Rant/VentingYoung men who come here to create value in their lives, please stop smoking weed. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by rp614

I aim this mostly at college students. I started smoking weed early in high school, and stopped completely near the end of my sophomore year of college. Currently going into my senior year.

I have by no means achieved the levels of success that I want from practicing TRP philosophy, but I have come to see how much more productive and fulfilling life is without weed. I know you may smoke and still be very in shape, very productive, good grades, and good game with women. However looking back I can see ways that this shit took hold of my life at various points. You get complacent, you schedule your day around when/if you can smoke. Weed drove me to bad bouts of anxiety that made achieving my goals a monumental struggle. I have tried many kinds of drugs, but weed is so dangerous because it is so easy.

I know some people here view alcohol in the same regard, and I understand. I do drink on some weekends. But for the majority of the people, that is the norm. Plus sometimes not drinking can lead to social suicide, no matter how much you want to try and deny it. Excluding alcoholics, no one can go to work drunk, go to the gym drunk, have any kind of productive day drunk. But many people fall into the mindset that they can "easily" do all of these things high. And that's because you can easily get away with these things high. "Get away with". We aren't looking to just "get away with" things here, we are looking to take life on at full force and make the most of what we do.

After a year of reflecting on my drug use, I have seen how much time it wastes. Weed becomes your hobby. Weed becomes your sleep aide. Weed takes your money, because you always feel the need to have some with you. I know life is about compromises, and sometimes we just need to relieve stress and enjoy it. Yet I know so, so many people who started out with this mindset and then the "once in a while" turns into every single day.

Please young people, as someone who used to be a pothead, weed brings no value into your life. I cannot speak for people older than me, but I imagine they may say the same, but I would like to see some opinions.

edit: grammar

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 1479 points1480 points  (74 children)

This subject comes up in many forms and I can always predict the top level comment.

I say stop playing video games, they are a waste of time building no real life skills, and tricking your brain into thinking you are improving / conquering challenges / facing down real competition. And thus sapping your will to find those opportunities in real life for masculine growth.

Top level comment says "dude maybe YOU had a problem with video games but that's on you, video games are fine in moderation. I make 200k a year and play LoL daily, so kindly fuck off from attacking my beloved pasttime (present-time?).

You say "don't smoke, it's a worthless hobby, there's no point, and if you think it's adding value to your life you are probably just hamstering to rationalize it because it feels good."

Top comment... "Nah bro you can smoke in moderation. Here, smoke in these reddit approved ways, have a vape, have an edible, and by the way, you can be successful and healthy and productive while responsibly using pot."

The bottom line is we all have to make DIFFERENT sacrifices to reach a level of success. I can't eat all this delicious shit, I am a food addict and if I start eating shit food, my puny little brain is going to want more, and I will start eating more shit. I'll feel like crap then and I won't work out. 6 months will go by and I'll have undone my last cut. That is because I have self-knowledge; I know I love food, I know I have a bottomless stomach and I still can fuck up a buffet like I'm a broke college kid. So I have to have stricter control and stricter rules in order to be happy and fit on a long term basis.

Another guy might be eating whatever and working out 2x a week, and will look shredded. I know these guys, many of them are 'naturals' physically in the sense of having great genetics and athleticism. These guys can fuck a pizza into their gullet every week and wash it down with a few porters and they'll be fine. Their relationship with food gets to be "I eat what I feel like, and magically my body still looks and performs pretty good."

So the key to TRP is "I do not get to do what a natural gets to do."

If you are a fuck up, you don't get to eat shit. You have to eat the chicken and greens and sweet potatoes and shit. If you are a fuck up, you don't get to smoke. You need to be maximizing your alertness and productivity, and you never should be just chilling in a bored state. Ever, like fucking kill yourself if you want to do that, because you need to be extreme. If you are a fuckup, you need ESCAPE VELOCITY from the shithole of your life, which means you don't get to just do what you see already successful people doing.

Let me repeat that - if you are NOT SUCCESSFUL, then you cannot just do what you see successful people doing. You must have a more extreme work ethic, a more retarded absolutist attitude, and less "cheat" days if any.

Now about weed, is weed really that bad? No. The only problem with weed as far as I'm concerned (especially if you aren't smoking shit-tier reggie joints) is that it makes being bored and doing nothing "fun". Go fuck yourself if you want to chime in like "when I'm high I like to write books and compose music and program apps! Hurr hurr!" You know damn well you're the exception and 99% of redditors are watching netflix, eating food, or doing the same dumb shit with the same beta low achiever friends when they get high. South Park nailed it - weed is bad because instead of doing other things, you're smoking weed which is going to help you enjoy doing things that aren't helpful or productive.

"But but thotwrecker life isn't about being productive! Why do we have to be such nazis! You are allowed to relax bro!"

No fuck that, Elon Musk is allowed to relax. Successful people are allowed to relax and do things that aren't focused around accomplishing shit. Unsuccessful people aka all of you who don't own a home, don't drive what they want to drive, don't have the rotation of bitches they want, etc... you should orient your life around being productive. You shouldn't tolerate a hobby that lets you have fun sitting on the couch. If you are unsuccessful, you have weak will. If you have weak will, then the lucy leaf is too much for you - you will enjoy it responsibly until you realize you're smoking to help yourself avoid stress or anxiety about your life being shitty. You're using it responsibly until you blaze up when you have nothing better to do, and you realize that when I ask you what was the last book you read, you respond with something you read in college.

So that's my perspective. The Red Pill knowledge is only useful if you have the self-awareness to say "here is where I am in life, and here is where I'd like to be." TRP is also about looking at yourself in the mirror and figuring out why that gap exists. If there's a gap in your life and you're spending a lot of time on gaming, netflix, weed, shit friends, reddit, drinking, whatever it is... then chances are completely eliminating those shit hobbies with an autistic level of absolutism WILL help you. You have to have the self-knowledge to say "I'm a little fuck up who doesn't have the work ethic I need to hit my goals, I'm not fucking the bitches I want to fuck or making the money I want to make, so I don't get to do the fun stuff that a more successful guy would." That is the heart of TRP - you do not get to do what I get to do, and I do not get to do what Chris Pratt gets to do, and he doesn't get to do what Leo gets to do.

[–][deleted] 159 points160 points  (3 children)

As a pothead who is not a natural, I'll be returning to read this comment. Well, fucking, said.

[–]PipingHotSoup 34 points35 points  (2 children)

Jordan Peterson tier advice

[–]1OneRedSock 38 points39 points  (0 children)

The only top-level response worth reading. The denial in this thread is palpable. The vast majority of the responses are from potheads who would rather spend more time hamstering over their pot use than consider an alternative to their current life style.

