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Red Pill TheoryNeediness, not giving a fuck, and abundance mentality (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by untitled1

This is beginner material, admittedly just a rehashing of old ideas. But hopefully it's presented in a new way that will be useful to somebody.


The basic outline goes like this:

  • The most unattractive thing to a woman is neediness.

  • Therefore, in order to be attractive to a woman, you must be non-needy (aka Don't Give a Fuck).

  • To be non-needy, you must have something in your life that is more important than women.

Neediness

There is a lot of debate around here about what makes a man attractive to women. Looks matter most./You should be fit but don't have to be jacked./Looks don't matter as long as you have game./If you're not tall and white then don't even bother.

What makes a man attractive can be hard to pin down, but we can be definitive about what makes a man unattractive: neediness. Nothing dries up a woman faster than a thirsty man. Once you start exhibiting neediness you become pathetic in her eyes; and, as a biological imperative, no woman wants to bear the offspring of a pathetic, needy man.

Some guys are needy from the start, placing women on a pedestal and begging for their attention. Some men start out alpha, but as the relationship wears on turn into little bitches that text her ten times a day because they obviously have nothing better going on in their lives. Creepiness is an extreme form of neediness -- you're so needy that she begins to fear for her safety.

Non-neediness

If neediness is unattractive, it then follows that in order to be attractive you must cultivate non-neediness. This is also known as Not Giving a Fuck, Being Aloof, and, to some extent, Maintaining Frame.

A lot of the early PUA strategies -- pickup lines, negging/teasing, false time constraint, push/pull, agree and amplify -- were really just ways to get woman's attention without appearing needy. The problem is women are actually pretty smart. They're much more intuitive than men and can see through facades pretty quickly. Trying too hard to act non-needy just ends up making you look more needy. Or, maybe you'll fool her for an hour, but once you run out of canned routines she'll see that the "real you" is actually not worth her time.

Sidenote: an extreme form of non-neediness is dread game. For example, you're in a sexless relationship and you start dropping hints about the other attractive women that want to bang you. You're being so non-needy that you're telling her she's replaceable.

Genuinely Not Giving a Fuck

Simply putting on a show of non-neediness will eventually backfire, so you have to cultivate a genuine sense of not giving a fuck. There are basically two options:

  1. "I don't give a fuck about this woman in particular because I have three other women willing to suck my dick at a moment's notice."

  2. "I don't give a fuck about women in general because I have things in my life more important than getting my dick wet."

The first one is called abundance mentality. You approach a chick at the bar and you're able to play it cool because you know that even if you strike out you can always text Sally to come suck your dick. Or if she starts being boring and bitchy you can walk away because you know you have better options.

But this doesn't work for newer guys because they don't have better options. They'll come here and say, "How do I have an abundance mentality when I don't actually have abundance?" That's where the second one comes in.

If the most important thing in your life is getting laid, you're never going to get laid. Women aren't attracted to a man whose top priority is chasing women. You must have something in your life that is more important than women.

Lifting, Your career. Friendships. Hobbies. This is why we talk about Having a Mission. It gives you a Purpose that is more important than women. This is a deeper kind of Abundance Mentality that allows you to play it cool or walk away if you need to. Because you have something that you Give a Fuck so strongly about, you're able to Not Give a Fuck about everything else.


[–]Horse_Grenades 101 points102 points  (24 children)

This made a lot of sense when put this way. Currently working on my life after a long marriage which is about to end. We are currently separated but I'm planning on filing for divorce soon, now that I'm in a better place, mentally. I've had a lot of other interests which I've come to realize I've put on hold for her, for family and I'm done doing that now. Now it's time for me and literally not giving a fuck about others. It's all about me now. Thanks for this.

[–]BigHatNoCattle 42 points43 points  (5 children)

Waking from a 20 year slumber myself. Separated for the last year and recently got the lawyers involved. The scary part is it took a court hearing for me to clearly see her as AWALT. I was so disappointed with myself for being so blind.

