25 Rules on Women (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by TeflonDon3000


[–]thesilverSexer 256 points257 points  (33 children)

What kinda cargo shorts u rock?

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 162 points163 points  (13 children)

The one with the most pockets. I have a lot of stuff I like to carry.

[–]Aarxnw 76 points77 points  (3 children)

You're a fucking smart ass, can't tell whether I hate you or love you. Either way, I hope you're this snappy with the ladies.

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 39 points40 points  (1 child)

You know you love me you big lug πŸ˜‰

Hopefully we'll one day meet and get to be snappy with the ladies together!

[–]trpanak1n -1 points0 points  (0 children)

you had it with the first comeback, but lost it with this one. A-

[–]TopKekSkye 27 points28 points  (6 children)

More pockets more pussy, as they say

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 18 points19 points  (3 children)

I don't who they are, but fuck I like them

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Slightly unrelated, but cargo pants are very fashionable among youngsters

Sure they are skinnier than the wide cargos adults wear, but I always see folks saying a clothing piece went out of fashion, and next day I see teens rocking it. Thats not the deal with the fedora though.

[–]Victorian_Astronaut 2 points3 points  (0 children)


Didn't fleshlite take all their business?

[–]BobbyPeru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah studies have shown an inverse relationship with the number of pockets and pussy

[–]redditJ5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is the edc flashlight?

[–]MGTOWManofMystery 43 points44 points  (16 children)

Yes, they even attack our cargo shorts:


First, they came for the neckbeards, and I did nothing since I shave.

Then, they came for the incels, but I wasn't one.

Then, they came for my cargo shorts...

[–]benmarvin 46 points47 points  (2 children)

What are you even putting in those pockets? You're not a carpenter. 

Jokes on them, I actually am a carpenter.

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Nailed them! (Pun intended.... Get it, cause you're a carpenter and you probably use nails on a regular basis, I mean I'm not sure because I've never carpentered anything ever before, but I imagine nails are a big part of what you do, thus saying nailed them implies that you both nailed them to the board metaphorically, as well as in the literal form that you nail boards on a daily basis while wearing cargo shorts which hold those nails you just used you're still reading you fuck aren't you so the joke is actually on you, who really got nailed hard.)

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (3 children)

lol the pics they used in that article for comparison are hilarious. They make the chino wearing dude look like a high school junior and the cargo short wearing guy look like an actual man.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

And then goes on to say its clear chino shorts makes you look like a real man. What... lol

[–]Victorian_Astronaut 1 point2 points  (1 child)

When I see Chino Shorts I know he's for sure either gay or way to fancy for me. I always imagine a little thong or his wife's panties under them.

I'd much rather find a Cargo Shorts wearing kinda guy...and slowly over two decades turn him into the Chino Shorts wearing kind of guy.

[–]LandoChronus 7 points8 points  (1 child)

there's always the possibility of carrying a bag with you. You know, like everyone else.

If it wasn't obvious they want to turn men into bitches, there's a pretty clear piece of evidence... Jesus

[–]MGTOWManofMystery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. They can't let men be men...

[–]segagaga 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The chino shorts look gay as fuck though.

[–]B_Campbell 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The cargo shorts look cool. Like I can carry survival gear and shit in the pockets. Those chino shorts look faggy. Who want's to look at some dude's knees. The guy even shaved his legs. Ughhh.

[–]1htbf -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What kind of autist carries survival shit in every day outwear?

[–]Victorian_Astronaut 2 points3 points  (2 children)

As a very fashion conscious person, I gotta say... I love cargo shorts on men. Honestly.

It make the man feel more comfortable. So he's generally in a better mood.

It gives me a chance to check out his legs. I like legs.

Cargo shorts are so much more attractive and versatile to me, over say, new fashions of Skinny Jeans, and belts below your ass!

When I am around a man in cargo shorts I am in constant anticipation of wondering if he is going to remove his shirt or not.

Dress Slacks say no!