Then you have the guy talking about how he gets high all day but it's okay because he's really made it in life; you see: he's a delivery driver. Well call the bank to enlarge their vaults, we got a delivery driver over here about to make a deposit. Totally ignoring the fact that he can't handle living his life without the veil of pot clouding his mind all day. He literally lives on assistance every waking hour, but sees this as totally not a problem.

The only reason you should be living on any drug-related assistance for every waking hour is if you have some malignant form of cancer that is slowly killing you and the only way to make the pain subside is with constant pot use. I've seen this in a family member, so I understand the importance for those who spend almost every moment of what little time they have left on this earth in severe pain as their insides are eaten away by multiple forms of cancer.

Any other reason for constant drug use is the result of a weak mind that can't handle the real world, and requires a crutch to survive. It ain't making you stronger, I can guarantee that. And when the shit hits the fan and you can't find any pot around to take the edge off, I guarantee you're about to hit an all time low.

[–]GIGANTIC_NIGGER_DICK 66 points67 points  (3 children)

Shame this is at the bottom, one was one of the best comments in whole thread. A lesson in always reading ALL the comments on a post.

[–]toodleoo77 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Sort your comments by best.

[–]GIGANTIC_NIGGER_DICK 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This was at the very bottom with 2 up votes when I posted that comment.

[–]ECoast_Man 37 points38 points  (2 children)

I would even go further. Once you hit wake and bake everyday status, it's only a matter time. Every. Single. One. That I know eventually ends up neglecting things. This can be cleaning your place, lifting, going out, whatever. Eventually, you start racing home to smoke, kill an hour fucking around, then decide you'll do something, or maybe not - you have Netflix.

When you reach that stage, everyone of you will start having to make excuses to yourself as to why you're not as productive as you should be.

[–]ImHydeRightNow 1 points1 points [recovered]

I agree 100%. I smoked daily for about two years and quit two months ago. I give myself two cheat days a month, and I prefer to save them for days where I can smoke with friends and we can chill and make music (I have a day off today so that will be happening shortly.)

What made me want to quit was exactly what you were saying. I realized although I know plenty of successful people who smoke pot, they didn't start smoking until after they had achieved a lot. Weed should be used as a reward. It is a great drug to use once you get yourself somewhere, it's especially great for older people because it relieves a lot of issues they deal with daily, and they don't have to worry about sputtering out and being lazy because they already have a lifetime of achievements behind them.

I'm 23. I've accomplished some stuff, but there is so much ahead of me that I need to work hard on. I don't have time to sit on the couch stoned out of my mind binge watching That 70s Show for the 5th time.

I should also add on, I have bad IBS and I used weed for medical purposes. I switched over to straight CBD, which has the same healing effects without any of the negatives of THC. Some people with severe pain may need the THC too, but if you want to go the medical route, stick with straight CBD to minimize side effects. The very minimal side effect I have with CBD is just sleepiness if I take too much, but I'm much better at dosing now so that rarely happens. That one side effect is far less than the side effects of the drugs my Dr. wants me to take, plus CBD is cheaper and way healthier for the body.

[–]lunklife 1 points1 points [recovered]

"Only successful people are allowed to relax." Thats probably the best mindset to have, especially someone who is my age and just starting out in real life. Just wanted to say thanks, i really found your comment helpful and insightful. Its a motto i want to keep in my head for the future.

[–]PreOrgasmGroanLness 10 points11 points  (0 children)

But do relax sometimes, or you're going to go nuts. Even if it's 5 minutes. IMO that mindset can be otherwise dangerous

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Fantastic comment. I always cringe at these misguided posts for the same reason.


The objective here folks is not to create 'the perfect ego identity' and have us all smush into that mold, but instead to objectively understand ourselves, what we want, what path will take us there and then how to stay on that path.

There will be manny variations from person to person.

[–]livinlavidal0ca 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Disappointed that nobody made a solid joke about his pizza fucking

[–]lord-denning 7 points8 points  (0 children)

So many good concepts here in one comment. The idea of not being able to do what a natural does, because you are not a natural. The idea of not pursuing idle dopamine release because it bleeds away drive to achieve real goals. The idea of practicing restraint in order to achieve goals so that you don't hijack your reward system, and re-connecting your dopamine releases to achieving your own goals in the real world. All clearly coming from hard-earned experience. Listen up men. This guy knows what he's talking about. This is bought with real experience.

[–]pmmedenver 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The interesting thing about this comment is that by subscribing to this attitude, you must admit "I am a fuck up" which undoubtedly takes its toll on your confidence. I don't disagree with your sentiment, however I consider myself to have "made it" and thus don't consider myself a "fuck up". Am I fucking super models? No, but I am happy with where I am. My comment only really applies to those who have put in the work and those who are willling to say "this life I have is good". At some point you do get to look around and say "i'm happy with where I am". Grinding is good but inner peace is better.

[–]SelfTaughtPiano 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm a little fuck up who doesn't have the work ethic I need to hit my goals, I'm not fucking the bitches I want to fuck or making the money I want to make, so I don't get to do the fun stuff that a more successful guy would.

Thank you I needed to hear this. I'm gonna list hobbies of mine which drain me aggressively from here on out

[–]1GreenPiller 4 points5 points  (1 child)


[–]vsvp815 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Arguably one of the best and most accurate comments I've ever seen.

[–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No fuck that, Elon Musk is allowed to relax. Successful people are allowed to relax and do things that aren't focused around accomplishing shit.

it's funny I was watching a video Tim Ferris did and I he said. they NEVER stop working. that's what makes them so great. to STAY at the top you have no time to relax because you are at the top.

[–]leviathan51 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do alcohol sometimes, most of the time socially; probably once every two weeks. I often smoke shisha, half of the time socially (you wouldn't believe what hot girls you can get over one waterpipe), or during laborious, boring or frustrating work - it gets to relax you nicely.

And I sometimes smoke weed - once every three or four weeks. I use it as a reward for me; I smoke alone in the evening after a month of hard work, either doing some more or finally chilling for once. You can train this idgaf attitude so neatly on the weed. It relaxes you. Makes you enjoy that little time more.

But like with anything, you have to look how much you do it and don't overdo. Never ever smoke daily. Consume the plant, don't let it consume you.

[–]1RPAlternate42 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Stop smoking weed as an escape.

This applies to anything:

  • alcohol
  • fapping
  • women
  • video games
  • spending money

Anything that provides you with dopamine has a potential for abuse.

That said, I actually plan to start using weed, soon. I'm growing it, so it's a delayed gratification reward. I also don't need much for the effects and am not a big user to begin with.

