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CultureSocialist Feminist author cedes that one of the core analyses of Redpillers is correct & needs addressing (self.TheRedPill)

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Female contributor to Jacobin Angela Nagle: "Some of the ideas that the alt-right discuss which are just off the table everywhere else[…]they can't be discussed anywhere in polite society[…]. And this is a factor which has fueled the alt-right possibly more than anything else is [an emerging] sexual hierarchy among men, and this does bear out in the figures where smaller numbers of men are having more sexual partners and there's this larger number at the bottom that are having none or very few. Redpill […] and various forums has been about how to deal with being a beta male, how to deal with being at the bottom of the pile. Once again the thing that they are starting off with is correct. They are observing a pattern and they are being told you are not supposed to observe it. So what's our answer to that, what's our alternative to that? That's what we have to be discussing. How do we analyze the same phenomenon? But don't just say the phenomenon isn't there or you can't discuss it."

source and full talk about this particular subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r8uzznb7U0


[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 603 points604 points  (123 children)

We are witnessing the shift from the Red Pill is a bunch of rapists to The Red Pill has some good points but they are still assholes. Looks like a tactical retreat to me.

[–]frankreyes 104 points105 points  (24 children)

"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 94 points95 points  (23 children)

I'm waiting for the fight you part. I've spent a lot of time shaming Red Pill into putting on muscle and learning to box for years now.

[–]SaiHottari 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm still waiting for the fight you part.

It's punch a Nazi day! Oh, hey! It's a Nazi!

[–]ObviouslyRP 12 points13 points  (21 children)

Been putting on muscle. Still need to learn to fight. Have been taught to shoot however since I was a kid, at 8 I was shooting pie plates at a hundred yards from a standing position. That skill has only improved. However I use that for squirrel and deer etc.

I need to learn hand to hand combat for when I'm walking home and there are drunk homeless people with knives and I would prefer to disarm and incapacitate rather than self defense shoot and have to use my lawyer and deal with cops.

[–]ThePurpleGodzilla 1 points1 points [recovered]

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu mate. Not exactly hand to hand combat but one of the best overall self-defence martial arts out there. Krav Maga is also pretty good when it comes to weapons from what I've heard. Never tried that though.

[–]ObviouslyRP 2 points3 points  (12 children)

when it comes to weapons

As in disarming? I don't intend to carry martial arts weapons

[–]ThePurpleGodzilla 1 points1 points [recovered]

Yeah disarming knives, guns, etc

[–]TRPLeft 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You do not disarm someone with a weapon.

[–]InstigatingDrunk 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Apparently you can with Krav Maga. Just tell them you're certified with a stern look

[–]ObviouslyRP 0 points1 point  (8 children)

That shit is prolific here I'll look into it and let the men know how it goes. There was just an incident recently where on a busy night someone pulled a gun in a popular bar. Nothing demonstrates value better than disarming and incapacitating a bad guy and waiting for the cops with your boot on his neck.

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 13 points14 points  (5 children)

That's how it always works in the blue pill movies. So the movie will unfortnately constantly run in your head, that this is what you need to do too.

Train hard, but when someone's armed it's no longer about looking good for the movie in your head. It's now about you and yours all with terrifying wounds, permanent scars if you survive and quite possibly life-long incapcitation/aches n' pains. Give the guy your wallet, it's fine. Training? What training, I'm just a small man, compliant little beta. Don't want no trouble, take it all. Small price to pay.

Might be forced to try something if they want your wife, not just your wallet. In this case you're not disarming, you're trying to kill. He accidentally slipped, fell, and shot himself.

If your skills pull through and you manage to disarm, that was pure good luck/ your professional team of guardian angels upstairs at work.

A knife is a horrible, loathsome weapon. The best training likely won't mean shit, even if it's just a drunk thug. You'll be cut up even if you survive. A gunshot will just kill you, but if have had lunch, don't google for "knife wound" ER images.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Completely on point. Several years ago I took a self defense class with a fantastic instructor. He flat out said that what he was teaching was meant to keep you alive, not safe. He always reminded us at the start of each lesson that when confronting a person with a knife you were going to get stabbed. A person with a gun--you were going to get shot. The only thing he was teaching was how not to get killed. His first step was always, ALWAYS, look for the way out.

[–]biggerbetterjobs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The best training likely won't mean shit, even if it's just a drunk thug. You'll be cut up even if you survive.

100% folks. Always best to keep you and your loved ones safe from any violent situation by any means necessary. An old buddy who hungout with my high school group of friends was recently stabbed to death outside a bar in our town for trying to break up a fight between his friend and some other guy (who pulled the knife).

Luckily police apprehended the murderer and there was enough evidence to put him behind bars for a long time.. But moral of the story: Just say not to fighting/general violence unless it's a kill or be killed situation (even then just try to run away like a lil beta bitch) or you're in the ring and there's rules.

[–]ObviouslyRP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah I know in that situation I would instinctually follow the instruction of the attacker. Wallet? no problem. I doubt I'd ever have the confidence where if out in that situation I would feel anything other than appeasing the attacker would be the right course of action.

[–]ar10308 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You're not gonna do that with Krav unless you get super lucky. You're gonna get shot.

[–]ObviouslyRP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I know that it's never a good idea to to attempt disarming a gun man. Rather just have a gun yourself and hit their center of mass.

[–]kagetsuki23 6 points7 points  (1 child)

defensive art: taichi

submission art: brazilian jiu jitsu

striking art: box tai.

evasive art (if you need to run away if a mobs is after you): parkour

would be enough to deal with any opponents that do not have fire weapons

[–]ObviouslyRP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the itemized list!

[–]sorceryofthetesticle 147 points148 points  (29 children)

It's basically the same change in attitude as before/after a girl gets boned out by her first Chad.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 134 points135 points  (26 children)

This is conjecture but if you read her mannerisms and expressions it's obvious she exposed herself to the Red Pill enough for us to enter her soul. We are simply more exciting than her Feminist Cuck friends.

She can no longer outright attack us because she loves reading us. It is exactly like the post Chad scenario you describe.

