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Red Pill TheoryThere's No Such Thing As Personality (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet

It is the fate of nearly every newbie to become obsessed with micromanaging his image. You see it all the time in askTRP threads: "How do I become more alpha?" or "Help, I think I may be beta and my girlfriend is losing interest". You even see it in the success stories, when guys talk about "finally feeling like Chad".

Don't get me wrong, it's great to have a victory under your belt, and you should be proud of it. It means you're moving past your initial inhibitions and towards real potential. But you're not out of the woods yet - you're surrounded by pitfalls that you can't even see.

What you shouldn't do is become fixated on the image that you're projecting to others. Be AWARE of your image, but do not become obssessed with it - because it is almost entirely a figment of your imagination.

I will begin this discussion with an illustrative parable. Then we'll move to the core theory. After, we'll discuss common roadblocks that RP newbies encounter and how to overcome them.


The Parable of the Boy with Many Faces

There was once a boy of many interests and pursuits. He was a lonely boy, easily bored, and often driven to flights of passion and inspiration.

The problem was, his pursuits were often mutually exclusive. He could not pursue all of them openly without them hindering or precluding one another.

He was an angry boy in search of a scapegoat for his life's frustrations, so he took to fighting.

He was a rebellious boy who liked to shake people's securities, so he took to rule-breaking.

He was a bored boy, so he took to ditching school.

He was a curious boy, so he took to experimentation - with science, and drugs, and girls.

He was a responsible boy whose family depended on him, so he worked a small job and made what little money he could to help out.

He was an only son to a good-hearted single mother, so he did as he was told when he was at home and never gave his mother any reason to worry.

He led a life with many facets. He was never untrue to his nature. He maintained these many facets by keeping them separate from one another. He never allowed the people in his different circles to mix.

From the boy's perspective, he had many faces. But to any single friend or family member, he had only one face - the particular face that he chose to show them.


What It Means

Clever little parables are great and all, but what the fuck does it mean?

It means you're full of your own shit.

To put it simply, you don't have a personality. There's no such thing.

I know it feels like you do. You are the only person who has constant, unrestricted access to the goings-on of your own life, and your own mind. You personally experience every laugh, every fight, every party, every frustrating ordeal, every heartbreaking tragedy, every embarrassing failure that has ever occurred in your life.

And you also experience (internally) every private thought, every unexpressed desire, every snide remark you keep to yourself, and every bout of fear that has ever seized you and kept you still when you felt like you should have acted.

For the sake of simplicity, I will refer to this as your internal perception for the remainer of this article.

You have built your internal perception of your identity around that collective experience. But here's the catch: your internal perception is accessible only to you.

Your friends' and family's experience of you is far more limited. To them, your personality consists only of those things you have externalized in their presence.

So, "you're full of your own shit" is about right.

What does it mean for you?

  • "Personality" is an interpretation of your behaviour, filtered through the observer's emotional reaction to that behaviour. Each person's experience (and interpretation) of you might be different.

  • You potentially have as many "personalities" as there are people who know you - a different interpretation for each person.

  • To change your personality, all you have to do is change your behaviour.

The word "personality" is short-hand for "how I experience your company".

If you are making me laugh often, I think of you as a funny guy. If you always start complaining whenever we sit down to talk, I think of you as the depressing downer. If you're always hosting big awesome parties, I think of you as the outgoing guy with lots of social connections.

Incidentally, this is also why accusations that TRP promotes manipulation, insincerity, and disingenuousness are entirely baseless. Since no two people will necessarily have the same experience and opinion of you, does that suddenly invalidate both of their experiences? Whether those experiences were genuine or manufactured is a question unanswerable to the beholder. What they saw is what they got, and this is true for ALL interactions.

To think of all this in terms of another metaphor, imagine a hermit who lives by himself in a remote cave. No one knows he lives there, and he never makes contact with the outside world.

What is the hermit's personality?

The answer, of course, is moot. The concept of personality was developed as a social tool so that people could quickly describe one another. The concept has no meaning for a total recluse.


Internal Perception and Achieving Goals

Each man has limited power. He is but one man. Alone, he can only accomplish things that are within the scope of his abilities, his attention, and his time - all of which are finite.

But a man with many allies can potentially achieve the sum of all his allies' abilities, attentions, and time put together - provided he can inspire them to unify under his vision.

Alone you are weak. United with allies you are powerful. Nothing revolutionary here.

But this means that other people's perception of you is more important in achieving goals than your internal perception. You use other people's perceptions of you to inspire them to act for you, not your internal perception. Your internal perception is only accessible to you, and is therefore only useful in motivating you.

We realize, then, that internal perception is an unnecessary distraction.

At best, internal perception keeps you motivated and fighting for your goals. That's not strictly a bad thing, but you musn't depend upon your whimsical emotional state to achieve your goals. You should be accomplishing that with discipline.

At worst, internal perception hinders your progress by sowing self-doubt in your thoughts, paralyzing you, and turning you into a validation-seeking addict.


Common Pitfalls of the Internal Perception

Alpha-Versus-Beta

One sticking problem with newcomers to TRP is their obsession over the Alpha-Versus-Beta "dynamic". They become obsessed with trying to micromanage their internal perception so that they can maximize alphaness.

This becomes an issue when their inward gaze is out of synch with external reality. They begin acting in ways that are incongruous with the situation, resulting in awkwardness and social ostracism - which they could have avoided simply by being more present and aware of their environment.

Alpha and beta are behaviours, and behaviours are TOOLS, not catch-all solutions.

When we talk about controlled, calculated behaviours, we are talking about strategies for altering your image in the minds of other people. But all this depends on you having an accurate read of your environment in the first place. If you don't know your environment, how can you predict the outcome of your applied strategies?

Solution: We say this time and again: The Red Pill is a tool box. To be successful, you must first identify the job at hand, and THEN select the tool appropriate for accomplishing it. Don't look foolish by bringing a waffle iron into the garage, or bringing an air ratchet to breakfast. Know the job, and know the right tool for it.

