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Red Pill TheoryBig Reason for Women's Flaking: Unclicked texts and Silent Mode (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Senior Contributordr_warlock

Observation

I was with a cute college chick at a bar not too long ago, and saw her turn on her phone. Her text notification icon said '6'. When she clicked it, she had a list of 6 'new messages', but some of the times are old. She looked through it trying to decide which to respond to. She chose one out of the six to reply to then put her phone away. As she was putting it away, I saw her phone was in silent mode.


Discussion

Every attractive girl I've seen texting has had her phone on silent and a list of unclicked texts. For this reason alone, calling is almost pointless as she will not hear it ring and how many girls other than your girlfriend actually call back instead of a text?

Attractive women treat their text message inboxes like many people treat their email inboxes, even though they dont want to read one, they dont click on it nor delete it and let the junk accumulate. This makes them lose track of several of them over time and dont feel the need to reply because they forgot what was the last notfication number. In addition, there's no sense of urgency because a notification number changing from 6 to 7 is not the same as 0 to 1.

  • My theory is that if they left their ringer on, it would be pointless because women have so many app notifications and texts coming in it would be annoying and nothing would stand out.


Conclusion

Even if you had good rapport during your interaction at the time you got her number you'll often be lost in a sea of texts and are easily forgotten based on her organization and volume settings alone. Your timing has to be exact and cannot be predicted, especially when her friends' texts come in at the same time (they have first priority).

Always talk to several women simultaneously to mitigate the flaking. In a pool of 3-5, one should be down for at least a meetup. Always be looking for new prospects. This is the flaking generation.

  • Lesson: Copy women's tactic. Silent mode plus flip phone face down for me has created great abundance mentality. It makes it Schroedinger's Text. I don't anticipate it because there's no stimulus to indicate either possibility. I often find myself forgetting and creating slight dread in the process. Just a little thing to add to your 'game'.

[–][deleted] 375 points376 points  (73 children)

As an addition, if an attractive girl always responds to your texts within 30 min, she is fucking into you.

[–]WhySoRuff 259 points260 points  (30 children)

As an addition, if an attractive girl always responds to your texts within 30 seconds, she is into fucking you.

[–]electricspresident 87 points88 points  (15 children)

Not always true though, I've had attractive girls respond fast but when I finally ask them out after like 4-5 texts they ghost. Some just like the attention

[–]thesturg 36 points37 points  (5 children)

She was probably just sitting at home getting her validation for the day. Just sitting there texting all her friends and orbiters is commonly what these women do for fun. Hence the "always" part of the above statement. If she responds quickly at any time then she is probably into you.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (4 children)

It's both, it's all about attention for them even sex. For us it's the reverse. If a woman struggles to get attention from you she's more likely to be into you and perceive your attention as higher value. Hence she will fight for it and try to earn it, chasing you. Possibly losing interest in any other guy when the obsession hits it's stride.

Point is that even then it's all based on her wanting attention and if you ruin that chase for her she's not gonna feel it anymore.

[–]antariusz 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Yep, this is my biggest fuckup in relationships, I act like an aloof asshole when I first meet em, because they really are just a random hoe to me, and then over the span of 6-12 months I slowly let my other options slide off my plate and then BOOM, she’s a cheating hoe because random Tyrone wanted his dick sucked and treated her like shit.

I gotta stop doing that.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Well it's sort of natural. I've noticed that women generally care a WHOLE LOT more about me when we just met. They act like they've known me for years while they are like you said, just a random hoe to me. And eventually this somehow reverses (even when I don't fuck up at all mind you). Where I start to warm to the girl and get used to her being around while she takes it for granted. Now given, that's more like getting a new toy and being all excited but then it loses it's spark. Women are like children in that way.

Still in a normal society women wouldn't trade in their toys every 6-12 months, if so something is seriously wrong. Now given there's allot wrong with us modern men which we discuss on TRP. But I think most regulars here have fixed enough by now. It's time to accept that something is also very wrong with modern women (and society). That it's not just female nature that makes this whole dance between the sexes most tiring and unpleasant at times.

[–]antariusz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Maybe that’s how women have always been. Maybe they were always cheating on their guys within a couple years, but maybe it’s only because of something like TRP am I hyper-aware of it.

This last girl left me, left my house “blaming me” for ignoring her that day. If I was a plugged in blue pill man I would have apologized for upsetting her and she’d be back inside my house. Red pill me knew to check her Facebook account that she logged into on my laptop and found that while she was “pretty good” at deleting messages, she accidentally “archived” one group chat about 2 weeks before the breakup where she coldly went over her plans for trying to get a relationship with the other guy and using me as a backup. All her friends knew.

So yea, she’s 18, I don’t think there was a single thing unique or special about her, slightly below average intelligence, I don’t think it’s even a societal problem so much as just, this is how women are, and likely always have been.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 3 points4 points  (0 children)

TRP is full of stories and situations always differ. It's perfectly normal for a relationship to lose it's spark after 3-4 years. Even if you do all things good. The thing is that in our culture, our society, we are looking to feel good. Most people that is, especially women. If feeling good becomes the centerpiece of being together with a man, she will always end up finding it lacking after 3-4 years. It's their natural bio-clock saying it's time to look for new cock. Remember women only have x amount of fertile years compared to us. They are fucked in a different way than we are. Now the aspirations of a healthy nation and nuclear family could give weight to a woman staying together and finding happyness in the nurture of her offspring and possibly even some satisfaction with her husband. But this society no longer exists, it's been destroyed. Welcome to the desert of the real.

However there are also stories (experienced this myself) where a woman will leg it within a year or two and this is not healthy. It stems from personality disorders, mental issues and a woman being exposed to high levels of degeneracy. I once plated this girl and never saw anything in her for obvious reasons. But she really wanted something serious from me and guys like me. Never happened, so instead she found someone more alike her and every single time she'd cheat on them (even getting gangbanged on a trip) and next break up with them within the year. It was a vicious cycle of her own problems and the men that would either fuck and chuck her, or frustrate her that they actually gave a shit. Wasn't even the guys fault, they just dated the wrong fucked up girl and couldn't see it yet.

trying to get a relationship with the other guy and using me as a backup. All her friends knew.

this is how women are, and likely always have been.