[–]BrodinsOats 75 points76 points  (23 children)

Chronic daily cannabis usage will cause ADHD-like symptoms (distractibility, reward-seeking) and increase baseline social anxiety, negatively affecting your sociability.

All while you're not even high. Even if you just consume a little bit in the evening before bedtime. And it does so in a very subtle but powerful manner. It's very insidious.

This is as-told to me by my psychiatrist and neurofeedback technician, and then confirmed by my experience.

That's not to say that it's without its merits. But the costs rapidly start to outweigh the benefits when you consume regularly (daily or several times per week).

Edit—read for yourself: An Evidence Based Review of Acute and Long-Term Effects of Cannabis Use on Executive Cognitive Functions.

[–]titsmegeee 1 points1 points [recovered]

This happened to me im sure of it. Haven't smoked in a decade now. Did they discuss how reverse effects?

Mediation is the only effective tactic i have found so far for increasing concentration.

[–]BrodinsOats 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Simply stopping will reverse the effects. If it's already been 10 years then idk, I can't speak to that.

Neurofeedback is effective at reversing the effects, too. It's like meditation on steroids. Look up a Joe Rogan episode on neurofeedback with Dr. Andrew Hill.

Edit: I've also found social media to have a similar negative effect on attention. Including Reddit.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah my attention and mental willpower is not what it used to be nor is my memory. I meditate also to increase concentration. Weed is INCREDIBLY bad for you, I smoked for 5 years or more and know this 100%. People who say otherwise are fucking lying scum or deluded about it like I was and promoting a damaging drug.

[–]PreOrgasmGroanLness 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Even if you just consume a little bit in the evening before bedtime.

Disagree. Micro toking weed is one of the best things happening to my mental state

[–]BrodinsOats 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is effective as an antidepressant, or for coping with stress. But there is a cost, as I described.

It will keep you stagnant. It's an avoidant coping mechanism. It will prevent you from developing the ability to manage negative emotions on your own.

[–]Surprisedtohaveajob -1 points0 points  (2 children)

You are right. Last week, I was visiting someone I care about, who is in psychiatric care. I had a chance to speak to his Dr. The Dr was blunt in his assessment. The condition was a result of weed. The Dr took me out in to the hallway, and pointed at a couple of 40 to 50 year old men, standing mindlessly in the hall. He said, what they "have in common is marijuana".

He spoke about how some people can smoke, and walk away from it, but that others pay a high price, especially with Anxiety, Depression, and Paranoia. And he's said it is getting harder to help these people, because when he tries to talk to the patients, or their families, the frequent response is now, "well it's about to be legal anyways." [this is in Canada]. He sounded really frustrated, and I think he spoke to me probably because he needed to vent.

[–]Throwawayhelper420 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Sounds like you know a bad Dr who is stuck in the 70s. There's been no evidence showing weed can do that, the closest thing is that it can cause latent, but eventually guaranteed, mental illness to manifest earlier. He probably could have pointed to them and said "what they have in common is alcohol" or cheese, or stress, or lack of exercise, or if he's smart just mental illness.

No doubt I'm glad I quit smoking weed, but not because I was afraid of being turned schizophrenic, I just feel manlier and I think weed may have been increasing estrogen and decreasing testosterone.

[–]Heinzdoofens 140 points141 points  (39 children)

Weed or smoking or porn or masturbation or drugs or even girls - They are an addiction.

As soon as we leave them be, our life will be much much better.

Stop Chasing Dopamine Release

[–]vezokpiraka 64 points65 points  (19 children)

You mean stop chasing the only thing that gives meaning to life? Serotonin and Dopamine are the only reasons people function. Telling someone to stop chasing Dopamine releases is like telling them to stop living.

[–][deleted] 59 points60 points  (3 children)

It would make more sense saying "Stop Chasing Useless Dopamine Releases"

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick 2 points3 points  (2 children)

dont chase any kind of dopamine release that can be achieved in less than an hour?

[–]Urishima 11 points12 points  (0 children)

So if my wank takes more than an hour I am fine?

[–]CaptainFalcon___ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty late here, but the right answer is something like "Stop chasing dopamine releases that you didn't earn."

[–]Torabor64 3 points4 points  (14 children)

Speak for yourself. RP men live for their mission, not for hedonistic pleasure.

[–]halfback910 73 points74 points  (4 children)

Seriously? Seems the entire subreddit is about crushing pussy.

Life is ultimately meaningless. Completely meaningless if we don't enjoy it.

[–]Torabor64 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I agree, that's the only thing people talk about, and it's a shame. I've always thought about TRP as self-improvement rather than sexual strategy, at least it feels that is the way it was intended when I revise the sidebar and the recommended books.

[–]PreOrgasmGroanLness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

However life is meaningless so whatever is worth for you, go for it. Why bother being unhappy?

[–]Heinzdoofens 5 points6 points  (1 child)

we get to enjoy something only after we achieve something. Frankly speaking, most of the guys here including me would be losers if we see ourselves in the mirror properly. We are failing in achieving our dreams whether it be crushing pussy or a good grade point or a job solely because we have stopped improving ourselves and started enjoying something.

It is dedicated to those of us who are addicted to something to quit it and improve ourselves, so that in the future we can enjoy a better quality of the same shit which we enjoy.

Would we be here if we were happy with our present life?

[–]1empatheticapathetic 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Achieving your mission releases dopamine.

[–]burnyr 9 points10 points  (11 children)

Are you saying we should stop fucking altogether?

[–]Heinzdoofens 43 points44 points  (3 children)

dont get addicted to pussy

[–]ATPsynthase12 7 points8 points  (1 child)

No, there is a difference between being enjoying the activity and doing it because you're addicted.

You like to fuck when you actively seek out attractive women to fuck and don't let pussy control your life. You're addicted to pussy when you'll fuck any hambeast with her legs open and will do literally anything for a girl in exchange for sexual contact.

Just like with alcohol, the quality of the woman you sleep with can determine how addicted you are to pussy. If you're bringing home the female equivalent of Pabst Blue Ribbon because she was the easiest to get, then you're probably addicted, but if your bringing home "top shelf" tier women or at least the maximum quality you can achieve then you're fine.

If the best you can do is PBR quality, then your fine, but if you should be bringing home $400 vintage wine and you're bringing home Black Booster Whisky because you're desperate then something is up.

[–]1mental_models 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stay on your path to success.

When you partake in a short-term negative impulse, it's like taking an equity loan out against tomorrow. Costs you time, and maybe gives you a hangover. Do it repeatedly, and you'll find you've followed a shitty path that has winded far away from your path to success.