More cargos please!

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

"aD a vEDy fAsHiOD cOnDiOuD wOBAd" have you ever fucking read this fucking subreddit's rules?

[–]Victorian_Astronaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did actually. But failed to notice that at the very bottom it said:

Remain "sexless" while posting. Posts & Comments Reported as: Remain "sexless" while posting. Women frequently use their sex to try and seize special attention on the internet. This does not fly in our community. Having a vagina does not afford your words special weight or wisdom. If you are female, do not say "woman here," or "as a female" or anything that identifies you as such. Your comments and posts should be able to stand on the merit of your ideas alone.

It was below the Link/Post Rules, and at the very bottom. I will never post a link here for sure! Rather misleading. I would have expected such a STRONG rule to be higher up in the listing. I apologize. Please forgive me. I fixed the mistake. And for the record; I completely agree: Your comments and posts should be able to stand on the merit of your ideas alone.

[–]partyboob305 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"What are you even putting in those pockets? You're not a carpenter. You don't need space for a level. If you think you need those pockets, let me ask you this: why is a four-pocket jean fine most of the time, but a four-pocket short isn't? Exactly."

Got pulled over by cops pulling into a bar strip and had a bunch of coke bags in my cargo side pockets. female cop searches me and reached just shy enough to not notice em. cargo shorts saved my life

[–]hodltaco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wife through down the edict a couple of years ago "NO MORE CARGO SHORTS!". I went out and bought 7 pairs immediately and since then is what I wear exclusively from May to November.

[–]Mazcok 87 points88 points  (22 children)

I rate women on a 1-3 scale.

3 - LTR Material

2 - Fuckable

1 - Next

[–]rp_newdawn 61 points62 points  (2 children)

I'm a big fan of the binary system...
1 - fuckable
0 - nah

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Easier method of analysis:

Penis swollen - fuckable

Penis no reaction - nah

[–]rp_newdawn 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Instructions unclear. Fucked a maga hat.

[–]colzod 22 points23 points  (5 children)

Women are always rated on a 1-30 scale of hotness.

Ya, this is over thinking it. 0-10 should be max resolution.

[–]whuttupfoo 17 points18 points  (1 child)

That’s what decimal points are for. Always strive for a 7.678 and above. If she doesn’t buy you a drink, her score goes down by .056.

[–]1mental_models 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You got down-voted for a good sense of humor.

Another poster got 8 upvotes for claiming the 'scale' should be age based, and 18-30...

This is why some people feel the need to dumb-down content

[–]redditJ5 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I like to use the beer system. How many beers to do her.

[–]1mental_models -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Agree. There doesn't need to be three levels to each degree of hotness. Already some overlap (e.g. 5/6)

[–]Sirkisskindofman 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Age my dude. 18 being the bare minimum you go to rate women. Over 30 doesnt exist, because of post wall, is what OP's saying.

[–]Naderlande 1 points1 points [recovered]

Same thing but OPs is on a 10x scale. Provides more of a spectrum with 3 major classes.

[–]Heisenbread77 1 point2 points  (3 children)

What do you do with a 19 then? Round up to fuckable?

[–]Delirious133 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Just remember that once she falls down on your scale. She never moves back up.

[–]excaliboor 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I see half of you fuckers (paging /u/colzod/) don't get the scale.

Anything under 18 is too low to be fuckable, and there's nothing over 30 that's on the fuckable scale.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 5 points6 points  (0 children)

3 - Unicorn 2 - Holes 1- Lives under a bridge

It's almost like there is a lesson here.

[–]1mental_models -1 points0 points  (3 children)

maybe, but

LTR = (High SMV scale & High Personality scale)

Fuckable = (acceptable attractiveness scale x thirst)

In other words, if i did a 1-3 scale, that scale would be a result of other 1-10 scales.

[–]Mazcok 3 points4 points  (2 children)

If you're using graph paper, you're doing it wrong.

[–]2Dmva100 88 points89 points  (15 children)

Nice list.