True, still sucks man don't take it to hard. Also remember that THERE ARE some things you could do differently. Odds are this guy wasn't all that special, you just lucked out or your SMV was slightly lower. Take inspiration from athletes like Tom Brady or Christiano Ronaldo. I love using them as an example but honestly any succesfull figure throughout time could be used. These guys are obsessed with being the best. The thing is that once you obliterate girls with your SMV, you make it that much harder for her to replace you. You pretty much force an alpha widowing. Your girl was young but dont forget that women always have other options lying around. Modern times make it that much harder for men, Where a woman would once have to navigate in the real world and check up on her orbiters and back ups. Now a girl can just chill at home, send half nudes and save the messages for a rainy day when things ain't going well with the boyfriend. It's difficult but difficulty breeds character.

It might be easier for women but that also means that the men who do survive and thrive become down right dark triad psychopaths. In turn making life incredibly difficult on women. You can already see this with popular memes about 'these hoes ain't loyal' etc. What happens when most guys stop taking chicks seriously and only view them as fuckmeat? Men still retain their friendships, women however will have zero social connections, something they can't live without. It's our universes natural law, that all things seek equilibrium. Women become a pain in the ass, men become a pain in the ass. Eventually women yield again (patriarchy) and men give a little way (marriage). And left and right the pendulum swings.

Don't stop improving or learning about things. Staying curious will help you the most in life. Dealing with women is allot more complex than learning about AWALT and AF/BB. It requires nuance, good and bad experiences, practice etc. The girl you dated was only 18, she's only starting her 'dating career'.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This a million times. Women prefer attention to sex. when you orbit her sexlessly, that's her fucking you in the ass

[–]WhySoRuff 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When they respond almost immediately it is a test to see if you'll respond fast as well. Respond at least an hour later. When and if the conversation gets interesting, take even longer because anticipation is a huge turn on.

[–]Shaman6624 1 point2 points  (4 children)

A girl can also ghost because she is getting anxious. She probably perceives you as to high value for her.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear222 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah if she has your number she wouldn't assume she's out of your league. Unless she got it from someone else without your permission or something.

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick 0 points1 point  (2 children)

watch what she does, not what she says

[–]Shaman6624 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I read it somewhere that even some hot girls crumple when you approach them to directly. People forget how much value it demonstrates to just be able to open and approach anyone directly. That was the reasoning at least could very well be I'm wrong I didn't actually experienced something like this but I read about it.

[–]cherryCanSuckMyDick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

nah, women never see a man as being out of her league. She may intellectually know her chances are slim, but it doesnt matter because she doesnt do the approaching, no woman ever gave up the chance to fuck Chad just because she had low self-esteem.

When you hear a woman say the word 'anxiety', you need to instantly recognize shes setting a smokescreen for something stupid shes about to do, likely some ridiculous rule she wants you to follow as her way of forcing you into a Beta role.

[–]RPpieceofgarbage 13 points14 points  (14 children)

But isn't "attractive" relative to how we perceive them? A lot of posts on here say girls are HB 8/9's but to a lot of us they could be 5's and 6's.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (1 child)

If she's under 30 and not fat or deformed she's attractive enough to have a ton of random dudes texting her and hitting her up on Tinder. I'd estimate at least half the single guys out there are desperate and would drop everything to go fuck a 5 if she showed any interest.

[–]Dragon_Garoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Even if she's fat or deformed. Well. Depends on the deformation. But fat is the new normal, in case you didn't notice. Can attest: Ex that got super fat (was already heavy when we dated, I like curvy girls) cottage cheese ass, stretch marks everywhere, tits that sag down like waterballoons to her belly... banged at least 10 new guys a month after we split.

Guys will fuck anything, just to get their dick wet, there is enough thirst out there, that Fat 4's still get a ton of attention.

Chubby plate I was seeing revealed she had 7 on the line when we were dating, a few months later when she wanted more of me. She's cute, dresses well, but is very big. She's more of a 6.5.

In both cases, they have cute faces and bubbly personalities, and like to please like good sluts. Seriously not many guys are gonna turn down the easy tinder match.

Women all think they are 8's. So don't even worry about it. Your perception (which of course is subjective to your tastes) is really not relevant to her opportunities. Women really do have abundance if they want it, remember historically 80% of us are very, very thirsty.

[–]TheStumblingWolf 24 points25 points  (3 children)

To me attractive in this context means that a number of men want to fuck her thus giving her outcome independence.

[–]DaddyFlying 1 points1 points [recovered]

I love that part of women. When you’re the guy who backs out it makes your value rise. My guess is that while you’re away the orbiters become annoying as hell. One time I remember a few girls at my place talking and they were saying to me “it’s awesome that you’re not a desperate guy”. I didn’t pry for details, but I understood what was being said. Never be the guy blowing up a girls phone or complaining about the “relationship”. Relax, be upbeat and have your own life. When I’m with my girl; she witnesses me ignoring text msgs and phone calls. One can only assume she thinks I’m with someone else when I’m ignoring her. Truthfully, I’m too into whatever it is I’m doing to be pressed to check my phone all the time. If I’m watching TV I check messages “send a read response” and then respond when I’m done with whatever I’m doing..

[–]TheStumblingWolf 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Indeed. Somehow, with the red pill, I've managed to become outcome independent even without plates. Not before after the pill have I known how it feels to have your dignity intact when interacting with women. I always had this "please notice me" mindset as a beta. It felt undignified, but I knew no other way. I even remember consciously thinking letting girls decide when to escalate from messaging to meeting and such was a viable dating strategy. Little did I know lol

[–]EdmondDaunts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even if you read about it before there comes a point where men realise they have no safety net. Sure you may have a good support system but you can still see the ground. You’ll feel that exposure.

