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Field ReportHB9 called me out on checking her out in the gym. I maintained frame, flipped the pressure and banged her the same night. (self.TheRedPill)

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Preface:

This is some shit that I would never, ever, EVER. Be able to do without learning the advice and strategies of TRP and the manosphere in general. This goes to show just how effective this shit is. I am grateful for all of your help.

Because the conversations were not in english, some things sound different/better in the native language. So I've tried adjusting it a bit so that it makes more sense in english, while trying not to change too much to make it seem unnatural. Also, english is my third language, so beer bear bare with me

I was at the gym last night, was done with my main lifts so I went to the bathroom to drink some water and chill for a few mins. When I came back to do some accessory and prehab exercises I spot this HB9 (HB10 in my opinion) in the squat rack. I was literally in awe the first second that I saw her. She was doing front squats with 85 kg with really good form. So I looked at her a little bit too long (a mistake, I know). And she locked eyes with me through the mirror that was infront of her. I knew it would look 10x as worse if I looked away instantly in shame, so I just smiled and held eye contact for a second or two, and disengaged when she rolled her eyes.

My former BP self would cringe so hard thinking about this for the next 20-30 years. But I did not really care or think alot about the encounter and just carried on finishing my workout. While I was doing cable ab crunches I could see her walking up next to me in the corner of my eye. When I finished my set, stood up and turned towards here I was greeted with the bitchies bitch face I have ever seen on a woman. I greeted her back with a smirk and a "Hello".

"I just want to ask you to stop looking at me, it's making me uncomfortable and distracts me from my workout."

I smirked even more and replied with;

"How about you stop looking at me?"

I said this with a jokingly, but still assertive tone and body language. In a way so I didn't sound butthurt, but also didn't sound weak.

Her bitch face vanished from being so surprised, normally guys would probably just have put their heads down in shame and apologized to her multiple times, so she was not used to this.

"Excuse me?"

"You heard me. Stop looking at me. I just looked at you just because I was admiring your front squat technique and thinking about how to impliment it into my own. But the look you gave me in the mirror, jesus... It was the look."

Still smirking and giving off a vibe that I am joking, so that she understands I am just messing around and not taking her seriously, and not that I am some delusional socially inept neckbeard.

"The look?", she asks while laughing sarcasticly, adjusting her vibe to mine.

"The look." I repeat, but slower and even more emphasis on "the". While actually give her the look"

She laughs genuinely this time and slaps me playfully on my shoulder.

"You're such an asshole. Tihi"

I smile, as I know she just submitted to my frame.

We then start chatting a bit about training, life and other crap. Then she asks me to see my front squat to compare to hers. I tell her no. (I am not changing my entire weekly training routine up for a girl). I tell her I am going to go for a run after my training is finished, then I tell her to come with me so we can talk more about different training techniques. Key word, tell. I dont ask, as that will come across as weak. And she will have to decide whether or not to come with me, which gives her time for anti-slutdefense. She happily complies, which is not a surprise as she has already submitted to my frame, which I knew means it is probably not that hard to get her to submit to my lead aswell.

We both finish our workouts and we go out for a jog. We jog alongside the water for a while, and catch the early parts of the sunset.

~~I then tilt my head to the side like a puppy to show some vulnurability. "Such a romantic moment this is. Do you believe in love at first sight? Because I think I just found the one"~~ /s.

We chat a bit, and every time she stops to catch her breath (which was alot, she had really bad conditioning, probably her big ass slowing her down) I tease her for having bad conditioning. Very dangerous waters to tread I know, teasing a girl for her physical fitness. But she was not even close to being fat, and I kept the joking vibe so it was still well received.

"You're an asshole Tihi" she says again.

So I tactically start jogging towards my home, and I know my father is at work and my mother and sister are at my cousins place. My house is like 10 mins away from my gym, and its really big and nice. Not bragging here, I have not payed a dime for it, its my fathers. And he has taught me that the only people who take personal pride in, and brag about, another mans wealth are women and children. So im just saying objectively, that it is the kind of house that turns heads, because it is important to understanding my thoughtprocess in that moment.

This means that just wanting to seeing how the house looks like from the inside is enough of a reason to come inside. So it is very easy to create plausable denyability.

When we are next to my house, I go check the mailbox to indirectly show her that this is my house

"Wow... Is this really your house?"

"No, Im just a serial mailrobber."

Cringy joke that still got the laughs. Things are looking good for me I thought.

So I tell her about the home gym we are building, then I tell her to come and see how it is. Again, I dont ask her, because then she has to think for herself and decide. Which gives more room for ASD.

She follows my lead. While inside, after giving her a tour of the place and the soon to be home gym, I give her the look. I escalate with some kino and then "one thing lead to another" and Im banging her in the shower. (No, I didnt piss on her.)

Interpretation:

This just shows the importance of maintaining frame, and it shows that what is said matters alot less than how it is said. If I didnt flip the pressure with the right vibe, and said the exact same things word for word but without the "messing around" or joking vibe, she would just think I am socially inept and in denial that she caught me looking. Instead, just from a IDGAF attitude whilst maintaining a strong frame and not taking her seriously, I managed to completely change her from bitchy, to sarcastic/trying to play my game, to being mine.


[–]everydayathursday 341 points342 points  (12 children)

Good post. I definitely agree that frame is the most important aspect here. The frame is the foundation. And obviously SMV things like a nice house and good body are important. BUT let's not overlook the importance of logistics. You had her at your house in 10 minutes without much effort. Nobody was home, which was perfect. She didn't have to make any special time or travel commitments to get there. Your logistics were perfect. They allowed you to maintain the magic.

