Merely wondering why you're not having sex and seeking advice is considered 'Misogyny'. Men are not allowed to rise from their station. You do not matter. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Senior Contributordr_warlock

Recently, an article titled, "Guy Goes On a Deranged Facebook Rant, Illustrates the Dangers and Misogyny of the 'Nice Guy", was posted on TheBluePill subreddit.

Link: https://archive.fo/32EO2

  • TLDR: A guy on Facebook claims to have gone out in the field and attempted to garner the affections of women, but things never seem to work out and is deeply depressed because of it. He keeps asking 'why?' and 'why me?'

Sure he tagged the girls he failed with. Sure the post comes off as desperate and weak, but there is not one sentence in that post that suggests any kind of violence or stalking or rudeness in the past or implication of it in the future. His strategy to acquire the intimacy of women is just not working and knows no alternative. He's seeking advice and no one helps him out. He is even deemed the infamous, 'creepy'.

If you wanted to learn programming, you'd be told to take a class, a bootcamp, watch Youtube tutorials or read forum. If you wanted to learn how to do a specific lift, you'd be told to hire a personal trainer or watch some Youtube tutorials. If you wanted to know how to fix a car part, you'd be told to look up a how-to guide. People would even send you helpful links and sources if you had a specific question. But heaven forbid a man seek advice on how to get more sex from women.

"Shame shame shame. Why do you want sex from women so much? Why do you have so many damn questions? Women aren't pieces of meat, asshole!"

There many reasons why that post was awful, but not for the reasons the people are spouting (ie 'misogyny')

Some kind of force is clearly at work. The similar line of logic between the listed scenarios is obviously perceived as different by the masses, especially the women. What is going on?


1) Everything in life is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power. Once a male is perceived as low value, he is not allowed to rise from his station. Not socially, not sexually. Both males AND females collude to ensure this doesn't happen. People don't like others they perceive as beneath them in the hierarchy rising unless they take them with them. 'Stability' is a euphemism for ensuring the people at the top remain there.

Video: RSD Tyler Shows How Society Shames Men into Boxes

2) Women NEED men. They are not independent. Not physically, not emotionally, even if they are financially capable of supporting themselves. A female's problem isn't sexual options, her problem lies in feeling comfortable, provided for, and protected, but at the same time yearn for men that often provide none of these things. So what is a woman to do to solve this dilemma? ==> She constantly creates and maintains a beta tempur-pedic for women as a whole to fall back on. Any man she deems unworthy for sexual affection and wants something from him is automatically transferred to the beta bay.

Under no circumstances are you to desire more than her mere presence. You are to be thankful to receive whatever she feels like feeding to you, even if it's crumbs, or nothing. You have but four purposes: provide, protect, service, and inflate her ego.

You are a shoe, something to protect her unicorn feet while she's out and about. Then you are to stand idle by the doormat until she returns, allowing her girlfriends and other guys she fucks to step on you in the process. Know your place.

Video: RSD Tyler proves AF/BB with an in-field experiment

  • Summary: Tyler goes into the club with a guy and tells him to say he's a dentist. Tyler plags the laid back cool guy. He shows that women do in fact place men in 'mental boxes', categories for roles they deem he would fit best. Tyler explains to the women what they did. They apologized upon their realization, they weren't even aware of what they're doing.

3) When women demand you 'love' them, take them out to dinner (pay for it), buy them a ring worth 3-month's salary, garnish your wages for excessive alimony for her marital 'service' though she never put out, did little to no cooking/cleaning, didn't stay fit or wasn't even nice, among many other things, women and society cheer her on and shame you if you don't. Taking your hard earned money you busted ass for via manipulation, shaming, revoking sex, and legal force is deemed perfectly acceptable. But the second a man's sex drive becomes inconvenient for a woman, he is immediately deemed 'entitled', 'inappropriate', 'selfish', or as seen in this article and the upvotes, a 'misogynist', the literal hatred of all women on the planet. No reasonable person or person absent an agenda could possibly peddle this view. That's because sex is about power. Women view their body and sexuality as a commodity. The majority if not all their value springs from it and they know it. The vast majority of women on the planet, if forced to wear a chastity belt, would be rendered powerless and useless. Therefor, she fights tooth and nail for the battle of the frame of perception and discussion regarding the vagina, because women are vagina.