[–]overcomplicate 16 points17 points  (4 children)

I'm gonna get stoned and read this later

[–]steasybreakeasy 170 points171 points  (45 children)

So we can drink responsibly, is there not an option to smoke responsibly? You make a lot of good points, including staying productive. But there is plenty of room to add cannabis into one's diet without smoking every damn day.

TL;DR please smoke responsibly

Personal preference: Small low temp dab or edible (high in CBD) once a week.

[–]ATPsynthase12 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I mean while I'm not a fan of getting drunk/stoned at all, I think minimal use is okay. Like everything in life, use in moderation is key. The only issue I see with this is that the kind of people who use drugs/drink regularly tend to have poor willpower and a weak ability to delay gratification.

The trick is to be able to stop yourself at 2-3 beers/cocktails and still enjoy yourself.

Also always keep in mind that even if a substance isn't technically addictive, due to the neurophysiology of the brain any pleasurable activity can become addictive. That surge of feel "good chemicals" from a pleasurable/exciting act is why we have people who are addicted to porn/masturbation or are adrenaline junkies. I believe it is also why we have these stoner burnouts who do nothing but smoke pot and sit around.

Tl;Dr: moderation is key; even if something isn't addictive, keep in mind that any act you find pleasurable can become addictive. So when in doubt exercise healthy restraint.

[–]xardez 1 points1 points [recovered]

So we can drink responsibly, is there not an option to smoke responsibly?

There isn't for me. Maybe it's different with low THC strains, but weed absolutely gave me the munchies every single time which blew my macros for a week. There was also this lingering, mentally retarding effect that lasted for a month after smoking where it felt like my brain operated at 70% efficiency.

[–]Old_Memes_Never_Die 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Same for me, I'd be a complete stoner If I didn't get crazy munchies everytime I smoke, when I do it's mayhem for my macros, I eat everything in sight, hell even water feels extremely good.

I'd love to be able to smoke responsibly, but even if I was bulking it would be way too much.

If you can't do something responsibly, admit it and either fix it or stop completely.

[–]WideawakeMind 1 points1 points [recovered]

Wouldnt veggies and fruits alleviate munchies?

[–]dangercat415 1 points1 points [recovered]

Couldn't agree more:

  • can't sleep: indica
  • need to go to a party but have severe anxiety: sativa

Also helps when you're going through massive amounts of stress or are sick.

I like to stay stoned when I'm injured as it makes the time pass faster.

[–]1TrenGod37 41 points42 points  (18 children)


  • indica: freak out
  • sativa: freak out

I always like the idea of smoking weed and what I thought It would do to me. But it never turned out that way. Me just bugging the fuck out questioning every situation I'm in. Being thrown into situations I swear would only happen when I was high. I always had a bad time. I don't know how some of you guys smoke everyday

[–]TheRedditGod 8 points9 points  (4 children)

This happened to me for a very long time and I never understood how people can smoke and be around their parents or not be completely retarded until around 8 months ago when I started smoking a fair bit more which raised my tolerance making me a lot less stupid after smoking than before, and just giving me a chill high instead of a crazy freak out like before.

[–]1TrenGod37 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I smoked 7 times a day for 3 years. Never got better lol

[–]asianchocolate 1 points1 points [recovered]

Why even smoke that much if you just freak out?

[–]1TrenGod37 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Bc I was an idiot back then and gave into peer pressure

[–]PreOrgasmGroanLness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You guys smoke too fucking much and then keep on wondering why is it working bad for you, then go cringe on forums on how weed is bad. Not everything directed at you

[–]nazis_are_socialists 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Being thrown into situations I swear would only happen when I was high.

Oh yeah. I can relate to that.

[–]vangodloss 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Hash. Try hash. Moroccan preferably

[–]wander_company 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Seen a lot of your comments and posts lately. We gave a lot in common dude haha

[–]ImHydeRightNow 1 points1 points [recovered]

People react differently to drugs. What mellows out one person may make another freak out. If weed makes you anxious, don't use it.

Being thrown into situations I swear would only happen when I was high.

When I was smoking daily a lot of my anxiety was because I was smoking. I really relate to this.

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yep, this makes perfect sense. When I smoked weed in college, it wasn't the weed itself that made me anxious. It was whether I would get caught.

When I smoke weed in my apartment, I don't get that anxiety. It's pleasant. I guarantee you that if weed was legal, you wouldn't be having as many people or very little people getting anxious from it.

[–]beatsdropheavy 1 point2 points  (2 children)

your body adapts, my friend and i both came to the conclusion that after smoking so often, the paranoia doesn't even register most of the time and its just a pleasant high

[–]1TrenGod37 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I actually heard the opposite from People the longer they smoked the worst it got. And it didn't matter for me either way. I freaked from day one. And then smoked 7 times a day for 2 years. And it never got better

[–]1mental_models 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to smoke as part of my daily routine, and it basically calmed my anxiety, while giving me a boost of energy (may sound like contradicting effects, but not really). As far as things like fitness or mental clarity, I was operating at a high level.

After some significant health issues, and a long time away from smoking, It has given me bad anxiety (to the point of insomnia for that night) when I dabbled in it.

Kind of like a childhood friend with whom you've gone in different directions, and you can no longer hang out with.

I'd like to try again sometime, but I'm in no rush.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Incorrect it's VERY harmful. 5-6 years of experience. It is objectively bad for you no matter who you are- high is high- it's not like you get some other magic high different to weed, it'd the same drug with relatively the same kind of high, and it us TERRIBLE for long term memory attention and clarity

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Just quit drinking and smoking weed and take CBD. Problems solved.

[–]swordshab 29 points30 points  (10 children)

Just do LSD or shrooms once every couple years, keeps me grounded

[–]fromthebottom 12 points13 points  (9 children)

So true. More often if you don't feel like you could "lose it" mentally

[–]WideawakeMind 1 points1 points [recovered]

What do you mean by lose it mentally? Go insane?

[–]4-Methylaminorekt 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Probably to lose control of their thoughts/trips. A big issue some people have with psychedelics is that they just can't "go with the flow" or just accept where their trip is going and then get stuck in bad thoughts because they want to keep control at all times.

Though for some people doing psychedelics too often can make then feel like they lose touch with reality as well. It's pretty unlikely to go mentally insane from a trip, unless you're genetically predisposed to a mental illness.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (7 children)

Weed is fine if you can wait til you do everything you need to get done in the day before you smoke and then just smoke to unwind at the end of the day. Waking and baking and toking all throughout the day is brutal.

[–]alcaholicost 30 points31 points  (6 children)

Hey old man winter. How you doing college senior.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It's not the substance, it's the person who has the problem. Do whatever you want as long as you're not being a dumb pothead or a belligerent alcoholic and you are constantly progressing in life.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I smoked marijuana while in college.