Add 26 - Never argue. Reframe, walk away, or just STFU and treat her like the police.

12 should be modified. Never buy a woman anything. It's 2017.

[–]Frich3 1 points1 points [recovered]

how come you never argue? Does that show you are too invested or care about what she has to say too much?

[–]1TrenGod37 61 points62 points  (0 children)

You never argue because you can’t win.

[–]womans_algorithm 29 points30 points  (0 children)

It means you are taking her too seriously. You should see her as a child. Tell her what is right, but never argue. Also, she will definitely take it personally and try to introduce feelings in your conversation. You dont want that.

[–]2Dmva100 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I frame women like the police because she won't listen or consider the valid points or (omg) logic that you bring up, she will only sift through your words to find things she can use against you by reframing, shaming, or storing it away in her hamster wheel to use as ammo at a later date to try to get something from you.

See law of least effort. Also check out Illimitable Mans article about how women argue. Arguing with her eventually gets so far away from the original problem it just becomes a character/frame assassination effort.

[–]MelodyMyst 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Could you provide a link to that article for those of us who would like to read it but may have limited time?

Thank you.

EDIT: https://illimitablemen.com/2014/03/09/how-women-argue/

google gave that up real easy this time.

[–]TunedtoPerfection 14 points15 points  (0 children)

95% of the time a women is arguging just to argue as a test to see how you handle it. It's easy to spot as it usually amounts to going against you for no real reason other than feelz. Treating this type of test as a serious argument shows her she can easily and direct influence you. If she can do that she reasons so can anyone so she loses respect for you.

The rare occasion the arugment is actually valid and worth discussing, you should still act in the same manner. If it's important she will double down with hard facts and at least a viable solution. When those are presented then you can take it as a serious affair.


" I don't wanna go there for dinner" " we always go to XYZ Bar"

Or any of those bullshit arguments are just shit test to see if she can control your decision making process

[–]red_matrix 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think arguing shows weakness, same as making excuses. Just lay down the law and be stoic.

[–]1TrenGod37 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I buy a woman something if I feel she deserves it. Or earned it. Nothing wrong with that. Just don’t be a walking ATM

[–]xeneize93 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I'm 24 and girls my age expect to be paid for cause I feel other guys want to pay for them...how would I go about having them pay for themselves without losing them?

[–]Lethmusicdude 1 points1 points [recovered]

If they give flak. Say bye. Thats how you deal

[–]xeneize93 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok...not trying to say anything bad. Legit question here...how often do you get laid?

[–]fromthecrypt8 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely agree on your proposed nr 26. Its a major one.

[–]saltyCounselor 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'd change the first rule to: He who hesitates - masturbates.

Such realization punches straight in the mental nuts.

[–]abstractplebbit 91 points92 points  (13 children)


reads vehemently


This is sidebar material

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 49 points50 points  (7 children)

Hey thanks! Glad I got your dick hard

[–]abstractplebbit 14 points15 points  (6 children)

Yea I might need to see a doctor bc this is definitely not going away in the next four hours

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 26 points27 points  (5 children)

PM me proof immediately.

Don't worry, I'm a doctor, it's strictly for professional use.

[–]abstractplebbit 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Is it going to end up in another list? Bc I don't think that's gonna help me:/

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 39 points40 points  (2 children)

Hopefully the "25 Biggest Dick Pics I've EVER Gotten" list!

[–]RPStone 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Please write more posts. IDGAF what you write, I just wanna read your replies to comments.

[–]h8_2_deb8_m8 5 points6 points  (1 child)

All of these things Patrice O'Neal already stated.

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

May he rest with the greatest of them

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It's almost like the mods didn't pin something about this too...

[–]abstractplebbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gaylubeoil also never wrote a post about it

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (2 children)

This is a solid quick read. I might put it on the back of my bathroom door to read during my daily morning shit.

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Probably the highest honor I could have gotten, thank you

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

May all of your shits be as solid as your post.