My take away here is that logistics can make or break you, even after SMV and frame have been established. Imagine if instead of a casual jog to your place it was a 40 minute drive. Would she come over? Maybe, but more likely she has somewhere to be, or doesn't feel comfortable with you yet (the jog bought you more time to build rapport). Then you could've been left with just her number, which could easily turn into a dead end for any number of reasons.

[–][deleted] 214 points215 points  (10 children)

You are right. Logistics is an overlooked factor of the game

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 68 points69 points  (9 children)

It really is. That's one of the reasons I want to get my own place without any roommates. I prefer being discreet and I know women do as well. It will be so much easier inviting women over when you have your own place and privacy to do what you want.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

This is why being single I refuse to live in the burbs instead of downtown - being walking distance to bars, restaurants, etc Is huge. Also not having roommates is absolutely fantastic as they can be complete game killers

[–]Project_Thor 47 points48 points  (4 children)

I'm building an adventure mobile gyspy van.

Pulling logistics...

'I've got Candy'

'Hop in for a bumpy ride'

'No worries, this isn't a shaggin wagon, we're just going for a cruise'

Any ideas?

[–]augizzz999 21 points22 points  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It had better be "Instagram perfect" enough to cause intrigue without inviting "shaggin wagon comparisons"

Don't call it a van. Call it a portable tiny house or some hipster shit like that. You'd crush it in Portland

[–]921ninja 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I'm trying to decide between renting my own 1 bed 1 bath apartment or renting a furnished master bedroom in a VERY luxurious house (intricate marble floors, golf front property 10 min from beach). Cost is the same and square footage for the room is greater but it's 15 min farther from where I'll be most days(school, work)

[–]Trooper_1868 2 points3 points  (1 child)

yeah my gym is a 15-20 min drive. No way in hell im having those kind of logistics. Also the girl to guy ratio in my gym is pathetic. I mentally call women fat in the gym, so I can focus on my workouts better :P

[–]921ninja 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea right now I can't pull someone like this at all. Moved out of my apartment and into my grandmother's recently to save as much money as possible till I move in a few months. Fucking off from the bay area to Hawaii

[–]DJ_Nade 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this. This is definitely true. Sometimes I get angry at myself for not "doing more" but in some instances you literally cannot go any further.

Given decent logistics, I can usually follow TRP well and get laid. Just saying hi to the girl from my class on the street - a name, maybe a number.

I guess my mindset needs to then change to: the best outcome for your given logistics. You simply can't aim for the top in every situation.

[–]Locust- 105 points106 points  (22 children)

"How about you stop looking at me?"

I still struggle applying pressure flips. This is a really good example and I think it was a really good way to handle the shit test. Good one man.

[–]Kryptic_Knight 56 points57 points  (17 children)

They're easy once you get used to doing them in general. Amongst your friends and family...after that you'll realize you're doing them out of natural response.

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (16 children)

I can attest to that 100%. Shit like pressure flips, AA and AM I have internalized through applying first with my friends and family as banter, then trying it out with women. It makes it much more natural

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I went through a bout of depression about 6 months ago (when I was still fat and super blue pilled), where I just had a "fuck everything" phase and just flat out gave up on trying to get women, to the point where I stopped giving a fuck and treated them exactly like I'd treat my friends. I think in my mind I just assumed none of them would want anything to do with me so my bluepill instincts didn't kick in. I'd give them so much shit, poke fun at them, and tell them straight up if they were pissing me off (in a half joking, sarcastic way, because thats just how I am). Because of that I all of a sudden got alot of positive reactions from women, even though I was physically unattractive, it gave me a chance to employ my funnyness (when you are unattractive for your entire life you tend to have to make up for it with personality) and actually build good rapport with alot of the women in my social circle.

So like a week into this phase, after having zero success with women, I had multiple girls who previously acted like I was invisible or "just friends" actively hit on me and I couldn't understand why. Queue me discovering this community about a month later and learning that I was exhibiting alpha traits without thinking about that women responded well to.

So thats the story about how I inadvertently redpilled myself as a result of my depression.

[–]Locust- 6 points7 points  (11 children)

AA is extremely easy to me: I LOVE it and I find it very easy to use, really effective and useful to break the ice. I learned to use AM at a decent level quite fast since I found it a really interesting approach, but I never used pressure flips even though I recognize their potential. I will try using them more often with friends too and see if I can get better. Thanks for the tip guys.

[–]TRPmmm 7 points8 points  (8 children)

Can you explain what AA and AM means? I couldn't find them in the glossary.

[–]1TheProphetPhysiquiel 19 points20 points  (1 child)

AA means Agree and Amplify, for example "you're too short" "I know, I legally have to ride in a car seat any time I drive anywhere"

I'm not sure what AM means

[–]BigPimpin91 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Agree and amplify. Amused mastery.

[–]RoTDDos 1 point2 points  (2 children)

whats the definition of amused mastery it doesnt say it in the dictionary

[–]ThrowFader 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly how it sounds. You act in a manner that indicates your total control of the situation, acting slightly amused.

Basically how you act when you know your coming away with a W.

For example you used amused mastery on babies when they say some stupid shit. You laugh and correct them.

Pretty much that.

