Girl I am seeing gets visibly upset when I take out a condom.. (self.TheRedPill)

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Ok so a little background..

This girl I attempted to date 3-4 years ago used to constantly blow me off and play games with me. ( I was in college and she was 25 and fairly hot.. (Probably 8-9))..

I used to constantly invite her places, and all she attempted to do was get free food out of me.. "Do you like sushi?" Etc..

So anyway.. flash to now I have my own business with a few employees, and I'm at my peak (I'm 32)... She is now turning 30, still living with her parents and still selling insurance, getting free vacations from old people whenever she can..

We went on a few dates.. she LITTERALLY was telling me.. "well I'm turning 30 soon so I don't have a lot of time."... followed by "oh you have a business now? How much money do you make, how many people do you employ etc..." (followed by... oh I have a week off let's go on vacation... hint hint)

The tipping point was when I casually mentioned that I was cancelling a date because I had to go shopping for a condo downtown... she FORCED me to meet her later that day.. after a movie she invited me to her parents place (They were gone on vacation)... I told her I needed to go home but she literally kept pouring me shot after shot after shot... after a while she said let's go upstairs and watch a movie.. so 20 seconds upstairs she strips naked and starts poking her face into my face... I kind of felt obligated to kiss her but her neediness was just weird.. like there was no passion.. it was just mechanical as if she was a machine with an objective.. so anyways a few minutes of foreplay I reach into my bag and get a pack of condoms...

This is when things changed...

The look on her face can only be described as utter disappointment...

Her: "Are you afraid of getting me pregnant?"

Me: yea kind of like... you don't really know me and having a kid right now would be a bad idea (and they would probably have hooves)"

Her: "But I was just on my period it's ok you don't need to use one I'm clean"..

Me: "Ummm I would prefer to be responsible right now, I like you but this is way too early and we need to be smart"

At this point of time I was starting to get kind of nervous as she was becoming visibly angry..she for several minutes tried to convince me not to wear a condom as if her life depended on it.. I kind of figured this was not going well..

After several more minutes of me trying to explain to her that I'm not fucking without a condom, I flat out told her I have no money and got my shit and started to the door...

After first feigning with the whole "Ok just go", she realized I wasn't kidding, and she SPRINTED after me.. "No wait... arent you going to have sex with meeeeeee?????"

It felt really really weird....

I just got into my car and drove away...

morals of the story:

1 the wall is real 2 women do have agendas (especially hot ones) 3 be very very careful as one night can ruin your life. 4 trp is life..

[–]1Bucketdweller 1708 points1709 points  (99 children)

Sounds like she's already pregnant and looking to peg it on somebody within a reasonable timeline.

[–]skibrett15 636 points637 points  (17 children)

This is a real possibility.

[–]krefnasterploc 79 points80 points  (15 children)

You don't even need to apply occams razor here to know she's fucking other guys as well and is going to get pregnant soon if not already. And she's already made her list of 'potential daddies' (OP being 1 of them) for whoever is unlucky to fall for the trap.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 52 points53 points  (13 children)

Honestly i'm 25 now and I can't wait for the clusterfuck that is the wall. All my female peers are on the tipping point right now and it's already hilariously obvious how much the playing field has shifted. I have no conscience when it comes to a lying scheming washed up slut. Fucking and chucking them in the most cruel ways will be bliss for my sadistic soul.

[–]TheYekke 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Please post FR's and tallies. I'm on a sadistic streak

[–]1PantsonFire1234 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Gonna have to wait 5 years mayte.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (4 children)

It will get old real quick and you will evolve into feeling sorry for the adorable little slutkittens

In no way am I shaming you for your fuck n chuck plans. Just saying I too did that and looking back it was something I needed to do but I am not sure Id call it fun.

Now I fuck em and let them chuck themselves. So much easier and the shelf life of return pussy so much longer

[–]1PantsonFire1234 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Nah I get you man. I'm still looking forward to the freedom and options. But I do know that things like getting even only satisfies you for a short time. If not at all.

The fact that wall hitting women chuck themselves is amazing though. You'd think they realized they aren't calling the shots.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

they drift off sulking that a man wont give them what they want. they respect and love it but eventually they slot you in the asshole category thats only good for fucking

[–]1PantsonFire1234 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It seems girls do that at any age, I don't get it. When I was a teenager there was always some older jerk they preferred. Now I've grown up myself and now I'm the asshole 'fuckboy' they decide to magically get pissed at within 1-3 months.

You can't win. Either they cheat on you with Chad or they give up on you for Billy. I thought women would get some sense and experience around that age. Not that I was planning on using it.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

that's why self generated happiness is so so important

[–]EnlightenedViking 337 points338 points  (21 children)

responses like this is why i love trp. most people wouldn't even consider that - i was that guy that was pegged the father

[–]SaggyT 43 points44 points  (7 children)

How did you get to know it wasn't yours?