[–]ObviouslyRP 53 points54 points  (11 children)

Exactly like the red pill movie, the whole time the ex-feminist is saying she's on the defensive, but everything the men are saying is true, she visits top feminists and they lie to her through their teeth and everybody knows.

Lies are easily destroyed by the truth, once the truth has been accepted as such.

[–]grandaddychimp 38 points39 points  (5 children)

That's when the tactic shifts to ignoring the truth and instead simply repeating falsehoods louder than the person telling the truth, so people forget about the truth and instead go with their feelz.

That's why Ron Paul lost the primaries in 2008 and 2012. He told the truth 100% of the time but the Republicans preferred the feelz that John McCain and Mitt Romney gave them instead.

[–]thetotalpackage7 29 points30 points  (4 children)

Ron Paul may have facts on his side but he is majorly lacking in delivery style and mannerisms. He's probably too old now but he could have improved his chances if he had some lifting under his belt and came across as a little less Gomer Pyle.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Humma Kavula: [confronting Zaphod Beeblebrox for the first time after losing the Galactic Presidential Election to him] The election is ancient history, Zaphod. If memory serves, you won, proving that good looks and charm win over brilliance and the ability to govern.

[–]waldo888 8 points9 points  (0 children)

hey if there is something more important than my ego on this ship I want it caught and killed right now..come on.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRuleZeroDAD 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Or...Something outside of the Hitchhiker's Guide and a little closer to home - Check out the public opinion polls regarding the Nixon/Kennedy 1960 Presidential Debates. Policy won on the radio, and looks won on TV.

[–]grandaddychimp 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Best criticism of Ron Paul I've ever read

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

She has a video where she describes the power of her lady brain putting words in the mouths of what the men said. When she transcribed the discussions she realized what was being said.

Here is a key point : Men complain that women are putting words in their mouth, women complain that men used their words against them.

[–]ObviouslyRP 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Being that they literally can't comprehend language in real time?

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yes. The amount of internal noise women have must be outstanding.

What did they say? What did they really mean? What aren't they saying? God, I could use a latte, they're so fattening though. It's ok I deserve it. What is the worst interpretation of what they really meant. I'll accuse them of that!

[–]llmercll 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But sometimes it takes decades

[–]NibblyPig 23 points24 points  (8 children)

Once you learn trp you're changed forever. There is no going back. I laugh at that subreddit that tries.

[–]llmercll 8 points9 points  (1 child)

The red pill was everything that I ever told myself instinctively but ignored because of how my naive self thought society was set up.

[–]kagetsuki23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The truth is scary but liberating, lies are sweet but deadly.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Do you mean TBP? Or is there actually a sub for Cypher? "They're gonna plug me back in!"

[–]FatStig 1 points1 points [recovered]

There is an ex trp sub. Don't recall the name.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ex Red- an entire colony of Cyphers.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 2 points3 points  (3 children)

You think she is reading us right now, mouse in one hand Hitachi in the other?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Jokes aside I honestly think there is a sexual component to Bloops fascination with us. Such tireless obsession has to be Id motivated because only the Id can provide enough psychological energy for the endevor.

Take Slut Walks for example yea sure they say it's about activism or whatever. But in reality it's obvious that those freaks get sexual arousal from being called a whore. Well the Red Pill calls these degenerates whores all the time, hence their obsession with us.

[–]stonepimpletilists 1 points1 points [recovered]

Makes no sense otherwise. Honestly, they read about as much sidebar as the average red piller, and care 2x as much.

It's the only explanation. I'm sure you've seen when a girl actually tries to open a guy, they are so bad at game that they look like girls on the spectrum

[–]Roaring40sUK 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Maybe TRP will be the new 50 Shades for these cock hungry women...?

[–]G_Petronius 1 points1 points [recovered]

Looks like a tactical retreat to me.

From looking at the video it just looks like a post-wall woman. Flabby and overall no longer sufficiently attractive, she can no longer compete for Chad's attention and thus can no longer live in the blessed reality where he's the only man and betas are invisible. Having had to lower her standards, she starts finding out just how wide the selection of betas is out there, and having spent all her life working as a professional hamster, she hamsters about this too. She doesn't see TRP having a point because logically we do (if she were following logic there's much more she'd have to admit), she sees us having a point because now she has to personally deal with the fact that betas exist.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ideologically they also only have 1 point of interest, oppression. So it is no surprise that they are interested in what they describe as "beta males who are not getting any", those are prime targets for their sicko-shit. Look at all the beta orbiters who are left-wing and join the rallies at campuses all ready to hate on their own (non existant) masculinity.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If reason and facts worked on SJWs, there wouldn't be any.

Also, they would have lower cholesterol.

[–]stonepimpletilists 1 points1 points [recovered]

reminds me of the archwingers heirarchy of RP.

  1. they are rapists
  2. they are right, but still assholes
  3. it only works on damaged women

etc. Can't remember the full list, but by the end, it will be 'duh, this was common sense'

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Slowly but surely, Red Pill knowledge has shifted from "shitlord nonsense" to "common knowledge". The more hearts and minds won by the truth, the more intellectual territory SJWs must cede to remain in the argument.

Eventually, ALL Red Pill truth will be common sense, and there will be nothing further to argue.

Then we will enslave women, consume the flesh of the unworthy, and return to glory as a nomadic space-faring patriarchy. Hail Satan.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

It's weirdly anti-woman. I'd like to see them call the women I date "damaged" to their faces. Go on, explain to her why she's clearly emotionally unstable and has severe psychological issues.

[–]biggerbetterjobs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh man, I would get a kick out of this.. Some brainwashed SJW chick calling her friend mentally damaged for banging a chad. OMG STOP KINK SHAMING ME!!!

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorFieldLine 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Where is this? Can you try to find it? I thought I read all of his stuff but this doesn't sound familiar.

[–]stonepimpletilists 1 points1 points [recovered]

archwinger posted in in purplepill debate, as a one off comment. bout a month or two ago.

Best I can give ya, I'm not about to scour that place right now

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorFieldLine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I try to check into his profile once or twice a week, surprised I missed it.