I was BB raising her fuck trophy with Chad and she's the victim. I guess that's anger stage, but I'm progressing.

[–]Roaring40sUK 18 points19 points  (2 children)

I was so disappointed with myself for being so blind.

Don't beat yourself up, you didnt know better. But now you do, so move forward.

Use this as a new beginning..

[–]wracky272 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Dwelling on the past and tearing yourself down is a huge waste of energy. Take the lesson you learned and move forward with it. Eat the bird and spit out the bones, so to speak.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kid isn't yours? Did you know?

Good luck whatever happens, you got some bros here to talk it out with.

[–]Compeliminator 11 points12 points  (8 children)

15 yr marriage here and a total of 21 years. woman would do the craziest shit imaginable . i had literally done everything imaginable to take care of her. you guessed it... none of it meant anything.

[–]Lateralanouncer 10 points11 points  (5 children)

For me that has been the hardest part about swallowing the pill. Being a good honest man is not attractive to a majority of woman.

[–]TheSelfGoverned 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It's the best way for them to lose all respect, actually.

I have a alcoholic friend who beats his girlfriend and has took a baseball bat to her car more than once. She is completely in love with him and just got herself pregnant, to seal the deal.

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Eh, that doesnt work with a half decent woman, gotta be reasonable as well. I bet my house his girlfriend has daddy issues.

[–]TheSelfGoverned 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True. I was just pointing out the extreme disparity in outcomes.

[–]Lateralanouncer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That is very common. Three months ago a mate of mine punched his girl in the face. The police got in involved and gave him a court order not to visit the property, but she has been asking me how to get him back loves him so much, etc., etc. He, on the other hand, has been asking me to put her on the spit (no way do I want to get involved with that). She is a 7 or 8 damaged goods.

[–]Bear-With-Bit 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I've been there, altho very short marriage and no kids for me. This is the best part.

[–]GR8AGN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just make sure all of your "P's and Q's" are in order before finalizing the divorce. last thing you want is to be divorced raped because you rushed the divorce before making it benefit you

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    [–]kin-nex7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Ban this beta troll bitch already geez

    [–]BewareTheOldMan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Hello [ice_...] - it's NOT that men never have some level of culpability in a relationship/marriage. The problem is that many men "follow the script:" work hard, graduate high school, college/trade school, meet a girl [dating/courting/fall in love], marriage, kids, good to great husband/father...all of which encompasses sacrifice, loyalty, character, integrity, fidelity, providing for the family, producing/generating income, and protection.

    I get it - as a practicing attorney you see the worst in many situations and the uglier side of people. A lot of guys come here looking for help/advice as they are unaware of female manipulation techniques. Like them, I believed "the lies" and social/Blue Pill conditioning only to suffer as a result of having done the right things. That's the real issue. Long story short...I grew up as a ward of the state [with multiple guardians], but no true father figure/mentors. A solid male mentor who truly cared would have saved me A LOT of frustration, disappointment, and much confusion when dealing with women. I'm older, on the other side of it "mostly clean" as my kids are now adults. Engagement with the ex-wife is minimal. For many men - even with fathers, they are taught age-old/obsolete techniques based on traditional women. When young men are faced with modern women [Social Justice Warriors/Hardcore feminists/False accusers/Highly promiscuous women, et. al.] they get lost in the sauce. Even worse - they lose hope, potential opportunities, money, etc...but MOST important they lose TIME that could have been spent cultivating a true and healthy relationship based in real love, mutual respect, reciprocity, and truly BUILDING the ideal union, family, and career that takes them into old age. We're supposed to be happy at that point. This is why guys are angry, but more importantly disappointed, disaffected, and frustrated. They be like "Bro...I did ALL the right things. What gives man?!"