[–]EnlightenedViking 15 points16 points  (4 children)

discovered TRP after that long relationshit. I brought up the experience up on TRP and a few guys pointed out I'm probably not the guy. They haste she made to make sure I would cum insider her after not living with me for a 2 weeks, after cheating made it clear I was most likely not the man. I've looked for that hard stats on this but I believe its been stated many times women are more likely to get pregnant by a lover while cheating

[–]SaggyT 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Wow , cant you get a dna test just to be on the safe side?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DNA test?

[–]redditor787 191 points192 points  (9 children)

Eighteen years, eighteen years She got one of yo kids, got you for 18 years Eighteen years, eighteen years And on her eighteenth birthday he found out it wasn't his

[–]Troll_Name 42 points43 points  (2 children)

In California I think it's 25.

She basically owns your ass. Family court doesn't have to play by the same rules as other courts either - they just rubber stamp everything and take a cut.

[–]warmbutteredbagel 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Now I ain't sayin' she a gold digger

[–]Duchat 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Kanye married the most successful ultra golddigger and got her pregnant.

[–]TRAPGODGUCCI1017 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Kim makes more money than him though lol

[–]JDeegs 9 points10 points  (0 children)

She digs gold out of the general pop. And her fans though. Not like she married Humphries for his money.
The only thing she ever did close to gold digging was using the sex tape with Ray-J to gain popularity

[–]kagetsuki23 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Kim his rich ,she is the best option for him to have children without ending broke. Although the kardashian familly is fucked up, she better than most broke slut.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kim kardashian is clearly a succubus. Kanye is a goddamned idiot for getting himself into that marriage. I feel bad for that kid North.

[–][deleted] 149 points150 points  (7 children)

Wow - you're right. OP - if she does start to blame the baby on you, then make sure you take a paternity test. But for the love of RedPill, please walk away.

[–][deleted]  (5 children)


    [–]xXSkylar 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    makes absolutely no sense, she could just call out anyone for being the father then. Either the mother consents or the potential father doesnt have to pay anything

    [–][deleted]  (1 child)


      [–]xXSkylar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      ah okay now I understand what you meant, the full mental beta behaviour of some men just didnt cross my mind. Just wanted to say that you can demand a paternity test before paying shit especially when shes not your wife unless you are a cucked beta.

      [–]deville05 88 points89 points  (4 children)

      Fuck me I thought she was trying to get him to have her baby and get married.didnt even consider that the baby could be somebody elses

      [–]1Goomich 24 points25 points  (1 child)

      Condoms break sometimes, you know, they have only like 99% efficiency or something, you know. There's no need to waste money on paternity test...

      [–]Gugulen1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      We don't know that's what happened, either. Either way, though--good riddance.

      [–]Darth_Antonius 74 points75 points  (11 children)

      Possibly, but doubtful because a DNA test is all OP would need to prove the kid isn't his. More likely than not this girl saw him as a perfect beta provider that she could milk child support from. Luckily for OP, she tipped her hand very early and threw up multiple red flags that screamed desperation. OP, disassociate yourself from her as fast as you can, nothing good will ever come from any sort of relationship it's her

      [–][deleted] 85 points86 points  (7 children)

      Too bad that DNA tests are illegal in France and soon will be in other places.

      All is Lost. Hope is Futile. Samson Looms

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        [–]Troll_Name 26 points27 points  (1 child)

        Women aren't trying to get you to knock them up. Women are trying to get your past present and future income. If your income goes up, your debt goes up. If your income goes down, you go to jail.

        I lost my pay and kept working because of somebody else's divorce. It wasn't over until the woman with a high power lawyer to make her look needy got the bankruptcy clients' court fees too. She took everything from everybody.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        It ends it. Permanently.

        Ashes and Echoes

        [–]vandelayarchitect 5 points6 points  (2 children)

        What the fuck? If thats true, i wonder whose bright idea that was and what group of cucks went along with it

        [–]laviksa 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        It's only legal by court order. Private tests result in hefty fines and even jail time.

        All thanks to feminized psychologists that believe that the one who raises a child is the 'real father' of the child (sociologically speaking, which could be in a sense true, but not regarding alimony (hence why it's possible to get it by court order)). They believe this legislation is important to 'keep the peace' within families.

        [–]szechuan_slauze 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        In some places even if the baby isn't yours signing your name on the birth certificate makes the baby your financial responsibility

        [–]SilverGryphon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Unless you live in states such as Texas, where paternity by estoppel exists.

        [–]killer3james 25 points26 points  (0 children)

        This didn't occur to me until I read your comment.

        You are very smart.