[–]omega_dawg93 22 points23 points  (4 children)

if you believe a woman is "out of your league," she will always be out of your league.

if she breathes oxygen and is affected by gravity, she's NOT out of your league.

it's YOUR league. make her a damn cheerleader... and bend her over.

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 15 points16 points  (3 children)

I'm not delusional enough to not acknowledge some women are just plainly more physically attractive than I am. There is nothing wrong in that.

Is it wrong if that acknowledgment allows doubt and fear to affect you? Absolutely.

"Out of your league" is simply a statement regarding physical attractiveness, not an assessment of sexuality (see Rule 3).

[–]majorketone 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Iron Rule of Tomassi #8

Always let a woman figure out why she wont Ζ’uck you, never do it for her.

[–]omega_dawg93 0 points1 point  (1 child)

why are you comparing YOUR attractiveness to a woman's? let her compare herself to other women.

you should truly and fully believe you can seduce ANY woman on this planet. period.

having the ability to do so is another thing. but your only roadblocks should be due to time, logistics, their relationship status, etc.

other than that, approach... approach... approach. there are LOTS of beautiful women walking this planet that are lonely as fuck.

you can assume they do NOT like you bc of YOUR doubts about YOUR looks, but there's nothing wrong with assuming THEY LIKE you regardless of YOUR looks.

this is how guys end-up with women supposedly way "above their league." this is how jamal and tyrone pound the hottest white girls on campus. this is how the fat dude with greasy hair always smells like pussy. they approach... and they don't give a fuck about the result.

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for not reading my response

[–]ThaSupernova 8 points9 points  (7 children)

This is pretty good. I'll slightly disagree with 12 and 15, only because I find never to be too strong. Definitely things to avoid doing though.

Put it on a poster and print it out for your son's room when he turns 16.

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 11 points12 points  (6 children)

Rule 12 and 15 are in place for a reason.

12 represents the Beta provider mentality. Buying a woman a drink is never necessary, and will often place you into the Beta provider category right away. Some women will want and like that, but be prepared for the treatment you'll receive.

15 is advanced shit testing. A woman will always try to get you to compromise to her view or perspective. I'm willing to change, especially if I know it will benefit us both. But I will change only on my accordance, I will not compromise against my will, that's the difference.

[–]whuttupfoo 1 points1 points [recovered]

Seriously, I cringed at that post made by a senior contributor who was sad because he didn’t buy a girl’s drink.

Buy buying a drink, no matter how unimportant you think it is, she will see you with that provider status.

[–]womans_algorithm -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

Compromising is never against your will, that's the point. Trying to work it out for both of you.

EDIT: to people who downvote me - read a book for once in your life, or at least google "compromise definition".

[–]I_Need_More_Space_ 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Haha! Yeah, a spineless, beta, serial compromiser withers his will to nothing. So, ya. I guess it can't be against your will if you have none.

[–]womans_algorithm 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That's not compromising, that's letting her have her way because you are scared of losing her.

[–]I_Need_More_Space_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You do realize that there really are men out there that have no will of their own? Especially out here in California... Wow!

[–]tenXten 4 points5 points  (0 children)

really wish I found this and this sub 10 years ago. time to catch up! Thx

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

For the sole purpose of beefing up an already good post, can there be a 25.5: "Don't stick your dick in crazy"?

It's an oldie but a goodie.

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

No, because crazy is incredible sex. Don't ever give up incredible sex for mental issues.

Plus, all women are crazy, it's only their degree of it that we argue about.

[–]bigboilerdawg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Travis Alexander might disagree.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Until you're getting your tires slashed and she's camping outside your house at night after cutting her off...

There's AWALT crazy and there's just plain crazy.

[–]tenXten 2 points3 points  (1 child)

really wish I found this and this sub 10 years ago. time to catch up! Thx

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[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 21 points22 points  (7 children)

I'll try to lay out an explanation for each of your questions:

Rule 3: Sexuality is 95% mental. Attraction is 95% physical. Whether you get laid is 95% a result of your level of attraction backed by your sexuality.