Thanks anyway

[–]russe1lwestbrook 18 points19 points  (5 children)

" Redpill […] and various forums has been about how to deal with being a beta male, how to deal with being at the bottom of the pile."

Anyone notice how they phrased that? "how to deal with being a beta male" instead of representing us correctly or in a better light, such as empowering men against centuries of emasculation. Instead they are saying we are a bunch of beta males at the BOTTOM of the pile figuring out how to deal, or cope with being trash. LMFAO.

Side note: she is ugly as shit, real life troll looking woman if i ever saw one.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 20 points21 points  (4 children)

Women can only understand the male experience to a limited capacity. An ugly girl has to deal with being an ugly girl. However a beta male can rework his subconscious through lifting boxing or any number of high stress masculine activities and become something more. The mistake in her analysis is a result of Solipsism..

Keep in mind she wrote a fucking book on the Red Pill/ Alt Right so her making a mistake in her analysis speaks negatively on her professional competence.

Which is why the world would be better off if she spent her time making tastey sandwiches instead of poorly researched books.

[–]russe1lwestbrook 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I think it's also a lowkey wayof painting TRP as "a bunch of ugly beta virgins who don't get laid"

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 11 points12 points  (2 children)

My Twitter followers and the people iv spoken to on Skype from this community are for the most part vibrant intelligent men

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is important to remind the casual reader that the vast majority of the top 25% of men are still betas.

..

Betas still get to mate. Just not like the alphas do and not on their own terms.

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 40 points41 points  (1 child)

I want them to go back to thinking I'm a rapist. Most girls have rape fantasies.

[–]Hjalmbere 7 points8 points  (0 children)

lmao

[–]jpfrana 7 points8 points  (0 children)

or like they've entered the 3rd stage of grieving

[–]Macheako 8 points9 points  (2 children)

People who do not care about you try to ignore you for as long as they can....until one day, they can't.

It's the image of a small animal that will run and run from a predator, until it gets cornered, and running is no longer an option. Still doesn't mean she cares at all about TRP, or men....could just mean she's running out of places to hide.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I would argue she cares a lot about TRP because we are the big other that justifies her virtue signaling and moral crusade. We are her personal Hitler.

[–]Macheako 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, nah, I hear ya man. I just....making the distinction is tough, ya know. Cause I mean, she MIGHT only "care" about us because we're stopping HER movement from moving forward, her "care" for us is essentially the same kind of "care" she has for fallen tree in the middle of the road.....we're just blocking her from getting to where she wants.

Yea, TRP justifies her crusade, but, she may damn well be 100% sold on HER crusade, and she only will "care" so long as you continue to "block her path". Sure, if you completely remove her "path" (defeat feminism), she'll have no where to turn so she'll join, though reluctantly.

I'm just not sure if she "cares about TRP because we offer her opposition" (this is something a dude might say, but I've never witnessed a woman LOVE competition like a man), or if she just "cares about getting rid of TRP so she continue with her plan to subjugate all men and their weenies".

But in the end, I guess neither of us should really "care" about her stupid opinion lol

Cheers, bud.

[–]Hjalmbere 8 points9 points  (5 children)

She calls herself a socialist, well the same sexual hierarchy existed in socialist countries. They also had celebrities and powerful people. Castro, Tito and Gagarin, each of them got more ass than a toilet seat.

[–]timeout400 1 points1 points [recovered]

I assume she's more of a social Democratic leftist. (see Nordic countries where the president can get in a cab and not get noticed, not to mention never be showered with pussy). A lot of socialisits push social democracy because they don't see a society where the workers control the means of production as able to compete with capitalism or defend itself from the larger foreign invaders.

[–]Hjalmbere 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Higher SMV will automatically be attached to male celebrities and powerful men. Regardless of whether it's in the USA, Sweden, Malawi or North Korea.

[–]timeout400 1 points1 points [recovered]

Until the last few years, there really wasn't a celebrity culture in Nordic countries. Celebrities/athletes would literally get annoyed because no one cared that they were in proximity to them, even if they recognized them.

Not that there isn't a sexual hierarchy in Nordic countries, it's just relatively flat compared to the united states, where you read about some basketball stars who get aids because they have had about 23,000 sexual partners. The desire for a daddy figure as a mate is partially offloaded to the state in the form of extremely generous safety nets, powerful unions, and social programs, making beta males more attractive. Egalitarian brainwashing and absence of macho culture makes men approach women WAY less. Girls don't have over-inflated egos because they don't have dozens of men propositioning them every year, so their standards are lessened, they aren't walking "queens" etc..

[–]Hjalmbere 7 points8 points  (1 child)

What you're saying is mostly erroneous. I'm a fifty year old Scandinavian and I can assure you celebrity culture most assuredly existed already when I was a kid. My parents can attest that it existed before that. The Rolling Stones toured Scandinavia in the 60s and got inundated with pussy. As far as men not approaching women, well Scandinavians are reserved by nature and didn't approach women before feminism set in either.

Gender neutrality is not embedded in the speech unless you take into account the horrible neologism "hen" which was invented by Swedish feminists a couple of years ago and is used only by the extreme fringe and ridiculed by everyone else.

What you say about women not having over inflated egos isn't true either. Internet dating has had the same effect here as everywhere else.

I would say the big differences with the USA is more women in the workforce due to taxation, it's virtually impossible for a middle class family to live on one salary and less divorce rape due to no alimony.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (4 children)

To be fair, as you can see with responses to any "stop whining and lift you fucking faggots" post, the rest of Reddit isn't wrong; this sub is full of misogynistic neckbeards. I'd even guess that they outnumber those here who would be considered alphas.

They usually get smacked down by a mod or endorsed contributor, but not before getting hundreds of upvotes by telling the betas what they want to hear (nah bro you just need game and it doesn't matter that your 400 pound body is 80% cheetos).

[–]biggerbetterjobs 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The majority of people just want quick and easy solutions to things. It's a result of conspicuous consumption and "there's a pill for that" culture.