Confirmation Addiction

When a newbie is first learning TRP, he is still trying to make sense of how theory relates to reality. He watches carefully for signs and signals that he is doing right (or wrong) - and when he sees confirmation of the things he is learning, he feels a sense of satisfaction.

For many unfortunate newbies, they become trapped in this phase for a long time.

Witnessing The Red Pill in action can be enrapturing, and it can stop you from taking further action. You end up stuck in a cycle of baiting reactions and watching them unfold - all the while making no REAL progress in developing as a man or achieving your goals.

And sometimes, an attempt at baiting an anticipated reaction backfires. Things don't play out like you imagined they would, and you are denied your vindicating fix of confirmation. Your worldview is shaken, and you immediately begin trying to repair the crack, as if the foundation of your life were built on it.

This is another way that internal perception inhibits you. You are searching for a new identity to replace the old one you are discarding. But you need to constantly confirm it by testing it, to make sure you're not being deceived again. An understandable response, but it's a treadmill - you're moving your legs, and you're not going anywhere.

You must stop using "learning" as a rationalization for your confirmation addiction, and you need to work towards your goals. If you haven't even decided on a goal yet, then your confirmation addiction might be why.

Solution: Focus on action, and trust that Red Pill theory will be just as right tomorrow as it is today. You can be confident that you are not being deceived because this time it is YOUR goals you are working towards. Approach the application of TRP theory like a scientist, and return to the theories which work best for the type of goal you want to achieve.

The Left-Field Compliment

Has anyone ever complimented you, and the compliment confused you? Perhaps it felt undeserved? Or maybe it never occurred to you that someone might admire you for that reason?

If you have experienced this, then it is a perfect example of someone else's perception of you disagreeeing with your internal perception.

Now, have you ever complimented someone for something, and they had a lukewarm response to your admiration? If you've never experienced this, then let me tell you - it doesn't feel good. Here's why:

People are constantly projecting. When a person expresses admiration for you, what they're really saying is "I'd like to be more like you".

How shitty is it to then tell them that their aspirations are not significant? Pretty fucking shitty.

Solution: Understand that a compliment is a window into a person's perception of you. That's a valuable piece of information, and you should never punish them for giving you such a gift.

Learn to accept compliments with grace. A simple thank you is sufficient. Then take what they have taught you and use it to gauge your reputation in your community, and figure how it can get you closer to your goals.

Furthermore, spend more time on taking action. Maintain only enough awareness of other people's opinions to help you avert social disaster. Otherwise, barrel forward, and let your actions and achievements speak volumes about the kind of man you are.


Bringing It All Together

Personality is a figment of our individual imaginations, given life and substance by our collective interactions. Personality is real, and it is also a fiction. It's important that we understand that, whether truth or fiction, the creation of a personality is prompted by action, and only action.

Therefore, actions are what matter most, since actions are the only things which have effects and consequences.

You are a prisoner of your own mind. You will never be free of the temptation to default to your internal perception, especially when you're stressed and exhausted.

Just remember that your internal perception is as much a truth, and as much a lie, as anything else.

Whenever you are in doubt, always err on the side of taking action.



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[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 134 points135 points  (30 children)

So, once the SJW retards decided that genetics has nothing to do with how you behave, unless you are gay of course, they had to find another mechanism to explain shitty behavior that makes it not their fault. This is personality. You have a set of attributes like some sort of Dungeons and Dragons character sheet. That's you. They are nigh immutable. So if you do something shitty, it's because of your sheet, not because you made a shitty choice.

The neat thing about this choice is THEY get to decide how you are scored. As a misogynistic, white, male shitlord, I'm doomed to be a patriarchal asshole bent on destroying civilization and brown people. See how well that works out?

Ok, so I know there are entire lines of thinking about determinism and whatnot. I'm not really concerned about that right now. I'm just pointing out how fucking retarded a large chunk of our population is and how they use their mental illness to wiggle out of any responsibility in this life.

This was a brilliant post. You could mine an entire book out of it.

[–]Rollo_Mayhem3 26 points27 points  (23 children)

The problem with your assumption is that there is something called personality that is not simply a social construct. Personality is rooted in biology. Also, something called temperament is also rooted in biology/genetics that can be seen from very early in life. However, I think what you saying is that some grossly distort some behaviors as part of personality to explain things but they are not truly personality related.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 14 points15 points  (22 children)

personality that is not simply a social construct.

No no. You're right. I was specifically addressing the mechanism used by certain people to absolve themselves of any responsibility.

[–]Cryxtalix 37 points38 points  (21 children)

Yes. Look up the subreddits for MBTI personality tests. People who wholeheartedly believe in the MBTI personality theory, and swear by it.

An example is the INTJ personality type, supposedly scientific and logical type, introverted, bad at social interactions, but smart.

Look at those people gobble that shit up. They create threads validating one another, and forgiving one another for "staying home all day after messing up my presentation last thrusday". Why? Because personality. Because that's how I am, and INTJ types aren't good at public speaking. "Too bad for my boss for rejecting my proposal, because I am actually the smartest guy in the room".

They refuse to work on their weaknesses because that's normal for their "type".

My internal default personality is best described as INTJ too. But the INTJ subreddit is a total shitshow, validation seeking and absolving themselves off any responsibility for their failures. Where people here, and I am proud to say me too, try our best to work to better ourselves, there are people out there who use their personality as an excuse for their shortcomings.

[–]IntrovertSigma 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Agree. I'm a hardcore INTJ but I've developed myself over the years and pushed myself out of my comfort zone many times.

I now have skills, experience and a lifestyle that compensate for my 'weaknesses' but my baseline personality is mostly unchanged.

In fact I've learned how to leverage INTJ weaknesses and turn them into strengths.

[–]Cryxtalix 8 points9 points  (1 child)

MBTI is actually rather fun to play with, it actually does tell you what your weaknesses and strengths are. You can more precisely work on your weaknesses WHILE cultivating your strengths. But the moment you excuse yourself for your shortcomings as something that is natural with your personality type, the entire point of MBTI is lost on you. It is most certainly lost on the entire INTJ subreddit.

There are no self help/improvement threads, but a ton of "If only people understood I am <insert weakness here>, and not expect that of me, it would be great." threads.

