Red Pill TheoryWomen are looking for a "real man", but in fact, most, if not all, are just looking for a daddy. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 1ozaku7

Which is where daddy issues come in. I alone cannot vouch for the fact that from what I have observed, women that want a real man and describe him, actually are yearning for a daddy that is taking care of them.

They want a man that is handy and can fix everything. They want a man that listens to them and remembers everything they have told him. As a little girl, you are looking up to the grown up man in front of you who has everything straight in life according to her little Disney fantasy world and daddy does anything to please his little girl. He buys her stuff, he takes her on trips, he plays with her and he's basically there for her. But he's also there to call her out on her bullshit, but still provides her with the unconditional love of a parent. He is her rock, where she can always lean on when she has to cry because Bullshit A or Cowmanure B happened to her and daddy can make her feel all better. When she can't manage something or has stress and feels like shit, go to daddy for the good feelings. Daddy is the place where no bad stuff happens, and daddy can carry the weight of the bullshit she accumulates and passes on to him. It's the worst when all this is taken for granted without any token of appreciation required from the asshole that dumps the shit on her rock which simply accepts it because, daddy's little girl.

Which is where daddy issues from my opinion stem from, and why women who had a shitty dad that did everything for their little girl have only raised a brat that expects the same from her boyfriend/husband. If you lack anything that her dad has done for her, inexcusably you will get shit for it, while at the same time you are required to deal with the shit in the same way like her daddy did, meaning carrying the stress that she is experiencing on top of your own stress in your own personal life. Which is why there are cases when women simply dare to dump a man that has lost his mom or dad and is in the deep well of sadness for the coming weeks.

When little girl has a punctured tire on the way home, she doesn't take out the spare wheel and change it herself, which even I could do at the age of 10. No, twisting a bar, loosening and tightening 5 bolts and carrying a wheel is too much asked from a woman. Better call daddy to drive over 30 miles to do the crap that she is capable of doing. Daddy comes anyway, because little girl is helpless, which is all his own fault. Because we are raised in a society where little boys are raised with the tougher hand than girls, because boys should walk it off and girls should be treated like princesses.

Beware of the daddy that does anything for his daughter. A good giveaway is to ask on dates how her father is, talk about their memories, what she has done for her, and disguise it under the cloak that you would like to know what her dad is like, and then just ask some bullshit questions about her mother. Because the most spoiled brats out there are the ones where e.g. daddy changes checks their oil, changes their summer tyres for wintertyres, and for them is was all magic and taken so for granted, not even the words "Thank you, dad!" could ever come out of their mouth to repay the hard work that a man has done for them.

These women are a lost case, and they have this lifestyle engraved into their minds since the days they were born and only engraved it deeper throughout puberty. You will never ever satisfy a woman like this, and it's better to go ahead and look for a woman that respected her father. One which is not afraid to make his daughter cry and send to her room to deal with her own shit for everything that's her own fault from which she is supposed to learn to deal with.

[–]1rporion 252 points253 points  (12 children)

Yeah, well, a lot men yearn for a father figure that takes care of them too.

Usually in a less personal way, but, embedded in a lot of political philosophies is exactly this.

It is almost as if a society were most people have decent fathers avoids a lot of problems and heartache downstream.

[–]Endorsed Contributorsadomasochrist 31 points32 points  (4 children)

I posit that Jordan Peterson's recent success is a symptom of a widespread lack of father figures in the lives of men (and women). The problem resolves itself differently though.

Women without strong father figures drift looking for one and men the same. But the way we "drift" is different, though both are destructive.

But suffice to say, it's starting to show on a systemic level.

[–]duruga 34 points35 points  (1 child)

TRP is also in a weird way a father figure.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You're right. He is the role model that all men want. People see him as a father figure.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hey man, do you have the video to this?

[–]spellignerror 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Fatherhood is civilization. Feminists are trying to destroy the patriarchy, they're only half done and they miss it already.

[–]1ozaku7[S] 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Humanity itself always yearns for something higher to deal with the shit they are facing and keeping them in a comfortable place. Hence why the concept of god and religion came to be to explain what happened and how it could be prevented by pleasing the gods and offering sacrifices, which was later used to control the communities through the concepts of heaven and hell. Each their own theory.