The PUA community = diet pills; whereas TRP = stop eating a family size bag of lays and drinking a 2 liter of coke a day you fat fuck.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I'm a misogynistic neckbeard yes. I'm also jacked and could kick your ass. Thanks RP

[–]Bear-With-Bit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be alpha is to be the exception.

[–]SW9876 1 points1 points [recovered]

Do you think it's possible for TRP and women's right to both exist as main stream ideas. Don't get me wrong, I don't think TRP is misogynic at it's core, but I don't think any non-patriarchal society could ever accept us fully. We will always be fringe.

[–]Modredpillschool 13 points14 points  (1 child)

The feminine imperative seeks to ensure their sexual strategy remains the primary, socially accepted one. I think that in any point in history, even with greater male power in the past, the female sexual strategy has always at least partly controlled the public narrative.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRuleZeroDAD 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's always been a "soft power" vs. "hard power" debate.

Any man with the right motivation could pull a woman's head right off her shoulders. The "hard power" reality of men having this ability ready to spring at any moment causes a reaction from society (Laws, shaming of the Alpha, focus on the old and children, the "toxic masculinity narrative," etc...).

Women mitigate the physical strength disadvantage with "soft power" mastery regarding social manipulation, creation of false hierarchies, victimization narrative, and constant social power grabs via institutions.

We naturally covet (because we want to fuck) the pretty ones, and society prevents us from shunning or starving the rest.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Of course. If you boil down the basics of TRP (AWALT, Briffault's Law, etc.) you realize it's about recognizing that women aren't magical perfect beings, they are human too and act in their own selfish interest just like men. The ways that this is seen are different but it's still simply acting in your own self-interest, with a good bit of basic biology thrown in.

Where men want to mate with as many young, fertile women as possible, women want to acquire strong genes and a strong provider and aren't concerned if it's not the same guy. Where men tend to sleep around, women tend to branch swing. It's two sides of the same coin but our society has decided one is acceptable and one is not.

[–]DysfunctionalBrother 3 points4 points  (0 children)

i think that's what some feminists are trying to do who have "swallowed the red pill" after watching the red pill movie. We don't want feminists in the red pill though, it would eventually lead to sabotage.

[–]llmercll 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've always felt this way. Serious amounts of truth but so controversial that people inherently shy away from it for social reasons.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What feminism has done to men is one thing, but i'd argue women were the first casualties. Every post wall alpha widow is a depressed, alcoholic mess who will die alone. At least we can adapt and still achieve our full potential.

[–]Merwebb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They realize they are being owned and that there is nothing they can do about it

[–]-clickhere- 1 points1 points [recovered]

Comment of the day, by far.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 32 points33 points  (14 children)

The funny thing is that she thinks that the Red Pill is only about manipulating women into sex. Well if I can manipulate my way into a woman's pussy I can manipulate my way into a woman's wallet and soul. I can also manipulate Betas because women and betas are more or less the same.

[–]Modredpillschool 17 points18 points  (4 children)

The funny thing is that she thinks that the Red Pill is only about manipulating women into sex.

Feminism has always been about how they think women are children incapable of making their own decisions.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Betty Friedan and Simone de Beauvoir are so incredibly insulting to women. Friedan acknowledges that the happiest women are either stay at home moms, or just work/volunteer when their kids are in school. But she mocks them as simple; she acknowledges that working women aren't happy but says women should work regardless. Beauvoir doesn't believe women should have the option to be mothers at home and society should be re-worked so they can't

[–]segagaga 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Beauvoir is genuinely insane.

[–]_the_shape_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wasn't it about how women have agency except when something went wrong, then they have no agency and clearly were manipulated

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When I used to hang around PPD, that was a pretty consistent theme from the bloopers--women are too stupid to make their own mating choices, so don't say anything that might accidentally cause them to fall on your dick.

[–]friendlysociopathic 1 points1 points [recovered]

Then why on earth do you spend your time online selling T-shirts to losers?

[–]GayLubeOil 1 points1 points [recovered]

I have a very successful online training business. I sold T shirts to raise money for the Red Pill app and provide souviners for the community.

[–]lukmeg 112 points113 points  (9 children)

They really see themselves as polite society and not as fake society. The lack of self awareness is amazing.

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 23 points24 points  (0 children)

They're angry because they internally accept many of the points put forth on forums such as this.

They're just ~3 years late in accepting those points on their own merits.

[–]beachbbqlover 1 points1 points [recovered]

To be polite is to gloss over the gory details, put on the expected show, and tow the line, isn't it?

[–]segagaga 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Yes but not at the expense of either morality or honesty. It is polite not to point out the lack of others graces. It is not polite to ignore someone who is dying. Etc. This is at the core of it part of the problem with virtue signalling. It's concerned with the appearance of virtue, not the internalization and action of virtue.

[–]beachbbqlover 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It's polite to do whatever some fictionary snobby lady from England deems morally acceptable behavior - not whether that behavior is actually moral or honest. It often involves hiding flaws and distasteful things, and a great deal of propriety.

[–]segagaga 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The problem is snobby ladies from England are not fictional.

[–]beachbbqlover 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yes, but my 'polite' one is.

[–]cashmoney_x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's......a really interesting point.

[–]bastardstepchild 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Somebody's about to get uninvited and banned from all of the feminist forums.

[–]JackGetsIt 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But hopefully this will cause another Cassie Jaye or Laci Green to emerge no? It's only when they see for themselves how ideological there former cult is that they truly get redpilled.

[–]timeout400 1 points1 points [recovered]

It's worth mentioning that it seems Angela sees herself as outside contemporary US feminism and doesn't carry that label around.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 40 points41 points  (1 child)

Just another social hipster trying to stay at the edge of mainstream thought. Feminism is not cool anymore.

[–]Archange_ 9 points10 points  (2 children)

The video has fewer than 500 views. Some originate from here. This point of view is completely marginal and shall remain negligible in the foreseeable future.

[–]jpfrana 10 points11 points  (0 children)

ahh, the i'm above everyone and everything else and i can look out at them like the dispassionate god that i am bullshit

[–]ObviouslyRP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wonder if this is due to her being post-wall rather than having a pure zero stakes position like George Carlin @2:55

[–]NeoreactionSafe 15 points16 points  (23 children)

 

The problem with the Truth is that over time it gradually breaks down the myths and those who hold the myths have to adapt.