Good job on the self improvements too. I hope I can do the same.

[–]p3n1x 5 points6 points  (0 children)

But the change from "J" to "P" is TRP. Then you have a whole new monster.

"I" to "E" will be a side product. ENTP

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yes. Look up the subreddits for MBTI personality tests. People who wholeheartedly believe in the MBTI personality theory, and swear by it.

That's hilarious. Because my eldest was one of them. He had retarded t-shirts that said the exact sort of shit you are saying here. Fucking millennials.

Five years in the Navy cured him. He makes fun of it now. Too bad there isn't a Navy for 10 year olds. He might have gotten good grades.

(He pointed out that last bit himself.)

[–]Cryxtalix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A bootcamp really does do the trick. I spent some time in the police force and can say bootcamps are really something. Every naive thought you had about how the world works will be shouted down by the drill sergeant calling you a fucking pussy. No matter what personality you had and what excuses you came up with for yourself, you will still face the consequences if you reported to him at 4am in your wrinkly uniform. Hope your elder had a great time.

[–]FreeRadical5 5 points6 points  (2 children)

What doesn't make sense to me is why is there such an overabundance of INTJ's on the internet? The vast majority of the time MBTI is mentioned, it is someone proclaiming they are INTJ. Supposedly we're only 2% of the population!

[–]GeorgeKarlin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

MBTI is a tool, just like redpill.

Some people use MBTI to find excuses. "This is not my fault, I'm just like that" Some people use Redpill to find excuses. "Going monk mode for years, never trying relationships, always analysing the world trought Alpha/Beta lense. Blaming everything on female."

Some people use MBTI to understand themselves better and act on it. Some people use Redpill as a reminder that you have to own you life and take responsibility.

[–]Blazingtatsumaki 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I doubt you are an INTJ. Even my results say I'm one.But I doubt I'm one.INTJ s are extremely rare to come across.We just like to think we are INTJs.

[–]IntrovertSigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a healthy scepticism towards the idea of personality types and I'm very hesitant to place labels on myself, despite my username.

However I'm at a stage in my life where I've had many different experiences and experimented with many different ways of behaving.

Still I find myself gravitating towards a certain way of being that correlates with the INTJ type as well as a couple of other similar personality types from tests done in my corporate days.

I know it's not a hard science, but there's something to it.

And the reality is that the more I embrace how I 'naturally' am the more successful I become both professionally and in my personal life.

[–]Cryxtalix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No idea. Online tests aren't an accurate way to tell. I pretty much treat MBTI as a fandom kind of thing. People just believe this stuff even though every scientific study says MBTI is way overhyped.

Just like OP says there are multiple personalities a person has, INTJ is just one side of myself I display to a specific group of people. In front of others, I hide my introverted side pretty well I think. No one who isn't extremely close to me thinks I'm an introvert at all, much less INTJ.

[–]Blazingtatsumaki 0 points1 point  (3 children)

[–]Cryxtalix 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Well I still think I am INTJ. However I acknowledge it's weaknesses and I want to get out of it. I actually put in a lot of work to learn to be an outgoing person.

There was once someone who did the test for me told me that because I tested as INTJ, I can kiss social life good bye. I was pretty irritated and I remember setting out just to prove him wrong, by putting work in.

I have tested as INTJ, ENTP, ISFJ, INTP and pretty much everything, as long as I step out of my comfort zone. INTJ just means being a diehard rational person. However I can put up an act to become any other personality I want depending on situation. MBTI doesn't seem all that accurate.

I treat MBTI as a fandom kind of thing. There is no real proof from any scientific study that MBTI holds up to modern psychology.

[–]Blazingtatsumaki 2 points3 points  (0 children)

MBTI has low test-retest reliability.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I just took the test and I got ISTJ.

[–]Cryxtalix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good luck! But remember to take this with a grain of salt. MBTI personalities do change, and like OP said, everyone has multiple personalities to display to different people according to situation. No rigorous scientific study as actually backed up the MBTI thing.

People can change, and ISTJ just represents the version of you right now. Work on your weaknesses and cultivate your strengths to become a more well rounded person.

[–]LOST_TALE[🍰] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

One point of contingency is ''you can't treat someone based on the actions of ancestors''

the same way you can't treat wolves, because one wolf behaved like a wolf! We share 80% of the DNA (or whatever much it is)!

Yeah yeah... 1 gene can't make a big difference let alone whole different combinations. Trisomics are just different! No values! Nihilism. Except for punching nazis. That. That is the life.

So some part of the gene group parasits on the rest. But you can never catch one individual. ...except if.... except if you could identify them and hold one responsible for the actions of the other because they share the same predisposition, and treat them as a group. Now you've just internalized their avoidance of punishment.

Guess. Problem. Solved.

So Group B keeps sending suicide bombers. Can't go after them, their dead. So while you chant ''don't judge individuals at all is better than group based prejudice and open borders for communists and '''degenerates will help achieve liberty''', well, you lose, then you go extinct, and that's a good thing, but I am not you.

Meanwhile some other group blames the rest of the gorup the suicide bombers came out of, and oooo, damn. Guess they're GONE.

A group has whatever you think is degeneracy? Guess what. You start treating a genetic group as a group. And you get rid of it. Instead of playing wack-a-mole with individuals.

[–]ladeeedada 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What you're suggesting is eugenics. "The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father". Going after people who haven't even committed any crimes is a surefire way to make terrorists.

[–]Federkiel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think everything is determined, you can't decide to wake up, you can't generate thoughts at their beginning. Its Nice to know, but makes life not really easier.

But i know what you mean, we have to take responsibility for our actions, but only if it is determined that we have to. Otherwise we are humans and want to avoid.

Really Deep Posts here i like that.

[–]Rollo_Mayhem3 34 points35 points  (2 children)

"Personality is a figment of our individual imaginations"

Good points AND post!

Yet I would change the term personality to "persona." because I think what you are talking about is more like persona and NOT personality traits. Personality can be measured as a pattern of specific and enduring concrete behaviors and what you are talking about is more like how people see you and how you see yourself, which is a bit different.