I could get As in any language class and ace the tests while high. Languages come to me very easily.

...but when I switched from international business and languages to Physics for Engineering...

...I needed to cut that shit out quick. Maybe the occasional puff every few weeks was OK, but you need every ounce of short term and long term memory (at least I did) to do well enough to make it to grad school in physics.

[–]blackedoutfast 16 points17 points  (2 children)

alcohol is so much worse than weed. alcohol is terrible for your body and brain. it makes you act like a dumbass. and it's very addictive. and if you get too addicted, you can actually die from alcohol withdrawal if you try to quit cold turkey. alcohol is a terrible drug, it's just legal and socially acceptable.

if you smoke weed and it makes you lazy, it's probably because you're smoking the wrong strain. different types can have vastly different effects. indicas cause that very relaxed, chill out, lazy type of high. sativas are a lot more energetic and give you a mental buzz almost like a stimulant.

[–]martincw2 1 points1 points [recovered]

I agree with this, i smoke alot you just have to be intelligent about it

[–]B12shots 12 points13 points  (1 child)

This is a personal experience.

[–]Newreddawn 22 points23 points  (0 children)

It's not social suicide to not drink. It's called socializing without being a pussy. Once you learn how to assert yourself socially without relying on the alcohol crutch, then people actually respect you. Weed is the least of your problems.

I'm far out of school, making good money and I have everything I want for the place I'm at in life. I don't suffer from any of the problems you mentioned about weed. I think over time you will realize it wasn't weed that was your problem, it was your lack of control over the substance. Happens to a ton of young people. Life is all about choices, I think weed is fine as long as you have your priorities straight (can't happen if you're suffering from addiction.)

[–]thedoze 41 points42 points  (11 children)

You have no discipline for yourself and you blame weed for your failures. You have the balls to then tell others how to live their lives? Go run back to momma's skirt.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There is certainly nothing wrong with a little unwinding with some pot. It certainly affects people differently but really there is no one way to lead ones life. To much of anything is normally bad, control is key with certain things in life.

[–]Hector_Castillo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Former huge smoker here. From sophomore year to the year I spent in Cali, I smoked multiple times a week. When in Cali, I was smoking multiple times a day. Probably spent >$1,000 in weed that one year (bongs, pipes, etc), not including all the pizzas I ordered while high.

It was fun, but it severely hurt my productivity. Also, I used to get high and go out. Mixed results, honestly. If you're a high energy guy with anger problems, weed can mellow you out. Otherwise, it'll do too much and you'll be too insecure, anxious, and feminine. You think everything you do is awkward and even find yourself asking other people if you're being weird. This scene is funny as fuck, but actually real as fuck, too.

Sex on weed...sometimes it was mind-blowing, especially with this one particular plate...god she was hotter than a fucking furnace, but other times, it'd make me anxious and I'd even lose erections and not be as dominant as I could be.

I think E.T. Thomas said it good when talking about people who asked him why weed was bad. His response was, "How is it helpful, tho?"

If you want a vice, weed is probably better than drinking, smoking cigs, or any other substance, but don't fall for the belief that it has no long-term negative effects, isn't addictive, or that since it's a plant, it's okay. Opium comes from a fucking plant and that shit is insane. All chemicals are plant based at some point. Synthetics are only created using natural means, which means, ergo, they are natural, too. It is addictive, it does make you feel stupid, you do have weed-hangovers, and it makes you calm/feminine when you shouldn't be. Also, it can induce panic/anxiety attacks (which triggered me to quit. I had an existential meltdown while playing basketball with friends. I lost almost all motor functions and felt like I was dying).

As always, do as you wish, but if you can, put down the reefer, broh.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 30 points31 points  (6 children)

Drugs are tools. Dangerous and sometimes. unpredictable tools.

The utility of weed is to put you to sleep, dull chronic pain and quite a busy mind. If you are in your 20s, you shouldn't have problems with sleep or chronic pain, and you should always have a busy mind. Stay the fuck away from it. If you are in your 50s with a blown back and years of nagging monsters, then blaze motherfucker, blaze.

I'm also fairly convinced that regular cannabis usage under 25 will fuck you up in the long term. However, I can't believe we actually banned this stuff.

[–]Bmoutopoul 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Just curious why you think chronic use under 25 will fuck you up. I know the brain is still developing in your early 20s

[–]Captain_Sorbo 32 points33 points  (0 children)

On the psychology side some use weed to treat stress and emotions rather than building the mental toolkit to deal with life problems.

[–]gthing 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You answered your own question.

[–]iBchyllen247365 11 points12 points  (7 children)

I can see the rationalization but the argument treats weed like a black and white thing that doesn't vary person to person.

There have been many men that have contributed greatly to society while being complete potheads. Red pill men.

In my experience, weed just translates behavioral patterns that already exist. Most of the time, a lazy pothead is lazy in general.

Like anything else in life, moderate.

[–]mortalcoil1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I stopped smoking weed about 8 years ago. It was starting to make me paranoid. This year I got diagnosed with diabetes. I'm fit, but my whole family has diabetes, fucking genetics. The medicine was making me EXTREMELY ill. I was being sent home from work. I was laying in bed for hours. Finally, I remembered weed. Considering I'm an "adult" now with an adult life style it was weird going back into it. I smoke just a few puffs of high CBD before bed. I feel great. My nausea has gone waaaay down. My insomnia is mostly cured. Also, after a heavy weight lifting session sometimes I am extremely sore. This just takes the pain away.

Drugs are a tool. I guarantee a lot of people on TRP are on Adderall. That's just pharmaceutical grade speed. Don't take you speed and shit on weed. Any drug can be abused, but most drugs can have benefits if used responsibly.

[–]fromthebottom 1 points1 points [recovered]

I hardly read this just to say.. don't let any black and white rules dictate your life. I work 50+ hours a week and get high all day every day, listening and making music. I'm a delivery driver.. that title doesn't affect my self image. And THAT MAKES ME HAPPY. Too much of my life was spent doing things other people wanted me to do.. now all I want to do is deliver food (and I have a university mechanical engineering degree). Reconsider what you want, need, and makes you happy before you decide you want a hard working flashy lifestyle. My lady loves me just fine.

[–]rp614[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this. I was pointing this argument towards people who are actively trying to find their mission and are trying to build something of value in their life. It sounds like you are at a point where you have found the things in life you value and a lifestyle you like. These are the things I have not experienced, which is why I want discussion on this!

[–]toodleoo77 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Uh...are you driving while high?