In the end, when you're helpless you rather rely on something or someone else instead of dealing with the problem yourself. Having someone deal with the problem is much easier than being taught how to deal with said problem, or how to help yourself when you are in deep shit. It's when people learn that other people can do it for them, they actually stop dealing with it. Que women with the best daddies in the world that did everything for them and learned that if they don't get it by default, they just have to show off their assets to get what they want from the same weak men that raised them.

Then it's society that wonders why women are treated as sex objects, because not only the women themselves, but also their daddies have degraded them to being the piece of flesh. Instead of blaming how women have been raised, it's the bad men, which again deters responsibility of the modern woman to the modern man. Because women are raised to believe that the man should bear the responsibilities and consequences that the woman has and causes. Daddy daddy, this consequence and responsibility I have to deal with are too heavy for me, carry them for me!!!

Que comic with a man carrying 20 shoeboxes in a shopping mall like a mule and the woman just picking more shoes, and "consequences and responsibility" written all over the boxes that he is carrying.

[–]1rporion 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Yes, but, even if we were a society were all people were self actualized demi-gods, there would still be some sort of uncertainty that cannot be removed from human existence.

Ironically, the safer our world gets, the less we can bear it.

An inbuilt human weakness, I suppose, that calls for an answer.

Not even a good answer, just an answer.

[–]1ozaku7[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As I said, humanity always yearns for something higher to deal with the shit it is facing.

Back when we were monkeys, it was yearning for someone that opens our bananas. With kids, it's someone to close the zipper on their jacket or tie their shoes. Not because they couldn't do it or tried to do it themselves, but simply because someone else did it for them and that took less effort.

So even demi-gods would rather have a higher god to destroy a continent, simply because they can do it, but asking another one to do it takes less effort. Nature always takes the path of least resistance, and we are a part of that.

[–]saargrin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is there a society where decent fathers are a norm?
Certainly not that I can think of

[–]Bing400 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. Just the idea of God..

[–]rolfskar -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

My guess is that OP is watching to mutch GoT.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 82 points83 points  (8 children)

Every woman will test your boundaries to some degree or another. Daddy's girls are just the extreme end of the spectrum.

The solution is the same no matter where she falls on the spectrum: discipline her. You are responsible for enforcing the rules and boundaries. And you enforce the rules not with threats, or with anger, or with ultimatums - you enforce by withdrawing your attention.

[–]3whatsthisgarg 25 points26 points  (0 children)

You are responsible for enforcing the rules and boundaries. And you enforce the rules not with threats, or with anger, or with ultimatums - you enforce by withdrawing your attention.

It really is that simple.

I've been saying this on TRP over and over - just last week I felt compelled to make yet another post about it. Nobody seems to get how fucking simple it is.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Simple really.

Woman + validation = satisfied.

Woman - validation = unsatisfied.


[–]aanarchist 7 points8 points  (1 child)

it's important not to treat her like your actual daughter, because she's not and you didn't teach her for the primary formative years of her life. she is responsible for herself, where as you are responsible for your actual child. honestly the attention cat and mouse game just gets old fast, most women make me eye roll at them inside of a few weeks like i value my time too much to waste it teaching them the fundamental basics of human interaction. it's like literally raising a daughter, you're raising her for someone else to fuck her and benefit from the education you gave her.

[–]1Tommy_407 5 points6 points  (0 children)


"Treat her like shit" seems like a pretty fool-proof platitude these days.

Treat her like shit fellas, and ya can't go wrong=]

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This, OP is squealing like a stuck pig because he is not the sort of man that women respect. Forget the buying stuff, I am talking about a man who enforces boundaries, holds frame, makes her feel safe and happy. OP is whining like a little girl because little girls smash his frame, see him as weak and dump him.

[–]1YouLoveThisBTW 38 points39 points  (3 children)

I understand and agree with OP, but I don't think what he's talking about are "daddy issues" as the term is usually used. Does the problem he described exist? Yes, it's ubiquitous. But daddy problems as the term is usually used are issues stemming from abuse, abandonment, lack of love and support etc. These manifest into negative behaviors like promiscuity, clingyness, excessive jealousy, alcohol and drug abuse, and my personal favorite: relationship sabotage.

Relationship sabotage stems from her learned belief that a) she's not worthy of a loving and healthy relationship and b) no man is capable of providing her with consistent love and support and c) men are in her life to use her and abandon her. As a result of these DEEPLY held beliefs, she will sabotage any worthwhile relationship through cheating, excessive drinking or drug use, starting the most absurd fights, etc as a means to push you away, punish you ahead of time for your abandonment, and to prove her beliefs right.