There are 2 different sections of what a woman looks at you like. First is always physical appearance, "Attraction". Second is your frame and game, "Sexuality". Combine those two concepts and you have an equation that works out to how much you need of each to get laid.

You can get laid if you're super attractive and have no game; you can also get laid if you have superb game but are a fat slob. They are counterbalances, to increase your chances of getting laid, increase both balances.

The 1-30 scale is based on comedian Patrice O'Neal's interpretation of women's hotness. Google it. 1-10 - Ugly Women 11-20 - Average Women 21-29 - Beautiful Women 30 - Unicorn

So in the 1-10 scale, an 8 can be almost anything. An 8 could be a 19 on the 1-30 scale, a very beautiful average looking woman. Or it could be a 22, a kinda ugly beautiful woman. 1-30 scale is much more accurate and places a woman mentally in accordance with your level of confidence.

Rule 8, specifically your situation.

Go radio silent for a week, see if she texts you then, if not, move on, if so, go smash.

Rule 9: Never grovel, never beg, never ask.

Never beg for sex. Never beg for her time. Never beg for her love.

Take it one step further, never ask her permission to ever do anything. She always has the ability to say no, and all women love to say no. So don't ask, but tell them, or surprise them with whatever it is you want to do.

Women don't like to make choices or decisions in the relationship, so don't burden them. You'll be happier as a leader, they'll be happier as a follower.

Rule 14: Jealousy is your ultimate weapon.

Keep stuff around your place of other women's. I always have a pair of panties "kinda hidden". Not obviously in plain sight, but just "around". I also keep earrings in a spot above my bed where it's natural to place stuff like that, so they always see it.

Being a horn dog is desperate and unattractive. Being a man who can, and does get laid if he wants to is sexy.

As far as friends go, be friendly. Game all women the exact same. Don't sex talk, but open the door of a future possibility. Snapchat is a great and innocent way to open lines of communication with any woman.

Rule 16: The best way to build attraction is to act unattracted.

Your level of attraction is always one notch below hers. I might initiate contact and apply kino, but she has to reciprocate the same or advance the level of kino I applied; or I take a step back.

Never be afraid to lose a woman's interest by being uninterested. Women who are truly into you will fight and claw for your attention if you remove it.

The Brad Pitt (or whoever is the hottest current Hollywood hunk) axiom is something I always use when doubting this rule: "How would she act if I was Brad Pitt right now? Like this? Doubt it. Move on."

[–]Frich3 1 points1 points [recovered]

def like this bro. the snapchat thing is spot on especially when they have a guy and want to be sneaky. not saying i condone her cheating. how succesful are you with the ladies? i would say im in between an 7.5-8 on the attractiveness scale.

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

How successful am I?

Relatively. I mean I can get laid anytime (see Rule 22), but that's not the point. I enjoy 3-12 month relationships, I feel the spectrum of emotions is wide, the experiences are more developed, and the sex is always best at about 6 months. In that aspect I fail with the ladies. In the last 3 years of TRP I've only gotten to 8 months with one girl. Most women have fallen in the sub 3 month category.

The longest I went without getting laid is 3 weeks. I'm currently in a 2 month relationship.

So success with women is what you make it. If all you want is to get laid, see Rule 22. If what you want is multiple meaningful open relationships, like I do, well that takes a considerable amount of effort.

[–]take1fortheteam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Man, you are level-headed, op. Nice to see this.

[–]lambence2722 1 points1 points [recovered]

Can you explain the snapchat thing a bit? I find Snapchat very hard to build meaningful connections with.

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)


Snapchat is THE RP communication form.

Never text, always Snap her a pic you put on your story. Always use Bitmojis in lieu of actual words. Never communication directly, it's perfect, low effort, and can be done across countless women at the same time.