Feminism is trying to keep their myths alive.

We are seeing a sort of defensive reaction where a gaping hole has opened up in Feminist idealism and they are scrambling to imagine a new line of total bullshit to fill the gap.

 

  • What new bullshit myths might be invented?

 

It's hard to guess... I'm sure something fake will emerge soon enough.

The Feminists aren't going to just let their myths fall apart.

It's unlikely they will speak the Truth any time soon though.

 

[–]DysfunctionalBrother 8 points9 points  (10 children)

My belief is they are going to slowly infiltrate the red pill and other movements like it so they can inject marxist ideas into it over time. They know that feminism is failing so they have to change their tactics.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 9 points10 points  (8 children)

 

If you want to infiltrate any movement the first thing you do is say all the right things and make yourself popular.

From my perspective I value most the person with an open mind who comes here to exchange ideas and even question what we say.

The Red Pill will die the day everyone shares a group consensus.

Our "going our own way" and "thinking for ourselves" make group consensus impossible.

This is why:

 

  • It is more important to destroy Blue Pill myths than to hold a Red Pill group consensus.

 

Our strength comes from the destruction of myth.

When myths arrive here we kill them.

"Kill the Beta".

 

[–]grandaddychimp 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Actually the best way to infiltrate a movement is to become a top financer of it and then make sure all of the top spokesmen are your puppets. That wouldn't really work with TRP because the best they could do is infiltrate the mod team.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 4 points5 points  (6 children)

 

To some degree (in my opinion) there has already been some infiltration in the sense that as we became the "cool kids" we are getting people who learn our terms and gain popularity but lack the intuitive "spark" which is at the root of the Red Pill.

As the Red Pill terms become formalized they get slowly "Dumbed Down" and made more rigid and literal.

The definition of the beta male is his rigid, literal and honest nature.

Using occult language the beta is "Right Hand Path".

What makes a guy masculine is Game which the fluid nature which is the female "Left Hand Path".

So the Red Pill is about stealing the fluid nature from women and then turning it around and using it as a weapon against them.

Anyone who wanted to destroy the Red Pill would make it rigid... even honorable.

We would start to resemble soldiers mentally. (no free thinking)

 

[–]grandaddychimp 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I personally don't subscribe to the left/right path dichotomy. I think everything is left path when you examine it more closely

[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (2 children)

 

Everything has polarity.

It's part of Natural Law.

 

  • Male - Right Hand Path - Rigid.

  • Female - Left Hand Path - Fluid.

 

A male psychopath is essentially a woman in a man's body.

Masculinity combines the best of both worlds.

AWALT means "All women are psychopaths".

 

[–]FatStig 1 points1 points [recovered]

The yinyang symbol is better because each side has a bit of the other.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

 

Yes, it does offer additional ideas as a metaphor.

Metaphors are abstractions and as long as you don't try to make anything too literal they can be used effectively to get an idea across.

There's always the "stiff" who wants it his way.

 

[–]wanderingfun 0 points1 point  (1 child)

...people men* who learn our terms and gain popularity but lack the intuitive "spark" which is at the root of the Red Pill...

This only happens if readers fail to discriminate between words on the screen from actual accomplishment. On the Internet, no one knows if you really are lifting at 90%+ of your genetic potential, spinning plates, etc. Trust no words on the screen and instead trust only after-the-fact delivered results for your own individual effort.

There is no "spark". That's theory-crafting bullshit talking in place of doing, then failing, and persevering with even harder and more work.

If each of us takes from RP what works for our own individual circumstances and leaves the rest, then there isn't any foothold for an infiltration to work with.

[–]grandaddychimp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It won't work. TRP is too fundamentally anti left

[–]HoundDogs 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I feel like feminism is the root of much of the division and chaos we are seeing today. Eventually, I feel like feminists will not need to invent new bullshit myths. The need to invent new myths becomes irrelevant when you start telling naive people that logic is sexist and insinuating that the only truth in the world is feminist dogma.

Similar to the way the Church of Scientology works. L. Ron Hubbard has been dead for decades but his word is gospel and anyone who questions it is pre-emptively attacked. It doesn't need to be edited, changed, or renewed...his word is absolute. The trouble is that feminists and their kin ideologies have tremendously more power than the Church of Scientology (which is fairly isolated).

This kind of power is extraordinarily dangerous. When you control institutions of higher learning and many local, state, and federal government positions, eventually you can begin to execute the totalitarianism thoughts that feminism/marxism inevitably leads to.

What we're witnessing is becoming very unsettling to me. I'm genuinely affraid that this monster cannot be put back in the cage.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 4 points5 points  (3 children)

 

The puppets are controlled by the puppet masters.

The Feminists are actually not at the top.

The top is the Globalist Tyranny which is filled with "the people we are not allowed to criticize".

Well... I guess we actually are able to criticize the Globalist Tyranny for the moment. We will see if censorship arrives which will become more effective in preventing us from exercising free speech in the future.

So far they try to shut us up but have not been entirely successful.

 

[–]biggerbetterjobs 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The globalist tyranny is so powerful, behind the curtain etc.. They don't even need censorship. No one knows who they are, and if you bring up this concept, most people will laugh at you for being a "conspiracy theorist". In fact, lack of censorship is even better because they can go full force with disinformation memetics to brainwash the masses to make them stupider and weaker (e.g.. feminism, "affordable" health care, pornography, the drug war, etc..)

With censorship, there's parameters on what you can say and do in the public sphere. Without, portals and carriers of information become the wild west. People place very little weight on how powerful memetics via the web can be in influencing the masses. It's like wartime propaganda on steroids and crack.

"Idolatry literally means the worship of an "idol", also known as a cult image, in the form of a physical image, such as a statue or icon."

This brings to mind modern day notions of "idolatry" via memetics, a few of the most destructive being: pornography, reckless journalism/"fake news" media (which exists on all sides), and glorification/romanticization of violence (not just "fighting", but things like rape/sexual violence, torture, cold blooded killing, selling drugs, doing drugs, and various criminal lifestyles) via the entertainment industry.