Women, especially young women, rarely feel that.

When you are young and if you realise this the idea, it is uncomfortable. You don’t want it. You want validation. As you get older you learn to accept it. That’s part of the man’s path. You are your own validation.

Women can go their whole lives never needing to face this. Hence they already have a greater abundance mentality. But it’s a borrowed mentality. It’s a debt that at some point they’ll need to pay for by compromising.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (7 children)

By attractive I mean 5+ and fuckable. Even objective 5's and 6's have flocks of dudes trying to get with them, I've seen it firsthand. If she picks you out of that flock to text back then the writing is on the wall. Whats even sweeter is when she picks you over her boyfriend.

[–]daprospecta 9 points10 points  (5 children)

That shit is not sweet. As a man, you already have enough shit to worry about in life, don't add a jealous boyfriend to that mix.

[–]Throwaway903188 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Pussy. I am not afraid of any jealous boyfriend and you shouldnt be either. Bluepill.. You must hate the guy who stole your girl.

[–]antariusz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t hate him, I thank him.

I had been slipping, trusting hoes, trying to turn a hoe into a housewife, not working out nearly as much, letting my other plates drop off. A woman can get a dick in an hour, when she wants it, it takes more work than that as a guy, don’t ever let your plates fall, and don’t ever upgrade a plate into a girlfriend.

It’s great motivation to stay on my game.

I kept the attention of an 18 year old girl for 10 months before she left me for “Chad” that’s not bad, but I could have done better. Chad fucked her, forgot about her, and then 1 year later she fucked him again as soon as she got the chance. She left me because she wanted to try to make a relationship with him work, but he was smarter than I am, and knew not to have a relationship with a slut, he has better abundance mentality than I do, because it’s easier for him to get laid. She still loved him, and I didn’t even know his name.

It was my fault for not being enough of a chad and slipping back into the role of billy the beta.

Those are the best kind of red pills to swallow. I appreciate them, I eat them with vinegar just so I can remember the taste.

[–]daprospecta -1 points0 points  (1 child)

You have growing to do. It's not about fear. I always try to avoid unnecessary problems in my life. You live and you learn. Sometimes you learn from personal experience, sometimes you learn from others experiences. I have learned that it's not worth it. I'm sure you will learn the same one day.

[–]Throwaway903188 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol it's not about fear? Then why did you suggest that you would be worried about her ex boyfriend... I wouldn't worry about him. It wouldn't be an unnecessary problem if you weren't scared.

[–]Dragon_Garoo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I love this one. :-) Randomly an old plate messaged me. Boyfriend out of town. Hmm. Well. Normally I wouldn't engage, just my normal moral compass. But A) he tried to pick up my LTP several times and B) I know he cheats on her. Was being used as revenge sex, didn't care. Was fun. Will bang again next time. lol.

[–]theNealCutter -1 points0 points  (0 children)

or she's just not preoccupied.

or she's just nice.

[–]ScottDurden 1 points1 points [recovered]

This is not always the case some just need the attention. I digress texting is for logistics only.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (4 children)

That depends on if you are an orbiter or not. Girls text their orbiters for attention and alphas for sex.

This is a huge misconception in men these days, lots of guys think a girl is into him because she texts back, but of course she will text an orbiter back to keep her orbiter happily showering her with compliments and attention. This causes the orbiter to keep doing this because "omg she likes me, she texts back", thus completing the circle.

You need to be able to assess whether or not you're an orbiter which I'll admit is not very easy especially for those without much experience.

[–]UlfricLLC 1 points1 points [recovered]

If you’re not sure if you’re an orbiter, then you’re an orbiter.

[–]Boatzanhoez 3 points4 points  (1 child)

He's right. If you're not fucking her. Someone else is.

[–]Dragon_Garoo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I have a few that text me often, but not constantly. Two have made it plain on several occasions they want to hook up; the third, I'm pretty sure. I assume nothing, I laugh, I joke, I answer when I please, and don't worry about it if they don't reply. DGAF and it's all good. You're only orbiting if you care.

[–]jackandjill22 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

IDK about that. She may just be corralling you when her other pool of sheep. Don't let your Ego get the best of you.

OP's right about this BTW.

[–]doctorsugar1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If she 'calls' you back after 24hours to apologize for your phone call she missed, she's very fucking much into you. Probably been thinking of you for those past 24hrs.

[–]2Dmva100 46 points47 points  (5 children)

Cold approach and insta-dating/SDL, ONS avoids this shit. The smart phone is very much a black hole queue these days. For every moment, hour, day, or even week you don't meet/close, your chances drop exponentially.

[–]LeadBased 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Could you elaborate on some of those terms? This sub is so full of jargon, it's still hard for me to follow

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

SDL = Same Day Lay, ONS = One Night Stand.

[–]jackandjill22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

See some girls know this though.

[–]a_nus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For every moment, hour, day, or even week you don't meet/close, your chances drop exponentially.

Fucking this right here. I had a 10/10 Tinder match recently willing to come over, but I had to go on a trip. I knew right there and then that my chances of fucking her would drop tenfold when I got back from the trip. While I'm gone she'd probably have 10 more potential dates queued. Lo and behold, I come back, and I can definitely notice she's not that interested anymore.

[–]binarynightmare 111 points112 points  (32 children)

I think the biggest reason low smv guys struggle with understadning what you've pointed out is that they have never in their life had more than 1 girl interested in them simultaneously. Even the more average non virgins have never really had a selection of potential sexual partners to choose from.

To further your point, on any friday or saturday night, a girl who is being hit up by 6 different people is probably also receiving 6 different invites to hang out.

Finally we can't forget that in addition to heavy male competition, attractive females also receive heavy social interest from female friends who want to be seen with them or associated with their high smv.

In summary, flakey behavior isn't really that mysterious.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock[S] 58 points59 points  (3 children)

Weekend: Hang out with her friends? Or with a strange guy she just met? That's an obvious one.