So I have about 30-40 women who I've met and keep in constant contact with through Snapchat. Not directly ever. I just post pics to my story, sometimes videos, whatever I think is cool. They always watch every single one. And every now and again one wants to get involved. It's that easy.

My pick up now a days always includes a Snapchat add.

[–]saltyCounselor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not because I've had trouble with women in the past, but just because it's harder to get them after college.

No it's not. In fact, it should be easier to get women the older you get into 20s.

Chicks dig older guys and the experience they carry. And of course, younger guys usually have very little clue what to do and to say, they're full of insecurities. Blue pill nurturing contributes a lot as well.

But then again, I'm not from Murica. I figure things tend to be slightly different here on Europe.

[–]giggity23 1 point2 points  (1 child)

'She is a hoe until proven otherwise' what is solid evidence to prove she is NOT a hoe?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

More like , "25 Rules on how to die alone".

[–]snarkcommenter 1 points1 points [recovered]

You forgot to add "at this moment".

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I listed that in the first sentence. "My (27 year old urbanite) personal rules on women..."

[–]1UPZ_ 2 points3 points  (1 child)


25 Rules on Women?

More like 25 Rules on Girls.

I dont see any of this applicable to mature women, conservative women or men looking for the basics in a relationship.

These rules made sense to me when I was 27 years AND younger... when short term hook ups and relationships were the goal.

And its also USA-biased... your youth (girls and fuckboys) culture is fucked.

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A foreign woman's perspective, I can appreciate that.

You seem like a gorgeous mature woman who knows what she wants. I'd love to hear exactly the type of man you'd let into your life.

[–]rudra_1793 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Very powerpoint presention esque post . Easy to follow .

[–]Jonlife 1 point2 points  (3 children)

"Women are always rated on a 1-30 scale of hotness."

Shout out to Patrice O'Neil, Black Phillip represent all day!

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

May his greatness Patrice O'Neal rest with the best of them.

[–]Jonlife 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The Black Phillip Series is sheer brilliance. The man was ahead of the game. Even with a girl friend/wife he never stopped being him (Red Pilled as fuck).

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's a reason his series is Sidebar material. It's essential listening.

[–]1Entropy-7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  1. Yes

  2. No, it is much more subtle.

  3. I think you are on to something but you need to clariify.

  4. Generally,but in what way? Clarify

  5. WTF? The HB10 scale is a meme. What is 1-30? Play D&D much?

  6. Check

  7. Check

  8. Generally yes, but get that PIV, check off that box, and then move the fuck on.

  9. Mostly correct. The ask part has a lot of variations. A general rule is to not ask unless you know what the answer is. My classic is cuddling with a girl and asking her "do you want to make love, fuck, or be completely dominated?" That ploy worked for me

  10. If or once she is into you, the shit tests stop or at least taper off.

  11. She can be special. My current LTR is one of a kind.

  12. Check

  13. Well, very few. I have a female friend who is whip-smart but completely unfuckable. Ask your dick: if your dick says yes, then you have to say no, no, NO, NO to being friends.

  14. It's just dread game: scourge of the blue pills but basic practice here.

  15. Yes and no. Some things you keep flexible whiile others are fixed. Just wait until you are my age: a lot of things will be fixed.

  16. Not exactly. Enjoy the moment and people (both women and men) will be attracted to you. "Coy" and "coquettish" are what women do. The opposite, which is TRP Prime is to state your intentions

  17. Check

  18. Check

  19. This is an art, not a science.

  20. A bit of both.

  21. Check

  22. Dealer's choice. I never really thought about it in my 20's. In my early 30's I chose to punch down. Then I said 'fuck this' and since then I only punch up.

  23. Mostly yes. The odds are stacked against you. However, I am getting married next month because I think I have the odds stacked in my favour.

  24. Always be a decent human being. Read Black Dragon on this particular issue.

  25. Check

[–]int3rnetz 0 points1 point  (4 children)

When is otherwise, when proving a hoe? Serious question. Whats the limit where you say, yea, shes a good girl?