These are "daddy issues" as the term is used in our culture. The first time you see this type of behavior, ask about their dad, and RUN if they do so much as hint that he was abusive, distant, non existent etc.

These women will also be the best sex of your life. Dirty, dirty sexy where she will do anything to get you addicted. Don't stick your dick in crazy.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Thanks for this concise comment.
All this is so true. When you know nothing about it and engage in relationships with this kind of girls, it could be really dangerous and traumatic.
When you start learning about the matter so much trouble could be avoided.

These women will also be the best sex of your life. Dirty, dirty sexy where she will do anything to get you addicted. Don't stick your dick in crazy.


[–]Maccabaei 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like Borderline Personality to me. Good insight!

[–]NeoreactionSafe 55 points56 points  (65 children)


The "Whore of Babylon" metaphor represents the "spoiled girl".

Yes, the OP is correct.

The "spoiled girl" is a failure to teach the child the correct roles of father and daughter.

We live in an age of the "spoiled girl".

Very few women these days actually develop into full feminine human beings but instead have "Stunted Growth" as spoiled children.

The Blue Pill mythology glorifies this failure too.

It's all very tragic and unnecessary.


[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (24 children)

No the OP is not correct, even a daddy's girl will fuck a real man and fall completely for him and surrender herself. All women are the same, an alpha man gives them tingles and makes them feel safe. Her emotions break on the rock of his frame. It is a red pill truth that the best way to act with a woman is like her father, they are all children. So OP is just here to victim puke and whine like a bitch because he cannot cut it and women dump him. So he wants to blame them instead of himself. This in itself is pathetic enough. What is more pathetic is that so few people have read between the lines here and they have upvoted this post.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (22 children)


You are contradicting what is well established Red Pill understanding.

When a spoiled girl rides the Cock Carousel™ she never recovers.

We even have a saying:


"You can't turn a whore into a housewife."


If the girl is spoiled rotten it doesn't matter who you are her character will never recover.

High N count is always going to mean a broken woman who cannot form a good connection with a man.

The virgin is "unspoiled" which is why she is always the ideal.

Once a girl gets spoiled it's like "Taming the Shrew"... possible, but unlikely.


[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (21 children)

A girl with a doting father does not qualify as a whore. Are you actually suggesting that a girl with a good father will ride more cocks than a girl raised by a single mum? No I am not contradicting any red pill understanding, you are conflating your idiotic, messianic bullshit ideas about the bible and Shakespear with sexual strategy and the modern sexual marketplace. Just think on that for a bit

[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (20 children)


My understanding was that we are talking about American women.

There are few to zero virgins these days and most have no fathers.

So we seem to be describing different scenarios.

The last girl raised in a sheltered home was in 1940.


[–]Endorsed ContributorJamesSkepp 3 points4 points  (19 children)

The last girl raised in a sheltered home was in 1940.

The only true woman - a virgin from a sheltered home that has no access to any men besides you. Truly you're an example apex alpha that fears no competition.

even a daddy's girl will fuck a real man and fall completely for him and surrender herself. All women are the same, an alpha man gives them tingles and makes them feel safe. Her emotions break on the rock of his frame.

/u/88Will88 is right. There are no good girls. Having a RP father doesn't make her immune to alphas and high ncount.

He's also right about OP describing what women want from the author, describing a man women want to use for their own needs, not for sex. It's hard to tell if he's projecting or just describing from 3rd point of view, but that's largely irrelevant.

What is relevant is that OP, as 88Will88 pointed out, shifts the blame to women for not enforcing his boundaries. Say you get a call from some girl you know "come fix my tire". Is she spoiled for demanding or you a pussy for obliging? If you're not going to oblige - then there's no need to denigrate her entire species to a "whore of babylon" role.

Take your ass out of you head once in a while. You "the man" are not more important or better than she is, you're only as good as you develop yourself to be and only as good as you are able to enforce your boundaries. Attaching belittling philosophies to women is not going to change anything in reality.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (18 children)


  • Men love women, women love children, children love puppies.


My philosophy will not change on your account.

Truth is eternal... I'll stick with it thank you.