Best to do first time hangouts mon-thurs for this very reason, she has less offers coming in competiting for her attention. However, I also find there are more schedule conflicts mon-thurs. Even given that, I think it's better to have a dialog going that includes a "sorry cant make it, I have work' during the week than a flake on the weekend. Harder to recover and maintain a convo from a flake than a schedule conflict.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The flip side to this is her agreeing to meet you on a Friday or Saturday. Increases your chances of flaking by 100% but also increases your chances of first night lay by 100%. It’s a risk reward scenario. I always made a point of asking the hotties to meet on Fri/ Sat and making plans with the sub HB7s on Sun- Thurs.

[–]BigGreekMike -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Until I read the second paragraph I thought the obvious assumption was the strange guy she’s never met

[–]rahl_r 12 points13 points  (23 children)

I think the biggest reason low smv guys struggle with understadning what you've pointed out is that they have never in their life had more than 1 girl interested in them simultaneously.

I've had... two, on a few occasions. Lasted, like, three days each, and I felt like a king of the world (go figure -- my standard number is ZERO).

But deep down, is this what we are after? Facebook "friends"? Legions of orbiters? Worshipers? The feeling does provide a short-term rush, but that's it. I'd trade 100 shitty relationships for a single solid one*, any day of the week.

*) Not necessarily a solid relationship with a woman, as there seem to be no such thing.

[–]binarynightmare 25 points26 points  (21 children)

The goal of having a plethora of sexual options at any given time is not to re-enact some Blue Mountain State or American Pie type fantasy live style. Although that could be considered an auxiliary benefit as well.

The real benefit is simple, a person with a variety of options will almost always make a better choice than than the person with one option.

Think about going to a car lot with your buddy. You're allowed to have any car you want in any color you want, with any add on package. On the other hand, your buddy, for whatever reason, is only allowed to have the first car he see's in the show room. Fast forward in 6 months, who is going to be happier with their vehicle?

This principal extends into all parts of life, one of the hardest things about being cash poor is that you can't choose an apartment you actually like or wait to start working until the perfect job comes along.

Being smv poor provides the same constraints. You have to settle for that not that great of a fit partner, because god know you couldn't afford anything better.

[–]Zeimma 9 points10 points  (13 children)

Your friend is that's who. There's tons and tons of research and evidence that shows when people are presented with a choice, the people that have fewer options to choose from like there choice more often by a staggering amount. You can watch experiment after experiment that shows this phenomenon.

Now I'm not saying that you are wrong in your premise just that in your example the end result is going to be opposite of what you think it would be.

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[–]1PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I tried to read your comment a couple times but I couldn't make any sense of it, wtf man.

[–]Zeimma 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Contrary to popular belief people don't respond positively to having lots of options to choose from. They much more often express remorse over picking the wrong option as well as having less satisfaction with their choice. Also see other response to my post for a video explanation.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cheers man, now I can. And yes very true although a person with no options might be happier with his/her only choice for a time. A person with more options will generally end up with a better one. Even though he/she could miss the optimal one.

[–]WhySoRuff 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Too many choices are bad for chicks and the uninformed, if you know what your doing it shouldn't be a problem. Oh and the research you mention is about the "paradox of choice" which has nothing to do with what u/binarynightmare is talking about. Completely different context. What's the worst that can happen from having to choose between 10 women? A bad date?

[–]Zeimma 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Yet it isn't, you even contradict your own statements. It's not about the worst that can happen, the paradox of choice predicts that you will more than likely not be happy with your choice no matter what you choose.

[–]WhySoRuff 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Every decision has a cost and a benefit. You are denying that the benefits of having many girls to choose from, far outweigh the possible unhappiness of making the wrong choice, which far outweigh having no choice at all.

[–]Zeimma 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I've denied nothing. Only stated psychological trends in people. I can't decide if someone else thinks any particular choice is worth it or not.

[–]WhySoRuff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you don't take something important into consideration, or you omit it from your decision making, you are ultimately denying its importance.

[–]ThrowFader 0 points1 point  (0 children)

stop bringing random philosophical bs that isn't relevant in context

The point still stands

[–]1PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also guys build up their options (to varying degrees) and girls lose them. The most miserable couples are those of a wall hitting woman who couldn't get any better and a guy who never self actualized and ended up committing to the hag. This is why it's so important to always improve a little every day in whatever areas you deem important. Doesn't matter what it is so long as you excel. Preferably something that makes you cool like a fly hobby, athletic lifestyle or adventurous life/job. You don't want to be the guy that earns decent amount of money but never reached the Zero Fucks Given zone and simply gets used as a wallet while looking like a sniveling rat.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also guys build up their options (to varying degrees) and girls lose them. The most miserable couples are those of a wall hitting woman who couldn't get any better and a guy who never self actualized and ended up committing to the hag. This is why it's so important to always improve a little every day in whatever areas you deem important. Doesn't matter what it is so long as you excel. Preferably something that makes you cool like a fly hobby, athletic lifestyle or adventurous life/job. You don't want to be the guy that earns decent amount of money but never reached the Zero Fucks Given zone and simply gets used as a wallet while looking like a sniveling rat.

[–]rahl_r 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Makes sense, in that transactional cost/benefit kind of a way

So I'm thinking why I'm such a cynical, jaded dick. In the workplace playground, I've had only shitty options in the past to begin with, as most have; so I've worked on improving my chances, and as a result of which, I've unlocked a lot more fulfilling positions. As I'm typing this, I'm fully aware of the effect, and I recognize a direct effort --> outcomes dynamic there.

However, in the women/dating scene, I'm dressing better, looking a bit better, assessing my boundaries... and then, I still get chubby 4s/5s thinking they can order me around. So if that one and only vehicle on the parking lot is a dangerous piece of junk, busted engine and crackling exhaust and all, I better take the pavement and walk. That, too, is a perspective.

[–]SovereignSoul76 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Nah. Progress. As you improve yourself, it's totally reasonable to expect 5s, then 6s, maybe a 7....