        [–]The_Lightskin_Wonder 16 points17 points  (0 children)

        Wow I was honestly convinced she was just a weirdo, but this makes sense as well. Usually women don't want the shame of having a child out of wedlock or a relationship and op was the perfect candidate , but the only thing that makes me think she wasn't trying to peg a pregnancy is because she had a general interest in him financially. I think she was trying to get child support I believe her desperation was in finding money. Maybe a life crisis, and was sick of having to work for herself and seen all these housewives.

        [–]ELEPHANTIUSCOCKIUS 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        Although if she's pouring him shots, I wonder if she was also drinking. I want to say she would no better to drink while pregnant but she also seems batshit crazy so who knows.

        [–]1Bucketdweller 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Also might be pouring herself shots and handing them over subtley. It's easy sleight of hand.

        [–]Pornotubeourtio 9 points10 points  (2 children)

        I will wait for OP to tell if she got pregnant or not

        [–]Troll_Name 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        She already was pregnant. Bitches just need to find a dude with money to blame. If you can afford a scantron sheet then you got more money than the man who actually knocked her up.

        This is why the "one drop rule" exists.

        [–]Papa_Gamble 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        One drop rule? I'm new to TRP and am curious for a quick definition.

        [–]yomo86 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        First thought. This is premeditation not the touchy-feely I-am-shortly-before-the-wall-take-me-stud-situation wall sluts are usually in. You are 32 so consider a vasectomy if you are adamant about not wanting kids, the pressure formed the lump of coal and it is just a matter of time until the shaming starts.

        Two years ago girls suddenly reacted to my wooing way better - since I know my prima facia SMV, I swear to god, game had nothing to do with it, as 27+ girls were the ones affected, so yes, TL:DR they have an agenda once their SMV coin runs dry.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)


        Not for stating the obvious!

        The point is to highlight and give visibility to the very important game we are playing where female sexual strategy sure as fuck isnt YOUR sexual strategy, so treat women with the same respect you would treat a dangerous pet that you enjoy playing with.

        Pit bulls and Tarantulas come to mind.

        Danger and Play makes life very interesting for the bold.

        [–]brainhack3r 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Fuck.. I wouldn't have guessed that but you're fucking right!

        Op.. you should follow up on this and post an update if this is true!

        [–]1Original_Dankster 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I'd put it at about a 95% chance this is the case. I agree.

        [–]LibertyIsNotFree 1 point2 points  (2 children)

        My bigger thought is herpes not pregnancy

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          [–]bolupua 289 points290 points  (8 children)

          RED FLAG.


          You can do better.

          [–]Troll_Name 83 points84 points  (4 children)

          This is why I'm always telling young guys not to thirst so much. Being lonely is better than being chained up.

          [–]askmrcia 34 points35 points  (3 children)

          I always tell people that being lonely is really only a temporary feeling. The times I feel lonely only last for a day or maybe a week at the most (usually around holiday season or that dead period in the end of summer like August).

          However, when I was in a LTR, the stress I went through was much worse and lasted much longer then anytime I felt lonely.

          What I'm getting at is, for a guy, you won't be feeling lonely 24/7 unless you have absolutely nothing going on in your life. And that's your problem.

          But being in a LTR, especially when things go south, that shit is a drain. Even worse if you have kids together or living together.

          [–]menial_optimist 3 points4 points  (2 children)

          Fuck, I never heard this perspective. LTR-less for 7 years. You're right, once in awhile is normal to feel in the dumps lonely but it goes away after a few days. I'm at a low point (nothing interesting in my life atm) but working to fill my life with interesting activities. I can't wait to be the 30 year old dude with no kids and a successful high paying career.

          [–]slumdog-millionaire 6 points7 points  (2 children)

          I don't understand why OP would even be talking to this girl if he tried to date her a few years ago and she blew him off. When she eventually realizes that she missed out you just politely tell her that she had her chance.

          Regardless though this is a great story, crazy how she is literally throwing herself at him now, roles are completely fucking reversed, she needs him. Love it. But you still had the insight to exit a potentially dangerous situation. Kudos


          [–]bolupua 1 point2 points  (1 child)

          I understand it. OP probably loved her all those years. I mean, if not, then why? I mean maybe she's hot but...30 year old.

          [–]slumdog-millionaire 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          I mean I kind of have a girl like this and I think at some point down the line she's gonna rear her head back in my direction but I've already decided that I'm not going to do anything with it.

          [–]strikethrough123 236 points237 points  (1 child)

          Sounds like this bitch already has a bunch of Chads' cum swimming in her.

          [–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 22 points23 points  (0 children)

          And possibly some STD's with that kind of recklessness

          [–]Xoramung 139 points140 points  (5 children)

          she FORCED me to meet her later that day

          How did you break out of the cuffs?

          [–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (1 child)

          [–]MushyTheCat 21 points22 points  (1 child)

          I'll call OP on this. No one FORCES anyone to do anything. You caved to her pandering. And that's OK but OWN what's YOURS.