[–]fromthebottom 1 points1 points [recovered]

Careful about concern for others.. is it genuine? Or are you one of those people who wants to feel control over other people's ways. Bringing people down shouldnt bring you up.

[–]Irishminer93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Quantifying any and all aspects of your life is always a good exercise.

[–]yuyevin 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It's just like alcohol. Don't smoke every day just like don't drink every day. Honestly is that so hard to understand? If you HAVE to smoke to be happy, you just need to reevaluate your life choices.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I agree in principal. It's easier said than done though. With alcohol, if I tried to drink everyday I would be disgusted and not want to do it anymore very quickly. I think this is true for basically everyone that is not an alcoholic. With weed... it's just so easy to be high all the time.

[–]biggerbetterjobs 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If you don't want to drink or smoke just go hangout with people who don't drink or smoke. When I was a teenager I used to go to hardcore/punk shows and labeled myself "straight edge" after meeting other kids who didn't like drinking and drugs too. We would all hangout together and go to shows, skateboard, or just go on random adventures. We'd even go to parties and just hangout/not drink. No one really gave us shit about it other than the occasional drunk idiot talking shit.. But in most cases it was some pathetic loser who feels insecure with himself around sober people.

I'm kind of reliant on weed and sick of blowing $40 every 5 days on it. Whenever I smoke I just get super tired and have poor concentration and when I go a whole day without smoke I'm super grumpy/agitated at the end of the day. Glad I saw this post today.

[–]RPmatrix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

and when I go a whole day without smoke I'm super grumpy/agitated at the end of the day.

Long time cannabis user here --- try taking Magnesium supplements, they are amazing at reducing 'anxiety' levels ... almost as good as pot is!

Take 800-100mgs daily and enjoy the peace of mind

The RDI for Mg is 450mgs per day BUT most people are lucky to get 150mgs p/d

Trust me, it's the best $10 you'll have spent in a while

[–]1empatheticapathetic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I smoke once every two months or so. Was going to tonight. That's enough for me these days. Gives me a different perspective on life and that's it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do cocaine like an adult. /s (kinda)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Plus sometimes not drinking can lead to social suicide, no matter how much you want to try and deny it.

False. If you don't want to drink you don't have to. That's part of YOUR frame, don't break it for social approval.

[–]loserallday 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I haven't smoked much since high school, but when I did smoke at that time weed made me super talkative for some reason, I would start talking to random people, cute girls etc, which I liked since I was a shy kid. To this day I don't know why since everyone says that weed makes them anxious and quiet around other people.

[–]OpiumDesVolkes84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Many people start with a positive honeymoon period. I was like that as well.

However long term chronic use of weed tends to bring on anxiety, panic attacks, and social isolation. I think if you use it sparingly you'll be fine but when you abuse it problems arise.

[–]mustaine42 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think complacency is the key word.

Probably, weed will not ruin your life. It won't ruin your liver, you won't sell your car for it, you won't commit violent crimes on it, etc.

But it will make you complacent. You will become content, exactly doing what you are doing, which if you're smoking pot, is probably sitting on your ass in front of a screen. You will become happy, doing nothing and being a lazy piece of shit. And I think this is far more dangerous than anything else.

If you are one of those people that smokes and then goes to run 3 miles or play soccer, then this does not apply to you. But most people smoke weed, and sit on their ass until they pass out.

[–]beatsdropheavy 7 points8 points  (4 children)

You're conflating your subjective experience w weed with everyone who smokes weed.

You get complacent, you schedule your day around when/if you can smoke. Weed drove me to bad bouts of anxiety that made achieving my goals a monumental struggle.

Weed becomes your hobby. Weed becomes your sleep aide. Weed takes your money, because you always feel the need to have some with you.

Thats all you bro, dont put it on everyone else.

Please young people

Ok, Father Time

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I do drink on some weekends
But for the majority of the people, that is the norm

Pussy. Peer pressure is where the Red Pill ends and the blue pill is suddenly okay?! If you want to drink, then drink - but don't justify it as acceptable because it is the norm. You know what is also the norm in this world? Being blue pilled.

On the weed part, you spoke wisdom.

[–]KirklandCamber 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Reading comprehension? He said his pattern of drinking on the weekends is the norm, as in it coincides with the societal norm. Not that that is the reason for him to do it.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The but is important in the sentence. It IS justification.

[–]rossiFan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I just never "got" the whole weed thing. I've never felt the need to feel better.

[–]dal2k305 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One time that I got locked up a guy made a great analogy about weed that has always stuck with me.

If I have a shitty pair of shoes, all messed up the soles coming off, When I'm sober I go and buy a new pair shoes. When I'm high all the time I'll think that the shoes ain't that bad, they can last a few more days, why was I stressing so much.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

weed is an awesome aphrodesiac

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (14 children)

I smoked a decent amount during my highschool years, I hope I didn't do any damage like memory problems and iq drop. I've read about that a little. Someone affirm my belief that I'm okay.

[–]newzealander 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You'll never know whether it was the weed or you were dumb in the first place, does that make you feel better?

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (11 children)

marijuana has been proven to be 'neuroprotective'!

You're fine younger bro

[–]hodltaco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Guy in his 50's here-My comment: Amen.

For decades now I've watched men of all ages waste an insane amount of their best years smoking weed and playing video games. Just earlier today (Sunday) I was at my apt. building showing an apartment and one of my tenants, 40's, was literally wearing the same thing he was on Friday having done nothing but weed and PS4 and wearing the same Seahawks jersey the whole time. Life keeps wasting away.

[–]Canedude08 1 point2 points  (1 child)

1 simple word: MODERATION

Don't do anything past that point. If you want to occasionally smoke weed, that's fine, when it becomes the end all be all, then that's when you have a problem. Weed doesn't make people lazy, lazy people smoke weed, and then blame it for them being lazy. Just like video games doesn't make for lazy, socially inept people, lazy, socially inept people tend to flock to video games. Be a self starter, know your damn limits.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love getting high and getting a girl over to bang, watch a movie and go get a burger etc... I think the key to any drug use is self awareness and knowing when a particular substance is having a negative effect on your life

[–]ravenhiss 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This isn't a Red Pill issue. Sure there are lots of people who have their own issues with weed and can see it interfering with their RP goals, but there are others owning all their goals, high as fuck.

My personal weed experience is far from the norm, started smoking late 20s and I also used it as a motivator to do things I didn't want to do. Don't want to do cardio? Have a cone and start, and before you know it, mean cardio workout. Don't want to clean? Have a cone and start, and before you know it, things I didn't even know were dirty or needed sorting are done.

All in all it's a personal choice. The biggest test to see if you have a healthy attitude though is to observe how you react when someone disagrees with your weed stance. If you get angry, then you most likely have the issue.