    Again - as an attorney you have strong advantage in knowing the system, legal procedures, and the extreme advantage in having a pre-nuptial agreement. If you're married, you probably have one in place. If not, it's likely you'll ensure one is in effect. Even with that, surely you are aware it's contestable and that courts tend to favor women...because "bests interests of the kid(s) and because alimony...women CAN'T be expected to move on without your financial support...right?

    Bottom line - if a man is fulfilling all the "big ticket"/major items in a relationship, then everything else the woman is asking for/"missing" in the relationship is an absolute easy/easier fix, e.g.: Quality time...ok, work less. More romance...ok, date night for just the two of them. Communication...ok, let's talk. Easy fixes to save the marriage, but more importantly the family. This is not what's happening. The system is abused because women are "dissatisfied" at a rate of over 70%. NOT abuse, NOT infidelity, NOT finances, but dissatisfaction [although the aforementioned does occur, but not at 70%+]. Instead of working the issue, they opt for divorce and go into a system that rewards them for lack of effort in their OWN marriage. It seems most are dissatisfied with the man they married versus the "Chad" they truly wanted, but couldn't tie him down.

    These young men are right. Women and sex only are NOT the mission. You as a man and self-improvement are the mission...however the man himself defines that mission. Focus on those things and when ready, men can determine the terms for their relationships.

    I do agree that just bedding woman after woman will get pointless. At some point, most men will want an ACTUAL relationship. Those skills, like everything else, must be cultivated over time.

    Your comments though...witty

    [–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 48 points49 points  (11 children)

    What makes a man attractive can be hard to pin down, but we can be definitive about what makes a man unattractive: neediness.

    What makes a man attractive, in the most general sense, is Power.

    • Looks -> genetic Power.
    • Muscles -> physical Power.
    • Game -> interaction Power.
    • Status -> social Power.

    Women are attracted to the "Man at the top (of the local dominance hierarchy she cares about)", aka the man with most Power over other men.

    We find it "hard to pin down what makes a man attractive" because we're rarely observing situations with the broader perspective. For guy A, Looks is important and Game isn't... because guy A observed situation(s) in which dominant hierarchy (and therefore Power) is defined by Looks alone: walking in the street, at the gym, at the beach, before interactions. For guy B, Game is more important than looks... because guy B observed situation(s) in which dominance hierarchy (and therefor Power) is defined more by Game: social activity, group dynamics, important social interaction. And contexts are quick to change: a girl arrives at a club and quickly scope the room. Prior to any interaction, her criteria for Power is Looks alone. As the night goes and guys come talk to her, she quickly warms up to Game skills because now she ranks guys by their social mastery and the fun or boredom it brings her...

    Most men think too small. They observe patterns and quickly decide that one feature makes a man attractive, failing to see that this feature was only the local and temporary expression of something bigger: Power.

    [–]wracky272 7 points8 points  (5 children)

    Me and my SO ran into my gym buddies at a breakfast place yesterday. For the first time in our relationship she saw me outclassed physically by three other guys (not tragically, I've been in the gym about 3 years, them 5+) and lo and behold we're arguing and shit that very night, which is unusual. If it weren't for TrP I wouldn't have seen the correlation at all.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    Good anecdote.

    This is what follows from chicks digging Power. Once she has chosen to pair with a man, every remote possibility that he might not be optimally powerful triggers anxiety. This is what Rollo describes at lengths about Hypergamy being essentially a permanent doubt: "Maybe he is not the best I can get?? Maybe I chose wrong!!"

    And that's where the shit tests start. They are the expression of the hypergamous doubt: she needs to poke you psychologically to check how powerful you are at least in comparison to herself.

    Once you are aware of this, you can't react any other way but with Amused Mastery. You think "Aww my baby girl is experiencing a fit of hypergamous anxiety!", you say "Come here babe!" and you give her a big hug to reassure her that all is going to be ok because you're here.