          [–]Hung_Chad 8 points9 points  (0 children)

          Agreed. How we phrase thing is important if you want to truly be your own man. "She pushed hard to meet and I eventually caved" is more honest and sets you up to make better choices next time.

          [–]CharlesX0l0 196 points197 points  (6 children)

          Why are you, a 32 year old CEO and entrepreneur even considering a 30 year old deadbeat who lives at home? Ar you wasting money on her? Paying for her drinks? Don't.

          Read that again... and again. A guy like you could swipe for one hour in eastern europe and have dozens of 8-9s around 22-23 willing to have your kid if that is what you want.

          [–]JFMX1996 164 points165 points  (1 child)

          Think he just wanted a pump and dump.

          Also it's a huge ego boost for a lot of guys to fuck a girl you used to like a lot.

          [–]vaduz0001 58 points59 points  (2 children)

          It was extremely satisfying seeing this girl who used to be hot shit have a 180 degree reversal. I was basically using her for some cheap company and practice while I pursued women who I was actually interested in.

          [–][deleted]  (1 child)


            [–]whuttupfoo 446 points447 points  (14 children)

            You need a stronger frame bro. Your responses need to be a firm no. Even a hell no. No explanations, nothing. You should almost get offended by her wanting to go raw.

            Your language needs some work too. You mentioned she FORCED you. She didn’t force you to do anything. You also mentioned you felt obligated to kiss her. You aren’t obligated to do anything. Your world and reality is supposed to be controlled by you, no one else. Everyone else steps into your world, your frame.

            Also it sounds like she smelled “provider male” on you as soon as you mentioned the business and started trying to trap you into a pregnancy. That would explain why she’d want to go unprotected so eagerly.

            [–]en_men_lu_ana 29 points30 points  (1 child)

            There was that story a while ago, basically some guy who said 'no' was terrorised - sex or bitch is calling the cops to inform them about rape attempt.

            He managed to get out of this madness without any repercussions. Anyways, the issue still remains.

            After such as threads I have serious problem with understanding females and trusting them. To me, they are just extremely risky to deal with.

            [–]Hung_Chad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            Anything fishy, pull out your phone and start recording audio. Pretend you are answering a text or something.

            [–][deleted] 72 points73 points  (8 children)

            Another thing - she seems to be a mix of crazy with a terrible determination to get a baby from you. I say walk the fuck away. And if you cum in a condom, I sure as fuck would take that condom and flush it in the toilet. I wouldn't be surprised if she tries to steal some sperm from the condom or something and finger herself. I wouldn't cum in her mouth either for the same reason. I'm don't normally say this but she is a bad news of crazy and wants a daddy for her baby.

            Edit - reddit is taking up too much of my attention and energy, so time for my regular reddit purge and vacation! Deleting this username (formerly u/theoneaftertheone) and see you great men on the flip side if I come back - whenever that is - (probably under a different username, who knows).

            [–]hodltaco 28 points29 points  (7 children)

            Good point-guys: NEVER leave a used condom in a waste basket. Take it with you when you leave. I'd say flush it down the toilet but I know how it clogs toilets so don't. It's gross but take it with you. It might just save you from paying child support for 18 years.

            [–]ProudFeministMom 22 points23 points  (6 children)

            No, just spray some hot sauce into the condom before leaving it there so she has a little surprise waiting for her.

            [–]PreOrgasmGroanLness 11 points12 points  (0 children)

            Aaaahh, the dreaded tabasco blowjob revenge. At last.

            [–]i_forget_my_userids 55 points56 points  (2 children)

            This is the most retarded virgin fantasy I've read here in a while.

            [–]Teripid 13 points14 points  (0 children)

            Plus turns out it just gives the kid red hair...

            [–]xxblueswiftxx 17 points18 points  (0 children)

            This. No need to explain yourself to a girl.

            [–]suske127 31 points32 points  (0 children)

            Sounds like trp possibly saved your life in this situation to. Good job not falling into her trap brother. This is why the older men here say they go for women pre-wall generally

            [–]redlurker9 29 points30 points  (0 children)

            What a trash human being she is. Your frame is weak though: "she FORCED me to meet her", "I would prefer blablabla", "I like you but this way too early and we need to be smart".

            You should really avoid her. Even if you do manage to fuck her with a condom, and flushing it afterwards, she sounds crazy enough to pull out rape accusations.

            [–]atraw 22 points23 points  (0 children)

            Man, by this text you sound very soft and non-confrontational. Hold your frame.

            [–]hodltaco 17 points18 points  (2 children)

            " I was just on my period it's ok you don't need to use one..."

            Guys-you're going to hear this at some point and you're going to have to think straight over that erection. NEVER stick your un-condomed dick into something you're not ready to pay child support for 18 years. Solid example of AWALT here. A woman's "baby alarm" is going off solid and loud at about 27-37 so they're desperate for babies and support.