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

There are no good girls.

She is either currently a hoe, a previous hoe, or a soon to be hoe.

Get that idea through your head and your relationships with women will improve vastly.

Just imagine if you were a woman and could have sex with as many guys as most women can, how much sex would you have?

Me, I'd just be a whore.

[–]int3rnetz 0 points1 point  (2 children)

While I subscribe to rp, I disagree. Some people have standards and live up to them. A conscious woman, will be experienced without giving up her value.

How do you classify a hoe?

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's not about classification. It's about reality.

Women have very strong sexual desires, just like you do.

They are socially conditioned by society/religion/parents to suppress those desires. Some succumb to that pressure, others fight that pressure.

But to you, all that should matter is every woman wants dick. That means you can get laid easily if you just play every card right.

[–]int3rnetz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn't make every woman a hoe. You dick her down right, she doesnt need to go anywhere. Its just become more socially acceptable to fuck around now, due to the ease of access.

[–]alamsohel1990 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Never grovel, never beg, never ask I can understand the first two but never ask ! Isn't we men always ask girls to go out with us ? Isn't we the ones say 'I want you' and they respond. I'm really asking here, I myself not very sure about this. Because there were times when I didn't had to ask and those times were great and the relationship went just as I wanted, just as any normal man would have wanted. On the other hand when it was me who initiate the "youknowwhatimean" and all those, things did not work out so well. Please explain this to me. And lastly which is more fruitful ? Considering the fact we are not in the game for long term relationship, is it better to ask and let them know what is needed and get or just to say fuck it, and enjoy what you get and never ask for anything more ?

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuck dude, use some breaks in your wall.

The rule means what it says, stop asking permission.

"Can I take you out?" No. "Hey you should meet me for a drink tonight."

See the difference? Always tell, never ask.

"Can I kiss you?" No. Grab her throat and make out with her

See the difference? Always do, never ask.

Women hate choices, they hate having to decide anything, so don't make them do something they hate.

[–]doctorcoolpop 0 points1 point  (1 child)

rule 26: trying to manipulate women by playacting - to seem like someone you're not and cop an attitude - is a loser's game. get a life

such bullshit

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't manipulate any woman with my rules, I manipulate myself into a standard.

But hey listen, you're probably way smarter, would love to hear any rule you have for women.

[–]OVNl 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Fuck dude, this list was good, why did you removed it?

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't, it got removed. Currently messaging mods.

[–]Feunyr-is-not-me -5 points-4 points  (5 children)

Probably a waste of time but... you know that every woman is a specific human being ? You live in a fucked up world dude, I'm really sorry for you. Hope you'll get better

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Every woman is a specific human being, with her own personality, rationality, and belief system.

And I am a specific human being, with my own personality, rationality, and belief system. However, as a man, I need to have a belief structure concerning how I treat women so that we can both get what we want.

These rules are aimed at myself, as constant reminders from past experiences where I learned hard lessons.

[–]Feunyr-is-not-me 0 points1 point  (1 child)

But why do you need thoses rules ? Are you that scared. Seriously, I don't understand. Call me stupid if you want, I don't mind. I don't know you nor your past experiences but I can assure you that you don't need all the fucked up things that were in this list. Hope you'll get better

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're stupid!

Jk, you're probably not. But no you don't understand. You haven't read the sidebar, you haven't gone through certain life experiences, and you don't have my perspective. All of that is fine.

These are simple rules designed to keep myself in check when it comes to women. They have been cultivated through years of personal experience.

I'm going to assume you're a woman, because concern trolling is a woman's style. As a woman you live a completely different lifestyle than us men. We don't get to wait for Mrs. Right, we have to take constant action to find and attract Mrs. Right.

In that constant action it is very easy to make mistakes that are more detrimental to your life than you first anticipated. It is also difficult to attract Mrs. Right if you don't have the experience and correct mental space about sexuality and relationships.

These rules aren't designed for women, they're designed for men.

