people would have known anyway

[–]spcarlin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, BBC and other British media covered it

[–]Reformed65 143 points144 points  (52 children)

Time for some common sense folks.

She had told him that she was worried he was running himself into the ground and told her husband to sleep on the sofa for the night when they failed to resolve the dispute.

First off, when someone comes home from a long day of work, you don't start discrediting their work. The last thing they need is to work 16 hours a day and then to come home to a bitching wife. And second, if you care so much, why did you tell him to sleep on the sofa? Great great, yeah the husband works 16 hours and forget having some nice rewarding sex, he gets told to sleep on the hard sofa rather than the comfy bed.

Remember, the wife declines sex, one of her duties as a wife "you go girl! You independent!" the husband declines giving resources and money, one of his duties as a husband "You're deadbeat!" and if its in response to the declining of sex "you're a pig! Respect your wife!"

Even more tragically, she later discovered that Mr Murrell was working extra shifts as a carpet cleaner so that he cold save money to take her to Prague for their anniversary on July 3.

The tragic part is that now she can't go to Prague, not the fact that he worked extra shifts. She doesn't care about his (loss of) life, she cares more about losing her access to her hard-working husband. Now who's going to take her to Prague and Disney?!

“When he came home that night he was a mess, I have never seen him so exhausted. I couldn’t stand seeing him like that and I got angry. I was sick of it."

You got angry? You were sick of it? YOU?! You weren't the one working 16 hours a day.

“I had a go at him and told him to sleep on the sofa which was stupid because I really just wanted him around more.”

And his money.

“I started screaming ‘your dad’s dead’ to my 14-year-old and ran into the street screaming ‘Mikey’s dead’.

One, you don't fucking yell at a 14 year old that his father is dead. It's bad enough that his father- perhaps the only adult in his life that gave a shit about him/her- is now gone and has to put up with you, he/she got the news in the most dramatically way ever.

Oh running to the street? Yeah, pure attention seeking. "oh woe is me. My BB is dead, give me attention." anybody here would call the ambulance rather than screaming in the streets.

[–]Klldarkness[S] 57 points58 points  (1 child)

Thank you!

This was a great synopsis of this tragedy.

This is my takeaway as well. She makes it all about her.

And the fact that she let into him, after seeing how "horrible" he looked? Jesus Christ what a bitch.

[–]UnKnownSurviving 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Yeah. lol. That bitch would be out the fucking door.

[–]PillTheRed 34 points35 points  (7 children)

Who will take care of her? Look it up, this cunt of a woman is now fucking her dead husbands brother 3 months after. I highly doubt it was the first time. My guess, she was fucking him behind the guys back for some time.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Woah. You can't be serious. If that's true, that is some fucked up shit. Heck, I love pussy but if I was dating a woman who died, the last thing I would think about is fucking her sister. She could have fucked any other dude, but is fucking the husband's brother. Also, the brother is a piece of shit for doing that.

EDIT: here is the story. What a real piece of work she is. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3995094/woman-ashley-murrell-husband-mikey-died-sofa-night-after-row-now-with-brother/

[–]X-Trem0 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Maybe the brother just wants to get her close and get his revenge on her after seeing what she have done to his bro...

I know I would

[–]my_sfw_alias 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On to blooper brother numero dos

[–]UnKnownSurviving 24 points25 points  (2 children)

Yeah. If this bitch said it to me, SHE IS OUT THE FUCKING DOOR. I owe NOTHING TO HER. Be nice or GET THE FUCK OUT. Simple.

Seriously, too many guys get fucked to death, for being nice. I used to be nice, but niceness doesn't get paid as well, as being stone cold. Not as nearly as much.


After reading it again, I just fucking laughed. That bitch would be out the fuckin door. No second thoughts. Any backlash, from anyone, I don't care.

[–]WhorehouseVet 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Except they were married. TBP teaches men to self-sacrifice all for a woman's intimacy and approval.

[–]UnKnownSurviving 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Regardless, she would be out the fuckin door. If she wants back in, fuck that shit. I'll be calling my lawyer the next day. I will NOT let myself be disrespected or let her destroy my peace.

I will have none of it.

[–]red-arctic-tern 7 points8 points  (2 children)

You sound like a social justice warrior. The man in question wasn't earning respect. You are trying to negotiate respect, that doesn't work.