[–]IntrovertSigma 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think you're right. I wrote a long reply which I could have avoided if the OP had used the word persona!

[–]Battaiga 24 points25 points  (15 children)

This is a very well constructed post, you have an excellent way of writing and explaining. I have noticed my internal perception for a conflict with the reality others offer me.

Could the same be said for conversation? I tend to believe myself boring when I have conversations, because my conversations often bore even myself, so I can't imagine how it is for my partner.

On the other hand, I'll try really hard to be interesting, engaging and witty but I feel as though I'm trying too hard and coming off as fake.

[–]Patriarchysaurus 46 points47 points  (14 children)

"You can win more friends in an afternoon by showing a genuine interest in other people; than you can in a lifetime by trying to get other people to be interested in you." a quote from "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie

[–]Battaiga 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I really like this quote and I hope it's the truth! I enjoy learning about others but I worry too much about the give and take of conversation. Hopefully showing a genuine interest and listening will be enough.

[–]Patriarchysaurus 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Social anxiety is tricky like that. There's a lot you can say by keeping eye contact during conversation and having a firm handshake; shows you're confident in yourself as well as the person you're talking to.

Just remember that confidence is as infectious as nervousness.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I love asking people about themselves and just getting to know people one on one. Regardless of attraction or whatever, if they have a open fun personality (and they don't seem like a narcissist) I am happy to listen and talk to them. (I've spent a long time living in a place where people refuse to acknowledge me because of race so now that I'm out of there I'm happy to be able to talk to anyone).

But people never ever ask about me. I always wonder what this indicates, if anything. It makes me assume I'm low value and then see other people who aren't as interested appear higher value because their attention isn't so cheap. When someone finally does ask about me I assume it's some sort of manipulation and shut it down or hesitate and say something self depreciating to indicate this is a negative tangent. My skills are in asking other people, not talking about myself.

Is a healthy conversation two people asking about each other? Or is it fine to be mostly one sided? People on here have always said "people just don't care and are only interested in talking about themselves" which I'm not sure is entirely true but instead that curiosity is just reserved for people who they're interested in. Any thoughts on this?

[–]Patriarchysaurus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To get people more interested in you, genuine interest in them is step 1. Step 2 is to show/provide your own value to them. To do that you have to observe yourself in the 3rd person and see the verbal transaction for what it truly is-- a transaction.

[–]electricspresident 2 points3 points  (7 children)

I wish this were a truth but I feel people only like it if someone of equal or higher smv is being curious and shittt. I say this cause I've been genuinely curious in other people sometimes the curiosity is reciprocated sometimes not. That's ok but if my goal is to build good friendships from my experience so far this strategy doesn't work unless ur on the 'inside'(*by way of looks, status, immense wealth, so on). What am I missing?

[–]Patriarchysaurus 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Find your people by finding yourself. Be the person you yourself would like to meet and watch how fast similar people find you attractive. Quit being a special snowflake of self-hate and DGAF if you get rejected. Walk it off like a man, work on it, and show less interest in people who never reciprocate.

[–]JeNeSaitQuoi -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I think one needs to be realistic here. At professional networking events, people are looking for others who can move their career forward. Keep that in mind when to you talk to someone.

[–]JeNeSaitQuoi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think you are correct. there is a balance to strike between being "genuinely" interested in a person at that networking event and not appearing desperate to meet people.

When I go out, I try to go events where there is a speaker or a program, maybe even a game of some sort so conversation can start with the evening activities. It helps..

[–]electricspresident 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but when you talk about balance you are still talking about a skill, communication is easy for most people in the sense: let's say I ask u an open ended question u talk about it but u dont ask one back and then I ask u another one to elaborate more on somethin u said and then u go further but after answering the 2nd question u still don't ask a question back then it means u r not reciprocating which is the general signal for the person being 'curious' to move on . This is the communication skill.

I'm talkin about status and communication which is something more important. I find it doesn't matter how good of a communicator u are and how good u make people feel thru communication ur value needs to be equal or higher to make a difference. There's that famous story about how a

It's like giving a dollar to a beggar and being called generous, it's nice to hear it but not somethin u take to heart. It's basically how women take a compliment when it comes from a loser and when it comes from a winner.

This issue I'm having right now is how to build this status. To become somethin from nothing. I have received some helpful solutions but nothing comcrete, when u don't close friends or a support group and don't have an edge factor like looks, talent and so on shit is really complicated and hard. Anyway I will figure it out someday.

[–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People absolutely love to talk about themselves / be accepted, even when they believe themselves to be introverted. Introverted is a BS mask in my opinion, everyone wants to "be seen". Some just want to be able to choose the "onlookers".

[–]1Entropy-7 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Personality as generally understood involves internal thought processes, tendencies (generally internal) and external behaviours. The vast majority of people will only see your external behaviour and then will infer your internal process. Those who know you well will know your tendencies, even if they differ from general behaviours. Only a very few people - a few family members, your BFF, maybe your LTR - are given the keys to the castle if you share your thought processes with them.

It's not that there is no such thing as personality, but contexts vary and different people and situations will bring out different "sides" of your personality. Relationships (in the broadest sense of the term) will therefore differ. Maybe it is just semantics, but "personality" remains fairly consistent but one will have a different "persona" among different social groups, although there will be certain consistencies among them.

"The Boy with many faces" is a bit of an extreme example. Most people have three social groups: friends, family, colleagues. Sometimes there are activity-based groups that don't cross over such as sports teams (or in my case I joined the army reserve), but you also get a lot of cross-over: I've partied with my sisters, colleagues (work or school) have become friends, friends have become colleagues (I started a business with two friends), etc.

It's almost impossible to have multiple "dark secrets" or even more conventional behaviors in pigeon holes or hermetically-sealed containers simultaneously with multiple social groups who never cross over.

Regarding the hermit, at the risk of playing with semantics, he still has a personality which manifest as thoughts, tendencies and behaviors but no need to present a persona.

"Internal perception" is vitally important because it is the source of motivation and the reasoning processes involved in formulating goals and plans to achieve them. Know thyself or you risk being a cork in the water or a dog chasing cars who won't know what to do when you finally catch one. However, it almost goes without saying that having your mind moving in circles without translating thoughts into actions like riding a stationary bike at top speed: going nowhere fast.