[–]RoTDDos 0 points1 point  (1 child)

whats the definition of amused mastery? dictionary doesnt say that

[–]Locust- 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There is a great definition taken from TheRationalMale by Rollo Tomassi (that you should definitely check out in case you didn't yet):

"A presence of Amused Mastery puts you into a position of maturity while still remaining playfully approachable and forcing her to qualify to you by acknowledging your mastery of her (really all women by association). An attitude of Amused Mastery implies to a woman that by virtue of your maturity and/or authority you’ve “seen it all before”, you already know what women mean when they say or do what she is, and it’s amusing to you. You’ll play along, but only so far as to cleverly poke fun at her attempts to get you to qualify to her. It means you never take her seriously, like a bratty younger sister, but also with the presence of mind of a senior Alpha male who knows her game before she plays it.

[...]

Amused Mastery is a form of social dominance. That sense of knowing the answer before the question is asked, but still giving the answer with a smirk and is a very effective form of demonstrating higher value."

[–]relativebeingused 4 points5 points  (2 children)

With that dash in your name I was like, "why is everyone downvoting this guy?" and reread your post. facepalm

[–]Locust- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I added that dash because I don't like numbers in usernames and I wanted something that goes almost unnoticed. Guess it works lol

[–]deville05 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hahahaha this reminds of Steve carell flirting for the first time in the 40 year old virgin

[–]FLsurveyor561 97 points98 points  (0 children)

You didn't piss on her? Fucking beta

[–]1empatheticapathetic 111 points112 points  (40 children)

Good job nigga. Funny and chilled post.

But the question is why didn't she instantly consider you BB material once you showed her the mansion?

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 86 points87 points  (11 children)

Because girls aren't like programmed robots that follow if/then logic wherence if they see a nice house they think "initiate dry pussy sequence, let's grab us a meal ticket." Girls are dumb, some understand how to use their pussy as bait, some just wanna sleep around with hot rich guys and then wonder afterwards why those guys don't want to be their boo. They understand the game on an instinctual level, but they don't play it very well.

I have a pretty posh apartment and maybe 1 out of 5 chicks I bring back will get LMR from just seeing that I'm actual not a total douchebag and I actually have a pretty good life that she could leech off of. They follow their hormones and rationalize it later.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 19 points20 points  (10 children)

Fair enough bro. But the first thing us newbies are supposed to learn here is that theoretically girls can and will switch off the pussy supply the moment the bux is introduced. There's been plenty of field reports/examples posted to illustrate so as well. Just so we know and do understand they can and tend to operate like a robot. They essentially put you into an alpha or beta category based on your behaviour, they're shallow and evaluate you an SMV based formula. They are fucking robots as far as we're concerned.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThotwrecker 7 points8 points  (5 children)

They do that, but they don't do it logically or intelligently - they do it based on their emotions. They aren't disciplined - they will know they should not eat the cookie, but they eat the fucking cookie. Same principle - they will put out because they are horny even when their natural programming is telling them to hold off because he's loaded.

Especially younger girls. Most younger girls especially those from upper middle class homes that spend 500 bucks a month of makeup while their daddy pays the bills, they don't need your bucks. It's purely fun, they just want to fun and danger, they haven't started to look for security yet.

My point is that when you ask "but why didn't she immediately consider you BB material when she saw your house" that shows a very limited view of women. It's important to understand they do dumb emotional shit, and that's basically sexual strategy 101 to fuck them. If they were logical, they'd never put out before some commitment came in, and they wouldn't do shit like put out on the first date after seeing he's got a posh crib. But they do, all the fucking time. Beta bucks LMR is just a type of resistance. She does classify men as alpha and beta, but she doesn't actually do that very well - she does it based off of emotional responses and status symbols, but by thinking through "hmm he makes X per year, has a strong jawbone, hmmm that's about a 8, now we scale it up for providership capabilities and we want to wait 2.8 dates to put out". You are giving women way too much credit, they are intelligent enough to have a vague idea of what they are supposed to do, but they do the exact opposite at least 50% of the time.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Probably down to the fact I have never been the AF. Not my experience.

[–]ThrowFader 2 points3 points  (3 children)

so go be that then

you can do it bro

[–]1empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm working on it. Never said I wasn't. Cheers

[–]RedPilledGodEmperor 6 points7 points  (3 children)

That's not always the case. Look at the male celebrities who women know are rich and fuck their brains out. Having money can definitely be a turn on for women

[–]1empatheticapathetic 9 points10 points  (1 child)

The attainability factor is the difference in considering them bux or not. They're not locking down the celebrity. They might lock down the rich local gym goer though.

[–]redpillersinparis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's because they are celebrities. Social status is attractive to women.

[–]RedPiller4 28 points29 points  (25 children)

Huh? Tell me this is a joke. One can easily tell from the way he described the entire interaction that she saw him in an Alpha light.

Going to the gym, spitting out good game, leading like a man AND living in a good house? Brother, that is the farthest thing from BB.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 2 points3 points  (24 children)

Lurk more bro.

The issue isn't the 'beta' part, it's the 'bucks' part. She'll give it up for the broke alpha, but a rich alpha? All she has is her pussy for leverage at this point. She can't give it up so easily.

[–]HS-Thompson 58 points59 points  (17 children)

I read this shit on TRP all the time, and people who say it are fucking idiots. Do you really think women are less likely to fuck when they find out you're rich? I mean actually? Have you ever actually hung out extensively with alphas that are actually rich? They get whatever the fuck they want.