    [–]TheSelfGoverned 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Rolling your eyes and dismissing her concern would work better than a hug. A hug is you seeking her affection, or breaking frame.

    You should instead agree and amplify her shit test. Use some dread game.

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      [–]wracky272 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      I can't prove causation, obviously, but the correlation was stark. Shit tests are very infrequent with her (hence the SO status), which is why it was so notable. Just the moment of seeing better options for herself physically caused her anxiety and a subconscious need to see me demonstrate my worthiness and to find evidence that she still wants to be with me.

      [–]untitled1[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      I can agree with that. The problem is it's too general to be useful.

      If an incel were to come ask you, "How can I be more attractive to women?" Telling him to "be more powerful" isn't really helpful.

      If a woman wants to be attractive, she only has to worry about one thing: looks. And what makes a woman look good is pretty well-defined and universal.

      With men, it's, as you say, a bit more fluid. We generally say it's a combination of looks/money/status/game, but the specifics can get a little murky. Even looks can be difficult because what looks good varies greatly woman to woman.

      And I agree with your point about men being small minded in this regard. I've seen a lot of arguments around here about whether it's looks or game that's more important. They need to think bigger.

      If a man has power, he isn't needy. And vice versa.

      Sorry, it's late and I'm rambling. I enjoyed your comment. Thank you for contributing it.

      [–]nadolny7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      That should have its own post, showing the big picture behind attractiveness.

      [–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (3 children)

      A funny thing happens when you invest your time into a hobby and fall in love with it. Your time starts to become scarce. You want to spend every minute of everyday immersed in your craft. When this happens, idle conversation initiated by 99% of women becomes annoying. Even uninteresting topics initiated by most people in general are nothing more than distractions in a life with a purpose. Option 2 is essential to the successful life of any man. Before pursuing any women, pursue yourself. Discover a grind that you love and embrace that shit. Everything else, and I mean EVERYTHING else will follow from that, because confidence stems from successful cultivation of the grind.

      [–]1clon3man 12 points13 points  (1 child)

      When becoming an adult one of the things you realize is most conversations, are quite useless. Some people have some ability to function and some talent, but a great number of people are useless at many things including having interesting philosophical conversations or pursuing ideas with enough vigor and drive to see them though.

      From that you can carve two conclusions, the first is that life is meaningless except for the top 5% of people who are not useless, the other is that there is a lot of richness to uncover while most people experience very little of it, locked to their routine and fear and constraints. The latter is a lot more inspiring.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Word. A very useful indication to determine where someone fits in is whether they talk about other people or about ideas.

      [–]Willkuer_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I am a total bitch to my time. My time constantly uses dread game on me. Sometimes she just disappears for some days without a notice. When we remet I am always happy af. Sometimes she is wasted and I feel slightly off. On the other hand who am I to tell her how time has to be spent? I think she will always stay with me and never disappear for a longer time. We are happy in love.

      [–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (13 children)

      This. I have 7-8 plates at any given time. You will become confident quickly when you go into a date knowing you'll have 6 txts waiting when the date is over. You have to expect that these girls will eventually drop off though, you can't keep them entertained forever and another dude will eventually come along and swoop them into relationship status. That's fine, you banged her long enough to not care anymore.

      The key is to keep meeting new girls and cycling. You have to keep refreshing your pool or your dating life will be stagnant. Whether that's approaching or swiping you need to constantly be getting new numbers and going on dates or your abundance mentality will fade real fast...

      [–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (9 children)

      Lack of abundance also cultivates oneities. I've been pretty shot when it comes to consistent pussy for the last year, I met this beautiful girl and we hit it off. The problem is I saw myself starting to crush and I knew she was probably picking that up. I knew I needed to create a bit of abundance and asked the lifeguard at the pool out, brought her back to my place and fucked her. Those oneities subsided like crazy.