            I'm old but can vividly remember "the change". My god the women 18,19,20,21,22,23,24 were SO concerned about condoms I always assumed it was because AIDS had just come on the scene. Suddenly fucking a 27 year old and suddenly she wants to "feel me". "Shoot your cum in me...I want to feel it...I can't get pregnant..." Even my now ex-wife pulled that shit days before we split up-she was 31.

            Any of you poor souls that gets a random girl pregnant had better get a DNA test as well.

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              [–]Perpetual_Protege 36 points37 points  (0 children)

              She's nuts. I'd avoid having any kind of association with her. My red flag was her getting upset over you pulling a condom. Definitely trying to trap you.

              [–]eaeulis 16 points17 points  (0 children)

              4 years of games from her and you finally get her and she reveals the real her. lesson learned.

              [–]IClimbPlasticAndRock 15 points16 points  (1 child)

              Never let people know how much money you have man. Nothing good comes from it.

              [–]i4mn30 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              This needs to be one of the top comments. Most valuable learning I realized 2-3 years back. The moment you disclose how much you make, the eyes go wide and twinkle twinkle money lit up the sky.

              People in general, not just women, will change their tone and start giving you respect all of a sudden, and more often than not, will end up asking you for financial help. I've had to decline a few friends after the first time I helped them out - simply because I'm not a fucking bank bro! I'm losing out on the interest earned when I loan you some money without an interest rate because you're a good friend/girl. My money - my decision how I give it away. No I'm not an asshole who won't help out. Fucking work hard if you've that much lack of money in your life. Don't be a fucking beggar. It's disgusting to realize how some friends turn beggars when they realize the dough you make.

              [–]cyborg_type_darkness 34 points35 points  (7 children)

              We went on a few dates.. she LITTERALLY was telling me.. "well I'm turning 30 soon so I don't have a lot of time."

              Followed by

              I told her I needed to go home but she literally** kept pouring me shot after shot after shot**...


              it was just mechanical as if she was a machine with an objective.


              Her: "But I was just on my period it's ok you don't need to use one I'm clean"..

              and then

              tried to convince me *not to wear a condom *

              With this evidence and your gut instinct, it's clear that she wanted to get pregnant by you and then getting child support from you. She wanted to make you drunk then get pregnant by you. That was her goal. Your instinct noticing her being a machine with an objective is great.

              her goal was to become pregnant then earn monthly payments by you. you told her you have a business and child support payments is around I think it was 20% of your income. If you earned 100k a year she would get 20k a year from you.

              She also is hitting the wall so she needs to lock in some sort of financial income. You played well by not fucking her. If you had a vasectomy you could laugh your ass off because she would definitely call you the next day saying: "I'm pregnant".

              Even if you did fuck her with a condom she would sperm jack you. To counter this have another condom, put horse radish sauce in it and take the condom with your sperm with you. Dispose of it yourself. When she injects herself with that sauce it will burn like hell.

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                [–]cyborg_type_darkness 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                Fucking her is playing with fire.

                [–]pmmedenver 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Oops I accidentally ripped the condom off and stuck your dick inside me

                And that, little timmy, is how you were born and where you get your hoofs from

                [–]dumnem 12 points13 points  (1 child)

                Even if you did fuck her with a condom she would sperm jack you. To counter this have another condom, put horse radish sauce in it and take the condom with your sperm with you. Dispose of it yourself. When she injects herself with that sauce it will burn like hell.

                That is amazing. Sweet, sweet karma.

                Then again she'd probably try to claim sexual assault or something.

                [–]tuckeran5607 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Can we talk about how she purposely tried to get him drunk to have sex with him.

                Doesn't that constitute as rape as drunk individuals can't consent.

                /S.... Who am I kidding.

                [–]OGlancellannister 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                Lol how does this woman force you to see her. She must be mighty strong. Your frame should be firmer so you can say no earlier. She sounded like a nutter from the start man. Cut your losses on these ones, it's just a poor investment with no upside and high risk.

                Her intensity with which she seems to be seeking a provider and use a child to achieve that is so transparent it almost seems fictional haha. I'm younger so I don't even see dating woman above the age of 30 as a viability but honestly 85-90% of women by that age are past their prime or just about to be. It's a wonderful gift when a woman gives you her best years. This woman has given those to other men, so why would you even bother? 32 isn't too old, why not aim a little lower in the age range?

                [–]dumnem 18 points19 points  (0 children)

                RED FLAG

                ABORT, ABORT, ABORT.


                [–]Ltactics1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                I know some of you fuckers here refuse to wear a condom. Let this be a reminder.

                [–]iliveinvietnam 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Get far away from her now. It's that simple. I have had several woman ask me to take off condoms. I hate condoms. They are horrible. It's tempting and I have given in before. I think there are reasonable times you can skip condoms like during oral. But otherwise, wrap it and if she is asking you to unwrap, bolt unless you are planning to have an exclusive, long term relationship with her. Move on from this girl while you still can.