The whole beta bucks thing is about making sure some middle class money and a decent job isn't the only thing you have to offer. When it is you'll be taken advantage of. But if you're already an alpha and she sees you're actually rich it doesn't make you less sexually attractive suddenly, that's just a misunderstanding of the beta bucks concept.

[–]1mental_models 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yup... There's a crowd on TRP who are either misguided, or resentful/envious of people who can wield the power of money. That crowd considers any use of status or appearance of wealth to be beta. The beta bucks shit is meant for guys who give gifts and money to be a beta-orbiter, or even for guys who overpay the market value to get occasional pussy. These are guys who are patsys or suckers, when looked at objectively. If some TRP guy is 5'6", dresses well, and says he's a lawyer, and he picks up the girl in a new bmw, that doesn't make him betabucks. Yet, there is a vocal crowd here who will resent him.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 2 points3 points  (11 children)

Don't really know how to respond. I have experience of beta bux (brother, friends). But I have no experience of alpha bux, barely any experience with alpha dudes or women as it is.

The premise makes sense along the same lines it works from a beta bux context. If she thinks she has a shot at tying him down (no experience of his female abundance yet), why wouldn't she use her pussy as leverage? If she knows he isn't going to play ball, has experienced his abundance and knows he isn't going to waste time on her because she hasn't successfully got his attention as a potential unicorn, then yeah she has nothing to lose/gain anymore in the long term other than his dick.

[–]haneybird 12 points13 points  (5 children)

You aren't getting this.

She was already going to fuck him before she saw the house. That's why she was at the house to begin with. Women don't follow strangers on a jog like a lost puppy unless they are already interested.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Lol i get that. It wouldn't be an alpha bux situation if she wasn't going to fuck him.

The difference is can she use him for resources and also fuck him?

[–]haneybird 6 points7 points  (3 children)

As OP stated elsewhere in the thread she is the wrong age. Daddy is still paying her bills so she is just looking for fun.

You are focusing on something that is not an issue until a certain point in life which a good portion of women at a gym are not at. Particularly not most women that are going home with a dude that is young enough to still live at his parent's house without it being weird.

A woman that wants to settle down and have kids before her ovaries wear out is looking for a provider. A twenty year old whose bills are paid by her parents is looking for orgasms.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah i realised that once it was clarified by OP elsewhere in the thread as you mentioned, and posted saying so. But that doesn't change anything else i've said here if and when it's relevant.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is absolutely true and why I wish age was required in these posts. Money and wealth mean absolutely fucking nothing to anyone until maybe about the mid 20s and onward

[–]Speedracer1111 1 points1 points [recovered]

Can debate the alpha/beta all you want, missing a piece of the puzzle.

A HB9/10 likely has a beta bucks boyfriend or husband. She went for a jog with him to get laid. Later, when she wants to branch swing, then the money will be relevant.

[–]redpillersinparis 0 points1 point  (3 children)

That's not what the above comment said. /u/empatheticapathetic meant that if she sees he has money, she will want a real long term relationship. If she wants a long term relationship, she'll try to not give up sex so easily and try to hook the guy first if she's smart.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (2 children)

No one will listen to me bro :(

[–]redpillersinparis 3 points4 points  (1 child)

This is generally how it is with people (and reddit). They don't see the exact argument in cold logic, they interpret your general motive (doesn't matter if you don't have one) based on the context and the overall direction of your argument and see how it fits with what they want to think. If it doesn't match, they isolate points from what you said and attack them + attacking your general motive.

Never expect a hard logic (like maths) argument when talking with a group of people, and rarely with individuals.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a shame. TRP didn't used to be so reactionary. And these are it's own ideas.

[–]RedPiller4 1 points1 points [recovered]

Valid point. Quick question then.

Assuming she didn't put out, what strategy would she have employed to snare our rich Alpha?

And her trump card being her pussy, wouldn't giving it to the alpha be more advantageous for her in the sense that she thinks it's a potential trade for all he has to offer ?

Legit curious questions here.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I am not rich yet though, my parents are. Isnt that a factor? Plus she is the age were she is riding the CC and doesnt need a BB yet, as her daddy already supports her.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Once she's given her pussy to him, the game is over.

She wants to hold off as long as possible without losing him, to ensure maximum emotional investment in her. She will pretend to be chaste. She will use every emotional manipulation technique she's learned up until that point to convince him she is his unicorn.

[–]NGEFan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She probably did, the rest was probably him doing more than he needed to.

[–]relativebeingused 50 points51 points  (7 children)

Elaine: I was working out at the gym and I saw this guy giving me the look in the mirror.

Jerry: The look?

Elaine: Yeah. The look.

Jerry: He gave you the look in the mirror?

Elaine: Yeah and then he wouldn't stop.

Jerry: Oh, you can't keep giving the look. You gotta stop the look.

Elaine: That's what I'm saying.

Jerry: So what did you do?

Elaine: Well, after I was done I went over to talk to him.

Jerry: About the look?

Elaine: About the look. And he says I was the one who gave him the look. What do you think of that?

Jerry: Get outta here!

Elaine: I'm serious. He accused me of giving him the look.

Jerry: He accused you?

Elaine: Yeah! Can you believe this guy?

*Kramer bursts in through the front door*

[–]imbeciI 3 points4 points  (1 child)

George: JERRY! JERRY! YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE THIS! YOU. WILL. NOT. BELIEVE THIS! I've been living a lie my whole life Jerry. Every decision that I've made, every human interaction that I've had was deemed to fail the very instant my brain processed it. Every woman that I've met has seen my true self Jerry. BUT NOT ANYMORE! I KNOW THE TRUTH JERRY! I discovered Red Pill. I will have the power in the palm of my hand to make any woman in the world do whatever I please. Whatever desire my mind holds. Whatever pleasure my heart yearns.