      [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (4 children)

      Pretty much. Girls will tell you they LOVE when a guy is really into them. Total BS. Keep spinning those plates and going on dates within reason. Keep that attraction unclear but don't be totally aloof, you have to truly believe and cultivate that abundance mindset or girls will see through it. If you treat a girl different from the rest you are doing it wrong. Been there, done that and failed.

      I had the problem where I was hooking up and going on so many dates, my goals (grad school etc) were suffering

      [–]JohnnyCocktails93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Nothin but truth Tar-Minastir.

      Dread is the product of abundance mentality. Abundance mentality is the product of non-neediness. Non-neediness is the product of fully embracing and internalizing It's only your turn

      And like any turn based game - it WILL end...so act accordingly

      [–]Merwebb 17 points18 points  (3 children)

      Whenever i chase, rejection.

      Whenever i dont even realize she's into me, im game.

      Yep

      [–]untitled1[S] 25 points26 points  (2 children)

      When I first started coming to this sub, this is one of the realizations that convinced me that there might be some truth to this stuff: I was really good at hooking up with women I wasn't attracted to.

      If I didn't like them, they were all over me. When I liked them, I started thinking, "Maybe if I'm nice to her she'll pay attention to me and like me back." Never worked.

      [–]gardenofbacchus 21 points22 points  (5 children)

      Good post, however I'll add that for 2 years chasing women was all I did. I had no money or career or any real hobbies/passions beyond sex. It was also extremely obvious. Women are extremely attracted to men who make chasing women a priority, as long as they know the men are actually fucking the women they're chasing. Trust me here.

      The key to attracting women is nothing to do with anything you've got going on in your own life, that is redundant. Women don't care. They want to be made to feel a rollercoaster of emotions, and feel like you are a man who their friends also want to fuck, and a man who they inherently know doesn't need them and is most probably fucking other, hotter women than her, as this provides the highest and most potent level of vagina tingles and feels which is all women give a fuck about.

      [–]untitled1[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

      Hm, this is interesting to me.

      Out of curiosity, would you consider these "high quality" women? Because I could see this working with one night stands with college chicks and club sluts, but not much else. But maybe that's because I'm in my 30's and I don't have a good perspective on that sort of thing.

      a man who they inherently know doesn't need them and is most probably fucking other, hotter women

      Again, non-neediness and abundance mentality. Even though you had no money, career, or passions, you were still able to convey a sense of non-neediness. And it made their vaginas tingle.

      [–]IntrovertSigma 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      I think the most important thing for every man is to really understand what their life's mission is. Once you know that everything falls in to place much easier.

      Of course it shouldn't stop you from developing your social skills but you should dedicate time and energy to figuring out your mission if you don't already know it.

      [–]Dont_StopBelievin 5 points6 points  (15 children)

      Just finished the book Models, seems like a perfect tldr!

      [–]lululenox 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Reading this right now! this seems to perfectly summarize the first few chapters

      [–]ice_poseidundundun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Don't, i'll tell you the end - just be confident with woman, go out and talk to them and have fun.

      [–]Huskimbo9 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Who's the author yo?

      I'd like to read also.

      [–][deleted]  (10 children)

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        [–]lululenox 4 points5 points  (9 children)

        "Time you enjoyed spending is not time wasted", unlike you there are people out there that likes to read. I get where you're coming from that we should focus more on doing rather than being bogged down by reading materials, and I agree, but it doesn't hurt to read a few self-improvement books here and there every once and a while. There was a study done that we are an average of the 5 people we spend the most time with, meaning we are usually like the people we're closet to. Successful people are usually close to other successful people, vice versa. Most famous successful people you know today are where they are because they have a successful mentors i.e. Steve Jobs>Mark Zuckerberg, Lil' Wayne>Drake, Warren Buffett>Bill Gates etc. However most people don't get the luxury of being with other people of success, so if we want to better ourselves we rely on books. You have a responsibility to yourself to better yourself and raise your SMV. No better way to do so than to read my friend. Read and put into action

        [–]ice_poseidundundun -5 points-4 points  (8 children)

        You assumptions of me not reading are incorrect, I have studied law for over 8 years and handle hundreds of cases every year - go figure how much reading. Everything in this subreddit will only detract from you and your character. This sub is a perfect example of why you need to read the right things and not some random shit some guy spewed out cause he was successful with woman by feeding off their natural insecurities. Good luck with your reading bro.