                [–]1ozaku7 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Hilarious. Probably already preggers and needs to blame it on a dude that has no balls to go for a genetic test once the baby is born and NOT sign the birth certificate before that.

                Or she is just running out of time (She flatout told you, my god) and knows that if she wants to pop out 3 kids before they have a significant chance of becoming retards, it should all happen before 40, preferably asap.

                It's only when they start to panic because they realize that they get less attention than they were at 20.

                [–]Senior Endorsed ContributorRian_Stone 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                it's like she begged you to ghost her

                [–]Catcac 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                This story sounds super fake lol.

                [–]pm_me_chuck_hagel 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                I have my own business with a few employees, and I'm at my peak (I'm 32)

                Hopefully you can look back on that statement in a few years and realise that you were simply on a smaller peak while nowhere near the summit.

                Her: "But I was just on my period it's ok you don't need to use one

                Yeah, your little swimmers can survive inside her for up to 5 days. Considering ovulation happens 14 days after the first day of her period, her period being 5-7 days, that leaves just 2 "safe" days, assuming that ovulation is on schedule and not early. To me, her saying "I was just on my period" implies a window of several days and there is a very high chance you are not actually "safe" at all. (While keeping in mind that "safe" is used in the loosest possible sense of the word.)

                [–]Euphoricentia 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Haha, this was a very interesting read, when did the aliens finally capture you?

                [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Why would you give anything to someone who used to play games with you? Have you swallowed the pill? I can barely be civil to humble, feminine and sensitive girls these days let alone creatures like this.

                [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                That shit is creepy. She was trying to trap you.

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                [–]askmrcia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Because he used to like her. It was his college crush so she may still look good to him and its an ego boost for him to know that he finally got her.

                [–]Troll_Name 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Because they aren't actually at their peak. They're at the thinking-with-the-wrong-head part of their lives.

                [–]Mudpielol 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                she FORCED me to meet her later that day

                How exactly did she force you? Nevertheless, you made the right call. Plenty of fish in the sea, find another one that's this crazy.

                [–]gnarlin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                I have three words for you: vasectomy, vasectomy, vasectomy!

                [–]turboRock 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Any girl that tells you not to wear a condom is a girl that you should definitely wear a condom

                [–]e_z_p_z_ 1 point2 points  (6 children)

                these ages and this timeline don't add up whatsoever. you were i college 3-4 years ago and she was 25. now, 3-4 years later she is 30 and you are 32.

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                  [–]vaduz0001 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Yup.. I was kind of a fuck up early on and went to tech college very late. I believe her birthday is in November..

                  [–]Radkin007 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                  Good job dodging that bullet.

                  [–]imn0tg00d 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  This story made me cringe the entire time I read it. Such neediness.

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                  [–]QuietRulrOfEvrything 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  Just mentioned this to a buddy yesterday!

                  [–]X-Trem0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  of course, as far as they're reversible... what's the downside?

                  Now that finally I got where I wanted to be am I gonna let somebody else get a free ride just for a night?

                  [–]headgard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Anal. And then run like hell!

                  [–]CptNemo56 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  RUN. that bitch will find where you store the condoms and poke holes in them

                  [–]Troll_Name 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Women can't control their impulses. If you're seeing impulse signals, they tell the truth.

                  [–]SlyAM 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                  Jesus man.

                  I didn't think a women could be that desperate but this post obviously proved my mind wrong and reinforced that the wall is real. Good on you OP for being smart and not giving her what she wanted. Before you'd know it she'd be giving you the "I'm pregnant and you're the Daddy" talk, and that would've been a nightmare.

                  [–]PeanutFlavor 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  Oh, it's fucking real. And getting more so by the year. Think about how the US is right now.. society is clearly moving into a place where you're either a have or have not. You'd better be on a track to financial success/independence or be prepared to get left behind in a fierce manner. Women aren't fucking with you unless you legit have prospects-- so when they see a guy on the rise, they'll jump to his dick right away. They wanna be with a "have". It's absolutely nothing but a survival strategy in their case. The average female simply doesn't have the aggression to climb the REAL ladders life has. They get that shit on handicap mode.

                  [–]Troll_Name 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  This is normal.

                  Woman has recreational sex; woman takes a brief glance at consequences. Immediately a sacrificial lamb must be found to swallow those consequences. Don't be like sacrificial lambs.

                  [–]jamesso33 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  Why were you still in college at 27? Why wouldn't you bang her? This story doesn't make sense.

                  [–]vaduz0001 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  I didn't start college till I was in my late 20's

                  [–]1PantsonFire1234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  If a woman still lives with her parents at the age of 30 something is terribly wrong. All the hickups guys experience to get their own place are smoothed out for bitches. Hell the housing market with government regulations will actively cater to women and prioritizing them through clever ways.