Jerry: But you know you have to go to a gym and lift weights, don't you?

George: ...

[–]TaylorWolf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LoL that sounds more like Rick talking to Morty

[–]Hillarysdilddo_2016 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Holy shit this is perfect.

I never knew Seinfeld himself visited TRP!

[–]Trooper_1868 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought the Kool-Aid guy would bust in aahaha

[–]tyrryt 230 points231 points  (44 children)

LOL.

A super hot woman, doing front squats, in a rack, with good form, by herself, with 85kg - 187 lb?

The number of women in whatever country you're pretending to be from who can, or would want to, front squat 187 lb is in the single digits - and the number of those who are anywhere close to hb10 is precisely zero.

You're either an adolescent with unrealistic expectations, or a neckbeard who's never set foot in a gym. Try more research before your next fantasy bullshit post.

[–]_TheRP 101 points102 points  (3 children)

Yeah now that I think about it, you're right.

I go to a big gym, with some legitimate monsters - both male and female pro body builders. I can think of 3 women I've seen squat near 200 pounds ATG, and yeah... They are not hot.

This is starting to sound like some high school kids masturbatory fantasy.

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Agree. The ones who I have seen pushing near-man level weights look like you can suit them up in football pads and theyll run for the first down against Alabama on a 4th &1.

[–]Bambam60 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Audibly chuckled brother. Got my upvote...

RTR

[–]plainposter 4 points5 points  (0 children)

damn... did we all just get played?

[–]xKalista 23 points24 points  (6 children)

I'm a male going to the gym for 2 years and I can attest. 85 kg its pretty fucking huge
EDIT: I meant it's huge for a woman, for a man its good bt its not huge

[–]_BITCHES_LOVE_ME_ 1 points1 points [recovered]

I have busted knees, train legs at most once a week and have horrible genetics and I can front squat 85 and that's a lot more than I weigh too. It's not much, nor would I say it's unattainable for a chick that actually lifts and doesn't just show off in the mirrors.

[–]2CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Pro tip : Look into box squats if you got bad knees

[–]FractalNerve 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I never regularly front-squat, my form is not good enough to do so. But I talked to a hottie who does 70Kg, albeit with insane/almost cruel push by their friend. She also did fine 90Kg back squats last time with me. I can only squat up to 130Kg, however with bad form probably. So, 85Kg sounds unrealistic in my eyes. And this girl even beats me at 30min extreme ab exercises, after I've done a full workout, that's just killing me. I know only a few able to push themselves forward to maintain a strong form during my circle training, I usually near or go to exhaustion.

Edit: 60-70Kg front-squats are possible to do by hotties. Never seen any girl do more though.

[–]FateBender 31 points32 points  (3 children)

First thing that caught my eye as well lol. Not accusing OP of bullshiting, but this reads like bullshit.

I'm in my early twenties now. I haven't been lifting as much and as hard lately, but when I was 19, for a short period of time I was fucking huge because I didn't care about bodyfat, ate everything in sight and focused solely on strength and size. I was 122 freaking killograms (6ft3) and the best I could do was 140 killograms for 8 reps(which isn't impressive, but still). I tried front squats for a while and could barely do 80 kilograms for 8.

No way in fucking hell a chick does 85kg of front squats with proper form lol.

If she does, as you said she probably will look like something you wouldn't wanna touch with a 6 feet totem pole; let alone an HB9/10.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 12 points13 points  (1 child)

There's an entire community out there on instagram of hot bitches lifting heavy fucking weights. They appear in my discovery tab all the time. Do you know how many people exist in the world out there? And how big/fashionable being healthy is at the moment? I'm sure its possible OPs story is true.

Even if it isn't, he doesn't get to post a bullshit story without outlining the importance of the TRP logic behind his lay. He talked about frame and shit tests and it was a pretty standard fare of a story; he fucked her. Woop de doo.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I've seen a fairly normal woman front squat 90kg ATG. She looked fit but otherwise wasn't muscle-bound. She had a spotter for 90kg but she did it for reps without any help from the spotter.

[–]tableman 6 points7 points  (0 children)

>A super hot woman, doing front squats, in a rack, with good form, by herself, with 85kg - 187 lb?

That's like 1-2 years of training. It's possible.

[–]Popular-Culture 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Posts like OPs are why I stopped reading this subreddit 6 months ago and started reading Rollo and other manosphere authors instead. This might be the most cringeworthy, fake story I've ever seen on here.

[–]Aarxnw 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Is there a sub for good material by people such as Rollo or do you just read the manosphere, cause I too am sick of some of the dumb, fake bullshit on this sub.

[–]slumdog-millionaire 2 points3 points  (1 child)

if you look at the guys post history I think he has a post where he refers to himself as a minor so yea, I'm with you on this one, always sad to see how many of the guys here believe it, just goes to show you how many men will always be beta no matter what

[–]acetylcysteine 4 points5 points  (9 children)

I tend to agree with you. There are attractive weightlifters though lifting that weight including some crossfitters, some powerlifters, but doubtfully as perfect as he described.

Quick example:

http://instagram.com/mattiecakesssss

[–]1RPAlternate42 30 points31 points  (7 children)

She does Oly Lifting and Guarnateed she can pull, clean, and snatch more weight than 90% of the guys in here: it's an explosive technique and the training focuses on that. I doubt she can do 85kg for reps on a front squat, nor do I think she ever does for more than 5 at a time.