Women are gaslighting you, they're trying to psyche you out of seeing the true reality, that women are meant for fucking. Women are not objectified, they're objects. The 'business' women at work with formal attire, their uniforms, the countless movements to prop them up to our level, the constant shaming, hootin', and hollerin' are all noise, smoke&mirrors to distract you from this, to uphold the feminine mystique. This is quite clear from the article image, an angry woman with a shotgun standing in front of a wall saying "We aren't things". She wants image fluidity so that she can present one image to men she likes, and distort the reality of those she doesn't for her own gain. Sex is the foundation of all sexual species. Never forget.


Recommended Reading/Viewing

The RSD videos came from the 'Alpha Fux Beta Bux' section of the Red Pill Video Compilation Nuke (over 50 videos, movies, articles, and podcasts)

The 'You are a shoe' video clip link is from the movie, "Snow Piercer", another matrix-like movie.

[–]2awalt_cupcake 121 points122 points  (10 children)

The girl in RSD Tyler's video didn't apologize because she felt bad, she apologized to win brownie points in Tyler's eyes. If it was another low value man pointing out her hypocrisy she'd tell him to fuck right off.

[–]SmilingWatermelon 37 points38 points  (1 child)

Definitely. Ever after pointing it out she was still in to him.

Tyler's video directly shows that fortune favors the bold. Tyler doesn't have an amazing body, and he's still slaying. He's the guy.

Be the guy.

[–]2awalt_cupcake 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Not only does Tyler have boldness but his tactfulness is ironed out. He pulls off absurd interactions with so much finesse it almost looks like he's doing nothing at all.

[–]AlphaGrad 3 points4 points  (7 children)

Is RSD a red pill organization? I'm kinda new to this.

[–]SmilingWatermelon 32 points33 points  (1 child)

No they are just simple PUA guys. If you just want to get laid then just learn PUA.

If you're learning to grow from a boy to a man, study the redpill.

[–]2awalt_cupcake 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Real Social Dynamics. A group dedicated towards filming daygame so you can see pickup elements in practice. They're not PUA entirely kind of a re-packaging on TRP philosophy.

[–]ShakaLeonidas 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Rsd is PUA. Its okay for learning a FEW styles of Game. They hite actresses and everyday hookers aswell to bolster their success. Use it as a soft template. PUA, MGTOW and MRA are founding principals of redpill. "Sex,freedom,a antagonistic veiw of blue pill institutions"

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i assume most of the youtubers getting rich off PUA bullshit are just hiring actresses. tons of them have been caught doing that.

[–]Shukakun 96 points97 points  (11 children)

Let's put it in very simple, primal terms. All females get to breed. Males compete, and the strong ones get to breed. That's human nature.

A male goes out and tries to find a mate.
He is unsuccessful. He is clearly a weak male. If he wasn't, he would have been desired.
The weak male announces to all the females "I went out to breed, and I was unsuccessful! Because of this, I am now unhappy and mentally unhealthy!"
He is met with hostility by males and females alike. That's because he's trying to cheat. He lost fair and square and doesn't deserve a trophy, and him crying about it publicly just makes him that much more pathetic.

No, I'm not encouraging pedestalizing women. Our nature is that, in general, men chase women. But there's a reason we talk about considering yourself the prize. The winning males are even more desirable than your average female. So our nature is more accurately described as "Low value men chase women. Women have plenty of access to low value men but chase high value men. High value men have plenty of access to women."

All that being said, no, crying about not getting laid is not misogyny. It's just sad.

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (8 children)

Your post reminds me of the "You redpillers are wrong our genes determine our sex lives" arguments.

Don't forget most men who do poorly with women have had terrible upbringings coupled with being brought up with constant feminist propaganda.

That man could end up more successful and better with women than you with the right knowledge and self-improvement much like I'm more successful and better with women than most of my early bloomer mates.

[–]Shukakun 13 points14 points  (7 children)

True, when I talk about weak and strong men, I don't mean genetically. I don't have any studies or data to back it up, but it seems to me that on the whole nature vs nurture thing, nurture is far more important. Like, maybe 90% nurture 10% nature.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (4 children)

It's can't be a coincidence that nice guy syndrome is SO much more prevalent amongst Westerners so that adds credence to the nurture.

It's a very interesting subject. Some boys would be alpha if their guardians were two men who dressed them up as a girl and made them play Barbie. But those are minority I believe.

The more common analogy is "show me the boy till 5 and I'll show you the man"

Well chances are that boy will have been taught deference to the female by family, school and society.

[–]Shukakun 19 points20 points  (3 children)

Yes, exactly. Like many have theorized before, I also believe that nice guy syndrome is so widespread because of the way single mothers and couples where the man is a beta doormat and the woman "wears the pants" raise their children.