[–]atlantique16 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The fastest human on land smokes weed and the fastest swimming human smokes weed. I agree people still crush their goals high as fuck.

[–]Mr_Get_Right 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was a daily smoker for about 2 years. I don't regret my time. It was a deeply introspective, spiritual, and healing time. But it served it's purpose, and was hogging my energy and time resources. I found a book that helped me a bunch, "The Potless Pot High". It helped me realize that the things smoking evokes in you are always there, it's just a matter of finding it yourself.

One of the best analogies is being in a pool and not being able to swim. You can kick off the bottom and surface for a moment. That's what daily use eventually becomes. But with practicing sobriety, you can float to the top and stay there. It lacks the same rush, but you can be good fam.

I still smoke one night on the weekend, a tiny amount that gets me blazed(because I keep my tolerance low) and is an amazing experience and invaluable perspective shift.

Right now this is a fine application for myself. But when I needed advice from trp and they said "stop smoking everyday" I DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR THAT. But, it's your own path to walk.

[–]1walkingthelinux 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Weed is medication. Not everyone needs medication.

[–]circlhat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Plus sometimes not drinking can lead to social suicide, no matter how much you want to try and deny it.

All my friends drink, none of them pressure me to drink, and no one will stop being my friend, these are the nicest people I know, and they were the popular kids in school.

My point is you are making excuses for yet another bad useless habit, weed has medical properties, alcohol hurts your level, lowers protein synthesis and HGH

Arnold smoke weed and said it help with his appetite so he could keep making gains

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I take responsibility for fucking up my own life. But I don't think I ever would have fucked it up if I didn't start smoking weed.

Growing up I was one of the most popular kids through senior year. I was a three sport athlete, super social, homecoming king, 3.8 GPA, a gf who was a 9, and my future was extremely bright.

My freshman year of college I picked up weed. I smoked at parties in high school about once a month but never bought my own. In college, it became a daily habit. Started off innocent enough, but before I knew it I was skipping classes because they were easy. I'd get high and chill.

I stopped going to the gym because I no longer played competitive sports. I lost my old social circle. My girlfriend broke up with me and I coped with weed. I got depressed and ended up dropping out of school after my sophomore year. I lost my vision and motivation. I developed anxiety. I stopped going out and started smoking more and more.

I cut contact with my friends because I felt sorry for myself. They eventually stopped inviting me out.

If it isn't evident yet, I hit a negative feedback loop that I couldn't get out of. Yet I continued to smoke.

Now here I am three years later. I just quit 10 days ago. I've been lifting for two years and have made solid gains. I get comments on my physique and I know girls are into me but my confidence is still shot.

It's hard to put on a positive persona when you know you're not living up to the person that you know you are. Or should be, rather.

I enrolled at my community college while working at a fucking grocery store. I haven't had sex in a year. I've been on dates but I always end up self sabotaging and fucking it up.

And honestly. If I never started smoking, I don't think I would have dealt with the anxiety and depression. Maybe, it's impossible to know now. But for 18 years I never had mental health or confidence issues.

I loved going out. I loved to learn. Eventually the only thing I did was get high. So harmless. It's not going to kill you and you can still function. But it's a short cut to happiness. It's an escape so you don't have to face reality.

I will never go back. I have so many regrets but I can only learn from it and move forward.

[–]1Tommy_407 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Weed with a plate right before sex, or once in a while with your bros at a party is ok.

You shouldn't be doing stuff that gets you high everyday in my opinion. Anything. Even if you're Chad. It's just..so...unnecessary

[–]Alpha_Buddha 2 points3 points  (10 children)

Hey old man. Junior in high school here. I don't drink, smoke, cigarettes nothing. I'm not fat and am 6'2" with average skinnyfat build and I still have no experience with girls and feel unproductive and directionless in life. How do I straighten myself the fuck up?

[–]fromthebottom 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Get a "mission". A rewarding hobby to invest in. Fitness is obvious, I find refuge in learning stuff about music and growing things.

[–]Alpha_Buddha 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Hey man. Thanks for the reply. I do enjoy playing guitar, and have started to read a lot these days. Though it's best I don't become a hipster guitarist types or an introverted reader, and keep these hobbies to the limit where they complement my SMV and don't overdo it.
Fitness is something I have to get into immediately. I'm 16, I'm physically at my peak in hormonal production; I must reap the benefits of my youth.

[–]Irishminer93 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Learning to play the guitar won't make you a hipster and reading won't make you an introvert. Both are great skills and habits to have. It's what you do with them that determines their effect on your smv. Simply playing power chords will raise your smv if you find or create the situation for it. Reading makes you more knowledgeable and if your going to continue your trp journey, boy let me tell you. There's a lot of reading.

[–]Alpha_Buddha 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Thanks for the reply. Yeah I've been playing the guitar for 5 years now and I love playing solos and the like on my electric, but in a crowd it's better to pull out the old acoustic and strum some chords.
I have read the sidebar and been here for over a year now. It's better to substitute reading fiction with material that can actually help me in life.
But all that does not matter if I fail to implement this. So far, nofap and meditation have helped me get confident and a bit energetic, and to the point where I definitely feel that my well-being is more important than any girl out there. But again, this fails if I don't get any action in the first place.

[–]Irishminer93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Monk mode is always good, just make sure you make a goal and keep to it. Once you reach that goal, assess yourself. As far as replacing fiction, don't. Simply supplement it with nonfiction. Also, it's always good to read about something you enjoy, since you enjoy the guitar, could always read books related to busking and other ways of using this skill.

[–]fromthebottom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup, but don't read a book to figure out what is important to you. I'd rather be fat and 100% happy then ripped and 65% happy

[–]Patriarchysaurus 1 points1 points [recovered]

Get a part time job, finish HS, and go to college (go STEM or waste time & $$$$$$$$ on a degree that won't even get you a job) . Or you can go into the trades, become an apprentice and get to learn hands-on skill. If all else fails, enlist in the military and let that straighten you out.

[–]Alpha_Buddha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not in USA though. I'm thinking of going to law school (in my country law school is 5 years right after 12th) because the profession is booming right now and money looks good. Also there's no culture of part time job during high school here, so that won't work either.

[–]trpthrowaway2003 4 points5 points  (16 children)

A joint or a Dab (depending on tolerance) after a workout or before bed each day is completely fine.

What isn't fine, is going through a gram or more a day while neglecting your responsibilities and letting it ruin your life.

[–]mutageno 5 points6 points  (6 children)

A joint or a Dab (depending on tolerance) after a workout or before bed each day is completely fine.