OP described an insanely hot girl doing 85kg front squats and pausing, while doing them, long enough to notice him and roll her eyes.

Even when I'm doing 85kg as a ramp up on my back squat I have little-to-no attention on my surroundings, let alone enough focus to see someone's eyes.

So we have this super jacked smoke show doing front squats and then jogging off into nowhere to OP's house to fuck in the shower.

Fuck the weight questions. Here's what the people really want to know:

Did OP and HB9-SJSS jog back to the gym afterwards? Both cars (hers and his) were there. Did she jog back alone and he had mommy drop him off to get his car?

Here's what I think happened:

OP jacked off into a sock, took a shower and never went to the gym.

The shower part is very possibly made up too.

[–]HelpMeFindNewGlasses 7 points8 points  (1 child)

[–]_TheRP 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That girl is built like a linebacker. That's not a HB9 in my book.

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I seriously have a hard time telling bullshit stories from the truth on TRP, but this one really just jumps out to me as bullshit.

He thinks 1 pressure flip is enough to override rolled eyes from eye contact. Women who roll their eyes are not DTF one bit.. you are essentially in creeper territory. Even betas rarely get the rolled eyes.

P.S. Girls also wouldnt approach someone they rolled their eyes too. They 99% of the time wouldnt even approach Chad who eye fucked her, girls only put themselves in the vicinity. Girls also avoid confrontation. Literally on top of all of this.. an HB9-10. Fuck no.

[–]askmrcia 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I swear this reads like some plot from a porno.

Honestly would not doubt for a second that is where OP pulled this story from. Had he said HB5 I may believe the story, but I will still have some doubt.

I mean he is bragging about getting a teenage supermodel hb10 world-class powerlifter from the gym to his house in a shower in one day. C'mon

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is exactly what I did. Never said she was an HB10, she was an HB9 (IMO.) And 85 kg front squat is not a world class powerlifter. You are just jealous and wish you could do what I did.

[–]acetylcysteine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well I don't disagree what OP did, you are clearly extremely uneducated on the science of weightlifting. Olympic lifters are some of the strongest lifters out there. She can squat 315lbs for an easy 5, just look up her instagram, so 87kgs is a cake walk for her.

Knowing the stories guys make up in this subreddit she can prolly outlift 99% here.

[–]rorrr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She's a 6, maybe a 7 with makeup on.

[–]HelpMeFindNewGlasses 7 points8 points  (2 children)

If you can't do it, doesn't mean a girl can't.

[–]tyrryt 11 points12 points  (1 child)

You sound like a tough guy.

Some girls can do it, but it'd require a girl who's very dedicated to strength development - a competitive olympic lifter, powerlifter, maybe a roided bodybuilder. They exist, but there are very, very few of them, and they sure aren't hb10 gym bunnies.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I dont know what to tell you, she was infact squatting 85 kg with good form. She was a powerlifter, hence the bad conditioning. If you dont want to believe me that is fine

[–]internet_badass_here 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are plenty of women that can put up that kind of weight. One time I saw one of the female trainers at my last gym squatting 245 lbs (110 kg), all the way down for reps. She had a huuuge delicious looking ass, and she wasn't some 300 lb she-beast. She was built and most definitely on some gear but still really fucking hot.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also how'd she know his name?

[–]Gr0o0vy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

maybe he landed Gabi Garcia? ;D

[–]_TheRP 55 points56 points  (21 children)

I think you left out some important bits -

1) You've talked to her before.

2) You're a kid, she's a kid.

3) I'm guessing you go to school together.

You didn't just roll into the gym and fuck some hotty you've never seen before. Most of what you did here isn't going to work on an absolute stranger.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (14 children)

1) No.

2) Yes.

3) Yes.

I did just roll into the gym and fuck some hotty I've never talked to before.

[–]refusewool 18 points19 points  (9 children)

So she is just a kid but was front squatting 85kg with perfect form? The story unravels further...

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (8 children)

Its all relative, she is a senior in highschool. I dont understand you guys, If this was a fake FR dont you think I would change the weight she was squatting into a number that wouldn't raise suspicion? She front squatted 85 kg. It was impressive. I dont know what else to tell you. And it was not perfect form, it was slightly below paralell, while keeping her chest up. Since most girls at my gym are just cardio bunnies that half squat, I felt that she had really good form, relatively speaking

[–]_TheRP 21 points22 points  (3 children)

OK, semantics. You knew her, she knew you.

This isn't what you made it out to be in your OP at all.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I didnt know her though. We go to the same highschool, but I have never talked to her before

[–]hjkl4life 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Eh, his points about frame still stand.

[–]11-Eleven-11 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Is this the setup to a porno?

If it's true, well done.

If it's not true, pretty cliche bro.

[–]tyrryt 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Later, OP's stepmom came home early and caught them in the shower....

Despite being a teenage supermodel world-class powerlifter, the stepmom realized hb10 was unexperienced in romance, and had to step in to teach her the ways of love.....

[–]anon2777 13 points14 points  (2 children)

this is so fucking masturbatory it is a joke. it's like a copy and paste of cliche bs people say on this sub this is fucking ridiculous

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Masturbatory? What does that even mean? I applied tactics that are discussed on this sub, I dont know what you mean with copy paste

[–]goldaxis 11 points12 points  (4 children)

...yeah no. That is ALOT of weight for a girl to squat. That’s like me squatting 315, which I’ve done, but not with a casual eye roll. I usually train with 185 on the bar to focus on form, and it still gets tough quick. No way some gym bunny is pushing that.