[–]Reformed65 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Did I say that she needs to give respect? No you tell me, where did I say that "oh she needs to give respect"

I called out her lies, her fake image and deception, find me where I said "she needed to give him respect".

We're far from SJWs, farer than any other groups. We are angry at the lies and deception that our people are facing in this society. Unlike real SJWs who are contributing to the decline of the West, we wish to save the West or by the very least, buy it some time until a miracle happens.

[–]lopsidedlucky 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You're being downvoted by SJW's because you called out SJW's on the red pill. I gave you an upvote back to share in the bullshit bro.

[–]Daddie0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lesson to learn here boys:

When your wife tells you to sleep on the sofa after working a 8+ hour shift you tell her:

"Fuck you, you don't want to sleep near me? Fine. You sleep on the fucking sofa, the bed is mine."

[–]SovereignSoul76 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had a go at him and told him to sleep on the sofa which was stupid because I really just wanted him around more.

Classic woman logic/gaslighting.

"..I really just wanted him around more" "But that makes no sense. You forced him out of his own bed." "IT DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE SENSE! I'M GRIEVING AND HAVE A VAGINA HOLE!"

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (4 children)

What a piece of shit brother, anyone who betrays blood like that is a mild psychopath. Seems like the dead brother got all the altruistic genes, and the living brother got all the selfish genes.

[–]DONT_reply_with_THIS 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Betas will back stab you at the drop of a hat.

I don't understand why anyone would make friends with a beta is beyond me. I cant respect them and we have nothing to talk about.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Blood is different from friendship, don't confuse the two.

[–]DONT_reply_with_THIS 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Betas don't differentiate between blood and friendship which is the point. They're worthless as friends and I distance myself from my one of my beta brothers

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This isn't Beta, this is a mild form of psychopathy. A beta follows alphas and rules, that's it.

Genetically stealing the mate of your blood relative can be detrimental as the genetic payouts would be low, and the gains would also be low.

For example your nieces and nephews have 25% of your genes. Stealing your brothers mate for the chance of having children that are 50% yours is not worth the danger to your life, to your brothers life and to the lives of your nieces and nephews. The risk of failure is far greater than the gains of success.

A more beneficial mating strategy would be to mate with a new mate, resulting in more offspring having your genes while maintaining the health and lives of your nieces and nephews.

He had no excuse for stealing his dead brothers wife who he was probably fucking all along, he has to have mild psychopathic traits.

[–]xeneize93 19 points20 points  (0 children)

This reminds me so much of my dad, this really hit me. I can imagine this man doing everything he can to be a good man and do what he was taught to do which is provide for his family. My dad did the same, chased my mom trying to make her happy, going on unnecessary trips and all and at the end she still left him. I really feel for this guy.

[–]PillTheRed 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Dig a little further, this bitch is now fucking the guys brother not more than a few months later. Now, was this a new thing that happened? Or, was she fucking him the entire time? We all know the answer to that here. Deep down she is probably happy he died. But, again, we all know that she isn't going to pass up on the free attention.

[–]Moctezuma1 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I dislike people like her. I was with someone whom always complained I never made enough money or that I was too smart to work with low income families. She never appreciated that while she worked 3pm to midnight shift, I bathe our two kids, fed them dinner, did homework, parent conference with their teachers, pick them up from school, cleaned our house all while having a full time job too. She left me and our kids to be with another man who earns more money, has a big house with a pool and has a fancy truck. Now I'm happy with my two kids, paying my mortgage for my small house and with 2 jobs now. Everyday is a struggle, but I just pretended she was at work anyways.

[–]BadMoles 10 points11 points  (0 children)

She left her kids? There's a word for women like that and it's not polite.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

There is a point that everyone is missing here. She told him to sleep on the lounge, he did. Any real man would have laughed in her face and said, how about you sleep on the lounge whilst pulling the covers over himself and rolling over for a good night's sleep. As for the rest of the story, wow, you couldn't even make this shit up.

[–]IntellingetUsername 3 points4 points  (0 children)

100% agree. It's totally this guys fault for being a fucking chump.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 13 points14 points  (2 children)

What the fuck? She should have slept on the freaking couch and let him have the bed for working so hard. What a bitch.

[–]Ker_Splish 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yeah that's where I'm at myself, if the wife is getting all dramatic and insists we're sleeping separately then her ass gets the couch. The bed's mine, I fucking paid for both and I'll sleep where I'm gonna sleep.