A primary aspect of Stoic philosophy is that: "Virtue consists in a will that is in agreement with Nature."

(Bertrand Russell, A History of Western Philosophy, original emphasis)

So there is a two step process that relies heavily on your internal perception: 1) understanding natural processess and "reality" and 2) formulating goals, desires and plans of action bound only by the limits imposed by reality itself.

Of course, the third step is to translate plans into action (behaviors).

Blue Pill is by definition a misperception of reality while getting Red Pilled is cluing into the way things actually work.

This is largely what the OP is saying in the Alpha-Beta portion.

The scientific method is not about confirmation but about falsification. The whole point of an experiment is to see if theory won't play out in practice. I agree with the OP that this is sort of stage one of the Red Pilling process.

However, the next stage is not about science but about engineering, which is defined as "the application of science and mathematics by which the properties of matter and the sources of energy in nature are made useful to people" or "to arrange for something to happen, especially in a useful and skillful way". The "science" is largely done given TRP's almost 5 year history and almost a quarter million members (plus several years of "red pill theory" at large before that).

I was a military engineer and learned how to build bridges, roads, fortifications, and to blow up the same. Given a particular task in a particular situation we had to come up with a plan and execute it. The thing is, we had pamphlets, charts, and proven algorithms to get the job done. Our sergeant major would say things like "trust the calculations" in that all the science had already been done for us and it fell on us to translate that into action and results.

Left-field criticisms are just as useful as long as you avoid the temptation of being baiting into a defensive posture.

OP wrote: "Maintain only enough awareness of other people's opinions to help you avert social disaster. Otherwise, barrel forward, and let your actions and achievements speak volumes about the kind of man you are."

Psychology Today had an article on social validation that talked about Michael Jordan:

No matter the field, if we look to progress, we have to depend on people to say we are not only capable, but the exact person to fulfill a need. To go a step further, we need gatekeepers to say this.

Hence, no matter how long we have studied, practiced or otherwise prepared, if we haven't received the proper social validation we may be just spinning our wheels. A great example of this can be found in the recounting of events by Michael Jordan. In his 2009 acceptance speech, for induction into the (Naismith Memorial) Hall of Fame, Jordan relayed that as a freshman at UNC, his coach Dean Smith was featured in Sports Illustrated. In the interview, Smith listed only four starters on the team and neglected to mention him. Jordan was livid and said that this fueled his desire to demonstrate to Smith and others how great a player he was. Jordan also stated that this need for acknowledgement (read validation) fueled him throughout his college and NBA years. Michael Jordan knew he was a great player, but he also knew the benefits of being recognized as a great player. He wanted and needed both.

In the final analysis, sometimes we have done enough; we are more than ready and need no further skills to make it to the next level. We just need to make sure the right people know this and that they signal to others that it's safe to jump on the bandwagon. That signal may be all that's needed to make things happen!

[–]always-distracted 13 points14 points  (0 children)

So much shit clicked at "The Left-Field Compliment". I mean, the whole thing is a great post, but goddamn. Good shit, man, keep it up.

[–]blackedoutfast 5 points6 points  (7 children)

yes it is very true that your external personality is all that is visible to other people, and how they relate to you and interact with you will be based on their external perception of you. this is really the essence of frame control - you are controlling how they perceive your external personality.

HOWEVER, your internal personality does matter because it will affect your ability to control your external personality. its significantly easier and more effective when your internal mindset is congruent with your external personality.

a guy who is really a huge beta on the inside can pretend to be Chad, but it's stressful and he will screw up a lot. it's much more effective to convince everyone else that you're an alpha when your internal personality is alpha too. you don't have to constantly deal with emulating an alpha personality or wearing a metaphorical Chad mask, when it's truly internalized you can stop thinking and just be. get into zone, flow state, all that stuff.

[–]InfiniteMuscle 2 points3 points  (5 children)

This. Couldnt have said it better myselr. Although i understand OP's point, you still have to believe you are the shit FIRST before anyone else does.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet[S] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

you still have to believe you are the shit FIRST before anyone else does.

I agree.

There's no faster way to build confidence than by winning.

And the fastest way to do this is to take action - which is the main thesis of the post.

[–]PowerVitamin[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have experienced a lot of the stuff you wrote about in this post. Especially the left-hand compliment and many other perception anomalies between myself and others. I think that's what your post comes down to. Perception.

But, to take action wasn't coherently developed in your essay. It was just kind of ad hoc thrown in at the end.

This should have been developed as 3 separate essays.

[–]IncelWhale 0 points1 point  (1 child)

READ THE WHOLE TEXT(you can avoid reading links of course)OR AT LEAST READ THE CONCLUSION.WHAT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU IS VERY INTERESTING. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2816415/Is-square-jaw-turnoff-Researchers-women-live-country-prefer-effeminate-men-softer-feminine-features-city-dwellers-prefer-masculine-looks.html In this article is written that a new study found that women living in rural areas prefer more feminine faces in men rather than the masculine ones that are considered more attractive in the urban zones. This is the study they're talking about: http://www.pnas.org/content/111/40/14388.full Among the criteria it was taken in consideration as a influence factor the homicide rate. In urban areas the homicide rate is higher than rural areas. BUT one criterion that wasn't taken into account is the fact that IPV(intimate partner violence,or domestic violence against women)is much higher in rural areas than in urban areas,because in rural areas the mentality is less modern and they're much more likely to maintain patriarcal values. Sources about higher IPV against women in rural areas: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4199982/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3216064/ https://www.ruralhealthinfo.org/topics/violence-and-abuse "A 2011 study published in the Journal of Women's Health found that 22.5% of women in small rural areas and 17.9% in isolated areas reported being victims of intimate partner violence, compared to a national average of 16.1%. " Always according to the PNAS research in all nations taken under study women (both from rural areas and urban areas)found masculine traits in men as a sign of a more aggressive attitutde,while less masculine traits were associated with docility and harmlessness. As soon as i read that an hypothesis jumped in my mind: women in rural areas like men with feminine traits because of a socio-cultural adaptation:since the rate of domestic violence against women in rural areas is high they're attracted to men whose facial traits don't stand for an aggressive attitude but for docility and kindness.Instead women from urban areas are attracted to masculine men because life in urban areas is much more stressful(testosterone helps dealing with stress) than those in rural areas and also a lot more unsafe because even if violence against women is low, the homicide rate and criminality in general is higher.