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          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          Shhh...don't feed the trolls.

          [–]ice_poseidundundun -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

          I go under the title of legal specialist for multiple international jurisdictions, I earn a fair amount of money and I work for myself, I could be getting more but I get to do anything I want, whenever I want...which I do! Happiness > Money. I write thousands of words per day if needed, which need to be exceptionally professional. You think I give a shit enough to proof read my messages here when all I want is to get my point across, and if anyone does identify bad spelling, that automatically tells me they are a cuck.

          Edit: I am not making arguments, merely show you the truth of what is really going on here.

          [–]Dont_StopBelievin 1 point2 points  (3 children)

          Did you read Models? Why are you so dense?

          [–]ice_poseidundundun -1 points0 points  (2 children)

          It's all essentially a variation on "The Game" by strauss and all those old peakcocking cucklords, there is not much to it. You're paying their rent! But seriously, it's all very bad on the long run, just a way to get your dick sucked a few extra times, feels bad though when you go through woman at a fast pace though, or otherwise you are some sort of socio/psychopath.

          [–]Dont_StopBelievin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Didn't pay for anything. I'll read the game and come back with a better opinion for you. Thanks

          [–]ice_poseidundundun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Go read it man, i read in on the plane a long time ago, the pages turn easily but its a bit cringe at times, but has all the basics to picking up women, talking to woman, etc.

          [–]fuckeduphomebody 4 points5 points  (14 children)

          Keep your dick in your pants ! Life is not always about fucking.

          [–]WolfofAnarchy 2 points3 points  (9 children)

          There must be something to this sexual energy shit because I'm on 20 days of NoFap, getting mad IOIs and feeling too energetic for my own good. Getting up at 6, running daily and taking cold showers simply to get all that ⚡ energy out.

          Feels fucking amazing

          [–]ice_poseidundundun 2 points3 points  (8 children)

          sexual energy 20 days of NoFap Mad IOIS

          Your life is as exciting as a brick, just stop and look at yourself, what your doing and how your wasting your time.

          [–]WolfofAnarchy 7 points8 points  (7 children)

          Okay. In a month I will be packing my shit and will work at a prestigious company in Kyoto, where I will live for 7 months.

          After that I'm going to do the same thing in Paris.

          I'm happy as fuck, fit, and I've really got my appearance where I want it.

          I think my life is pretty fucking awesome.

          [–]ice_poseidundundun -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

          Awesome for you, notice how you have that need to prove yourself - this is your issue - go find a psychiatrist or continue reading here to learn how to pick up woman so you have checked all the boxes in life win conditions! Your a heartless, "American Psycho" style manlet, who has insecurity issues which leads you to NEEDING to trick/manipulate women into thinking your a good human.

          edit: why does a hotshot employee of a prestigeous firm need advice on getting girls? What does that add up to cucklord?

          [–]ShagrathBG 6 points7 points  (2 children)

          This guy is hilarious, i almost want to upvote him for his dedication to shitposting :D

          [–]ice_poseidundundun -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

          Thanks! My humor stems from real world realizations! Otherwise, it wouldn't hit the hearts and not be funny.

          In all honesty, some stuff here is good, like "woman want emotional rollercoasters etc" but 95% of the stuff here is cringey AF and puts people on the path of long term failure. This is depending how long you can keep up the facade and not let it effect you internally. Which therefore translates into a heartless, sociopathic bastard if kept up for a certain amount of time.