Also, if I maintain frame I'll often catch her sneaking back into the bedroom in search of forgiveness and weiner, which I "reluctantly provide" lol...

[–]returnofthemackX 8 points9 points  (0 children)

When you accept her forgiveness sex, you enable the behaviour because all she has to do for being a bitch is giving you sex afterwards (which you should be getting anyway).

[–]ChunkyPuff2000 12 points13 points  (3 children)

When my daughter was born I understood that if I keep working as I do,I will miss her growing up. So the same very day I resigned from my job and took another one with smaller salary, but with much more comfortable working hours. I told my wife that I love her, but if she thinks that this decision of mine is not right, she can file a divorce anytime.So now several years later,I also have a son and pretty much happy. I enjoy my time with the kids and wife. We're still married for seven years now and maybe we cannot afford as much as we could before,but I must tell, no matter how hard we've been fighting I never slept on the couch.I think she knows without me telling that I can do well on my own if needed.

[–]Docbear64 5 points6 points  (2 children)

You will always be able to buy your kids gifts , but no amount of money would ever afford you those missed hours , days, or nights together . good on you man .

[–]ChunkyPuff2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nothing is perfect , we still fight here and there. I used to be there, working 12+ hours shifts, chasing deadlines and customers. However my wife never made a fight out of this. She would even take my cellphone and almost force me to sleep and never there was any couch.Oh and you to have to love make up sex. Anyway, I think I truly understand what this poor man gone through. Is a downward spiral you cannot stop. I think that setting clear boundaries between us and a support of a person that really loves me allowed me to avoid his fate.For now. I am a beta.

[–]Gruppenzwang 8 points9 points  (0 children)

So she got mad at him for being exhausted and in the second she noticed he was dead she started screaming "YOUR DAD IS DEAD"? Well, what a lovely woman.

[–]Moneyley 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Saw this article early yesterday morning. I'm glad somebody posted it.

I'm saddened mainly because he really embodied the type of man that women would call "a real man" and reinforces the mantra that TRP propagates- women dont really know what they want. Dude took care of the kids (i think they weren't actually his), busted his ass of working because he wanted to provide his princess a luxury vacation. The dude was totally in love, so much so that he was blind to all that was going on (his wife was probably flirting, at the least, with his brother)

In Memory of all the hard working men who strive to give the best for their family at whatever the price..... I would like to nominate THIS story and Mikey Murrell to the side bar.

Also, this needs to be archived under "His name was Mikey Murrell"

[–]kmecha9 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The husband literally worked himself to death selflessly for the family and the wife still complains and is treated like the victim : /

He was even working extra 16 hours shifts to save up for their anniversary. The wife got mad and had him sleep on the sofa before his death.

Edit: Yikes Same "Woman whose husband died after she banished him to the sofa has found love again with his brother" Sounds like a black widow spider....Is she really in love again so quickly or looking for another disposable male? Seems a bit too soon for supposed griefing widow.


[–]relativebeingused 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I had to look up just what the fuck a "beauty therapist" is and it's even bigger bullshit than I thought. Women, this is what you spend your fucking money on? If so, maybe you have enough already.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's another term for "Part-Time Welfare Claimant"

Honestly, it's one of the shakiest, most unreliable "professions" going.

[–]beginner_ 6 points7 points  (1 child)

To all married/cohabitating guys:

The night you sleep on the couch is the night the relationship ended. In case of LTR it's simple: Find a place to stay ASAP and move out. Best if you have family, then you can go there straight without actually sleeping on the couch. If you are married you are fucked. You now need to pretend all is fine while secretly planing the divorce and trying to save as much as possible.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Find a place to stay ASAP

Like sleeping on the couch it is almost never sound legal strategy to "move out." Move HER out. You stay in YOUR home with YOUR kids.

[–]pbgswd 7 points8 points  (0 children)

what a whore .... anyway, I really like it when you said this:

Don't waste your time, or money, on others. Be the best version of you that you can be, and make sure that you're the one profiting from it.

[–]yomo86 5 points6 points  (1 child)

The bizzarre odd thing, though, if he had beaten her ass and drunk himself into oblivion every night while still making decent money, she would been so much on Love Mountain.

[–]79rustyk10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i thought the exact same thing.

[–]TheAC997 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Don't ever date a chick with eyebrows like that.

[–]brinkleybuzz 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Bitter RP lesson learned. Nice guys finish last.