                  [–]califriscon[🍰] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                  Moral of the story: Never stick your dick in crazy

                  [–]meaningintragedy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  I don't understand why you still wanted to have sex with her, even with a condom. At that point you should have just left because you don't know what kind of weird tricks she could do to impregnate herself.

                  [–]5t3fan0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  dude why the fuck do you even spend time with her? i understand she rejected you in the past but you must accept it and move on... ego kills man.

                  she FORCED me to meet her later that day

                  YOU forced yourself

                  like there was no passion.. it was just mechanical

                  i bet there wasn't any

                  "Are you afraid of getting me pregnant?"

                  she is afraid that you will NOT get her pregnant (unless she already is)

                  "But I was just on my period it's ok you don't need to use one I'm clean"


                  she was becoming visibly angry..she for several minutes tried to convince me not to wear a condom as if her life depended on it

                  more red flags! also you are correct since, in her eyes, her life did depend on this fuck (to get you in baby jail, that is)

                  dude, you clearly see the signs of CRAZY and INCOMINGWALL.... just listen to your gut and run the fuck out, unless you want an std and to be a divorce-rape statistic... i hope you didnt fuck her and left.

                  [–]Avyctes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  It sounds like in your heart you know what to do - get the hell out of Dodge. She's already laid out her agenda, semi-covertly, the way cunts communicate. Abundance mentality. There's other vag's out there and as you noted, you're 32. Live it up my friend!

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (10 children)

                  This story does make me wonder about the logic of The Wall.

                  Why would a woman necessarily wait until her 30s to get hitched and a stable man? Why not just grab an alpha man in your 20s while you're still good looking?

                  [–]askmrcia 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                  Why would a woman necessarily wait until her 30s to get hitched and a stable man? Why not just grab an alpha man in your 20s while you're still good looking?

                  This question can be answered in a few ways.

                  1. A girl may just want to play around in their 20s because being monogmous and building a family in your 20s is boring and lame

                  2. A lot of girls are trying to lock down Chad in their 20s, but Chad has a shit ton of options, is douche bag, or simply give no fucks in respecting a relationship so he pumps and dumps these women. I blame women for picking these sorts of guys, because they kick all the other guys to the curve.

                  3. A lot of women are working and going to college in their 20s. So no time to find a guy ti build a family with until they are established in their careers (early to mid 30s)

                  4. This goes back to point number one. Women now a days are trying to be men. They want to work like men and sleep around like men. I even hear a lot of women claim they have "game" because they can date a lot of guys. Some women refer to themselves as players.

                  Basically in a nutshell a lot of women today are fucked up in the head, being raised by single mothers who teaches them the wrong values and not to mention modern day feminism is teaching them the wrong values as well.

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                  I agree with all these points on a conceptual level. It does make you wonder though why society hasn't collapsed yet. This experiment has been running for multiple decades already... but anyone can see it will lead to wreckage down the road.

                  1. The hot chicks only bang Chad but can't lock him down. Settle for beta's in their 30s and divorce.
                  2. The Chads have no incentive to lock down until they feel like it. Then remarry in their 40s, 50s, 60s.
                  3. The beta males get nothing and know it, will start to refuse to play along.
                  4. The ugly chicks still get laid via tinder because Chad isn't picky for a quickie, so they're basically just hot chicks until they Wall.

                  Point being: if it goes on like this there will be no stable couples and stable families who can "support" the structure of society. Everything will just break down as nobody can get anything anymore.

                  I'm just surprised shit's still running as long as it has.

                  [–]BlakTheory 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                  The 20s are their play times, they won't waste it.

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  I find it hard to believe that women don't have the foresight of their impending Wall sentence. So it really doesn't make sense for them to put party time at such a premium...

                  [–]sweetleef 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                  Lack of foresight, inability to defer pleasure, self-centeredness, lack of perspective and education, constant false assurances from media, disdain and disrespect for others, etc., etc.

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Fair enough, they might just be that dumb lol

                  [–]Troll_Name 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  The answer: women price themselves out of the market.

                  If you're selling lemonade for five cents a glass, random passers-by will buy one. If you're selling lemonade for five dollars a glass, you're going to need a monumental marketing effort and a heavenly location.

                  [–]markstachow 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                  Would it have been okay if he had a vasectomy to fall into the web of deception?

                  [–]Troll_Name 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                  It isn't going to save you.

                  Crooked system means you don't have to be guilty to be punished. Keep in mind women aren't doing Sherlock Holmes stuff to find out who the father might be. They sniff around for money, point and scream, get rubber stamped by the family court which has an interest in making sure every single mommy gets a paycheck for nothing. This is how they cut welfare costs.

                  [–]Shaman6624 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Wait. How dit she FORCE you to have a date and take shots??

