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Hunger is Attractive, Thirst is not. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Patriarchysaurus

If any of you have yet to read Robert Greene, allow me to elucidate the debates over confidence and believing yourself "good enough/not good enough."

In Seduction, Greene gives examples of behaviours that are seductive and anti-seductive; and chief among the anti-seductive qualities is desperation. The number 1 thing incels around here don't comprehend is that even after you cum inside a wet hole-- you'll still be you. If you aren't happy just "being yourself", you won't be happy after you roll off a bitch or 20.

The reason TRP encourages self-improvement, isn't to circlejerk over lifting/looksmaxing/rack stacking. Its to get men to be selfish THE RIGHT WAY. What does that mean? It means you start breaking down yourself and the world around you in order to rebuild your life around your own raison d'être. If you don't have a mission, or make women your mission, you will remain a bluepill until the end of your days.

"It's only when you've lost everything that you are free to do anything" isn't just some edge lord Fight-Club platitude. Its message could be rewritten more literally as "It's only when you are ready to play your hand, only when you put your sack on the table, only when you accept fear and consequences, that you can be free to create a better world for yourself and others."

"What about irrational self-confidence??"

The idea behind ISC isn't to swagger around as a skinny fat beta shit, or ordering martinis "shaken not stirred" at the bar like some farcical James Bond. It is rather to encourage self-efficacy: the will and determination required to put one foot in front of the other. If you have no way to fake confidence, appearing overconfident and failing hard is STILL GOOD. It's a vital component of building confidence: to become better at anything YOU MUST CRASH AND BURN. Humiliation and social repercussions should be viewed as learning experiences, not as unforgettable sins.

Tl;dr:

  1. Thirsty behaviour is anti-seductive. & Envy of others is still thirsty behaviour:

In Renaissance art, Envy was depicted as an old woman with a snake for a tongue, giant ears, & devil's horns growing from her head. Her snake tongue keeps her blind, and her giant ears are always listening for gossip. It's allegory for feminine nature of envy-- as well as the self-delusion that happens when you begin to focus on the ends (what other people have that you don't) rather than the means (what they did to *earn it*).

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Giotto_-_Scrovegni_-_-48-_-_Envy.jpg

  1. Hungry behaviour is seductive, it exudes the desire necessary to put in the work self-destruction/self-improvement required to change your circumstances.

[–]3whatsthisgarg 87 points88 points  (13 children)

Good post.

Metaphors are very useful for illustrating these kinds of points, in this case it is profound.

Thirst IS desperation. You are going to DIE if you don't get that water. Also, the fact that YOU LET YOURSELF get to that point in the midst of obvious abundance! WEAK! Because the woman you are so thirsty for knows that there are many many other beautiful women around her (might be a point of contention, but I believe that women subconsciously know they are not special).

Hunger does reflect self-efficacy. You are a man, you know how to hunt and make your own food, and yet at this time, you CHOSE this one particular prey. Also, you're not going to die if you don't eat today.

I have said it before, I'll say it again: I have had many women say the words you looked like you wanted to eat me.

[–]Patriarchysaurus[S] 37 points38 points  (10 children)

I'm glad you caught that. Hunters chase their prey because they're hungry-- and when they catch what they're after they have spoils for their whole tribe.

Beggars asking after a sip of fresh water are invalids that can't or won't fetch their own from the river.

[–]3whatsthisgarg 13 points14 points  (8 children)

Hunters chase their prey because they're hungry-- and when they catch what they're after they have spoils for their whole tribe.

And it just goes on!

The need for water is completely private: NOBODY else benefits when the thirst is quenched.

But when a hunter gets hungry, EVERYBODY has a good time.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

failing hard is STILL GOOD.

One of the things i wanted to talk about somewhat recently. It is actually good behaviour for your own improvement to figure out when you are on the wrong path -and cannot turn back from it at the current stage- to not blame yourself or try to force a turn, but rather FULL HEAD ON crash the ship on that part. If you are for example being edgy to a girl and realise how dumb you look and cannot change the perception you have created in other in said situation might aswell use the experience to learn something by going FULL ON EDGE LORD only to learn what that does result in. How you are percieved so that in future even the very start of such a path makes you stop and turn.

[–]SelfTaughtPiano 17 points18 points  (2 children)

The reason TRP encourages self-improvement, isn't to circlejerk over lifting/looksmaxing/rack stacking. Its to get men to be selfish THE RIGHT WAY. What does that mean? It means you start breaking down yourself and the world around you in order to rebuild your life around your own raison d'être. If you don't have a mission, or make women your mission, you will remain a bluepill until the end of your days.

What if my only problem is a crushing sense of loneliness? I'm happy and functional when I'm with people and I feel like I belong.

[–]Patriarchysaurus[S] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

That is your body's natural reaction to being alone. The human animal is meant to live in close knit families and tribal communities, so you just need to find or make one for yourself.

[–]untonyto 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Been there. Accept it. Function within the loneliness, pursue your goals despite it. It will cease to be a problem.

[–]SPREAD_THE_LOVE_7791 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The number 1 thing incels around here don't comprehend is that even after you cum inside a wet hole-- you'll still be you. If you aren't happy just "being yourself", you won't be happy after you roll off a bitch or 20.

This really resonated with me. I need to complete me, I can't look for anyone else to do it. Because in the end, it's just me, myself, and I.

[–]wolf__larsen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nice man, thanks for sharing. The painting is a powerful reminder.

[–]TheWhiskeyTickler -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I was considering writing a TRP post on this topic to give back to the community that gave me so much, but I see you've addressed it better than I could try to. Great post, really explains the one of the core ideas of TRP very well. Bravo.