We shouldn't blame a women for doing exactly what nature programmed them to do; use sex to get what they need and want from men ... money, security, comfort, protection, social status, professional advancement, good genes for mating, etc. Women only get away with as much or as little as men allow them to.

Mikey's death is his own fault because he allowed himself to be used and abused. I feel bad for him and those who lost him, but a man should never allow this to happen to himself.

Also, if a chick ever tells me to sleep on the couch in my home and not in the bed I paid for?! The next place she'll be sleeping is at the local shelter.

[–]gmwbh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don't do what this guy did. And don't go to Disneyland and other such nonsense. Also don't get girls with mental disorders

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

“I started screaming ‘your dad’s dead’ to my 14-year-old and ran into the street screaming ‘Mikey’s dead’.

Way to keep it together for your kids

[–]YiloMiannopoulos 5 points6 points  (0 children)

How the fuck did he die?? Why was that story all about her feelings???

“It’s strange how from something so awful, something good can happen. They are really happy together"

Bitch your husband died and now you're fucking his brother. That's beyond fucked up.

[–]Kommanderdude 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah I don't think he died of exhaustion. He apparently choked in his sleep. Something fishy here boys. I think she was fucking his brother the whole time and got rid of him. And who gets banished to the couch? Last time my ltr tried that I just rolled over and did say a word. She ended up leaving to go to the couch. She came back. Lol

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Where's the news?

If you don't respect yourself, don't expect other people will.

If you make a woman your mission, she will despise you for that.

This guy was probably addicted to the external validation which usually came from the wife. This is why it is so important to be self reliant and to be able to validate yourself internally.

Whomever this woman is fucking now is none of our business.

[–]19yoManChild 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Would love to nail down a specific cause of death, as it is not mentioned in the article.

[–]Klldarkness[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah, best the article gives is that he choked to death.

There may be an update at some point, which would be nice.

[–]UnKnownSurviving 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That should show soon. Unless the bitch has money and bribed the hell out of that coroner. Money can do a lot of things, and we all know that bitches like her, will just cover her shit, and make herself a victim of some shit.

[–]blu02 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chocked to death. Cause inconclusive.

[–]X-Trem0 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The poor bastard probably wanted to take her to places because it was the only time she was not nagging the whole time...

positive reinforcement guys, they treat you like shit so far you don't do what they want...

[–]fromthecrypt8 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As much as I wanna write grotesque shit about what this utter piece of thrash whore deserves, let's just focus on the learning experience this story provides: Work for you and your future only.

Apart from some cool experiences and necessities, give your kids the TOOLS to make it on their own, dont give them too much stuff. Redpill your sons from early age!

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From the article:

When he came home that night he was a mess, I have never seen
him so exhausted. I couldn’t stand seeing him like that and I got
angry. I was sick of it.

I had a go at him and told him to sleep on the sofa

Yup - he's working too hard so she kicks him out of the bed (that he pays for) to sleep on the sofa. And these are HER words, you can bet the reality wasn't quite like this.

She only regrets any of this when the guy died.... and she's even using this to get publicity and attention.

[–]Domida 2 points3 points  (0 children)

After a 16 hour shift to support my family. You'll bet your arse that bed is mine.

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[–]axeAce90 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gentlemen, this is not a one-off event. This has happened MANY times. Only difference is that this was reported on. Rollo Tomassi told us....women can't understand or appreciate the sacrifices men make to even be a man, let alone take care of his family. There is only superficial appreciation at best, but it is never bone deep. Not as bone deep as a man's drive to provide for his family is. The woman just wants the benefits and could care less about how he is running on fumes, so long as she can get Starbucks and Jimmy Choo shoes and take 100,000 Instagram pics a day.

[–]ast201 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Can't bear to read this. Makes me angry as fuck

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

It's ok to feel a little sympathy, but we can't just keep having a circle jerk about how horrible women like this are. Honestly TRP and the information on here isn't much of a secret anymore. More men and women know about it than you think. And given that, and this will sound harsh, but I ascribe some blame to the men for putting themselves in these situations. Forever sympathizing with men who make these kind of mistakes, which I see a great deal of in the comment section, is only gonna keep yourself in the anger phase longer. Stories like these should still be posted as a warning about staying blue pulled, but be cautious in not getting too caught up in them

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

TRP and the information on here isn't much of a secret anymore.