Then i found this study that confirmed my hypothesis: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4363956/Does-view-violence-affect-DATE.html https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/news/archive/2017/title,1194670,en.php This study conducted in the area of Bogota(the capital of Colombia,a nation with one of the highest levels of criminality but mostly VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN)shows that those women like men with more feminine traits because they associate men with masculine traits to a possible violent attitude that can make their life and those of their children at risk.

I think this is very shocking because not only he breaks one of the principle of the redpill and evolutionary biology(men with masculine traits have always been the most attractive),but it mostly debunk the feminist myth that male beauty stereotypes can be debunked by destroying the idea of the alpha male(a patriarcal concept)and showing men with more feminine faces,while it's totally the contrary.

This is very shocking i think,this studies are revolutionary , they really prove that feminist bullshit about beauty standards is really bullshit and that women situation's improvement won't improve men's situtation,but it will worsen it. *Homicide rate is higher in urban areas On the other hand, the homicide death rate decreased as counties became more rural (RR 0.44; 95% CI 0.37 to 0.53) (Table 2). ]). For homicide, a trend of decreased homicide death in more rural areas was observed and was significant in full year adjusted models for all age subgroups except for older adults (≥65 years) (RRs [mruc9 counties compared with mruc0 counties]: 0 to 14 years [0.50, 0.32 to 0.79], 15 to 19 years [0.28, 0.19 to 0.42], 20 to 44 years [0.46, 0.37 to 0.57], and 45 to 64 years [0.55, 0.44 to 0.68]).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3993997/

[–]1empatheticapathetic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Add a TLDR because I'm not sure what your real conclusion even is.

[–]Scymnus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then how do you suggest guys develop their "inner alpha"? Channel it?

Until someone can come up with some specific actions you can take that works better than going out in the world and failing I say fuck it, fake it till you make it.

[–]MurphyRise 5 points6 points  (18 children)

But what about personality descriptors such as the big five. Wouldn't the existence such solid personality research mean that personality is more than external behavior?

[–]WhySoRuff 5 points6 points  (17 children)

You are thinking of dispositions toward certain behavior, that's what the Big 5 are all about. Let's say you are low in agreeableness, which means you're not afraid of conflict so you disagree with certain guy friends and most girls which will probably earn you respect from the guys and possibly some pussy from the girls. But one or two disagreements/arguments with your boss might cause him to think you don't respect his authority or you are not a team player; and that could get you fired. So you tame that part of your personality around him and therefore he perceives you differently than your friend Peter or your plate Diana. TRP refers to this as calibration. You calibrate your interaction according to the situation you are in to bring about the best results.

No dispositions to behavior are your fate, self awareness and discipline can change how you interact with people, which can change how they perceive you....

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (16 children)

So you tame that part of your personality around him and therefore he perceives you differently than your friend Peter or your plate Diana. TRP refers to this as calibration. You calibrate your interaction according to the situation you are in to bring about the best results.

Perhaps I've drawn the wrong conclusions, but this sounds dishonest. Consciously attempting to change my behavior to gain your approval seems a surefire way to create disintegration in myself.

On the other hand, I can understand that adaptation can be vital to achieving success; however you wish to define it. What are your thoughts?

[–]WhySoRuff 1 point2 points  (11 children)

The reason men come to TRP is because their current behavior has not been causing favorable results and they want to see how they can change that behavior to bring better results. If this isn't the reason why you are here, what is?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (10 children)

If this isn't the reason why you are here, what is?

I'm not looking to indoctrinate myself, I'm looking for a discussion.

[–]WhySoRuff 0 points1 point  (8 children)

If indoctrination was the goal we sure have a shitty business plan cuz all we talk about are bitter truths and difficult solutions. What I said above works, take it or leave it.

Perhaps I've drawn the wrong conclusions, but this sounds dishonest. Consciously attempting to change my behavior to gain your approval seems a surefire way to create disintegration in myself.

Your comment above tells me you are probably young and definitely idealistic on how life should be, but it is just that: an ideology that is far from the truth. It's up to you to figure out which tools provided by TRP you can reconcile with your values and decide if you are willing to wield that tool to your advantage.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Yes, I must be idealistic because I want to tell the truth and act honestly.

[–]WhySoRuff 0 points1 point  (5 children)

The fact you want to tell the truth and act honestly is a good thing. But you are idealistic in thinking the rest of the world also acts the same way.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I've never said that I think that the rest of the world will always act honestly and speak the truth. There are malevolent, irresponsible people in the world that will absolutely be dishonest to achieve their goals. I cannot change this, as it is out of my control; however, I believe that by speaking my truth and staying honest, I am making the world a better place.

[–]WhySoRuff 0 points1 point  (3 children)

"Be the change you want to see in the world" is a bullshit platitude.

You need to be successful to be influential and "make the world a better place"

Good luck man.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's called the game, and we all have to play it.

Your boss is a specific situation where you have to put aside your preferences for the longer term benefits of being employed, if you think your current boss will not appreciate your concerns/criticism.

Anyone else? You don't owe them shit and you should be yourself wholeheartedly...But again, you have to have some social intelligence. If you're a hardcore nazi, you will be aware that going around talking about your beliefs will remove you from the majority of social circles. You don't have to change your beliefs or behaviour, but it is advantageous to keep them to yourself if they will not help you further your wider goals (social or otherwise). If they are too important to you to keep hidden away, that's your prerogative. Rule 34 (or whatever the fuck it is) think as you like but behave like others. That's basically game.

Ftr I'm not a nazi.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You are not to your brother as you are to another.

A+

[–]alvlear 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are misconstruing the concept of persona with personality. These are technical terms in the discipline of psychology. Personality is real and has been empirically verified, with five-factor theory being the most potent avenue [1].