But the globalist tyranny can get away with this because it's all orchestrated via a smoke and mirrors show. Get the masses barking and shooting each other and while they're busy with that, just go walk into the bank and walk out with all the money.

Getting rid of censorship is probably better for them than it is for those who simply want free speech and rights of self-expression.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

 

They can do the "false flag" of "Hate Speech".

Basically pretend when someone tells the Truth that they are racist, fascist, toxically masculine, the same as Hitler, etc and then create censorship designed to "protect" the innocent Feminist.

That's the biggest worry.

 

  • Truth is Hate

 

...and they plan to stop it.

 

[–]Archange_ 5 points6 points  (4 children)

In France a new feminist concept has recently emerged. The mental burden. Even if domestic chores and child care are more evenly split between men and women, the planning is still woman's responsibility. For example the woman must write the grocery list when the man goes shopping; the woman must tell the man when to vacuum the house; the woman must instruct the man how to bathe the baby... Constantly thinking and organising house life represents a mental burden on the woman; the man is free of such a thing.

The mental burden of housekeeping is exhausting, terribly exhausting. That is why the woman seldom has the energy for having sex with her man.

The feminine and leftist press have churned this horseshit for a few months. I believe Trump has prevented it from gaining international traction. But it still might.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

 

  • The Mental Burden

 

Wow... that's worth an in depth top level post.

That's so Feminist and stupid it deserves to be held up and laughed at.

 

[–]MuhDik89 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It already has, its called emotional labor elsewhere in the englsih speaking world.

[–]biggerbetterjobs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

TIL: Simple regular communication in a relationship is oppressive.

[–]RedPill115 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Feminism follows a fundamental forumula.

Relationships are oppression, work is freedom.

It's almost funny. Imagine if a woman's husband told her that she had to be dressed and presentable every day at 8am, she wasn't allowed to leave the house for the next 8 hours, and he would be watching her all day.

They'd throw a fit. But that's what a job is for her, and they magically have no problem with that.

[–]stoicsoul87 64 points65 points  (8 children)

I don't really want an awakening to or addressing of this issue by feminists. I need to see the society they created collapse by their own hands. All this buildup and no grand finale? That's no fun!

Dear feminists,

Please don't learn about redpill. Please don't wake up to truths in my lifetime. Please continue your slut parades and pumping out manginas and CC riders. I'll amuse myself seeing the shit filled ballon you keep blowing into explode in your face.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 40 points41 points  (2 children)

They can learn all they want but they'll never convince young pussy to give a fuck.

[–]beachbbqlover 1 points1 points [recovered]

When you become set on watching the world burn, no matter the cost.

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Chad Thunderfinger - he'd burn this country to the ground if he could be King of the ashes.

[–]biggerbetterjobs 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That reads like it could be a pre-story to some marvel super villain in a comic. Or idk if you're quoting it.

[–]tallwheel 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That's not all that will be exploding in the faces of the CC riders. :)

[–]1nzgs 21 points22 points  (4 children)

It's been discussed in academia before and her idea of "polite society" is her narrow marxist social bubble. She claims to speak for the mainstream but it's more an awakening that she is out of touch and on the fringes.

[–]Archange_ 32 points33 points  (2 children)

her idea of "polite society" is her narrow marxist social bubble

Not quite. I am French upper class and have lived in France, Boston, London and Germany. I raised several times the subject of feminine asymmetrical treatment of men in my social circles and on internet fora. The context was always the contrast between dating and courting within a relationship (actually orbiting) vs sexual exhuberance in club mediterranee. The discussion always turned personnal and I was systematically derided if not outright insulted. By men and women alike. It has been quite plain that the female dual mating strategy and its consequences are a forbidden topic for discussion in many social circles: liberal, conservative, Christian, socialist, marxist, etc. The ban is nearly universal.

In France marxist sociologists have noticed the sexual deprivation of most lower class men. I even read a paper summarizing findings that some poor young men convert to Islam because the Muslims give them a wife. Yet the marxists have ideological blinds that prevent them from understanding the phenomenon. They are feminists and ultimately ascribe it to evil capitalists.

In France again Catholic priests have noticed AF/BB too: they hear enough confessions and have pieced it together. Yet they do not understand it either. To young betas exasperated by fruitless orbiting they say something like : "This is the cross that you have to bear. Carry it with patience. There are many your Catholic women searching for a husband and you shall eventually meet one. This period is your trial." Even before coming accross the red pill, I understood that most of these women were anything but pure and that their search for a husband involved a lot of sex just not with good-hearted Catholic men. I was profoundly perplexed; and disgusted.

[–]grandaddychimp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There's no reason to be polite in a society that finds it morally acceptable to rob people at gunpoint and call it "taxation".

[–]Bing400 50 points51 points  (15 children)

Someone explain to me why trp identifies as alt-right. I get bothered as much as the next guy by a triggered feminist landwhale, though I believe we shouldn't talk about more than just how to fuck her hot friend and getting muscular.

[–]MiddleClasshole777 1 points1 points [recovered]

Everything they don't like is alt-right.

[–]JackGetsIt 59 points60 points  (6 children)

This. Repill isn't Alt Right. Alt Right is a political movement. Redpill is an educational subreddit that teaches people about basic human motivations and instincts covered up by our western culture. Redpillers identify as a multitude of different political factions.

[–]InstigatingDrunk 6 points7 points  (1 child)

100% this. I got triggered by the label but I shouldn't.

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I like the label to be honest. I'm a registered Republican but never really identified as one because I've always had libertarian leanings. Islamic terrorism reaching the West and the cultural degeneracy spreading through the United States really awakened something in me though. Trump winning made me feel like I'm a part of something huge. Or should I say YUUUUUUGE.

[–]anonlymouse 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Someone explain to me why trp identifies as alt-right

Everything is alt-right. GamerGate is alt-right. Jake Tapper is alt-right. If you're not left of Stalin you're alt-right.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a forum about sexual strategy it's called the red pill because it's about seeing the world as it is and not merely what your told.