Only for Redditors and You Tube Watchers. Tell me how you can "learn the secret" by reading anything in the popular culture or watching ANYTHING on TV or movies. Every single thing they show is Blue Pill and lauds the horrible sacrifices of women while downplaying and denying the sacrifices of men- including this story. Almost every single person reading this story will see a hard working man and a tragic "love" story rather than the abuse we Terps see. Society is literally incapable of seeing female bad behavior and actively ignores it, covers it up, and denies even when it is obvious.

[–]victordmor 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Unbelievable. And slowly my hopes on the women, commited LTR and marriage are ending.

[–]anon35202 11 points12 points  (2 children)

They tried to teach you this in the Bible, but you laughed at them.

Corinthians. Men 3500 years ago had all this figured out and put down to quill and paper in a timeless fashion. Yet still here we are mocking Christianity as ancient and having no redeeming quality. Women put in charge of the tribe accidentally destroy civilization. Men knew this and thought it was so important to teach every warm blooded man by putting it in a book that people were commanded to read, or would go to hell for dismissing.

And here we are. I'm starting to see the internet come back around to the light of Jesus. Call it anything you want except bullshit, because your life depends on it. This is how Christianity stands through the ages, people periodically figure out that the timeless wisdom there was so true and so timeless that its opponents work themselves to death, causing a resurgence.

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[–]UnKnownSurviving 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's because society and the public make you think that way. You shouldn't let them rule you. In fact, fuck 'em. Christianity does have brute strength nearly close as Islam, (equal, actually) but not as murderer. We can kill if any one dare piss or doesn't respect the boundaries. We give warnings. Only once. I'm not a Christian, but I do believe in GOD and Jesus (Greek name for him; his actual name is in Hebrew), and quite frankly, I have no restraints, when it comes to personal boundaries.

However, Islam is a fucking murderer. There's a slave-mentality in Islam.

That said, give no fucks to no one.

[–]DarthCallidous 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wasn't pissed up until the end with the brother.

Wow.....just wow.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

wtf his kids were even ADOPTED they weren't even his

[–]blisstime 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's like that Kafka story, The Metamorphosis.

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[–]menial_optimist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Everyone should walk up to their dad if he is still alive and shake his hand with true appreciation for his sacrifice, it'll probably be the first time in his life anyone's ever appreciated him for that on a genuine level.

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

What the shit? She didn't care about the guy, she started fucking his brother 2 months after his death. What in the actual fuck?

[–]vwzwv 1 point2 points  (1 child)

He was probably fine dying that way. Hear me out. Because the way boys are raised it's typical for men to become addicted to the stimulation that comes from seeing himself as a martyr. "I'll work my ass off and take my family to Disneyland. That's what kind of a man I am" <gets dose of stimulation>. If he can he'll marry a pretty woman and willfully be completely used by her because people will not deny, "I am successful because I have a beautiful wife." He was raised wrong, bought in to image that men who sacrifice are great, great, the greatest men. He might just be glad he died like that because people could say, "He was such a good man he worked himself to death." He doesn't need to be alive to feel the glory because he's a martyr.

The wife on the other hand.. this type of woman is a perfect fit for this man. Just look at her picture. If you've studied body language at all you know the look on her face is the expression of contempt. It's more nuanced than just contempt though. It's closer to, "the expression one gets on their face from the pleasure they get from manipulating and using an individual in totality" Many women's faces look just like that. This is why I've always been leary of the girl character Elsa (I believe is her name) from the movie Frozen. I've never seen the movie, but she looks like the typical manipulator woman that has gone under the radar all her life. I agree with OP 100% when he said the wife's husband'd death was really only about her. I see this behavior in mothers who schedule soccer, ballet, etc for their kids but clearly don't give a f'k about them. For the mother it's all about the self-identity she forces on others "What a good mother she is for taking her daughter to ballet classes" All she cares about is living her own narrative. If the kid can't handle the mold their being put in and acts out the mother will talk to a consoler (whose life mostly consists of going home and watching 4 hours of Women TV shows) and promptly put the child on hard core anti-depressents so the mother doesn't have to deal with any of it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Elsa (I believe is her name) from the movie Frozen.

The signature song "let it go" is NOT the message to women we think it is- it is not "let it go" and quit your bitching. It is "let it go" and watch my allmighty girl power. All those little girls singing "let it go" are singing "let it go" which is about letting go of all your power and letting it out so you can fuck up (freeze) the entire world. It is a perfect metaphor for marriage today. Give the woman all the power. Tell her to "let go" and release all her power. Shortly afterwords, the entire world is a frozen, uninhabitable wasteland.