As OP was alluding to, when you have 2 or 3 girls that want YOU on Saturday night, that confidence carries over to getting more dates with hotter chicks. Flip the script, make them fight over you. If you've got two HB4s secretly fighting for your time, it's still better than an HB8.5 gf who's shut off the pussy and is treating you like a beta bitch.....Then ice'em both after 2 months and nail a 6.

[–]binarynightmare 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, it sounds like rahl_r could be progressing - but it's worth noting that in my experience the early steps of smv progress happen so SLOWLY. I made a field report about it the other day, but in short, 3 months into serious lifting, diet, fashion upgrades and I am just now receiving fleeting interest in anyone above a 5. But before, I was invisible to everyone.

[–]S3542U 0 points1 point  (1 child)

As u/Zeimma stated, here's a link to a video where the idea is explained: The Paradox of choice. https://youtu.be/VO6XEQIsCoM

Personally, I think it's best to have choices, but not too many; find a middle ground.

[–]Zeimma 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the video link reply to help explain what I meant.

[–]MortalSisyphus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would absolutely never trade in my happy marriage for the single lifestyle.

I've tried that lifestyle, and it's way too much work for way too little gain.

But hey to each their own...

[–]1PantsonFire1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The thing most guys do wrong is that they assume to quickly a girl is into them. They look for the slightest signs because either 1. they are projecting their own liking unto them or 2. They never experienced a girl truly obsessed about them so they misinterpret.

Flaking is pretty much a girl disqualifying you after simply being curious. When a girl is really into you she goes through phases, like a honeymoon phase etc and eventually going for the monkey swing. Point is that flaking should mean very little to you because the girl was never into you to begin with.

Guys simply take it personal because it's a soft rejection and that bums you out, which is understandable. It really takes allot of experience to not take it personal and figure out where you stand. Before that every flake feels like an attack to your SMV, implying you are lower than you thought. While usually that's not even the case, keep tabs on some girls that flaked on you and look at the boyfriends they end up with, their nothing special. You just lucked out, the stars weren't aligned, you said the bad thing at the wrong time, she wasn't looking for a particular guy yet, another guy had her attention, it ain't the time of the month yet etc etc.

Point is, don't take flakes serious. Guys invest to much in their recruitment pool.

[–]TheReformist94 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You're correct but,low smv is actually low to above average. Even if you are a 7/10 yourself you get scraps if you're lucky

[–]binarynightmare 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, gotta be in the top 20-15 percent.

[–]jackandjill22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is true. But it doesn't tell the whole story.

[–]FU-ThatsY 56 points57 points  (0 children)

If a woman flakes then she's just not into you. If she finds you attractive then she'll make the time. It's not about her phone settings.

[–]Vajesticles 17 points18 points  (0 children)

In our current digital age of smart phones and social media, even half decent girls are showered with constant validation and attention from that little portable computer that’s always at their side 24/7.

When it comes to the ratio of guys to girls there’s always a lot more thirsty guys out there than girls and girls are typically the ones constantly being placed on a pedestal and treated like gods. Of course since the dawn of modern civilization men have always been the chasers and women, the choosers.

It’s disgusting just how much the advent of social media has allowed every average and above female to easily have access to hordes of thirsty followers willing to compliment and shower women with validation at a whim. It’s turned most girls into narcissistic monsters. Women who would’ve had 10-15 orbiters in era about 30 years ago now have hundreds if not thousands of followers by comparison today. When the abundance is there you stop caring about courteousness and commitment and you stop treating people like people because you lose touch with reality and become so enamored with yourself.

As men, all we can do is strive to be the best version of our self we can be and create this abundance for ourselves. But damn it sure as hell is an uphill battle when it comes to reaching or even being given the time of day by most physically attractive women today. I’m fortunate I have a girlfriend right now that’s really into me, that typically responds to my messages within 30 mins or less and is constantly blowing my phone up with texts and Snaps. Times have definitely changed though.

[–]ELEPHANTIUSCOCKIUS 26 points27 points  (7 children)

This is actually very true about hot girls snapchats/texts. Every girls phone I've seen always has atleast a couple texts, snaps, tinder messages. And they will open the one message they actually care about and reply. Most young girls are on their phones a lot, but they only reply to the people who matter the most to them. Compared to guys who I find will overall look at their phone lea but reply to everything they can when they have the time.

[–]0signal0 29 points30 points  (6 children)

Dude, if I ever meet a girl who has one of those "old" phones that aren't smartphones, I think I'd marry her. Now that's a true unicorn.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 21 points22 points  (4 children)

There's always something to give. She's probably a hooker in that case.

You're looking for a NAWALT.

[–]WhySoRuff 1 points1 points [recovered]

Can confirm I've fucked many hookers and they always had those flip burner phones.

[–]ConsumingImpulse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had one. She was still a hoe.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

  • “But you was blowing up her phone last night But she ain’t have her ringer nor her ring on last night, oh”

Chris Brown - Loyal

[–]DailyManliness 19 points20 points  (1 child)

If a girl isn’t answering anything she’s a hoe. The girls I know that do this with the “silent mode” are all MAJOR sluts. Women should at least be responding to a few guys even if they’re just orbiters. Granted, a non-communicating woman may be hot and a fun sex partner but as far as an LTR goes run the other way.

[–]cjohnphilbrick 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Give me a break... If someone wants to respond to you, they will.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

How do you combat this obvious abundance skew? Realize that beta men chase women. Those men that are texting her are guaranteed to be mainly betas who validated her on social media or dating sites.

These women have so many options, yet they're so utterly deprived of genuine masculine authenticity. Remember that. If you live your life knowing you are the real deal and project that into the world, you have nothing to worry about because the abundance the average female 6 has is nothing compared to the abundance a genuine, integrated alpha male has.

The abundance young women have today only exists due to the abundance of pussified beta males with no self respect or control over themselves or their lives.