[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (17 children)

Like Jordan Peterson says, people want simple answers to complex issues and you are no exception. You want a list of mechanical and rote rules which spell out what is natural and what is not. It is ridiculous to try and summarise human life and relationships like that. If "natural law" is the guiding principle then why do little kids get cancer, why is there homosexual behaviour in the animal kingdom. Do you think animals have been watching too much Disney. Your system of logic is flawed. Neo, I am sure you are a nice enough guy (in fact I have no doubt you are a nice guy) but your idiotic theories have no place in here. I really think that you should have your endorsed flair removed and instead get a unique flair "the weird uncle" because that is what you are. The weird uncle at family gatherings who no-one really understands but who is not necessarily a bad guy.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (16 children)


Obviously you have no idea what Natural Law is about.

The issue comes down to how far we Dumb things Down.

Do we go as far as Jersey Shore?


But I'll add that censorship is happening now.

I've tried to create a top level post linking something I'll attach below this post.

If it's deleted (nothing there) you know censorship is happening.


Update: Looks like my top level posting might already be blocked.


[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (15 children)



This NOBA Project article, The Replication Crisis in Psychology, references the data in the article Estimating the Reproducibility of Psychological Science. The findings of the original article are summed up in the following NOBA Project graph, which describes “the replication of 100 experiments reported in papers published in 2008 in three high-ranking psychology journals.” On average, two-thirds of those experiments could not be replicated.


That’s only psychology. This same problem exists in all disciplines. This article references 120 entirely fake articles, which have been published in peer reviewed journals. The articles have been removed, so a blog at Nature kept a record of the IEEE-wiped-articles.


You can still use MathGen to generate random mathematics papers today. The blog bragged back in September of 2012, when its first randomly generated math paper was accepted to a reputable peer reviewed journal: Mathgen paper accepted! _ That’s Mathematics!. That was the first MathGen paper to be accepted, mind you.


[–]SelfTaughtPiano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

woah... thats a decent point.

It reminds me of that point by Pook (the legend who probably started the non-PUA redpill theorizing back in 2000); women mirror you and so if you weren't a beta, they wouldn't expect you to coddle them.

[–]1rporion 15 points16 points  (37 children)

We also live in the age of the lost, or rather abandoned, boy.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 18 points19 points  (35 children)



The beta male is prevented from reaching masculinity.


[–]1rporion 9 points10 points  (6 children)

I would like to know whether you think men would become men on their own or whether they are made.

It seems to me that initiation rites, where it is made clear that the rules that apply to women and children no longer apply to you are an important part of the process.

However, we have no such thing in our culture.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 15 points16 points  (5 children)


I think there are "defaults":


  • Males - Rigid, literal, honest.

  • Females - Fluid, manipulative, deceptive.


Masculinity requires you to master Game which is a fluid concept.

Women attain their perfection by submission to a masculine man and in the process gaining something "rigid" or "rock hard". (pun intended)


[–]1rporion 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Alright, but what I want to know is whether you think men would get there on their own, if not actively discouraged, or if they have to be socialized by their peers to fully embrace it.

As far as I know my history, especially military history, standing in a phalanx for example does not come naturally, you have to be trained and socialized just so.

I guess that makes clear where I stand, the thing is, I agree with you that an AFC is actively blocked from unleashing his potential, however, would it be enough to just remove those blocks?

[–]NeoreactionSafe 5 points6 points  (2 children)


That's actually a good question.

As far back as we know there were always the rulers subjecting the peasants in one way or another.

Recognizing Game is an advanced skill, so I'm inclined to think that most people will not get it without coaching.


[–]TunedtoPerfection 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Recognizing game can only be taught. But game itself is forged in the "fires of battle" so to speak. It is learned through experience, you don't learn anything game related without experiencing it first hand.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 3 points4 points  (0 children)


Raw evidence taken from personal involvement is the only way to learn anything of value.

Wisdom comes from raw evidence through the Trivium Method:


  • Open minded on evidence.

  • Close minded on thinking.

  • Share your wisdom.


No one can teach you to be wise by giving you answers.

Truth is always "Thinking For Yourself" based on the evidence.

Game is thinking quickly upon raw evidence and personal inolvement.


[–]gameplace123 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think males become men naturally when left to their own devices. Things like religion, the education system, etc have trained males to not be men, but to be tougher women. Check out the book. What Men Know That Women Don't: How to Love Women Without Losing Your Soul it goes into what happened to the modern man.