The Alt-right at large uses the term red pill very frequently. So 4channers will talk about being red pilled about the Holocaust, race mixing, Catholics, whatever. Some of it are uncomfortable truths, some of it is edgy shitposting and some of it is genuine hate. J

[–]grandaddychimp 10 points11 points  (1 child)

We don't. That's how our opponents brand us because they assume that our prejudices about women automatically means we all must be racist Trump supporters.

[–]MRPFuckMe1 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Her analysis of the socio-sexual context for the manosphere is spot on. She's very reasonable about it, and it's nice to hear acknowledged the issues that brought so many of us here. She even seems to condemn modern liberal society's acceptance of man-bashing.

She's also correct about the darkness present and the difficulty reading many of the conversations here (and elsewhere in the manosphere). There is a lot of unbridled hatred and anger--and while understandable to some degree, these aren't productive or helpful things. It results in threads like this one where a woman who actually sympathizes with what a lot of men go through is called a cunt and a whore and roundly discredited because she is a woman and identifies as a feminist.

I'm personally pretty sick if identity politics, from all sides of the ideological fence. Feminist, alt-right, Democrat, conservative, Bernie Bro, libtard, SJW. Ugh. Let's just realistically address the issues we face. The vitriol and splitting only stymies all of our efforts. I mean, even BLM activists have some legitimate complaints, as do feminists, as do we. And here we've got someone willing to try and bridge the gap and we just call her a cunt.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

is [an emerging] sexual hierarchy among men

There has always been a sexual hierarchy - imposed on us by the hypergamous nature of women.

Redpill […] and various forums has been about how to deal with being a beta male, how to deal with being at the bottom of the pile.

Err... no - TRP tells you hose to get up from being the bottom of the pile. Or at least telling you that you ARE at the bottom of the pile, so you don't end up being a sexless wageslave for an ungrateful wife.

As always - the nature of TRP is interpreted to further the goals of the feminist talking about us.

They are observing a pattern and they are being told you are not supposed to observe it. So what's our answer to that, what's our alternative to that?

In other words..."those guys are telling the truth, what can we do about it???". Obviously agreeing with the truth and leaving it at that just wouldn't be an option...

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Every ex blue pill became red pill after acknowledging this. She's at the start of the rabbit hole!!!

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lmao I tell ya, I dont see it happening. The blue pill is an addictive drug

[–]mister_dice 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Socialist Feminist you say? Would that mean pussy for everyone if it were true socialism?

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (13 children)

This is the beginning of the "Pace and Lead" tactic. I have seen this happen at least a half dozen times on Eddit. Soon, Feminists will be using Red Pill as a way to capture the weaker men among us by faking solidarity. Then they will use the warm fuzzy feelings to turn the weaker ones into feminists.

The Atheism+ thing is a perfect example. Feminist Socialists are very clever and powerful. Our overseers know how this all works and they use the same tactics and strategies over and over to great effect.

[–]DysfunctionalBrother 13 points14 points  (1 child)

They are literally machiavellian, they will infiltrate it and turn it into feminism slowly over time, it just wont be called feminism anymore.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Coming soon to a Theater near you - RedPill+ (for that RedPill man who still wants a strong woman by his side.)

[–]regulator619 5 points6 points  (7 children)

As far as Atheism goes, it is valid. Many myths about God have been debunked by science. Intact, Atheist people are the TRP of the religious world.

[–]Senior Contributoradam-l 8 points9 points  (12 children)

I'll try to get her read my book, see where it goes.

[–]JackGetsIt 10 points11 points  (7 children)

Hi. I've seen your book posted before. Does your book have any cold hard facts that refute the narrative in modern U.S. Women's history courses that women were treated like property and cattle in the past? I do believe the validity of scholarship on coverture laws but I'm confident that as a whole female 'enslavement' just wasn't the case and I'm looking for a well research counter argument. Do you know any other good books in this field besides your own? I've heard Paul Elam has a book on gynocentrism but I haven't tackled that one yet either. I have listened to Girlwhowriteswhat. She has an 'Internet Famous' video on the modern cover up of historic male disposability. I'd love if she put together a text on that topic as well.

I'm asking this because I'm constantly in discussion with men and women that are thinking about coming over to redpill thinking but the patriarchy argument is very strong in them and only good historical scholarship will start to peel them away from that.

I'm wondering if there's also a bit of a coverup in the publishing industry for authors that want to write about this topic because I really struggle to find them? Thanks in advance for your response!

[–]Senior Contributoradam-l 9 points10 points  (6 children)

There hadn't been a book to systematically refute the argument of past female oppression, up to recently. The fact is, of course, that females have always been the privileged sex. There is, now, a fantastic book that does exactly this: for several historical periods, from ancient Greece and Egypt to recent Nazi Germany and the modern West, historian Martin van Creveld, in his book The Privileged Sex collects and presents the most important evidence that this is indeed the case. As he writes, when he first started his research he though he would have a hard time finding the evidence, but he found so many that "their classification would be the work of not one, but a hundred Mathuselah's". It is an absolutely must-read book.

About Peter Wright's Gynocentrism (not Paul Elam's), you can read my review here. It focuses heavily (almost exclusively) on the development of the narrative of "romantic love", from Medieval to today.

As a writer, I can tell you that there is no chance that the mainstream publishing industry is going to give you a podium to talk about these issues from the male point of view. Even van Creveld, who is one of the most established military historians, with hundreds of publications across the world, did not find anyone to publish his book in the English language, and "went guerrilla", as he wrote, and published it independently!

[–]JackGetsIt 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Thanks so much for your prompt thoughtful response.

As a writer, I can tell you that there is no chance that the mainstream publishing industry is going to give you a podium to talk about these issues from the male point of view

This has certainly been the case in the past but I think we are finally seeing a significant change in the culture in general which should hopefully spill over into the publishing industry. We are also at a great time in history for crowd funded/independent publishing/alt media. The manosphere is hitting critical mass. Redpill alone has 216,000 subscribers. Not to mention guys like Crowder/McInnes and gals like Paglia/CHS/Southern that are very anti-feminist and have huge growing followings. The SJW's are losing hold on the narrative slowly.