[–]red_matrix 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think girls just text when they're bored - and even if they have zero intention of ever meeting up they keep you on their back burner just in case they want something from you one day. Don't be one of these guys - chicks can sense desperation (Subconsciously) and will squeeze the life out of you if you let them. If a girl doesn't text you back DO NOT keep texting her, just move on.

[–]Fedor_Gavnyukov 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Always be looking for new prospects

this is important, not only with women, but with pretty much everything else in life. don't ever sit still and wait shit to come to you, go get it. someone flakes - fuck em. next. numbers game.

[–]kokoke 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thank god for abundance mentality.

[–]1TrenGod37 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Or just be high value and she won’t ignore your shit

[–]1PantsonFire1234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You should note that women play game subconsciously. Ignoring those other texts either implies disinterest or a Machiavellian objective, or both. This is why it's so important to not give a fuck. It makes you immune to a woman's mind games. Which she will constantly use to get you under her control. Because you being out of control makes her uncomfortable (dread). Eventually she will yield to your frame and surrender with sex in order to calm her discomfort.

So many guys care way to much about girls and thats why women own these men. It's why they lose interest once they had their fun.

[–]rathyAro 6 points7 points  (12 children)

I've gotten more flakes than ever recently and while this theory is very sound I'm not sure it explains what I'm experiencing. Aside from getting stood up multiple times by dating app matches I even got stood up by someone I met IRL and then she texted me to say hi and proceeded not to respond to a conversation she started. I assume there's something I should be doing that I'm not, but I hate playing texting games when IRL is so much easier.

[–]1theoctopuss 4 points5 points  (11 children)

She was testing you, and you failed. She flaked, then texted you to see if you were in orbit mode.

Be selective about when you respond. If she flakes, don't text her back for a few days even if she sends you something.

Also, when you do text a girl keep your responses short and vague. Wait at least 10 minutes to send a message back. Feign disinterest.

[–]rathyAro 0 points1 point  (10 children)

She was testing you, and you failed. She flaked, then texted you to see if you were in orbit mode.

She said: Hey I said: Whats up?

What was the correct response?

Also, when you do text a girl keep your responses short and vague. Wait at least 10 minutes to send a message back. Feign disinterest.

This is what I always do because of genuine disinterest. I've actually been wondering if I'm to blatantly apathetic.

[–]TissueBabies 1 point2 points  (9 children)

No response is the correct response. You can say you're genuinely disinterested if you want to but women know the difference. If you text back after a flake you come off incredibly needy. She flaked, she should have had to prove herself to you to keep your attention. You didn't even think about giving her shit and just blew right past that and stepped into her frame.

[–]rathyAro 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Well yeah, because I don't care if she thinks I'm needy or not needy. I don't care that she flaked, def not going to pretend to be mad. This is more of a curiosity since I'm not doing anything differently, but am seeing very different results. At first I was chocking it up to variance, but at this point it's happened enough that something has changed and I all I know that changed is I care less and I moved to a different city. Not saying I think your advice is wrong, I just doubt she has some special insight into my mind that I don't have.

[–]TissueBabies 1 point2 points  (7 children)

It's not about being mad it's about valuing your resources. As long as you have enough time, energy, and head space to fritter it away getting flaked on and sending unanswered texts then I guess there's no problem here. On the other hand, if you don't value your resources you shouldn't expect any one else to either.

[–]rathyAro 0 points1 point  (6 children)

You're right I don't value my time and I don't expect others to. I still find the last minute flaking weird but I guess I can't really know why unless the girls tell me. It's hard to believe that it's some elaborate shit test but maybe it is.

[–]ThrowFader 2 points3 points  (5 children)

DUDE! You need to fucking listen. It doesn't matter if you don't personally care if girls flake. It doesn't matter.

If a girl flakes, thats an instant soft next. They have to prove themselves even harder than a stranger would before you give them any attention.

It doesn't matter whats in your mind, you can hamster if you want, but you wont get results if the girl sees you as a pushover who lets her get away with disrespect.

LISTEN.

[–]rathyAro 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I'm not grinding for girls, but appreciate the advice. I'll consider if I ever get on that grind.

[–]TissueBabies 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I know that this is a late reply, but I consider that your are on the RP for a reason. You're demonstrating a lack of abundance. Try and at least fake abundance mentality. She flaked because of some unknown information. You're right it probably wasn't a shit test. (well the flake wasn't but there was a hidden test in the text she sent you) But think of how you would have asked her to hang out vs how you did and how you reacted to the flake versus how you would have if you could have hung out with any one of four different girls that night and gotten laid with at least 2 of them? Would you have treated those situations the same?

[–]AlphaGrad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because they are at their core fucking nuts, that's why.

[–]Syn3rgetic 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The fact that this needs to be dissected makes me lose confidence in the content of this sub even more.

[–]ThrowFader 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It needs to be because some people are unbelievably dumb and/or ignorant

[–]0ctaviusRex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nothing new in my opinion. I do not know a person whose phone isn't usually on silent mode. Except on weekends.. sometimes.. maybe.

This is not the reason why they flake because if they are hooked, they gonna wait for your message

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've left my phone on silent for everything for a while now and regularly leave notifications there.

It's great because you constantly get the dopamine buzz of seeing notifications only to remember that it's old, so it loses its attraction.

[–]aedvocate 1 point2 points  (1 child)

phone calls and face to face are synchronous communication - text, IM and email are asynchronous. the whole point of sending a text or email is that it doesn't require immediate reading, thought, or reply. If you want immediacy, you need to pick a medium that encourages it.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol, the only time I've found my communications class back in college put to use.

[–]SAPPHIREAURA 3 points4 points  (8 children)

I hate the game aspect of it though bro last 2 days been ignoring this girl she was so thirsty like why am I ignoring her the minute I reply she ghosts me now power is in her ends and I'm stressing... Mind you ex LTR but I wanna cut it for good but once ball is back in my court

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock[S] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

I noticed this very power dynamic in texting phenomenon last week. You can feel when the ball is in who's court based on who last replied and how they did it. For some reason, once you switch to the cyber realm, her priority changes to power games. I don't get it, but that's just how it is. Face time is key.