[–]tk421awol 1 points1 points [recovered]

Absolutely. You reminded me this post from no ma'am (eotm)

Maybe it's not 100% but it is a fantastic three-part summary of what is going on in society and how it affects boys and men (individual boy and man, your mileage may vary).

[–]NeoreactionSafe 1 point2 points  (0 children)


The Manosphere is a collection of many websites, some are listed in the sidebar (desktop mode) while many others are not.

Google is starting to censor many sites and even block access through searches, so do what you can to learn this information before the links are gone and things go dark.

We might be seeing the end of the "light" so to speak.


[–]aanarchist 6 points7 points  (1 child)

it's why they can't actually handle a real man who holds them accountable for anything. a woman wants daddy to take care of her because she's scared of doing anything for herself, or outright incompetent and incapable, and the daddy figure she's looking for is actually the white knight who either gets off on her infantilism or is willing to indulge it in exchange for sex. women with princess syndrome exists only because men allow it, because the thirstiest of beta knights, red or blue pill, will pander to them in exchange for pussy.

[–]1ozaku7[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it's why they can't actually handle a real man who holds them accountable for anything.

Exactly this! These kind of women have never learned to bear the weight of responsibility, stress and consequences for their actions, and it scares them shitless. They become desperate for anyone that can take the load off her in exchange for blowing the load on her.

[–]Graceful_Ballsack 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My ex once called to me from the table "Can you get me some water, mommy?"

To this day I have no fucking clue what happened in her head to lead her to say that.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

  • "a brat that expects the same from her boyfriend/husband"

And you are clearly not the kind of guy who can deliver. I am not talking about the presents or taking shit, I am talking about a man who makes her feel at ease, safe, someone to look up to. If you were that sort of man you would not have written a whiny ass bitch post about how bad girls treat you and some insipid need to screen them. They are all the same and you just can't cut it. Waah waah. How about you learn to be a real man instead of complaining about girls wanting a real man?

[–]1ozaku7[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Well I don't know about you, but I prefer a woman that doesn't require the care that a 8 year old girl does. Hard to find tho. My 14 year old cousin is the most chill girl I have ever met. But that's because my uncle doesn't take shit from her and raises her like he would raise a son. The last thing he would ever want is a whiny little bitch that is much like his ex.

[–]tk421awol 1 points1 points [recovered]

So do you plan on going gay or being disappointed for the rest of your life? Because you clearly have not read/understood/internalized the basic tenets of TRP.

Unless/until you do, you will be angry at them for your failure to accept the reality of the situation and take the necessary steps to improve yourself and guide/control/ lead the current female in your life.

[–]1ozaku7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm planning on going gay and I start with you.

Stop spewing random cliche TRP sentences that make it seem like you do understand it all. It's good for you to also stop reading and observe your surroundings. For instance, AWALT, but I'm in Europe next to a US military base and there's a clear difference between US and Europe because the woman from US are compared to the average EU woman plain garbage and pretty much fit the profile of the horror stories on this sub.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I just like women. They are all the same to me. You can be like this too if you keep going to the gym, focus on your mission and learn tight game. Even if you only do two out of those three you will get there.

[–]1ozaku7[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's definitely true. Just for the moment I'm tired of dealing with crap, so for now it's just the women that are interested in me which are worth my time. As it should be, but those are the ones that will still do effort to not be so childish.

[–]yuyevin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's a shame that these are the females I'm naturally attracted to. Because this post is entirely true, and I know it.

[–]Iris_Oracle 1 points1 points [recovered]

We are but reflections of those that surround us. Identity is nothing more than the accumulation of inner tendencies and outer experiences. We are not one-dimensional beings where one person carries one trait given to them by one person. We are multi-faceted manipulators. Men and women alike deceive to get what they want. It's absurd to even pretend men are immune to our own deceptive tendencies when we're sitting here deciding how best to take what we want from women, disguising it as an inevitability not of our doing but theirs.

[–]1ozaku7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought that this is exactly what an oracle would say, and then I read your username. Checks out.

[–]Noirtebell 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It's virtually the relationship between Adam & Eve.

Eve is Adam's daughter, as Eve was taken out of Adam. This is what the theredpill means when we say that women are children. They are children to Adam just as Adam is a child to God.

In the hierarchy of love, women pine for the authority of a male, just as men pine for the authority of God. God is our head, just as we are heads to women, and women heads to children.