[–]sithlordomega 19 points20 points  (1 child)

That's because this story is bullshit haha

[–]afkb39sdfb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That woman's name: Alberta Einstein

[–]WHITE_BMW_ 1 points1 points [recovered]

Lmao this is the fakest shit I’ve ever read.

Let me get this straight- You’re working out at the gym, notice a girl, make small talk, go on a jog with her, convince her to jog to your enormous house, where you live with your father, mother, and sister, all of whom are conveniently gone. Father is working into the night? (You mentioned that it was sunset at the beginning of your jog) and then bang bee in the shower.

And all you fucks believe this and upvote it. You guys are all delusional.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're working out at the gym, notice a girl

Yes

make small talk

It was more than small talk, reread.

Convince her to jog to your enormous house

A). I didnt convince her, I started jogging in the direction of my house, tactically, without telling her. B) it is not enormous, just relatively big. Search for "swedish houses, middleclass" and you will understand that the standards for what constitutes a big and flashy house here in Sweden is lower than in the US. Houses are very expensive here.

Father is working into the night?

Again, I live in Sweden, this time a year sun sets very early (around 4-5 PM). And yes, the rest of my family was "conveniently" at my cousins house, which is like 2km from our house where we visit atleast once a week or so.

Anything else?

[–]eightzzzzzzzz 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I went deep into the castle and slew the dragon... oh wait this isn't the LARP subreddit?

[–]deville05 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Why do stories like this always have an HB9? Im yet to read a story with an HB6. I'd believe a story with an HB6

[–]askmrcia 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Because guys on here have a huge ego boost.

HB9 sounds a lot better then hb6. But HB6 is still pretty average/attractive. Guys on here are calling any girl with a decent face and not fat a hb9+. Its ridiculous, but whatever.

[–]ThrowFader 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I automatically subtract two from each post I see here.

If they say hb10 or some bullshit like that its definitely a 7 or 8 at best. Hb8 is like a 6. Hb7 a five.

Real HB9s and 10s are paid huge money for their looks/attractiveness. That rules out most people except celebrities.

8/9 are the cutest/hottest people you have ever seen in real life.

7 is like the cutest girls in your friend circle.

6 is like an above average cute girl who you would fuck but maybe not brag about.

5 is meh. Not bad, but not too good either. A ONS maybe.

4 average ugly girl. 3 seriously ugly. Vomit inducing. 2 physical defect. 1 UGLIEST SHIT ALIVE

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

HB6 is not that impressive, so it doesnt qualify for a FR

[–]deville05 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Naah they do. Not everybody cares about how hot you think the girl was. Every girl thinks she is a 9 anyways so the technique and frame holding still applies.

[–]cashmoney_x 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Why would she ask you to stop looking at her when you already had?

PLOTHOLE.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its not a plothole when it is what actually happened. The cable machine is close to the squatrack, so Im guessing she felt that I was looking at her some more

[–]ReinhardVonLoengram 2 points3 points  (1 child)

"When I came back to do some accessory and prehab exercises I spot this HB9 (HB10 in my opinion)"

I have no idea why people let status quo perception affect their own. If she's a 10 to you, she's a 10. Extremely fit girls are absolutely gross to me and i prefer a little pooch. IDGAF.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its just that people here say that HB10s dont objectively exist, its just your personal preference

[–]the_one_tony_stark 2 points3 points  (2 children)

"bare with me" means "get naked with me"

"bear with me" means "endure this difficulty with me"

As usual for a non-native english speaker, you're english is actually quite good.

[–]timowens862 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You played this Absolutely perfect congratulations my man

[–]1RPAlternate42 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No, I didnt piss on her.

Then you have just told us a story of failure.

Pack it in boys, no piss stories here.

[–]iamadrunk_scumbag 3 points4 points  (1 child)

So after this you ran home to type up this story for us to praise you? .. jesus

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Its called a field report. It's educational

[–]Magnum256 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Can someone elaborate on what he means by "tell her" not "ask her", I'm going through the phrasings in my head and pretty much any wording is still an ask:

You should run with me

Lets run together

I run after my workout, we can both go and continue talking

etc. in which case she can always just answer, "oh I already have plans" or "I already went for my run" or whatever she wants to say. I mean you're not going to say "you must run with me now!" because obviously that's just weird and makes you seem autistic.

Maybe there's a simple way of telling instead of asking and I'm either too tired or stupid to think of the phrasing, but I'm coming up blank right now.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lets run together

You should come with me

Come with me

These are all statements, not questions. They all work in varying degrees depending on the situation, what the action is, and your tone. She can still say "No I have plans" or something like that obviously, but there is still a lot bigger chance she will agree and follow your lead compared to if you said:

"Would you like to come with me?"

That just sounds weak, and to agree to it she will have to say "Yes, I would like to come with you". Which takes away alot of the plausable denyability and "one thing led to another"/"It just happened" justifications.

If you just tell her "Come with me", if she wants to follow your lead she will just have to say "Ok." So even if in both scenarious she wants to folloe your lead, there is much less 'friction' and if you tell her as opposed to asking her. Telling her is also being assertive, which amplifies her attraction for you.