For many women, their first priority upon hearing from you is getting validation and fluffing their egos, not going out with you to have a good time or sex with you. Only if you keep that power dynamic in your direction can you squeeze a hang-out out of them. I would say 50% of the women I encounter are like this even if your initial encounter was on good terms.

[–]WhySoRuff 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I may have a solution for this but only after you've built rapport.

I never ask questions, I make comments that require her to respond. Sometimes they are observations, witticisms, or ridiculous statements. The conversation has no substance at all, it is just banter. Once she starts anticipating your replies, you take your sweet ass time while getting her juices flowing. It is high risk high reward.

[–]Illicit-Noir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good advice here, this is a good method to use. Don’t ask questions and keep it short. Always know when to pull the plug strategically too to keep the power balance on your end.

[–]TunedtoPerfection 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It switches to a power game for 1 of 2 reasons I have found.

If she is pissed at you it's so she has easy access to victim status if needed. My last Ex would always constantly try and bait some reactionary text from me. The one time she got me with that shit, you best believe EVERYONE we collectively knew saw it and heard her fabricated sob story about it. She of course didn't show them the 35 escalating texts before that.

The other is validation. See when women see 100 unread messages they see validation sources. To them that is 100 people who want their attention. Men see shit that needs to be done. Women intentionally never end conversations, they always leave room for a response when it's a text, Pm,DM whatever. That way they are off the hook for "ignoring you" as you are now the one that should be responding. If you don't respond she'll resort to the above tactic because big old meany heady didn't respond in 2 days. If you do respond she probably won't even read the message, she is just using the response to pad that number she instantly looks at everytime she opens her phone.

[–]DaddyFlying 1 points1 points [recovered]

Similar problem. Slowly getting back with ex LTR. I purposely ignore her text. She recently called me out about it via text. I respond back with a picture of my workload on my desk...and she sends a text saying “whatever”. I want her back, but not willing to stroke her need for attention. Looks like I’ll go silent again till she “double texts” and then give her a response that’s more soothing to the frustration she showed when I wasn’t replying.

[–]mishasam89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

whatever

dude she said w/e, dump that bitch

[–]ThrowFader 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dont give a response thats "more soothing".

Why would you reward such disrespect with comfort? Its a shit test not a comfort test. Don't take any shit, it smells.

If you are busy, then ignore distractions. If the bitch is a distraction, ignore her. Simple. No need to explain yourself either.

[–]TitsAndWhiskey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Been doing this for a while now. Highly recommend it.

[–]FirstDitchEffort13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You sound like a Beta fish; desperate and alone.

[–]winndixiedirty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That way if she texts another guy it’s oh he’s just a friend, see I didn’t even reply. They play the game. They’re so good they appear not to be playing, plausible deniability.

[–]yomo86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See texts as what they are. Meaningless bytes of data. If you two haven't had sex nothing counts.

[–]dickinlipss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's s girl I'm hanging with who responds 24 hours later on the dot. So much so it seems like she's trying hard not to seem to interested. I've been playing it really ducking slow, simple because I've been too busy to hang out more than once a week. But every time I invite either she says yes 90% of the time or an explanation in why she can't hang while suggesting another time.

Keep texts for logistics only. I throw in a throwback reference to an earlier conversation as an intro of several days have passed too.

[–]theNealCutter 0 points1 point  (1 child)

people have other things to do, y'know. life doesn't revolve around hookups. maybe she responded fast because she was just nice to you, or maybe she just doesn't have anything else to do. maybe she didn't respond because she's busy, or she just doesn't feel like it. you know, those days where you feel like you just don't want contact from anyone at all.

she's not necessarily a slut when she reacts in a way that makes you think she is.

[–]tropzumuch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This post post feels like basic rp-knowledge.

Put into sidebar!

[–]daprospecta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read the comment. It's not her ex it's her current boyfriend.

[–]newName543456 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do this kind of naturally.

I always find a way to get busy enough to miss message notifications (phone ringtone is pervasive enough to distract, so I don't miss anything urgent). And even when I notice notification, I just think to address it soon (which ends up being longer than I intended usually).

[–]Boatzanhoez 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I've seen the same thing. All hot girls get tons of texts and notifications. They ignore most of them. Best way is the old school way of hanging around girls. If you have a lot of friends that are girls and are always doing things with them, it will come naturally. You won't even need to try. Just be a happy, fun person and the rest will take care of itself.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The problem with this is you need to be in regular proximity of them. In college that is easy, after that it can be near impossible to be around the same attractive women on a regular basis. That's where the texting/social media comes in.

[–]Boatzanhoez 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Oh yeah. And it only gets harder the older you get. You'll never see anything like the pussy buffet you have in high school and college. The good thing is, older women know what they want and how to get it. They get really horny again around 30-36. And will literally fuck your brains out. But you want to try to find a good wife by then cuz the good ones get few and far between. Then all that's available when you're 40 is women with serious baggage.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only hot women you'll find 30+ are married with kids or a boyfriend. Cheating is the only option. No such thing as plenty of attractive fish in the 30+ sea.

[–]1Sir_Distic 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hanging around girls is orbiting. Girls find it very unattractive. It's needy and clingy. Hot girls do not want guys hanging around them unless they bring something to the table like status or some other asset.

Also who has time to just 'hang around with girl'? I've got too much going on for that. And too much self-worth.