[–]pn_me_your_dick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

he did it for his kids fuck his wife

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll be damned if a woman will tell me where to sleep. I'm the one that will tell her to sleep elsewhere. I paid a pretty penny for my bed and I intend to use it.

[–]reddttt 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I'm young and keep seeing this type of shit among the men around my age. They have to work shitty jobs, study something at an university at night and have a newborn. I mean.. There's a point it isn't even trp, it's common sense! Why make it so hard on your life? I really can't understand.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Our society is set up the same way as societies in the past have been set up. We encourage male sacrifice and female profligacy. Hundreds of thousands of men charged machine gun nests and fell in wave after wave in 1915. It is the same today except the women are "manning" the machine gun nests.

The rallying cry of the bloop: "Come on you worthless maggots. Do you want to live forever? Over the top Get married."

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Exactly. I don't understand the people who have kids when they can't even support themselves. It makes no freaking sense.

[–]reddttt 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You wouldn't believe the amount of dudes who do this where I live. It's like they love being unhealthy drinking stressed kids trying to be adults the most hard way. They are going to be broken at their mid 30's.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep and they will be the ones on welfare crying about how the rich are evil. Honestly, for quite a while, I realized that I don't want kids. Not just because I genuinely don't have a desire for them, but because it's so expensive to raise them. If I did want them, I would only do it when I felt financially secure enough.

People are so desperate for approval by society that they will go in debt and all that, just to be seen as an "adult"

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Any news on what he died of?

[–]Klldarkness[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)


However, the medical examiner marked it as inconclusive, as to how he choked.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

She definitely killed the man and was having an affair. No sane person hops in bed with another person, 2 months after someone they were married to, dies.

[–]1TimmyTurnersNuts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly I do not see the point of marriage. It's a business scheme that isn't worth diving into. You HAVE to be selfish to an extent. I see guys all the time spending hard earn money on people who don't even appreciate the time and money being spent. Do it for you.

[–]juliusstreicher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are a couple of things which stand out, to me.

  1. Her face is awfully fucked up for 35 years old; too much plastic surgery??

  2. Her husband died of 'choking', or strangling, wtf. Hmmm...

  3. Her brother in law is now fucking her. Hmmm...I'm sorry, but, I have read too many Alfred Hitchcock short story collections to let this pass. Let's see, unhappy wife, death by choking, brother takes over pussy duty, all within 2 months??? hmmm...Nope! Nothing wrong with this picture!

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One look at the fox's plastered face is enough to know who wears the pants in that house.

[–]RPDrogan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm currently studying for an evolutionary psych class and felt this might be relevant.

Our desire to mate/have sex is biological and due to our desire to procreate and pass on our genes.

There are 2 types of mating strategies. Long term mating strategies and short term mating strategies.

Short term mating strategies are biologically more appealing to men. Long term mating strategies are biologically more appealing to women. This can be explained by the fact that Eggs are few, large, and costly, while Sperm are tiny, numerous, and cheap.

So in the sort of relationship in the article, the woman has achieved her goal of finding a man who is a long term provider. However this is not enough for her because she also wants attention which he is unable to give her due to being at work providing for their family. He ended up giving her everything including his life. She ended up fucking his brother shortly after his death.

There's a reason you have trouble staying monogamous. Alphas are meant to pass on their genes to as many mates as possible. Not just 1. Marriage does not benefit men. Long term monogamy does not benefit men.

[–]IamDeathRS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How can he choke to death in his sleep after a huge domestic altercation, and charges are not filed?

[–]justgotalpha 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Guys, do NOT GET MARRY!! under any circumstance!!!

[–]blu02 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like this is one of those girls you look at and instantly see a big red flag.

[–]trpanak1n 0 points1 point  (1 child)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of us can know the actual substance of the argument but if she'd honestly been telling him to cut back on work for his health, and that the "extravagences" weren't necessery etc, then I find it hard not to see where she is coming from - but she could just be saying that in hindsight to make herself look better.

Working just to support someone else seems like a living hell to me, I mean, I hate the idea of having kids so I'm perhaps a bit of an outlier but damn - what's the point?

[–]seujeb1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is like a real life version of "The Metamorphosis" by Kafka. Highly recommend it if you haven't read it yet.

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