But because with the fall from the garden, this hierarchy has been turned ass-backwards, any redpill Christian can tell you that as we're born of women, we posses an eve-like nature until we're screwed 'right' by a man, this is why fathers are so important, as without a father the man will carry the eve-like nature throughout his life and become the perfect beta male; the most ideal vector for Satan to spread his poison, just as he poisoned the mind of Eve.

Adam demonstrated his beta nature when he listened to Eve in regards to eating of the tree of knowledge, Eve demonstrated power over him, which then gave the serpent power over him as well. Adam's duty was to correct Eve, he failed to live up to that, gave her authority that was beyond her ability, and then humanity fell from the garden -- from our most perfect state. This is a microcosm of where civilization is at today.

Much of the manosphere is essentially trying to correct this timeless biblical error, a strong family with the father acting as the head is correcting this biblical error, which is why these are among the most devout and fervent Christians. We are fathers to Eve, just as God is our father, we pine for his authority just as women pine for ours.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

And you wonder why real men like Sluts. They don't want do your laundry, they want to suck your dick, bounce on your hips like a cowboy and have you feed them expensive meals, thats it.

[–]1ozaku7[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't wonder. I like sluts becaue they just want to bang without any of the bullshit.

[–]TunedtoPerfection 7 points8 points  (1 child)

You seem really angry about this, and I hate to be the one to break it to you.

In the truest sense of the phrase


truth hurts homie.

Now here is the key point. Her bullshit should not effect you. You become her rock by not allowing her tornado of bad judgement fueled by emotion to effect you.

Don't save her, she doesn't wanna be saved.

You can listen to her problems and tease her about how silly they are. Then slap her ass and tell her to get sexy for you to take her mind off it. But in no way shape or form do you put even a drop of effort into caring or god forbid fixing her problems. Her problems are for her to deal with, she is a grown woman with plenty of resources to fix them. If she wants advice, she can ask for it directly, she doesn't. Women know how to fix their stupid bullshit problems, she was dealing with the same shit before she met you. She wants to have fun and fuck you, let her do that with you easily.

She offloads all her bullshit on to you and then looks for your signal about how to feel. Women aren't retarded, they know 99% of the drama bullshit they worry over and react to is just that bullshit. It will in no way meaningfully effect their lives in a week. But they need/want to see that reaction in you so that she can hamster it away easier.

In the rare case there is an actual problem that needs a quick solution. If she comes to you about it, you need to decide if she has added enough value in your life to actually help. I don't just mean count the blowjobs she gave you last week, does she actually add value to your life. Just because we have had sex before doesn't mean I agree to be your life counselor.

[–]le_wolfe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

IMO this comment has more vital info for incel/beta/AFC than the post here

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (12 children)

Many men are looking to marry a mommy. Its sad that women don't realize it until its too late.

I'm a man. I don't let my GF clean my house, iron my clothes, pay my bills or wipe my ass. Too many men have mommy issues and end up using their wife as a substitute when their mommy dies.

[–]Imalostman_ 1 points1 points [recovered]

I'm quite confused here. On one hand, you're implying that doing your own chores is manly as it shows you do not need her. On the other hand, if you let your daughter not do anything for you, she'll be spoiled. Which one of these is the right course of action, or is it different with daughters and wives?

[–]Barvazon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I disagree - you have to let your daughter do things for herself, instead of you doing it for her. That case, she won't get spoiled.

[–]1ozaku7[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is totally true. Beta men are looking for the cuddles, the support when it's been tough and need to air every problem with her just to hear that "sweety, it will all be fine". Except, then he also expects sex and make sweet love, caressing her head and whatnot, while the average woman just wants to be fucked hard by a man like the masculine muscled guy from the department across her.

I have made the same mistake before, and learned that noone will ever love you like your mother on an emotional level. With your girlfriend or wife, you are best friends who want to fuck one another exclusively at most. The only mommylove she provides is for her children.

[–]1rporion 3 points4 points  (1 child)

That is true, my term is ersatz-mommy....

There are many men who cannot live on their own and will literally take anything remotely female.

Ironically, those are exactly the men women do not want, yet, after a certain age that is all that they can get.

A match made in heaven, no doubt.

[–]1ozaku7[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

These men also get used for their sperm and finances until she just meets her "Mr. Right" who doesn't require mommy love, but wants her feminine attention in turn for his masculine attention to her.