Mothers are loving and forgiving, fathers are challenging and either disappointed or proud depending on the child. If the father is absent or doesn't know how to be a man, no one will challenge the child. All they'll get is "Always be yourself" when they should be told "If you're shit, don't be yourself, change yourself". The recent lack of male teachers in schools probably plays a part too, teachers often play a secondary parent role.

Besides agreeableness and unconditional love, mothers also do the unintentional damage of telling their sons how to treat women and what women want. Newsflash: Women don't have a fucking clue what they want. Listen to what she does, not what she says.

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The recent lack of male teachers in schools probably plays a part too, teachers often play a secondary parent role.

Looking back at it, most of the 4-5 male teachers I had in my schooling from high school and earlier were all excellent at their jobs, and I learned some vitally important lessons from them.

[–]metallicdrama 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I had very few male teachers, but they were all vitally important to me looking back. Boys need male teachers to become better men.

[–]metallicdrama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Or the father is an insecure beta shitbag and emasculated his own kid like a woman to make himself feel better. Have seen it all the time living in a small town.

[–]beginner_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

True, when I talk about weak and strong men, I don't mean genetically. I don't have any studies or data to back it up, but it seems to me that on the whole nature vs nurture thing, nurture is far more important. Like, maybe 90% nurture 10% nature.

I see it exactly the opposite. Nurture is mostly irrelevant except if serious abuse is involed. Just read up on twin and adoption studies. twins that grow up separately still end up in same or similar jobs, situations and often their wifes look similar. It's pretty shocking how "genetically preconditioned" ones live is.

However being raised by a narcissist single-mom does count as serious abuse and hence nurtures impact gets bigger.

Also there have always been a lot more betas than alphas as we can simply see from genetic studies that most men did not procreate. So even if you were raised in a good environment, that doesn't make you alpha at all.

[–]Shukakun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, your biological base would lead to you behaving a certain way, and most people live more or less on autopilot. If a twin becomes a dentist it is likely that his brother who he doesn't even know will too. But if one of them were told that he was very likely to become a dentist, I don't think there's anything stopping him from becoming a comedian instead. Sure, some people are born with limits such as intelligence far below average, but it doesn't seem to me like the average person is fated to live according to his biological blueprint, it's just that most people don't know or care enough to change anything.

What you're saying about betas makes sense, I think most men are natural betas rather than natural alphas. Very few are great without even trying, most people have to put in a lot of effort to overcome their beta tendencies. That probably includes 99% of the people on this sub. It's why most of us come here in the first place.

[–]yomo86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let's put it in very simple, primal terms. All females get to breed. Males compete, and the strong ones get to breed. That's human nature.

And this is why the RP is important. Breeding, urges aside, is not necessary to succeed in this world. Thus rendering the power of women over men mute, once you acknowledge this. Even making it kind of poetically ironic as sex - the act the urge stems from - is pegged around 1 hooker unit (HU) which equals roughly $50-100 for a mid-class model.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 49 points50 points  (6 children)

Feminists love a Weak Threat.

Nothing is more inviting for a good attacking than a mild threat that is too weak to fight back. Or too nice to fight back, which amounts to the same thing. (We've all experienced this in our journey... we show a little backbone and get attacked from all sides. Once we can defend ourselves effectively the attacks go away).

Now as u/dr_warlock says, this shaming is designed to keep an apparently unattractive man sexless. Most especially by the echo chamber process: other women have deemed him unattractive, therefore he is unattractive, therefore sex must continue to be denied to him.

But the article is more than that. It isn't just saying "unattractive man must be denied sex" - that's clearly already happening.

No, this goes much further. This takes the weakness (or being in a weak position - again this amounts to the same thing) of this one man, and uses it to somehow prove that women are victims of male objectification. The attack against the weak threat is used to try to further the goals of the author (and thus women in general). By twisting him saying "I'd like some intimacy" into entitlement, women can pretend that this weakest of all threats is pretty much the exact same thing as a rapist. The threat in this case is not just weak but is actually being nice to women (or trying to) while simultaneously needing her approval. This makes it trivial to attack him.

Our little feminist ranter could go after the abuse of women in Saudi Arabia. But that would be hard work and there would be consequences and no benefit to her. Or she could tackle something very serious and very real to female wellbeing in the West.... if she could find such a thing.

But a much more fun and productive target is to go after a nice guy. They're too nice to fight back! She can pretend that attacking a nice guy will make the world a better place for women everywhere! She can get him onside to help shame Chad into committing to women who got pumped and dumped!

Ultimately she is leveraging his weakness for the two things these writers want: shaming men for objectifying other, more attractive women...... and money/attention for her writing by writing clickbait for women.