I used to think that. Tried a month off and depressive thoughts went away and got a lot more energy. Also weed used to ruin me for conversation at parties.

[–]trpthrowaway2003 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Maybe it wasn't for you then.

Smoking pot helped me quit drinking.

Now, I smoke a nice size bowl of Indica an hour before bed, and that's about it.

[–]mutageno 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I'd consider addressing the drive to drinking instead of changing the vice. Sometimes it's just your brain used to the dopamine kick.

[–]trpthrowaway2003 4 points5 points  (3 children)

The drive to drink was being a young veteran, suddenly void of discipline when I got out.

A bowl or two a day, was a lot better for me than a 12-pack a day.

The 12-pack a day, granted was absolute 0 self-control.

Pot is better as well because unless you pop a powerful edible or something, you can pretty much be a functioning adult within an hour or two if you need to be.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (7 children)

The thing is... if I were to take one hit right now I would get very high because I haven't smoked in years. Eventually I would use more. Now a joint every night adds up over time. Everything you do adds up over time and becomes far more substantial than you rationalize in the here and now. Take a joint every night and multiply the price by 365... that's a lot of money.

Now when you think about what is really going when you smoke... you are basically introducing an chemical exogenously that, guess what, you don't fucking need!

Look at a joint for what it is... it's intrinsic value being some plant (they grow freely) wrapped up in a little piece of paper. It serves no real functional purpose. You have to smoke it to get the chemicals into your system to mimic the effect of feel good neurotransmitters (again, something that comes freely). It is artificial. Absolutely not natural. You didn't earn that good feeling. Or you may be masking a bad feeling that you should be feeling. Sometimes it is good to feel like shit.

You should be able to feel amazing without it.

[–]trpthrowaway2003 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Take a joint every night and multiply the price by 365... that's a lot of money.

True, the amount I smoke (a quarter a week) is about 5k a year.

I think most people who have smoked before. Would both agree that is a pretty reasonable amount, as well as be surprised at the price when you break it down.

(they grow freely)

The stuff you buy in dispensaries is not grown freely.

Good grows, have crazy amounts of money invested in their operations.

It is artificial. Absolutely not natural.

It is a natural plant, that if ingested has positive and medicinal benefits.

Or you may be masking a bad feeling that you should be feeling. Sometimes it is good to feel like shit.

For me, it seems to take away my inhibitions while also helping me just be comfortable being me.

I don't "put on the facade" so to speak.

You should be able to feel amazing without it.

If you feel that way, and live that way, more power to you.

But a natural plant that makes people feel good isn't a bad thing. It's better than becoming an Alcoholic, or a pillhead.

[–]kealh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was addicted to weed. I can relate on what you're talking about, and I feel good that I don't smoke it anymore.

[–]GrongoTheDongo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hasn't gotten to a point of satisfaction yet Advises other people on their lives I seriously hope you don't do this.

[–]demode2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're a hero for posting this. I know what weed can do 'harmless' or not.. but for many it limits their potential. Legalize it, but be smart guys.

[–]sevoque 0 points1 point  (0 children)

New to the community and this is insanely good timing.

I have gone through cycles of roughly every 3 months going back to weed, despite making huge amounts of progress in my life during the three months im not smoking. I go back to it thinking that I've now cultivated some level of discipline to simply smoke in the evenings, though it quickly deteriorates in to a daily sesh with wake n bake straight after gym and it hinders my progress so much - this time around ultimately causing a huge amount of pain on a deep level as I was straying too far from my daily goals and higher purpose.

Not to say that there aren't individuals out there who can make it all work - and not to say that it isn't compatible with a balanced lifestyle, for me, personally, it's not!

I've previously held on to it on an identity level, causing me to think that i can act like a G'ed up rapper. I cant. Haha

[–]thesquarerootof1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am an engineering student at university and this is what I do:

I smoke weed heavily during the summer and winter breaks when I have no classes. Then I stop completely (cold turkey) and complete the semester without touching weed. Its tough at first, but then I just get use to it.

Would anyone recommend doing that? I guess it works for me. I passed all my classes so far with only one C.

[–]mrcooliest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im in the same boat when it comes to social suicide from lack of involvement, but with weed. All my current friends and I do is smoke. Hanging out means smoking. The older i get, the more i realize being social is just getting intoxicated.

[–]MTG_Leviathan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This hit hard to home. You're right, I've been making excuses to still use this but the fact of the matter is my life isn't difficult enough to warrant using it on the regular. Thank you for the post.

[–]SuwinTzi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember a comment from a professor who more or less said the same thing; when you smoke weed, everything even social interactions revolve around weed.

[–]rockinhard130 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Meh, when I drink I like to smoke weed. And the next day is far more productive than if I simply drank.

[–]LordDongler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or you can be responsible and wait until you're done for the day. If anything, it can motivate you to get stuff done if you set goals for yourself.

[–]ShouldersofGiants127 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Top comment nailed it. Smoking weed and video games are the only two "BP" things I do. The video game habit hasnt been an issue since 05, I was addicted to Halo 2 for about 6 months after release and literally did nothing else. One day, the servers were down, so I went outside and played sports with my friends and realized what used to be a daily activity for me went on a 6 month hiatus for this stupid game. From then on, I've made it a point to only play them when I need to give my brain a break or when I stream (potential stream of income in the future)

Smoking weed, I recently realized I want to cut back heavily. Yea I still get shit done, but like you mentioned, Im becoming too dependent about certain aspects of it and I hate being depwndent on anything. I used to do it just cause, but now I only use it to help down a big meal after a workout and before I go to sleep. Even then, it bothers me because what if I take a vacation? I'm not about to start stuffing weed in my ass.

You know what bro? Thanks for posting this. I'm actually smoking a blunt right now, but this is the last time for real. As I was typing this, I realized I'm selling myself short keeping this shit up.

[–]Digons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuck weed. If you, a stoner, had a chance of stopping smoking to do other things, would you? I'm pretty sure 99% of you would.

[–]koolaid_zombie 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Looks like it's time for another purge. Sub's getting watered down with a bunch of trolls and weak pussies.

[–]purtymouth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like you were too weak-willed to hold it together. No need to project onto anyone else.

[–]invisibleink65 0 points1 point  (0 children)

High quality shitpost good job

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 0 points1 point  (0 children)

smoking weed doesn't necessarily mean you're a pothead. you were a pothead, so you quit. doesn't apply to everyone.

[–]atlantique16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am a young man that has a lot of value in my life. I smoke to relax and to help relive physical stress (I'm a MMA fighter CBD/THC does help). I don't spend money on weed, matter of fact I sell it. For me to smoke a blunt (I rarely do) would cost me $3-5, while average people $10.

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