Now before you want to lead women, you will jave to have created some kind of attraction and established your frame. Otherwise they wont follow. (This is just common sense, if some neckbeard that she isnt attracted to comes and tells her to come with him he will get slapped.) I hope this helped, I am still a student, so this is just as far as I know. Im sure some EC or SC can chime in with more details.

[–]catshit69 1 point2 points  (2 children)

No, I didn't piss on her

Why did you feel the need to include this?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Last time I brought a girl to the shower I pissed on her. Look at my last few posts

[–]catshit69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, can't argue with that

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (7 children)

I love this post a lot, one of the best and most believable field reports I have seen in a long time. It reminds me of when I was in the intermediate stages of learning game. I would mix in some mistakes with some advanced moves (sometimes by accident) and I would get mixed results. So let me break this down some more:

  • "So I looked at her a little bit too long (a mistake, I know).

NO! It was not a mistake, you acted exactly the way an alpha acts. When an alpha sees a woman he wants to fuck he looks her right in the eye, and probably stares rght at her tits in a very obvious and unapologetic way.

  • "I knew it would look 10x as worse if I looked away instantly in shame, so I just smiled and held eye contact for a second or two"

This is the exact right move. Don't break eye contact or act ashamed. Mike Tyson once said that he either won or lost every fight he ever had in the stare down. She must know that she is the prey, she has only hatred and contempt for men who are afraid of her.

  • "The look." I repeat, but slower and even more emphasis on "the". While actually give her the look"

At this point she is as deep in your frame as you are about to be in her lady holes in a few hours. You pressure flipped her and dragged her into your world. You also made all of this look like it was HER who initiated, therefore it was all her idea. You effectively planted a thought in her head and made her think it was her own. Whether you realised it or not at the time, you executed a masterstroke and very advanced piece of ultra tight game. All in a single perfect sentence.

This is now part of you, you can do this shit again and again now forever. How does that make you feel OP? Powerful, damn straight, you now have a master key to the pussy paradise playground to ultra hot women. Trust me, they can now smell on you that you have been with their kind. You have a VIP pass into the special world of HB9s.

  • " I tease her for having bad conditioning. Very dangerous waters to tread I know"

NO! Absolutely not! Teasing is an absolutely vital and important part of any advanced player's repertoire. Use it liberally and never be afraid. Teasing her is covered in the Book of Pook and in many of our own EC top level posts. Teasing means you treat her like a person, not a princess. Teasing means you do not put pussy in the pedestal. Teasing is what 5 year old boys do to 5 year old girls and boys alike. It means you are treating her like one of your own, you tease her like you would your bros. At this point she is so going to fuck you. You practically would have had to fight her off, or she would have needed to be hit by a bus for this not to happen.

  • "I tell her to come and see how it is."

Thats right! Alphas give ORDERS and COMMANDS, they do not beg, they do not supplicate. Even though you think you were in dangerous waters a few times, you were DOMINATING this situation from move number 1. It was just the vestige of blue pill and beta conditioning in your mind that made you worry. Slay that blue pill cowardly voice inside of you. Slay that beta that dries up vaginas, be proud of your masculinity.

OP you did not make a single wrong or risky move in this whole interaction. The whole field report reads like a masterclass in game and seduction. You just need to make sure all of your interactions with women are like this from now on and you can seriously take your pick of women from now until eternity.

[–]Cool_Mob 1 points1 points [recovered]

The amount of incels downvoting this post and chatting shit in here whilst they can't get their virginass outta the house is pathetic.

Need some clearup.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes. They are saying a HB9 frontsquatting 85 kg makes my story bullshit. I dont know what to say because that is exactly what happened

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I am getting the mods active on this. There is going to be a massive cull in here soon.

[–]WolfofAnarchy 5 points6 points  (2 children)

No, you're downvoted because you're overanalyzing everything

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Alternatively I know my stuff very well.

[–]indivisibleremainder 2 points3 points  (1 child)

nice post but i'm just lol'ing at the "No, I didnt piss on her."

[–]Datebayoo 3 points4 points  (2 children)

gaming 9/10 execution 9/10 finishing 8/10 You schould've pissed on her in the shower, to show dominance.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You schould've pissed on her in the shower, to show dominance

This is the key to becoming a true slayer.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (5 children)

Fuck off back to incels you degenerate cunt

[–]aswaran2132 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It really shouldn't be that surprising to you that people think this story is BS, because it most likely is.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

The only guys who think the story is shit is guys who have not done this sort of thing often. To those of us who have done it all before, it reads like textbook. What you need to ask yourself is why this story makes you feel like less of a man (real answer: because you are less of a man).

[–]Steve_Chiv 1 point2 points  (2 children)

"No, I didn't piss on her"

FUCKING BETA

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Its a joke, referencing to my other posts

[–]BigClansBigAutism 1 point2 points  (1 child)

nah u didn't do shit retarded faggot

[–]Heisenbread77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This work of fiction should have been posted to "Dear Penthouse."

[–]TeaLife19 1 points1 points [recovered]

I am curious to know, in what country this happened?

[–]piggypoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a great way to spell teehee. Tihi

[–]ILoveJuices 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But you actually pissed on her right?

[–]alphasaif 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey good job and good post brah 👍. I liked the part where u "told" her shit instead of "asking" her shit. Can you tell me as to how to tell without sounding creepy?

[–]tableman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>Then she asks me to see my front squat to compare to hers. I tell her no. (I am not changing my entire weekly training routine up for a girl).

As if doing a few front squats will have any effect what soever on your week... Where is your competitive drive?

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