Let's give this woman a Sainthood for standing up to..... a really nice guy. I hope he finds his way here.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Weak threat... Very apt analysis.

An alpha wouldn't be in that box to begin with.

This beta had the audacity to bemoan his plight, publicly, and the harpies descended.

I posted an idea 2 weeks ago about the famous matrix scene....

Neo: What are you trying to tell me? That I can dodge bullets?

Morpheus: No, Neo. I’m trying to tell you that when you’re ready, you won’t have to.

There are no bullets. Alphas know this. Betas think they're the shit when they grow enough to "see/ dodge/stop" them. By giving the cunts validity and an opponent to rail against, you're giving them power.

You need to take the next step and realize that in reality, there is no spoon.

[–]Gaze73 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Isn't shit test a bullet? You can be alpha all you want, the bullet is coming at you.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

a bullet in the matrix is absolutely nothing different than the "air".

You think that's air you're breathing right now?

When you're Neo you realize that it's all just computer code and your mind's interpretation of that code.

When you control the code, nothing has any substance or meaning.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Strange how a post can be simultaneously enjoyable AND depressing.

It's almost beyond parody. If Western feminists are that oppressed by nice guys then logically they should move East and maybe let us know how they get on?

Also the bit about attacks intensifying while you show "a bit of backbone" but then stopping once you show a lot is very true and applies to both genders.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Right, except:

applies to both genders

It sort of does...... but women are vastly worse for applying shame, emotional manipulation and threats of social exclusion to men than the reverse.

[–]TelemachusRising 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah exactly, she could go after FGM in Muslim dominant nations all over, but can't do thaaaat--that's Islamophobia! Better to go after thirsty BBBB's who don't see the way they're making the school of fish turn the other way just cause they're lonely.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 90 points91 points  (23 children)

In girl world genuinely nice guys are creepy and bad while genuinely bad guys are awesome and attractive.

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (1 child)

Because women use manipulative strategies, it is projected and assumed that a "nice guy" is using a pathetic, cowardly strategy to get something in return (sex.) The idea of kindness being for its own sake is unimaginable to someone who always uses kindness as a strategy to get something in return. "Bad boys" are perceived to be go-getters who aren't afraid to get what they want, which is a lot more attractive than some weaselly, bitch nice guy "hiding" his "desires." The irony is that a sincere man walks into their life, and they reject him all while complaining to their girlfriends about men not being sincere. What a fucked up game.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly it.

Women are only nice out of weakness and for manipulative purposes.

They then project this onto genuinely decent men.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (1 child)



Meaning to treat a woman with too much respect

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

More respect than they deserve


But the woman bashing sentiment was there. So +1

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (11 children)

Its because women act and put their best face all the time, fb profile pictures are the proof. They always stay on top of their game while hiding the toxicity inside. They project that on nice guys thinking they hide some creepy secrets whatnot, while for the bad guys (not even bad men, just purely bad guys with zero worth) they confabulate this "hidden" inner beauty.

Its impossible for woman to comprehend that what you see it what you get.

Also, bad guys are usually selfish and not afraid of women but those arent bad traits, its just that they are rare in nice guys. Its hard for nice guys to understand women want sex and need to be "attacked" like an animal.

[–]ILoveJuices 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Nice and bad have nothing to do with it. All that matters is looks and power. Ugly weak men are creepy regardless of whether they are nice or "bad" . Attractive powerful men are awesome and attractive regardless of whether they are nice or "bad ".

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

If looks mattered I wouldn't be on this forum. I was told by women (and men) I was good looking/handsome but I just didn't have the alpha assertiveness to spark attraction.

I think if you are aggressive looking then that may be different but that leads us on to defining what goods looks are for a men. I certainly wasn't hard looking and in my beta days noticed boys who were did infinitely better than good looking boys.

[–]ILoveJuices 16 points17 points  (1 child)

An attractive weak man is still a weak man

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Attractive weak man is an oxymoron.

In the same way I've heard a woman say "there's no such thing as an ugly rich bloke"

[–]slothsenpai 13 points14 points  (0 children)

What irks me the most isn't just that nice guys are unattractive though even the most loving, altruistic, pleasing nice-guys are painted as vile, manipulative monsters if they dare attempt to gain sexual/romantic favours through courting her or if they display the slightest hint of woe/frustration. It's been long gone since my former nice-guy days but shit like how low-status males in society are treated like they're scum of the Earth.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Half true, have you ever been a genuine asshole to girls? It's attractive yes. And yet they all explode and give up on you after a couple off months. It's not as clear cut as you think. Guys who are much less of a jerk than me get steady pussy from a chick while I have to continuously spin cunts. I'm perceived as more attractive but it takes more energy to generate new pussy vs having one steady on tap. The universe is balance.