The problems you outline are solved by striving to speak the truth and to be authentic always, even when one's psychic compulsions are dark.

Thank you for your contribution.

[1] McCrae, Robert R., and Paul T. Costa Jr. "A five-factor theory of personality." Handbook of personality: Theory and research 2 (1999): 139-153.

[–]Bear-With-Bit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People are constantly projecting. When a person expresses admiration for you, what they're really saying is "I'd like to be more like you".

Conversely, when people are giving you advice, whether it's solicited or not, what they're really saying is, "I'd like you to be more like me." This is especially true when you are improving your smv and your friends/family are giving you shit for going to the gym often, becoming a meathead, etc.

[–]TheRationalMale.comRollo-Tomassi 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Compensation:

https://therationalmale.com/2011/10/11/compensation/

I’ve also been fielding a lot of questions regarding issues we kind of take for granted after having discussed them to death in the manosphere; one of those being the nature of personality and one’s ability to change their own or have it changed by circumstance, or often both. I think it’s a tragic miscalculation on our part to think of personality as static, unchangeable or to question the ingenuousness of that change, but more tragic is the doubting ourselves for that change.

One simple truism that a lot of people love to use as their convenient escape clause is the JBY (just be yourself) notion. This of course is just what ones says as advice when they really don’t know what else to say. Given that though, what is it that makes a personality shift ‘genuine’. Any number of us probably know an individual who began acting differently at some point in their life. This can be the result of some kind of tragedy or trauma (think PTSD) or it can be that the individual felt a need to change their fundamental way of thinking and made the change of their own accord. Usually in these cases we think of them as posers or try-hards, trying to be something they’re not. They reflect this change in their appearance, their regular practices, their friends or the people they associate with, attitudes, behaviors etc. And this is what’s jarring for people who knew their prior personality.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like how you also address people's need to protect their own egos when they see change in another person that conflicts with their agenda. Great article, Rollo.

Newbies are all too eager to shift blame. What's more - they often rationalize their blame shifting into something positive so their ego need not confront it.

They disguise their fear of weakness and inadequacy (in the face of another person's improvement) as concern for that person.

They disguise their laziness or fear of change as an immutable aspect of their personality.

If a man's goal is to gain control and power over his life and circumstances, he must always err on the side of claiming more responsibility, not less.

[–]IntrovertSigma 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Edit: not sure if this comment is relevant if the OP is talking about persona rather than personality. I'll leave it up in any case.

I'm 100% behind you when it comes to the importance of taking action and not limiting yourself with a story that you or other people created about yourself.

However in my personal experience I've found that I have a baseline set of behaviours that I revert to and feel most comfortable with.

For context I should explain that I've first learned about game in 2000 (alt.seduction.fast). Between long term relationships I have done thousands of cold approaches, I stopped keeping track of my notch count years ago, I've done things most men only dream of.

I stretched myself personally and professionally in many ways. I regularly get up in front of hundreds of people for work and my hobbies.

But my default preference is still to spend time on my own to recharge between social activities. I'm still much more productive working on my own than in teams.

Frankly since I accepted certain things about my personality I became much more successful in every aspect of life. And where I have 'deficiencies', ways of acting that are not conducive to the life I want, I've learned to compensate for those by designing my lifestyle in a certain way.

But I understand that 99% of people are bullshitting themselves. They've never tested their limits or stretched themselves. They've settled on a story without taking action. They call themselves an introvert but they've never spent years working on their social skills to uncover if that's really the case.

If however you can honestly say you've explored many ways of living (which took years in my case) then I think it's OK to accept your baseline as long as you then use your experience to compensate for any 'deficiencies' or 'weaknesses' that are preventing you from living the life you want.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Any advice on pushing yourself out of your previous mindset (which I'm aware is a question of deflecting responsibility). Just stuck in a bit of a rut currently.

[–]IntrovertSigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do new things. Experiment at every level of life and put in a proper effort. Don't do things once, try it 50 times before you evaluate the results.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would argue that personality is your internal self, not how people perceive you externally. To a degree your experiences shape your personality as well as your habits and your genetics.

You are talking about behaviour, persona.

"Lifes a stage and we are all actors."

[–]1OneRedSock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This post is very timely, as I was seeing a lot of JBY (just be yourself) mentality popping up in comments and actually receiving upvotes from, what I can only presume, are confused new RPers that have some vestigial BP tendencies they can't seem to shake or Purple Pillers.

The JBY mentality is directly based on one's belief in their self-prescribed personality, as well as their need to ego-protect. JBY mentality is a fallacy that ultimately protects the feminine imperative, as it services several key factors for women: (1) in the short-term, men will self-report and automatically remove themselves from possible selection by the woman, maintaining the monopoly women have on sexual selection; (2) in the long-term, it serves women by defending any and all of her changes based on a whim as characteristics of her "Just Beying herself"; if a woman stipulates that she has loved you because you were JBY, she has huge latitude later in the relationship and can define everything as JBY for her own benefit. Becoming overweight, reducing the occasions of sexual intercourse, etc. can all fall under the purview of her just being herself. It's the perfect kind of nebulous definition women love, since it can be used to defend literally anything. Why do BP men buy into it? Simple: we all like to hear how awesome we are.

Ironically, the JBY mentality is turned on its head when the woman inevitably turns her mate from the JBY guy to the "He's a work in progress" guy.

Most of this is just a rehash of Rollo Tomassi, so if you're reading this and not seeing this as familiar information, you have not done your reading of the sidebar content. And if you don't see the problem with the JBY mentality, then you have not come to terms yet with your own ego.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

personality is cope it's all about FACE HEIGHT and FRAME

[–]1empatheticapathetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personality is part of your frame and vice versa.

[–]JaspersChest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome post man, I really enjoyed the new insights!

[–]throw_UPP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post helped so many things click for me. The confirmation addiction has been a huge problem I never really understood until you explained it. Thanks.

Also something that has helped me immensely with the personality issue is a quote from Mark Manson's "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck"

  • "People who are terrified of what others think about them are actually terrified of all the negative things they think about themselves being reflected back at them "

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personality = Personal Reality

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good post. It's basically Self-Awareness 101. Millennial (me included) need to get this.