                  [–]EPArt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Its like she tried to rape you. Actually i guess she was either a divorce rape eventually or to trap you and get pregnant or like others here mentioned palm her baking bun of as yours. Shes like a sea of red flags

                  [–]Stink-Finger 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  I like you but this is way too early ....

                  You don't 'like' her, you've made that clear. From your narrative you can see right through this bitch.

                  What you like is that your unicorn has come home and is willing to spread her legs for you.

                  Fuck her to get it out of your system then forget her.

                  [–]logicalguest 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  So... did you do it at the end?

                  [–]vaduz0001 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Nope... I got the fuck out of there

                  [–]callmehey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Weeeell. I ain't saying she is a gold digger, but...

                  [–]neautika 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  She just wants your baby batter bro. Don't forget to check for needle holes when she starts offering to buy condoms. Lol

                  [–]1Goomich 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  After several more minutes

                  Pls tell, you have turned recording on your phone by then.

                  [–]NorrisChuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  31 here with a 21 year old cutie gf, who is a saint so far, if I can do better without a business, so can you.

                  [–]Kinbaku_enthusiast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  she FORCED me to meet her later that day

                  she literally kept pouring me shot after shot after shot

                  Heh, nobody forced you to do nothing. What did she, grab your finger in a secret martial arts hold? Did she hold a knife to your throat. You chose to go along with it.

                  [–]metallicdrama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  I have a friend that had a vasectomy a few years back. It's always hilarious when some sloot tries pinning a kid on him bc he blows it in everything that moves, and then laughs in their face and says must be some other sucker. They've never pushed farther than the phone call lol.

                  [–]verily_rp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Well done. You've dodged a bullet.

                  [–]ASPD_Account 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  I know that feel. Was with a girl, an uggo (don't know why, shit was weird, man, it's a whole story) and I caught her eyes dart to the condom with my product in it.

                  FUCKING NOPE.

                  Took it out of the trash and rinsed that fucker out. NAWALT though.

                  [–]Maelshevek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  Red Alert! Bail out now, ship's going down. Run, don't look back.

                  All people have agendas, but when it comes to kids and the rest of your life and hers, she could show, um, a little thought and responsibility before trying to get pregnant based on a highly emotional decision.

                  It's crap like this that defines the kind of women we don't want to be saddled with. Questions about your worth (hypergamy), relationship based on her own desperation, not living on her own at 30... Her life is going to be a ship tossed on the waves of chance--don't take the ride too!

                  Respect yourself and find someone who is independent financially, cares less about kids, and can think through life choices--your worth it.

                  [–]Thy_Nomad 8 points9 points  (15 children)

                  This is why I prefer the 2-5 range. They aren't so obsessed with themselves and actually develop personalities. Like a human.

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                    [–]redlurker9 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                    7+ have personalities as well, it's just more uncommon. I'd never EVER fuck a 2-5, even with a stolen dick.

                    [–]Phoenixtorment 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    2-5's get borderline obsessed with you. That's a no-go.

                    [–]Gaze73 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                    Raise your bar dude. I'm with you on the 5s, but anything below is just desperate. Think about it, a 4 is worse than average woman, that implies you're worse than the average non-TRP chump. I'd take a hand over a 4 any time.

                    [–]WAFC 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                    Just like to point out that if 80% of the women are going for (and having enough success to continue going for) the 15% alphas, then some of the alphas fuck below average women.

                    [–]Gaze73 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                    I don't know about that. If you're alpha and can choose from 2 to 10, why settle for a 2? Even for a ONS I see no point, there's always tomorrow. Just because a 2 wants him doesn't mean he'll have her.

                    Also, OP assumes the uglies have better personalities, but they often really don't because A) they have to deal with being ugly all their lives and B) They're probably ugly for a reason, e.g. they're lazy, fat and depressed, with a tough life or a chronic illness, etc. Better stay out of it. A 5-6 is a safe bet, not too ugly, not too conceited or demanding, and all around average with no major red flags.

                    [–]WAFC 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    Even some alphas go through slumps or get wasted and make a bad decision every now and then. Nobody's perfect all the time.

                    Also when I see ugly here I immediately assume skinny ugly. Fat women are automatic zeros, not twos.

                    [–]satanicpriest13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    I hope you kept walking out that door OP. Your business sounds sweet. Would be shame to give half of it away.

                    [–]1Entropy-7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Guess what: you are at your peak she is not. If you have some particular affection for this girl because you have a history, then maybe that is another story. However, as a 32 year old entrepreneur - IF you have not become a fat fuck - then you should be gaming girls 5 or 10 years younger.

                    [–]bearinfoxhole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    be careful for next few weeks. She might claim rape and come after you if she's very desperate.

                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    A cautionary tale for the ages. Well played.

                    [–]harden26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    She take my money. Well, Im in need. Yea she's a triflin, friend indeed. Oh shes a gold digger. Way over time. That digs on me.

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