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (1 child)

I've been there. I was well dressed, well liked/socially popular, good looking, witty and intelligent.

Without an understanding of evolutionary psychology coupled with being spoon fed feminist propaganda about men and women being the same, I really didn't understand why no woman found me attractive when ugly/fat/scruffy/unwashed boys did better than me.

It's baffling. If you're ill you go to the doctors. If one of your needs cannot be met there are support systems to help you. Except man's ultimate need.

A very telling comment on Rollo's blog went something like:

"The seething contempt feminists display to nice guys asking how to get sex shows that even they of all people believe sex is something a superior man just takes from a woman"

[–]josiasx 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I really didn't understand why no woman found me attractive when ugly/fat/scruffy/unwashed boys did better than me.

Check out Rasputin, picture perfect image of an unwashed neckbeard. But he had women paying him weekly visits. He fucked the czarina, and her daughters. He had 2-3 women every day.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 35 points36 points  (7 children)

The bottom line is that in the eyes of society, a low status male should accept their lot in life, sacrifice for the good of the collective, and work / pay into a system that will support the agency of alpha males and women. This is what is optimal for society, provided betas don't get disillusioned and stop providing the stability / order in society that allows women to slut around and alphas to tap freely with no strings.

This, provided that betas play their part, is optimal for the controllers in society (alpha males, followed by women).

So when women or men behave this way (shaming a guy for wanting to not be a loser anymore) it is rooted in very strong evolutionary and societal incentives. We fear change, we fear the idea of things not being the way that they are "meant to be", and deep in our bones and minds we know betas must stay in their place and kiss their faithful wives on the lips after she got done sucking alpha dick. We know the incel losers must continue to lose, we can't have these spergs getting the rewards reserved for the evolutionarily fit, we can't let them have kids and pass on their bitchmade genetics and create more little incel tots.

Obviously we don't think this logically or put words to the ideas (well, we do in TRP, but we as in society, we just instinctively know this is how it should be).

Take me for example. Poor minority kid with a broken nose that didn't heal right because we couldn't afford treatment. Dad worked in a gas station, mom sat at home and bitched. No social skills, awkward lanky body, cheap walmart clothes, etc, on scholarship to a school filled with rich chads and white sorority girls. Do I deserve to never have gotten to know sex and companionship and love? Do I deserve to not have friends, male or female? Or never know what it's like to have a girl look at me with the "holy shit he's hot" eyes? To not have children, and never know the basic joy of watching a little me I nutted out of my balls grow into a man? All because I happened by chance to be born to a poor family with a dad that didn't know anything about raising kids in America? Because I happened to come out socially awkward and ugly, I am just never allowed to experience many of the best things in life?

The answer is yes. In the eyes of the world, I never was meant to. I should have just stayed in my place, been a cab driver or some shit, married up a ugly poor chick from my social strata when she was done fucking her fill, and been an awkward, lonely virgin until that day. This is justice in the eyes of society, this is what is right. They won't say it, but if I would have asked "what should I do to make sure my genetic line continues" their answer is "well maybe your genetic line SHOULDN'T continue."

And they are right. Maybe it wasn't supposed to. Luckily for me, I was born before the incel movement and I was into PUA at a time where people didn't give a shit about LMS, and I genuinely believed I could be a straight 10 through game.

This is the act of misogyny everyone on TRP needs to be capable of. Believing that you deserve and can get 10s through effort over many years. It's not true, you can't get 10s, but you have to believe it, you have to want to be better than just being a Chad. Because the alternative is to continue to play by the rules and logic of a society that would rather see you castrated than successful.

[–]TheRedChemist 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Excellent post and something you should expand on in its own thread sometime.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You're right. The contempt the modern Western establishment reserves for betas wishing to end their loneliness is genuinely shocking to me. It's an unspoken in-joke between the eternal bffs alphas and women.

As I mentioned elsewhere nearly every need anyone can possibly have in modern society is catered for. Every problem receiving support.