Eventually women give up and settle, so they atleast have someone, have a sperm donor and have someone to pay for the kids when she calls it quits. But when there is the lack of better for her, she will just stick it out and be miserable her entire life.

[–]BestSC86 3 points4 points  (4 children)

You going to get in some trouble as you will find that apparently one of the big humblebrags around TRP is that their plateGF cooks them dinner, cleans their apartments and of course, gives them sex on demand 5 times a day........I always thought it was a bit weird and childish to brag about a girl cleaning your apartment and cooking your dinner.

Of course, that is right before they ask the question about why is she suddenly bitchy all the time and wanting to go out for dinner with her girlfriend or some such thing to get away from being those poster's mommy 24/7.

[–]fetchyminx 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Is there something wrong with cooking dinner, cleaning or giving them sex when they want? Also plates and girlfriends are different...why would you expect this stuff from a plate.

[–]BestSC86 2 points3 points  (1 child)

No....but it isn't a marker of my game as some dudes seem to want prove by stating it in their post right before they ask the most inane question.

I don't go around telling my dudes....about how she always folds my underwear and cooks a mean beanie weenie....

It makes the dudes looks like they are dating a mommy who tucks them into bed each night with a glass of milk and a bedtime story.

[–]fetchyminx 4 points5 points  (0 children)

First of all, what kind of a stupid fuck talks like "she always folds my underwear and cooks a mean beanie" and it's not bragging it to your "dudes". I don't get it, cooking, cleaning are like basic human functions, if she's doing it for you, you automatically have mommy issues? Are you saying guys from the old generation who had submissive housewives who did all this stuff had mommy issues?

[–]DigitallyDisrupt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bit weird and childish to brag about a girl cleaning your apartment and cooking your dinner.

What does your girl do to make her more valuable than a few holes?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I have a sister, I feel like my father does this to her too, and she is barely grateful and takes everything for granted. What should I do to stop this? My father is pretty RP in other aspects, including in the way he raised me, but he still spoils my sister.

[–]1ozaku7[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's a complex with fathers that they experienced all women to be those kinky sluts who would do anything for you, but are not honest with themselves that 20 years later their daughter could be exactly the same. They see this little girl who will be innocent and having vanilla sweet lovely christian type of sex or safe herself for marriage, while the son like you is expected to fuck big titted sluts in Cancun on Beachbreak.

Once he realizes that his daughter can be dicked as hard as he thinks that his son, you, are dicking women and picking them up on a weekend basis from clubs to suck your balls dry, he will quickly change his mindset and treat her with the hard hand that she deserves.

Be blunt with your dad. The problem with fathers with Daddy's Princess Syndrome is that for them it's unfathomable that their own daughter might be the dirty kinky slut that sucks a guys balls from the local club dry every single weekend. Once he realizes that his daddy's little girl in reality is just an ungrateful bitch, he might correct her, but it's too late and it's better if he would just start over by conceiving a new daughter and doing it right from the start. After the age of 5 it's already going in the wrong direction.

[–]PM_YOUR_SIDE_CLUNGE 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Responding purely to the title: that's because daddy is a real man

[–]1ozaku7[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or maybe their own daddy. Get all the good of daddy, and replace all the bad with the good. There we go, Mr. Prince on a White Horse is created and etched into the inside of her skull. Bound to be forever unhappy with whoever she meets in life and settles in misery.

[–]Starter91 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Smart stupid, young old, ugly beautiful same shit different plate different day.

[–]26284629294739 1 points1 points [recovered]

I don't know how to say this but I'm an alpha tier 1 male. I fuck 5 different botches a night that scream for my dick (literally). I don't know whether to go with the advice of this sub or to continue being myself. What do I do?

[–]1ozaku7[S] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Stick with the sub. Screaming is not enough. Your dick should become a literal pussy magnet that repels the pants of their ass and pulls their pussy onto your dick while screaming "THANK YOU, THANK YOU, IMPREGNATE ME OH LORD SWEET JESUS". You're not an alpha until their pussy litteraly sucks the seed out of your balls like no other Dyson vacuum cleaner can ever compete with.

[–]1rporion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is obviously the only reasonable way to proceed.

[–]tallwheel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you are actually being honest, the advice on this sub should ring quite true to you. If it doesn't, then maybe you are a "natural" who never had to actually think or acknowledge any of these concepts consciously before.

[–]ChadThundercockII 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I second the fucking some sweet boi pussy. Join the 5% master race.