[–]Boatzanhoez 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not orbiting when I do it. I call it, "getting it in". It's all how you carry yourself. Don't be an orbiter and you won't be. guess you didn't get my meaning. I meant that you're not going to fuck girls if you're not around them. For example: a girl calls you at 2am from some other guys house that she's fucking and asks you for a ride home. If you do that, that's an orbiter and she'll keep using you as long as you let her. Now, joining a volleyball or pool league at a bar is spending time with girls. If you have nice clothes, take care of yourself, and act like you're in a really important pool game or major deal, the girls will notice. They want to be around the guy that's laughing and smiling and enjoying life. It doesn't matter what you look like, (as long as you take care of yourself). The girls want excitement and to be around the guy who has all the friends, knows where the party is, has good buds for sale, and so on. That's what I meant. If you go out there and act like a dork, that's on you. Sitting around trying to talk to girls on the internet is being an orbiter. Going on Facebook is being an orbiter. Back in my day, 90's 2000's, that was the lamest thing you could do. Girls are attracted to happy, confident men. And, yes men with money. But if you got your shit together, you will have money. You will start to have a snowball effect. I've been friends with lots of girls that I didn't want to sleep with. Sometimes we ended up getting drunk and messed around.

[–]MrFinancialGoals 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not a woman but this is me. I leave them unread so I don't forget to respond. 😂😂. But then I take too long to respond so I leave them unread some more. Plus I hate hearing phones ring so I keep it on silent.

[–]IWantaPupper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always send a video after I get her number. Shows confidence and put you in front of the pack.

[–]lolablackbird 1 points1 points [recovered]

agreed. But as a fellow attractive girl who puts my phone on silent and has 100s I’d unread messages, if I ignore you 5 times in arrow : I am actively ignoring you. We notice all our texts. We just don’t answer all of them. To a guy I’m interested in fucking the most I wait is 24 hours ( if he’s taken a while ) . Mostly 2 hours / 1 hour if I’m REALLY INTO him. If we are talking in a convo that’s flowing and the responses are fast I can reply within 10 mins even, but if he takes an hour or something to respond then I’ll go silent for maybe 5 hours. Basically - unless we completely ignore your attempts, keep texting. But stop if we stop replying after 3-4 separate attempts to text us. 👍🏻 hope this helped #helpingthemen . And also if you want to fuck a girl..... and you are consistently talking to her, don’t u dare wait like more than 2 days ever to reply/ follow up. Even if ur really hot I’ll immediately a hot girl will feel baffled that you think you can reply that late to me so I’ll eliminate any investment in you completely

[–]TunedtoPerfection 7 points8 points  (1 child)

The simple fact that you and most women have all these retarded ass rules makes me laugh. It's really simple, answer the message when you have the time. 3 - 4 text is too much, Most the time I won't send even a second one unless I'm really into you.

See this is the problem women have with men. They make up all these stupid social rules in regards to dating. But every girl has a different version and they all change over time. So when a guy doesn't follow the script you have planned out in your head you get pissy about it and do this stupid shit.

Even if ur really hot, a hot girl will feel baffled that you think you can reply that late to me so I’ll eliminate any investment in you completely

Get over yourself. Baffled because a guy might have something more important in his life then to respond to you in some imaginary timeline you randomly made up or read in a cosmo article? Let me guess if said guy doesn't like at least 5 of your Instagram pictures that are less then 3 months old in at least 4 days of meeting your pet iguana does that mean hes cheating on you?

Better check your horoscope on that one.

[–]PoopyPartyPants 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Any guy who responded to this comment negatively does not understand TRP.

[–]NotACEOofAMajorBank 1 points1 points [recovered]

/Cringe

The arrogance is astounding. Who'd waste their time on a bitch like this? Kids wanting their hole - that's all. Good luck after the wall.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They're all turning like this. It's a virus.

The only way to combat this is to not feed the machine and sheer quantity of prospects.

[–]mishasam89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bitches like you are the reason why I'm happy all of those animals from middle east are being accepted to Canada. you deserve a good beating..

There is nothing cool about ignoring people. If you don't like them, then don't give them your number in the first place. Jesus, just how fucked up in the head are you?

Why has it become cool to Exploit and Demean people?! You, for all practical purposes, are a sadist.

[–]oddisay 1 points1 points [recovered]

What about when we get their numbers and then just never use it? I've done that to a few these past few weeks.

[–]301niko 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Don't take advice from women. Simple enough.

[–]oddisay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't know what I was thinking.

[–]Endorsed Contributorex_addict_bro -2 points-1 points  (8 children)

That’s creepy. An old man looking at girls phones! How could you. You should’ve asked me instead. I keep all the girls on silent and if I’m with one and some silent texts come in, I check them some time later.

Also it helps not to respond immediately.

Also it helps to focus.

Also when I’m busy, I’m busy.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock[S] 36 points37 points  (7 children)

Bro I'm 71 and still pullin the college hoes, still ballin', DGAF.

Say give it to me Grand Daddy.

[–]AlphaGrad 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now that's a skillset to be proud of!

[–]Illicit-Noir -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In general, your observation is correct but this isn’t always the case. I almost always get a text back. The key is to not always be texting women, let them text you. The guy always starting conversation & in her messages is on a one way trip to the friend zone at best. The guy she can’t get ahold of & is always blowing her off is the one hitting those walls. I agree with your stance of always keep 4-5 plates on hand though. 3/5 will get back with you if they are indeed plates.

[–]BlackMwoyo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hell if she texts you at 2 am saying she misses You! You meet up with her and fuck her in the back of your car. I did this 3 days ago thanks Red Pill!

[–]RPpieceofgarbage -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ok I see what you mean now.

[–]mrHappyPotatoe -1 points0 points  (3 children)

I thank for the insight but the advice is litterally a horse shit! You dont use women's tactics. Btw i dont have fucking time texting women.

[–]drf92 1 point2 points  (2 children)

But you have time to post here? I think you do have time but you are trying to look “hard”.

[–]mrHappyPotatoe 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ofc i have time. But u cant txt women. You are not her girlfriend. You dont use girl tactics. And yes i am trying to look hard. Texting with girls is only creating buffer. You can also shoot yourself to the leg. End result will be same.

And the time that takes to craft the best answers to her childlike mind is better spent elsewhere.

[–]drf92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hell, I can’t really argue with that lol sadly . But you DO have time you just choose not to and I understand why. Just saying you don’t have time is illogical. But again, I agree with the rest for sure man.