But seek help for the ultimate male need and not only will you be denied or worse misdirected you will be bullied, attacked and ostracised. It makes me sick.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

That has never worked and will never work. It's no different than the rich monopolizing the wealth and expecting the poor/labor to support the system. It's also not a good deal for women or their kids, even though the women are too dumb to see that. It only ends in the breakdown of the family unit...and then eventually the society at large. This is why polygamous societies burn and crash and have remained violent shitholes for centuries.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 7 points8 points  (1 child)

The rich have monopolized the wealth (what else was feudal times or colonial times or even ancient societies) and society goes on. Alphas will monopolize and continnue to monopolize the sexual prime of the top women. Betas will support and pay a premium for the crumbs. You re right that's it's not a good deal for the women, and you are right that the rich monopolizing the wealth does lead to revolts. We'll see if the western world has the balls to change the status quo, but I doubt it. The system doesn't work, but it does sustain itself and by and large seem resistant to change - feminism / cultural marxism is only getting stronger and AF/BB is only becoming more commonplace. Society doesn't break down; it just gets worse and more toxic, and betas work harder to keep the whole charade afloat.

[–]beginner_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We'll see if the western world has the balls to change the status quo, but I doubt it.

It will happen. Question is only how toxic and degraded society get till it does and how fast it degrades. Too many people still think they have too much to lose to risk their lives. When it happens will also be largely random. The basis for revolution must be set. People must be angry enough and have little enough to lose. I think that will be another 1-2 decades at least. Then random events must happen that trigger the outbreak. This mostly likely will be a natural disaster affecting whole US or Europe or both. Natural disaster leads to hunger and when people are dying of hunger they will have very little to lose.

[–]Kingofdeadbedroom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good for you!

I'm already instructing my own 11-year old son, so that he is ready to deal with this bullshit. I've been giving this topic some thought, and I'll soon begin teaching my 5-year old son. I'll be teaching him from a non-sexual angle, concerning compliance with authority figures (mostly women at his age). I'll see if I can teach him to choose to comply with instructions for a workable outcome (in his interests), rather than being emotionally manipulated through anxiety, shame and guilt.

[–]Guthix4Days 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IMO you can do anything if you set a goal, have enough ambition to achieve it, and strive to attain as many points as possible - lift, diet control, meditation.

This is only my opinion and might not be popular here, but I believe that the only true justice is done by God. The "justice" we practice is but a poor imitation of it's divine counterpart, and prone to error and prejudice - it is only natural, because we humans are inherently flawed. I'm not trying to Bible thump here, but to emphasise that society has no right to tell you that you are "unfit" to enjoy the pleasures of life. From here on it is up to you to stick up for yourself, improve where you are lacking and give anybody who tells you "you can't improve yourself, you need to stay a loser!" the finger.

[–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 35 points36 points  (2 children)

Holy shit, he made that facebook post and tagged 75 girls?

And then he complains when people respond instead of PM-ing because it's embarrassing?

He doesn't take responsibility for that fact either, but goes on some bullshit "I pm-ed some of the girls".

I mean he's not asking advice openly, he's pouring out his heart. And you know, that's fair, if that's what you want to do.

But he's asking advice in a tendentious manner from the people who supposedly wronged him. It's like a car salesman tagging potential previous customers that didn't buy a car, even though they seemed interested.

It may well be the case that asking advice about how to get more sex as a man is not something that's appreciated or rewarded (in fact I would rate that as almost certainly true), but I don't think this post is exactly exemplary of that fact.

It's actually healthy to some degree that he isn't taking his frustration lying down and is looking for new information. He has a lot to learn about self-improvement and how to ask for it though, even if it were gender-neutral.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

There's no excuse for the post. It's sad, it's weak, but the point of my response is to point out that ridiculousness and intentionally misleading responses by women. The whole concept of misogyny is ridiculous. Women wont change their ways, that's not my goal. But I can change your mind and let you see what's really going on.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 8 points9 points  (0 children)

But he's asking advice in a tendentious manner from the people who supposedly wronged him

Yeah... he believes that all the girls saying "be nice" and "just be yourself" and "you win in the end" and "be a good friend" is the way to win them over, and believes that his mother and the girls who said this were being honest rather than self interested.

Because he thinks they are honest, it makes sense to pour out his heart and ask "where am I going wrong, oh beautiful honest creatures!?"

[–]Optional_Reading 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Complaining out loud about not getting sex is a double whammy. Especially if women are present. You just cockblocked yourself.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 6 points7 points  (1 child)

The guy lacks the basic social skills that allows him to even be in the realm of realistically getting laid.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He lacks knowledge that's all. Getting laid is impossible if you don't have it and oh so easy if you do. It's not about looks, status, social skills etc I say that from personal experience.

And what's worse is he doesn't know that he doesn't know. In fact he thinks he knows. He's being the nice guy he's been told to be.