[–]1htbf 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Every woman is still... Well, a woman.

But yes, a lot of garbage on the list.

[–]WorldNewPilla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thanks a lot! Can you adress number 3?

[–]etherealembryo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Good read 10/10 i live by this.

[–]gillyboatbruff 0 points1 point  (7 children)

As someone who has been in a happy, healthy marriage for 20 years, this may be the most ridiculous thing I've ever read in this subreddit. My wife agrees. This might bring you short term happiness, but long term misery.

[–]Bear-With-Bit 3 points4 points  (1 child)

And yet here you are reading ridiculous stuff. Why are you here on a sexual strategy forum when you're in a happy healthy marriage?

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Your happiness is shinning through clearly in your reply.

Let me chat your wife up, we'll see exactly what she thinks. Actually, let me completely bypass you and talk directly to your wife.

Do you like when your husband seeks your approval for his opinion on some random Internet forum? Do you blow him with vicious subtropical hurricane force winds?

I'd love to find out what you think!

[–]gillyboatbruff -1 points0 points  (1 child)

"I think OP is disgusting. I don't want to respond to him, I think he's creepy."

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So I'm gonna take that as a no to the blowjob thing.... That's cool

[–]1htbf -1 points0 points  (1 child)

What's the best thing you've read on this subreddit?

[–]Roto2esdios 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Never be loyal, never expect loyalty. Monogamy is for the birds.

That's NOT true!! I mean... about the birds ;-)

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Now you have me Googling if birds are fucking monogamous. Damn you, you clever bastard.

[–]LMS_THEORY_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

7a is often taught but rarely practiced

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the most difficult rule. You have such access to women around you, it's hard not to take the low lying fruit. But every time I have eaten that fruit, it's come back to bite me in the ass. Rule 7 exists for some very specific experiences in my life.

[–]lopezpercussion 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is it punching down if you're a chubby chaser?

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)


Punching down means laying a girl you simply find less attractive than what you'd ideally like to LTR.

So for you that might mean a 5'1" 110lb Asian girl with no tits or ass. Which I would find delicious.

[–]GET_IN_THE_VAN -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

This list is very extreme. Women really aren't that bad homie. I agree with most of your list but some are just going to make you hate women more.

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nothing of my list says to hate women. It's inappropriate to interpret any of it as hatred.

It is simply a statement of guidelines I have set out for myself. It might work for some, it might not work for others. But for me, it protects me from myself when I catch feelings for a shorty, feel me homie?

[–]zeussingh -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Good work man!! If you ever make a wallpaper of this let me know :)

[–]smyger -1 points0 points  (2 children)

  1. What do you mean by that? You can't show off a friend? Make him look good?

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You're right, I should have clarified more.

It means don't sleep with a girl who has easy access to you.

[–]smyger -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Lol. That my bad that was for question 7.

To reframe: 7: What do you mean by that? You can't show off a friend? Make him look good?

OK seems like you answered question nr 7. So that doesn't apply to male friends?

[–]zqxo -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Nothing screams insecurity quite this.

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)


So I'm assuming security in yourself would mean having no rules or discipline in your life?

I'm super insecure.

[–]zqxo 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yeah but you're lying to yourself. Repeating mantras that you are superior to women stems from insecurities and power struggle. genuinely happy secure people that live authentic lives full of love and fulfillment don't overthink things like you do. I can guarantee they don't spend time on this sub preaching pathetic "theories" to a bunch of men measuring their dicks on the internet.

[–]TeflonDon3000[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You're totally right, genuinely happy secure people that live authentic lives full of love and fulfillment spend their time on subs they don't like preaching their own ideals to a bunch of dick measuring men.

I don't know how I never seen this before. But thank you for your altruistic perspective that has truly redefined the way I look at myself. Gonna put away my dick measuring stick now and go out into the world anew.

[–]zqxo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have yet to prove to me you're not insecure. I mean you deleted the post, sounds like you started doubting your theories.

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