[–]xytrooo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great now Ill need to guard my ass while making approaches. way to go TRP, you got alpha overflow and have become gay.

[–]bvg68 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Very insightful and well written.

As a corollary, a case can be made that, most if not all, Blue Pills are looking for a motherly figure.

[–]1ozaku7[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alphas are there to treat women like WOMEN. Betas just are looking for motherly love to replace mommy. You need a special kind of kink to be attracted and actually fuck someone who in some way implies is your son.

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 0 points1 point  (0 children)

daddy issues is usually a girl that had a shitty father that never cared for her and she's longing for someone that can give her what she never had. my ex was like that and she absolutely worshipped the ground i walked on. granted, girls like that also come with a heavy amount of other baggage that should not be taken lightly, hence she's my ex now.

[–]BardCollege_Dropout 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some girls really love that. It's great tho when you find that one who is cool with it.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I noticed women want either a daddy or a son. It's freaky how some women yearn to nurse their men and betafy them in any way possible. The weird thing is,those women I've encountered aren't trying to soften the alpha. They find the beta and make it worse.

My brother,a true born omega is a great example.His wifey takes pride in wiping his ass. She thinks it's cute and adorable,and truly cherishes him...but in a very,very disturbing way.

[–]loofy_goofy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, and beta male is just looking for a mommy.

I don't see the way out of here except going into psychotherapy for long period of time and fix your unresolved childhood needs.

However even if you do yourself you can't make the girl do the same.

[–]jonpe87 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Why do you care about what women want? The question you should ask is: What do I want from this world? And believe or not, that is the kind of man that women want too. Read the "Mental Point of Origin" in the blog rational male.

[–]MrAnderzon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What about the ones without a father

[–]1ozaku7[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whatever Disney threw at them.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Beware of the daddy that does anything for his daughter.


Its much worse when he did nothing or wasnt there. Which results in proverbial butch.

[–]miiichellerenee 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How much time do you all have on your hands to sit here and type pages about what you assume women want?

You're somewhat right, women want everything that you're not.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I love girls with daddy issues. I practically screen for them. My definition of daddy issues seems different from yours though: Girl didn't have a present or good dad so she's seeking that value from another man. This urban dictionary definition is good:

A girl wanting to be submissive and adored by a older guy, who will put her above all others. The sex is kinky, and the dominance irresistible to the male. A girl wanting to be naughty but sweet, just for her daddy.

[–]1ozaku7[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

By that definition they sound like the perfect girl. Sadly I aimed at a different kind which doesn't get disciplined by daddy and takes anything for granted. It's not the submissive type, but the ungrateful taking everything for granted bitch that only has demands and is never satisfied because it's never enough.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm slowly working on a theory that that personality trait--entitled--only manifests itself in interactions with beta males around which she feels she can get away with or even gain advantage from being that way. Obviously the dichotomy isn't clean cut ("women are perfect around alphas and bitches around betas") but in my experience

  1. I have seen females who worship me treat other, beta men like shit.
  2. I have seen females who are cunts to me worship their more-alpha lovers.

[–]tallwheel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my experience these women can be decent to plate, but usually not LTR. They were usually raised by shit single moms, and thus are lacking in discipline, and usually have all sorts of unsolvable emotional issues. Best not to get too involved with most of them. YMMV though.

[–]Robx9001 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I sometimes call these people sexy losers.

[–]1ozaku7[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Haha, that made me chuckle. Elaborate why exactly "sexy losers".

[–]2kevin32 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Because she's hot enough to fuck, but not to keep.

[–]Big_Daddy_PDX 0 points1 point  (2 children)

There's a lot of truth here, but you're showing too much fear at the same time. The Daddy complex in general is a better way to look at women. Think about it, for most of their life, their Dad is invincible and capable at the same time. Tickling them, teasing them, carrying them on his shoulders. And what happens when little girls are brats to heir Daddy? Does he get al butt hurt and start saying "but I'm the Dad! You need to respect me! Stop your shit testing!" - - nope, they get ignored or they get a swat. It's easier when you can shift your mindset from "how do I pass a shit test?" into "do ignore her or give her a spanking?"

[–]1ozaku7[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Seems like you're the expert, Big Daddy. Just treat them like your daughter, and then throw that out of the window before you start taking her top off.

[–]holeshot1982 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'll be dammed!!! You just described my wife....