[–]LightBearCares 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll take it a step further and say this: Truths are subjective in their own nature. Just as personalities can change, truths decay as well. Some truths last for a lifetime, while others stay with us for a day or so. Personalities can never be pinpointed down. "I'm am ambitious, colorful artist." Won't last forever, and will be replaced just as truths come and go.

[–]Rodion-Raskolnikov 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First rate post. This type of content is what keeps me coming back here. This is sidebar worthy.

[–]Shaman6624 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you give an example of someone "micromanaging their internal perception to maximize their alphaness".

Or maybe two if you want to. one of someone who fails at it and another one who succeeds. And what are actionable steps to implement this piece of theory you presented here? I can't really associate with what you have presented here. I think my 'personality' is already integrated and I'm the same person everywhere. And I don't see what it has to do with maximizing your succes in the sexual marketplace except maybe to become more congruent? Or.. Do you mean people Sabotage themselves by holding on to arbitrary personality traits?

[–]SirByron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every human being has the same personality at the core and it is OPPORTUNISM.

[–]throw_UPP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post helped so many things click for me. The confirmation addiction has been a huge problem I never really understood until you explained it. Thanks. Also something that has helped me immensely with the personality issue is a quote from Mark Manson's "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck"

  • "People who are terrified of what others think about them are actually terrified of all the negative things they think about themselves being reflected back at them "

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of the best posts I've read in a long time, brilliant, just brilliant. Tips fedora

[–]DesignerAccount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great post, as usual. Only one comment, change your tip Jar to a SegWit address ;-)

[–]Krebota 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I don't think you're right. Everyone has a personality, but many people put on different faces for different situations. Still, after some time they always fall back to one face: their personality. Let me explain why I'm saying this.

I'm an autistic 17 year old boy. I live at a sort of boarding school (not as punishment, it's hard to explain. My parents are sailors that's why I go there) which forced me to be social all the time. Because of my autism I was bad at socialising and I learned a lot from this. There's just one thing I can never learn: putting on different faces. I can make minor changes to my behaviour, but technically I'm always 'me'. For example, I lost my phone a month ago. The way I lost it was really dumb and everyone said: 'this is clearly you, I'm not surprised.' I'm very unhandy and there's no way I can hide it. Personality. I have only one face, and that's my own.

Looking at others, I see what you mean with faces. But give it time and everyone loses their fake face, maybe even frame, and you see how they really are. Some are just better at hiding it than others. Some can keep it for years. The lucky ones never lose it and basically have no personality as you said.

Personality is the kind of behaviour that's the easiest for yourself. I can shift my personality but I can't completely hide it, others can. It's not a barricade to other 'personalities', it's elastic and keeps pulling you. Depending on how strong you are you can overcome it.

I hope you guys can see what I'm trying to say, I'm not good at explaining things like this.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm an autistic 17 year old boy.

Then perhaps you might not be the best judge of how people are put together and why they behave like they do.

Yet.

everyone said: 'this is clearly you, I'm not surprised.' I'm very unhandy and there's no way I can hide it. Personality. I have only one face, and that's my own.

The message here is that we are what we repeatedly do.

The word "personality" is used to mean "inherent nature which causes us to behave how we do". But we can't see that inherent nature. We only infer it from that behaviour. And no one can prove that it is any sort of inherent nature that makes behaviour consistent over time.

You, for instance, are physically capable of talking and acting in any way you choose. The laws of physics work just as well for you as for me. There is nothing to prevent you from spending tomorrow pretending to be Nikola Tesla, or James Brown, or an exiled African prince who has vowed to walk backwards everywhere until Luxembourg wins the World Cup.

The only reason you can't behave any way you want isn't some nebulous "nature" of your "soul". It's simply that you don't know how.

When we are confronted with something we can't do, we can either say "It is not in my nature", and be stuck unable to do it forever, or say "I do not know how to do this", and proceed to learn.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand what you are saying.

Yes, it happens frequently that we settle into a pattern of behaviour - one that comes easily to us.

Yes, as a result, we often show the same side of ourselves to several people, all of whom might have contact with one another. If that happens, then they all have similar (if not the same) experience of our company.

And yes, when that happens, we often conclude that the consensus that other people have formed about us is our "personality".

But all of that is still happening within the minds of others. You always have the power to change other people's perceptions simply by changing what you show them.

My friend /u/Whisper has a very pithy saying:

Reality is defined as that which does not go away when you stop believing in it.

Well, your personality is one of those things that can vanish if you stop believing it.

Here's a thought-exercise for you:

Imagine that you are a coward. You shy away from challenges or dangerous situations out of fear of injury or death. Furthermore, you have often shied away from dangerous situations in front of friends. Maybe your friends invited you to go bungee jumping, and you declined, saying that you were too scared. So your friends also believe that you are a coward. As far as both you AND your social circle is concerned, your personality is that of a coward.

But then one day, you say "fuck it, I'm sick of this" and decide to go skydiving. And in the aftermath of that first skydive, you discover a new courage, and a love for thrill-seeking.

Suddenly you're taking on new adrenaline-surging hobbies left and right - whitewater rafting, wingsuiting, base jumping, etc. Word about your newfound courage spreads among your friends, and now they believe that you have undergone a "transformation". Suddenly you're the reformed coward turned daredevil.

And all it took for you to change your "personality" was to behave differently.

Now some people might argue that your personality has simply changed. But to me that's just semantics. You cannot hook your personality up to a multimeter, or an oscilloscope, or a mass spectrometer, and objectively measure it. Your personality is a matter of perception, and perceptions can change.

This is why I think the whole notion of a fixed personality/persona/whatever-word-you-want-to-use is bullshit.

Actions matters above all else. As you act, so shall you be.

[–]pumear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is some high level psychological shit

[–]pumear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really disagree with this however. I think personality is something that is cultivated. That's what the whole magician archetype is about isn't it? Actually the story goes something just like this *tm

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Señor JBP says the big 5 are mostly fixed... I trust him more than you when it comes to psychology.