          [–]WolfofAnarchy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Oh well I'm glad you weren't referring to my mass murder tendencies then

          [–]WolfofAnarchy -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

          Dude idgaf about what women think of me at the moment. I'm a heartless manlet? The fuck is wrong with you.

          [–]WolfofAnarchy -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

          There must be something to this sexual energy shit because I'm on 20 days of NoFap, getting mad IOIs and feeling too energetic for my own good. Getting up at 6, running daily and taking cold showers simply to get all that ⚡ energy out.

          Feels fucking amazing

          [–]SamuraiPizzaCatz 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          cold showers

          These do nothing; You're placeboing hard.

          [–]WolfofAnarchy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Stop projecting your insecurity.

          Cold showers wake you up like crazy and make your heart race. I'm not claiming they're making me a greek god. They just help.

          [–]SamuraiPizzaCatz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          How is stating a fact projecting insecurity.

          [–]borntobeanincel 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          so if i go up to a random woman and ask "Hi. wanna hook up or wanna be a FWB?" and then leave if she says "no thanks!"does this mean i m needy or does this mean I DGAF or both

          [–]thefaceless_097 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This is a good question because according to op, when does one become needy? So if i see a cute girl and i go straigth to her to talk im i being needy? I think not. The relevant thing here is:

          1. Never stop doing what you like for pussy.
          2. Never change your thoughts just to agree with a woman in order to get pussy.
          3. As op stated, you can have a social life, you can seduce, but never think thats the end goal. Talk to them but dont make them your priority. That means for example, if you are in a class you can make a little chat to know who she is and all that shit, but above her is the class so, just talk a little and then proceed to pay attention to the class.

          [–]savagedealer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          A lot of people say stop being beta and learn to not a give a fuck all that can be lumped up into stop falling in love with the woman and start falling in love with pussy instead . If you don't understand this concept your doomed to fall in love and get shit on aka oneitis

          [–]stoicsoul87 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Something I discovered recently is I enjoy turning down sex to women occasionally. I plan this in advance and try to get them extra hot and bothered. Flirting, kino, bringing them back to my place, foreplay, then cold shut off.

          It's a high to see their insecurity on overdrive and all their shit testing goes out the window and you hear things like

          "am I not attractive?" "I used to be skinnier" "do you not like me?" "did I do something?"

          It's a situation they were never prepared for. They may have faced rejection in a social setting but never in the bedroom. Fucks them up.

          I don't respond to any of the hamster generated questions except a "not feeling it" and nonchalantly settle in bed with a book and give them the option to stay or leave. So far out of eight, only one has left.

          The power trip is a huge turn on for me because I've been on the receiving end of this so often in the past. It also conditions them mentally to put an effort when I fuck them in the morning.

          You have to be careful though only do this if it turns you on. Let it be evident that you're turned or she'll spin everything into ED, attack your manhood and use it as a get out of jail free card. Happened once because I was too quick to reject her and wasn't turned on.

          When you're getting a decent pussy supply for your dick, raise the dick's valuation. It's free market economics

          [–]Roaring40sUK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Nice Post. Well structured, and I like the way you split out Abundance and Mission.

          I have a date tonight with an HB8 I "N closed" on Saturday, so its a nice reminder for me!

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Red Pilled gold.

          The first steps are the hardest.

          [–]SamuraiPizzaCatz 0 points1 point  (2 children)

          Now, what do you do when nothing matters to you, even a 'mission'? I've never been able to care about anything past a slight interest ever, not even when I was a child.

          [–]untitled1[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          How old are you?

          I've found this is a very common experience for people in their early twenties. In your late teens everything seems exciting, but then in early- and mid-twenties the novelty of everything wears off and everything seems worthless.

          Keep looking, experimenting, and trying new things. You'll find something.

          [–]SamuraiPizzaCatz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I've been this way my entire life; I've never been excited about anything.

          [–]ironjohnred 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This makes perfect sense of how I constantly fuck things up.