I'm hoping there's going to be an exciting new niche publishing industry that caters to what I feel is an under served market. The publishing industry certainly services the Republicans well (Ann Colter/O'reilly). There also seems to be a market for PUA writing as well.

It's difficult to get quality scholarship when the feminist have locked down academics so tightly. It's been tough to watch what's been done to Jordan Peterson as well as Bret Weinstein although Gad Saad seems to be hanging in there. The humanities are almost completely monopolized by post-modern feminist ideology. I don't mind the scholarship I mind the fascist way the colleges are running these departments. Almost zero alternative modes of thinking are allowed in. Scary place we are at right now in academics.

I look forward to tackling those books. Maybe I will put some simple summaries together for the redpill subreddit to drive attention to the historical context.

Last quick question(s). Do you know of any online forums that are less manosphere and more focused on the scholarship side of gender historical research? Are there any peer reviewed journals that cover gender history and aren't infected by ideology?

[–]Senior Contributoradam-l 2 points3 points  (2 children)

You are probably right, there are indeed publications from pro-men writers in the last years. I had in mind the more radical content, the dividing line being whether the writer believes that a compromise between the sexes is possible, or a male domination is necessary.

Now indeed, as you write, academia is almost totally occupied by feminists, especially in social sciences. The only organized effort I know at that level is the journal http://www.newmalestudies.com. There are of course specific scholars, like Roy Baumeister, that do great work, but I don't think we can talk about a visible men's movement in academia yet.

[–]Future_Alpha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no chance that the mainstream publishing industry is going to give you a podium to talk about these issues from the male point of view.

That is interesting. Why would you say that is? From the outside, it would seem like they could generate money over controversy - by stirring up the shit, so to speak. Something tabloids have been doing for a long time.

[–]stonepimpletilists 1 points1 points [recovered]

I haven't seen that plugged in here since you first got it proofread.

How goes things with it anyways? I will have to go back for another read, been over a year now

[–]Senior Contributoradam-l 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Marketing it, especially when using an author alias and not being able to use my personal acquaintances, was overwhelmingly difficult. The best part was that I was lucky to have a few respected manosphereans give it thumbs up, like Tom Golden, Steven J. Svoboda, and most importantly rps.

I get some grateful reader's comments every while, but the most satisfying part has been that I was able to turn some close ultra-left friends from feminists to androcentrists almost overnight.

I have been constantly editing it, since the electronic publication and the print-on-demand allow that, to keep it up to date. Send me your email, I'll send you the latest edition.

[–]Modredpillschool 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Highly recommended if anybody is curious, read this book.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dark view of what motivates women? To extract as many resources as possible to promote the continuance of the human race? Sounds like a pretty noble cause to me.

The guy in the video has the oration skills of a bowl of jello.

[–]llmercll 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I've noticed this as well. It's a legitimate problem, down to the societal level, that comes with feminism and even globalization. Now that women are free to choose and aren't dependent on a man, their inherently picky selector status has come out almost pathologically. There can literally only be a small percentage of alpha males, so it results in exactly what OP described, which is bad for everyone but the lucky few.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Mark my words, the next goal of feminism would be to endorse polygamy so many women can share the fruits and labor of one alpha male.

[–]flamethrowup 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's already happening. There was a NYTimes article published a few months ago about the rise of open relationships.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/magazine/is-an-open-marriage-a-happier-marriage.html

I'm fairly sure ten years from now it'll be close to the norm and men who're still actively in the game (I'm not) are gonna have to figure out how to respond. I see a lot of aggressive plate-spinning (on the male side) and more blatant AFBB arrangements (on the female side) on the horizon.

[–]DarkuSchneider 2 points3 points  (1 child)

They are getting more scared and trying to figure out how to reclaim control. They will start more of these token acknowledgements of RP until they see men coming back to the plantation then it will be back to business as usual. Here in the states I have seen two news articles this month lamenting the low birth rates in spite of immigration and one about the wedding industry collapsing. They even cited the herbivore man of Japan being a preview for the US males but kept the blame squarely on the economic barriers to start families there saying it's what is driving it in the US now too.

 

Angela Nagle is starting to creep into the RP zone but does not go into too much details and still has off target notions. All she acknowledges is something is not right between the predominant social programming and reality and lack of spaces to freely discuss issues. See how she says what's "our" alternative to that? They still want to control the narrative. I ran across a recent news story from Australia posted on YT about a growing group of women who are basically ditching their careers and going back to being only housewives like Red Pill Women advocate; aka Traditionalism. You could see the disdain on the feminazi newscasters faces as they reported it and the ladies claimed to not like feminism they interviewed. They just could not understand how the women were happier in the home.

 

Don't let up they are finally starting to feel the pressure.

[–]810809 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Post of the fucking thread. NEVER expect or assume women to be on our side. It is not in their nature, never will be. Remember: honor is a male word and concept. Never believe they truly understand or empathize with us, ever.

[–]pootboy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

how the shit is this an "emerging" sexual hierarchy? it's been going on for 400,000 years.

[–]Subtletorious 1 point2 points  (0 children)

An even larger context of the whole interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLNIO18sruA

[–]etherealembryo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey at least they see us for what we are saying and not what they think we are saying. Gj guys.

[–]FlatEarthShill69 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Isnt womens hypergamy a good thing for the species? At least as far as choosing a mate. If we were to simply remove the welfare state women would have to curb it to an extent, ending up with what i think would be the perfect hypergamous balance. Women wouldnt be able to up and leave their husbands and they would be much more careful with who they had sex with, in fear of real world consequences.

[–]JackGetsIt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Redpill is about the dangers of unchecked hypergamy on the personal and societal level. I think we could all agree that a complete elimination of hypergamy would be a very bad thing. The same way the feminist drive to completely eliminate male competitiveness and violence is a bad thing.

[–]Mi9937 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Looks like someone just got a good dicking

[–]jamesso33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That number to the right >> 216,235 unplugged.

That's not a group. That's an army.

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