[–]slothsenpai 11 points12 points  (7 children)

How the fuck does wanting basic fucking love, affection and intimacy make you "entitled". This shit is why I feel like I'm stuck at a permanent anger phase.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

My guess is, if you've ever been a beta at some point in your life it might always be angering to see this shit. Even if you've personally progressed to full amused mastery alpha you still know what it feels like. Empathy is the ability to share the feelings of another. Sympathy is when you're faking it.

[–]slothsenpai 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I've gone past that stage since though it makes you realise the massive differences in how low-status men are treated in comparison to high-status men. Everytime I emphasise with incels or good guys who do get overlooked, I get accused of being a virgin. For a society that preaches tolerance and accept, everyone seems so hostile and callous.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everytime I emphasise with incels or good guys

Isn't it amazing how much they (and humans in general) reject the medicine they would benefit so much from? There's something to be said about cognitive dissonance or deliberate self deception in that.

for a society that preaches

I'm sure you're aware but it bears repeating: "Society" is a story that we tell ourselves, like communism or capitalism or equal rights. There is no "society" coded for in biology beyond what natural selection has left us with.

On the chance you haven't read Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari, I recommend it. I think you may enjoy it. I wish everyone in this sub read it.

[–]beginner_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It doesn't make you entitled but going on facebook and posting it to the whole world is extremely cringe worthy and shows a complete lack of self-awareness. The laugh is always on the loser. Don't publicly label yourself as loser.

"Nice guys" lack self-awareness and introspection. They don't get how others perceive them (boring, weak, creepy, fake,...) and fail to see the fault with themselves. Hence they rinse and repeat and it never works yet they blame the world and not themselves.

[–]slothsenpai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Imagine revising for a physics exam where you'd been told cosmology would come up, you'd revised your hardest for it but quantum theory came up inside. Everyone else around seemed to get the memo whilst you were sold lies and whilst you were confused and expressed those woes, everyone lambasted you as "entitled" and told you to do the opposite of what you were taught not to do.

That's what being a nice guy is like. And believe me, I'd been there. No one apart from redpill point them in the right direction or offer any form of guidance.

[–]Kingofdeadbedroom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's disgusting from the perspective of society as a whole.

However even more disgusting is this applies to individual women (AWALT). If you sacrifice too much for a good wife, she becomes toxic (only mildly in my case) and turns off the sex supply, and shows no appreciation for all your efforts. I have validated the Redpill principles that you must look after and care for yourself, well above all others, and especially a wife.

Treat anything from the lips of women as shit tests. Have no fear of being your masculine self and being controversial. You don't have to try to please them. Just do what you want, and enjoy living your own life.

[–]cashmoney_x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because it's NOT meant for everyone. It's not "basic" ie a staple of human life. It's conditional.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 10 points11 points  (0 children)

But heaven forbid a man seek advice on how to get more sex from women.

Women want good genetic material, not a good students. It's the Great Blooper Hypocrisy: they insist genes have little to do with what we become but go apeshit if any man tries to present himself as something other than his default.


If he actually hated women, I think he'd have an easier time not having sex with them.

[–]Mr-Ed209 9 points10 points  (1 child)

For me, it's not even cringe reading that. I've been exactly where that guy is. Threw my phone at a wall the last time a girl who 'really liked me' started seeing someone else. And gone through all manner of confusion just like that guy.

Get him to TRP. Even if he doesn't end up getting laid as a result - at least he will never end up confused or surprised by women ever again. That's more than most men figure out in their life times.

[–]Leftmove 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I guess this is why women shame men who see prostitutes. It takes away all their power, without sex as a commodity they're useless

[–]1PantsonFire1234 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Sometimes we forget that men grow into alphas and aren't magically born power level 9000. Some just get ahead more through genes, others because of a tough childhood and others because of rich parents. Some guys are so horrible fucked that they might never run the race. But regardless men run the race.

The feeling that men aren't allowed to ascend on the dominance ladder is in and off itself a shit test and if you believe in it you fail. It's the final shit test that asks the male "Sure you have grown in value, but I think you are still the same weakling as before". And the moment the man verifies this he lost the shit test.

[–]usedsparingly 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Good post. A nice friendly reminder to not be a creepy nice guy. And a slap in the face to be grateful that you're redpill aware and not this guy.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The website to which it is posted literally starts by saying "the patriarchy...". You should be laughing at something so absurdly biased, not getting all upset about it.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's true, I always think I love a woman but after a week or two of banging her heavily, I start to pick out her flaws, then dump her. Turns out I only loved her beauty and pussy. (On the defence most women are boring, mindless and clones)

[–]SAPPHIREAURA 5 points6 points  (2 children)

saw affinity article on Twitter today saying how young women should be able to dress "older" without old creepy men checking them out and it had a picture of a teen with her tits out smfh

[–]askmrcia 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Pretty much the world we live in. We teach women to do whatever they want and not have any consequences.

Women cheat? Its the guys fault. Women whore around in their teens and 20s, they should still be able to find a man to accept their past.

Women eat unhealthy foods and don't work out. We should accept their body weight.

Women keep dating assholes, abusers, ect...

Its there aren't enough nice guys around.

Women dress like whores? Can't call them whores or treat them as such. I can keep going.

Its just the world we live in.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And the police/military protect that insanity that is contemporary culture.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Wow that video is fucking brutal. His long whiny intro was worth it. Listen to how hostile these women get. Listen to the wagging finger shaming. Not gonna lie it was uncomfortable to watch. Did you notice how they started to give affection to make everything better after being called out? Wow.

Great post OP.

[–]newName543456 11 points12 points  (0 children)


That guy is a typical incel.

It's one thing to not get laid, but whimpering for attention like that...

NEVER whimper for attention.

[–]LordASCII 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have no doubt RSD's "on the scene" videos are chock full of actresses. They'd be better as just stand alone talks.

[–]chaosrunssociety 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No shit. It's like the liberals-gone-wrong want to criminalize male sexuality.

[–]pentakiller19 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wow. This is probably one of the best things I've ever seen. Eye opening. Ground breaking. There are not enough words.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Props to anyone who actually read that whining essay.

[–]summersss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah this was guy was flamed. Way to win allies, they don't want people seeking the red pill but the push people to it when they refuse to answer simple questions with some respect. Fun fact, I learned about this site from an article complaining about the manosphere on Jezebeel.

[–]TunedtoPerfection 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you stand up for yourself enough and fight enough fights through to the bitter end. You will be unfazed by shame of any kind. Shame today is used as a control mechanism by anyone stupid enough to care about it.

[–]not_here_4_points 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Everything in life is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power.

No, this is a stupid platitude.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Biologically speaking everything is about sex. You cannot say something is the result of natural selection if it didn't contribute to more fucking and healthy babies.

The culture does in fact try to act like sex isn't about the biological aspects of sex.

Sex is indeed power for women.

I think his comment is pretty logical.

Help me understand what makes it a stupid platitude.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because he cannot accept the truth. Sex is 100% power For Women and they demonstrate this fact at every opportunity.

[–]not_here_4_points -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Everything is about sex? Like reading Timmy a bedtime story? No, pervert.

Sex is about power? No, more affection and intimacy.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

like reading Timmy ...

Way to miss the point. slow clap

affection and intimacy

That's exactly what she'd want you to believe.

[–]not_here_4_points -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

I miss the point by proving a situation an absolute statement doesn't apply to? Sex is about nothing but power? No and no.

It's a stupid quote that originated with a stupid pervert.

[–]CallMeHaseo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel bad for this dude man, remember brothers at the end of the day In the blue pill matrix society in which we live, so one has your best interest at heart but YOU. Not your parents, not your bitch not your "friends", nobody. Play to win.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that guy was not 'merely wondering why he wasnt having sex' and the motherfucker was 30 years old posting the shit he was, why on earth would you take him at his word? he was probably real creepy with some of those girls. probably another case of being fucked over by society, genetics and his parents but he can still fuck off.

[–]imPwP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have derived a wealth of knowledge from this post. Man. Awesome.

[–]ConsumingImpulse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amazing post. The notion of low value men not being allowed to rise up is really the core principle of TRP, and my response is FUCK THAT. I will take what I want from this world. But also, be realistic. It never hurts to have the basic stuff drilled into you again.

[–]SAPPHIREAURA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh you left one out! Woman calls cops and says you hit her when you didn't, you end up in handcuffs. :D

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

to fair, that guy is fucking nuts, not sure why you're making excuses for him.

[–]xddm2653 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone get that dude on red pill asap..

[–]IarentDave 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I understand your point, but why limit your mind to the idea that sex is omni important and the attributes that help you get sex are just as if not more important? (taking care of yourself, standing your ground and having drive and goals etc).

It's totally possible to starve women and other men of most of your attention and focus and use that energy on yourself to help calm yourself in the moment and do whatever it is that comes to mind - while ignoring the distractions that people like to use (eye contact, aggressive or high energy movements).

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (2 children)

This sub is about sexual strategy not oneism.

[–]Ltactics1 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Like him, i think you're overblowing this. Who cares what one girl over the internet says. People say dumb shit all the time, men and women. That doesn't make it some overarching epidemic.